[04:03] <jianghuaw> hi does charm-nova-compute support VMware?
[04:05] <jianghuaw> or have to use this charm - nova-compute-vmware? It seems nova-compute-vmware has no update since 2014-06-24. https://code.launchpad.net/~openstack-charmers/charms/precise/nova-compute-vmware/trunk
[04:06] <jianghuaw> @jamespage
[04:06] <jianghuaw> jamespage, Do you have an answer about the above question? thanks.
[04:07] <blahdeblah> jianghuaw: It will probably be a few more hours before he's around (assuming he's not travelling at the moment)
[04:07] <jianghuaw> blahdeblah, thanks for the information.
[05:36] <jam> menn0: if you're around https://github.com/juju/txn/pull/32 allows us to use RemoveAll($in) instead of Bulk when Bulk isn't really supported
[07:32] <chatter29> hey guys
[07:32] <chatter29> allah is doing
[07:32] <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
[07:32] <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
[07:45] <kjackal> Good morning Juju world!
[11:31] <SimonKLB> is it possible to access relation conversations from multiple charms related using the same interface?
[11:31] <SimonKLB> or is it only possible to access one conversation at a time?
[11:37] <kjackal> SimonKLB: I think you have access to a list of all conversations
[11:37] <kjackal> let me grab an exmple of that
[11:39] <kjackal> SimonKLB: https://github.com/juju-solutions/interface-dfs/blob/master/provides.py#L37
[11:40] <SimonKLB> kjackal: this is only going to grab the conversations of the units, not multiple charms, right?
[11:40] <SimonKLB> of the units (in one charm)*
[11:44] <SimonKLB> i believe a mix of relation_ids() and relation_get() will do the trick
[11:50] <kjackal> SimonKLB: you are right this will give you the conversations the unit participates in. I've never seen a unit grabbing conversations of other units.
[11:51] <SimonKLB> kjackal: no that is not what i want, i want all of the conversations between a charm and other charms related with a specific relation
[11:52] <SimonKLB> for example, if wordpress was related to both mysql and mariadb, i would like the username and password from both databases in wordpress
[11:53] <kjackal> i see
[11:55] <SimonKLB> looks like youre blocked from accessing the relation when it's not in the correct context though
[17:10] <lazyPower> SimonKLB: so long as you're in reactive, and using reactive states, you can iterate through the cached conversation data objects
[17:10] <lazyPower> thats something cory work on when implementing reactive, was to remove the requirement to be in context to access that data.
[17:10] <lazyPower> s/work/worked/
[17:11] <lazyPower> SimonKLB: an example case: https://github.com/juju-solutions/interface-elasticsearch/blob/master/requires.py#L48-L51
[18:08] <kjackal> cory_fu: question on conjure-up. Is it posible for a partner to create a spell that would modify an already deployed k8s cluster?
[18:18] <cory_fu> So, there's this: https://github.com/conjure-up/conjure-up/issues/624
[18:18] <cory_fu> That was planned for 2.2 but I really doubt that's going to happen.
[18:18] <cory_fu> But it's definitely in the plan.
[18:20] <cory_fu> Though, I realize that maybe that's not exactly what you were asking about.  Are you talking about capturing a non-Juju deployed k8s cluster?
[18:20] <cory_fu> kjackal: ^
[18:21] <cory_fu> I guess it's actually targeted at 2.2.1 and not 2.2.0
[18:22] <lazyPower> cory_fu: well its targeted at milestone: later
[18:22] <lazyPower> is it later yet?
[18:23] <cory_fu> Oh yeah, apparently I can't read.
[18:25] <lazyPower> <3
[18:25] <lazyPower> just poking at ya buddy :)
[18:25] <cory_fu> :)
[18:25] <kjackal> cory_fu: lazyPower: so if a partner just wants to "kubectl create -f <my_special_yaml>" he could write up a spell to do so?
[18:25] <lazyPower> I believe that's possible today, you skip the yaml def and only declare the scripted spell componentry, right cory_fu?
[18:26] <lazyPower> or am i making too many assumptions here, because there are a lot compacted into that statement
[18:27] <cory_fu> lazyPower: I don't know if it's possible to skip the deployment portion completely, but you also can't choose an existing deployed model in the GUI yet, either.
[18:27] <lazyPower> ah right thats only headless with flags
[18:27] <cory_fu> That was going to be part of that issue
[18:27] <cory_fu> Right
[18:27] <lazyPower> well, for POC they could get started...
[18:27] <lazyPower> but you're right the curses portion is going be a trail of tears
[18:28] <cory_fu> lazyPower: There's nothing technically challenging about that feature, it's just a matter of designing the user experience and the prioritization of it, though stokachu might correct me on that
[18:29] <stokachu> yea thats pretty much it
[19:02] <lazyPower> cory_fu: CORYYYYYY
[19:02] <lazyPower> got a sec? :)
[19:03] <cory_fu> omg
[19:03] <cory_fu> What's up?
[19:03] <lazyPower> cory_fu: can you join us in the group hangout?
[19:03] <cory_fu> Yeah, one sec
[19:03] <cory_fu> Erin's on the phone in the background, but I'll use headphones so hopefully it won't be an issue