| nsnzero | morning all | 05:50 |
|---|---|---|
| chesedo | morning nsnzero | 07:06 |
| chesedo | and all others | 07:06 |
| Kilos | morning everyone | 07:26 |
| nsnzero | hi there Kilos | 07:29 |
| nsnzero | morning to chesedo as well | 07:32 |
| theblazehen | morning | 07:32 |
| nsnzero | hi theblazehen | 07:32 |
| theblazehen | https://twitter.com/devttyS0/status/854755656011743235 heh | 07:35 |
| theblazehen | https://github.com/shelljs/shelljs wait, what?! | 07:37 |
| Kilos | hi nsnzero theblazehen | 07:37 |
| Kilos | and chesedo too of course | 07:37 |
| theblazehen | Hi Kilos | 07:38 |
| Kilos | oh and inetpro | 07:38 |
| * theblazehen wonders how small I can compress a wikipedia db dump | 07:38 | |
| Kilos | im having worst connection hassles ever but otherwise all ok. busy fighting isp's | 07:39 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: That sucks :/ | 07:39 |
| theblazehen | https://github.com/zv/9Problems Nice | 07:42 |
| * theblazehen tried 9front out last night | 07:42 | |
| theblazehen | shell is a little lacking, but you can build a bash or something if you like | 07:42 |
| theblazehen | Can even nest rio inside rio | 07:42 |
| * nsnzero has not had enough coffee to understand all this | 07:43 | |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: Plan 9 - everything _really_ is a file | 07:44 |
| theblazehen | Want to nest your window manager? Open a window which launches a `rc` shell, run `rio` which then runs another window manager in a window | 07:45 |
| theblazehen | There isn't even a distinction between terminal and gui stuff | 07:45 |
| theblazehen | Eg, run `firefox` from a linux terminal - opens a new X window | 07:45 |
| theblazehen | run a graphical thing in plan 9 - replaces your terminal unless you kill the process then your terminal is back | 07:46 |
| theblazehen | Also, nice namespace concept | 07:46 |
| theblazehen | and great network integration, with concept of storage servers, cpu servers etc | 07:46 |
| theblazehen | Built in containerization for like 2 decades as well, compared to linux, which had it for around just 1 | 07:47 |
| theblazehen | Even came before solaris zones | 07:47 |
| theblazehen | Although I am only running a single node cluster | 07:49 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: https://homeplan9-1.theblazehen.com/scrot.png | 08:13 |
| theblazehen | You can see roughly the right half is a window containing another window manager | 08:14 |
| theblazehen | Neat thing is I can minimize any window | 08:15 |
| theblazehen | and the window manager on the right is just another top level window | 08:15 |
| theblazehen | So I can minimize a group of windows | 08:15 |
| nsnzero | something like i3 ? | 08:15 |
| theblazehen | and if I resize the top level window all the children windows resize as well | 08:15 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: Nah, no tiling by default | 08:15 |
| theblazehen | floating wm | 08:16 |
| theblazehen | But you can write scripts for tiling :) Just /dev/wctl/something or so | 08:16 |
| theblazehen | Bottom left is /dev/config | 08:17 |
| theblazehen | Hmm. Just got an idea... | 08:27 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:57 |
| nsnzero | hi inetpro | 08:58 |
| theblazehen | hi inetpro, wb nsnzero | 08:59 |
| nsnzero | thanks theblazehen | 09:00 |
| nsnzero | does squid proxy work with https ? or just plain http ? | 11:17 |
| theblazehen | Can do https, but you'll need to install a cert on all the clients | 11:20 |
| theblazehen | And not sure if it breaks cert pinning | 11:20 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: ^ | 11:20 |
| nsnzero | just cant get it functional theblazehen | 11:32 |
| nsnzero | i will have to read up on it | 11:32 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: Trying to do a transparent proxy, or normal one? | 11:32 |
| nsnzero | transparent | 11:32 |
| nsnzero | i have quite a few window machines on this network and i cant disable the auto-update so firewalled the router but i need a proxy to allow http/s access | 11:34 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, can't do that | 11:34 |
| theblazehen | afaik | 11:34 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: ? | 11:34 |
| theblazehen | Also, using a wpad.dat will at least help with the proxy config if you need to do itr | 11:34 |
| theblazehen | s/$// | 11:35 |
| nsnzero | the netgear router only allows 16 rules - thats another problem | 11:37 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: the dgn2200, or a different one? | 11:44 |
| nsnzero | same 1 | 11:45 |
| theblazehen | Just write an init script that calls iptables? | 11:46 |
| theblazehen | :D | 11:46 |
| nsnzero | Linux: Setup a transparent proxy with Squid in three easy steps | 11:46 |
| theblazehen | heh. http://www.bash.org/?464385 | 11:47 |
| theblazehen | But seriously, it won't be any easier in windows | 11:47 |
| nsnzero | doesnt affect my work if no one else can access the internet - i will put this on the that back burner | 11:49 |
| theblazehen | heh. Or just configure proxy auto configuration | 11:49 |
| nsnzero | i see the squid server daemon running and no error in the log - just doesnt connect | 12:04 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: Still trying transparent proxy? | 12:15 |
| nsnzero | hopefully if i can get it to work | 12:17 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: It won't | 12:22 |
| nsnzero | theblazehen: i can relax now - this proxy thing will have to wait | 12:26 |
| nsnzero | everybody , have a good afternoon | 12:28 |
| andrewlsd | nsnzero yip. by definition SSL cannot be transparently proxied. you have to man-in-the-middle it. which breaks SSL. (it's what appliances like BlueCoat do) | 13:24 |
| andrewlsd | so nzero wpad.dat is your best bet. | 13:24 |
| andrewlsd | which is automatic proxy settings config used by client | 13:25 |
| andrewlsd | as per theblazehen | 13:25 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: "nsnzero has left ("WeeChat 1.7")" | 13:25 |
| Kilos | eish upgrading opera-beta is gonna take over 5 hours for 51meg | 13:41 |
| Kilos | 2725 B/s | 13:42 |
| Kilos | now it says 10 hours. holy moly | 13:46 |
| tareq | hi all | 15:48 |
| nsnzero | evening all | 17:57 |
| nsnzero | why does qemu-kvm create a new user on my system ? | 17:57 |
| MaNI | why wouldn't it, it's fairly common practice? | 18:01 |
| MaNI | most linux programs that have a daemon run it as a limited permission user for security reasons (if there is a bug the rest of the system can't easily be compromised) | 18:03 |
| nsnzero | hi MaNI | 18:05 |
| nsnzero | just wanted to known why - saw this new user on my login screen got suspicious thats all | 18:05 |
| MaNI | strange that it shows it on your login screen - most WMs hide users like that by default | 18:06 |
| nsnzero | yip was there virt-something i deleted it though | 18:07 |
| nsnzero | it also created a new network interface - for security i assume | 18:11 |
| inetpro | talking about users on the login screen, how do I hide a user? | 18:23 |
| nsnzero | hi inetpro - ssdm login ? | 18:25 |
| theblazehen | inetpro: set shell to /usr/sbin/nologin? | 18:26 |
| theblazehen | My libvirt also shows on login screen, and it uses /bin/false instead of /usr/sbin/nologin for some reason | 18:26 |
| inetpro | Kubuntu 16.04, I guess that would be ssdm | 18:26 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: interesting, thanks | 18:27 |
| nsnzero | Set uid of the user (you want to hide )to any number which is less than 1000 | 18:29 |
| inetpro | theblazehen: I have serveral users with /bin/false but not appearing in the greeter screen | 18:30 |
| inetpro | looks like there's something about users using the AccountsService as well | 18:31 |
| theblazehen | Hmm, not sure | 18:33 |
| inetpro | oh and setting the user to /usr/sbin/nologin does not help... did it quickly and even after a reboot the user is still there | 18:42 |
| nsnzero | good night guys - rest well | 18:57 |
| inetpro | night nsnzero | 18:59 |
| nsnzero | sddm has a option in sddm.conf HideUsers= | 19:01 |
| nsnzero | night inetpro | 19:01 |
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