[05:50] morning all [07:06] morning nsnzero [07:06] and all others [07:26] morning everyone [07:29] hi there Kilos [07:32] morning to chesedo as well [07:32] morning [07:32] hi theblazehen [07:35] https://twitter.com/devttyS0/status/854755656011743235 heh [07:37] https://github.com/shelljs/shelljs wait, what?! [07:37] hi nsnzero theblazehen [07:37] and chesedo too of course [07:38] Hi Kilos [07:38] oh and inetpro [07:38] * theblazehen wonders how small I can compress a wikipedia db dump [07:39] im having worst connection hassles ever but otherwise all ok. busy fighting isp's [07:39] Kilos: That sucks :/ [07:42] https://github.com/zv/9Problems Nice [07:42] * theblazehen tried 9front out last night [07:42] shell is a little lacking, but you can build a bash or something if you like [07:42] Can even nest rio inside rio [07:43] * nsnzero has not had enough coffee to understand all this [07:44] nsnzero: Plan 9 - everything _really_ is a file [07:45] Want to nest your window manager? Open a window which launches a `rc` shell, run `rio` which then runs another window manager in a window [07:45] There isn't even a distinction between terminal and gui stuff [07:45] Eg, run `firefox` from a linux terminal - opens a new X window [07:46] run a graphical thing in plan 9 - replaces your terminal unless you kill the process then your terminal is back [07:46] Also, nice namespace concept [07:46] and great network integration, with concept of storage servers, cpu servers etc [07:47] Built in containerization for like 2 decades as well, compared to linux, which had it for around just 1 [07:47] Even came before solaris zones [07:49] Although I am only running a single node cluster [08:13] nsnzero: https://homeplan9-1.theblazehen.com/scrot.png [08:14] You can see roughly the right half is a window containing another window manager [08:15] Neat thing is I can minimize any window [08:15] and the window manager on the right is just another top level window [08:15] So I can minimize a group of windows [08:15] something like i3 ? [08:15] and if I resize the top level window all the children windows resize as well [08:15] nsnzero: Nah, no tiling by default [08:16] floating wm [08:16] But you can write scripts for tiling :) Just /dev/wctl/something or so [08:17] Bottom left is /dev/config [08:27] Hmm. Just got an idea... [08:57] good mornings [08:58] hi inetpro [08:59] hi inetpro, wb nsnzero [09:00] thanks theblazehen [11:17] does squid proxy work with https ? or just plain http ? [11:20] Can do https, but you'll need to install a cert on all the clients [11:20] And not sure if it breaks cert pinning [11:20] nsnzero: ^ [11:32] just cant get it functional theblazehen [11:32] i will have to read up on it [11:32] nsnzero: Trying to do a transparent proxy, or normal one? [11:32] transparent [11:34] i have quite a few window machines on this network and i cant disable the auto-update so firewalled the router but i need a proxy to allow http/s access [11:34] Yeah, can't do that [11:34] afaik [11:34] andrewlsd: ? [11:34] Also, using a wpad.dat will at least help with the proxy config if you need to do itr [11:35] s/$// [11:37] the netgear router only allows 16 rules - thats another problem [11:44] nsnzero: the dgn2200, or a different one? [11:45] same 1 [11:46] Just write an init script that calls iptables? [11:46] :D [11:46] Linux: Setup a transparent proxy with Squid in three easy steps [11:47] heh. http://www.bash.org/?464385 [11:47] But seriously, it won't be any easier in windows [11:49] doesnt affect my work if no one else can access the internet - i will put this on the that back burner [11:49] heh. Or just configure proxy auto configuration [12:04] i see the squid server daemon running and no error in the log - just doesnt connect [12:15] nsnzero: Still trying transparent proxy? [12:17] hopefully if i can get it to work [12:22] nsnzero: It won't [12:26] theblazehen: i can relax now - this proxy thing will have to wait [12:28] everybody , have a good afternoon [13:24] nsnzero yip. by definition SSL cannot be transparently proxied. you have to man-in-the-middle it. which breaks SSL. (it's what appliances like BlueCoat do) [13:24] so nzero wpad.dat is your best bet. [13:25] which is automatic proxy settings config used by client [13:25] as per theblazehen [13:25] andrewlsd: "nsnzero has left ("WeeChat 1.7")" [13:41] eish upgrading opera-beta is gonna take over 5 hours for 51meg [13:42] 2725 B/s [13:46] now it says 10 hours. holy moly [15:48] hi all [17:57] evening all [17:57] why does qemu-kvm create a new user on my system ? [18:01] why wouldn't it, it's fairly common practice? [18:03] most linux programs that have a daemon run it as a limited permission user for security reasons (if there is a bug the rest of the system can't easily be compromised) [18:05] hi MaNI [18:05] just wanted to known why - saw this new user on my login screen got suspicious thats all [18:06] strange that it shows it on your login screen - most WMs hide users like that by default [18:07] yip was there virt-something i deleted it though [18:11] it also created a new network interface - for security i assume [18:23] talking about users on the login screen, how do I hide a user? [18:25] hi inetpro - ssdm login ? [18:26] inetpro: set shell to /usr/sbin/nologin? [18:26] My libvirt also shows on login screen, and it uses /bin/false instead of /usr/sbin/nologin for some reason [18:26] Kubuntu 16.04, I guess that would be ssdm [18:27] theblazehen: interesting, thanks [18:29] Set uid of the user (you want to hide )to any number which is less than 1000 [18:30] theblazehen: I have serveral users with /bin/false but not appearing in the greeter screen [18:31] looks like there's something about users using the AccountsService as well [18:33] Hmm, not sure [18:42] oh and setting the user to /usr/sbin/nologin does not help... did it quickly and even after a reboot the user is still there [18:57] good night guys - rest well [18:59] night nsnzero [19:01] sddm has a option in sddm.conf HideUsers= [19:01] night inetpro