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Delvienwarren_: Lemme know how that turns out, that wouldnt be something id touch with a 10 foot pole :P00:04
warren_Delvien, thanks been a pain, the adapter has a usb 2.0 slot built in. that pops right up, but the gpu seems to hate me lol00:06
Delvienwarren_:  I did it in windows, and even that was a huge pain in the ass00:06
Delvienwarren_: of course.. mine was expresscard, not mpcie00:06
warren_Delvien, I didn't have an expresscard slot or I would've tryed that instead. I think that I may need to mod my bios to turn off the internal graphics and switch to the external00:09
Delvienwarren_: make sure the gfx card isnt blacklisted. also is it showing up in lspci -nn ?00:09
warren_Delvien, not showing up in lspci, not sure how the blacklisted works00:11
apostolosDelvien, what are you trying to do? Install an external gpu to the mpcie slot of a laptop using an adaptor?00:13
Delvienapostolos:  im not trying to do it :P00:13
warren_I am00:14
apostolosoh ok :P00:14
apostoloscool00:14
Delvienwarren_: why are you even trying to do this?00:14
warren_apostolos, it'd be cooler if I could find it :)00:14
apostolosI was about to try it a few years ago but thought it wouldn't be very practical so abandoned the idea00:14
Delvienapostolos: its not, because mpcie means you have to attach it to the boards slot, which makes it about as immovable as a desktop00:15
Delvienapostolos: and at that point, just build a desktop00:15
apostolosDelvien, yeah exactly00:15
warren_Delvien, mining, had a desktop lined up fell through00:15
Delvienwarren_: shiiiiiiieeeeee just find one on craigslist.00:16
Delvienwarren_:  or if u have a mom and pop compu store in your area,00:16
apostoloswarren_, as Delvien has already mentioned many laptop manufacturers blacklist everything except for a few mpcie wifi adapters00:16
apostolosso you might have to find a modded bios as well00:16
Delvienwhich will be a PITA00:16
warren_Delvien, it's crazy how much people want for junk desktops around here00:17
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warren_Delvien, people asking $400+ for used I3's with 8 gb ram lol00:18
apostolosalso you should probably attach psu as well, I don't think the mpcie bus can provide so high current00:19
selsperrwhat does this mean? runescape-launcher : Depends: libglew1.10 (>= 1.10.0-3) but it is not installable00:19
Delvienwarren_: is the i3 a skylake/kabylake?00:19
warren_apostolos, it's on it's own psu00:19
apostolosgreat then it should be fine ;)00:20
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Delvienwarren_: is the i3 a skylake/kabylake?00:21
apostolosselsperr, what version are you running?00:21
apostolosI mean release00:22
selsperr16.0400:22
warren_Delvien, I don't know, either way more then what I was looking to spend atm. I think if I end up with a desktop I'd rather do a custom build. Though there is a guy selling servers converted to desktops in the area I've been thinking about hitting him up when I get some extra cash00:22
apostoloshave you tried sudo apt-get install libglew1.10 ?00:23
Bashing-om!info libglew1.10 xenial00:23
ubottuPackage libglew1.10 does not exist in xenial00:23
Delvienwarren_: be wary of those. They suck so much juice, you may as well save up a little more for a desktop pc/mobo00:23
ChaiTRexselsperr: See https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2320850 for a workaround.00:23
Bashing-om!info runescape-launcher xenial00:23
ubottuPackage runescape-launcher does not exist in xenial00:23
selsperrE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)00:24
selsperrE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?00:24
warren_Delvien, I'll keep that in mind thanks :)00:24
Bashing-omselsperr: Looks to be 3rd party software . need to talk to the maintainers .00:24
ChaiTRexselsperr: Is apt-get, apt, or dpkg still running elsewhere?00:24
selsperronly one terminal open00:24
Delvienwarren_: I have an old fx-4130 ill sell ya for cheap lol00:25
ChaiTRexselsperr: I guess you can do `sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock` if you're sure nothing's handling packages right now.00:25
warren_Delvien, is it pick up only? lol00:26
Delvienwarren_ what area u in00:27
selsperrPackage libglew1.10 is not available, but is referred to by another package.00:27
selsperrThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or00:27
selsperris only available from another source00:27
apostolosactually fx-4130 has been really good :P00:27
warren_Delvien, mi usa00:27
selsperrbrb00:28
Delvienapostolos: ikr i was thinking about selling my 4790k and just going down to that for my server environment00:28
ChaiTRexselsperr: Try the workaround in the link I pasted: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232085000:28
ChaiTRexselsperr: That'll get libglew installed.00:28
johnfghi guys00:28
Delvien!hi johnfg00:28
Delvienhmm i forget the ubbotu command00:29
johnfgIn getting libnss-ldapd set up, I've accidentally made it where I can't login to 17.04 server.00:29
warren_Delvien, there are actually some decent deals, but about an hour from where I live. I might have to just give in and make the trip00:29
johnfgI didn't set up root with its own password.  What to do?00:29
Delvienwarren_: do iiiiiiiit00:29
ChaiTRexjohnfg: Can you log in as another user and use `sudo`?00:30
selsperrChaiTRex: what should i put in termainl? sudo dpkg -i didn't work00:30
johnfgunfortunately not.  No other users yet, brand new installation.00:31
johnfgUnless is mysql admin available as a login account?00:31
johnfgNope, mysql didn't work.00:32
selsperrsorry ChaiTRex I dont understand what to do with that link00:36
johnfgI did use rescue mode, and did a Dropt to root shell prompt, but it's not fully functional.  I.e., it won't allow vipw, or even for root itself, passwd.00:36
ChaiTRexselsperr: Sorry, one second.00:37
ChaiTRexselsperr: What is the output of `uname -a`?00:38
selsperr-HP-Pavilion-dv6-Notebook-PC 4.8.0-46-generic #49~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 31 14:51:03 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux00:39
ChaiTRexselsperr: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd64/libglew1.10/1.10.0-3 says to download https://launchpadlibrarian.net/161405671/libglew1.10_1.10.0-3_amd64.deb00:40
ChaiTRexselsperr: You can then use `sudo apt install Downloads/libglew1.10_1.10.0-3_amd64.deb`00:41
pd1selsperr, or dpkg -i libglew1.10_1.10.0-3_amd64.deb00:42
johnfgAny ideas on adding a user or adding a password when in the root shell prompt in rescue mode?00:42
ChaiTRexpd1: apt install handles missing dependencies. dpkg -i expects you to then use `apt install -f` to fix any.00:42
ChaiTRexjohnfg: See https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-create-a-sudo-user-on-ubuntu-linux-server/ for adding a user that can use `sudo`00:45
selsperrthanks ChaiTRex, got it running00:45
tubalHello. Show of hands -- who has difficulty with the Gnome (or GTK+) toggle switch? E.g.: https://esite.ch/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/EWn5B.png  Is that on or off? I have to puzzle it out every time.00:45
ChaiTRexselsperr: You're welcome.00:45
nacctubal: uh, it says "ON"?00:45
nacctubal: and iirc, it's only lit when on00:45
ChaiTRextubal: Same as nacc.00:46
Bashing-omChaiTRex: selsperr No can do : as the package manager insist " Depends: libglew1.10 (>= 1.10.0-3) " .00:46
tubalnacc: Okay, I'll buy that. However, when I look at it, it makes me think than "ON" is the choice I can toggle *to*.00:46
nacctubal: in the US, at least, look at light switches, they display the current state00:47
nacci'm fairly sure that's the model used00:47
tubalnacc: Really. Not here.00:47
tubalIf that's why, I'd argue that it's a poor model.00:48
johnfgI fixed it, and here's how, if anyone else makes this mistake.00:48
nacctubal: i've seen the same in other countries, admittedly00:49
nacctubal: so you'd prefer it was lit and said off?00:49
naccthat would be even worse00:49
tubalNot prefer, really. Some other arrangement.00:50
nacctubal: someting to bring up with upstream gnome, presumably, not ubuntu :)00:50
ChaiTRexnacc: I could see having a light separate from the switch that was on and was labelled on.00:50
naccChaiTRex: yeah, i guess that's true, not part of the slider/switch00:50
naccor display both labels above the slider00:50
tubalnacc: Oh, it's not as serious as all that. Or if it is, I expect they have plenty of reports on it already. :)00:51
tubalChaiTRex, Something like that, yeah.00:51
johnfgAt the grub menu, choose Advance Options, then rescue mode.00:52
tubalbtw, if anyone has installed diodon and wondered why it doesn't work, there lies the answer.00:52
johnfgChoose drop into a root shell.00:52
johnfgThen do mount -o rw,remount /, and you'll be able to run vipw in my case, and the changes will be written out.00:53
Basketballtest01:02
Basketball!test01:02
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3...01:02
johnfgOk, I've got users out of /etc/passwd, and into openldap.  All seems to be good.01:11
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jdavisHello, in pavucontrol the selected device on the "configuration" tab just changes randomly. Any idea how I can stop this?01:25
johnfg6~/quit01:25
chocolaterobothi all. I just bought a Chuwi Hi12 tablet, which comes with both Android and Win10. I'm thinking of installing Linux on it. What are your thoughts?01:26
AzeroConstant laughing at all the "microsoft support" scams.01:27
wudo_honourhi gays, I want to install ubuntu in my laptop, how about that?01:48
Bashing-om!install | wudo_honour01:49
ubottuwudo_honour: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate01:49
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codepython7771I want to be able to login into my ubuntu box using my laptop wirelessly. It's not on a wireless network. What wireless hardware do I need to do this? Preferably with long range02:22
kenrinWhat?02:24
CHVNXcodepython7771: research SSH02:25
CHVNXYou want to use SSH to log into your computer.  You do this via your router.02:25
codepython7771CHVNX: There are no routers in the picture02:25
CHVNXIf both computers are connected to the network, you will be able to communicate with each other.02:25
codepython7771just 1 machine without monitor/keyb, and the other is my laptop02:25
CHVNXDo you have a wireless network?02:26
kenrinYou'll need a router02:26
codepython7771I need to login into the machine using my laptop - so need the ubuntu box to hast a hot spot02:26
codepython7771kenrin: I am thinking of making the machine a hotspot - preferably with high power - so that the laptop can ssh into it from a distance02:26
kenrinI guess you could do that.  Seems like a lot of trouble vs connecting a crossover cable02:27
CHVNXYou could always just buy a $10 router...02:28
codepython7771can't i just buy a usb wireless card (compact) and make ubuntu a hotspot - I just need something that works with ubuntu and is long range02:28
kenringet a 2.4ghz card for longer range02:29
Oerheksnot all wifi hardware / driver can do that, look for certified wifi hardware, intel i guess.02:29
codepython7771kenrin: do you know of a usb one that works with ubuntu?02:29
kenrinThere are thousands and thousands,  it depends on the chipset02:29
kenrinoddly enough the cheap ones work better02:29
Oerheks!hardware02:30
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection02:30
Delphinhi, I have a problem when I run jake, I get : jake aborted.02:37
DelphinSyntaxTerror: Cannot find module 'system'02:37
Delphin    at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:325:15)02:37
Delphin    at Function.Module._load (module.js:276:25)02:37
Delphin(See full trace by running task with --trace)02:37
grantwuhttp://ix.io/rjl I upgraded to 17.04 today and now am hitting general protection faults02:40
transhumananyone know of any scripts anyone has written to eliminate all packages from ubuntu that are not required to run anything but LAMP and sendmail?02:40
Bashing-omtranshuman: Generally - best practice - build up rather than tear down . Why not install core and add LAMP and sendmail?02:44
transhumanjust figured it might be way of straightening out a server the lazy mans way..of course a san snapshot would be done first...02:48
transhumanI tried rebuilding it on alpine-linux but getting an access denied for the website on alpine...knocked my head against the wall for 2 days and tried every common reason for this error that I could find02:49
transhumanusing virtual hosts and no .htaccess02:50
donofriohow can I get libxslt to see libxml2 that is in /app/Utilities/libxml2 - cd /app/source/libxslt-1.1.29 && ./configure --prefix=/app/Utilities/libxslt --with-python=/app/Utilities/libxslt && make && make install02:55
SynfulAckhey whats this "Install a minimal virtual machine" Mode option during ubuntu server installs? http://imgur.com/a/LPBLJ02:56
SynfulAckIs that for installing it unto hypervisors, or is it trying to role me my own hypervisor?02:57
SynfulAckSounds like its meant to be put onto a hypervisor or virtualized.02:57
onkarsend ip of host02:58
SynfulAcku also want its twitter account?02:58
elkyonkar: it's not clear what you are asking for03:00
onkarelky: sorry wrong channel03:02
SynfulAck:*(03:03
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IronYI admit defeat03:05
elkyIronY: defeated by what?03:06
IronYanyone know why a 17.04 upgrade would suddenly prevent both Xvnc and Xorg from running at the same time?03:06
IronYi have apt-get removed purged reinstalled xorg03:06
IronYthe xstartup file has not changed03:06
IronYthey work independently03:06
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grantwugnome-shell has general protection faulted 4 times in the past 75 minutes03:16
grantwuWhat should I do?03:16
darthanubisrigctld - Hamlib TCP rig control daemon03:17
darthanubisI can run this cmd with sudo just fine, but not with normal user03:18
pd1darthanubis: you cannot get every tcp socket without root access. thats why it does not allow you to run it without root access03:24
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TheShadowBrokers.03:45
PoleschI keep getting bash: ./T-COFFEE_installer_Version_11.00.ed01f1f_linux_x64.bin: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error04:09
PoleschWhen trying this: http://www.tcoffee.org/Projects/tcoffee/#DOWNLOAD04:09
VTasany channels on freenode that is for linux hardware/ opensource hardware?04:34
krytarikVTas: Looks like ##hardware is indeed your best bet.04:37
VTaskrytarik: ty04:37
krytarikAlso,..04:37
krytarik!alis04:37
ubottuAlis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"04:37
VTasoh awesome didnt know. Thank you04:38
krytarikThat's exactly what I did, that is.04:38
wort0hi guys. sorry to be a bother. I use ubuntu regularly but I'm curious if I can use ubuntu on a liveusb to run something like chkdsk on a HDD running windows that may have bad sectors.04:39
Ben64wort0: no]04:39
Ben64you gotta use windows tools for windows stuff04:40
etgtgtgwrzh_thank god they killed "unity" desktop04:40
PipeItToDevNullwort0, chkdsk is a Windows Utility, fsck is what Linux uses04:41
wort0Ben64, I figured as much but I thought I'd ask since I'm out of options. thanks04:41
SynfulAckDoes ubuntu 16.04.02 lts have a ncurses or like package that can configure the networking like redhat has with nmtui ?04:56
SynfulAckWICD ?04:56
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kbobSynfulAck: try apt-cache search WICD05:13
SynfulAckkbob, i tried and installed then when it prompted me to add a user to udev i pressed something and i dont think it got added, tried purging it then reinstalling but now luck and it wont run.05:14
SynfulAckEven sudo wont work, which leads me to believe i dont understand this software and maybe i ahve to install other packages like the daemon. So i gave up and just edited /etc/network/interfaces and hope thats good enough.05:15
kbobyou have a permission problem, fix the connection and than look at it05:16
SynfulAckfix the connection, wasnt that what i was trying to solve in the first place?05:18
grv11hi05:22
grv11everyone05:22
grv11just need information on how to speed up my system,I need quick hack05:22
baywordsThis isn't ubuntu related.. But dies anyone know of expressvpn  hides user agent data? I want to tether my ps4 to my phones  data (unnoticed)  by att05:25
baywordsSorry for the typos.  My keyboard  has been acting funny ever since 7.005:26
baywordsWz!  7160205:26
baywordshmm  I did it wrong.05:27
baywordsI forget the weather  command..05:27
grv11Just got to your setting on keyboards and mouse05:28
grv11change delay short setting05:28
baywordsAnyone?05:31
Ben64baywords: if it isn't ubuntu related it doesn't go in this channel05:32
baywordsOkay. Say I have ubuntu and I have expressvpn installed :| and a router with expresspvn :| oh and ubuntu.  How would my ubuntu was know if  a VPN hides user agent data when I connect my ps4  to the network. That also has ubuntu :|05:34
baywordsUbuntu  ass know if05:34
baywords*05:34
baywordsUbuntu is the only channel I know05:37
baywordsGive  an old ubuntu  user some info aye05:37
krytarik!alis05:37
krytarikbaywords: That is to say, "/msg Alis help list" to find more channels.05:40
grv11msg Alis help list05:41
grv11I hv a issue05:41
grv11I used qupzilla05:41
grv11as browser05:41
grv11but its not updating on my system05:42
krytarik!enter | grv1105:42
ubottugrv11: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.05:42
grv11qupzilla is best browser so far in term of memory . its lates version is release but its not shown on software update ,unable to update05:43
kostkongrv11, how did you install it?05:44
grv11through terminal05:44
grv11apt-get05:44
grv11i hv installed 1.8.9 and latest is 2.1.205:46
grv11sudo apt-get install qupzilla ..this is how i installed it05:47
kostkon!latest | grv1105:48
ubottugrv11: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.05:48
grv11git-hub ,what is that05:49
grv11can we use through it????05:50
grv11its the best browser from the junk opera,firefox and chrome05:50
kostkongrv11, you would have to compile it yourself. Not an easy task for new users.05:51
zambawhat do you guys use to handle ssh keys in a business infrastructure?05:51
grv11pls let me know05:52
grv11i want to use it05:52
grv11tell me the steps,I will save for future refrences05:52
kostkon!compile | grv11, you could start from here05:53
ubottugrv11, you could start from here: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall05:53
baywordsOh okay thank you  krytarik05:53
krytarikSure.05:54
grv11ok thanks kostkon for the information ,I m checking05:55
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chalcednywhere in ubuntu 16.04 does libre office keep its files?06:08
chalcednyhubby updated his libre office, but there is no writer06:09
hitman1I heard today that get from 'apt-get' is removed in new versions of ubuntu ?06:13
marvin2how do I prevent alt+tab in ubuntu from grouping together multiple windows and instances of the same programr?06:13
spookedgalIs anyone free to give me a hand with a wifi issue? realtek drivers/16.04 Thanks :)06:14
Ben64spookedgal: the way it works is you describe your issue and if someone can help and wants to, they will06:15
spookedgalThanks Ben6406:16
spookedgalMy wifi is able to connect for maximum 1sec and drops out immediately. wlp4s0    IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any06:19
spookedgal          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=20 dBm06:19
spookedgal          Retry short limit:7   RTS thr=2347 B   Fragment thr:off06:19
spookedgal          Power Management:off06:19
spookedgal 06:19
andrew_Hello06:21
dharmahi06:21
dharmahey06:21
andrew_((new linux user))06:21
andrew_how do I check by grub version?06:21
andrew_I installed ubuntu mate but this grub is a little weird compared to the classic06:22
diskindpkg -l|grep grub06:22
dharmahttps://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjNt6u49LTTAhXCNo8KHdKjCf4QFggjMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F107486%2Fhow-to-know-the-version-of-grub&usg=AFQjCNGitYIZesVF4giTgsqKwnzYWeZubw06:22
diskinthis is just one way of doing that :)06:22
dharmadiskin06:22
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dharmado you know how to disable network adapter06:23
andrew_diskin, thank you06:23
andrew_2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.906:23
andrew_is this an updated and ghood version?06:23
diskinyes06:23
andrew_Is there a way to have it with the classic gui06:23
andrew_instead of fancy one?06:23
dharmahey06:24
andrew_I dont know if all ubuntu distro have this one06:24
andrew_but linux mint had the classic one06:24
diskindharma, check ifdown command06:24
grv11can i clock my pc in ubuntu ?is this safe?06:25
andrew_How to highlight your name in green in this Hex version? I used to press tab but this time appears a comma and not : and green06:25
masberhi06:26
masberhow could I rename a bond interface?06:26
sweet-jamhello06:26
dharmahi06:37
FreddyPhi06:38
dharmado you know how to deal probllems with network adapter06:39
FreddyPwhat kind of issue do you have ?06:40
dharmamy wifi adapter(inbuilt) is damaged06:44
dharmaso i had an usb adapter06:44
dharmabut both drivers are crossing06:44
dharmathey are not conncecting to router06:44
FreddyPdo you have ifconfig installed06:45
FreddyPif you do you can bring down the offending network interface06:45
hitman1FreddyP: Here is op of ifconfig from dharma - https://paste.pound-python.org/show/GZaez0SKe0bMy28M0jEo/06:46
FreddyPso therefore you can       ifdown wlp7s006:48
FreddyPassuiming wlp7s0 is the broken interface06:48
hitman1FreddyP: how you know that wlp7s0 is the broken one ?06:49
FreddyPi dont it was just an example to show the syntax06:50
dharmayes06:50
dharmaits broken06:50
FreddyPmost built in wifi adapters on laptops are identified with wlpXXX name06:52
* FreddyP needs coffee06:54
dharmaits not working06:54
FreddyPdid you usign ifconfig to bring down the inteface that is not working07:02
ko_loo/07:09
ko_loI'm playing around with upstart, I think I missed something, is there a specific command to "register" a script so it can be triggered by events or even using initctl?07:10
abolfazlhi.I run a startup.sh file,it run's another file in it self.the output of this .sh file is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24425294/ .the catalina.sh file is in it folder next to the this file.I think there is a problem in startup.sh fil.this file content is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24425242/ .(sorry for my bad english)07:11
singalautJ #gentoo07:22
t_where am i07:22
t_i don't even know what im doing07:22
t_lol07:22
t_i am getting out07:22
ko_loI don't get it, I have my script owned to my user, in ~/.config/upstart, chmod+x, in the correct format but I get initctl: Invalid job class: save07:24
ko_lo(my script is here : https://0bin.net/paste/zaUN7E9bb+v1jcyC#A4Pb7ubYX2CkBI9kt4fiN1dLQB46ifxq6apOWGuOULe )07:24
pratnHi07:31
ko_loinit-checkconf gave me a syntax ok07:34
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egonsenhi! when launching a certain program, i get this error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/xml/bind/annotation/XmlSchema. i thought that i had to install libjaxb-java, which contains this class. i did so, but i am still getting this error. any ideas what i could do t osolve this?07:51
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jotauverHi!!08:17
jotauverhi, I've two files (A and B), every file has a list of md5sum. I want to know the files that are in file A and not in B08:23
jotauversome idea?08:23
Ben64jotauver: diff08:25
geirhacomm08:26
geirhajotauver: See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/03608:27
Ben64geirha: neat08:27
jotauverthanks!!!08:28
vincenzomlHi there; since when I upgraded to ubuntu 17.04 from 16.10 on a mac mid-2010, I can no longer create a wifi hotspot (which worked like a charm previously). Here is the pastebin for syslog, can someone help? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24425539/08:28
potatoes_I have a bash script running:  aws autoscaling set-instance-health --instance-id #{INSTANCE_ID} –-health-status Unhealthy but when I try to run it, weird characters show up in the output08:29
potatoes_and the command doesn''t execute properly08:29
vincenzomliwlist scan works fine, so I assume the card is working08:29
potatoes_err $INSTANCE_ID sorry.08:29
ducassepotatoes_: check the locale08:33
vincenzomlHi, my connection closed and I didn't notice, sorry, I had asked about this pastebin https://paste.ubuntu.com/24425539/ with the log of failing creation of wifi hotspot on ubuntu 17.04 after upgrade08:47
vincenzomldon't know if anyone replied08:47
vincenzoml_Hi again; keeping disconnecting by mistake08:48
lotuspsychjevincenzoml_: system up to date? wifi chipset please?08:49
vincenzoml_lotuspsychje: updated 5 packages just now, so I will reboot and come back with further info08:50
ricardhola a todos08:53
lotuspsychje!es | ricard08:53
ubotturicard: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.08:53
ricardquisiera hacer una pregunta08:53
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bazhang#ubuntu-es ricard for spanish08:54
ricard__hola08:56
bazhang#ubuntu-es ricard__08:56
bazhanghere is english ricard__08:56
ricard__thankyou08:57
vincenzomllotuspsychje: system updated; lspci says "03:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)"08:57
martyixIs there a web list of existing snaps? (https://snapcraft.io/)08:57
jotauvergeirha:  I am trying now the comm command but I've some problem. I've two file list, the md5sum is the same in some lines but the path not, so.. the comm always return empty08:57
bazhangmartyix, try #snappy08:57
martyixbazhang: tx08:58
PCatineanWhat unix command would take all the files inside a directory with the extension .tmpl and mash them up into one single file?09:02
vincenzomlPCatinean: cat *.tmpl > newfilename.tmpl ?09:03
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PCatineanhmm that simple? XD09:03
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vincenzomlI really need to restore the wifi hotspot, sorry for asking again, anyone experienced problems with creating these after upgrading to 17.04?09:04
PCatineanvincenzoml, you're a genius!09:04
* PCatinean huggles09:04
vincenzomlPCatinean:  :)09:04
PCatineanvincenzoml, sorry no experience there. The only thing that comes close was my wifi card being very unstable with the update to 16.04. This turned out to be a problem because of the battery saver mode it had on by default09:05
jinkvincenzoml: I wouldn't do that in the same directory if it's the same extension.  Just to be sure. ^__^09:05
PCatineanthat and some shady drivers caused inconsistencies09:05
vincenzomljink: some things must be learned from experience :)09:05
PCatineanjink, what do you mean? :))09:05
geirhajotauver: Ah, so only considering parts of the lines, then I'd go with awk. the md5sums are at the start of each line?09:06
vincenzomlthat if "newfilename.tmpl" exists, it gets overwritten with no undo09:06
vincenzomland that if you run the command again, I think it could double the contents of the file09:06
jinkvincenzoml: That, or let's append the file to itself, depending on when or if newfilename.tmpl is resolved by *.tmpl.09:07
hateballIf you want to append, you use >> when redirecting09:07
vincenzomljink: but neither happens on 17.04 at least! cat complains that the input file coincides with the output file and does not proceed09:07
jinkvincenzoml: Ah, nice. :)09:08
geirhajotauver: awk 'FNR==NR{ a[$1] = $0; next} { delete a[$1] } END { for (k in a) print a[k] }' fileA fileB09:09
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ducassevincenzoml: problems with the ath9k driver seem to be common on zesty, can you try both older and newer kernels?09:10
vincenzomlhmmmm I knew I shouldn't have upgraded ... :) ducasse what's "newer" than what I have after dist-upgrade?09:11
vincenzomland what's really older?09:11
ducasse!mainline | vincenzoml09:11
ubottuvincenzoml: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds09:11
ducassevincenzoml: for older try the last era that worked for you, 4.4 or 4.8 i'd guess09:11
naskeliI have an .ovpn file09:14
naskeliis there any way I can directly import it without specifying certs and stuff?09:14
naskelithe certs are embedded within the .ovpn file09:14
naskeliI would like to use network-manager09:14
vincenzomlducasse: reading the log carefully I saw that there was a complaint about dnsmasq executable missing; I ran sudo apt-get install dnsmasq and now everything works09:15
vincenzomlguess it's a bug to report09:15
naskeliusing openvpn to start the tunnel works fine09:15
naskeliI just don't get any certs when I import the vpn09:15
ducassevincenzoml: please do, zesty switched from dnsmasq to systemd-resolved, so that's probably the reason.09:16
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vincenzomlhow do I report a bug nowadays... I get redirected to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs09:18
ducasse!bug09:19
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.09:19
naskelilame, network-manager bug :(09:19
Lukkerchecking for pcre-config... false configure: error: pcre-config for libpcre not found. PCRE is required and available from http://pcre.org/09:20
Lukkeri get this error when i try to install apache2 from source code09:21
ducasseLukker: why aren't you using apache from the repos?09:22
Lukkercan anyone help me with that? I am ubuntu server 16.1009:23
ducasseLukker: if you answer the question, maybe i can.09:24
Lukkeri have a school task where it requires that i install the apache2 from source code09:26
Lukker#ducasse09:26
Lukker#ducasse  : i did downloaded the apr and apr-util and pcre files extract them and all seemed to work fine ,until now09:29
blackflowLukker: you could install apache2 from deb-src, it should pull in all the buildtime dependencies, which is what you need. There may be additional deps if the versions from deb-src and what you're installing are different.09:29
Lukkeri can not do that #blackflow. I know that that it would be much easier but i need to do it the hard way because of a school task09:30
blackflowthen why are you asking here for help? :)09:31
blackflowI think there's #apache here on Freenode where you can ask about apache specific problems.09:31
Lukkerwell , i am almost done with the installation. I was looking for a tip regarding the pcre file09:32
blackflowLukker: and btw # is a channel prefix on irc, not username09:32
ducasseLukker: it's not really our job to do your schoolwork :) hint: apt-file09:32
Lukkerthanks , i am new here so i am still learning :)09:33
Lukker#apache09:33
blackflowLukker: /j #apache09:33
Lukkerof course :) /j09:33
Lukker# /j #apache09:34
bazhangLukker, #httpd09:34
PCatineanjink, and what if it is in the same directory, you pipe and grep or?09:34
ducassePCatinean: he meant he wouldn't put the output file in the same dir if it had the same extension: 'cat *.tmpl > /tmp/newfile.tmpl'09:37
jinkPCatinean: Don't do it in the same directory, or specify all input files.09:37
PCatineanducasse, yes but what if I need to?09:37
PCatineanmaybe exclude the final one from the *.tmpl selection09:38
jink"need" is a strong word.  You can do it elsewhere and then move the result.09:38
jinkAnd keep in mind that with "cat *.tmpl" you can't specify the order.09:38
ducassePCatinean: does it need to have the same extension?09:39
Lukkerthank you bazhang09:39
Lukker#apache channel is not available09:39
ducasseLukker: it's called #httpd iirc09:39
PCatineanjink, it shouldn't be important in this case (the order)09:40
jinkPCatinean: Ok.09:44
headrefhi09:50
headrefhow do I change my default editor , and also view which is my default text editor currently?09:50
ducasseheadref: for gui or cli?09:52
headrefcli09:52
headrefvim09:53
ducasseset the EDITOR env variable09:53
bossieAnybody know how to use neard NCI over uart?09:53
headrefducasse: but how do I view echo $EDITOR is null ?09:54
headrefand where to set I forgot it09:54
headrefok sudoers I think, but where09:55
ducasseheadref: it's unset by default. put 'export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim' in .bashrc09:55
headrefok09:55
headrefducasse: but how do i view what's my current editor09:55
headrefwhy does echo $EDITOR return null ?09:55
headrefas it's vim set in the file of sudoers09:56
ducasseheadref: i just told you, it's unset by default. what you set in sudoers is probably only what is used by visudo.09:56
headrefDefaults        env_reset,editor=/usr/bin/vim:/usr/bin/vi09:57
headrefducasse: ahh09:57
ducasseheadref: ok, so it exports that in sudo sessions. it does not affect normal sessions, though.09:58
headrefbut shall i write editor in capital letters or small letters, as important inbuilt variables, can make a difference09:58
headrefok caps09:58
headrefshall I put a semicolon, as /usr/bin/vim:/usr/bin/vi in the export editor varialble09:59
headrefbut it has become a single sstring ducasse10:00
ducassethat's not a semicolon, but write it like i wrote it10:00
headrefalong with semicolon included10:00
headrefok10:01
headrefso that's a colon : , and semicolon is ;10:01
headrefBut what how do i change my other default applications too, the same way in ~/.bashrc ?10:02
ducasseheadref: what other applications?10:02
headreflike GUI applications10:02
ducasseheadref: that's done by your desktop environment, normally.10:03
rizonzdoes anyone know why I cannot ifdown a nic ? it's specified but it replies with...10:03
rizonz~# ifdown eth110:03
rizonzifdown: interface eth1 not configured10:03
rizonzbut eth1 is configured10:03
headrefducasse: ok, so should be done by default startup applications, so should be easy, as ubuntu is.10:03
ducasseheadref: you can set $BROWSER and $TERMINAL, but not everything obeys them10:04
ducasserizonz: is it configured in /etc/network/interfaces?10:04
rizonzducasse: sure10:09
rizonzducasse: it's also up10:09
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MrElendigheadref: also ~/.config/mimeapps.list10:14
MrElendigalso don't run your editor as root, use sudoedit or similar10:14
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rizonzducasse: no clue ?10:20
lotuspsychjerizonz: best way to get your issue solved, is to re-ask your question all in one line to the channel10:22
ducasserizonz: what does 'ip a sh dev eth1' say?10:22
rizonzducasse: https://pastebin.com/4ntdLFAS10:23
ducasserizonz: what about /run/network/ifstate?10:24
rizonzducasse: permission denied ?10:26
ducasserizonz: sudo cat /run/network/ifstate10:27
rizonzducasse: get nothing back10:27
ducasserizonz: ok, so something has forced that and other interfaces down, it seems. you can try ifdown --force, or reboot.10:28
K_K_Nhi all, I am now stuck, I connected an HP PSC 1315 to my ubuntu computer and when I initially plug it in and power it on it shows up under lsusb in terminal but after a few seconds it disappears and sometimes if I continue running lsusb in terminal it will appear then suddenly disappear again10:29
rizonzducasse: weird, my nics just work fine tho10:30
K_K_NI installed the HP software for ubuntu so now I am not sure which is the problem the printer or ubuntu?10:30
lotuspsychjeK_K_N: can you tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugout/in your printer to see usefull errors10:30
SimonNLK_K_N: does it happen on all usb ports?10:30
ducasserizonz: can you pastebin the interfaces file?10:30
K_K_NSimonNL, yes10:31
K_K_Nok lotuspsychje let me do that10:31
rizonzdinet: sure10:31
rizonzducasse: ^10:31
rizonzducasse: https://pastebin.com/MYmaWyWJ10:32
rizonzI have manually commented auto eth110:32
[vbm]hi there, after the news ubuntu will drop unity for gnome next year I decided to give it a go now and installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop. I quite like it but for some reason, when I log into gnome, pulseaudio deamon fails to load. If I log into unity, i have no problems. If I log into unity, log off and then into gnome, neither. But If i log into gnome straight after turning my computer on or rebooting, I get no sound. Does anybody have an idea10:32
[vbm]of what could be the problem / point me in the right direction? I have a fair bit of googling without any luck and, needless to say, my skills are quite modest10:32
ducasserizonz: remove either 'auto eth0' or 'allow-hotplug eth0', and uncomment 'auto eth1'10:34
rizonzducasse: can do, but why ?10:34
lotuspsychje!sound | [vbm]10:34
ubottu[vbm]: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.10:34
lotuspsychje[vbm]: dmesg logs show anything usefull on audio?10:34
ducasserizonz: because what you have now is incorrect?10:35
K_K_Nlotuspsychje, can I paste the results somewhere so you can interpret for me?10:35
EriC^^++10:36
rizonzducasse: heh seems so but why is it incorrect ?10:36
lotuspsychjeK_K_N: hastebin it plz?10:37
ducasserizonz: you can't have both auto and allow-hotplug for the same interface, and all interfaces need an auto/allow-hotplug - see 'man interfaces'10:38
[vbm]lotuspsychje: dmesg only shows issues with mei_txe (whatever that is) and lots of complaints about rtl8723bs (my wifi chip). syslog typically show multiple attempts to start the daemon and failing. My machine is a cheap 2-in-1 baytrail and I'm running 17.04 on a 4.11-rc5 kernel10:38
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[vbm]ubottu: the applet normally shows the slider but no speaker next to it until I manage to start pulseaudio. once I do, i can play mp3 using aplay without problems. I checked the ubuntu sites you mentioned. will try alsa's10:40
ubottu[vbm]: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:40
lotuspsychje[vbm]: did this work on other ubuntu version? tried to boot another kernel?10:41
necrophcodr_I've got a problem on Ubuntu 14.04.5 with os-prober being unable to detect a different system i have10:42
K_K_Nlotuspsychje, thanks I have pasted https://paste.ubuntu.com/24426073/10:43
necrophcodr_I've installed a distribution with a btrfs filesystem, but update-grub won't detect it.10:43
ducasseK_K_N: why aren't you running the ubuntu-supplied kernel?10:43
ducasse[vbm]: ^^10:43
ducasseK_K_N: sorry, wrong tab10:44
[vbm]lotuspsychje: I only managed to get sound to work on this machine recently, after finding a post with an ucm config. 4.11-rc5 significantly improved my system's stability.10:44
lotuspsychjeK_K_N: seems alot of usb errors, did you try some other ports?10:44
K_K_Nducasse, not sure what you mean I donwloaded from ubuntu site and installed and just did the updates when ever it prompted me to do so?10:44
ducasseK_K_N: i sent to the wrong nick, sorry10:45
[vbm]ducasse: I downloaded the kernel from ubuntu's mainline, the current default isn't great with baytrail10:45
ducasse[vbm]: be aware that the mainline kernels are meant for testing only, and totally unsupported10:46
K_K_Nlotuspsychje, I only have 3 and tried all of them I can do it again with the comman you gave me and paste again but will have to disconnect cause my USB modem is plugged into one of them10:46
K_K_Nducasse, no worries10:46
K_K_Nlotuspsychje, I will do that be back in a bit10:46
[vbm]ducasse: thanks. I don't seem to have a sound problem on unity, so I'm assuming there is some difference in the way unity and gnome start10:47
doithi,my irc server has build and it is running in back ,how to use the client connect it ?thanks10:48
doithelp me10:48
lotuspsychjedoit: this channel is for ubuntu support10:48
bazhangdoit which ircd10:48
ikoniadoit: you're running an IRC server but you don't know how to connect to it ?10:48
doitsorry10:49
bcx`sudo do-release-upgrade -d` only shows yakkety, where is zesty ?10:49
bcxfrom xenial10:49
bazhang /msg alis list yourircd doit10:49
doiti can't find body teach me10:49
ducassebcx: you can't go straight to zesty10:49
ikoniateach you what ?10:49
bazhangfind the channel for it that way doit10:49
ducassebcx: you need to upgrade to yakkety first, and you don't need (and shouldn't use) -d10:50
doiti don't find my chatroom10:51
bazhangdoit which ircd10:51
bcxthx ducasse, what a pity i have to download 1GB more10:51
doitircd-hybrid10:52
doitsorry  let me find again10:54
K_K_Nback10:55
rizonzducasse: ok thanks10:56
K_K_Nlotuspsychje, what id did was unplug everything, I ran the command and then plugged printer into each usb port, waited for the output to stop then changed the USB port after trying all 3 I disconnect the printers usb cable plugged my wireless mouse and then my 3G modem10:57
K_K_Nlotuspsychje, I then copied and pasted that info https://paste.ubuntu.com/24426135/10:57
K_K_Nlotuspsychje, oh I forgot the last bit of info will probably be when I connected to the 3G network11:01
BluesKajHowdy folks11:02
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morsnowskihi11:05
cperrin88Hey, I keep pulling my hair over a samba issue. I use Samba for shares. That works, but I need to create a folder that is not viewable by everyone. Whenever I disallow Everyone from viewing a folder even the owner get's access denied.11:12
cperrin88I can block specific users just fine.11:12
cperrin88Has anyone got a clue?11:12
MustaKrakishcperrin88, force use = <user>11:19
MustaKrakish*user11:19
cperrin88MustaKrakish: And then? I don't want to the whole share to be accessed by only one user. I just want users to be able to protect their own folders.11:20
MustaKrakishcperrin88, where are the directories? are they ~ folders?11:20
K_K_Nlotuspsychje, any ideas?11:22
K_K_Nor maybe somebody else?11:22
cperrin88They are just normal forlders on the share and I want to use the windows permission system to work as expected. I can deny acces to the folder for specific users, but as soon as I set the "Everyone" group to denied, no one can access the folder, even though the users I gave access to specifically.11:23
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MustaKrakishcperrin88, that's working as expected then, if you deny everyone, then no one will have access11:24
MustaKrakishif you want to differentiate by read/write then maybe use ACLs11:24
jldawsonNot imagined spectacular11:24
cperrin88I use ACLs11:24
MustaKrakishif users belong to groups, set access on a group level11:25
jldawsonHow many people are learning ubuntu?11:26
K_K_Nlotuspsychje, ok what I will do is go use an internet cafe for now, you can pm me if I need to maybe just buy a new printer cause its a new USB cable cause originally we thought it was the cable or if you think its my laptop then I guess a either one will need to be replace but if its a setting of some sort then you can pm me the solution11:27
K_K_Nlotuspsychje, thanks for your help11:27
jldawsonSee you here today and come back next time11:34
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necrophcodr_I've installed a distribution with a btrfs filesystem, but update-grub won't detect it.11:37
necrophcodr_Anyone?11:37
ikoniawhat distro11:37
ikoniaand why are you running update grub11:37
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necrophcodr_ikonia, sabayon. I'm using Xubuntu 16.04 and want to be able to dual boot.11:38
Guest99028is here anyone who has iodine experience and could help me out a little bit?11:38
ikonianecrophcodr_: so this isn't an ubuntu problem then11:39
necrophcodr_Ubuntu and Xubuntu are my workstation distributions. I use those primarily. But for testing, I want to be able to dual boot.11:39
ikonianecrophcodr_: this isn't an ubuntu problem11:39
necrophcodr_Yes it is, because Ubuntu is supposed to detect it.11:39
necrophcodr_Should I ask in some grub or os-prober channel then?11:39
ikonianecrophcodr_: you need to look at how btrfs works and sharing pools11:39
necrophcodr_Ubuntu isn't installed with Btrfs.11:40
ikonianecrophcodr_: no, but the OS you think it should detect is11:40
mcphailnecrophcodr_: I may be misremembering, but I think you have to have btrfs-tools installed11:40
necrophcodr_ikonia, i already have btrfs-tools installed on both systems, but is it not possible for os-prober to detect something like this?11:40
ikonianecrophcodr_: update-grub will write to the mbr of a disk - it's nothing to do with other os's11:41
necrophcodr_update-grub will execute `grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg`11:41
necrophcodr_I don't think it installs grub at all.11:41
ikonianecrophcodr_: os prober needs to be able to see the file systems of the other devices or a boot map11:41
ikonianecrophcodr_: it doesn't install grub at all, no11:42
ikoniathat was bad wording on my part11:42
necrophcodr_how do i get os-prober to see other filesystems? it's the same disk11:42
necrophcodr_different partition11:42
ikonianecrophcodr_: can your ubuntu box see the btrfs pool11:42
necrophcodr_yes, and it wants to mount it using my filemanager. the other partition shows on my desktop.11:42
ikonianecrophcodr_: so if you manually call os-prober, what does it see11:43
necrophcodr_there's no output at all11:43
necrophcodr_`sudo os-prober` yields no output11:43
FreddyPafter many hours and days to stop Ubuntu's stupid dns stub server and give control back to the network manager.  I gave up none of the hacks worked apart from dirty hack to manually edit /etc/resolv.conf.  It makes Ubuntu stupid on networks that have their own DNS server and want it to have FQDN11:43
FreddyPi gave up and went back to Debian which does it properly11:43
ikoniaFreddyP: it means you don't know how to use it properly11:44
FreddyPikonia: tell me now then11:44
FreddyPIn Debian I just enter my own dns settings and confgire a search domain bang it worked right away11:45
ikoniaFreddyP: I have no idea of the state of your system, or the detail of what you're trying to archieve other than a few high level comments11:45
ikoniaFreddyP: you're not using debian, so what does that matter11:45
FreddyPi am now11:45
hanshenriki think i found a bug, `libuser` is not a dependency of `system-config-samba` , but if you try to start `system-config-samba` without libuser installed, it will just crash with the message SystemError: could not open configuration file `/etc/libuser.conf': No such file or directory11:45
blackflowFreddyP: I solved my ubuntu DNS issues by forcing the config of /etc/systemd/resolved.conf11:45
FreddyPyes that was the drity hack11:46
ikonianecrophcodr_: so thats what you need to investiage first11:46
hanshenrikso, when you `apt install system-config-samba` , apt should install libuser, too11:46
blackflowFreddyP: as of 16.10 my usual custom setups with local DNS and a list of domains for "search" stopped working via NetworkManager setup for connection, had to force it via that config11:46
blackflowFreddyP: and with 17.04, systemd-resolved is the only resolver (16.10 has it in combo with dnsmasq if I'm not mistaken)11:47
ioriahanshenrik, i think they are 2 pkgs: libuser1 and python-libuser11:47
FreddyPblackflow: yes i figured that out but did not want the headache11:47
FreddyPso I got Debian 9  and all is well11:48
blackflowFreddyP: well, powerusing Ubuntu comes with a does of headache :)11:48
blackflowyeah I switched my desktop over do Stretch too when nvidia borkage on 16.10 became too much to bear.11:48
FreddyPUbuntu should have any easy option to reliquish control from dnsmasq and give it back to the network manager11:49
necrophcodr_ikonia, that's what i've been looking into. i couldn't solve it myself, so here i am.11:49
blackflowFreddyP: I though NM was always using dnsmasq? Does NM have resolving capabilties?11:49
ioriahanshenrik, system-config-samba depends on  python-libuser and this one depends on libuser111:50
hanshenrikioria, oh kk11:50
FreddyPblackflow: NM does not , It should be simple enter you companies DNS server,   but it should resovle FQDN on the netowrk but no it does not11:51
alensapthks11:52
blackflowFreddyP: ah from what I see it has dnsmasq built in, at least on Stretch11:57
modleshey all12:00
modleshow can i verify that usb is all working and happy, drivers wise etc?12:01
blackflowmodles: you can check via dmesg if there's any error or complaint when you plug it in12:01
modlesits showing up fine in lsusb, but not working12:02
ioria!info usbview12:02
ubottuusbview (source: usbview): USB device viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-21-g6fe2f4f-1ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 230 kB, installed size 720 kB12:02
LangleyHelp, I can't get Japanese text input to work in Ubuntu Gnome 16.04. I've installed  fcitx and mozc, but fcitx doesn't have any option for fcitx or japanese or anything12:06
modlesi get unable to init server if i do usbview12:06
modlesweird12:06
modlesUnable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused12:08
ioriamodles, gksu usbview12:09
modles(gksu:1682): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:12:09
bonsaitreeHow do i bring a wireless network interface down via terminal?12:09
ioriamodles, gksu gedit12:09
scottjlbonsaitree: ifconfig wlan0 down (or whatever the interface is)12:10
modlesbonsaitree: sudo ifconfig wlan0 down12:10
modlesioria:  same result12:10
bonsaitreescottjl, modles , Isn't that for a wired interface only?12:10
ioriamodles, so you have other problems12:10
modlesis there a different way i can check usb?12:10
scottjlbonsaitree: any network interface12:10
bonsaitreescottjl, Well it doesn't work then, i've already tried that12:11
modlesbonsaitree:  pastebin us the output of ifconfig12:11
scottjlbonsaitree: sudo ip link set wlan0 down12:12
scottjlif you don't have ifconfig12:12
ioriathat ^12:12
bonsaitreemodles:Turns out it doesn't refresh the state appropriately, tried to connect to a network and now it states that the interface is down. Thanks anyway12:12
EriC^^"'12:13
modlesi know its a driver issue i just cant figure out what12:14
FreddyPblackflow: on debian 9 my /erc/resolve.conf   # Generated by NetworkManager  nameserver 192.168.1.1012:15
FreddyPyeah correctly powered by the network manager as it should be12:15
bonsaitreemodles:Where should i search for the module loaded for the /n wi-fi adapter that i inserted? Am i able to edit its .conf file as i was able with the iwlwifi?12:17
scottjlbonsaitree: check dmesg and look for usb insertion. module name should be around there12:17
bonsaitreescottjl, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24426450/12:20
bonsaitreescottjl, Can't see the module name12:20
modlesoutput of dmesg http://sprunge.us/fEeb12:20
scottjllsmod and post that12:20
modlesdamn im using screen, and cant get all the output of lsmod12:24
scottjllsmod > /tmp/foo12:24
bonsaitreemodles, scottjl , http://paste.ubuntu.com/24426466/12:24
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scottjlok so there's your module. google "rt2800usb module options" and start reading. are you looking for something in particular?12:26
modleshttps://pastebin.com/eRugDJZE12:26
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bonsaitreescottjl, I want to experiment with this adapter too, since i am getting the same speeds with the Tenda as i am getting with the 6200-N which we fixed yesterday. The speeds are overlapping, want to see if i can make the Tenda perform better by tweaking something.12:27
modlesi cant see anything usb related in my lsmod12:28
scottjlbonsaitree: i'm not finding much in the way of documentation for module options for that driver12:31
bonsaitreescottjl, Me neither12:31
pandinushello12:34
pandinusanybody here experimenting with LINE Messenger??12:34
pandinusnope12:35
scottjlthis is more the ubuntu support channel, not line messenger channel.12:36
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backbox680hello12:37
backbox680bib12:38
bonsaitreescottjl, Nope, it turns out that as soon as i connect to a wireless network with the second (USB Tenda) wireless interface, the built in Intel 6200-N activates automatically. I've tried with 1) ifconfig wlan0 down and 2) ip link set wlan0 down.12:50
bonsaitreeAnd i don't want them both active in the same time.12:51
scottjlbonsaitree: ifconfig -a should list each interface with it's name. you need to turn the intel one off and the other one on. they shouldn't be linked, unless network manager is doing it.12:52
scottjlbonsaitree: if you're using network manager, don't try the command line, if you're using the command line, don't use network manager, they will clash with each other12:52
bonsaitreescottjl, Alright12:55
kashakaWhat was the name of that game that improves short term memory? Blink, Blinx, Blint?13:00
bonsaitreeLol, disabling the Wi-Fi radio in BIOS, disables the overall ability of using wireless in any case (additional wireless adapters won't work too). Why is the system developed in such a way?13:05
L00P3XHi ^^ ... how it is that i used to apt-get install Lxde-desktop and now i'm booting up as Lubuntu xD13:05
ducasseL00P3X: which package did you install?13:08
L00P3Xducasse, I used tu sudo apt-get install Lxde-desktop.. and installed it as whole whit all packages.. nothing more13:09
Sinnedjo13:09
ducasseL00P3X: there is no package called lxde-desktop, do you mean lubuntu-desktop?13:10
L00P3Xoh...13:11
L00P3Xducasse, yes :\13:11
ducasseL00P3X: you understand now, then :)13:12
L00P3Xthis was genuine a abuse of terminal of mine13:13
L00P3Xnot that what happened would hurt me as much.. but how could I switch back?13:14
K_K_Nanybody know what this error means and how to solve for ubuntu13:18
K_K_Ndisabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...13:19
dudejiHi it may be very stupid question but  can i create zfs paritition on a working disk , i mean , i already have data in ntfs mode and i want to create a folder and use that folder as zfs ?13:21
scottjlyou can't create a folder and use that as zfs, but you can make a disk partition and use that if you just want to dabble with zfs. i wouldn't use it for anything serious13:22
PipeItToDevNulldudeji, You can touch a file, fllocate it to the size you wan, run makfs on it then mount it as a file system13:22
PipeItToDevNullWow, I cannot type.13:22
L00P3Xdudeji, you could may format as it an usb drive13:22
scottjlyou don't mkfs zfs file systems.13:22
PipeItToDevNullThen ignore me13:23
SchrodingersScatdudeji: I think you basically were asking about this: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/819-5461/gazcr/index.html13:23
scottjlgod no. not oracle's docs.13:23
scottjlhttp://zfsonlinux.org/13:23
scottjlhttps://pthree.org/2012/04/17/install-zfs-on-debian-gnulinux/13:24
scottjlthat second link is VERY useful13:24
SchrodingersScatthe point is that yes you can use files as devices, but it's not recommended13:24
scottjli use zfs on a 16.04 server with 35tb of data.13:24
dudejii was looking for like : i already have data in my partition which is ntfs , can i somehow safely use ntfs partition and create zfs on a folder and allocate some size and use that.13:24
scottjlsome year i'll change it over to btrfs13:24
scottjldudeji, why would you want to?13:25
scottjlzfs is a file system, it isn't a.. folder13:25
dudejii was just not willing to create on more disk paritition13:25
scottjlbut what's your intention?13:25
SchrodingersScatdudeji: it would use files not folders, and the answer is yes, but not recommended because then you have to rely on ntfs, which is a :( fs13:25
scottjldudeji: what is it you're trying to accomplish?13:27
dudejii have install DalmatinerDB and it requires zfs only13:28
scottjlahh13:28
scottjlyeah. you really need to set up a disk partition with zfs13:29
scottjlif you're just testing, you could use a usb drive if you can't use any sort of internal drive. performance would be poor.13:29
scottjlwhy are you using ntfs on linux? or you're not even running linux?13:30
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root____1hi how are you ,everybody .13:38
lotuspsychjeroot____1: best not join irc as root13:39
blackflowscottjl: PipeItToDevNull: it should be possible to mount a file as loopback device, which is basically a block device and it should be usable for ZFS13:45
blackflowit would need to be pre-created for wanted size13:45
transhumananyone know why installing packages in ubuntu would be real slow...seems like it works just real slow13:46
scottjlblackflow: yeah, maybe for testing around. but i certainly wouldn't use it for anything serious13:46
blackflowalso, ZFS on Linux is quite stable and production ready. As with any other filesystem, proper backups are in order.13:46
HitmanAnonymusGood morning13:46
blackflowscottjl: sure, the performance would kill13:46
lotuspsychjetranshuman: getting any errors?13:46
blackflowespecially ZFS on a file loopback on NTFS :)13:46
scottjli've been using zfs on my home server for 8 years now.13:47
blackflow(I think a kitten died just by typing that out)13:47
transhumanwhat log would they be in lotuspsychje13:47
scottjldumped lvm and never looked back.13:47
logikosHi, I am a long term mint user who purchased a dell laptop with ubuntu on it (unity de) and things are not working as I expected.  for example when i do 'sudo apt-get install sshfs' I get E: Package 'sshfs' has no installation candidate'13:47
blackflowscottjl: I've been using it on FreeBSD for over a year and on Linux as of Xenial13:47
lotuspsychjetranshuman: what kind of things showed up when you installed?13:47
PipeItToDevNullscottjl, I use a loop device that has a LUKS on it for my cloud storage on a VPS without issue13:48
logikosso i opend up some software manager and tried to install hexchat or xchat so that I could come here and it failed because of dependencies ... so now i'm on my old mint laptop chating with you13:48
transhumanI am in the middle of an upgrade from one version to second to latest the second was slow but succeeded13:48
logikosobviously I am missing something ... where do i start please?13:48
scottjlblackflow: i've been debating converting over to btrfs. :-/13:48
transhumanthird seems to be doing the same thing lotuspsychje13:48
lotuspsychjetranshuman: wich version to wich?13:49
blackflowlogikos: sshfs is in universe, do you have the repo enabled?13:49
transhuman15.04 to 16.04 to 17.04 I think13:49
logikosblackflow: yes, i beleive so13:49
scottjlPipeItToDevNull: luks != zfs13:50
blackflowscottjl: don't. I ran it for a year along ZFS (on a different server) for testing. It's awful. Bugs aside, the design decisions are too bad.13:50
PipeItToDevNullscottjl, A file system is a file system, it sees and uses the file all the same13:50
scottjlblackflow: thanks. that's good to know. yeah the fact it's still beta (imho) has kept me from making any sort of move.13:50
scottjlPipeItToDevNull: zfs isn't a "file system"13:50
blackflowscottjl: see also https://wiki.debian.org/Btrfs#WARNINGS13:50
scottjlnot at all in the traditional sense13:50
blackflowscottjl: I'd say it recently reverted to alpha what with the raid breakage13:51
scottjlyeah like i said, the more i read about issues, the more scared i got and i just stopped reading. i'll look again in a year, or two, or three. lol13:52
blackflowscottjl: pretty much the bugs are such that it's "stable" only as a simple fs with no aditional features. basically ext4 CoW13:52
blackflowscottjl: and recently I've read on reddit some horror stories about it completely breaking after power failure and hard reset13:52
blackflowso... no thanks, for me :)13:52
logikosodd, I had universe but not main enabled ... i assumed (obviously foolish of me) that main would have been enabled by default lol13:52
scottjlwell i don't use many of the features. i use it for media storage and a floating pool vs. fixed partition sizes (this is basically a plex server)13:52
logikosthings are working better now13:52
scottjl(though i'm using now on a production foreman/katello/puppet master at work for katello storage)13:53
blackflowscottjl: single drives or some kind of raid?13:53
scottjlat home? 7 drives in a single pool13:53
LukePattersonHow can i locate webcamera-kernel-module on Linux?13:54
scottjl1 hot spare13:54
blackflowscottjl: but what raid level?13:54
scottjlz+113:54
blackflowscottjl: ah you're talking about ZFS, I thought that was btrfs13:54
scottjlagain. it's media (tv, movies, music). i'm not hugely concerned about taking a hit.13:54
transhumanlotuspsychje, getting this error like a 100,000 times source ID 2300 was not found  when attempting to remove it13:55
scottjlyeah. i'm running ZFS. i was considering converting it over to btrfs, but the more i read about issues the more scared off i got.13:55
scottjloops13:55
imbezolafter upgrading my system from 16.04 to 16.10 my networking stopped working. i see my eth0 was renamed to enp38s0. i've done some reading and understand why and i'm fine with that. however, i can't get it to come online. if i try setting it up in interfaces it says that interface doesn't exist13:55
blackflowscottjl: yeah, a native in-kernel thing would be nicer. I'll check it out too in a few years :)13:56
scottjlimbezol: ifconfig -a13:56
imbezolscottjl: in ifconfig -a it does show it, and i can use it if i manually dhclient it13:56
scottjlimbezol: pastebin your interfaces file?13:56
scottjland your ifconfig while you're at it13:56
imbezolhmm.. tricky without networking13:57
imbezoloh, i'll bring it up manually13:57
scottjlhmm13:57
blackflowenp38? wow, lots of bus there13:58
imbezolscottjl: interestingly, i can work with the interface using ifconfig, but ifdown and ifup return "Unknown interface enp38s0"13:59
imbezolit's like the scripts don't allow that naming scheme13:59
dudejizfs is used by  DalmatinerDB and yes i am using ubuntu.14:00
blackflowimbezol: make sure you're allowing predictable naming completely. see this, section "I don't like it", and apply in reverse:   https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/14:00
elichai2hi, I want to move from Unity to KDE plasma, should I make a fresh install of Kubuntu or it doesn't matter?14:00
blackflowimbezol: reverse = opposite to advices given in those steps, so make sure there's no /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link for example14:00
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scottjlelichai2: if you're not short on disk space, just install plasma-desktop14:01
imbezolblackflow: checked and there's no such file14:01
elichai2scottjl: i'm not(at least not by 1-2GB), but i'm worried about performance, I have my system for ~3 years and I think I got lot's of unused packages, does it affect performance?14:02
scottjldudeji: you could set up a file, mount it via loopback, and set that up as a zfs device, but it would be horrible performance.14:02
scottjlelichai2: unused packages really don't affect performance if you're not using them. it's just some program sitting unused on your disk, taking up space, but that's it usually14:03
L00P3Xi'm sorry.. but where to find the upper application bar where to find "file, view, tool, command, help" over lxde desktop?14:03
scottjlelichai2: like that vitamixer you bought 10 years ago sitting in a closet unused.14:03
elichai2that's if i'm sure that I got no process running there that's deprecated14:04
scottjlwell you can always do a top/htop and see what's taking up cpu and prune what you don't like14:04
scottjlbut if you really want to clean house, yeah, back up anything important, reinstall, restore.14:04
imbezol/etc/systemd/system/networking.service does "ifquery --read-environment --list --exclude=lo" as part of it's ExecStartPre, which returns "Unknown interface enp38s0"14:04
imbezolthis makes me wonder if ubuntu can actually use the interfaces with this naming scheme14:05
elichai2https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mbjamqkb/14:05
imbezolas in, i'm not sure how the networking service could ever succeed in starting14:05
ducasseL00P3X: lxde doesn't have a global menu or whatever it's called, the menu is in the application window14:06
scottjlelichai2: i really couldn't be a good judge of what does and doesn't belong on your system from one little snip. i dont know your server at all14:07
benccwhat the 2 means in 2755 directory mod? is it safe for a font folder?14:07
tgm4883imbezol: FWIW, my 17.04 desktop doesn't return anything when I run that command14:08
imbezoltgm4883: are you using the enp naming scheme?14:08
L00P3Xducasse, somehow is missing in my case.. if i right click or click hexchat icon i can't come over file14:08
elichai2scottjl: hmm ok, and it's a desktop. but thanks. I'm just trying to think if installing fresh really worth all the trouble of backup&restore and re-configuring everything14:08
tgm4883imbezol: enp3s014:08
elichai2and i'm already forgot half of my configurations lol14:08
imbezoltgm4883: and when you run ifdown or ifup does it give an error?14:09
tgm4883imbezol: also, I don't have that file you're talking about. And looking at it, I don't think you should either14:09
ducasseL00P3X: open the hexchat window, you will see the menu14:09
imbezoltgm4883: really... interesting... so what starts your networking?14:09
tgm4883imbezol: well, IIRC systemd startup scripts aren't in that folder unless you added it as an override14:10
L00P3Xducasse, i am on hexchat.. there is no menù.. nowhere14:10
tgm4883imbezol: I do get an unknown interface error14:10
ducasseL00P3X: then i have no clue, sorry.14:10
scottjlelichai2: well it gives you a chance to clean out the crud. ;-)14:11
tgm4883imbezol: the default startup scripts for systemd are in /lib/systemd/system/14:11
gerihi, how can i merge 2 csv files?14:12
tgm4883imbezol: everything in "/etc/systemd/system/" is an override file https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers14:12
gerii tried: awk 'BEGIN { OFS = FS = "," } { n = $NF; sub(/,[^,]*$/,""); sum[$0] += n} END { for (i in sum) print i,sum[i] }' frequency_map*.csv > combined.csv14:13
geribut it doesnt sum col 414:13
L00P3Xducasse, you know how to refresh the lxde? or how to default or something?14:13
ducasseL00P3X: you can try #lubuntu14:14
ikoniarefresh lxde ?14:14
L00P3Xducasse, maybe.. thank you14:14
L00P3Xikonia, the menu bar is missing on my lxde.. over hexchat thers no way to file --> view list14:15
ikoniaL00P3X: just reboot your box14:15
L00P3Xikonia, or everyting else.. the bar is missing14:15
L00P3Xikonia, how to :\14:16
ikoniaL00P3X: sudo reboot14:16
imbezoltgm4883: so the file /etc/systemd/system/network-online.target.wants/networking.service is actually a symlink into /lib/systemd/system/14:16
imbezoland it contains the ifquery part in that file14:16
L00P3Xikoia,  you say?... i will give it a try14:17
vmx32biirrl14:17
benccwhy /usr/share/fonts has mod 0755 while /usr/local/share/fonts/ has mod 2755?14:18
scottjlbencc: so files created in /u/l/s/fonts have gid staff ?14:19
benccscottjl: what does it means? why do I need gid staff? is it less secure to put fonts there?14:20
ducassebencc: see the chmod man page14:21
imbezoltgm4883: so after adding an entry to interfaces for enp38s0 i was able to start the service14:21
benccducasse: I did. still don't understand the difference and security implications if any of having 2755 mod on a font dir14:21
scottjlbencc: no it's not less secure. i guess so anyone else in group staff can copy/modify/remove files in that directory14:21
benccscottjl:thanks14:22
scottjlbecause perms on /usr/local are less "strict" than /usr14:22
scottjlso i guess their thought is to let someone who has "staff" access but not "root" access the ability to modify fonts in that directory14:22
scottjlonly root could modify /usr/share/fonts14:22
scottjlyou could chmod 0755 /usr/local/share/fonts; chown root. /usr/local/share/fonts if you wanted and it should work fine i suppose.14:24
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mdeviHey guys, was legacy (BIOS) install dropped from UB17.04 Desktop?14:29
bonsaitreeHow do i completely wipe a kernel image from the system? Or how do i tell the system explicitly which kernel image to use? Am i allowed to remove a kernel image if i am currently using it (although it may cause the system to crash), with root access?14:29
bonsaitreeTo which system it will "migrate" in a scenario where i am allowed to wipe it if i am using it, after the crash?14:29
bonsaitreeTo which kernel image*14:30
scottjlremoving a currently running kernel is baaaaaad.14:30
mdeviUB17.04 server seems to have a vmlinuz / initrd, Desktop only has vmlinux.efi, I need to legacy PXE boot UB17.04 desktop14:30
Muriido you guys use Skype? Is it safe? I mean does it spy ?14:30
selckindefine spy14:30
ikoniamdevi: it depends what hardware you install on what you get14:30
Muriiselckin, get data from your pc14:31
scottjlbonsaitree: grub controls what kernel you boot into. you should see a selection screen for a few seconds on startup14:31
blackflowMurii: probably :)14:31
mdeviikonia: the ubuntu_desktop-17.04-amd64 image doesnt seem to have a legacy BIOS vmlinuz/initrd to PXE boot14:31
scottjlyou can remove a non-running kernel14:31
ikoniaMurii: skype is a closed source product, no-one in ubuntu will have any more insight you14:31
ikoniamdevi: ahh to pxe boot it14:31
bonsaitreescottjl, I know, but how do i tell the system which will be the initial kernel image that should be used on startup?14:31
blackflowbonsaitree: GRUB_DEFAULT index in /etc/default/grub  iirc14:32
mdeviI can't find anything about it being dropped, and it's there in the ubuntu_server 17.04 image (already tested / working on my PXE server) So I'm wondering if it was dropped...14:32
ikoniamdevi: use the server one (I've not done research into the pxe options for 17.04)14:32
mdevisure thing I'll give it a go :)14:32
ikoniamdevi: it's only for a "pre boot" until you install it, so it shouldn't matter14:33
scottjlbonsaitree: i wouldn't advise changing kernels unless you know what/why you're doing it.14:33
blackflowbonsaitree: seconded, what scottjl said14:34
bonsaitreescottjl, I simply want to use the stable kernel version, because i switched to 4.8 yesterday when we were trying to fix the wifi14:34
scottjlbonsaitree: ah.14:35
bonsaitreescottjl, What? :D14:35
scottjlwhen you boot, do you see the grub load screen?14:35
bonsaitreescottjl, Yes14:35
scottjlbonsaitree: some times it helps to understand what you're trying to accomplish in order to give you the best answer.14:35
skinuxIs there a GUI app that will tell me how much RAM applications are using?14:35
scottjlso boot, go back down to whatever your previous kernel was, the just uninstall the 4.8 one14:35
bonsaitreescottjl, With synaptic?14:36
blackflowskinux: "System Monitor", installed by default on GNOME and Unity systems, should help14:36
scottjlif that's how you installed 4.8, sure14:36
bonsaitreescottjl, Nope, it was via terminal14:36
smokey-screenHello all - Can I ask your opinion of Ubuntus FDE compared to a windows alternative such as Veracrypt FDE - Is it as secure given the correct key length?14:36
skinuxThnks14:37
scottjlok. so whatever command you used on the command line. use purge instead of install14:37
bonsaitreescottjl, But i don't know the "terminal way" of uninstalling a kernel14:37
bonsaitreescottjl, Okay, thanks14:37
scottjli'm guessing you did apt-get install kernel-4.8.whatever right?14:37
scottjlswap out install for purge14:37
bonsaitreescottjl, Can't remember, i will see in the log14:37
scottjlyeah check your history14:37
scottjlhistory | grep -i kernel14:38
blackflowsmokey-screen: I have no idea how strong Veracrypt is, but LUKS ("the" linux disk encryption system) is with default settings.14:38
imbezolseems roxterm is no longer in 17.10. what's a good replacement terminal?14:38
bonsaitreescottjl, Was thinking about irc logs, but that will be faster for sure, did not know that, thanks :)14:38
scottjlnp14:38
evahi14:38
smokey-screenblackflow: With a key of 40 Char + would LUKS be adequate to secure sensitive client and corporate information?14:39
madebymemy Ubuntu don't have gui like gnome what can i do14:40
blackflowsmokey-screen: I'd say yes, we use it like that. aes-xts (default) is pretty secure with such long passphrases14:40
blackflowsmokey-screen: just remember that WrenchSecurity(tm) renders it all weak :)14:41
blackflowsmokey-screen: https://xkcd.com/538/ if you didn't get the ref :)14:41
madebymeplz help me dude14:42
smokey-screenblackflow: Random chars, no dictionary, just reassuring myself of its security. Ive no experience of of Wrench, I shall check out your link, thank you14:42
blackflow:)14:42
bonsaitreeInteresting, since i am using this kernel, the alt+tab process is accompanied by this kind of transition animation, like the video driver is not making a smooth transition: http://cosketch.com/Saved/p8yJQJPy14:43
scottjllol14:43
scottjlwrench > all14:43
blackflowalways :)14:43
smokey-screenblackflow: somewhat comical however it gets the point across! Thank you - I would happily hand over the laptop in the event of a mugging or such, just in case of theft from location etc14:44
ekeeanyone here?14:45
smokey-screenblackflow: thanks for your time + input14:45
ducassesmokey-screen: afaik veracrypt is/was also available for linux14:45
blackflowsmokey-screen: yeah :) It's (LUKS is) very good for situations whn your laptop/disk is stolen, or for servers when they get replaced in case of failure (who knows where they end up).14:45
mdeviikonia: that seems to be working :) cheers14:45
blackflowsmokey-screen: they = disks14:45
ekeei got a question! i have a MSI mobo and when i try install ubuntu budgie it wont work14:46
ekeei got a question! i have a MSI mobo and when i try install ubuntu budgie it wont work14:46
scottjlpoor bird14:46
ekeety scott14:46
rulezzzhi Ill just want to connect to a samba share folder I use Thunar and put smb://ipshare I put Username and Password and nothing14:46
ekee#support14:47
smokey-screenducasse: blackflow: Varacrypt Linux is available for encrypted files but not FDE - Seems LUKS is an appropriate and fulfilling protocol - cheers guys14:48
elichai217.04 is ready to use?14:48
evahow can i get my win10 back by unstalling linux?14:49
compdoceva, were you dual booting?14:49
madebymeeva : simple formats ext partition and format in  primary partition and install windows14:50
madebymentfs patition14:50
madebymewhat14:53
speederhave bizarre problem: every time computer sleeps, LDM stops working14:54
speederhave bizarre problem: every time computer sleeps, LDM stops working14:54
evai use dual booting14:55
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eva:/14:56
EriC^^eva: what's your problem?14:58
evai want to get windows 10 back14:58
EriC^^eva: after you installed linux it disappeared?14:58
evayeah14:58
immueva: explain you want your windows back14:58
eva:(14:58
immuhmm14:58
scottjldid you format your disk and lose it?14:59
evayes14:59
evai think i did that by mistake14:59
immueva:  so you nuked your windows partition14:59
scottjlyou'll have to reinstall it from scratch/recovery14:59
EriC^^eva: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" in your terminal and paste the link it gives you here14:59
compdochave to reinstall win1014:59
eva:(14:59
EriC^^eva: it can be fixed, dont worry14:59
compdocits easy14:59
blackfloweva: do what EriC^^ said first14:59
evak14:59
evahmm15:01
EriC^^?15:01
evaidk15:02
evai dont get it15:02
EriC^^you dont get what?15:02
EriC^^you typed it but no link/ nothing?15:02
immueva:  copy paste the output15:02
immulink15:02
evawait i got my link15:02
eva^^15:02
speederhave bizarre problem: every time computer sleeps, LDM stops working15:03
evai got the link but now what?15:03
EriC^^eva: paste it here15:04
evaok15:04
gnubieEriC^^> the command responded with "use netcat" for me15:04
evahttp://termbin.com/4ls915:04
evathere15:04
eva:)15:04
EriC^^gnubie: it does that for an empty output sometimes15:04
evai want to use windows10 and linux on same pc15:05
EriC^^eva: did you have important information in windows10 that you need?15:05
evaidk15:05
immuInstall Windows10and then Install Ubuntu after that15:05
evai dont know15:05
evai had windows 10 before i installed linux15:06
immuif you have important data you should probably take your pc for data recovery15:06
evaooh15:06
evahow?15:06
immueva:  you must have chosen the first option to erase everything15:06
EriC^^eva: do you want windows back?15:06
evayeah15:06
evayup15:06
evai want it15:06
EriC^^eva: ok, boot a live usb of ubuntu and come back here15:07
evai already got win10 downloaed from official site15:07
evaok15:07
EriC^^it might be corrupted, but you'll get most of the stuff back15:07
immudo you have the key for Windows key or a sticker on your laptop15:07
evano15:07
evai need key15:07
EriC^^i think the key is in the bios now since win8?15:08
immuif your laptop is recent one it won't ask you for it15:08
evaits win1015:08
immuit will be in BIOS15:08
daxUEFI, specifically. But yeah, usually it is.15:08
eva:/15:08
immuyour laptop had windows10 installed when your bought your laptop15:08
evahow can i get live usb of ubuntu?15:08
immuyou make one15:08
evait had cracked win715:09
edward__can I somehow extract linux16 command from 32bit ubuntu into 64bit one ?15:09
dopiwanDoes anyone use PRTG to monitor ubuntu servers?  I was hoping for some suggestions on which sensors will help me monitor system performance including CPU/Memory/Disk/Bandwidth and Network Connections... any suggestions?15:09
eva:(15:09
immuso you don't have a licensed version of Windows15:09
evano i just bought the pc from scrats15:10
blackflowdopiwan: PRTG no, but I use Munin15:10
evai had win7 before win1015:10
eva:)15:10
immudid you install Windows10, was it running when you installed Ubuntu15:11
MshangaoI'm just newbie :D15:11
dopiwanblackflow: does that install on the server itself?  if so, what's the performance overhead like?15:11
MshangaoHello everyone :P15:11
evai want to keep linux and put win10 ;)15:11
immusee even i have windows10 and ubuntu as dual boot15:11
blackflowdopiwan: yes, there's master that collects data and "nodes" that run the metrics when called, default is every 5 minutes15:11
evait was running then i installed linux15:11
dopiwanblackflow: "master" as in that data can be sent to a collection server?  do you know if that data can get fed to Splunk?15:12
blackflowdopiwan: the nodes are fairly light perl daemons and the actual performance impact depends on the metrics you collect and with which plugins, there's lots of them15:12
evai got win10 iso file on my pc15:12
blackflowdopiwan: I don't know if it can be fed to Splunk, but the db is simple rrd files on the master side15:12
immueva:  can you check when you reboot, it might have windows10 entry in the grub menu15:12
evamy usb is small for 4.3GB15:12
evait dosent15:13
evaimmu, it dosent15:13
dopiwanblackflow:  thanks, the demo site looks pretty nifty... better if I could integrate into PRTG somehow15:13
immueva:  sure15:13
blackflowdopiwan: munin nodes have snmp plugins too if that helps15:14
dopiwanblackflow: does it have a dependency on snmpd ?15:14
blackflowdopiwan: I don't know, sorry15:14
dopiwannp thx15:14
evayes immu im sure15:15
immuit looks basically your whole partition has being deleted when you chose to install Ubuntu15:16
evahmm15:16
edward__I extracted hirens boot iso into /iso/ folder I know it boots from my USB on this machine the catch is I need to put menu entry in grub 2 on another machine ubuntu 16.04 :/15:16
edward__amd6415:17
eva:(15:17
ikoniaedward__: what are you talking about ?15:17
EriC^^eva: if you want any data back from windows, use the live usb you used to install ubuntu and boot it, or get another live usb from ubuntu.com15:18
immudo you have a legally purchased copy of Windows?15:18
edward__the question is how to create boot entry for extracted dos a like iso in grub 2 ?15:18
ikoniaedward__: extracted dos ?15:18
ikoniaedward__: you're aware this channel is for ubuntu support15:18
EriC^^edward__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#Menuentry_Example15:18
edward__linux16 /grub.exe —config-file="find —set-root /HBCD/menu.lst; configfile /HBCD/menu.lst"15:19
ikoniaedward__: thats nothing to do with ubuntu,15:19
edward__this command won't work on 64bit system :/15:19
evaok15:19
evaEriC^^, i got to usb drivers connecting to my pc15:20
eva;)15:20
edward__ops am I online ?15:23
Seditiohi guys, I'm asking on behalf of a friend who can't get his desktop to play nicely, currently running 17.04 with a peculiar GPU setup15:24
Seditiowhen he installed nvidia proprietary drivers, the system wouldn't boot, when he's on nouveau, it boots but the desktop renders at about 5 fps and the monitor layout it borked15:24
Seditiosee screen layout here: http://i.imgur.com/P5QQmli.jpg15:25
Seditiobut as he has two nvidia gpus, he has these options: http://i.imgur.com/qecTyOD.png15:25
evai got unetbootin15:26
evato work lol15:26
dopiwanunetbootin still supported? i thought rufus took over the spotlight15:26
AndroidFanhey there!15:26
evanah i have it15:27
edward__damn linux16 /grub.exe —config-file="find —set-root /HBCD/menu.lst; configfile /HBCD/menu.lst"  linux16 command is only available on 32bit systems :/15:27
edward__https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/linux16.html15:27
evahey AndroidFan :)15:27
atyzHey all. I have been trying to install 17.04 and when I start the installation process I am met with an unreadable screen. (http://imgur.com/a/VWvNp). I have been stuck here for days. I have tried 16.04 and 16.10 as well. With both the desktop and the server version. In both cases I get this. Can anybody help me out with a way forward? Please?15:27
AndroidFanI'd like to ask how to add Remix OS's entry to Grub, I'm multibooting Ubuntu along with it.15:27
evai use remix os15:27
EriC^^AndroidFan: try sudo update-grub15:28
evai use it to play pokemon go15:28
AndroidFanOkay, I'll give it a go, thanks!15:28
evaAndroidFan, ;)15:28
AndroidFanyep, I'd like to try that too :D15:28
EriC^^no problem15:28
evaAndroidFan, can i add u on discord?15:28
AndroidFanbrb, will reboot15:29
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AndroidFanor wait...15:29
eva?15:29
AndroidFanI can reckon I can have a preview of it on grub customizer15:30
evai need to make remix os to work for pogo15:30
evaAndroidFan, i sent u pm tho15:30
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AnthaasHi guys - I have a headless vm running ubuntu 16.04, but the DNS doesn't seem to work.15:32
AnthaasI am unable to resolve known hosts.15:32
__YiotaAnthaas can you ping 8.8.8.8?15:33
dopiwanAnthaas: how is it getting an IP address?   are you NAT or Bridged?15:33
Anthaas__Yiota, Yes :S I can't ping smtp.gmail.com15:34
__Yiotayeah, can't resolve the host15:34
__Yiotaare your ports open?15:34
__YiotaI think DNS needs a few ports15:34
Anthaas(Im learning web dev and trying to use my gmail account as part of registering)15:34
AnthaasUhh, how would I check?15:34
__Yiotaare you usin ufw/iptables?15:34
AnthaasI can ping it from the host machine, btw.15:34
evaokey i got win10 on my usb15:34
AnthaasAgain, I wouldn't know, sorry.15:35
evanow i need to reboot15:35
dopiwanAnthaas: whta do u see in cat /etc/resolv.conf15:35
Anthaasdopiwan, The only uncommented line is: nameserver 10.0.2.315:35
edward__can I force 32bit grub2 on 64bit system ?15:36
dopiwanAnthaas:  can u ping 10.0.2.3    ... is that a valid DNS server from your host?15:36
Anthaasdopiwan, From the host no, it times out.15:36
Anthaasdopiwan, From the VM yes.15:37
edward__any1 tried menu entry in grub2 for hirens boot on 64 bit ubuntu ?15:39
dopiwanAnthaas: can you ping your hosts authoritative dns server from your VM ?15:39
Anthaasdopiwan, You can probably guess what I am about to ask... haha15:40
omagashHey, any ideas to make an entry of Remix OS to grub?15:40
AnthaasIn fact, Im sure 8.8.8.8 is the DNS from my host.15:40
AnthaasOne sec, Ill check15:40
esbenI experience some graphics corruption on my brand new HP 255 G5 with R5 graphics. Using ubuntu 17.04 gnome edition. It boots fine and I can type commands in "blind", but the screen only shows some horizontal stripes... I can boot with nomodeset, where Im at right now15:40
esbenany help?15:41
EriC^^esben: try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 999915:41
EriC^^paste the link it gives you here15:41
omagashHey, any ideas to make an entry of Remix OS to grub?15:42
evahey15:42
Anthaasdopiwan, Yeah, I can ping 192.168.0.1 from the VM (which is the IPV4 DNS)15:42
Anthaasof my host15:42
dopiwanAnthaas:  edit your resolv.conf  remove the 10.x line and put in 192.168.0.115:42
EriC^^omagash: try sudo update-grub and see if you get anything15:42
scottjlesben: when you added nomodeset did you take out quiet nosplash?15:42
Anthaasdopiwan, It says not to edit because the changes will be overwritten15:43
scottjlsorry quite splash15:43
dopiwanAnthaas:  thats correct, I'm assuming your VM is getting a NAT IP from the host and not propogating correct DNS info... if you can modify DHCP settings in your host to tell what nameserver to use look for that15:43
omagashEriC^^: I tried it already, it still shows my old entries, nothing new :/15:43
andrew_Hello. How to disable bluetooth permanently?15:44
dopiwanbut for now edit the file and see if that fixes it15:44
EriC^^omagash: try "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the result here15:44
scottjlandrew_: blacklist the module for your BT15:44
andrew_scottjl: How to do it? Im new to linux15:44
andrew_(and how to make your name green?)15:44
pni1#linux15:45
logikos Hi, I purchased a dell laptop with ubuntu unity on it, and everything was working nicly then I used the update manager to install updates because the version of thunderbird on it would not work with gmail .. after theupdates it is like none of my drivers are working .. no ethernet, display res is 800x600 etc...15:45
logikosis there a way to undo that or a way to fix it?15:45
Anthaasdopiwan, I have no idea how to do THAT haha15:45
omagashEriC^^: http://termbin.com/1lkb15:45
dopiwanAnthaas: is your host also linux?  What hypervisor are you running?15:45
esbenEriC^^, I just get a message "use netcat" - no link... the command just give this output: driver   : amd64-microcode - distro non-free15:46
EriC^^omagash: there's only one linux install in the disk15:46
scottjlandrew_: my name was green because i mentioned you. you need to find the name of the module (driver) for the bluetooth on your system and add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist15:46
Anthaasdopiwan, My host in Win 10. I am using VirtualBox15:46
guest-iqtt3ohi15:46
EriC^^omagash: are you dual booting with windows? there are 2 ntfs ones15:47
dopiwananthaas try setting your network mode to Bridged for teh VM, that might be your easiest fix15:47
EriC^^omagash: actually 3 ones15:47
omagashI have two OS's Ubuntu and XP (excluding Remix)15:47
omagashthe third one is for Remix15:47
EriC^^omagash: on which partition did you install remix? how big was the size?15:48
omagasharound 8GB15:48
Anthaasdopiwan, VM has 2 network adapters, one is attached to NAT, other is Host-only adapter.15:48
EriC^^ok, try sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt15:48
EriC^^omagash: ^15:48
dopiwanAnthaas: change the NAT to Bridged15:48
dopiwanthen reboot VM and let me know15:49
omagashEriC^^: then?15:49
EriC^^omagash: try ls /mnt do you see anything?15:49
omagashboot  efi  isolinux  $RECYCLE.BIN  RemixOS  System Volume Information15:49
EriC^^omagash: how did you install remixos?15:50
EriC^^that looks like a live usb15:50
omagashEriC^^: Via the executable included in the archive15:50
omagashEriC^^: I actually stumbled with some grub errors after the installation15:50
omagashEriC^^: But it's fixed now15:51
EriC^^omagash: try ls /mnt/RemixOS15:51
omagashboot        efi          kernel            system.sfs    ubnkern15:52
omagashboot.ini    info.ini     menu.lst          TRANS.TBL     ubnpathl.txt15:52
omagashbootnw.txt  initrd.img   ramdisk.img       ubnfilel.txt  unformatted_data.img15:52
omagashcid.sys     install.img  remixos_meta.sys  ubninit       UninstallRemixOS.exe15:52
ducasse!paste | omagash15:52
ubottuomagash: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:52
EriC^^omagash: that's pretty weird, no idea how it boots15:52
EriC^^omagash: try the remixos channel, they might know15:53
omagashEriC^^:  well, I saw a reddit post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RemixOS/comments/41275z/any_ways_to_add_remix_os_to_grub2/15:53
omagashBut I'm not sure how to do it15:53
Anthaasdopiwan, It seems VBox will not run with that change15:54
Dr-007good day15:55
Dr-007my server's HDD is almost full15:55
esbenEriC^^, I hacked the text into http://termbin.com/e40x15:55
localadminhello everyone, I had a simple AD authentication system setup with kerberos+samba+winbind on 16.10 and just finished the upgrade to 17.04 only to find out that I can't authentication as my previous domain user anymore. The user list still shows my user but whenever I try logging it it tells me there was an error. Any has any tips on how I can debug this further? The krb/samba config files seem unchanged by the upgrade.15:55
EriC^^omagash: type sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom and paste the entry15:55
dopiwanAnthaas: Sorry I don't have VBox on my Win10 system I'm using Hyper-V (which I highly recommend using in place of VBox.. you can enable it for free in Windows)15:56
Dr-007i tried using `du -hsx * | sort -rh | head -10` to find big files/directories but the biggest is 13 gb. while my 1TB hdd is almost full. anyone knows a way to find out where alot of files are? in other word: find the biggest directories15:56
dopiwanAnthaas:  you should be able set it to bridged though, may need to remove the vNIC and re-add one15:56
EriC^^esben: try sudo apt-get install amd64-microcode15:56
scottjllocaladmin: check /etc/pam.d and see if any of the config files there got updated15:57
EriC^^Dr-007: try baobab15:58
EriC^^it shoudl already be installed in ubuntu15:58
omagashEriC^^: To the terminal?15:58
esbenEriC^^, done - should that have been installed already? Why wasnt it?15:58
Dr-007EriC^^, is baobab cli or gui?15:59
EriC^^Dr-007: gui15:59
scottjlDr-007: use ncdu for cli16:00
EriC^^esben: no idea, try dpkg -l | grep -E "amdgpu|radeon" | nc termbin.com 999916:00
EriC^^Dr-007: what scottjl said +116:00
esbenEriC^^, http://termbin.com/7e2816:01
Dr-007EriC^^, alright. cant use gui at the moment since my x-server is not working. i will try scott's anwer16:02
Dr-007i found some old encrypted homedir files. i think encryption is disabled tho16:02
EriC^^esben: i have the same packages installed16:02
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omagashEriC^^: http://pasteboard.co/70UwgHF74.png16:02
esbengonna give it a go thanks16:03
omagashEriC^^: That's sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom 's entry16:03
EriC^^esben: try cat /var/log/Xorg.*.log | nc termbin.com 999916:03
EriC^^omagash: ok paste the menu entry from the web page16:05
esbenEriC^^,  http://termbin.com/p9f7 - remember ive got nomodeset from boot16:05
Dr-007ecryptfs-verify -h ERROR: [/home/server/.ecryptfs] does not exist ERROR: Configuration invalid16:05
Dr-007encryption on my ubuntu for homefolder seems disabled16:06
Dr-007https://askubuntu.com/questions/513534/cannot-delete-encrypted-btrfs-snapshot/513547#51354716:06
omagashEriC^^: What do you mean, please help me understand.16:06
localadminscottjl, I see that with the upgrade there were many files backed up with *.pam-old, I'll try restoring these and see if I get this working again.16:06
madebymehow to set a programmer on start-up on Ubuntu16:06
scottjllocaladmin: make sure you back up the updated files. or diff them and see what changes were made16:06
andrew_Anybody knows how to run a terminal command by clicking a desktop icon?16:07
EriC^^esben: try to reboot i guess16:08
madebymehow to set a programmer on start-up on Ubuntu    ?16:08
baizon"programmer"?16:08
EriC^^andrew_: make a .desktop file16:08
ducasse!patience | madebyme16:08
ubottumadebyme: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:08
madebymeit means any software or package16:08
EriC^^madebyme: go to the dash and type "startup"16:08
madebymeafter that ?16:08
andrew_EriC^^: Could you please expand your answer? I m new to linunx (2 days)16:09
andrew_EriC^^: I'd like to create an icon to run xgamma -bgamma 0.8 command to fix my color gamma on monitor when i start pc16:09
pavlosDr-007: try with depth=1 ... sudo du -hx -d1 /16:09
esbenEriC^^, works like a charm - thanks16:10
andrew_EriC^^: (since I don't know how to make it permanent)16:10
kostkonandrew_, https://askubuntu.com/a/437030/165116:10
andrew_kostkon: thak you, i'll take a look and try16:11
venkathi16:12
EriC^^omagash: the part that says menuentry 'Remix OS' --class ..... copy and paste it all til the end of "}"16:12
EriC^^andrew_: type "ls /usr/share/applications" there are a bunch of desktop files there, you can copy any and modify it in a text editor to run a command, as long as it's set executable it should work to double click it and run16:12
EriC^^madebyme: click on startup apps and add what you want to run16:12
venkatlet me know how to install google chrome in mint 1816:12
EriC^^esben: great, no problem16:12
scottjlvenkat: go to https://www.google.com/chrome/ and they give you pretty explicit instructions16:13
andrew_EriC^^: ok I'll try. I have to figure out where exactly copy my command line16:13
EriC^^andrew_: you can have it run automatically when the desktop comes16:13
andrew_EriC^^: That'll be awesome16:13
EriC^^andrew_: ~/.profile runs when you start a session, add this line to it "if [ -n $DISPLAY ]; then xgamma.....; fi" that way it won't run if you start a terminal only session16:14
venkatok thanks eric16:14
EriC^^you can try your luck with the startup apps application too, i haven't had luck with it running any xserver related commands though, but .profile works for me16:15
edward__gosh I can list the files in the grub command line I can't type the right sentence to force boot on this extracted iso :/16:15
scottjledward__: select the line and hit e16:16
enoch85hey guys, do you know where I can find a preseed generator online?16:16
andrew_EriC^^: I got the list from the terminal, but how to copy 1 file on my desktop? Is it possible to find those files in a classic folder?16:16
edward__can I achieve on 64bits dos mode ? :/16:16
edward__real time whatever called :D16:17
edward__lack of linux16 and initrd16 on 64bits systems killing my day :/16:17
EriC^^andrew_: yeah, you can browse to it from the filemanager,  go to computer then usr > share > applications16:18
venkatdone eric16:18
venkatgreac16:18
venkatgreat16:19
andrew_EriC^^: ok, I copied 1 on my desktop. How do I edit?16:20
edward__how to gently switch to 32bit kernel/grub2 from 64bit one ?16:21
edward__multiarch force i386 ?16:21
EriC^^andrew_: open gedit then open it16:22
andrew_EriC^^: hum..what is gedit?16:22
andrew_EriC^^: ((new user))<--Noob16:23
logikosis there a way to revert an update, after doing an update none of my drivers seem to work... no ethernet, display is messed up (800x600) etc16:23
edward__gedit -> windows notepad16:23
EriC^^andrew_: it's a text editor16:23
ducasseedward__: if you want to switch from a 64-bit system to a 32-bit system, reinstall. but why run 32-bit on a 64-bit cpu?16:23
logikosgedit is much more than windows notepad .... yuck lol16:23
EriC^^logikos: try booting an older kernel from grub16:23
andrew_EriC^^: Maybe in this distro there is another. Im using ubuntu mate16:24
logikosEriC^^: does a normal update update the kernel??16:24
edward__I mean similarities :)16:24
andrew_EriC^^: pluma i guess. i'll try16:24
edward__ +1 for "text editor" :D16:24
logikosi view gedit kinda like notepad++16:25
EriC^^logikos: yeah the automatic system one does16:25
andrew_EriC^^: I opened the file. What do I need to erase and where do I have to put my command line?16:25
EriC^^andrew_: put the command next to Exec=16:25
edward__whoever removed 16bit mode from 64bit system ... head shot from me !!! cs go one :D16:25
andrew_EriC^^: #!/usr/bin/env xdg-open16:26
andrew_[Desktop Entry]16:26
andrew_Terminal=false16:26
andrew_Type=Application16:26
andrew_Categories=PackageManager;System;Settings;16:26
andrew_Name=Welcome16:26
ducasseandrew_: use a pastebin next time, please16:27
andrew_ducasse: I apologize16:27
ducasseandrew_: no worries :)16:28
andrew_EriC^^: So just copy the command line after exec=, and leave the rest as it is?16:28
EriC^^andrew_: yeah, change the exec= part and the name16:29
andrew_EriC^^: It works. Fantastic.16:30
andrew_EriC^^: For now I'll skip the autoplay at start.16:31
andrew_EriC^^: Thank you for your help and patience.16:31
EriC^^andrew_: no problem16:31
Canoe_With Canonical now focusing on server along with other trims their business in prep for external investment, is it at all possible that Microsoft would further engage with them in that direction?16:34
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tony-anyone know of a command to see what display manager i am using?16:38
mint1/etc/x11/default-display-manager assuming you're on debian16:39
mint1or echo $DESKTOP_SESSION16:40
evahi16:40
andrew_Why ubuntu gives me only 3 hours with the battery, while windows 10 goes easily 6-7 hours?16:40
evahmm16:40
ducasseCanoe: try #ubuntu-offtopic16:40
baizonandrew_: different cpu usage16:41
andrew_baizon: Is there a way to make it more efficient in managing power?16:41
mint1powertop16:41
mint1sudo apt install powertop16:42
baizonandrew_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/400/tips-to-extend-battery-life-for-laptops-and-notebooks16:42
tony-echo $DESKTOP_SESSION just says xfrce16:42
tony-doesnt list the display manager16:42
mint1thats your desktop16:42
tony-ya16:42
mint1try the other one16:43
mint1above16:43
tony-trying to find out the display manager16:43
andrew_baizon: thabks. I'll take a look at it16:43
transhumanI was thinking, tell me if my logic is wrong, If I install Ubuntu with all the packages LAMP and sendmail and basic LXDE and a couple other things, then I generate a list of all these packages, I should be able to make another instances packages identical by removing the rest of the packages that it has, is this reasonable (sounds like a weird way of going about it I know, but I have my reasons)...thanks in advance16:43
tony-this doenst work /etc/x11/default-display-manager16:43
tony-tony@tony:~$ /etc/x11/default-display-manager16:43
tony-bash: /etc/x11/default-display-manager: No such file or directory16:43
EriC^^tony-: try ps aux | grep dm16:44
mint1are you running debian or red hat16:44
geniiuppercase X16:44
EriC^^look for lightdm or gdm maybe16:44
ducassemint1: he's probably running ubuntu16:44
flux242andrew_:  power management is broken in ubuntu16:44
Canoeducasse: aha thanks, didn't realise there was a separate channel16:45
flux242andrew_: if you start the powertop and disconnect the power plug then all tunables should turn to GOOD16:45
flux242andrew_: but they won't16:46
eva:(16:48
andrew_flux242: hum..that's bad16:50
flux242andrew_: it's possible to fix though16:50
AssociateXHello all16:51
skelahi, anyone can help me with basic pgp issues?16:51
AssociateXHow can I tell which DE I'm using?16:51
wiggmpkHaving trouble identifying temperature sensors. Using UDisks2. I show Core 0-3 which is obvious, then I also show Physical Id0, temp1, and temp1.. Any thoughts?16:51
andrew_flux242: If you have some detailed guide please link it to me, but it has to be detailed because I'm new to linux16:51
EriC^^AssociateX: type "echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" in a terminal16:52
andrew_flux242: otherwise I'll wait to learn some basic stuff first16:52
andrew_Another issue I've noticed is that bluetooth is turning on at every restart. Is there a simple way to make it disabled and stay disabled?16:53
AssociateXEriC^^, thank you. I had been googling for 10 minutes with no luck.16:53
EriC^^AssociateX: no problem16:53
flux242andrew_: well, it's not so easy for a beginner. I could give you a link to an article I wrote but you could screw things16:53
andrew_flux242: better not screw then. I'll keep it this way, for now is ok16:53
skelai have a basic issue with thunderbird with enigmail, when i try to open a mail pgp encrypted software says that have not any private keys for decrypt, but i can decrypt the same text via command line!16:55
ducasseandrew_: is there a key to disable/enable bluetooth on your keyboard?16:55
skelahelp :'(16:55
pavlosandrew_: look at startup applications and disable/enable bluetooth ...16:55
andrew_ducasse: nope16:55
andrew_pavlos: I've found it. I'll try to disable and see what happens at next restart16:56
andrew_pavlos: Thank You!16:56
pavlosandrew_: np16:56
skelai have a basic issue with thunderbird with enigmail, when i try to open a mail pgp encrypted software says that have not any private keys for decrypt, but i can decrypt the same text via command line! Can anyone help me?16:59
blackflowskela: long time since I used enigmail, but iirc you had to set it up with a private key manually or something17:02
netcrimeHello. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04. I have a usb stick with installation. I want to reinstall ubuntu. When I make my usb #1 boot option it just boots ubuntu. How do I make it reinstall? I also have .iso file17:21
kostkonnetcrime, how did you create the live usb?17:21
netcrimeWith Rufus. Im sure it works because I have installed ubuntu the first time.17:22
netcrimekostkon: Now basicly I want to erase everything from my harddrive and reinstall ubuntu17:22
CanoeAre you using the right function key to boot from the usb media?17:22
kostkonnetcrime, and it boots on your already existing desktop?17:23
CanoeUsually f8 or f12 or del17:23
netcrimekostkon: Yes17:23
netcrimeCanoe: Yes. I enter Bios settings and set it to boot first from usb then cd then hard17:23
netcrimeI actually have double OS installed one windows 10 one ubuntu17:23
Lavinhogood afternoon17:25
bipolarI wrote a howto on getting a Dual Master OpenLDAP install up and running on Ubuntu 16.04. Maybe someone will find it helpful. https://iambenjaminlong.com/2017/04/21/configuring-openldap-multi-master-replication-on-ubuntu-16-04/17:25
Jordan_Unetcrime: Please run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.17:25
LavinhoCan someone help?17:25
blackflow!ask | Lavinho17:25
ubottuLavinho: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:25
Jordan_Ubipolar: Please don't try to publicise your (or others) articles on this channel. Please only respond to specific support questions.17:26
netcrimeJordan_u: one moment will do that17:26
Lavinholinuxium on lenovo ideapad 100s works sound ?17:26
netcrimeJordan_U: https://pastebin.com/Y6fPDi3Y output17:28
ducasseLavinho: you need to be clearer than that, i'm afraid.17:30
Lavinhosound is not function17:31
Lavinhobluetooth and wiifi17:31
Lavinhowhat is a solution ?17:31
ducasseLavinho: that model is known to be extremely problematic with linux.17:31
ducasseLavinho: the solution is to return it and get another model.17:32
Lavinhook17:32
Lavinhothank's17:32
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netcrimeJordan_U: does that help ?17:35
craigbass76I've got Pidgin running on two boxes, hooked up to XMPP with the same user account. When I send a message to that account, it's only going to one of the computers.  Anyone know where my problems is? XMPP server, or Pidgin?17:36
omagashhey Eric17:40
rud0lfany idea why mono/unity based steam games doesn't launch in ubuntu17:41
EriC^^omagash: type "sudo rm /etc/grub.d/40_custom" for now so update-grub works, i gtg somebody else can help i'm sure17:41
EriC^^sorry17:41
mikeymopcan someone help me with RSA identification im' getting frustrated17:53
mikeymopmy notebook is in authorized keys and works fine17:54
mikeymop I have a server I connect too as a middleman betwen public clients and my vps, this has another set of RSA.pubs17:54
mikeymopso on my vps, I scp the rsaid.pub over, and cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys17:54
mikeymopnow I ssh into this middleman, try to ssh to my vps17:55
mikeymopit now asks for a passphrase for my key. I type the passphrase I set from ssh-keygen -t and it is wrong17:55
mikeymopso i try any and all passwords I have ever used and NONE work17:55
SimonTI have 16.04 server installed on a Zotac ZBOX. Booting takes longer than I expect compared to other similar hardware. systemd-analyze shows that networking.service takes 10s, I'm guessing it has to do with the built in wifi that I don't use. Any way I can speed things up?17:55
mikeymopdo you use wifi?17:56
mikeymopor eth?17:56
FManTropyxmy swap usage is at 62%17:57
VTasFManTropyx: out of curiosity, what is your actual ram size, ram usage, swap size, swap usage: 62%, hdd size and hdd usage?17:59
FManTropyxso many questions... this old box has 2 GB RAM, same size swap, no idea of RAM usage18:00
Lukkerhello everyone18:01
FManTropyxhi18:01
impliteFManTropyx: are you using lubuntu?18:01
Lukkeri need some help with the apache installation on my ubuntu server 16.1018:03
implite!apache18:03
ubottuApache HTTP Server is the most commonly used HTTP server on Linux systems. For setup information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/httpd.html . For information on setting up a "LAMP stack", see /msg ubottu !lamp.18:03
SimonTmikeymop: I use eth only, I don't use the wifi at all18:03
Lukkeri installed from source code18:04
Lukkerbecause of a school project i am not allowed to use apt-get18:04
FManTropyxthe whole system freezes for minutes at a time to a point that the clock on the screen stops and even the mouse pointer cannot be moved18:05
FManTropyxthis is Ubuntu Studio 16.04.218:06
Lukkerso i installed the dependencies needed in tar.gz format extract them, renamed, make , make install and so on18:06
impliteFManTropyx: you should try the lubuntu iso18:06
impliteless resources used18:06
FManTropyxnow I don't know what is happening... 100% HDD usage18:06
FManTropyxFirefox is allocating half of my memory in use :P18:07
blackflowFManTropyx: are you running out of ram and it's swapping like there's no tomorrow?18:07
FManTropyxyeah18:07
FManTropyxI didn't think Linux did that, but I've been there with Windows before18:07
blackflowFManTropyx: so then you'll need more ram18:07
impliteor try lubuntu18:07
Lukkerwhen i am almost done with the installation the pcre gives me an error. Is it possible to delete only the pcre library and install it again or it is a bad idea18:07
Lukker??18:07
Jordan_ULukker: Does your teacher literally require that you not use apt-get at all in this process? It is never recommended to install all build-dependancies by source (though again, it would pretty much never be recommended to build apache from source for real use anyway).18:08
LukkerYES18:08
BluesKajFManTropyx:  or use a different browser :-)18:08
LukkerHe says that his dead grand mother can use apt-get and i kind of understand that :)18:08
Jordan_ULukker: You might be better off starting with Linux From Scratch and getting help there then, as you're close to that point anyway (and they are actually there to provide this type of support).18:09
FManTropyxI think I just need more freakin RAM :P18:09
Lukkeryou mean another support channel?18:10
SimonTFManTropyx: yes... 2gb is not much, especially with Firefox18:10
Lukkeri am new here...18:10
BluesKajFManTropyx:  how much do you have?18:10
impliteFManTropyx: lubuntu works great on old/low memory/slow systems18:10
Lukkeri didn´t quiet understood what do you mean by that...18:11
lewixCommand A & Command B18:11
lewixExecute Command A, then execute Command B (no evaluation of anything)18:11
lewixy18:11
lewixwhat's the equivalent with linux18:11
ducasseLukker: he means this is way beyond what is supported here, you're doing everything the non-ubuntu way18:12
lewixnot &&18:12
FManTropyxthis is an old business box (HP small form-factor DC7800 etc) and I think its age is 10 years :)18:12
BluesKajLukker:  use the nick od the person you want to address18:12
BluesKajod=of18:12
implitelukker: #lfs-support18:12
SimonTlewix: sorry.. what's wrong with && ?18:12
FManTropyxI cannot really afford or justify the purchase of a new computer, but I have been looking at getting a used laptop with 4 GB RAM18:13
lewixit's not the equivalent SimonT18:13
Lukker come on guys... i been jumping around all day from forum to forum and nobody can help me.18:13
lewix&& Execute Command A, evaluate the errorlevel after running and if the exit code (errorlevel) is 0, only then execute Command B18:13
SimonTyou could suppress the errors from command A?18:13
lewixSimonT: also i dont think && work with sh, it seems to only work with bash. I might be wrong18:14
logikoson a new laptop that came with ubuntu i did an update that asked me about disabiling uefi secure boot ... it was selected by default so i just went with it ... however after the update a lot of stuff is not broken .. is there a way to re-enable secure boot in ubuntu just so i can try that before restorying the system to factory?18:15
ducasselewix: are you after ';'?18:15
lewixducasse: yes but it doesnt work with windows18:15
ducasselewix: why would you ask us about windows?18:15
lewixducasse: that was my first inclination to use ;18:15
lewixducasse: Did I ask about windows?18:15
Lukker[20:15] <ChrisS67> then ask on Ubuntu support channels( this is what i get from the other channels)great.....isn´t it??18:16
lewixI asked about the equivalent of && (which is what windows use) and it's slightly different from ;18:16
SimonTI have 16.04 server installed on a Zotac ZBOX. Booting takes longer than I expect compared to other similar hardware. systemd-analyze shows that networking.service takes 10s, I'm guessing it has to do with the built in wifi that I don't use. Any way I can speed things up?18:16
lewixducasse: I basically wrote a script that only works on linux but i want to make it agnostic18:17
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blackflowLukker: earlier you were advised to use apt-file to find the package you need for that particular missing pcre binary, did you try that?18:21
BluesKajSimonT:  you could remove network manager and use the interfaxes file like so https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/18:21
BluesKajinterfaces file rather18:21
iorialewix, it can work, but not in dos (you can install msys and call bash in the cmd win)18:23
FManTropyxI just noticed I am also uploading at half a megabit18:27
FManTropyxmake that megabyte18:27
FManTropyxI think18:27
impliteFManTropyx: have you looked at lightweight ubuntu? http://lubuntu.net/18:28
impliteyou can find a faster operating system for your low memory requirements for your system there18:29
YankDownUnderStripping out LxDE and replacing it with WindowMaker is even lighter.18:29
implitehahahaha Indeed!18:29
scottjlratpoison is lighter than those18:29
FManTropyxI have xfce18:31
YankDownUnderscottjl: Ha...yeah...it's light, all right...(same as basically using xterm as a wm...)18:32
scottjldetails details..18:33
CarlFK"grub-installer: Installation finished. No error reported."   see again at #1260 of  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24428385/  and yet post says no boot device.    booted into installer rescue mode.  anyone have some guesses as to how to install grub?18:34
CarlFKit is an onboard ssd,  kernel dev name:  Apr 21 05:45:50 rescue-mode: partitions found: /dev/nvme0n1p118:35
blackflowCarlFK: that means the bootloader is installed, however is there a /boot for it to access? is there a kernel and grub config in it?18:35
ioriaCarlFK, are you 32 bit ?18:36
CarlFKblackflow: looks like it: /target/boot/vmlinuz-4.10.0-19-generic /target/boot/grub/grub.cfg18:36
blackflowCarlFK: and BIOS is set up for legacy (not EFI) boot?18:37
CarlFKioria: um.. it is a x64 cpu, but I think grub is a 32 bit thing18:37
ioriaCarlFK, idt so,  Installing for i386-pc platform.18:37
ioriaCarlFK, uname -a18:38
CarlFKblackflow: it was booting xenial ok before.  shouldn't I be able to boot grub in EFI?18:39
CarlFKioria: Linux gator 4.10.0-19-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 6 17:04:57 UTC 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:39
abolfazlhi.I have an .sh file.I add it to PATH and I can run it of every of my pc.i want to now where is this file address.are there any commend?18:40
blackflowCarlFK: yes but that requires special set up18:40
ioriaCarlFK, you are 64 bit...18:40
CarlFKabolfazl:  I think you want wich an.sh (or whatever the filename is)18:41
Epx998what filesystems are supported as the root fs?18:41
Epx998ubuntu doesnt support xfs as the root fs yet, right?18:41
abolfazlI want to know where is the file in my pc.(I want to know where is it address)18:41
bonsaitreeI am noticing something interesting after the reinstall of 16.04. While scolling in Google Chrome or while alt+tabing i am noticing a shape similar to this one, appearing in the middle of the screen: http://cosketch.com/Saved/p8yJQJPy .18:42
sisyphusCarlFK: can you paste the partition table of your boot disk including: EFI System Partition (FAT) and root partition?18:42
sisyphusIf your disk is /dev/sda, you can print the partition table using the command: 'sudo parted /dev/sda print' (without the quotes)18:43
CarlFKsisyphus: umm. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24428458/18:43
CarlFKk - ill do parted too18:43
sisyphusCarlFK: Your partition table format and partitions are not compatible with EFI. For using EFI, you need ALL the following:18:44
sisyphusCarlFK: Partition table should be GPT and not MBR - when it is GPT, fdisk will complain - you should use gdisk of sgdisk of cgdisk18:45
CarlFKsisyphus: was EFI an option in the ubuntu installer? I just kinda blew through the defaults18:45
sisyphusCarlFK: You NEED an EFI system partition (using sgdisk it is of type EF00)18:45
ioriaCarlFK, it's up to you boot the installer (your usb) in efi mode18:45
sisyphusCarlFK: EFI System partition should be formatted as vfat (if partition is /dev/sda1, use command 'sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda1)18:46
abolfazlhi.I have an .sh file.I add it to PATH and I can run it of every of my pc.i want to now where is this file address.are there any commend?18:46
Jordan_UCarlFK: If you boot the Ubuntu installation media via UEFI then it will install Ubuntu such that it can be booted via UEFI. You probably booted the installer via CSM (BIOS).18:46
blackflowsisyphus: CarlFK: it also requires GPT partitioning, this was msdos18:46
blackflowsisyphus: ah you said that already, k18:46
sisyphusAlso, the answer by Jordan_U is correct - if you (had) booted in EFI mode you may have hinted the installer to install EFI18:46
CarlFKok, I'll figure out how to re-run the install in EFI mode18:47
scottjlabolfazl: which file.sh18:47
abolfazlstartup.sh18:47
sisyphusCarlFK: Last, but not least, you need to boot in EFI mode (Firmware setting) once you have installed EFI apps correctly18:47
abolfazlI want it address18:47
scottjlabolfazl: what do you mean by address? location18:47
abolfazlyes18:47
sisyphusCarlFK: Which flavor of Ubuntu are you installing?18:47
scottjlabolfazl: type: which startup.sh18:48
CarlFKsisyphus: zesty18:48
sisyphusStandard Ubuntu (Unity) or Mate or Kubuntu (KDE) or Xubuntu (xfce) or Lubuntu (LXDE)?18:48
abolfazlthanks scottjl18:49
sisyphusCarlFK: When re-installing, choose the boot medium as 'UEFI: XXXX' or set firmware to be UEFI-ONLY18:49
scottjlabolfazl: you're welcome18:49
CarlFKsisyphus:  standard.  the exact thing I am booting: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/zesty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz18:51
ioriaCarlFK,  mini.iso18:51
mikeymopSimonT: if you're eth only, why not blacklist your wireless driver so it never inits in the first place18:51
ioriaCarlFK,  idk if mini.iso supports uefi18:52
ioriaCarlFK,  "he mini iso lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode. Thus, the computer will boot in BIOS compatibility mode, and the installation will be in BIOS mode. "18:53
ioriaCarlFK,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD18:53
K_K_Nhxcv, ?18:54
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sysadmin75Hello all.  I'm dealing with a networking issue on 14.04.4 server.18:56
sysadmin75I need to bring additional IPs on eth0.  eth0 pings just fine. But none of the additional ping (eth0:0, eth0:1, etc...)18:56
sysadmin75what am I missing18:56
compdocwhat are the ip add ranges?18:57
CarlFK ioria: CarlFK,  "the mini iso lacks ..."  I may be bumping into the same problem18:58
sysadmin75it's a private IP18:58
scottjlsysadmin75: you can see/use them? they are up and running?18:58
sysadmin75ifconfig shows them. And eth0 is accessible18:58
scottjlsysadmin75: are you using iptables? rules blocking icmp?18:58
sysadmin75no iptables18:58
scottjlcan you connect to them?18:58
scottjlfrom another server18:59
scottjlcan you ping the eth0 address?18:59
sysadmin75only main address pings. The others do not18:59
sysadmin75and no they are not accessible18:59
scottjlso they aren't up18:59
CarlFKsysadmin75: we really do want to know the IPs19:00
ozcaneseni removed user password, using sudo passwd -d username19:00
scottjlpastebin ifconfig -a19:00
ozcanesennow i can not do su username19:00
ozcanesenit asks password19:00
scottjlif i remember correctly they do have to be on the same subnet as the main IP. been a while since i played with aliases.19:01
scottjlif the are up they should at least be pingable on the machine itself. if you can't do that you didn't define them correctly.19:02
sysadmin75scottjl: https://pastebin.com/LUAg19Ha19:03
scottjlon the box can you even ping 192.168.13.13 ?19:04
sysadmin75yes I am able to ping all IPs on the server itself19:04
sysadmin75only eth0 is pinging from outside19:04
scottjlbeen a while. let me set up a test and check it out19:05
sysadmin75This is a fresh install using ubuntu-14.04.4-server-amd64.iso19:05
scottjlyour other box, it's on the same subnet?19:07
bonsaitreeI am noticing something interesting after the reinstall of 16.04. While scolling in Google Chrome or while alt+tabing i am noticing a shape similar to this one, appearing in the middle of the screen: http://cosketch.com/Saved/p8yJQJPy . I am curious to know why it's like that, anyone knows? :)19:07
scottjlbonsaitree: graphics driver glitch?19:07
sysadmin75scottjl: No it's not on the same subnet. However, my box has access to the subnet.19:08
bonsaitreescottjl, Yeah, but was wondering if anyone has figured what exactly is causing that. I think it was present before too, but it was a straight line, now it's a trapezoid like thing19:08
scottjlsysadmin75: hmm.. i just set up a test and i'm able to ping it from another box on the same subnet.19:11
scottjlsysadmin75: maybe a router issue?19:11
sysadmin75scottjl: Also, if I take down all IPs and assign eth0:3 to eth0, then it starts pinging19:11
scottjlinfact i'm able to ping the alias just fine from the internet. lol19:12
scottjli'd take a look at your router between the subnets.19:12
sysadmin75ok thank you19:14
andrew__Hello. I installed Ubuntu alongside windows 10 and was working fine. But I just booted from a live usb to test some stuff and after that it doesn't appear grub anymore at restart.19:14
scottjlsysadmin75: you're welcome. sorry i couldn't help further. i didn't do anything but spin up a vm, add an alias on the command line, and it was pingable.19:15
PrestiJ.19:15
scottjlsysadmin75: maybe post your interfaces file, but the ifconfig looked good to me19:15
DuckleHey there. I can't control the volume of my laptop. It just seems to ignore the media keys for volume up down and mute. I think it's because I've had a bluetooth headset connected, and it still thinks that's the sink it needs to control, problem is, that headset was my fathers, and I'm 100km away from him19:15
sysadmin75scottjl: Ha, I've already started a re-install. But it followed the normal file format19:16
andrew__GRUB disappeared after booting with a Live USB. What happened???19:21
implitescottjl: wow hahaha a new window manager for me to learn about "Ratpoison" ..... I thought you where trolling me19:25
implitenice19:25
scottjlimplite: lol. no. rp is quite old. personally i use i3wm, light weight, fully featured.19:26
scottjlbut you can't get more bare-bones than ratpoison19:26
implitetwm?19:26
ioria!info evilwm | implite19:27
ubottuimplite: evilwm (source: evilwm): minimalist window manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1-1 (zesty), package size 30 kB, installed size 86 kB19:27
YankDownUndermwm!19:27
YankDownUnderamiwm!19:27
ioriaimplite, but don't use it ... :þ19:27
impliteioria: what twm? y not?19:28
ioriaimplite, it's ugly, very ugly .... but useful sometimes19:29
YankDownUnder*Ugly* is perception...19:29
scottjloh evil. forgot about that one too19:30
implitehttps://ibb.co/jn8GJ5  <--- my ctwm19:30
scottjlunity. ugh19:30
scottjltiling wm's are a little bit of an adjustment to get used to, but so nice once you do19:31
sysadmin75scottjl: https://pastebin.com/VYeghQDB19:32
CarlFKwelp.. I set bios to "only boot EFI" booted installer, here is the disk partition screens: https://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/static/temp/d.html19:33
thelinuxchannelHi, did anyone tried GlusterFS on the new Ubuntu 17.04 ?19:33
thelinuxchannelI am facing some issues :(19:33
scottjlsysadmin75: that looks good to me. i think when i used them i didn't even bother with netmask. just set the address and moved on.19:33
sysadmin75ok, thanks scott19:34
scottjlsysadmin75: you don't happen to have network manager running too (is this a desktop or a server?) that could be interfering.19:35
sysadmin75it's server and these are the proceses19:35
sysadmin75https://pastebin.com/FVTiFt6E19:35
scottjlsysadmin75: else i'd check your router. i'm definitely out of ideas now19:36
sysadmin75yeah I've been working at this for 2 days. I sent an email to those running the router to see what they say19:36
CarlFKscottjl:   forgive the drive by helping... I didn't look at IPs... does the netmask on the box diong the ping cover the IP being pinged?19:36
sysadmin75it's just stange I can move any of the alias IPs to the main and it works19:37
scottjlCarlFK: yeah.19:37
CarlFKoh and that.  yeah, never mind.19:37
evahi19:37
scottjlsysadmin75: um. are you natted?19:37
evao.O19:37
StephenShas anyone used this ppa https://launchpad.net/~strukturag/+archive/ubuntu/libde265 ?19:38
CarlFKsysadmin75: what is the hardware between the 2 boxes?  Im hoping for 2 wires and a switch19:38
sysadmin75i dont' think so19:38
scottjlsysadmin75: i'm definitely suspecting the router/firewall since you said that19:38
CarlFKoh dear.19:38
StephenSI am looking for a way to play hvec x265 video file, and I'm not sure if I should trust this ppa19:38
scottjlCarlFK: no. it's on the other side of some router/firewall19:38
CarlFKscottjl: well... lp ppa's are complied from source and keyed so the binary you dl is 'trusted'.  so someone can look at the source.19:39
ioriaStephenS, it's old and not supported in xenial or zesty, unless you're running trusty19:39
scottjlCarlFK: i have no idea what you're talking about there. wrong channel?19:39
StephenSyap im on trusty19:39
CarlFKscottjl: er, wrong nic.. leme try again19:40
StephenSioria, is hvec on ubuntu 16.04 support out of the box?19:40
CarlFKStephenS: : well... lp ppa's are complied from source and keyed so the binary you dl is 'trusted'.  so someone can look at the source.19:40
ioriaStephenS,  give a look at this https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/mpv-tests19:40
StephenSwhat with that?19:41
StephenSI want to stick with vlc, not mpv19:41
daxPPAs are created by random people, who may make any modification to existing source code that they wish. They are about as trustworthy as their creators, and none of them are officially supported.19:42
ioriaStephenS,  vlc will crash with 265, but not sure19:42
daxi.e.: if the creator is some random person on the internet, the trust value of their PPA is approximately zero19:43
FManTropyxhmmh, the pre-installed MPlayer does not work19:44
Jordan_UStephenS: What happens when you try to play H.265 videos in VLC now?19:45
YankDownUnderStephenS: On 16.04, if anything, you can add the codec to the system with: sudo apt-get install x26519:46
dw1i have a file i can see with ls but i can't access with most programs. file describes it as JFIF 1.0219:46
dw1most programs. including cp, convert, etc., say "file not found"19:47
dw1i got it this bad file from the interwebs, and i need it. :]19:47
YankDownUnderdw1: It's being recognised as a graphics file.19:47
Jordan_Udw1: What is the exact and complete path to this file?19:47
dw1also ls doesn't show it in the same colour as other files19:47
dw1the path is all alphanumeric and not too long19:48
dw1it's a .jpg19:48
Jordan_Udw1: Do you have a reason for not sharing the exact and complete path?19:48
dw1yeah, has my site in it etc19:48
tgm4883dw1: your website?19:49
Jordan_Udw1: That will make trying to help you much harder, to the point that I might not be willing to even try (though others might).19:49
dw1it's just a normal path19:49
dw1/var/www/example.com/public_html/img/example-09685_fig2.jpg19:49
tgm4883trying to keep a website address secret seems silly to me19:50
dw1who cares, it's off topic19:50
dw1the file system doesnt like the file type idk19:50
scottjlprobably a porn site19:50
dw1no it's not i just don't need more competition19:50
Jordan_Udw1: Please post the output of "ls -l /var/www/example.com/public_html/img/example-09685_fig2.jpg".19:50
scottjlsure there's no special characters hidden in the name?19:50
scottjlshould try ls -lb19:51
Jordan_Udw1: I seriously doubt that anyone in this channel cares to compete with you.19:51
postmodernis there an official command for listing added PPAs?19:51
dw1https://pastebin.com/raw/mNJXZkha19:52
dw1looks the same like i said, but it's coloured differently19:53
scottjlthe color is only the permissions on the file. not a big deal. you should still be able to read it19:53
scottjldw1: you can access the other files in that directory ok?19:53
dw1some others have the same problem19:54
dw1but most dont19:54
scottjltry a -alhb19:54
scottjlsee if any funny chars print19:54
dw1you nailed it19:54
Jordan_Upostmodern: Not "official", but https://askubuntu.com/questions/148932/how-can-i-get-a-list-of-all-repositories-and-ppas-from-the-command-line-into-an . Note that for most purposes "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" will get the job done.19:54
scottjl:-)19:54
dw1there's a slash at the end :] thanks19:54
andyworkdw1: good luck with the porn site!19:55
dw1lol19:55
scottjlso easiest way to remove them is "mv example-09685.jpg* example-09685.jpg19:55
scottjl"19:55
scottjldo that for each funny file19:55
scottjlshould trim off the hidden crap19:56
dw1yea, awesome19:56
Jordan_Udw1: By the way, that command isn't showing that there is a '\' at the end of the file, it's showing that there is whitespace (like a space or tab) at the end of the file.19:58
dw1ahh good point thx19:58
StephenSJordan_U, that ppa works and vlc plays h256 fine20:09
StephenSjust asking if ppa is any good20:09
YankDownUnderStephenS: Which PPA?20:10
StephenS this ppa https://launchpad.net/~strukturag/+archive/ubuntu/libde265 ?20:10
YankDownUnderStephenS: If it's on Launchpad, I'll assume the bloke/girl has a reputation and it would be trustworthy.20:10
StephenSalright, ty20:11
YankDownUnderStephenS: I'd just make sure the person's name wasn't "Stephen" - very untrustworthy name that...(Oh wait! That's my name!) ;)20:12
Batinhello20:14
Batinwhat are the minimum RAM requirements for Ubuntu 17.04 i386 Desktop?20:15
snowrichard2hi20:15
Batinhi20:15
YankDownUnderBatin: I'm surprised you haven't looked: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME20:16
YankDownUnder"Let me Google that for you"20:16
BatinYankDownUnder, I have read it, but I think that it is for the AMD6420:17
YankDownUnderBatin: Easy -> have at least 2gb of RAM...you might find a bit of a struggle if your graphics card is "onboard"...4gb - at least - would suffice...also, bear in mind that 17.04 is a dev release...the LTS releases have more stability and support. :)20:19
BatinYankDownUnder, the problem is that the computer has only one GB of RAM20:19
Batinprobably I will have to install 16.04 for i38620:20
YankDownUnderBatin: You might want to find a different linux distro for a machine of that spec...unless you're planning on adding RAM...20:20
YankDownUnderBatin: That might work.20:20
Batinok, I will try20:21
ducasseBatin: you can try lubuntu20:21
ducasseBatin: 1gb is not much, though. depends on what you're going to use it for.20:21
Batinducasse, ok, I will give it a try too. The computer is a bit old, 13 years20:22
Bashing-omBatin: +1 ^^ " Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware." .20:22
BatinI see20:23
ducasseBatin: it might be time to get a new one, then.20:23
Batinit is for an org with low budget20:23
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evaany using remox os?20:25
evaremix20:25
ducasseBatin: still, 13 years is an immense amount of time in computing. you can't expect it to do all the things people want to do today.20:26
YankDownUndereva: #remix-os20:26
evayes20:26
evanone are here only me20:26
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scottjlguess no one else uses it.20:26
Batinducasse, I fear it is20:26
BatinI'll give lubuntu a try anyway20:27
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ducasseBatin: if that turns out not to work, ask in ##linux for other options.20:27
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YankDownUnderBatin: That's worth a try - there's also a few distros listed on distrowatch.com that are super small and might work, too.20:28
Batinok, thanks to all20:28
scottjlpuppy20:28
Guest94732hi20:32
lateniteHi folks how can I solve this error: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/69f45f3087594d07b2ac7af49b8f5b5520:33
YankDownUnderlatenite: In a terminal, can you run: sudo apt-get -f -y install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade ==> ??20:36
zhanxif not the old tried and true rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists  and apt clean should work latenite20:37
Bashing-omlatenite: Be aware : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1644498 . Upstream fix .20:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1644498 in appstream (Ubuntu Xenial) "apt-get update returns "AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors." periodically" [Medium,Fix released]20:41
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tonytThe government today, announced that it's changing it's emblem from an Eagle to a CONDOM, because it more accurately reflects the government's political stance . A condom allows for inflation , halts production , destroys the next generation , protects a bunch of dicks , and gives you a sense of security while your actually being screwed . It just doesn't get more accurate than that20:44
ducasse!spam | tonyt20:46
ubottutonyt: Please don't spam20:46
YankDownUnderSpam...mm...with eggs...must be breakfast time. :)20:48
chalcedonyMy husband has Ubuntu 16.04. I had him remove and reinstall his LibreOffice, because apparently some update failed or whatever, it didn't have all the packages, such as Writer, and was opening his files read only.20:49
chalcedonyThere are two different versions of LibreOffice 5.2.6 and 5.3.2. He downloaded both versions, from LibreOffice, but neither seems to run. He has been trying different things for hours. Which version does he need? What does he need to do, so he can use it?20:49
tarzeaui'd  use icloud.com :)20:51
Bashing-omchalcedony: ' apt policy libreoffice ' shows what origin for the package ?20:52
Bashing-om!info libreoffice xenial | chalcedony20:53
ubottuchalcedony: libreoffice (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial1 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 17 kB20:53
chalcedonyhi Bashing-om let me check that please20:54
chalcedonyBashing-om, its more than one line, pastebin?20:55
daxoridinstallation of ubuntu server hangs at "preparing linux-headers-4.4.0-62..." google results not helping. Any ideas?20:58
chalcedonyBashing-om, https://pastebin.com/C01UYSM620:58
ducassechalcedony: does 'snap list' list anything?21:00
daxoridfwiw, the host is still pinging. so I'm guessing no kernel panic. Is there no way to escape to shell during installation to see what's happening?21:00
MrKeunerhi, dmesg displays time since first boot. e.g. [    1.138478] Does this feature have a special name?21:00
ducassedaxorid: have you got access to the console?21:01
akikMrKeuner: it's seconds21:01
daxoridducasse: I have physical access, installation application still on-screen.21:02
ducassedaxorid: check v4, alt+f421:02
MrKeunerakik, thanks21:02
ducasse*vc421:02
akikMrKeuner: you can use dmesg -T for pretty formatting21:02
funAny fedora user?21:03
ikoniafun: why ?21:03
Menzadorfun: #fedora21:03
funNeed help about GUI21:03
funikonia:21:03
ikoniafun: use the #fedora channel then21:03
funI am getting terminal only21:03
daxoridducasse: thanks. that gives me what looks like a running log of the installer, but I'd like a shell, maybe to run top to see if it's spinning cpu, if it's exhausted memory, etc21:03
Menzadorfun: #fedora will help ya21:03
Menzador!pm | fun21:04
ubottufun: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.21:04
funHow to create bootable usb21:04
funI have iso21:05
MrKeunerakik, what I was really asking is whether reporting the seconds since boot instead of printing the actual timestamp would have a name of its own21:05
ducassedaxorid: check the other ttys, but i don't think there's a shell running21:05
funThen How to install OS from terminal21:05
chalcedonyducasse, ~$ snap list -21:05
chalcedonyNo snaps are installed yet. Try "snap install hello-world".21:05
ikoniafun: #fedora is the channel you need, "/join #fedora" to join the channel21:05
funIt's not about fedora21:06
ikoniawhat is it about then ? as you've just asked for help fixing your fedora gui and help installing fedora21:06
funAbout any os21:06
ikoniafun: we don't support any OS21:07
ikoniafun: join #fedora for help with your fedora problems21:07
ducassechalcedony: ok. then i would just remove the libreoffice copies you downloaded and try 'sudo apt install libreoffice'. using software from the repos is preferable to downloading it from websites.21:07
daxoridducasse: yeah, no shell. so, am I out of luck here? no way to troubleshoot this?21:07
Bashing-omchalcedony: That says not installed and looking to get from our repo . what show now ' dpkg -l | grep libreoffice ' ?21:08
ducassedaxorid: usually the log provides info on what has gone wrong, i have no other suggestion right now.21:10
daxoridallright, thanks anyway.21:11
ducassedaxorid: how long has it been sitting there?21:12
daxoridducasse: roughly 30 minutes21:12
chalcedonyBashing-om, ~$ dpkg -l | grep libreoffice21:12
chalcedonynothing21:12
chalcedonyi wonder what he did?21:12
Bashing-omchalcedony: Let's ";ook" at what might be propr to attempting a install from our repo . what shows ' sudo find / -name libreoffice ' . Got to be a reason !21:13
Bashing-om"look"21:14
marvin2how can I grep for files that contain both "foo" and "bar" (not necessarily one after another)?21:14
ducassedaxorid: ok. i would probably rewrite the image (if possible on another stick) just in case and restart the installation, rather than spend more time on this.21:14
daxoridducasse: finally found one thread with the exact same problem: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232257021:15
daxoridlooks like it's just expected for installation to take 4 hours or so21:15
daxoridalthough I don't have RAID hardware on this box - otherwise symptoms are identical to that thread.21:15
ducassedaxorid: i know it can take long, i've just never seen it go beyond 30 minutes.21:16
chalcedonyBashing-om, it found a lot of them21:16
ducassedaxorid: sorry, i've really gtg.21:16
CarlFKbios settings for pxe installer only has efi, it boots, installer runs, installs everything to one partition.  bios for ssd only has legacy.  still says no boot.  bios screen: https://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/static/temp/d8-0.png21:17
chalcedonystill finding21:17
chalcedonyducasse, have a good night21:17
Bashing-omchalcedony: Be good to see what it found - in a pastebin, please - we consider if install from our repo is doable .21:17
daxoridducasse: thanks21:18
chalcedonyok Bashing-om it's still finding :)21:19
vimeshello! Trying to set up a python3 virtualenv on a school owned ubuntu server (I have full root), but it keeps failing and I don't understand why. the log https://hastebin.com/ilabonozeh.sql21:20
Bashing-omchalcedony: Long slow process . patience :)21:21
CarlFKvimes: well, the good news is I see the problem: locale.Error: unsupported locale setting21:21
CarlFKvimes: I would ask in #python21:21
chalcedonyBashing-om, no problem. i hope it will let me copy all that ga21:21
Bashing-omchalcedony: ' try as ' sudo find / -name libreoffice | pastebinit ; when this process completes :)21:25
Bashing-omchalcedony: Mind ya we want to find out where to install libreoffice from . we be "hunting" .21:26
blackflowvimes: you need to set up locale. dpkg-reconfigure locales21:28
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blackflowvimes: need to set up whichever locale that module is trying to set21:28
CarlFKprogress... I told the installer to install to the ssd, then grub to a usb stick.  booted, now I get "no such device (long guid)" ... grub rescue>21:44
sam12hello21:47
CarlFKhi21:47
sam12i am new to ubuntu and stuck in a problem21:47
sam12my os is not booting and my all imp data is in that21:47
sam12is there any way to restore that21:48
ikoniasam12: you'd get better help if you defined "not booting"21:48
sam12screen is black and a minus symbol keeps blinking21:49
CarlFKsam12: reboot, hold the shift key down (hmm, I think it matters left or right...  so do both)21:51
sam12ok then...21:51
CarlFKsam12: you may get a grub boot screen.  that will be progress.21:52
sam12first time it showed cant read data from hd0 entering grub rescue mode but from after that nothing21:52
sam12right now i am running ubuntu through removable media.. but cant access my old files21:54
artur_hi21:54
davorhowdy21:55
sam12i have also tried boot repair disk21:55
Sparrow_sam12, in live mode have you opened gparted and looked at your partition from there21:57
sam12yes21:57
davorI just installed 17.04 on a lenovo g710 laptop and the wifi interface isn't listed in the gui, even though I can find it in the output of lspci, and it's not soft/hard blocked as per rfkill21:57
davornetwork manager only shows the wired connection21:58
bekksdavor: So which chipset is it?21:58
davoroh, sorry. broadcom BCM4314221:58
sam12https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/4oPYWMsSRkmu4c9HS5w9?signature=83fa5522bbe4d89e2374dae0286e5497e85df40d08d39b36570a01ecce0b0b26&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0OTI4MTQ3NzV921:59
Sparrow_sam12, wht happens when you try to mount the damged os partition?21:59
chalcedonyBashing-om, https://pastebin.com/Gu1G3kx4  1 hour paste22:00
Sparrow_sam12, sorry O can help with the lvm prob.22:01
sam12ok.. is he online?22:01
Sparrow_sorry.. No not O22:01
sam12any suggestion for me..22:02
Sparrow_sam12, what happens when you try to mount the damged os partition?22:03
Sparrow_sda122:03
Bashing-omchalcedony: Look'n :)22:04
sam12https://thepasteb.in/p/oYhlE3OQDA6tZ22:05
chalcedonyty Bashing-om :)22:05
sam12please check that link22:07
Bashing-omchalcedony: Above my knowledge are all these " /timeshift/snapshots/ " . Seems though that most of the packages are still installed . let's see what ' sudo apt install --reinstall libroffice ' does for us .22:12
latino31there is a bug when trying to uninstall python3.5 with synaptic manager...it gives a list of items it wants to remove one of which is apparmor? i tried unintalling python3.5 in ubuntu 16.10 and it crashed my ubuntu because it tried to remove a lot of stuff22:15
nacclatino31: why are you removing python3.5?22:15
latino31synaptic package manager22:15
ikonia"why"22:15
daxthat isn't a bug. apparmor depends on python3, current version of python3 in Ubuntu is python3.522:15
kostkonlatino31, python is a major part of ubuntu don't remove it22:16
Sparrow_Probably part of meta-package if memory serves.22:16
latino31kostkon, thanks for the info now after my ubuntu crashed a few weeks..22:16
latino31:)22:16
latino31ago22:16
latino31it would be nice to have a warning22:16
latino31how do you specify using python3.6 specefically22:17
ikoniayou don't22:17
nacclatino31: just install python3.6 and then run `python3.6` ?22:17
ikoniause the version that ships with ubuntu22:17
nacclatino31: uh, you were given a warning, it removed a bunch of stuff22:17
latino31ikonia there is a program that uses python3.6...and python3.6 is in the repos22:18
ikonialatino31: what program depends on 3.6 specifically22:18
latino31nacc well i mean why would someone want to remove a program that will crash ubuntu22:18
latino31ikonia it uses 3.6 syntax22:18
latino31its not going to run in 3.522:18
latino31i already talked to the creagtor22:19
latino31creator22:19
ikonialatino31: what application depends on 3.622:19
nacclatino31: you are root, when you add/remove packages, you can do anything you want to your system22:19
latino31ikonia, it uses syntax specefic to 3.6...your asking useless questions ..as i said before the creator told me this and it runs for him in 3.5...22:20
nacclatino31: as root, it is presumed you know what you are doing22:20
latino31in 3.6 i mean22:20
Batinbye22:20
ikonialatino31: yes, you said that "what is the name/website of the application"22:20
nacclatino31: then install python3.6 (don't remove python3.5) and invoke python3.6 explicility22:20
latino31nacc i thought i tried that i can try again22:20
nacclatino31: well, if you removed python3.5 and haven't put it back yet, do that first22:21
nacclatino31: and replace all the packages you removed too22:21
latino31naac that worked ...i thought i had tried but i guess i did not22:21
chalcedonyBashing-om, <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Above my knowledge are all these " /timeshift/snapshots/ " . Seems though that most of the packages are still installed . let's see what ' sudo apt install --reinstall libroffice ' does for us .22:21
chalcedonyer darn22:21
chalcedonyBashing-om, Reading state information... Done22:21
chalcedonyE: Unable to locate package libroffice22:21
latino31naac i did not remove it this time but i saw again how many packages it wanted to remove to i cancelled it22:21
naccchalcedony: libreoffice22:21
nacclatino31: "nacc" not nacc. Use tab-complete to avoid that22:22
latino31python3.6 works thanks22:22
nacclatino31: err, "nacc" not naac, I meant22:22
chalcedonynacc, ha yes i just saw that.. trying again :)22:23
chalcedonynacc, Bashing-om its doing it :)22:24
Bashing-omchalcedony: Sorry .. typo . correct to be ' sudo apt install --reinstall libreoffice ' :(22:24
chalcedonyits at about 30%22:27
artur_bye22:28
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chalcedonyBashing-om, husband says it is doing the wrong version - here are two different versions of LibreOffice 5.2.6 and 5.3.2.22:30
Bashing-omchalcedony: Thn we looking at 3rd party . What do you want to do here ? we can see what the fetch is pastebin ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .22:32
nacc5.3.2 isn't in any ubuntu (fwiw)22:33
HandorioLibreOffice (stable)22:33
HandorioHauptprogramm22:33
HandorioGewählt: LibreOffice 5.3.2 für Linux  and 5.2.6 for win22:33
kostkonchalcedony, there is a snap (provided by Canonical) and an deb version of libreoffice available22:33
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nacckostkon: ah yes, you're right, the snap is at 5.3.2.222:33
naccsorry for the misinformation earlier22:33
kostkonnacc, yeap22:34
Bashing-omnacc: "snap" is going to be a trial determining what is installed from where .. I do think .22:35
naccBashing-om: yeah, i have defaulted to looking at rmadiso, but didn't think of the snap case -- will write a local wrapper :)22:35
Bashing-omnacc: Better man than I !22:36
* nacc wonders if we should teach the bot about that22:37
daxabout what22:37
naccas the same snap can be installed in 14.04+ now (aiui)22:37
naccdax: we have !info <pkgname> <relesae>22:37
daxoh, snap versions22:37
naccdax: but it misses the snaps of a similar/same name22:37
daxi think the code's at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots , if you want to have a go. it's over my head22:38
naccdax: ack :) i'll look next week :)22:38
chalcedonyBashing-om, and all, my husband says he wants 5.2.6.222:40
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lavinhortl8723bs ubuntu 17.04 ?22:42
sshhelphey guys, struggling with SSH keys - I setup a server with a key I generated in putty, but I'm struggling to share that key with other servers, or alternatively generate a new key on a different server and allow that on the original one.22:44
sshhelpI feel like this shouldn't be difficult, but I'm obviously missing something22:44
chalcedonyBashing-om, https://pastebin.com/3mF3aKwr22:44
chalcedony(sources.list.d)22:44
sshhelphow do you add authentication from an unapproved server to your server that only accepts its specific SSH key? I22:44
sshhelpran ssh-copy-id from the Approved Server - Server 1 to the unapproved server 2, but that just allows me to connect that way, and I can't do the converse because authentication will fail with public key reject.22:45
bekkssshhelp: so ssh to server 2 and add the pubkey manually?22:47
sshhelpThanks Bekks22:47
sshhelpDo I cat it to the bottom of hte authorised hosts file?22:48
sshhelp*append it22:48
ikoniaauthorized_key file22:48
ikonianot host22:48
ikoniahosts is for host based authentication22:48
sshhelpyes thank you, wrong word22:48
Bashing-omchalcedony: Surprise surprise, libreoffice is not there ! . what about 'cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list" . any show for libreoffice there ?22:49
sshhelpstraight in! Thank you both.22:50
BAlanquick question:   in order to run a full version of Ubuntu that will remember settings, install and keep apps, and boot and run it from a USB thumb drive, do I use the HD... version, or the LiveCD version, or does it matter ?   I want to have a FULL Stand-Alone instance of Ubuntu that I can Carry with me and boot on any machine I'm at..22:51
sshhelpSo I'm trying to understand how to do this at scale. Do you have to manually copy to the authorised_key file every time? So run ssh-keygen, then manually copy each time? Wanting to do this on many servers, so a manual process seems excessive.22:52
ikoniasshhelp: you can share a public key22:52
ikoniayou don't need a new one for each host22:52
bekkssshhelp: you dont copy the authorized_keys file, you copy the specific public key.22:52
sshhelpThanks Bekks, I did the correct thing here. ]22:53
vimessshhelp, ssh-copy-id <serveruser>@<serverip>22:53
BAlanquick question:   in order to run a full version of Ubuntu that will remember settings, install and keep apps, and boot and run it from a USB thumb drive, do I use the HD...22:54
nacc!patience22:54
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/22:54
naccBAlan: --^22:54
naccBAlan: you want to look at persistent USB22:54
BAlanor the LiveCD version, or does it matter ?   I want to have a FULL Stand-Alone instance of Ubuntu that I can Carry with me and boot on any machine I'm at..22:54
nacchttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence22:54
chalcedonyBashing-om, i believe that 'autoremove' was very effective. we downloaded the new ones from the LibreOffice webpage.22:55
nacci think the latter is more current22:55
sshhelpThanks vimes - I had used that, but that copied from Server 1 to Server 2 quite happily, but not the converse, because that one was missing the public key of server 2 in the authorised_key file, so it was rejecting the connection - the advice of @bekks and @ikonia clarified it for me.22:55
Bashing-omchalcedony: See : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice >>> Installing a newer version of LibreOffice than available via Ubuntu repositories . Then we want to KNOW that 5.2.6.2 is compatible with 16.04 .22:56
sshhelpAlso is that a Pratchett reference? I really want to get a dog and call it Laddie... or perhaps Gaspode, depending on the dog.22:57
YankDownUnderGaspode!22:57
BAlanthanks nacc...  I wasn't sure that question posted fully the first time, I only saw the second half of it..  sorry..22:57
chalcedonyBashing-om, reading ty :)22:58
BAlani'll go check out those sites now...22:58
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Guest87067I'm trying to dual boot win 10 with ubuntu 16.04, if I create a new partition in the ubuntu installer instead of in windows, will it mess up my old files?23:03
Guest87067and my old os?23:04
uboontoonope, you can do it :)23:08
Guest87067so it should be fine?23:11
Handorioyou can use ubuntu and win on the same hdd23:11
Handorioyou win is safe23:11
Handorioand you can run it about the os loader23:12
Handorio*your win is safe23:12
mach20xHaving issues with my graphics card after the update to the -72 kernel23:12
tomreynGuest87067: this said, whenever you modify your partitions you should be sure you have current backups of all your data.23:13
BAlanadditional question:  Persistant Ubuntu on a USB stick...   Already have the stick prepared, partitioned with 30gb main, 20gb data, and a 8+gb swap.   Have access to UnetBootIn that has versions up to 10.04 Net/HD/Live (64), plus daily_live64 sources for install...23:13
chalcedonyBashing-om, i read it. so we should remove the LibreOffices and start over again? (downloading here takes ages and makes the internet close to unusable for anytning else)23:13
tomreynor rather, that's something you should be sure about in general, as well as how you will restore them and how long it will take oyu.23:13
BAlanis it possible to select one of those, which would be best ?, and install that onto the stick via that utility ?23:14
BAlanthen modify that install to persist ?23:15
ChaiTRexBAlan: If you mean Ubuntu 10.04, you'll want something later than that (16.04 probably).23:15
BAlanCan the 10.04 still be upgraded to newer after install with upgrade utility ?23:17
Bashing-omchalcedony: Honestly . If there are still libreoffice packages on the system; I would enable the PPA and try ' sudo apt install --reinstall libreoffice-gtk2 libreoffice-gnome ' : http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/08/03/libreoffice-5-2-released-how-to-install/ .23:17
BAlantoo much of a jump ?23:18
ChaiTRexBAlan: Way too much.23:18
ChaiTRexBAlan: A clean install also keeps things nicer.23:18
tomreynbut yes, it's theoretically and practically possible23:19
Bashing-omBAlan: My 2 cents worth .. way too many changes ! from 10.04 to 16.94 .. and a LOT of bandwidth, time, and effort . Do a fresh clean install of 16.04 and in about 30 minutes done .23:20
tomreynis it a good idea though? probably not23:20
BAlanif I d/l the 16.04 version, is there a specific install format, meaning NetInstall, etc that would be the best to use ?  Or just the main full LTS version ?23:20
BAlanand then use unetbootin to burn the ISO to the stick ?23:20
tomreynif bandwidth / data transfer is a concern, use mini.iso23:20
tomreyn!mini23:21
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD23:21
BAlanwas that mini.iso comment for me ?23:21
tomreynyes BAlan23:22
ChaiTRexBAlan: I'm not sure how to install it persistently on a USB key.23:22
erialdohello, I did a stupid thing. I accidentaly renamed the files and folder on home directory all23:22
ChaiTRexBAlan: I've done it once through VirtualBox, but not directly yet.23:22
erialdonow caja shows all the home directory at once23:22
erialdonot only desktop23:22
erialdowhat are the defualt folders of ubuntu mate23:22
tomreynBAlan: what are you trying to do there again? having a single ubuntu installation on a bootable usb stick, which you can carry around with you and use with multiple computers?23:24
BAlanI'll go with the v16.04 iso, and see how it works...   nacc gave me the urls for the persistant mods a few minutes ago, and I'll dive into those after install, but I'll prob be back..  Thanks All, please say a silent prayer...  ;-)23:24
BAlantom: yes...23:25
ChaiTRexBAlan: No problem.23:25
BAlantomreyn: anything to add ?23:26
erialdohello How to make caja to work correctly again23:26
erialdocoz i did a stupid shit23:26
erialdoI accidentaly renamed all files and folders in my home directory23:26
erialdofortunately those with dot are the same as before23:27
tomreynBAlan: okay then i'd download mini.iso, use virtualbox (or some other virtualization) to boot off the iso image, attach the usb stick to the VM (pass through) and select the usb drive as target disk for th einstallation in the VM.23:27
tomreynBAlan: to me, that's the easiest approach. but if, for example, you'r enot into virtualization,t hen maybe that's not for you.23:28
lollhoshhi guys23:28
lollhoshfine?23:28
BAlanthanks tom....23:28
BAlangood idea...23:28
tomreynBAlan: personally i like this full installation (which is similar to Method 1 at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent) a lot more than the overlayed one (which is Method 0 on that guide)23:30
tomreynit runs faster, is more flexible.23:31
chalcedonyBashing-om, do you know which PPAs he needs?23:31
erialdo@BAlan install virtualBox in a machine. Download the iso image from the ubuntu mate homepage. create a bootable usb using the program Rufus. now start virtualbox and create a virtual machine23:31
erialdousing the iso image23:31
erialdoif you want to install it in a pc use the bootable usb that you created with rufus23:32
akikerialdo: it would really help if you pastebin the output of "ls -l $HOME"23:33
tomreyn!paste | erialdo23:34
ubottuerialdo: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:34
Bashing-omchalcedony: ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa ' seems most likely .23:34
akikerialdo: i don't think you broke anything, anyhow23:35
erialdo@akik yeah23:35
erialdobut it is really annoying23:35
erialdobecause it shows all the folders23:35
erialdoon desktop23:35
erialdonot only desktop23:36
erialdoI don;t know if you understand me23:36
erialdothe main thing is that not the default folders (Documents, Downloads etc ) are called 1.jpg, 2.jpg etc23:37
erialdoI know I should have looked where i type the command23:37
erialdoyou have the default folders of ubuntu mate there23:38
akikerialdo: i think you can see the default dirs in /etc/skel or after creating a new user account and logging in with it23:38
erialdocould you tell me the names23:38
erialdoah ok23:38
erialdolet me check23:38
erialdoyou know my main problem is with caja because it shows all the folders23:38
erialdonot only Desktop when I boot23:39
akikerialdo: you can upload a screenshot at imgur.com23:39
erialdoyeah sure23:39
ghost__hi23:40
chalcedonyBashing-om, its doing its thing ty23:40
Bashing-omchalcedony: Not out of the woods til the test in in :)23:41
erialdohttp://imgur.com/a/PAti423:41
erialdo@akik23:41
chalcedonyBashing-om, we have the keys. what's next?23:42
akikerialdo: did you move those dirs into /home/erialdo/Desktop/ ?23:43
erialdono23:44
erialdoi renamed some of them23:44
akikit looks like it23:44
erialdothe one Desktop is the same as before23:44
erialdoDownloads too23:44
erialdothe others don't remember23:44
erialdoI thought if I renamed all could go back as it was23:45
erialdoapparently not23:45
erialdocaja is a little dizzy23:45
akikerialdo: pastebin "ls -l $HOME $HOME/Desktop"23:45
erialdook23:45
erialdohttps://pastebin.com/622YMcC523:46
erialdosorry it was ls -l $HOME23:47
chocolaterobotguys, do you think it's a good idea to install Ubuntu on my new tablet (Chuwi Hi12)?23:47
Bashing-omchalcedony: Did libreoffice install ? what results in starting it ?23:47
chalcedonyBashing-om, ill go take a look23:48
bazhangchocolaterobot, is that a touch device23:48
chocolaterobotbazhang: yes, it's a tablet that with a touchscreen http://en.chuwi.com/product/items/Chuwi-Hi12.html23:48
bazhang!touch | chocolaterobot23:48
ubottuchocolaterobot: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch23:48
bazhang#ubuntu-touch for that chocolaterobot23:49
chocolaterobotbazhang: i saw that page and didn't see my tablet there23:49
chocolaterobotok, will visit that irc room23:49
erialdohttps://pastebin.com/JHvUmYjd23:49
erialdo@akik23:49
bazhangchocolaterobot, thats the channel for it23:49
chocolaterobotthanks23:49
chullBashing-om, ~$ libreoffice23:50
chullThe program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:23:50
chullsudo apt install libreoffice-common23:50
Bashing-omchull: seems rasonable . do it .23:52
akikerialdo: sorry imgur is acting on me. won't let me zoom on the imgur picture23:53
chalcedonyBashing-om, doing it :)23:53
Bashing-omchull: smsame person as chalcedony ??23:53
imightbestupid12so i set the chmod / 777 for my webserver running as root and i was wondering what do i need to do to revert those changes?23:53
erialdo@akik maybe is nothing23:53
chalcedonyBashing-om, yes - hubby's computer23:53
Bashing-omchalcedony: K .23:54
erialdoit's just that caja is not working that good23:54
chalcedony:)23:54
imightbestupid12guys?23:54
erialdo@imightbestupid12 there is no undo23:54
Bashing-omchalcedony: A slight oversight on my part . the system is fully updated at this time, yes ?23:54
imightbestupid12what is the default permission?23:55
chalcedonyBashing-om, yes i think so.. he does daily automatic updates23:55
akikerialdo: sorry i don't know why those dirs and files appear on your desktop. which command did you use that caused this?23:56
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erialdols | cat -n | while read n f; do mv "$f" "$n.jpg"; done23:56
erialdo@akik but i did it in the wrong directory23:57
erialdo@akik i felt dumb23:57
erialdo@akik hey akik no problem23:57
erialdo@akik maybe I will do a format and fresh reinstall23:58
akikerialdo: you can just create a new user account23:58
erialdo@akik nah too many applications23:58
erialdoare those there too?23:59
erialdoin the new account23:59
akikerialdo: yes23:59
erialdothe same apps again ?23:59
SimonTgot a question.. I have 3 HDD's in this box, I'm installing ubuntu server and I want to have the 2nd & 3rd drives available. What do I use for the mount point?23:59
akikerialdo: unless you installed those in your home dir23:59

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