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pleb_Bashing-om: Got this result. https://pastebin.com/raw/ej9teE0q Also just found that my mesa-vdpau-drivers wasn't updating until I forced it. Relevant?00:01
bonsaitreeDelvien, How do i try to run an older kernel?00:05
latino31tubal your ubuntu is freezing too?00:13
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tuballatino31, Well, the Desktop is occasionally under the above circumstances. You too?00:14
latino31you have ubuntu 17.04..00:14
tubal16.1000:14
latino31mine has been locking since upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04.00:14
latino31oh okay i had that it was not locking with that00:15
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tubalHrm. Just a thought, do you run f.lux/f.lux indicator applet?00:15
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Bashing-ompleb_: Not in ignore :) just looking to confirm what I think before proceeding.00:17
pleb_Bashing-om: No worries00:21
Delvienbonsaitree during a boot, youll have the option00:22
Pencil2RL00:24
Pencil2join /PERL00:24
ChaiTRexPencil2: You probably want /join #perl00:26
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DelvienChaiTRex:  no hashtag req :P00:26
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latino31tubal no but i run redshhift why?00:28
latino31im been running redshift i think starting in version 16.04 and no issues on 16.04 or 16.10.00:29
johnfgI just installed unity: `sudo apt install unity`, on 17.04 server.  How do I start it?00:29
hitman1where to place bootloader when dual booting with windows?00:29
johnfgOk, unity came up after reboot, but my password isn't accepted.  Was able to login from tty1, but why won't the unity login accept my password?00:33
bonsaitreeIt turns out that there is a recent system update that is messing with the Wi-Fi link speed. I've tried many things and all of them lead to that conclusion.00:43
johnfgOk, unity came up after reboot, but my password isn't accepted.  Was able to login from tty1, but why won't the unity login accept my password?00:43
ChaiTRexjohnfg: Have you selected the correct user? Does it actually say that the password is bad or does it just ask again?00:45
naskelii'm trying to install ubuntu14.04 LTS on libvirt but I can't get past the screen for ubuntu archive mirror00:46
naskeliit's telling me the official archive mirrors are unreachable. I'm guessing it has to with my virtual machines networking00:46
inflexAnyone else finding that every ~24hrs, khugepaged goes completely nuts, sucks up 100% of CPU and X locks hard (including keyboard/mouse)?  Machine won't even reboot properly via external SSH in with shutdown -r 0?00:46
naskeliI was under the impression though that ubuntu could be installed offline without a network connection. What gives?00:46
inflexWas a perfectly good machine under 16.10, but 17.04 has delivered this to me00:46
naccinflex: not seeing that with 17.0400:46
gogetainflex, that sounds like a kernel panic00:46
inflexgogeta, would have thought a kern panic wouldn't permit me to ssh in from another system00:47
Bashing-ompleb_: Mt vulkan skills are not up to this task . I do not know what to advise - regrets .00:47
naskelihmm, in fact when I exit out to the ubuntu installer main menu I don't get as many options as I would for a normal ubuntu install00:48
pleb_Bashing-om: Ah well, but thanks still. I might try another round of updating, upgrading, and rebooting before I head out, just in case.00:49
inflexwhen I checked the process list, that's when I saw khugepaged at the top.  12GB system, running fluxbox, thunderbird, firefox, xchat and a few xterms00:49
gogetainflex, whe it does it again try sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches00:49
gogetainflex, should make it happy00:49
gogetainflex, it is a bug00:49
johnfgIt says it's incorrect, both for myself, and guest.00:50
inflexthanks gogeta00:50
johnfgI changed the passwd in tty1, to see if that would make a difference.  It didn't.00:50
gogetainflex, its a workaound00:50
Bashing-ompleb_: I will be interested in how you progress .00:50
inflexgogeta, np, more than used to those in life.00:51
ChaiTRexjohnfg: Is caps lock on? If not, I'm not sure what's next.00:51
inflexgogeta, any idea what's invoking it every ~24hrs?00:51
johnfgActually, Failed to start session.00:51
Jonathan_ehello everyone, could someone basically explain to me why certain gnu programs don't see "all" my HD, but other gnu programs do?00:51
gogetainflex, yea something to do with having alot of cpu cores or something00:51
ChaiTRexjohnfg: Oh, I think it'll only try to start a session once the correct password is entered.00:51
inflexgogeta, okay, interesting, considering this is just an Intel Pentium G3420, but I'll try the workaround when it happens tomorrow.00:52
ChaiTRexjohnfg: Here's a megathread of possible solutions: https://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop00:52
johnfgChaiTRex: Thanks, I'll look at it...00:53
gogetainflex, a matter of prosses getting stuck00:55
gogetainflex, seems to be stuck prosses or it trying to defrage and using tons of memery00:57
aye163_hello, Ubuntians and other linux-oriendted ....00:59
aye163_has anybody upgraded already to 17.04 ubuntu?01:00
seentoomuchi'm about to upgrade now01:01
anonymous_hi01:01
seentoomuchhey01:01
anonymous_how are you_01:01
aye163_thanks, wanted to know about first impression and any stability issues of ubuntu 17.04?01:01
aye163_hello01:01
seentoomuchpretty hyped for 17.04, i'll probably try it on a vm first01:02
anonymous_do you speak spanish01:02
aye163_no comprande,sorry01:02
seentoomuchno russian and english01:02
anonymous_mmm ok01:02
dbarrosany recommendations of a player with HUGE album art display?01:02
aye163_type english, we will understand01:03
bazhangdbarros, amarok01:03
dbarrosbazhang, not qt-app.01:03
bazhangdbarros, it runs fine with gtk01:03
aye163_seentoomuch, well you know, as always upgrade is not a fresh install.01:03
seentoomuchtrue01:03
anonymous_they belong to anonymous_01:04
bazhanganonymous_, did you have an ubuntu support issue01:04
aye163_last time, 16.04 to 16.10 resulted into a loss of my wireless network connectivity, thus had to reinstall everything.01:04
dbarrosin the past RHYTHMBOX had the possibility of resizing the album art on the left lower corner....01:05
dbarrosnow is that possible to regain that feature?01:05
bazhangdbarros, what have you tried01:05
aye163_have anybody already tested linux drivers for newest NVIDIA GTX10th series?01:07
anonymous_why can not i connect to debian server_01:07
bazhanganonymous_, /j #debian01:07
aye163_anonymous, try alternatives, how are trying to connect to "debian"01:08
gogetaaye163_, go test them01:08
aye163_gogeta, well was thinking of getting a new notebook with those, but not sure yet01:09
gogetaaye163_, as far as i know they work but being linux has like no dx12 games etc there kinda undedded01:10
aye163_any good company selling laptops optimized for linux?01:10
gogetaall laptops work under linux01:11
chris32aye163_, i don't think there's such a thing as 'optimized for linux'01:11
aye163_currently using a system 76, any other experiences?01:11
gogetathey days of lacking drivers are kinda behind us01:11
anonymous_ayel in united states you can buy a apple laptop whit linux *ubuntu,kernel01:12
gogetasystem76 are just other laptops rebranded and marked up01:12
gogetasay a rog msi or dell same thing01:12
aye163_at least those system 76, come with pretested hardware ....01:12
anonymous_and in the deep web?01:12
gogetapretested my others lol01:13
gogetaby01:13
bazhanganonymous_, how is the deep web related to ubuntu support01:13
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aye163_gogeta, they wrote a layer of drivers needed, just to simplify, and avoid any surprises ...01:14
gogetaaye163_, most people tent to have issue say they but a gtx1080 launch day and think it will work on linux lol01:14
gogetaaye163_, you mean nivida did01:15
aye163_yes, including the NVIDIA01:15
gogetaaye163_, dont drink there coolaid trust me01:15
gogetaaye163_, my rog has no problems in linux01:16
aye163_OK, good to know, gogeta.01:16
gogetaaye163_, it tend to be amd and suck and fail at linux hard01:17
gogetaaye163_, like there is still no hdmi audio on the rx489 on linux01:17
gogetarx48001:17
aye163_yes, it is less and less an issue now01:17
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gogetaaye163_, becouse it was wrote so bad it got rejected01:17
aye163_but those AMDs are still a pain01:18
gogetaamd is better at open sourcing there stuff01:18
gogetanivida more mine mine mine attude01:19
aye163_mostly for the new generation cards, right?01:19
gogetaall of them01:19
aye163_custodian-carl, joined the wrong room, he-he-he01:19
gogetaaye163_, why most amd cards dont even need the non free driver01:20
gogetaaye163_, the oss driver these days is just as good01:21
aye163_Yes, this is true for AMD and open sourse, now the drivers are much better01:21
gogetaaye163_, other then on ubuntu unless myou add the ppa01:21
gogetaaye163_, 16.04 lts mesa stack is relly dated01:21
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aye163_well, good to experience ubuntu doing better and better ...01:23
aye163_have three laptops of different epochs running various distros, from pentium III upto 6700K this year.01:24
aye163_have not chated for years, and surprised to find out that this is still being used by many01:25
bazhangaye163_, gogeta please take the chatter elsewhere01:26
TOR_hey guize, i have one question01:26
TOR_is there anyway to make the Ubuntu dual boot only from BIOS?01:26
aye163_OK, will get shut01:26
bazhangTOR_, go ahead and ask the channel01:26
TOR_like, I use a notebook here that is not mine and I dont really like windows, and the original user of this notebook dont like Ubuntu01:27
TOR_I cant use a VM because the computer is pretty limited01:27
gogetaTOR_, turn on efi legicy mode reinstall windows and ubuntu01:27
aye163_TOR, use a USB drive and work within this drive.01:27
TOR_@gogeta both?01:28
gogetaTOR_, if you turn off efi windows whont run01:28
TOR_@aye163_ I do not have a good USB with me sadly01:28
TOR_@gogeta ill consider that, thanks01:28
gogetaTOR_, both os have to be in bios mode or efi mode01:29
chris32when does Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS support end?01:29
TOR_@gogeta I'm kinda new on this, I don't really understand BIOS properties and stuff, mind explaining what EFI mode is?01:30
gogetachris32, !lts01:30
chris32!lts01:30
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1)01:30
aye163_chris32 this info should be on ubuntu.com01:30
chris32aye163_, i can't find it01:30
chris32i can see 5 years but not when it was released01:31
gogeta5 years01:31
bazhangchris32, five years01:31
aye163_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases01:32
bazhangchris32, 2016-five years hence01:32
chris32thanks01:32
gogetait will be another year before the next lts is even out01:32
gogetaTOR_, efi replaced bios on nearly every pc made in the last 5 years01:33
aye163_I think, made a mistake once upgraded to 16.10, should have staid with 16.0401:33
aye163_saint petersburg?01:34
gogetaTOR_, to has more security and features like the ability to your liance key of your os eg windows01:34
OERIASI know this maybe a hexchat issue, but i feel as though that there is a bug that causes hexchat to shut off sound in Ubuntu01:35
OERIASI play a video with the sound playing01:35
gogetasotre01:35
agcom01:35
OERIASand hexchat cuts off the sound01:35
OERIASand it doesn't return01:35
aye163_good less crap going through01:35
OERIASAnyone experience this?01:36
selsperwhat does this mean? https://pastebin.com/2aAHnkf601:37
gogetaselsper, it means they need to update there encryption sha1 has been hacked01:39
OERIAScan someone help me to get an idea to what is going on?01:39
gogetaOERIAS, hexchat should have nothing to do with losing sound01:40
OERIASgogeta, the odd thing is that the sound goes off when hexchat is launched01:40
gogetaOERIAS, you shure its off01:41
OERIASgogeta, no sound is playing when it plays01:41
OERIASit's as if it is muted01:41
chris32what was ubuntu running before systemd?01:42
aye163_my sound via youtube for example is fine...01:42
OERIASchris32, me?01:42
gogetachris32, rc.d01:43
bazhangupstart chris3201:43
chris32gogeta, what's the difference?  ELI501:43
bazhang#hexchat for that OERIAS01:43
Bashing-omchris32: Just prior to systemd was upstart - there have been several initiate systems even before upstart .01:43
gogetayea upstart to01:43
gogetathey whent threw so many01:43
chris32ok01:44
OERIASI am trying to settle if this is a hexchat issue or an issue that pertains to Ubuntu01:44
OERIASas of today01:44
gogetawell try a sound and other opp01:44
gogetaiff it cuts out01:44
bazhangOERIAS, ask in #hexchat , file a bug against it in ubuntu01:44
aye163_OERIAS this might be just your local prob.01:44
gogetaapp01:45
fpghost84Hi, I'd like to factory reset an android phone from a ubuntu laptop. I think I can do it maybe via adt command shell? Is there a way I can install this without the full 500mb sdk?01:46
aye163_sounds works well with various applications on my system.01:46
OERIASi am playing .ogg, mp3 and a youtube video and no sound01:46
gogetafpghost84, you dont need a pc to reset a phone01:46
OERIASi tried playing the test sound on the System Settings and it doesn't play01:46
fpghost84gogeta: the screen is broke01:46
fpghost84I can't do the normal reset, and I'm selling it for parts (hence want to wipe my data)01:47
gogetafginther, i would be fixing the screen first01:47
fpghost84gogeta: impossible in my current situation given that I'm halfway around the world in various for the next year and the phone screen only ships from china in 2months01:47
fpghost84....anyway, I have my reasons. I would just like to know how to install adt without the full 500mb sdk (if possible)....or other ways to wipe it via laptop01:48
chris32is there an ubuntu netinst .ISO? I'm sorry but im having a hard time navigating through the site01:48
aye163_fpg, can you connect it an external monitor?01:48
hanasakihttps://pastebin.com/R5j3FCzJ     what would cause the 2nd IP that is in this paste?01:48
atyzHey guys. I'm trying to instlal 17.04 and the installer seems to be bugging out on me with a screen thats completely unreadable (http://imgur.com/a/tfEFi). I have tried older versions, I have also tried using server editions. Anybody have any ideas?01:48
bazhang!mini | chris3201:48
ubottuchris32: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD01:48
chris32thanks once again baz01:49
fpghost84aye163_: the factory reset on the phone itself requires a pattern unlock and my monitor isn't touch....01:49
gogetafginther, http://www.greenbot.com/article/3155115/android/google-encourages-android-tinkerers-with-standalone-downloads-of-adb-fastboot.html01:49
rud0lfwhat is the name of main mono package?01:50
rud0lfmono as this .NET stuff01:50
bazhangrud0lf, apt-cache search mono01:50
aye163_got to go, evening everyone01:50
rud0lfah, thanks01:50
gogetafpghost84, wrong name but there you go stand alone adb linux01:50
fpghost84gogeta: yes haha, was just about to say, not sure how I became fginther, but thanks!01:51
gogetafpghost84, its called platform tools now01:51
fpghost84thanks01:51
chris32bazhang, will that ISO also let me choose between upstart, systemd and other inits?01:51
bazhangchris32, the most recent is systemd, though some others may still take the rc.d01:52
gogetachris32, most have gone to systemd of course if systemd keeps up it wll have its own broswer and window manager01:53
chris32bazhang, oh ok. i now see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart#Adoption01:53
bazhanggogeta, how is that helpful01:53
chris32systemd must be very good if they so many switch to it01:54
chris32so i might stick to it01:54
gogetachris32, thats a can of worms for another chat01:55
chris32ok01:55
OERIASThis is the error message i get when playing a video: http://imgur.com/a/PSh8i01:59
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gogetaOERIAS, looks like a codec issue try vlc02:06
OERIASokay give me a fives minutes to see02:08
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tubalDoes anyone know how to register an application so that it is visible to 'Open with...' dialogs?02:22
tubalI'm thinking of gvim here. vim appears in the menus, but it runs as vim in a new terminal window.02:23
tubalAlright... created a desktop file in /usr/share/applications... now what?02:31
OERIASgogeta told me to try VLC and it doesn't seem to work02:36
OERIASit still cuts off the sound02:36
cyranoWhy does my laptop beep five times every time I boot it?02:49
Bashing-omcyrano: Will have to consult your bios manual for your main board to see what the 5 beeps mean . " beep code"03:00
fossvbnhow many DE ubuntu supports03:07
fossvbnapart from unity03:07
oerheks!flavor03:08
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours03:08
oerheks9 full iso's, but there are more DE's03:08
ElPezTest03:10
ElPezI finally made this work (weechat)03:10
ElPezAnyone trying on suckless ii?03:10
effectnethi i dunno how to get freefilesync to install on 16.1003:27
Bashing-om!info freefilesync yakkety03:29
ubottuPackage freefilesync does not exist in yakkety03:29
Bashing-omeffectnet: ^^ tell us more .03:29
effectnetok i downloaded from this page, the 16.10 version... https://www.freefilesync.org/archive.php03:29
effectnet./FreeFileSync: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:30
kostkon!find libpng12.so.003:31
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 108 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libpng12.so.0&searchon=names&suite=zesty&section=all03:32
effectnetthe last comment on this page... does that mean i have to do smething else? https://www.freefilesync.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=387603:32
effectnetk03:32
krytarik!find libpng12.so.003:32
ubottuPackage/file libpng12.so.0 does not exist in zesty03:32
effectnetk that sounds bad03:33
effectnetit's so handy to synchronize two directories03:33
Bashing-omkrytarik: effectnet But does exist in xenial .. humm the game is afoot !03:34
krytarik!find libpng12.so.0 xenial03:34
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 18 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libpng12.so.0&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all03:34
krytarik!find libpng12.so.0 xenial03:34
ubottuFile libpng12.so.0 found in libpng12-003:34
krytarikAh, yes.03:34
effectnetit's national grilled cheese day03:35
kostkoneffectnet, if you are brave enough just install the libpng12 package from xenial aka 16.0403:35
effectnethmmm03:36
effectnetok thanks03:36
Bashing-omeffectnet: Not a proponent but ... if ya must - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libpng12.so.0&mode=filename&suite=xenial&arch=any .03:37
effectnetnah, thank you though.03:38
Bashing-omeffectnet: Maybe have a talk with the maintainer of freefilesync. see if he fell asleep and missed a call .03:39
effectnethehe03:40
effectnethe said........ Ubuntu 16.04 ships with libpng12 while 16.10 comes with libpng16. I'll see to offer two FFS builds for the next release.03:41
effectnetin october03:41
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effectnetthe lib? k lemme see03:52
effectnetlol i dunno what to do03:54
kostkoneffectnet, on 64bit bit right? http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libpng12-0/download03:54
effectnetkostkon ++ ok that worked!  hehe thank you03:56
kostkoneffectnet, np03:56
AzeroIs it normal for new people to be like, "Wow! This is a lot different from what I was expecting."03:57
Bashing-omAzero: Well, some .. are you experiencing the orange glow ?04:05
AzeroNot sure if I am or not. First time user here so I dunno what exactly you mean.04:06
Bashing-omAzero: Well the orange glow is the ubuntu logo rubbing off on you . How long ya been 'buntu'n ?04:08
AzeroWell based off the time, I'd say, about thirty minutes. I'd tag you in my responses but I've not quite figured out this application either.04:09
effectnetpfft i cant get my screen changer 'variety' to change the screen now04:09
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Azeroubottu, Bashing-om Thanks for that bit of info.04:12
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AzeroI'm laughing at myself now. Thanks for the tip though Bashing-om04:12
sfdebughi, i'm trying to charge my iphone 4s via usb on my laptop with ubuntu 14.04 but it doesnt works... does anyone have any idea?04:13
Bashing-omAzero: np .. we are here to help .04:13
effectnethi how come my 'variety' program wont change the desktop picture?04:13
effectnetit was just working04:16
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effectneti tried launching it 'sudo variety' that didn't work either.  there's a pic on the desktop and nothing changes it now.04:20
effectneti did 'killall variety' then relaunched, didnt' work04:20
effectnetso i guess i'll just have to reboot for a screensaver04:20
effectnetwell that worked lol04:24
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tuballatino31, How was the upgrade process, apart from the new bug with the desktop?04:33
latino31other than that it was pretty seamless04:33
latino31easy04:33
latino31i guess you need to upgrade soon because 16.10 wont be support for much longer04:33
latino31i assume04:33
tubalDid you use the  GUI program or  apt-get, latino31 ?04:34
latino31GUI04:34
tubalAh yeah. I'm glad it went smoothly.04:34
grvhi04:35
grvpls help me with htppd04:35
grvanyone04:35
grv?04:35
grvhelo04:36
krytarikgrv: Like I said, ask in #httpd.04:37
maik_hi04:41
sagaservergood day04:42
kali_Hola a todos04:44
sagaserverhola04:44
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FreddyPanybody know why installing gnome-network-admin on Ubuntu 17.04 does not give all of the features described in its help file.  It is as if the help documentation is describing a different app.04:58
Ben64FreddyP: can you be more specific05:00
tubalI think there's a Super- key-chord to open a little dialog to type a command in. But I can't find it. Anyone know?05:06
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marvin2hi. is it possible to change the behavior of alt-tab to get it to show all windows instead of grouping all same program windows together?05:15
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archer121hi, Is it possible to use VNC to connect to a already logged in guest user account on ubuntu?05:25
archer121It fails with this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24418390/05:27
EriC^^tubal: alt+f205:31
tubalEriC^^, Thanks!05:31
EriC^^tubal: no problem05:32
Night_Welcome to Ubuntu 17.04 (GNU/Linux 4.8.0-46-generic x86_64)05:34
Night_* Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com05:34
Night_* Management:     https://landscape.canonical.com05:34
Night_* Support:        https://ubuntu.com/advantage05:34
Night_Ubuntu 12.04 LTS end-of-life is April 25, 2017 -- Upgrade your Precise systems!05:34
Night_$ sudo do-release-upgrade -m server05:34
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ner0xHello all. Using Ubuntu Gnome 17.04 and I'm having issues with a printer being auto-installed regardless of how many times I delete it. Having trouble finding the docs or configuration options for cups/printers/printer-settings online. Fairly familiar with Ubuntu with Unity UI but gnome is a bit different. Any help would be greatly appreciated.06:14
YankDownUnderner0x: Have you tried unplugging the printer and deleting it...and then restarting the printer daemons and cups?06:17
ner0xYankDownUnder: unplug, remove, sudo service cups restart, plug-in?06:22
YankDownUnderner0x: Yeah - or, if anything else, reboot the machine (hate doing that)...but yeah...like doing it COLD...so that there is no "automagically seen" going on, know what I mean?06:23
ner0xYankDownUnder: Yeah. Where can I find the "share this printer on the network" feature? Again, google seems to be useless. Either that or I forgot htgtfmyself.06:24
ducassener0x: also see the release notes, the section on driverless printing. that could be the reason.06:24
YankDownUnderDriverless cars, driverless printing...whoa...what's the world coming to...06:26
mattpalermoYankDownUnder: Lol06:33
zygaYankDownUnder: driverless countries apparently ;-)06:34
YankDownUnderner0x: I'd assume "gnome-control-center" -> and then printers...(your Gnome might be different than my Gnome)06:35
YankDownUnderner0x: My personal preference is to share printers via the cups admin (web)...as that way, nothing gets in the way - i.e., DE/WM's and the likes...but that's me...I don't necessarily like having the desktop GUI controlling what can be controlled at the base level...06:38
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ner0xYankDownUnder: I've figured out the basics of the web interface. Set my laserjet to the correct drivers at least. The Canon MX920 is connected via USB, and is added. The wireless version of the MX920 is being detected and added as well, making me have duplicates. :-/06:44
YankDownUnderner0x: Errrr...far out...06:45
YankDownUnderner0x: Would it currently not suffice to rename the one that you WANT to whatever - and then rename the wireless something else - so that regardless of the dupes, you can KNOW which is which? At least until you can figger out what's going on with the "driverless" system...06:49
ner0xYankDownUnder: I just turned off the LAN capabilities of it. lol06:49
YankDownUnderner0x: Well, there ya go...06:51
ner0xYankDownUnder: I live by the KISS method.06:51
ner0xYankDownUnder: Keep It Simple Stupid. :)06:52
Damohello06:55
Damoi need help06:55
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ducasse!ask | Damo06:56
ubottuDamo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:56
FreddyPDamo: so do I , i see my therapist later06:56
DamoI recently download ubuntu and i was happy with it but i have one massive issue which im not kidding you, ive spent like 4 hours trying to solve and so many methods but i still cant solve it. When i move my mouse. My mouse moves back to a position. I move it again and my cursor moves back to the same exact position. No matter where i move my mouse, jumps back to the same position06:57
ducasseDamo: have you tried with another mouse?06:58
Damoyes. i tried it with another mouse and i got the same result. i also moved the cursor into another position and quickly took out my mous and it still moved back06:59
ducasseDamo: did it work in the installer?07:00
Damoyes07:00
roobertt587hello i use ubuntu software center to install "krita" and it asks for a registration for ubuntu one. is this required?07:00
Damobut when im in the actual system like i am now, no matter what im in, whether it terminal or not, the mouse still goes back to the same spot07:01
ducasseDamo: can you try connecting it to a different port?07:03
Damoalready done so, still same07:03
Damoi believe it is too do with the operating system, im on ubuntu 17.0407:04
YankDownUnderThird time I've heard of "mouse issues" after installing 17.04...interesting...07:04
FreddyPducasse: boot from a live CD  does your mouse work ?07:07
FreddyPif so then a clean reinstall should fix the issue07:08
Damookay so try that?07:08
Damobecause ill have to leave this chat to do so07:08
Damoas im currently on this channel with my ubuntu system07:09
krypto_for some reason, from time to time when I click on Files or Trash, it just spins and doesn't open up the apps. A restart or a logout obviously fixes it. Any ideas? Gif here: http://i.imgur.com/PkbfsSX.gif07:09
ducasseDamo: you've already done that if it worked in the installer07:09
Damoyeah it worked in the installer07:09
YankDownUnderDamo: Just as a thought - have you done a cold boot on the 17.04 machine - WITHOUT the mouse plugged in - and then plugged it in after it booted up and logged in? Just wondering...07:10
DamoNope, Yank i have not done that as of yet07:10
Damobut as i said before yank, i tried a different mouse and it still did not work07:11
Damothe cursor just kept jumping back to its spot (mid a bit to the right)07:11
ducasseDamo: paste the output of 'lsmod | grep hid' on paste.ubuntu.com and post the url here07:16
balleynemy gdm just suddenly stopped working on a living room computer that's always on, went you use it and it was down and couldn't restart. I rebooted the whole machine, and now keep getting a "could not detected graphics setting" message07:31
balleynelast I remember it was working either 12-24h ago, would have been the last time it was used... no idea what changed07:31
skcrestart mysql service07:35
rafikiwubbalubbadubdub07:49
AppAraathello, when I try to ssh from 14.04 to a remote machine it works, but on 16.04 it gives me an error on keytypes: line 18: Bad key types 'ssh-ed25519-cert-v01@openssh.com,ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com,ssh-rsa-cert-v00@openssh.com,ssh-ed25519,ssh-rsa'.07:52
AppAraatssh version on 14.04 is "OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.8, OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014" while 16.04 is "OpenSSH_7.2p2 Ubuntu-4ubuntu2.1, OpenSSL 1.0.2g 1 Mar 2016" so shouldn't 16.04 have those keytypes?07:52
FreddyPAppAraat: intiate the connection with  ssh -v    it is more verbose and may give you a better clue07:53
AppAraatFreddyP: right but it just says the same, it can't find the keytypes. My .ssh/config is this: https://bpaste.net/show/c374d4b67e0b07:55
AppAraatthat's pretty strange considering newer versions should AFAIK support more keytypes, especially ed2551907:55
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DamoHello, ducasse are you still here?08:03
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DamoCan someone please help me?08:03
janko_What's the problem?08:04
FreddyPDam: still got mouse issues ?08:05
FreddyPDamo:?08:05
DamoYes FreddyP08:06
Damowhat do i do? ive got the same issue08:06
AppAraatFreddyP: re: ssh - it seems that (one of?) the HostKeyAlgorithms has been deprecated. Removing ssh-rsa-cert-v00@openssh.com entry makes it work.08:07
FreddyPok08:08
FreddyPmy next suggestion was to create new keys08:08
Damocreate new keys?08:09
AppAraatfractal: I don't think that would work since I still specified the HostKeyAlgorithms in my config, but still thanks :)08:10
AppAraaterr, FreddyP08:10
Damoim so confused right now08:10
AppAraatDamo: he was talking to me.08:10
DamoFreddy what do you want me to do? what does create new keys mean?08:10
AppAraatdisregard anything to do with keys :p08:10
Damoim going to give up on ubuntu soon, no one is helping and ive been stuck in this situation for about 6 hours now08:16
janko_Maybe try debian?08:16
FreddyPDano: did booting from the live cd work with your mouse08:16
DamoFreddy i have not tried. would you like me to try? and what do you mean by boot from live cd? as in the try ubuntu option? on the usb?08:17
janko_yes08:17
xchenhello everyone08:24
DamoHello08:25
janko_Hello08:26
DamoI tryed the live cd thing and my cursor still did the same move and then jump back to the spot08:26
Damoim dual booting atm and both the partition and the live cd aint letting my cursor move well. on both, i move the cursor then it jumps back to the same spot every time08:27
FreddyPDamo: that would suggest that you have faulty hardware or Ubuntu does not work with your mouse.08:29
DamoFreddy my mouse should be fine... i have an razer deathadder 2013 and my hardware is old but ive seen others with the same hardware with ubuntu08:30
YankDownUnderDamo: Same problem still, eh? Have you dug through any of the wiki/forums yet?08:31
DamoYank i have tried so many methods, im about to rip out my hair08:31
Damoi can move my mouse for a bit then it just jumps back to a spot08:32
YankDownUnderDamo: What about installing "mouse tweak" - you're running what? 17.04?08:32
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Damoyes, yank what do i type in terminal for mouse tweak08:33
YankDownUnderDamo: What "version" and desktop are ya running, bro?08:34
YankDownUnderDamo: Just found something to test out...08:41
xchenhello everyone08:59
DrManhattanHello, I'm running 16.04.2, I was wondering what the OFFICIAL word is from Ubuntu about using fstrim cronjob vs discard in fstab for ssds?09:07
k1l_DrManhattan: ubuntu setups a cronjob09:07
k1l_out of the box09:08
DrManhattanI'm curious what the performance difference would be on a samsung 850 EVO09:08
DrManhattanthanks k1l_09:08
YankDownUnderDrManhattan: My boot time (using an Evo SSD 256gb) is 8 seconds.09:09
DrManhattanYankDownUnder, are you using discard in fstab for that drive or no?09:10
hateballboot is mostly reads anyhow09:11
YankDownUnderDrManhattan: This is my entry: UUID=e48be3a0-572a-494b-875b-5c0b0a70858b / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 ===> nothing flash nuclear freaky.09:11
DrManhattanhmm, I use noatime and nodiratime on ssd's :)09:12
DrManhattanI haven't used a separate /boot partition in a long time09:12
DrManhattanif the drive is shot the drive is shot09:12
YankDownUnderDrManhattan: Ain't changed anything since installation - aside from adding a few drives. Everything "brown bag"09:12
DrManhattanYankDownUnder, ahh you are on Ubuntu Desktop and let it auto-partition?09:13
DamoYankDownUnder: sorry im back09:13
hateballDrManhattan: this is Ubuntus reasoning for fstrim vs discard anyhow https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-ssd-trimming09:13
DamoYankDownUnder: im on ubuntu 17.0409:13
YankDownUnderDamo: Open a terminal and type this: xset m 1/2 409:13
DrManhattanhateball, gracias!09:13
DamoYankDownUnder: okay i did that09:14
YankDownUnderDamo: Any difference in yer mouse habit?09:14
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DamoYankDownUnder: Nope09:15
DamoYankDownUnder: what was that mouse thing you wanted me to get09:15
YankDownUnderDamo: Right...well, in that same term: sudo apt-get install mousetweaks => install that, run that..see if THAT does anything...09:16
YankDownUnderDamo: Just gave you the instructs...09:16
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YankDownUnderDamo: "mousetweaks"09:16
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Damookay i installed it, how do i run it?09:17
DamoYankDownUnder: okay i installed it, how do i run it09:17
YankDownUnderDamo: It should show up in your menus (should) - then again, you should be able to find it in the /usr/bin directory if you want to run it from the terminal...09:18
YankDownUnderDamo: Yeah - just "mousetweaks" (duh on me...I'm getting tired...it's late)09:18
DamoYankDownUnder: i typed "mousetweaks" in terminal and nothing happened09:19
DrManhattanYankDownUnder, I highly recommend setting the noatime and nodiratime options for your ssd into /etc/fstab09:19
DrManhattanshould cut down the writes quite a bit09:19
YankDownUnderDamo: If it's installed, as it says it is...then in the terminal you should be able to merely type: mousetweaks ==> simple as that...09:20
DamoYankDownUnder: i typed "mousetweaks" in terminal and it had done nothing, i dont have damo@root anymore at the start of the line but thats about it09:21
YankDownUnderDamo: Hit CTRL+C => then type: mousetweaks --help09:22
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YankDownUnderDamo: Another thing to do is to go into the Accessibility settings - either turn off or turn on anything to do with the mouse or trackpad...09:24
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p3rrorhello09:25
p3rrorWhat is the nature of this hash : J/qBjWpMxGmzdhmoijwX3g==09:25
YankDownUnderDrManhattan: I'll experiement on a different machine - not this one...have the same setup on a different machine that is NOT a production/working machine...and originally, before installing 16.04 on this, I did some digging and was advised to just let the system deal with the SSD's performance...so, at least on this machine, ain't had any issues from that point...09:25
DrManhattanright on09:26
DamoYankDownUnder: there are heaps of options with the mousetweaks --help09:28
DamoYankDownUnder: what one do i use09:29
YankDownUnderDamo: Did you read what I wrote? Go into Accessibility options, turn off anything and everything to do with mouse/mouse control...and anything to do with trackpad...09:29
YankDownUnderDamo: Close the terminal and give up on "mousetweak" for a while...what works here AIN'T working there - and I ain't using 17.04 - NOR a Razer mouse...(luckily)09:30
DamoYankDownUnder: i dont have no accessibility options. do you mean mouse and touchpad?09:31
YankDownUnderDamo: There's little help on the net for this shit...09:32
pd1Damo, i think he means universal Access (?!?)09:32
Damooh okay09:32
DamoYankDownUnder: everything in universal access for pointing and clicking is turned off09:33
DamoYankDownUnder: in fact, everything in universal access is turned off09:34
YankDownUnderDamo: Just to let you know - as per what's being written in the forums - ain't a fix.09:34
DamoYankDownUnder: What ubuntu r u using09:35
YankDownUnderDamo: 16.04 - I don't ever use dev releases anymore...09:35
DamoYankDownUnder: is there a way of me downloading the ubuntu 16.04 iso and just overwriting the partition with 17.04 on it>09:36
YankDownUnderDamo: Here's something of interest: http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html09:36
YankDownUnderDamo: It's a "Razer Configuration Tool" - might be worth checking out...09:36
DamoYankDownUnder: ill; try it09:37
YankDownUnderDamo: If it fixes ya up, then it's worth it...saves ya from having to blow out all the work you've already done, eh...09:38
YankDownUnderDamo: So read it all carefully. Twice.09:38
DamoYankDownUnder: if im correct, when i git clone the file, do i go onto the file and open it into terminal and type ./load?09:41
YankDownUnderDamo: You'd have to build it. Personally, I'd download the bzip archive and compile it on my own.09:41
YankDownUnderDamo: In the "git clone" there will be instructions and a really nice README and other docos...read them...09:42
DamoYankDownUnder: this is all flubba too me09:43
YankDownUnderDamo: I just found out that it's also part of the PPA's - so you might find it doing (in a terminal): apt search razercfg09:44
DamoYankDownUnder: its talking about dependencies and cmake and stuff like that09:44
YankDownUnderDamo: Open a term -> type: apt search razercfg ==> see what shows up...09:45
DamoYankDownUnder: it said sorting... done then full text search done... and that was it09:45
YankDownUnderDamo: Have you enabled all the optional PPA's?09:46
DamoYankDownUnder: how do i do that?09:46
DamoYankDownUnder: im new to ubuntu09:46
YankDownUnderDamo: In your software centre, you have a listing of PPA sources...enable all the community sources and extra sources...09:47
YankDownUnderDamo: As well...there is this: http://tipsonubuntu.com/2017/04/18/install-ubuntu-tweak-ubuntu-17-04/09:48
DamoYankDownUnder: when you say software centre. Do you mean Ubuntu Software?09:49
ducasseDamo: he means 'software and updates' in the settings09:49
ducasseDamo: but it's not in the official repos, must be a ppa.09:50
Damoducasse: What am i enabling?09:50
YankDownUnderI shave my head...I can't pull any hair out...damn09:50
YankDownUnderWell, at least now I know that there's a "razercfg" and a "qrazercfg" available for 17.04...09:50
YankDownUnderDamo: Where you can choose what sources are available...09:51
Damoi give up..09:51
Damoall of this is rocket science09:52
YankDownUnderDamo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes09:53
DamoYankDownUnder: the only things in my software thing are ubuntu software, other software, updates, authentication, additional drivers and developer options09:53
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YankDownUnderDamo: So choose: Other software -> if it's not ticked already...09:54
DamoYankDownUnder: in that ive ticked everything that has ppa in it09:54
CrazyTuxhello, please help me. When I click the reload icon on Synaptic Package Manager I am getting this error...http://paste.ubuntu.com/24419244/09:54
YankDownUnderDamo: Right...so save all that jazz...close it.09:55
DamoYankDownUnder: yep done09:55
CrazyTuxcan anybody please let me know what is the problem there?09:56
ducasseCrazyTux: you are banned here, and you know that. please don't try to evade it.09:56
CrazyTuxducasse, why?09:56
YankDownUnderDamo: Open a terminal.09:56
DamoYankDownUnder: yep09:56
YankDownUnderDamo: In the terminal type: sudo apt-get update09:57
ducasseCrazyTux: if you want to discuss it, take it up in #ubuntu-ops09:57
CrazyTuxI am using Ubuntu. Why you are banning me?09:57
DamoYankDownUnder: done09:57
YankDownUnderDamo: Now, in the terminal, type: apt search razercfg09:58
Night_Hey has anyone seen this even when running 17.04?  "Ubuntu 12.04 LTS end-of-life is April 25, 2017 -- Upgrade your Precise systems!"09:58
Ben64Night_: are you sure you're running 17.0409:58
DamoYankDownUnder: it did the exact same thing it did before09:58
YankDownUnderDamo: So it's not showing up?09:59
DamoYankDownUnder: nope09:59
ducasseNight_: Ben64: it does that on both my zesty machines as well09:59
Ben64ducasse: weird09:59
Dualityhi09:59
DamoYankDownUnder: i already have the razer cfg file tho, its on my desktop09:59
Dualityunity doesn't start i think, after login in the only thing that appears is a background image09:59
Night_Release:        17.0409:59
Night_Codename:       zesty09:59
DamoYankDownUnder: the readme file is so jibberish to me tho10:00
Dualitywhat logs can i look at to figure it out ?10:00
Night_Duality:  lets see after april 15 if it goes away10:00
rockworldmiHi all10:00
ducasseDuality: try logging in as guest10:00
YankDownUnderDamo: It's late for me...it might behoove you to read up a bit on Ubuntu...I'll be back online tomorrow...and there might be others here now that might be able to help with this...but for me, it's late, I'm old and bed calls10:01
DamoYankDownUnder: ok, bye man10:01
rockworldmiI am following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI for Sony vaio laptop but enable to boot with uefi10:02
Damoducasse: are you still here10:06
ducasseDamo: yes, but ask your questions to the channel10:06
DualityNight_: it's 20'th of April here10:07
Dualityit's a dev board but if the desktop won't start i can't test things10:08
Duality:S10:08
ducasseDuality: does it work if you log in as guest?10:09
CrazyTuxducasse, please help me.10:09
Night_Duality:  hehe gotta love it10:09
Night_Duality:  did you upgrade from 16.xx?10:10
Night_I did not get 4.10 kernel only 4.810:10
hetiiHi :)10:12
Dualityducasse: i don't have a keyboard or mouse connected but did make a autologin config for lightdm, would that be the user guest ?10:12
hetiishort question: how the hell I can pass to shell script name of of that have multiple spaces like "foo bar   xyz.txt" ?10:13
hetiiI try get it by reading $@ var but its translated to  "foo bar xyz.txt"10:13
hetiiand I need to get proper file path10:13
blackflowhetii: put it in quotes like you did here :)10:13
ducasseDuality: i'm not sure how the guest session stuff works, other than being a 'clean' session. what kind of board is this?10:14
hetiiblackflow, you mean "$@" ?10:14
blackflowhetii: no I mean the filename with spaces10:14
blackflowhetii: but yes, in a script you should also put vars that might contain string with spaces, inside quotes10:14
pynkihetii, ./script.sh "what              ever with spaces.txt"10:14
hetiithe file name is pass to the script by file manager (I try to open .url fles and pass url to firefox10:15
hetiiso when I click by file with .url extension then my scrip should be called and file name is passed to ir10:15
hetii*to it10:16
hetiiwithout my interaction10:16
hetiiso I cannot add " "10:16
faugusztinhetii: you get it escaped from the other app, no ?10:16
blackflowhetii: it's probably using shell escaping otherwise it'd be a very severe security issue10:16
faugusztinso it will be what10:16
Night_meh kernel upgrade brb10:16
faugusztinwhat\ ever\ with\ spaces.txt10:16
blackflowhetii: so use the first param variable, $1 and put it in quotes, in your script, eg.   echo "$1"10:16
faugusztinhetii: that is how you should receive the path, imo10:17
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faugusztinhetii: or maybe you are looking for http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7126580/expand-a-possible-relative-path-in-bash ?10:17
sliptteesHi guys.. I have Disk imminent to failure, so i try clone for new harddrive and I can't copy more than 3,7GB of 640GB. msg "dd: errpr reading 'standard input': Input/Output error" I use "dd if= of= conv=noerror, sync"10:18
sliptteesany help?10:18
ducasseslipttees: use ddrescue from gddrescue package instead10:19
sliptteesducasse: i try bro ;-)10:19
pynki!info libowfat10:21
Dualityducasse: sorry i am reflashing it right now with new firmware10:21
ubottuPackage libowfat does not exist in zesty10:21
Dualityducasse: jetson tx210:22
sliptteesducasse: so, "pv /dev/sda | ddrescue of=/dev/sdb bs=100M conv=noerror; sync"10:22
pynki:/10:22
pynkiDuality, what problems do you have?10:22
ducasseslipttees: read the ddrescue man page, the syntax is slightly different iirc10:22
pynkiDuality, the ubuntu account should be configured auto login if you have flashed the jetpack or the example filesystem nvidia provides10:23
sliptteesducasse: yes10:23
Dualitypynki: after auto loging in, the destop appears with only a background image10:23
pynkiDuality, you flashed with the jetpack 3.0 installer?10:23
Dualityyes10:23
pynkiDuality, you have a serial to usb adapter?10:24
ducasseslipttees: https://datarecovery.com/rd/how-to-clone-hard-disks-with-ddrescue/10:24
Dualitypynki: i am currently reflashing it with jetpack3.0 to see if that fixes it10:25
pynkiDuality, the J21 pins give you a serial console to check the boot process. could check logs there10:25
Dualitypynki: that did the trick :D10:28
pynkiDuality, if the jetpack flshing has problems download the BSP and the example filesystem and flash them as in the quick start guide10:28
pynkiDuality, OK!10:28
sliptteesducasse: ddrescue output file exists and is not a regular file10:29
slipttees:/10:29
mc_failhi guys, i'm trying to update from 15.04 to 15.10 so i can update to 16.04 then, but it seems like all repositories for it are removed now, i'm getting 404 everywhere when i run apt-get update10:30
mc_failis there any fix for it?10:30
mc_failall mirrors i have in sources.list look like old-releases.ubuntu.com10:31
sliptteesducasse: use --force and go10:31
sliptteeskkk10:31
ducassemc_fail: did you try the regular archives before trying old-releases?10:34
mc_failducasse i didn't try abything actually10:37
mc_failit was like that when i started this computer10:37
ducassemc_fail: i think you should, i actually don't think those repos have been removed from the archives yet.10:37
oerheksi would do a fresh install, 16.04 brings too many changes.10:37
mc_failoerheks do you think the upgrade may break everything?10:39
oerheksmc_fail, no, but a fresh start with systemD would be my choise.10:40
oerheks.. and it is much faster than 2x upgrade10:40
sliptteesuipi, gnome is back!! :-)10:42
thyriaenHi, is there a way to have a partly transparent picture ontop of your screen but you can interact with the stuff behind ? I would like to have this kind of "overlay" so i can kinda draw it in my program of choice if you understand what i mean :)10:45
rud0lfuse gimp and layer transparency?10:48
rud0lfjust a random thought10:48
cainewanna h4x the russiams10:52
ducasse!ot | caine10:53
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bazhangcaine, not topical here, please stop10:53
BluesKajHi folks10:58
pynkialoa10:58
l0llip0phi10:58
thyriaenrud0lf, i do not know gimp but that sounds like a plausible solution - however i use mypaint, which is a drawing kinda program designed for use with wacompad+stylus - i do not like to change it and i dont think that program has that functionality : thus i am looking for a general case10:59
proxx_Oh damn nigga11:00
pynki!info python-xlib | thyriaen11:01
ubottuthyriaen: python-xlib (source: python-xlib): interface for Python to the X11 protocol. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.14+20091101-5 (zesty), package size 98 kB, installed size 740 kB11:01
thyriaenpynki, oh thank you - just to be clear - are you suggesting a write a little python program that does that for me ?11:03
detlyI'm trying to install Ubuntu 17.04 from USB onto a Lenovo Yoga 460 - I got to the screen "Preparing to install Ubuntu", selected "Download updates while installing Ubuntu" and "Install third-party software...", entered a passphrase to disable secure boot, and clicked "Continue". Now the mouse spinner has been going for about 15 minutes with no signs of progress.11:07
detlyWhat should I try next?11:07
pynkithyriaen, when i got you right you want an overlay over the whole screen(?) or windows (?) that is transparent and independant of the window manager, right?11:07
pynkii like tath there is a wikipedia page for "independant" saying: 1. Misspelling if independent :D11:07
adachttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/c8ac84e861d0bcd93337a2926acccce1 this is hwoing me the docker installations. However when I do:  apt-get remove docker-engine it says:11:07
adacPackage 'docker-engine' is not installed, so not removed11:07
adacany ideas?11:07
thyriaenyes pynki whole screen or window is both fine with me11:10
pynkithyriaen, the lib i suggested should be able to draw what ever you want on the screen11:11
thyriaenpynki, sounds cool - is it a little program i pass the picture to or is it a python library i write a little program around ?11:12
detlyah, turns out the answer was: wait for 30 mins11:14
pynkithyriaen, i never used the lib. have a look at this example https://github.com/python-xlib/python-xlib/blob/master/examples/draw.py. seems to enable you drawing on a window11:14
pynkithyriaen, its a libibrary you write your python code aroubnd11:14
implitewoot we are talking about python in the ubuntu channel11:16
thyriaenokay pynki thanks a lot - will try that out11:17
thyriaenimplite, if ubuntu cant do it - one has to do it for oneself11:17
implitewell normally they jump on the !ot button so fast11:18
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thyriaenwhat does !ot do ?11:20
thyriaenah off topic :P11:20
implite!ot : thyriaen11:20
ubottuimplite: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:20
implite!ot11:20
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:20
jordilammh... i (apparently) installed from LiveUSB, onto a Windows 10. Choosing to remove Winbugs partitions... Install process finalized succesfully. Yet, i cannot (re)boot it. "Boot failure a proper digital signature was not found" .    S.O.S.11:22
rejnshello guys, i'm having problems with waking up computer from suspend (ubuntu 16.04.2). Sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, I noticed when computer is suspended for longer period of time usually won't wake up11:31
rejnshow to diagnose this ?11:31
bonsaitreeMy Wi-Fi link speed problem is still unresolved. I get the same speeds as i got before and as declared by my ISP when i am on Ethernet (on Linux) and when i am on both Wi-Fi and Ethernet on Windows. I was suspicious that the origin of the problem is because i have been removing certain bin files in /lib/firmware, but it turned out that it's not the case, since i did a fresh install and the problem is still here. I now suspect that it's a certain11:39
bonsaitreesystem update that messed things up. Any ideas?11:39
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pynkibonsaitree, is 11n enabled? read something yesterday about another intel wifi card while looking for problems with the 620011:41
pynkiits the advanced 6200 problem right or am i on the wrong topic?11:42
bonsaitreepynki: Yes, i wrote yesterday too11:42
klemaxI've added 250 ips for squid server but users have been still connecting on main IP. What am i missing exactly?11:42
bonsaitreepynki:It is disabled in the .conf file, checked yesterday11:42
bonsaitreepynki, Actually that was before the fresh install, so let me check again11:43
bonsaitreepynki, Since lots of members here told me that disabling the N functionality actually resolves the link speed issue.11:44
indelab5how do i install a windows VM11:47
pynki!info virtualbox | indelab511:48
ubottuindelab5: virtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.1.18-dfsg-1build1 (zesty), package size 15090 kB, installed size 68421 kB11:48
bonsaitreepynki, Yes, it is disabled11:48
pynkitry to enable it. i do not get why it should make the wifgi slower exept for driver issues. but i have no insight in the issue on the ubuntu driver side11:49
satanisthi is there a way to apt-pin the current installed version?11:49
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bonsaitreepynki, I did, the bandwidth is the same. In some cases not even reaching 20 Mbit/s, maxing at 16. I have also tried with downloading a torrent, to see the real speed of the link and it is really the same as Speedtest is telling.11:53
indelab5how the heck do i install virtualbox11:54
hateball!virtualbox11:55
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox11:55
pynkiindelab5, apt-get install virtualbox11:55
pynkiindelab5, or use the "software center" if you have the time....11:56
L00P3XGreetings.. seems there is no gparted related channel over freenode so i may ask here because it relates to future ubuntu install..  i also would restore and wipe this oold harddrive to zero before installing a new system.. seems gparted live doesn't have this function and I haven't could find livecds or secure ways to do so.. thank you12:07
L00P3X*wipe to zero12:07
pynki!info shred | LOOP3X12:08
ubottuLOOP3X: Package shred does not exist in zesty12:08
blackflowL00P3X: you can use dd from the live USB to wipe out a drive12:09
Ben64it's in coreutils12:09
Ben64but really, just dd if=/dev/zero of=drive12:09
L00P3Xpynky, ubottu, what that means12:09
blackflowadd bs=1M because default is 4k12:09
L00P3Xhy Ben64, what a live cd should i use?12:10
Ben64ubuntu12:10
L00P3Xoh.. so i run it live and use the terminal?12:10
L00P3Xand continue whit install?12:11
Ben64if that's what you want to do yes12:11
L00P3Xi would simply wipe this drive to 0.. it has many block and is very old12:12
Ben64it's not really necessary to do that12:12
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L00P3Xused gparted since now and doesn't knowed about this missing function12:12
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L00P3Xben64, what would you suggest?12:13
Ben64to just delete the partitions and install12:13
dcmertensWhat's a good channel for static IP configuration troubles?12:13
L00P3Xit's may a usless step wipe it to 0?12:14
Ben64L00P3X: yes12:14
bonsaitreeMy Wi-Fi link speed problem is still unresolved. I get the same speeds as i got before and as declared by my ISP when i am on Ethernet (on Linux) and when i am on both Wi-Fi and Ethernet on Windows. I was suspicious that the origin of the problem is because i have been removing certain bin files in /lib/firmware, but it turned out that it's not the case, since i did a fresh install and the problem is still here. I now suspect that it's a certain12:14
bonsaitreesystem update that messed things up. Any ideas?12:14
blackflowzeroing sectors on an old drive would flush out bad sectors and force reallocation. Better to do that before real data is put on it, plus many bad sectors would indicate if you better replace the drive12:14
L00P3Xthis would me save a lot of paranoia Ben64.. but thought this could refresh this oold drive12:14
Ben64L00P3X: thats why i said you can do it if you want12:15
L00P3Xwhen i actualy start ubuntu i a lot of blocks on the first black screen12:15
L00P3Xdoesn't know why12:15
L00P3Xfor get secure.. ubuntu also handles blank drives if i still do it? simply use livecd, wipe, install12:17
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dcmertensHello all. I'm trying to set up my machine to use a static IP address. I think I've set up /etc/network/interface properly, but it won't connect12:18
Ben64dcmertens: give details, use hastebin.com if you need multiple lines12:19
dcmertenshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24419888/12:19
dcmertensIT guys gave me this to work with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24419892/12:20
guest-ryjm5m!!12:20
XatenevHi12:20
XatenevSuddenly I have no sound anymore.12:20
guest-ryjm5mhi12:20
XatenevI had that issue some weeks ago - and managed to fix it by typing in sudo alsactl restore12:20
guest-ryjm5mwhy?12:20
XatenevThis time - it doesn't work12:20
dcmertenswhen I let Network Manager work on its own, it works fine, but then my IP address is, presumably, not static12:20
Xatenevic12:21
Xatenevhttps://bpaste.net/show/00c2f807db8c12:21
XatenevI get that output from sudo alsactl restore12:21
XatenevAny idea what I can try?=(12:21
Ben64dcmertens: did you know # means this line is a comment12:22
dcmertensBen64, yes12:22
Ben64so how would that ever work12:22
dcmertensIf it's uncommented, I wouldn't be online. :-)12:22
Ben64why isn't enp0s31f6 in there at all12:23
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dcmertensBen64, I thought if it's not in .../interfaces, then NetworkManager handles it12:24
XatenevNobody?12:24
bonsaitreeMy Wi-Fi link speed problem is still unresolved. I get the same speeds as i got before and as declared by my ISP when i am on Ethernet (on Linux) and when i am on both Wi-Fi and Ethernet on Windows. I was suspicious that the origin of the problem is because i have been removing certain bin files in /lib/firmware, but it turned out that it's not the case, since i did a fresh install and the problem is still here. I now suspect that it's a certain12:24
bonsaitreesystem update that messed things up. Any ideas?12:24
Ben64dcmertens: why not set up static ip in the network manager then12:24
* dcmertens shrugs12:24
dcmertenssame problem12:24
Ben64try that12:24
dcmertensI felt like the documentation for /etc/network/interfaces was more thorough, and covered more corner cases, so I thought I'd go with that12:25
Ben64here's a question... what ip does enp0s31f6 have now12:25
dcmertensBen64, similar: 198.187.213.5712:25
dcmertensas opposed to the assigned 198.187.213.24512:26
Ben64and network mask?12:26
dcmertenssame: 255.255.255.012:26
Ben64can you ping other computers on the network when it's static12:26
dcmertensYes... well, I've tried pinging a google server by direct IP address12:27
pynkitry to ping 198.187.213.24512:27
dcmertenspynki, nothing12:27
Ben64try something more like 198.187.213.112:28
pynkiBen64, just wanted to make sure no iother device has his ip address12:28
Ben64pynki: i know12:29
dcmertensthat works with my machine as currently running, but I can try again when the machine is using a static IP addres12:29
dcmertenspynki++12:29
Ben64but i'm saying start local instead of google12:29
dcmertensBen64, right, but nonlocal IP addresses worked, so presumably local would also work12:29
Ben64when did nonlocal work12:30
dcmertensBen64, only when I entered the exact IP address12:30
dcmertensbut not when I said "ping google.com"12:30
Ben64you didn't mention that12:30
dcmertenssorry12:30
Ben64so it's a dns problem12:30
dcmertensyeah12:30
Ben64easy, pick the right dns12:30
dcmertenssomething I figured out yesterday12:30
dcmertensbut forgot by this morning12:30
* dcmertens feels a little sheepish12:30
pynkithen ping 198.187.214.212:31
dcmertenspynki, that works12:31
pynki"nslookup google.com 198.187.214.2" resolves?12:32
dcmertenspynki, I can check12:32
* dcmertens grabs laptop12:32
dcmertenshmm, very odd, I can't get on to #ubuntu on my other machine12:34
AlbertJBHello. I have a doubt. I use to work on Ubuntu (Linux) OS, and I frequently use very long names for files. I have a NTFS partition where I store all my data, with no problems. I have even copied all files to an external NTFS Hard Drive. But what a surprise when I try to copy those files to another PC with Windows 7. The system is not able to copy some files with long names or long pathnames. From what I know, Windows 7 is NTFS.12:34
AlbertJBSo, could you explain me please what the hell ocurs here? Thanks in advance.12:34
Ben64AlbertJB: ntfs is weird, for more information ask ##windows12:36
dcmertens_Ben64, restarting server with static IP, cross your fingers...12:36
pynkiAlbertJB, like bigger than 255 chars?12:37
AlbertJByes12:37
pynkiAlbertJB, then ntfs just is not able to do it12:37
AlbertJBwith comas and parenthesis12:37
pynkihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems12:37
AlbertJBfor example, /media/dades/Documents /Estudis/1997-2001  -  IES Ramon Muntaner/1997-1999 - ESO/Altres/Treballs, redaccions../Premis Literaris Sant Jordi Ramon Muntaner (ESO)/1999/El tresor del fons del mar. Per quan arribi el dia (1r Premi Ramon Muntaner Poesia 1999).doc12:40
AlbertJBthis is a pathname12:40
pynkiif its more that 255 chars you exceed the limits of what ntfs can do12:40
pynkifor the filename12:41
AlbertJBbut this file IS ON an NTFS partition12:41
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AlbertJB:S12:41
dcmertensBen64, pynki so... it now appears to be working12:41
dcmertenssometimes you just need somebody else to look over your shoulder12:41
bonsaitreeMy Wi-Fi link speed problem is still unresolved. I get the same speeds as i got before and as declared by my ISP when i am on Ethernet (on Linux) and when i am on both Wi-Fi and Ethernet on Windows. I was suspicious that the origin of the problem is because i have been removing certain bin files in /lib/firmware, but it turned out that it's not the case, since i did a fresh install and the problem is still here. I now suspect that it's a certain12:41
bonsaitreesystem update that messed things up. I have also tried logging with different kernel versions but there is no difference. Any ideas?12:41
dcmertensBen64++12:42
dcmertenspynki++12:42
akikAlbertJB: the path you pasted is less than 255 chars, it's 24512:43
akikAlbertJB: starting from Documents12:43
AlbertJBhmm12:43
AlbertJBwell windows 7 does not support it12:43
akikAlbertJB: you have ".." in the dir name. does that cause the problem?12:44
Ben64should really be asking about ntfs filename limitation on windows 7 in ##windows12:45
Ben64it's not an ubuntu issue12:45
pynkiand the whole thing 157 chars long12:46
pynki25712:46
pynkiand Ben64 is right - we can just speculate here or share google insight12:46
akikpynki: /media/dades is not on the ntfs12:47
AlbertJBsorry yes it's the .. in this case12:47
AlbertJBis there any program that scan a File System to check all the files not supported by NTFS? any idea..12:49
Ben64AlbertJB: no12:49
akikAlbertJB: this is a topic for ##windows. i wasn't even able to create a dir ending with ".."12:50
AlbertJBok12:50
AlbertJBbut it's strange that I could copy all those files to an external NTFS hard drive without any problem12:52
L00P3Xthank you guys.. i'm out12:54
impliteAlbertJB12:59
impliteyes linux can read ntfs partitions13:00
implitewhat is the issue you are having?13:00
implite!ntfs13:00
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE13:00
Southern_Gentlemimplite, his path with filename is longer than 25513:01
gerihi how can i compare the 2 gzcat outputs?13:01
Southern_Gentlemdiff file1 file213:01
impliteya then changing the folder names and stuff really helps a lot13:02
implitethere was a program i had when copying stuff it asked me if i wanted to change the folder names13:02
implitei think it was teracopy or something like that13:03
geriSouthern_Gentlem: the output of gzcat output?13:04
AlbertJBsorry for the delay, implite, my issue is that I can't copy some long filenames or pathnames to W713:04
AlbertJBwhile I am able to do it to a NTFS partition13:05
akikAlbertJB: did you rename the ".." and try again the operation?13:05
AlbertJBcould you help me please write a regex expression or script to check longer than 255 characters filenames?13:06
AlbertJBakik not yet, because I have the problem with lots of other files13:06
AlbertJBnot related to ..13:06
AlbertJBbut thanks for the help13:07
ale_how to install slack on ubuntu mate?13:08
geriSouthern_Gentlem: how can i pass text and not a file to diff?13:08
nieehi folks. how to install python-statgrab in mint 1713:09
oerheksale_, sudo apt install slack # and make sure you have universe repo enabled13:10
ale_ssh: Could not resolve hostname slack-master: Name or service not known13:10
ale_rsync: did not see server greeting13:10
ale_rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1653) [Receiver=3.1.1]13:10
ale_FATAL[slack-getroles]: 'rsync --links --times -e ssh slack-master::slack/etc/roles.conf /var/cache/slack/_role_list' exited 5 at /usr/lib/slack/slack-getroles line 158.13:10
ale_FATAL[slack]: '/usr/lib/slack/slack-getroles' exited 5 at /usr/sbin/slack line 205.13:10
ale_you know this error?13:10
oerheks!find python-statgrab13:10
ubottuPackage/file python-statgrab does not exist in zesty13:10
oerheksniee, ask the mint channel, it is not in our ubuntu repos13:11
nieeok13:11
nieeoerheks, mint channel is empty13:12
oerheksniee, it is on spotchat irc13:12
oerheks!mint13:12
ubottuThe Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)13:12
nieeok tnx oerheks13:13
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alexandreo#r/leagueoflegends13:25
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salvaI had upgraded to beta zesty several months ago, and then run "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" frequently, but since 17.04 was released, I am not getting any new package. Is that expected? Are the repos still frozen?13:38
Ben64salva: maybe switch repos13:39
sb_9hi folks13:39
sliptteeshi13:40
daveomcdi've tried installing gnome on my ubuntu machine a couple of times now, each time I go completely through the installation and set it to use gdm3 instead of lightdm, but once I restart, it always hangs on reboot - and then I have to revert to an earlier snapshot of my system in vmware.  Anyone know what I'm perhaps doing wrong?13:42
Ben64daveomcd: how are you installing13:42
daveomcdBen64, I've done it two different ways, one was a sudo get install command (forget the exact package something like gnome-ubuntu-desktop) and also I tried by clicking a link to apt://gnome-shell on omgubuntu.co.uk13:44
daveomcdboth gave me the same results13:44
Ben64after installing ubuntu-gnome-desktop you can select it from the login screen13:45
daveomcdBen64, the problem is it never makes it to the login screen... perhaps because I always choose gdm3? I can reinstall and tell  you exactly where it hangs at13:45
Ben64don't mess with that13:46
Ben64just install gnome and select it at login13:46
daveomcdok let me try again with lightdm13:46
john__hi13:47
john__test13:48
daveomcdjohn__, we can see your messages13:48
john__yay13:48
john__bye13:48
Xatenevlmao13:50
[US][LINUX][A]^8Hello guys! Could you help me with an error? I want to install libssh-0.1 on my Ubuntu Server 17.04, but I get some errors: https://pastebin.com/U3GQ8fwW13:50
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Ben64LordLupus: compiling your own stuff isn't supported in here13:51
LordLupusNo, I want to install libssh-0.1.13:51
Ben64looks a lot like compiling13:51
indelab5I installed VirtualBox from the terminal, but now I don't know how to open it. (I couldn't find it in the files or applications menu) Anyone know how to do this???13:52
LordLupusYes, I need it to compile a file, but I know how to compile it. That file requires libssh-0.1 :|.13:52
Ben64LordLupus: so again, compiling isn't supported in this channel13:52
LordLupusindelab5, what Operating System are you using?13:53
indelab5Ubuntu MATE13:53
Ben64indelab5: "virtualbox"13:53
indelab5i installed virtualbox from the terminal, fyi13:54
scottjltype "virtualbox" on a command line.13:54
LordLupusI have no idea.13:54
indelab5ok thx13:55
scottjlindelab5: just a general tip, if you're unsure what commands to use in the command line, try something like man -k <keyword> and you'll get a list of commands that have that in the man page. like man -k virtualbox13:56
bonsaitreeIs there a way to install the 4.10 kernel, without updating the distro version?13:56
bonsaitreeOr the 16.04 won't work well with 4.10 kernel?13:56
Ben64bonsaitree: you're on 16.04 now?13:56
bonsaitreeBen62:Yes13:56
bonsaitree16.04.213:57
Ben64bonsaitree: what kernel13:57
bonsaitreeBen64, 4.4.0-72-generic13:57
Ben64bonsaitree: install linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge13:58
daveomcdBen64, got it up and running thanks for the help!13:59
bonsaitreeBen64, Thanks14:00
bonsaitreeBen64, install: missing destination file operand after 'linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge'14:00
dstepanenko#openstack-meeting-alt14:01
dannyLopezHI.14:16
pvh_sahey there, I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 with latest upgrades, using a Dell XPS 15 9550. I've got a problem like described here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/804835/suspend-works-as-shutdown - suspend shuts down the computer. any ideas?14:16
hitman1Sound not working in ubuntu 17.0414:18
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hitman1also I can't surf google, youtube, gmail on ubuntu while rest of the websites seems to be working fine.14:24
daveomcdI've had gnome freeze a couple of times now randomly when attempting to search/visit activities. I tried using Ctrl+Alt+F1 but nothing happens. How can I "unfreeze" my instance?14:38
dollyHello14:39
grantwuCan I do an upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04 and still keep GNOME as my default DE?  Currently running Ubuntu GNOME 16.10.14:41
scottjlgrantwu: you just choose your DE when you are at the login screen (GDM or whatever you're using)14:42
dollyscottjl: hi14:42
k1l_grantwu: there are no changes for 17.04.14:42
scottjldolly: hi.14:43
k1l_grantwu: the change comes after the 17.04 release. but there the upgrade will still work.14:43
ericuswhy would apache not show me the website of a domain.com/test site?14:44
ericusit shows me the files in /test insted14:44
ericusinstead*14:44
impliteHappy 4:20 ubuntu14:44
implite;)14:45
marvin2is it possible to change alt-tab's behavior to get it to show all windows instead of grouping same program windows together?14:45
k1l_ericus: not activated php module or what ever you use there?14:45
ericusthe actual domain works, and subdomains14:45
dollyHow to add the sound option to notification bar?14:48
oerheksdolly, on Unity ?14:49
dollyyes14:50
oerheksdolly, open systemsettings > sound > bottom of the 1st page = "show sound volume.. "14:50
dollyoerheks: it is already ticked.14:51
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oerheksdolly, then i have no clue14:51
dollyalso my left speaker isn't working and I know it is hardware problem.14:53
oerheks*if* there is no soundcard found, there will be no tools14:54
dollyok14:54
ozzpy_#zftalk14:54
oerheksI 've only seen that on a server14:55
thatlizdudeso today I tried to login and my Ubuntu didn't take the correct password, any ideas why? I had to restart it to work15:03
thatlizdudeI found it to be kind of a big issue, since then I couldn't access my console output that I needed15:05
blkadderthatlizdude Check the logs?15:06
thatlizdudeblkadder I don't have access to it right now... I was just wondering if this is some kind of known issue15:07
thatlizdudebecause having a system that won't take my password is useless for me15:07
lenovoola15:07
lenovobom dia15:08
thatlizdudedid this happen to anyone before?15:08
thatlizdudeok so when I'll be able to access it, what's the location of the logs?15:10
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blkadderthatlizdude Start with /var/log/auth.log and check messages as well15:14
ontoHi! I am trying to create an ubuntu 14.04 box with vagrant using nfs on a 16.04 host but I get the following error: "exportfs[1280]: exportfs: can't open /etc/exports for reading"; does anyone know what is causing this error?15:15
arunpyasiHello everyone15:18
arunpyasiwhy do I get error "iptables v1.6.0: multiple -d flags not allowed" when I run sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.100 -dport 554 -j DNAT -to-destination 10.8.0.2:554 ,15:19
naccarunpyasi: -d 192.168.1.100 and -dport15:20
naccarunpyasi: quite literally the exact error message you provided15:20
johnfgDoes xinit have to be installed separately from unity on server 17.04 for unity to work?15:20
zacktuI'm doing a straightforward upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 from Update Manager.  I have a message "While scanning your repository information no mirror entry for the upgrade was found. This can happen if you run an internal mirror or if the mirror information is out of date."  What do I modify?  turn off?  turn on?15:21
naccarunpyasi: i think you meant maybe --dport?15:21
johnfgi.e., just installing unity doesn't pull xinit in?15:22
ioriajohnfg, install ubuntu-desktop15:22
naccjohnfg: no, as it's not a full desktop environment on its own (afaict) from the packaging15:23
nacczacktu: are you using a non-public mirror?15:23
johnfgioria: I already installed unity.  Would you recommend that I remove unity, then install ubuntu-desktop?15:24
naccjohnfg: ubuntu-desktop depends on unity currently15:24
arunpyasinacc, hmm.. will try15:24
ioriajohnfg,  no, go on15:24
zacktunacc: I'm using the mirror at club.cc.cmu.edu.  Sometimes I use duke.edu or gatech.edu.15:25
johnfgSo just install ubuntu-desktop?15:25
ioriayep15:25
nacczacktu: all on the same system?15:25
ioriajohnfg, if you really want unity on a server ..15:25
zacktunacc:  yes15:25
nacczacktu: not exactly typical to switch mirrors. But possibly the current mirror is not syncd for some reason.15:25
arunpyasinacc, can you help me translate that command to firewalld ?15:26
johnfgioria: Yeah, I addressed that question yesterday.  I've really run no linux except servers, but have pretty much always had a desktop too, going back to the att 3b's.15:26
naccarunpyasi: i don't know antying about either, just translated the error15:26
zacktunacc:  I was on gatech.edu this AM.  The command line update stalled on updating headers, so I switched to cmu.edu.15:26
zacktunacc: switched on synaptic15:27
scottjlsure it was the right password? sure you didn't typo it? caps lock off? keyboard wasn't in dvorak mode?15:28
scottjloops.15:28
scottjlignore that15:28
ioriajohnfg, i'd advice against unity on a server... but the server installer itself gives you that optiopn15:28
ioria*option15:28
zacktunacc: maybe I should use  ubuntu.us or whatever the default server is named15:29
johnfgioria: I'm interested in your reason why not?  simply security?15:29
ioriajohnfg, big, heavy, troublesome15:29
scottjli guess it depends on your definition of "server"15:29
scottjlmost traditional servers run headless, so what's the point of a gui installed?15:29
scottjleven more so if it's a vm.15:30
johnfgioria: As 'servers' are much more affordable now, and headless, as scottjl said, I may keep just the ubuntu server without a gui at that time.15:30
scottjla gui could suck up cpu cycles which could be put to better use. but then again scheduling shouldn't give it much time if it's not active. same with memory use.15:31
ioriajohnfg, you may need a gui sometimes... but not necessarily Unity15:32
ioriajohnfg,  a light window manager  will be enough15:32
scottjlioria: if you have a console.15:32
ioriascottjl, yeah15:33
johnfgI do most of my server work through the cli anyway, but just doing what I'm used to.15:33
scottjland it would depend on if you had applications on it that for some reason you needed a gui vs. just managing in a command line.15:33
scottjloracle grid controller comes to mind.15:33
scottjlemergency use you want a web browser.15:34
johnfgFor me: kerberos server; openafs server; apache server; openldap server; etc.15:37
elichai2Hi, does unity has a feature that I can switch between windows with a shortcut button+number? (like in Plasma 5.9)15:40
johnfgioria: I use xfce on one of my machines now.  Is that the type you were thinking of?15:47
ioriajohnfg, xfce it's a full de... but yes .. slimmer than unity15:48
johnfgWhat are you thinking of?15:48
scottjli3wm15:49
scottjldoesn't get much slimmer15:49
scottjlwell maybe ratpoison. lol15:49
ioriajohnfg,  a wm, but xfce is ok15:50
johnfggotcha both, thanks.15:51
ioriait's ok15:51
scottjlonce i went to a tiling wm i never went back15:51
ioriatrue15:51
bonsaitreeIs it possible that a blackhat somehow capped my wi-fi card?15:52
scottjlbonsaitree: possible? yes. but to what purpose? are you running any QoS software on your server? your ap? your router?15:52
bonsaitreescottjl, I don't know, doing evil? The speedtest is behaving just like there is a cap placed on the link. Nope, not running anything.15:54
k1lbonsaitree: its more likely a driver issue or a routing/connection issue15:54
BluesKajbonsaitree:  suspect that someone piggybacking on your wifi ?15:54
zedtushhello?15:54
scottjlsomeone would have to break into your laptop to install some sort of throttle on your system. i'd say. unlikely.15:55
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scottjllook at your router(s), firewall(s), ISP for that matter.15:55
bonsaitreeBluesKaj:Maybe, there are at least 4 potential guys in 100m radius.15:55
scottjlmaybe you're sucking up too much of their bandwidth and they are teaching you a lesson?15:55
bonsaitreeBluesKaj:And i am pretty sure that they are much more knowledgeable than me.15:56
bonsaitreescottjl:How come?15:56
scottjlit would be far easier to throttle you through the AP or router.15:56
k1lbonsaitree: check your router.15:56
BluesKajthe ISP might be doing maintenence15:56
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bonsaitreeI am just thinking about every possibility, i did not state that *it is the case* :)15:57
k1lbonsaitree: then test with a clean system, not your installed one. but again: its very unlikely15:57
scottjlbonsaitree: how come? you tell me. why would these 4 potential guys want to hack into your system to throttle it?15:57
zedtushhey guys , where can i get some widgets from?15:57
BluesKajor maintenance even, hope you have a strong wifi pwd15:57
BluesKajbonsaitree:15:57
bonsaitreescottjl:I just said that there are and they are more knowledgeable.15:58
scottjlyes, but they would need motive.15:58
scottjlare you connected to your own personal AP?15:59
k1lbonsaitree: lets stick to actual technical issues in here :)15:59
bonsaitreescottjl:Showing dominance, curiosity, working for someone, free internet, etc. The motives are endless.16:00
bonsaitreescottjl:Yes, lol.16:00
scottjlok. so if you connect a different device to that AP, is it throttled too?16:00
BluesKajbonsaitree:  yes, but are you sharing or do you have your own router/modem ?16:00
bonsaitreescottjl:No.16:01
bonsaitreeThat's why i've said if my wifi card is capped.16:01
k1lbonsaitree: look at dmesg if there are issues16:01
scottjlcould be a driver issue, a configuration on the card, or a limitation of your card.16:01
scottjllook at the module for your card, are there any options you can configure?16:02
BluesKajnever heard o a wifi card being capped unless you have channel interference . it's most likely your network /ISP16:03
scottjlBluesKaj: he said other devices don't seem to be throttle16:03
BluesKajwhat other devices?16:05
bonsaitreeBluesKaj:Smartphones, Laptops16:05
k1lbonsaitree: so look at the systemlogs what is happening on your machine.16:06
scottjlsome cards have wonky options for network, speed, channel, etc. check your module's options.16:06
BluesKajguess he didn't see my question about sharing16:06
bonsaitreeBluesKaj:hang on16:06
scottjlbandwidth is capped, he can't see all our replies at once ;-)16:06
bonsaitreeBluesKaj:Own ONT with Wi-Fi functionality.16:06
bonsaitreescottjl:Lol16:07
bonsaitreescottjl:How to check the current module conf?16:07
scottjlcheck /etc/udev/rules.d ? /etc/modules.conf ?16:09
scottjlwhat's the module for the nic?16:09
scottjlsorry /etc/modules  (not modules.conf)16:10
BluesKajISP maintenance I bet16:10
bonsaitreerules.d is empty, modules.conf is an empty (unconfigured file)16:10
scottjlok. so look up what options there ARE for your card's module, maybe you need to configure it better16:11
CptKirk17.04 is very nice.16:11
arunpyasi Hello there, Can I access tcp protocols via UDP VPN connection ?16:11
bonsaitreescottjl, How do i do that?16:12
scottjlcan you? yes.16:12
CptKirkI had trouble with Nautilis and Nvidia drivers when I upgraded to 17.04 and instead of using the drivers from the software and updates panel I used the terminal to request the driver and install it. This seemed to solve it.16:13
scottjlbonsaitree: do you know what module is loaded for your nic?16:13
bonsaitreescottjl, Yes, iwlwifi16:13
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blkadderarunpyasi UDP is just the transport/encapsulation mechanism for traffic16:14
warrshrikeunity is dead16:14
warrshrikekde or gnome. whats better?16:14
blkadderLong live disunity!16:14
warrshrikeblkadder: amen to that16:14
scottjlwarrshrike: i3wm!16:14
scottjlbonsaitree: are you also using bluetooth?16:15
warrshrikescottjl: wha16:15
bonsaitreescottjl, Nope16:15
arunpyasiblkadder, hmm, so it will right ! :)16:15
blkadderarunpyasi, Yes.16:15
arunpyasiblkadder, and how do I route an Ip camera's 554 RTSP port to a PC ?16:16
arunpyasiblkadder, I hope you got my point.16:16
KeytapGot a question.  I need a copy of ubuntu (gnome) relatively quickly, but the ubuntu servers are apparently crawling right now.  I'd download it via torrent client, but I can't because they've blocked it here.16:16
pynkiarunpyasi, what do you want to do with that port?16:17
KeytapAny speedy direct download mirrors?16:17
blkadderarunpyasi No, I have no idea what you are asking about.16:17
pynkiarunpyasi, rtsp is a on demand thing. you need a "client" program to get the video.16:17
pynki!info vlc | arunpyasi16:17
ubottuarunpyasi: vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-14ubuntu2 (zesty), package size 39 kB, installed size 218 kB16:17
CptKirkKeytap - buy a linux magazine with a disc16:18
scottjlbonsaitree: https://pastebin.com/TGVAE88i16:19
arunpyasiok blkadder16:19
ioriaKeytap, you can have the mini.iso in 2 minutes16:19
arunpyasipynki, yeah, the thing is, I am trying to stream via VPN network16:19
scottjlbonsaitree: try creating that file and try out those various options in it. you'll probably have to reboot (or unload and reload the kernel module)16:19
arunpyasipynki, I have an IP cam which is on client1 and it needs to be accessed via client2 which is on the same VPN16:20
blkadderarunpyasi You need an identifiable end point to talk to.16:20
blkadderOpen ports, etc.16:20
pynkiarunpyasi, "on" client1? means conencted to client1?16:20
bonsaitreescottjl, If i reboot it will reload the kernel module in any case, or i should explicitly do that if i want to assure that it *will* be reloaded?16:20
blkadderIs this VPN something you control?16:20
arunpyasipynki, yes, connected on client116:21
arunpyasiblkadder, yes, its my VPN server16:21
arunpyasiclient1 has openvpn client running16:21
pynkiarunpyasi, share the network behind client1, use openvpn than its quite easy16:21
scottjlbonsaitree: if you reboot it will certainly reload the module with whatever options are in the file. if you can unload and reload the module on the command line it should pick up changed options then too.16:21
scottjlbonsaitree: if you're comfortable reloading modules on the command line. that's faster.16:21
arunpyasipynki, yes, I am using OpenVPN.. How can I share the CAM via openvpn ?16:22
DArqueBishoparunpyasi: these questions might be better suited for #openvpn, which you are also in.16:22
scottjlbonsaitree: there are some other options mentioned at the source link i posted there.16:22
arunpyasiDArqueBishop, yeah..16:23
pynkiarunpyasi, client1 is running the openvpn server?16:23
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arunpyasipynki, no, server/client2 has openvpn server16:23
arunpyasiclient1 has openvpn client16:23
bonsaitreescottjl, thanks16:23
scottjlbonsaitree: np. i doubt someone hacked you, but if they did a reinstall would fix anything they did.16:24
bonsaitreescottjl, I placed that as a possible reason, although i doubt too, since i did a fresh install and the problem did not fix16:25
scottjlthen it's the wifi/configuration16:25
pynkiarunpyasi, perhaps this helps: https://serverfault.com/questions/662500/openvpn-access-to-lan-behind-client-and-vice-versa16:25
blkadderarunpyasi And can you reach client 1 from client 2 at present?16:25
arunpyasiblkadder, yes, I can16:26
arunpyasipynki, this is what I ran for iptable sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.100 --dport 554 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.8.0.2:55416:26
scottjlbonsaitree: some times out of the box configurations aren't the best and can use a little tweaking/love for best performance.16:27
bonsaitreescottjl, yup, brb rebooting16:27
blkadderarunpyasi Then you should just need a RTSP client as pynki suggested that is pointed at client 1's IP port (assuming there isn't any authentication necessary)16:27
blkadder...IP and port...16:27
arunpyasiblkadder, pynki there is no auth but I get error.16:28
arunpyasithat its not found16:28
arunpyasiI believe the port 554 is not available at 10.8.0.2:55416:28
pynkican you reach the webpage of the camera?16:28
blkadderSo what are you doing to establish that you can see client 1 from client 2?16:28
arunpyasipynki, there is no webpage of the cam16:29
pynkiarunpyasi, what kind of webcam is it?16:29
DArqueBishoparunpyasi: are you sure the firewall isn't blocking the port?16:29
arunpyasiblkadder, I had pinged eachother and started a webserver on client1 and it was accessible on client 216:29
pynkiarunpyasi, run "nmap 10.8.0.2"16:29
blkadderarunpyasi On client 1 netstat -a16:29
blkadderOr that. :-)16:29
arunpyasipynki, its yoosee webcam, rtsp on client1 is working fine16:29
arunpyasiDArqueBishop, firewall is off.16:30
DArqueBishoparunpyasi: is client2 the actual server or another client? If the latter, do you have client-to-client in the server's OpenVPN config?16:30
pynkiarrrr, one of these newschool " we have an app" kind of cams :/16:31
arunpyasiDArqueBishop, client2 is OPENVPN server16:31
DArqueBishopWait.16:31
arunpyasihttp://dpaste.com/3WNGQ9E , it was run in the server16:31
pynkiarunpyasi, maybe opening the ports for UDP too might help16:31
arunpyasipynki, hmm ok, let me try.16:32
DArqueBishoparunpyasi: first, don't call it "client2", then. Call it "server". Calling it "client2" makes it confusing.16:32
arunpyasiDArqueBishop, ok :P16:32
DArqueBishoparunpyasi: second, the OpenVPN server should be 10.8.0.1.16:32
arunpyasiDArqueBishop, yes, its 10.8.0.116:32
bonsaitreescottc_, Lol, the options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8 fixed it.16:33
bonsaitreescottjl, Lol, the options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8 fixed it.16:33
blkadderarunpyasi Can you run netstat -a on client 1 and post output?16:33
pynkibonsaitree, well, well, well16:33
pynkibonsaitree, that means disabled or enabled?16:34
pynkithe 816:34
bonsaitreepynki:I have no clue, with =1 it won't work properly, with =8 it will. Logic not found16:35
arunpyasiblkadder, http://dpaste.com/14MWSB016:37
lrojashi all, i installed the oracle-java8-installer from the ppa, but i cannot find the jdk, just the jre... all documentation i have seen implies that the jdk gets installed as well16:38
pynkibonsaitree, knowing that google gives that answer too :D http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/322-ubuntu-trusty-intel-centrino-6235-slow-freeze gives us the answer what the 8 means16:38
lrojasany idea what's going on?16:38
pynkibonsaitree, parm: 11n_disable:disable 11n functionality, bitmap: 1: full, 2: disable agg TX, 4: disable agg RX, 8 enable agg TX (uint)16:38
blkadderarunpyasi I don't see anything indicating you are sharing the camera from that system?16:38
arunpyasiblkadder, so, how do I do that ?16:39
blkadderYou are however connecting to the rtsp port on 192.168.1.10016:39
arunpyasiblkadder, yes, I am16:39
bonsaitreepynki:What is agg TX?16:39
arunpyasiblkadder, I tried prerouting and postrouting..16:40
blkadderWhat is 192.168.1.100? Is that the camera?16:40
johnfgIs there an equivalent of the yum provides "whatever" for apt?16:40
pynkibonsaitree, https://routerguide.net/optimize-ampdu-aggregation-on-or-off-a-mpdu/16:41
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arunpyasiblkadder, yes it is16:42
blkadderarunpyasi Ok.16:42
xjkx1How do I run commands when ubuntu starts, is it editting rc.local?16:42
blkadderThen you need to share 192.168.1.x network over the VPN16:43
pynkixjkx1, thats an option16:43
blkadderAssuming that your server isn't also on 192.168.1.x network on the other side, otherwise you will have a problem.16:43
xjkx1pynki: what would be the best option :>16:43
blkadders/share/route/16:44
pynkixjkx1, that totally depends what you want to do16:44
scottjlbonsaitree: congrats.16:44
Delvienbonsaitree: did you ever figure that out? I was talking with you yesterday about something, remind me16:45
arunpyasiblkadder, is it ? Can't I just route the IP cam on a port of client1 ?16:45
pynkixjkx1, this would be another option https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/startup-applications.html16:45
bonsaitreeDelvien:scottjl nailed it, but thanks to all who tried to help, i really appreciate :)16:46
Delvienbonsaitree: you had the problem with the wifi speed, right?16:46
bonsaitreeDelvien:Yes16:46
xjkx1pynki: thank you16:46
arunpyasiblkadder, cause I thought if I allow 192.168.1.x network, I may get into trouble with IP conflicts16:46
Delvienbonsaitree: what was the solution?16:46
blkadderarunpyasi If your server is on 192.168.1.x you will have a problem.16:46
scottjlDelvien: module options16:46
arunpyasiblkadder, no, its not on that16:47
scottjlDefaults sucked.16:47
Delvienscottjl: rfkill ?16:47
bonsaitreeDelvien, a simple line 'options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8' in the iwlwifi.conf16:47
arunpyasiblkadder, its on 192.168.10.x16:47
blkadderarunpyasi Then you should be fine.16:47
Delvienbonsaitree: nice.16:47
jerichowasahoaxWhat's the recommended tool for cleaning /var/cache/apt/archives?16:47
blkadderassuming /2416:47
arunpyasiblkadder, so, how would I fix the thing ?16:47
scottjlbonsaitree: remember that if you ever reinstall!16:48
bonsaitreescottjl:I will write it down with pen and white paper now hahaha :)16:48
blkadderarunpyasi, You need to route 192.168.1.x over the VPN16:48
geniijerichowasahoax: sudo apt-get clean16:48
NitrogenHi. How can I start chromium as another user via terminal?16:48
jerichowasahoaxgenii: thank you16:49
blkadderarunpyasi I am a little fuzzy on the exact syntax so unless someone here knows it's really a question for #openvpn16:49
arunpyasiblkadder, I may have multiple 192.168.1.x networks16:49
arunpyasiyeah, join there :P blkadder16:49
pynkisu username chromium-browser, Nitrogen16:50
pynkisu username -c chromium-browser, Nitrogen16:50
NitrogenNeither worked =(16:51
Nitrogenpynki16:51
NitrogenWhere can I paste Error messages?16:52
jerichowasahoaxNitrogen: http://paste.pound-python.org16:52
jerichowasahoaxNitrogen: Any pastebin service will work, really, that was just what I had off the top of my head16:52
Nitrogenhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24421257/16:52
NitrogenThanks jerichowasahoax16:53
jerichowasahoaxdoes it do that if you try to start chromium as your current user16:53
qisUbuntu 14.04 keeps reenabling the WiFi interface after a reboot. Worse, it keeps enabling the hotspot functionality. Any idea how to fix it without blacklisting the device? Something that a customer without much experience can reverse?16:53
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pynkiqis, /etc/network/interfaces has setup for the wifi device in it?16:54
qispynki: No, it was configured using the UI.16:55
qis /etc/network/interfaces has only "lo" entries.16:56
Nitrogenjerichowasahoax no. Works perfectly fine16:57
pynkiqis, sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager network-manager-* , sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager  .... might help16:57
pynkiqis, just defualt ne nm config on a quick way...16:57
qispynki: Can I simply remove network-manager, do a "apt-get autoremove" and reinstall it? To be sure that everything is reinstalled as it was but without configuration.16:58
adrian_1908hello, I wanted to try 17.04 (Xubuntu) but booting from the USB stick, i get the following error early on: `[5.271295] BERT: Can't request iomem region <…>` displayed in a low-res screen mode with lots of artifacts. I tried searching but it doesn't seem common. Any suggestions?16:58
qispynki: And I somehow doubt that it will remove the user configuration.16:58
qispynki: How do I "default the network manager config"?16:58
qisrm -rf ~/.local?16:58
pynkiqis, remove the config and reinstall it with the default config16:59
qispynki: Any idea where the config is or how to find it?16:59
pynkiqis, no idea. its the first thing i remove from ubuntu after installing it...17:00
xokhello all...17:00
pynkiqis, sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager network-manager-* will remopve the old config files17:00
johnfgWhat's gvim or vim improved called for ubuntu?17:00
xokI have working ubuntu system, want to generate the full preseed.cfg file to clone the installation, including the partitioning...17:01
xokis this possible at all?..17:01
Picijohnfg: the same?17:01
pynki!info vim-gnome johnfg17:01
ubottu'johnfg' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed, yakkety, yakkety-backports, yakkety-proposed, zesty, zesty-backports, zesty17:01
qispynki: Oh, I just discovered nmcli con delete17:01
pynki!info vim-gnome | johnfg17:01
ubottujohnfg: vim-gnome (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor (dummy package). In component main, is extra. Version 2:8.0.0095-1ubuntu3 (zesty), package size 8 kB, installed size 120 kB17:01
johnfgpynki: Thanks!17:02
adrian_1908My error is similar to the first line in this (found on the web): https://i.imgur.com/ZS5RZa0.jpg   except i can't see beyond the first line because of the lowres mode my screen is in at that stage.17:02
qisjohnfg: apt-cache search vim|grep ^vim17:02
johnfgJust started a unity terminal for the first time.  Is there a way to open another tab?17:02
johnfgqis: That too!  Thanks!17:02
pavlosjohnfg: click on the top menu, File, new tab or new window17:03
qispynki: Yep, deleting all configurations except eth0 was enough. Probably safer, than reinstalling nm.17:04
pynkiqis: there is nothing more safe than deinstalling nm ;)17:04
xokanybody know preseed.cfg installations?..17:04
molddhi all! I need a little help with a server im trying to make. unfortunately the server isn't connected to the internet, so I cant use pastebin. I think the problem im having is probably simple. its about missing dependenceis17:05
pynkixok: perhaps kickstart can export that17:05
johnfgpavlos: I would have thought that, but there's no menu, and not offered by right-clicking on it.  All I have is, top left, x - and a square to maximize.17:05
ioriamoldd, like what ?17:05
xokpynki: what's that?..17:06
pynki!info system-config-kickstart | xok17:06
ubottuxok: system-config-kickstart (source: system-config-kickstart): graphical tool for creating Kickstart files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.20-0ubuntu25 (zesty), package size 370 kB, installed size 1612 kB17:06
xokpynki: how about console application?..17:06
xokI don't have a GUI...17:06
molddioria, whenever I run apt-get install/update/etc, I'm getting an error with "dovecote-core" missing dependencies.17:07
qispynki: Hehe, I agree but the customer might want to keep it. No way to ask now.17:07
pavlosjohnfg: which ubuntu 16.04 or 17.0417:07
pynkixok: creating it by hand might be faster that searching the net. don't thinbk there will eb an easy answer to that question17:08
ioriamoldd, dovecot is a pop/imap software, does not stop you from connecting the internet ....17:08
ioriamoldd, maybe is a package manager issue17:08
pynkimoldd, perhaps not all neccessary repos int he apt config17:09
YankDownUndermoldd: If the server is NOT connected to the net, why are you running "update"?17:09
molddioria, sorry - fairly new. the server is cli and I didn't think i'd be able to use a pastepin17:09
ioriamoldd, you can use pastebinit as well17:09
ioriamoldd,  if you can ping a website like www.google.com, it's not a network issue ...17:10
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ioriamoldd,  probably dovecot hasn't been installed correctly .... how did you install it ? via cli or in the install process ?17:11
molddioria, oh wow thank you I had no idea. Sincerely thank you.17:12
ioriamoldd,  ok17:12
arunpyasiblkadder, pynki there is no response on #openvpn and I think its a thing with iptables or some routing stuff17:13
johnfgLooks like it's vim-gtk2 that's vim improved.  There is no gvim, or vim-gnome (of course if I had a gnome desktop, maybe).17:13
ioria!info vim-gnome trusty17:14
ubottuvim-gnome (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GNOME2 GUI. In component main, is extra. Version 2:7.4.052-1ubuntu3.1 (trusty), package size 982 kB, installed size 2441 kB17:14
ioria!info vim-gnome xenial17:14
ubottuvim-gnome (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GNOME2 GUI. In component main, is extra. Version 2:7.4.1689-3ubuntu1.2 (xenial), package size 1253 kB, installed size 3111 kB17:14
molddioria, Sorry I was thanking you for telling me about the pastebinit. Yes I think it dovecot installed correctly. I updated through 2 versions of ubuntu(on 16.04 lts now) and I think thats where the hang up is. Its missing dependencies but I can't quite figure out how to get the dependencies I need17:14
molddjesus *dovecot installed incorrectly.17:15
pavlosjohnfg: you can place the menu bar either on the very top menu bar (where the clock, network, etc.) is or on the top of the terminal window. See system settings, appearance, behavior17:15
blkadderarunpyasi Perhaps this might help: https://www.void.gr/kargig/blog/2010/03/25/using-openvpn-to-route-a-specific-subnet-to-the-vpn/17:15
ioriamoldd,  can you install pastebinit ?17:15
YankDownUndermoldd: Is dovecot currently being used in production (live), or are you just setting it up?17:16
blkadderarunpyasi At this point I'd just be googling. :-)17:16
ioriamoldd,  and paste dpkg -l | grep dovecot ?17:16
arunpyasiblkadder, yeah, I googled but didn't found much so I am on IRC.17:16
arunpyasiblkadder, someone pro on iptables would be great17:16
blkadderarunpyasi Where does iptables fit in to this?>17:17
blkadderDon't complicate your life.17:17
awesomess3How do I install apache2 without it auto-starting after install? (I know I could just go `sudo apt-get install apache2 && sudo apache2ctl stop` but is there any easier way through apt-get? I would turn off the deb-package triggers, but I'm 94% sure not all of them are to auto-turn-on the apache2 server.17:17
sliptteesducasse: Done... i can copy sda to new harddisk. ddrescue r0x. Thanks you! :-)17:17
awesomess3)17:17
johnfgpavlos: it's 17.04, I just wasn't used to where unity had the menu.  Thanks!17:17
arunpyasiblkadder, what I was thinking is, routing/forwarding 192.168.1.100:554 to client1:554 .17:17
blkadderarunpyasi Routing specific subnets seems to be well documented17:17
blkadderExcept that isn't how things are.17:18
arunpyasiblkadder, I will have multiple clients with 192.168.1.x17:18
blkadderYour IP camera isn't on client 117:18
arunpyasiblkadder, so, that may bring a conflict17:18
molddioria, when I run sudo apt-get install pastebinit, after I hit [Y] to install, it says "Setting up dovecot-core"17:18
arunpyasiblkadder, its on client117:18
blkadderIt has its own IP address?17:18
arunpyasiblkadder, I yes.17:18
blkadderSo it is separate from client117:18
ioriamoldd,  so apt is broken17:19
blkadderclient1 isn't exposing it17:19
blkadderThat's what we verified with netstat17:19
arunpyasiblkadder, IP cam has 192.168.1.100 and client1 is 192.168.1.10117:19
arunpyasiyes, exactly blkadder17:19
sliptteeswait ubuntu gnome 8.04 LTS :-)17:19
slipttees18.04 LTS :-)17:19
blkadderSo pointing to client1:554 is pointless17:19
ioriamoldd,  what ubuntu is that ? 16.04 ?17:19
johnfgioria: I almost missed your ubottu.  Is that not showing up in my search either because I'm running 17.04 or unity?17:19
YankDownUndermoldd: Can you run: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update ==> see what that says?17:19
molddioria, yes something must be really off. 16.04 lts17:19
arunpyasiblkadder, what I need is 10.8.0.2:554 needs to be accessible.17:19
arunpyasiblkadder, why pointless ?17:20
blkadderYou;d want to point to 192.168.1.100:55417:20
ioria!info vim-gnome zesty | johnfg17:20
ubottujohnfg: vim-gnome (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor (dummy package). In component main, is extra. Version 2:8.0.0095-1ubuntu3 (zesty), package size 8 kB, installed size 120 kB17:20
blkadderor 545 or whatever port rtsp is on...17:20
blkadderbecause there is nothing listening on client117:20
arunpyasiblkadder, hmm let me send you the commands I entered17:20
ioriamoldd,  how did you install dovecot ?  in the install process among  the other services?17:21
ubuntu-mateHello. noob here. Does anybody knows how to fix wrong time when switching on windows from ubuntu?17:21
ubuntu-mateI read a guide where I have to change from UTC to Local Time, but I dont see the option17:21
sliptteesubuntu-mate: talk!17:21
ubuntu-mateslipttees, ?17:22
ioriamoldd,   dpkg -l | grep dovecot | nc termbin.com 999917:22
arunpyasiblkadder, http://dpaste.com/0499T1Z and yes the second is also with sudo, 10.8.0.2 is the client1's IP it got from VPN server.17:23
molddYanksDownUnder, I ran that and got back "Setting up dovecot[1:2.2.22-1ubuntu2.4]. After that is "E: subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)17:23
ioriamoldd,  that command will give you an url, that you can paste here17:24
ubuntu-mateDoes anybody know how to fix the wrong time issue when dual booting?17:24
blkadderarunpyasi That's not going to work.17:24
YankDownUndermoldd: Ok...how's about: sudo dpkg --reconfigure dovecot-core17:24
arunpyasiblkadder, ok, what will I need to make changes as ?17:25
pavlosubuntu-mate: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata17:26
blkadderarunpyasi Get rid of the iptables rules. Use openvpn to route traffic.17:28
arunpyasiblkadder, ok, how do I do that ?17:28
arunpyasiblkadder, you mean to open/allow NAT ?17:28
molddioria, the url I got was http:termbin.com/ppgk17:28
ioriamoldd,  sudo apt purge dovecot-imapd  dovecot-pop3d17:30
ubuntu-matethanks17:30
molddYankDownUnder, I'm getting the message/error "Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or 'more'!17:30
johnfgI just looked at the help for terminal but didn't see how to navigate between tabs from the keyboard.17:31
dan01Hi, my friend screw up his partition table, he deleted the EFI partition, somehow he can still boot, he's prompted with a "Invalid parition table!" message, but he can press enter and he's logged in. Any idea how to fix this? here's a photo of his partitioning: https://imagebin.ca/v/3JkEE7axzZmC17:32
YankDownUndermoldd: As per what ioria said, just purge the packages (or remove them) -> then do an update...or TRY...17:32
ioriajohnfg,  ctrl + Pageup (Pagedown)17:32
ioriamoldd,  what repository are you using ?17:33
s3qrkhey guys, I am with ubuntu gnome, I want to remove the gnome environment and switch to xubuntu, can anyone point me the packages I have to remove?17:34
molddioria/yank - really bizarre, I did apt purge just now and it said was removeing the packages, after a couple of seconds it went back to "Setting up dovecot" and returned the E: subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned error (1)17:34
ioriamoldd,  what repository are you using ?17:35
Southern_Gentlems3qrk, why remove anything?17:35
ioriamoldd,  i mean ... your sources.list points to what ?17:35
s3qrkSouthern_Gentlem: I don't want to have my disk full17:35
Southern_Gentlems3qrk, are you that tight on disk space?17:36
s3qrkSouthern_Gentlem: I have 27gb available17:36
Southern_Gentlembackup your data and reinstall with the xfce spin in that case17:36
ioriamoldd,  if you don't understand what i'am saying , please ask17:37
molddioria, sorry my sources are xenial main, universe, multiverse - archive.ubuntu.com17:37
ioriamoldd, yes, but local ? your country or what ?17:37
s3qrkSouthern_Gentlem: ok, thanks17:37
ioriamoldd, ah, ok17:37
ioriamoldd,  sudo dpkg -P  dovecot-imapd  dovecot-pop3d17:38
johnfginteresting...slapd (openldap) has got my base DIT right, even though /etc/ldap/ldap.conf is not configured.17:39
molddioria, dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove dovecot-imapd which isn't installed - the same line repeats for dovecot-pop3d17:41
ioriamoldd,   dpkg -l | grep dovecot | nc termbin.com 9999    again17:41
Kobazwhat's the ubuntu equivalent of /etc/rc.local17:44
ioria/etc/rc.local17:45
Kobazso just make the file?17:46
pavlosKobaz: systemctl status rc-local.service ... start it if you have to17:46
Kobazls: cannot access '/etc/rc.local': No such file or directory17:46
ioriaKobaz, why ? you don't have it ?17:46
Kobaz17.04 installer didn't create that17:46
ioria!info initscripts17:47
ubottuPackage initscripts does not exist in zesty17:47
ioriaKobaz, you're right17:47
Kobazyeap17:48
molddioria, sorry for delay http://termbin.com/ab4e17:48
Kobazand there is no /etc/init.d/rc.local17:48
ioriamoldd,  sudo dpkg -P  dovecot-core17:48
molddioria, alrighty I ran that and dovecot-core appears to be gone.17:50
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ioriamoldd,  sudo apt update17:50
ioriaKobaz, systemd era17:51
Kobazyeah, systemd :(17:51
Kobazmy usual first step is apt-get remove systemd17:52
iorialol17:52
molddioria, I'm getting "All packages are up to date" now!17:52
Kobazyou can pry my sysvinit from my feisty claws17:52
ioriamoldd,  sudo apt install pastebinit17:52
ioriaKobaz, ^_^17:53
molddioria, its installed now.17:53
blkadderarunpyasi, Remove the iptables rules you are using to try to route traffic. On your vpn server you need to configure openvpn to route traffic destined for 192.168.1.X over the vpn.17:53
scottjlKobaz: if you don't like systemd just wait a few years and someone will invent something new/better and we'll have 4 different ways to control processes!17:53
ioriamoldd,  ok, sudo apt full-upgrade   (you already are)17:54
Kobaznew != (always) better17:54
blkadderThis is an example of how to do so: https://www.void.gr/kargig/blog/2010/03/25/using-openvpn-to-route-a-specific-subnet-to-the-vpn/17:54
scottjloh i know.17:54
molddioria, alright I got "0 updated, 0 installed" etc17:55
ioriamoldd,  ok, sudo apt install dovecot-imapd dovecot-pop3d17:55
arunpyasiblkadder, so instead of  route 100.200.100.0 255.255.255.0 , I need to do  route 192.168.1.100 255.255.255.017:56
arunpyasi??17:56
Kobazioria:  speaking of systemd. so, rc-local.service is showing as inactive(dead)... anything special to enable it?17:56
ioriaKobaz,  i don't want to bork your system ... sy17:56
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Kobazit'll be plenty borked when i'm through with it17:56
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blkadderarunpyasi, No route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.017:57
blkadderYou are routing the subnet traffic.17:57
Kobazsystemctl enable rc-local17:57
Kobaznope, didn't like that17:57
molddioria, alright it appears dovecot-core, -imapd, and -pop3d are now installed17:58
ioriamoldd,  you should be good17:58
molddioria, honestly thank you so much! I sincerely appreciate it! You have been a big help and I learned a lot. Thank you!17:59
shurtugalHow do you purge bluetooth on UbuntuMATE17.0417:59
ioriamoldd,  no problem17:59
Kobazcool17:59
Kobazyay, it works17:59
arunpyasiblkadder, but that will make the whole 192.168.1.0 network accessible to the server right !17:59
blkadderYes.17:59
Kobazthere was a missing [Install] section in /etc/systemd/system/rc-local.service17:59
arunpyasiblkadder, thats insecure..18:00
arunpyasiblkadder, just need the cam and the PC to go through.18:00
blkadderThen route 192.168.1.100 255.255.255.25518:00
blkadderand route 192.168.1.1.101 255.255.255.25518:00
MarioMeyHi, there.18:01
arunpyasiblkadder, hmm ok, let me try that one.18:01
karkoonHi. Do you remember how long did it usually take for AMD to release new amdgpu pro drivers after new ubuntu versions?18:02
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MarioMeyI have an external HDD with ntfs and ext4 partitions. I have some movies in ntfs... but, after copying them from my hdd to this external one, the disk was unmounted and some error message appeared. No, I realize that there were some files that weren't copied, other files with 0 bytes... and I have a file that the data inside doesn't correspond with the name and location. This file... can't be deleted. I want to check and repear this disk. I verified it with g18:05
MarioMey*while the files were copied, the disk was unmounted.18:05
MarioMeyWhat command should I use to repair this partition?18:06
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MarioMeyCaja says "file or folder doesn't exist".18:07
YankDownUnderMarioMey: Is it an ext4 partition or an NTFS partition?18:09
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scottjlMarioMey: fsck can fix ext4 partitions, ntfsfix can fix ntfs partitions.18:16
scottjlyou may need to install ntfs-3g for ntfsfix18:17
MarioMeyYankDownUnder: the disk has both. I want to repair the NTFS one.18:20
MarioMeyscottjl: I already did it. But the file is still there.18:20
oerheks!artful18:21
ubottuUbuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) will be the 27th release of Ubuntu.  It is due to be released in October 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+118:21
MarioMeyWait...18:21
scottjlMarioMey: does it have some sort of special character in the filename / pathname? maybe try some wildcards.18:21
MarioMeyscottjl, YankDownUnder: in terminal, I do "ls" and all the files that I thought were deleted... are there. And this file that can't be deleted... isn't. It's about Caja.18:22
MarioMeyActually, I have Ubuntu-Mate.18:22
scottjlis it mounted read only?18:23
scottjlyou might need to put it into an actual windows machine. i've had ntfs fs errors that linux just couldn't handle.18:23
MarioMeyNo, I can rename some file.18:23
YankDownUnderMarioMey: What you might want to do is to logout / login again - to refresh the desktop/system data (for Mate and Caja) -> see if that resolves anything...that being said, since this is an external HDD, you might also want to unmount and then remount it...18:23
MarioMeyI'll log out and in.18:24
johnfgnormally, when I'm in irssi, I use Alt-#, to go to whatever chat I want to go to.18:25
johnfgBut in this terminal, it's doing something with its menu when I push Alt.18:26
MarioMeyI did it... the file is there, the other files aren't (they don't appear also with "ls")... and the file still can't be deleted.18:28
scottjlcan you plug it into a real windows machine?18:28
YankDownUnderMarioMey: Do the repair on that partition again...18:28
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rioronhlw all18:29
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MarioMeyYankDownUnder: again, nothing. Look at this screenshot: http://pasteall.org/pic/index.php?id=11480718:30
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MarioMeyscott... no, mine has only Ubuntu partitions...18:31
MarioMeyAnd my mother's too.18:31
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aotaointbinreading changelog for 4.10.11 now, looks like i'll be rebooting again as soon as it's into arch...18:31
MarioMeyI have a Windows 7 in Virtual Box... would it work?18:31
scottjlif you can do a passthru on the partition, it should.18:31
MarioMeyAnd try to delete from there...?18:31
YankDownUnderMarioMey: You shouldn't be IN the directory ON the partition when you're doing a repair on it...um...you *did* know that, right?18:31
MarioMeyYankDownUnder: yes, I also unmount it.18:32
MarioMey*unmounted18:32
scottjlMarioMey: what are you using to try and repair the ntfs partition?18:33
MarioMeyscottjl: I tried with gparted and ntfsfix.18:34
MarioMey(gparted: verify)18:34
scottjlyeah when ntfsfix didn't work for me a real windows box did. :-(18:35
aotaointbinnm, 4.10.11 has no gvt stuff, yay.18:35
MarioMeyOh.18:35
YankDownUnderMarioMey: What options are you using when you're running "ntfsfix"?18:37
MarioMeysudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb218:37
YankDownUnderMarioMey: Comprendo. Try: sudo ntfsfix -fvbd18:38
YankDownUnderMarioMey: Or, rather: sudo ntfsfix -fvbd /dev/sdb218:39
randymarsh9hello18:39
MarioMeyYankDownUnder: ntfs doesn't accept that flag.18:39
MarioMey(or option)18:39
randymarsh9anyone know how do i run a sudo command when logged in with a user WITHOUT root privileges?18:39
YankDownUnderMarioMey: Then: sudo ntfsfix -bd /dev/sdb218:40
MarioMeyOk.18:40
geniirandymarsh9: su <username-with-sudo-rights>18:40
MarioMeyYankDownUnder: did it... and nothing. The same.18:40
randymarsh9genii: ty18:41
MarioMeyI run W7 on VB... but I can't find the disk.18:41
MarioMeyI should configure it... ?18:41
YankDownUnderMarioMey: Si. Pues, time to use "Windows"...18:41
jotauverhi18:41
Goriandid I get pinged?18:42
MarioMeyOk... I understand.18:42
MarioMeyThanks YankDownUnder, scottjl.18:42
MarioMeyI would like to use "scandisk d:"... ;)18:42
jotauverI need to recursively compare two folders  full of photos (different folder structures), the photos can have different name... some idea? :)18:43
YankDownUnderMarioMey: In order for Virtualbox to SEE or recognise the external drive, you're going to have to setup the VM specifically for "passthrough", verdad.18:43
MarioMeyWhat would "passthrough" be in spanish...?18:43
MarioMeyUSB or Almacenamiento? or none of those?18:44
scottjli don't use virtualbox sorry. no idea.18:45
YankDownUnderMarioMey: En Espanol? Hmm...not sure...however, you can look through the forums on the Virtualbox website...very informational...18:45
randymarsh9thank god for irc18:46
MarioMeyI have that partition for compatibility with (Windows) friends... and I was thinking in convert ext4 in NTFS.... but now I'm doubting....18:46
YankDownUnderMarioMey: What you SHOULD do is to use VFAT partitions to share stuff around...NTFS is always problematic...at best...18:47
MarioMeyOoohhh... FAT32?18:47
YankDownUnderMarioMey: Si.18:47
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MarioMeyThanks18:47
MarioMeyCan I convert it... without backuping all the data inside?18:48
YankDownUnderMarioMey: That way you can share it with Windows, Mac, linux, whatever.18:48
YankDownUnderMarioMey: No...you'd have to back up the data, blow out the partition, to be safe...and then create a vfat partition...then copy the data back...18:48
MarioMey"I think I can handle it" (I heard it today in a ITCrowd Episode... XD).18:49
MarioMeyI'll do it. I have space in ext4 partition.18:49
YankDownUnderMarioMey: There ya go - issue resolved, easy peasey.18:50
MarioMeyThanks, YankDownUnder.18:50
MarioMey(copying 180GB... 3hs)18:50
MarioMeyBye.18:51
YankDownUnderMarioMey: De nada18:51
AzeroMorning.18:57
headrefhi18:57
headrefhow do i get a GUI desktop on tty1 ? in my new account?18:58
headrefI don't like the tty18:58
headrefcan i get two desktops in two different ttys?18:58
headrefIs it possible ?18:58
YankDownUnderheadref: It *is* possible, but in most instances, tty7 and tty8 are for grahical use...so it would take a bit of mucking about...18:59
headrefYankDownUnder: ok, I am ready to muck18:59
raisinanyone familiar with xml minidom library in python ?18:59
headrefBecause I want to work on multiple accounts, using a Graphical interface, so how do i do that19:00
YankDownUnderheadref: I'd suggest digging through the Ubuntu forums and wikis.19:00
raisinit takes so much times to get an answer from a forum ...19:01
geniiheadref: Look up multiseat19:01
headrefgenii: multiseat?19:01
headrefok19:01
geniiYes19:01
YankDownUnder"Multiseat" is the term for using several graphical logins on a single machine.19:01
geniiYankDownUnder: Yes, normally so you can have several users all using one machine. But it can also be just one user with many X sessions19:02
grantwuSo I upgraded to 17.04 and now the system locks up after I login19:03
grantwuOr did once19:03
YankDownUndergenii: ...been there done that...(long long long ago...even before the Ubuntu days) - prefer to not go down that road nowadays.19:03
raisinwhy don't you get back to 16.4 ?19:04
ioriagrantwu, can you login in console ? ctrl+alt+f119:05
headrefioria: of course19:06
headrefI think I need some .dot files for GUI19:06
ioriaheadref, was for grantwu19:06
Bashing-omgrantwu: Proprietary graphic's driver ? And did you re-install the driver on 17.04 ?19:06
grantwuWell, it works now after a hard power off19:07
grantwuintel graphics, haven't ever touched anything to do with drivers19:07
grantwu¯\_(ツ)_/¯ incidentally, is it routine to get "ubuntu 17.04 has encountered an internal error" about once a day?19:08
ioriagrantwu, fresh install or and upgrade from 16.10 ?19:08
grantwuupgrade from 16.1019:08
ioriagrantwu, can you paste ls /var/crash19:08
grantwu_usr_bin_gnome-shell.1000.crash19:09
jrewingHey all. I'm brand new with configuring networks and even more noob when it comes to configuring a pxe server. I've followed guides and some things do not work ... tex.cp /usr/lib/syslinux/pxelinux.0 /tftpboot....cp/usr/lib/syslinux/vesamenu.c32 /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg .. ..cp /usr/lib/syslinux/pxechain.com /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg. Now I ask you if there is any user friendly desktop variant on programs that make it easier to install and configure this? Then I19:10
jrewinghave installed Ubuntu 17.04 on a VM-ware, which I think is getting worse? Is there any kind soul that can help me?19:10
grantwuioria: Do you want the contents of that file?19:10
ioriagrantwu, nope,  remove that file, and see if it pops up again19:11
grantwuUh... you're essentially telling me to ignore the issue, and come back if it re-occurs?19:11
ioriagrantwu, nope19:12
ioriagrantwu, could be an old report due to the do-release-upgrade19:13
ioriajrewing, i don't think so ... but looking ...19:13
jrewingioria: ty19:13
ioriajrewing, btw i usually use this https://www.maketecheasier.com/configure-pxe-server-ubuntu/   or this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto19:14
jrewingty Im on it19:15
jrewing:)19:15
Pharaoh_Atemanyone know if dropping a new file in /etc/depmod.d/ can be done to completely override ubuntu.conf?19:17
ioriajrewing,  you can check this : (never used) http://www.vercot.com/~serva/default.html19:18
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feanorsalut19:19
feanorya quelqu'un?19:21
oerheks!fr | feanor english only please,19:23
ubottufeanor english only please,: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.19:23
jrewingwhen the command " sudo ifconfig " dont work, what shall I do to find my ip adress on my vm-ware/ubuntu?19:25
shurtugaldoes anyone know how to purge the bluetooth on ubuntuMATE 17.0419:25
selckinjrewing: ip a19:25
jrewingselckin: just ip a ?19:25
raisinip addr show19:25
jheizerI am trying to put a NVMe SSD into a ubuntu server.  The drive shows up fine but on insertion all network access goes dead.  Both and onboard and an intel nic.  They are connected, have link confirmed in ethtool.  Just can't ping or anything.  On cable remove/insert a few packets flow according to ifconfig, but that's it.  Any thoughts?19:25
selckinjrewing: yes19:25
jrewingOk I try19:25
ioriajrewing,  what you mean 'not working ' ?19:26
jrewingty19:26
selckinioria: ifconfig has been deprecated for 10 years, its usually not installed anymore19:26
jheizerno kern of dmesg errors at all19:26
jrewingioria: ifconfig dont work19:26
selckinioria: but i agree he should give what error he gets19:27
ioriajrewing,  so, command not found ?19:27
jrewingcommand not found19:27
ioriaok19:27
jrewingip a works fine..19:28
jrewingtnks19:28
ioriajrewing, 17.04 i guess ...19:28
jrewingyupp19:28
geniiIf you're set on having ifconfig, it's in net-tools19:28
genii( as far as Yakkety19:28
shurtugalI'm new to this system, but does anyone know how to purge the bluetooth on ubuntuMATE 17.0419:28
jrewingI dint get any smarter of the info in ip a . hahaha19:29
ioriajrewing, ifconfig did a lot of things, better check 'man ip'19:29
jrewingok19:30
feanorHi19:31
jrewingI give up... this is totaly to hard for my brain19:31
jrewingthanks for the help anyway19:34
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ohjqany website admin here? I found a bug on the configuration of the website19:37
geniiohjq: #canonical-sysadmin19:38
ohjqgenii: thanks19:38
geniiohjq: Read the topic in there first, might be something they are aware of19:38
jvelasquezHi. My system is starting X on boot, I don't want X until I start it. Yet I see no Xdm or other DM in /etc/rc2.d.   How else could X be starting on Boot?19:48
jvelasquezbtw, `lsb -r`==14.0419:49
ioriajvelasquez, you are on trusty and want to start in text mode ?19:50
jvelasquezioria, yes please.19:50
ioriajvelasquez,  sudo nano /etc/default/grub and replace 'quite splash' with 'text'  and run sudo update-grub19:51
ioria*quiet19:51
jvelasquezioria, heh. ok. Could I please get an explanation as to how some of the last steps of Upstart, are controlled by grub options.  There must be stuff in the middle, as to allow which Xdm, or Lightdm, or Kdm, or Gdm to start,  so where's the scripts in the middle live?19:53
jvelasquezand shouldn't I be able to remove that script in the middle?19:53
ioriajvelasquez,  lightdm , yes19:53
ioriajvelasquez,  by default the X server is managed by lightdm19:54
jvelasquezioria, but it's disabled.  `update-rc.d lightdm disable`19:56
ioriajvelasquez,  if you see at boot, it's not disabled19:56
jvelasquezwait, let me try a somethuing19:56
ioriajvelasquez,  you probably need an .override19:58
jotauverI need to recursively compare two folders  full of photos (different folder structures), the photos can have different name... some idea? :)19:58
naccjotauver: what does "compare" mean then?19:58
ioriajvelasquez,  echo  "manual" | sudo tee -a /etc/init/lightdm.override19:58
naccjotauver: you want to find photos in one that are not in the other?19:58
jotauveryes!!19:58
raisinvelasquez are you a ufc fan ?19:58
jotauvercould not have same name..19:59
jotauverI want to know what photos in folder A are (or aren't) in folder B20:00
naccjotauver: so take a step back, without thinking of how you'd implement it -- you need to identify somehow that two files are the same?20:00
jotauveryes, with the md5 i.e20:00
jvelasquezraisin, i used to train with BJ Pen and his brothers, and before that with Wally Carvalho, and then with Dr. Rebmon at Amador Jodu in Livermore, and also Nobu Uke in Hilo.  But not really.  Now I watch PBS20:01
naccjotauver: right, so you'd need to make a list of all files in A with their hashes, then a list of all files in B with their hashes20:02
raisinpmsl20:02
blkadderdiff?20:02
jotauverok, but the list of a md5sum have 2 columns, if I do a diff... can I diff the first column only?20:03
jvelasquezraisin, but there's no linked scripts for lightdm in /etc/rc*.d,  so which scripts are doing this?20:03
EriC^^jotauver: what are you trying to do?20:03
jvelasquezerr,  ioria I mean20:03
raisinthis is very interesting but i ve no idea20:04
jotauverEriC^^:  I need to recursively compare two folders full of photos (different folder structures), the photos can have different name...20:04
jvelasquezioria,  I'd just like to know how an override would work,  since there's no linked scripts for lightdm in /etc/rc*.d,  so which scripts are doing this?20:06
blkadderjotauver The same photo can have different names?20:06
jotauveryea20:06
blkadderoic20:06
jotauverI've to check the content with md5sum20:06
raisinhave you looked @  var/log/lightdm/x-0.log ?20:08
blkaddertil about md5deep20:09
EriC^^jotauver: you can use md5sum as nacc said and then use comm to compare the md5sums to see which are present in both or absent in another20:09
jotauvermmm I didn't know the comm command20:11
aotaointbinwhy does ufw hate me20:12
quadebai am new on Linux and i need help. I am runing Ubuntu 16.04 and wireless is not working.20:12
aotaointbinit says port 9000 ALLLOW Anywhere20:12
aotaointbini can hit it from localhost but nowhere else20:12
aotaointbins/L//20:13
Mathisenquadeba, maybe some details on your problem.. can you see networks at all ? is wifi card installed and so on20:13
EriC^^jotauver: after the md5sum, do "awk '{print $1}' file1 | sort -u > newfile1" so you get the first column and sorted, same for the 2nd file then do comm -12 file1 file2 to get files that are in common etc see "man comm" for other options20:13
jotauverjmmm interesting ok! thanks!!! :)20:14
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quadebasorry. i can scan avaible wifi's but for some reason i can not connect to them. it only worked once. i have no idea what i have done20:15
jvelasquezHow could I find out which Edition of ubuntu I have?  Desktop or Server?  lsb_release -a doesn't mention either20:15
Ben64jvelasquez: do you have a desktop20:16
blkadderuname -a perhaps?20:16
naccjvelasquez: they are the same 'edition', just different default packages installed20:16
* blkadder is guessing. :-)20:16
jvelasquezBen64, yea, but I'm inquiring as to a 2U in the other room20:16
raisinquadeba do you have a non wireless interface ?20:16
EriC^^jotauver: no problem :)20:16
raisinif so can you try to disable it ?20:16
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jvelasquezok. I'm just trying to find the Documentation so that I can disable a service from boot.20:17
Ben64jvelasquez: if you have a desktop - it's desktop. if you only have command line, you have server20:17
quadebalo        no wireless extensions.20:18
quadebaeth0      no wireless extensions.20:18
quadebawlp2s0    IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:off/any20:18
quadeba          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated20:18
quadeba          Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off20:18
quadeba          Power Management:off20:18
Mathisen!pastebin20:18
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:18
raisinquadeba, just do a ifconfig eth0 down20:18
raisinand see what it gives20:18
jvelasquezomg.20:19
jvelasquezSo I goto Ubuntu.com and find my official docs for my version, and I doesn't have crap for help, so I search for services, and it's searching for All Ads with tag service.20:20
tgm4883jvelasquez: what version of Ubuntu?20:20
jvelasquezI just want to disable a dang service.  I guess I have to apt-get --purge, just to disable it?20:20
jvelasqueztgm4883,  14.0420:20
Ben64jvelasquez: and what service20:21
quadebaifconfig eth0 down make my ethenet not to work...20:21
jvelasquezperhaps I need to get inside the initramfs ?20:21
Ben64...20:21
tgm4883jvelasquez: ok, so upstart then.    "echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/SERVICE.override"20:21
jvelasquezBen64,  the Display Manager, lightdm20:21
Ben64neat20:22
raisinquadeba it's ok now try to connect to the acces point20:22
jvelasqueztgm4883,  Could you help me find the documentation first?20:22
raisineth0 = ethernet link20:22
raisinwlan0 = wireless link20:22
quadebawith cable is fine..the problem is wireless20:22
raisini know20:23
tgm4883jvelasquez: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting20:23
raisinthat's why i asked you to disable the physical link20:23
Ben64raisin: that doesn't really make sense though20:23
raisinit does sometimes having both wireless and physical link can mess up your connection20:24
raisinif the routes are incorrect20:24
_adbhello, i've got a vm running 16.04.02 in xen (dom0 also running 16.04.02). issuing `shutdown -h 0` fails, saying "Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory".  any thoughts on how to resolve?20:25
raisintry to connect to your wireless access point now20:25
gredjokhow do I find out the path to mediainfo?20:25
jvelasqueztgm4883,  thank you.20:26
tgm4883jvelasquez: yw20:26
jvelasqueztgm4883,  I don't understand why the community hides this20:26
b-yeezigredjok, which mediainfo20:26
Ben64jvelasquez: it's not hidden20:27
b-yeezigredjok, for me, it's located in /usr/bin20:27
gredjokb-yeezi, 0.7.9120:27
tgm4883jvelasquez: well, we use systemd now for starters. Secondly, it's not hidden. It's in the upstart documentation20:27
jvelasqueztgm4883, ok. Please show me the path to get to it, starting from ubuntu.com.20:28
jvelasquezcause I've been clicking around the upstart.ubuntu.com page and couldn't find it.20:28
Ben64jvelasquez: starting from google.com ... "ubuntu 14.04 disable service" -> click first result, done20:29
tgm4883jvelasquez: that seems like a silly requirement20:29
jvelasquezwhen It could be put right into the header menu across the top.20:29
folfHi, does anyone know how to install git on ubuntu snappy core? I'm trying to see if I can push a git repo to it, running on a raspberry pi. There was a "gogs" snap at some point, but I can't find a git snap.20:29
jvelasqueztgm4883,  It's always been the most important requirement of all projects!20:29
jvelasqueztgm4883,  the link to the good docs are at the top!20:30
jvelasqueztgm4883, It's always among the first few things I check before choosing a tech20:30
tgm4883jvelasquez: I'm doubtful you'd find that on any distro's webpage20:30
jvelasquezdebian.org !20:30
jvelasquezgnu.org!20:30
jvelasquezwindriver.com!~20:31
Ben64i don't see "how to disable a service from starting on boot" on the top of debian.org20:31
jvelasquezBen64, but you can get there by reading along thru the menus20:31
tgm4883jvelasquez: I'd be happy to discuss this with your further in #ubuntu-discuss as it's off topic for this channel20:31
_adbresolved my issue by installing dbus package. apparently xen-create-image doesn't include that.20:31
jvelasquezis it off topic?20:31
tgm4883jvelasquez: it's not support anymore20:32
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grantwuLori20:34
grantwuOops20:34
raisindo you confirm that we can click on that link without being invaded by aliens ? http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting20:35
tgm4883raisin: stay on topic please20:37
raisin?20:38
raisinit's definitely ON topic since it's a link posted a few lines above with regards to velasquez issue20:39
raisin...20:39
oerheksbecause of the http and not https?20:39
raisinno because of the uri20:40
codenulHALP!20:41
codenulis there a way to fix broken NO_PUBKEY errors?20:42
raisinno20:42
Ben64!details | codenul20:42
ubottucodenul: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.20:42
codenulfir software sources20:42
blkaddercodenul Get the key?20:42
codenulwhen i run apt-get update20:42
k1lcodenul: put the errors into paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here20:43
oerhekssudo apt-key update20:43
oerheks* with the option --keyring20:43
codenulhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24422661/20:43
codenulsame result oerheks20:44
codenulone sec, adding option20:44
codenulyeah same result20:45
k1lcodenul: "sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0"20:45
k1lcodenul: and after that with the second key: 14E4942973C62A1B20:45
jvelasqueztgm4883, ok. So, If I remove the service from the rc*.d scripts, but not override it,  in what order would the service be run?   And which scripts implement this behavior?20:46
tgm4883jvelasquez: in what order?20:46
codenuljust hangs there with a carrot symbot20:47
jvelasqueztgm4883,  ohh. unless upstart attempts to do it all at once?20:47
tgm4883jvelasquez: yes, in a way20:47
k1lcodenul: ?20:47
jvelasqueztgm4883,  is upstart a set of scripts, or binaries?20:48
codenulcommand worked20:48
codenulthanks guys20:48
grantwuSo I have a way to pretty reliably hard lock my Ubuntu system20:49
codenulbeen off and on with linux but truly making the jump now20:49
tgm4883jvelasquez: the jobs are scripts20:49
grantwuWhich is namely, "plug this Ethernet adapter into another Ethernet adapter"20:49
hanshenrikin a clean 16.04 netinst, if you run `apt install --no-install-recommends lxde-core lxde-common;apt install lxdm xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-vmware lxterminal policykit-1;reboot`, the login screen says "debian 8" in the background :p20:50
raisinhow can i save the information given in this forum ?20:51
raisini mean i learned a lot of things today just by watching20:51
k1l!irclogs | raisin20:51
ubotturaisin: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/20:51
hanshenrikraisin, well, you could install leafpad and use that20:51
raisinthanks20:52
raisinhanshen my copy and paste doesn't work with commands20:52
codenulany tips before i take my Net+ tests?20:53
k1lraisin: you can enable your irc program to create own logfiles.20:53
raisinok i ll do it20:53
raisinthanks20:53
raisin!irclogs20:54
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/20:54
raisinso this is the official ubuntu irc !!20:54
raisinthat's cool20:54
k1lraisin: yes it is. look at the topic :)  "/topic"20:55
raisinnice , now i know where to come when i get stuck20:56
raisinhave a good night20:57
codenulquiet night21:04
AzeroI got really confused before remembering that different timezones exist.21:05
codenulhaha21:06
codenulbeen really enjoying Linux the last couple week tbh21:06
codenuldont know why i didnt take the jump years ago21:06
Azerocodenul, I've been enjoying it myself but I only made the switch last night. So I'm a complete noob when it comes to any of the more interesting things that can be done.21:13
jotauverEriC^^:  pls can you past here again what to do with the finals files of the checksum?  my pc stucked... sorry21:13
k1l!irclogs | jotauver21:14
ubottujotauver: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/21:14
k1lthis channel is logged so you can look up what was said in here21:14
jotauvergreaaattt21:15
jotauverthnks21:15
imightbestupid12should I upgrade to the new 17.04 distribution?21:16
YankDownUnderimightbestupid12: What are you running now?21:17
Bashing-omimightbestupid12: Updating to 17.04 is a purely personal choice .21:17
imightbestupid1216.0421:17
imightbestupid12it's a server with stuff installed like php and nginx21:17
* YankDownUnder sits happily on 16.04.221:17
codenulAzero: honestly two nights ago i been the full switch21:18
codenulmade*21:18
codenulbut i have messed around over the years21:18
daxwouldn't recommend updating, 17.04 isn't LTS21:18
Bashing-omimightbestupid12: Servers "should" be on LTS releases !21:18
imightbestupid12why is should in quotes>21:18
daxprobably for emphasis21:19
auronandaceimightbestupid12: you asked whether you "should", he was quoting you21:19
imightbestupid12oh21:19
imightbestupid12If I'm running 16.10 that's bad right?21:20
daxdefinitely not ideal21:20
auronandaceimightbestupid12: it is not advisable for a server21:20
imightbestupid12Why do VPS providers offer that for the servers?21:20
imightbestupid12Also, what's wrong with using this version for a server?21:20
auronandaceimightbestupid12: that is their choice, doesn't make much sense because of the support timescale21:21
imightbestupid12What kind of support are we talking about?21:21
k1limightbestupid12: the issue is, that you need to upgrade every 6 months, if you dont stay on LTS. and that is not what you want to do on a server.21:21
imightbestupid12Why would I need to upgrade every 6 months?21:22
auronandaceimightbestupid12: normal realeased are supported for 9 months, lts releases for 5 years21:22
auronandaceimightbestupid12: no support means no updates, no bugfixes21:22
k1limightbestupid12: look at ubuntu.com/usn and think if you want to get that security updates or not.21:22
k1limightbestupid12: non-LTS have 9 months support timeframe. so from july 2017 you wont get any security updates anymore. so you need to upgrade to 17.0421:24
imightbestupid12will i be able to upgrade to 17.04 LTS?21:24
dax17.04 is not LTS21:24
daxas previously said21:24
imightbestupid12Will there be a 17.04 LTS?21:24
dax16.04 is LTS, and 18.04 will be LTS.21:24
imightbestupid12https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases21:24
daxno.21:25
auronandaceimightbestupid12: lts gets released every 2 years21:25
imightbestupid12Oh21:25
imightbestupid12Is it possible for me to upgrade from 16.10 to 16.04 LTS?21:25
tomreynthat would be a downgrade21:26
auronandaceimightbestupid12: that would be a downgrade, and the answer is no21:26
tomreyndowngrades are not supported21:26
imightbestupid12=*(21:26
imightbestupid12Why not?21:26
imightbestupid12I just spent so much time working with this server :(21:26
* imightbestupid12 cries21:26
auronandaceimightbestupid12: and you didn't invest much time considering how long it is supported for?21:27
tomreynif you'r eon a non LTS release now you can upgrade it until you reach the next LTS release and use LTS from there on21:27
marvin2what does a red file ending with @ indicate?21:35
marvin2in terminal21:35
marvin2if I try to access it it says file does not exist, so maybe it is a broken link?21:35
collyhi, can anyone tell me if rc.local is run before any services?21:37
Aprexer/usr/bin/lwp-request warning Anything to be worried about?21:39
LinuxN00bwhat is the difference between ubuntu and linux?21:39
YankDownUnderUbuntu *is* linux.21:39
AprexerLinux is a kernal21:40
AprexerUbuntu is a distro21:40
AprexerKlined lol21:40
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AkumaHello, I'm trying to get a USB to Ethernet adapter on 17.04LTS using the AX88179 chipset, I downloaded the drivers from the site and followed the readme instructions; doing lsusb shows the device, but for some reason I don't get an interface when doing ifconfig21:42
Akumaany ideas what I am doing wrong?21:43
tomreynAkuma: 17.04LTS does not exist. there is Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, there withh be Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, there is Ubuntu 16.10 and 17.04 and there will be Ubuntu 17.1021:44
dharmahi guys21:44
Akumawhen I do `dmesg |grep ASIX` I can see this: http://prntscr.com/eyw5iz21:44
tomreynwithh -> will21:44
dharmai need some help regarding disabling inbuilt wifi adapter21:44
Akumatomreyn, https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server21:45
Akumayou are right, I downloaded 17.0421:45
Akumaserver version21:45
dharmahello21:45
tomreynAkuma: what does lsusb output for the AX88179 ?21:46
marvin2how do I actually clear terminal? clear just scrolls the text up out of the view21:47
tomreynreset21:47
tomreynmarvin2: ^21:47
marvin2hilarious21:47
tomreynit does more than just clearing it, but i think it's what you wanted21:48
marvin2tomreyn you are a true comedian21:49
marvin2got any more of them jokes21:49
tomreyni'm german, i don't understand the concept of jokes. also, this is just a support channel, we'd need to move chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic21:50
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oerheks'clear' would be more appropriate ..21:51
marvin2oerheks clear just scrolls the text up, I want to delete it21:52
grantwuSo, I've made some progress on my issue.21:52
oerheksclear bashhistory ..21:52
grantwuWhen I plug in my Ethernet adapters in a particular way, I panic the kernel21:52
ChaiTRexgrantwu: Success!21:53
grantwuI've setup kdump, but it doesn't seem to have written anything21:53
oerhekshistory -c .. nice howto with a lot of examples http://sourcedigit.com/13507-clear-terminal-history-ubuntu/21:54
marvin2oerheks ok I am obviously not describing what I want well.. i want to clear the text in the terminal, not bash command history. you would think clear will do that, but it doesn't, all the text is still there21:55
al2o3-crmarvin2: clear then printf '\033[3J'21:55
ChaiTRexmarvin2: Does `reset` work?21:56
marvin2ok printing '\033[3J' did it21:56
marvin2tomreyn heh, my apologies. I somehow read "reset" as "reboot". reset does the job as well22:00
ChaiTRex`reset` is quite nice if your terminal gets messed up somehow.22:02
skinuxTo remvoe a PPA, does it need to be this "sudo add-apt-repository --remove "https://deb.packager.io/gh/opf/openproject-ce xenial Release"22:04
tomreynmarvin2: np, I was wondering whether that might be the case. luckily there are man pages which can ease your mind about running commands you are not sure about.22:04
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katakaioskinux: I find it easier to simply delete the PPA in question from /etc/apt/sources.list or sources.list.d22:05
skinuxIt's not in /etc/apt/sources.list, but maybe in sources.list.d22:05
katakaioEven easier then :)22:06
mark76MY GOD I HATE LINUX WEB BROWSERS22:06
mark76THEY ALL SUCK SUCK SUCK22:06
grantwuwhat does that mean22:06
ikoniano need for caps please mark7622:06
grantwuAre you saying the one true web browser is Microsoft Edge?22:06
mark76Just name me one web browser for this operating system that's not broken in some crucial way22:07
YankDownUnderAh. (looks at Chrome and Firefox)...funny - seems to be more than fine here...must be the coffee.22:07
grantwuChrome seems to work fine for me, yeah22:07
ikoniamark76: why dont you state the problem so people can help if they can22:07
mark76Firefox slows down to a crawl after only an hour's use22:07
grantwuLike, I have plenty of problems with Linux; the web browser selection is not one of them...22:08
mark76Chromium don't want none of yo fancy gtk22:08
ikoniamark76: thats not everyones experience22:08
grantwuYou can enable the gtk theme22:08
ikoniamark76: whats the problem with chromium please ?22:08
mark76Even with the GTK theme enabled it doesn't really use the system GTK theme22:09
ikoniathats not really broken is it22:09
mark76It just makes an approximation22:09
ikoniathats just not the theme you really want22:09
mark76And that's why I don't use Chromium22:09
Bashing-ommark76: Ya got the ram to support the fearures you want in a browser ? Is your graphic's card laying the load on the CPU ?22:09
grantwuOkay, but that's a comparatively small problem22:09
grantwuMeanwhile over here I can cause the kernel to dereference a null pointer at 0x8 if I plug in these ethernet adapters a certain way22:10
mark76I have 4 GBs of RAM.  Don't tell me I need even more now?22:10
mark76I don't have a graphics card22:11
ikoniayou're using the video from onboard the cpu ?22:11
mark76Yes22:11
CodeMouse92__(4GB is becoming the new "low end" of memory)22:11
ikonia4gb is fine22:11
ikoniafar fro  low end22:11
mark76They don't make graphics cards for my computer anymore22:11
ikoniafrom22:11
jvelasqueztgm4883, heh. did you see the link to the upstart cookbook in red right at the top of the Getting Started page?22:12
CodeMouse92__ikonia: I guess it depends on what you're doing. I find 4GB is usually too sluggish/22:12
ikoniamark76: what type of computer is this22:12
mark76Compaq SR5219UK?22:12
ikoniaCodeMouse92__: then you are not doing normal desktop operations and 4gb is far from low end22:13
naccmark76: sorry if you mentioned it already, what version of ubuntu?22:13
mark76I'm trying to edit a post on Facebook22:13
ikoniamark76: that says it comes with an athlon x2 cpu22:13
ikoniaand it uses an onboard nvidia chipset video card22:14
grantwuI am inclined to blame Facebook here22:14
grantwuAlthough, to be fair, I have a desktop system with 4 GB of RAM and an Athlon x2 and it can still use Facebook fine22:14
mark76That's correct Ikonia22:14
ikoniathat desktop is 10 years old22:14
ikoniamark76: ok - so thats quiet different than what you told us22:14
ikoniaquiet ?? quite I mean22:14
mark76It's also over 10 years old and I can't afford anything newer :(22:15
grantwuMy desktop is indeed 10 years and 4 months old22:15
YankDownUnder(Trying to race in the Indy 500 with a Ford Model-T)22:15
mark76So we all agree Facebook is a sucky RAM and CPU hog?22:15
ikoniamark76: not really22:15
katakaiomark76: there are a number of linux distros that are designed to work as smoothly as possible on lower-spec machines, including xubuntu and lubuntu22:16
ikoniamark76: is your machine actually running low on resources22:16
grantwuIt is relative to what it should be; but it should still be usable.  Are you using recent Ubuntu/Firefox?22:16
mark76I'm actually using Xubuntu22:16
mark76I don't know ikonia22:16
dropkick500Yeah there's even distros designed for pcs that are optimized to run things like windows 9822:16
ikoniamark76: ok, so thats something to look into first, what resources your machine has free22:17
YankDownUnderStill be usable - yes - IF you're running a window manager/desktop manager that is NOT heavy on resources - like Unity or Gnome or Mate or Cinnamon or KDE...THEN it might run well...22:17
mark76I'm using 16:10 and whatever version of FF comes with it22:17
oerheksnot a youtube racemonster card, GeForce 6150SE nForce 43022:17
katakaiomark76: excellent, xubuntu is a favorite of mine :) As much as I love Chromium, I always had better luck with Firefox on my xubuntu box. Restricting the cache size was the key to making Firefox happy in my case22:18
mark76I'm using 44% Ram and between 60 and 100% of my CPU22:18
ikoniamark76: so your cpu maxing out isn't great22:19
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mark76Yeah, but I don't know what to do about it22:19
katakaiomark76: ikonia said that your rig has an onboard video card. Have you tried updating your graphics drivers or using the restricted drivers?22:19
mark76I'm using the Nvidia driver22:20
katakaioWell, I'd be curious to see what process is hogging the cpu with top or similar22:21
mark76Firefox is using 53%22:22
mark76~53%22:22
mark76It fluctuates22:22
tomreynabout:performance22:22
mark76In firefox?22:22
tomreynyes, should help you find out what is consuming the resources22:23
tomreynthose 53%22:23
mark76The stupid thing is I'm not even using any plugins22:23
mark76Well, not active ones22:23
mark76Would you mind a screenshot instead of me trying to explain what I got from about:performance?22:25
katakaiomark76: this is xubuntu 16.10 x64?22:26
mark76Yes it is katakaio22:26
mark76http://i.imgur.com/pTSr9sP.png22:27
mark76http://i.imgur.com/EY1LK4t.png22:28
mark76http://i.imgur.com/93p2rz7.png22:29
tomreynmark76: no clues there. about:support may be of use then.22:29
mark76I've tried refreshing22:31
YankDownUndermark76: Just wondering - have you tried turning off "compositing" in the XFce settings?22:32
jvelasquezok.  So Upstart is great.  Now was somebody saying it's been deprecated?22:32
naccjvelasquez: not just deprecated, it will be removed eventually22:33
naccjvelasquez: and it's not the default in 16.04+ (technically 15.10+, but 15.10 is eol)22:33
mark76I'll try it, but I'm not sure how much difference it'll make22:34
jvelasqueznacc, ok. and what is replacing it?22:34
YankDownUndermark76: "Compositiing" eats up resource...especially for graphics (GPU) related stuff...which FF uses...hmm...22:34
mark76Ah22:35
Bashing-omnacc: Off the top of your head ... is upstart dead now in 17.04 on a clean fresh install ?22:35
naccBashing-om: i think it's still used by the session manager22:35
YankDownUndermark76: Triming down all unnecessary "graphics" toys/eye-candy will help.22:35
naccBashing-om: for login sessions22:35
naccjvelasquez: systemd22:35
naccjvelasquez: and has replaced it everywhere, essentially22:36
jvelasqueznacc,  ahh. that's what I've got, and I hate it.22:36
naccjvelasquez: you can use a different distribution, but most are coalescing around systemd22:36
Bashing-ommark76: K. was watching the conversation, to try and remove upstart completely in 17.04 .22:36
naccjvelasquez: you're also quite late to this particular discussion :)22:37
naccBashing-om: but i will say, on my 17.04 right now, no upstart running22:37
naccBashing-om: so we might be rid of it now22:37
naccBashing-om: yeah it's not installed on my system and it's fine22:37
naccBashing-om: so i'm guessing it will be removed in AA, definitely by 18.0422:37
tomreynmark76: as previously hinted at, i'd suggest you also look into firefox caching settings, making the disk cache less thann 500 MB (maybe just 100 MB). if you have an old hard drive there then disk writes will considerably slow everything down.22:38
mark76Right22:38
Bashing-omnacc: We move on to bigger and better things , Hello systemd !22:39
naccBashing-om: indeed :)22:39
oerheksArtfull Aardvark :-D22:39
mark76Where do I go to set the cache level?22:40
tomreynmark76:  about:preferences, Advanced, Network22:41
mark76Okay, I set the cache to 100mb22:43
tomreynmark76: if yours is really old, consider getting a hard disk which is a couple years younger (if you can get it cheap or for free, can be 2nd hand). it'll still make a huge impact.22:44
* tomreyn to bed22:45
mark76Aye, I should do that.  But what about all my data?22:46
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gredjokwhat can I use to reduce size of a pdf, not affecting qua.ity?22:50
gredjokor affecting it not much. 70 pages are 270mb22:50
sysictcan help how to setup rsync server for repository22:51
kostkonmark76, even better, get an SSD22:52
geniimark76: Get a larger drive than the one you have, then boot to livecd/usb, dd the old one to the new one, then gparted to adjust the old partition sizes to fill the new drive22:58
vijuHi22:59
vijuHow do I enable java in chrome/firefox? Using ubuntu 16.0423:00
JonelethIrenicushow can i test thunderbolt 3 speed23:00
marvin2my ubuntu running in VM flies after I moved it to a partition on ssd. I thought VM was the bottle neck but it clearly wasn't23:01
m_viju didn't Firefox remove support for Java?23:01
hfpHi all, I was happily running 16.10 using the built-in backup system daily. Then I updated to 17.04 because I like adventure. Of course I didn't backup because I had daily built-in backups. A couple of days later, I find 17.04 very buggy and I'd like to go back to 16.10. Is there any way I can use my backups to either restore my settings on a fresh 16.10 install or roll back to 16.10 altogether? I thought23:01
hfpthis system made full incremental backups but I now have a hunch it did not and my backups are pretty much useles... Any thoughts?23:01
m_viju https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/npapi-plugins?as=u&utm_source=inproduct23:01
vijum_: same happened with chrome?23:03
m_viju I believe so23:03
vijuWhy is it supported on windows browsers?23:03
vijuJust for using one application I have to go to windows. That just defeats the purpose why java was used.23:04
m_and is it supported?? Which ones?23:04
m_Internet Explorer only?23:05
vijuIt's some cisco app webex believe23:05
marvin2how do I prevent alt+tab in ubuntu from grouping multiple instances of the same program together?23:05
vijum_: I can use it on certain chrome version, I dont remember version number23:05
m_I suppose this must be a pretty early version viju23:06
m_I don't think it's a good idea to run outdated versions of browsers23:06
ChaiTRexviju: You can try `javaws`.23:06
nickmena#list23:07
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backboxhello23:09
backboxhey23:09
Jordan_Umarvin2: This doesn't directly answer your question, but it might be useful to know that alt+` switches between windows within an ap.23:12
vijuChaiTRex: I don't know how to use it for opening webex session23:23
selsperrHow do I check if I have the correct drivers already installed on ubuntu?23:34
selsperrgraphics wise23:34
Bashing-omselsperr: Depemds on the card and what release you are on . lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga .23:37
Bashing-omdepends*23:37
selsperrhttps://pastebin.com/CsL6Wq5p23:39
thatlizdudeok so today in the morning, i opened up my laptop and entered the CORRECT password, and it wouldn't let me in, it said it's the wrong password, so i had to restart for it to work again23:39
thatlizdudewhy would that happen? where can i find logs?23:39
acovrigIDK if it's an ubuntu or libvirt issue, but in ubutnu 16.04 my VMs' networking died and refuses to come back - bridges work, I can dhclient br1, but a VM attached to br1 doesn't get an IP...23:39
thatlizdudei really can't have this happen again, otherwise i would have to switch to different OS23:42
Bashing-omselsperr: " Radeon HD 4650 " so we are looking at the radeon driver . confirm ' sudo lshw -C display ; lsmod | grep radeon ' .23:42
selsperrhttps://pastebin.com/Aj2tK1Mc23:44
selsperrnot sure what any of that means23:45
Bashing-omselsperr: You have what is and what is - is correct " configuration: driver=radeon // radeon  1515520  4 " .23:46
selsperrwhich bit am I meant to be looking at23:46
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selsperrso all good on that front?23:47
Bashing-omselsperr: AMD cards . Presently there are only 3 . old cards take the radein driver, new carts take the andgpu driver, bleeding edge cards do amdgpu-pro .23:48
thatlizdudeso i have found the log23:49
thatlizdudethis is the log when the login failed even though i entered the right password: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9df760be03752a54d7bca05b6adb397723:49
thatlizdudeplease take a look, i need to know why it happened23:49
thatlizdudehello...?23:54
andyworkwho is there?23:54
thatlizdudei just need help with why it didn't take the password :(23:56
warren_Hi guys I'm trying to use a gpu externally on my laptop via a mpcie to pcie x1 adapter, it's all hooked up but I can't boot with power on the gpu. Anyone have any suggestions as to what steps I can take to get this working? Using a toshiba satellite 1505 running ubuntu mate 16.0423:56

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