[00:04] <Delvien> warren_: Lemme know how that turns out, that wouldnt be something id touch with a 10 foot pole :P
[00:06] <warren_> Delvien, thanks been a pain, the adapter has a usb 2.0 slot built in. that pops right up, but the gpu seems to hate me lol
[00:06] <Delvien> warren_:  I did it in windows, and even that was a huge pain in the ass
[00:06] <Delvien> warren_: of course.. mine was expresscard, not mpcie
[00:09] <warren_> Delvien, I didn't have an expresscard slot or I would've tryed that instead. I think that I may need to mod my bios to turn off the internal graphics and switch to the external
[00:09] <Delvien> warren_: make sure the gfx card isnt blacklisted. also is it showing up in lspci -nn ?
[00:11] <warren_> Delvien, not showing up in lspci, not sure how the blacklisted works
[00:13] <apostolos> Delvien, what are you trying to do? Install an external gpu to the mpcie slot of a laptop using an adaptor?
[00:13] <Delvien> apostolos:  im not trying to do it :P
[00:14] <warren_> I am
[00:14] <apostolos> oh ok :P
[00:14] <apostolos> cool
[00:14] <Delvien> warren_: why are you even trying to do this?
[00:14] <warren_> apostolos, it'd be cooler if I could find it :)
[00:14] <apostolos> I was about to try it a few years ago but thought it wouldn't be very practical so abandoned the idea
[00:15] <Delvien> apostolos: its not, because mpcie means you have to attach it to the boards slot, which makes it about as immovable as a desktop
[00:15] <Delvien> apostolos: and at that point, just build a desktop
[00:15] <apostolos> Delvien, yeah exactly
[00:15] <warren_> Delvien, mining, had a desktop lined up fell through
[00:16] <Delvien> warren_: shiiiiiiieeeeee just find one on craigslist.
[00:16] <Delvien> warren_:  or if u have a mom and pop compu store in your area,
[00:16] <apostolos> warren_, as Delvien has already mentioned many laptop manufacturers blacklist everything except for a few mpcie wifi adapters
[00:16] <apostolos> so you might have to find a modded bios as well
[00:16] <Delvien> which will be a PITA
[00:17] <warren_> Delvien, it's crazy how much people want for junk desktops around here
[00:18] <warren_> Delvien, people asking $400+ for used I3's with 8 gb ram lol
[00:19] <apostolos> also you should probably attach psu as well, I don't think the mpcie bus can provide so high current
[00:19] <selsperr> what does this mean? runescape-launcher : Depends: libglew1.10 (>= 1.10.0-3) but it is not installable
[00:19] <Delvien> warren_: is the i3 a skylake/kabylake?
[00:19] <warren_> apostolos, it's on it's own psu
[00:20] <apostolos> great then it should be fine ;)
[00:21] <Delvien> warren_: is the i3 a skylake/kabylake?
[00:21] <apostolos> selsperr, what version are you running?
[00:22] <apostolos> I mean release
[00:22] <selsperr> 16.04
[00:22] <warren_> Delvien, I don't know, either way more then what I was looking to spend atm. I think if I end up with a desktop I'd rather do a custom build. Though there is a guy selling servers converted to desktops in the area I've been thinking about hitting him up when I get some extra cash
[00:23] <apostolos> have you tried sudo apt-get install libglew1.10 ?
[00:23] <Bashing-om> !info libglew1.10 xenial
[00:23] <Delvien> warren_: be wary of those. They suck so much juice, you may as well save up a little more for a desktop pc/mobo
[00:23] <ChaiTRex> selsperr: See https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2320850 for a workaround.
[00:23] <Bashing-om> !info runescape-launcher xenial
[00:24] <selsperr> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:24] <selsperr> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:24] <warren_> Delvien, I'll keep that in mind thanks :)
[00:24] <Bashing-om> selsperr: Looks to be 3rd party software . need to talk to the maintainers .
[00:24] <ChaiTRex> selsperr: Is apt-get, apt, or dpkg still running elsewhere?
[00:24] <selsperr> only one terminal open
[00:25] <Delvien> warren_: I have an old fx-4130 ill sell ya for cheap lol
[00:25] <ChaiTRex> selsperr: I guess you can do `sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock` if you're sure nothing's handling packages right now.
[00:26] <warren_> Delvien, is it pick up only? lol
[00:27] <Delvien> warren_ what area u in
[00:27] <selsperr> Package libglew1.10 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:27] <selsperr> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:27] <selsperr> is only available from another source
[00:27] <apostolos> actually fx-4130 has been really good :P
[00:27] <warren_> Delvien, mi usa
[00:28] <selsperr> brb
[00:28] <Delvien> apostolos: ikr i was thinking about selling my 4790k and just going down to that for my server environment
[00:28] <ChaiTRex> selsperr: Try the workaround in the link I pasted: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2320850
[00:28] <ChaiTRex> selsperr: That'll get libglew installed.
[00:28] <johnfg> hi guys
[00:28] <Delvien> !hi johnfg
[00:29] <Delvien> hmm i forget the ubbotu command
[00:29] <johnfg> In getting libnss-ldapd set up, I've accidentally made it where I can't login to 17.04 server.
[00:29] <warren_> Delvien, there are actually some decent deals, but about an hour from where I live. I might have to just give in and make the trip
[00:29] <johnfg> I didn't set up root with its own password.  What to do?
[00:29] <Delvien> warren_: do iiiiiiiit
[00:30] <ChaiTRex> johnfg: Can you log in as another user and use `sudo`?
[00:30] <selsperr> ChaiTRex: what should i put in termainl? sudo dpkg -i didn't work
[00:31] <johnfg> unfortunately not.  No other users yet, brand new installation.
[00:31] <johnfg> Unless is mysql admin available as a login account?
[00:32] <johnfg> Nope, mysql didn't work.
[00:36] <selsperr> sorry ChaiTRex I dont understand what to do with that link
[00:36] <johnfg> I did use rescue mode, and did a Dropt to root shell prompt, but it's not fully functional.  I.e., it won't allow vipw, or even for root itself, passwd.
[00:37] <ChaiTRex> selsperr: Sorry, one second.
[00:38] <ChaiTRex> selsperr: What is the output of `uname -a`?
[00:39] <selsperr> -HP-Pavilion-dv6-Notebook-PC 4.8.0-46-generic #49~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 31 14:51:03 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:40] <ChaiTRex> selsperr: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd64/libglew1.10/1.10.0-3 says to download https://launchpadlibrarian.net/161405671/libglew1.10_1.10.0-3_amd64.deb
[00:41] <ChaiTRex> selsperr: You can then use `sudo apt install Downloads/libglew1.10_1.10.0-3_amd64.deb`
[00:42] <pd1> selsperr, or dpkg -i libglew1.10_1.10.0-3_amd64.deb
[00:42] <johnfg> Any ideas on adding a user or adding a password when in the root shell prompt in rescue mode?
[00:42] <ChaiTRex> pd1: apt install handles missing dependencies. dpkg -i expects you to then use `apt install -f` to fix any.
[00:45] <ChaiTRex> johnfg: See https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-create-a-sudo-user-on-ubuntu-linux-server/ for adding a user that can use `sudo`
[00:45] <selsperr> thanks ChaiTRex, got it running
[00:45] <tubal> Hello. Show of hands -- who has difficulty with the Gnome (or GTK+) toggle switch? E.g.: https://esite.ch/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/EWn5B.png  Is that on or off? I have to puzzle it out every time.
[00:45] <ChaiTRex> selsperr: You're welcome.
[00:45] <nacc> tubal: uh, it says "ON"?
[00:45] <nacc> tubal: and iirc, it's only lit when on
[00:46] <ChaiTRex> tubal: Same as nacc.
[00:46] <Bashing-om> ChaiTRex: selsperr No can do : as the package manager insist " Depends: libglew1.10 (>= 1.10.0-3) " .
[00:46] <tubal> nacc: Okay, I'll buy that. However, when I look at it, it makes me think than "ON" is the choice I can toggle *to*.
[00:47] <nacc> tubal: in the US, at least, look at light switches, they display the current state
[00:47] <nacc> i'm fairly sure that's the model used
[00:47] <tubal> nacc: Really. Not here.
[00:48] <tubal> If that's why, I'd argue that it's a poor model.
[00:48] <johnfg> I fixed it, and here's how, if anyone else makes this mistake.
[00:49] <nacc> tubal: i've seen the same in other countries, admittedly
[00:49] <nacc> tubal: so you'd prefer it was lit and said off?
[00:49] <nacc> that would be even worse
[00:50] <tubal> Not prefer, really. Some other arrangement.
[00:50] <nacc> tubal: someting to bring up with upstream gnome, presumably, not ubuntu :)
[00:50] <ChaiTRex> nacc: I could see having a light separate from the switch that was on and was labelled on.
[00:50] <nacc> ChaiTRex: yeah, i guess that's true, not part of the slider/switch
[00:50] <nacc> or display both labels above the slider
[00:51] <tubal> nacc: Oh, it's not as serious as all that. Or if it is, I expect they have plenty of reports on it already. :)
[00:51] <tubal> ChaiTRex, Something like that, yeah.
[00:52] <johnfg> At the grub menu, choose Advance Options, then rescue mode.
[00:52] <tubal> btw, if anyone has installed diodon and wondered why it doesn't work, there lies the answer.
[00:52] <johnfg> Choose drop into a root shell.
[00:53] <johnfg> Then do mount -o rw,remount /, and you'll be able to run vipw in my case, and the changes will be written out.
[01:02] <Basketball> test
[01:02] <Basketball> !test
[01:11] <johnfg> Ok, I've got users out of /etc/passwd, and into openldap.  All seems to be good.
[01:25] <jdavis> Hello, in pavucontrol the selected device on the "configuration" tab just changes randomly. Any idea how I can stop this?
[01:25] <johnfg> 6~/quit
[01:26] <chocolaterobot> hi all. I just bought a Chuwi Hi12 tablet, which comes with both Android and Win10. I'm thinking of installing Linux on it. What are your thoughts?
[01:27] <Azero> Constant laughing at all the "microsoft support" scams.
[01:48] <wudo_honour> hi gays, I want to install ubuntu in my laptop, how about that?
[01:49] <Bashing-om> !install | wudo_honour
[02:22] <codepython7771> I want to be able to login into my ubuntu box using my laptop wirelessly. It's not on a wireless network. What wireless hardware do I need to do this? Preferably with long range
[02:24] <kenrin> What?
[02:25] <CHVNX> codepython7771: research SSH
[02:25] <CHVNX> You want to use SSH to log into your computer.  You do this via your router.
[02:25] <codepython7771> CHVNX: There are no routers in the picture
[02:25] <CHVNX> If both computers are connected to the network, you will be able to communicate with each other.
[02:25] <codepython7771> just 1 machine without monitor/keyb, and the other is my laptop
[02:26] <CHVNX> Do you have a wireless network?
[02:26] <kenrin> You'll need a router
[02:26] <codepython7771> I need to login into the machine using my laptop - so need the ubuntu box to hast a hot spot
[02:26] <codepython7771> kenrin: I am thinking of making the machine a hotspot - preferably with high power - so that the laptop can ssh into it from a distance
[02:27] <kenrin> I guess you could do that.  Seems like a lot of trouble vs connecting a crossover cable
[02:28] <CHVNX> You could always just buy a $10 router...
[02:28] <codepython7771> can't i just buy a usb wireless card (compact) and make ubuntu a hotspot - I just need something that works with ubuntu and is long range
[02:29] <kenrin> get a 2.4ghz card for longer range
[02:29] <Oerheks> not all wifi hardware / driver can do that, look for certified wifi hardware, intel i guess.
[02:29] <codepython7771> kenrin: do you know of a usb one that works with ubuntu?
[02:29] <kenrin> There are thousands and thousands,  it depends on the chipset
[02:29] <kenrin> oddly enough the cheap ones work better
[02:30] <Oerheks> !hardware
[02:37] <Delphin> hi, I have a problem when I run jake, I get : jake aborted.
[02:37] <Delphin> SyntaxTerror: Cannot find module 'system'
[02:37] <Delphin>     at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:325:15)
[02:37] <Delphin>     at Function.Module._load (module.js:276:25)
[02:37] <Delphin> (See full trace by running task with --trace)
[02:40] <grantwu> http://ix.io/rjl I upgraded to 17.04 today and now am hitting general protection faults
[02:40] <transhuman> anyone know of any scripts anyone has written to eliminate all packages from ubuntu that are not required to run anything but LAMP and sendmail?
[02:44] <Bashing-om> transhuman: Generally - best practice - build up rather than tear down . Why not install core and add LAMP and sendmail?
[02:48] <transhuman> just figured it might be way of straightening out a server the lazy mans way..of course a san snapshot would be done first...
[02:49] <transhuman> I tried rebuilding it on alpine-linux but getting an access denied for the website on alpine...knocked my head against the wall for 2 days and tried every common reason for this error that I could find
[02:50] <transhuman> using virtual hosts and no .htaccess
[02:55] <donofrio> how can I get libxslt to see libxml2 that is in /app/Utilities/libxml2 - cd /app/source/libxslt-1.1.29 && ./configure --prefix=/app/Utilities/libxslt --with-python=/app/Utilities/libxslt && make && make install
[02:56] <SynfulAck> hey whats this "Install a minimal virtual machine" Mode option during ubuntu server installs? http://imgur.com/a/LPBLJ
[02:57] <SynfulAck> Is that for installing it unto hypervisors, or is it trying to role me my own hypervisor?
[02:57] <SynfulAck> Sounds like its meant to be put onto a hypervisor or virtualized.
[02:58] <onkar> send ip of host
[02:58] <SynfulAck> u also want its twitter account?
[03:00] <elky> onkar: it's not clear what you are asking for
[03:02] <onkar> elky: sorry wrong channel
[03:03] <SynfulAck> :*(
[03:05] <IronY> I admit defeat
[03:06] <elky> IronY: defeated by what?
[03:06] <IronY> anyone know why a 17.04 upgrade would suddenly prevent both Xvnc and Xorg from running at the same time?
[03:06] <IronY> i have apt-get removed purged reinstalled xorg
[03:06] <IronY> the xstartup file has not changed
[03:06] <IronY> they work independently
[03:16] <grantwu> gnome-shell has general protection faulted 4 times in the past 75 minutes
[03:16] <grantwu> What should I do?
[03:17] <darthanubis> rigctld - Hamlib TCP rig control daemon
[03:18] <darthanubis> I can run this cmd with sudo just fine, but not with normal user
[03:24] <pd1> darthanubis: you cannot get every tcp socket without root access. thats why it does not allow you to run it without root access
[03:45] <TheShadowBrokers> .
[04:09] <Polesch> I keep getting bash: ./T-COFFEE_installer_Version_11.00.ed01f1f_linux_x64.bin: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[04:09] <Polesch> When trying this: http://www.tcoffee.org/Projects/tcoffee/#DOWNLOAD
[04:34] <VTas> any channels on freenode that is for linux hardware/ opensource hardware?
[04:37] <krytarik> VTas: Looks like ##hardware is indeed your best bet.
[04:37] <VTas> krytarik: ty
[04:37] <krytarik> Also,..
[04:37] <krytarik> !alis
[04:38] <VTas> oh awesome didnt know. Thank you
[04:38] <krytarik> That's exactly what I did, that is.
[04:39] <wort0> hi guys. sorry to be a bother. I use ubuntu regularly but I'm curious if I can use ubuntu on a liveusb to run something like chkdsk on a HDD running windows that may have bad sectors.
[04:39] <Ben64> wort0: no]
[04:40] <Ben64> you gotta use windows tools for windows stuff
[04:40] <etgtgtgwrzh_> thank god they killed "unity" desktop
[04:41] <PipeItToDevNull> wort0, chkdsk is a Windows Utility, fsck is what Linux uses
[04:41] <wort0> Ben64, I figured as much but I thought I'd ask since I'm out of options. thanks
[04:56] <SynfulAck> Does ubuntu 16.04.02 lts have a ncurses or like package that can configure the networking like redhat has with nmtui ?
[04:56] <SynfulAck> WICD ?
[05:13] <kbob> SynfulAck: try apt-cache search WICD
[05:14] <SynfulAck> kbob, i tried and installed then when it prompted me to add a user to udev i pressed something and i dont think it got added, tried purging it then reinstalling but now luck and it wont run.
[05:15] <SynfulAck> Even sudo wont work, which leads me to believe i dont understand this software and maybe i ahve to install other packages like the daemon. So i gave up and just edited /etc/network/interfaces and hope thats good enough.
[05:16] <kbob> you have a permission problem, fix the connection and than look at it
[05:18] <SynfulAck> fix the connection, wasnt that what i was trying to solve in the first place?
[05:22] <grv11> hi
[05:22] <grv11> everyone
[05:22] <grv11> just need information on how to speed up my system,I need quick hack
[05:25] <baywords> This isn't ubuntu related.. But dies anyone know of expressvpn  hides user agent data? I want to tether my ps4 to my phones  data (unnoticed)  by att
[05:26] <baywords> Sorry for the typos.  My keyboard  has been acting funny ever since 7.0
[05:26] <baywords> Wz!  71602
[05:27] <baywords> hmm  I did it wrong.
[05:27] <baywords> I forget the weather  command..
[05:28] <grv11> Just got to your setting on keyboards and mouse
[05:28] <grv11> change delay short setting
[05:31] <baywords> Anyone?
[05:32] <Ben64> baywords: if it isn't ubuntu related it doesn't go in this channel
[05:34] <baywords> Okay. Say I have ubuntu and I have expressvpn installed :| and a router with expresspvn :| oh and ubuntu.  How would my ubuntu was know if  a VPN hides user agent data when I connect my ps4  to the network. That also has ubuntu :|
[05:34] <baywords> Ubuntu  ass know if
[05:34] <baywords> *
[05:37] <baywords> Ubuntu is the only channel I know
[05:37] <baywords> Give  an old ubuntu  user some info aye
[05:37] <krytarik> !alis
[05:40] <krytarik> baywords: That is to say, "/msg Alis help list" to find more channels.
[05:41] <grv11> msg Alis help list
[05:41] <grv11> I hv a issue
[05:41] <grv11> I used qupzilla
[05:41] <grv11> as browser
[05:42] <grv11> but its not updating on my system
[05:42] <krytarik> !enter | grv11
[05:43] <grv11> qupzilla is best browser so far in term of memory . its lates version is release but its not shown on software update ,unable to update
[05:44] <kostkon> grv11, how did you install it?
[05:44] <grv11> through terminal
[05:44] <grv11> apt-get
[05:46] <grv11> i hv installed 1.8.9 and latest is 2.1.2
[05:47] <grv11> sudo apt-get install qupzilla ..this is how i installed it
[05:48] <kostkon> !latest | grv11
[05:49] <grv11> git-hub ,what is that
[05:50] <grv11> can we use through it????
[05:50] <grv11> its the best browser from the junk opera,firefox and chrome
[05:51] <kostkon> grv11, you would have to compile it yourself. Not an easy task for new users.
[05:51] <zamba> what do you guys use to handle ssh keys in a business infrastructure?
[05:52] <grv11> pls let me know
[05:52] <grv11> i want to use it
[05:52] <grv11> tell me the steps,I will save for future refrences
[05:53] <kostkon> !compile | grv11, you could start from here
[05:53] <baywords> Oh okay thank you  krytarik
[05:54] <krytarik> Sure.
[05:55] <grv11> ok thanks kostkon for the information ,I m checking
[06:08] <chalcedny> where in ubuntu 16.04 does libre office keep its files?
[06:09] <chalcedny> hubby updated his libre office, but there is no writer
[06:13] <hitman1> I heard today that get from 'apt-get' is removed in new versions of ubuntu ?
[06:13] <marvin2> how do I prevent alt+tab in ubuntu from grouping together multiple windows and instances of the same programr?
[06:14] <spookedgal> Is anyone free to give me a hand with a wifi issue? realtek drivers/16.04 Thanks :)
[06:15] <Ben64> spookedgal: the way it works is you describe your issue and if someone can help and wants to, they will
[06:16] <spookedgal> Thanks Ben64
[06:19] <spookedgal> My wifi is able to connect for maximum 1sec and drops out immediately. wlp4s0    IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any
[06:19] <spookedgal>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[06:19] <spookedgal>           Retry short limit:7   RTS thr=2347 B   Fragment thr:off
[06:19] <spookedgal>           Power Management:off
[06:19] <spookedgal>  
[06:21] <andrew_> Hello
[06:21] <dharma> hi
[06:21] <dharma> hey
[06:21] <andrew_> ((new linux user))
[06:21] <andrew_> how do I check by grub version?
[06:22] <andrew_> I installed ubuntu mate but this grub is a little weird compared to the classic
[06:22] <diskin> dpkg -l|grep grub
[06:22] <dharma> https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjNt6u49LTTAhXCNo8KHdKjCf4QFggjMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F107486%2Fhow-to-know-the-version-of-grub&usg=AFQjCNGitYIZesVF4giTgsqKwnzYWeZubw
[06:22] <diskin> this is just one way of doing that :)
[06:22] <dharma> diskin
[06:23] <dharma> do you know how to disable network adapter
[06:23] <andrew_> diskin, thank you
[06:23] <andrew_> 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.9
[06:23] <andrew_> is this an updated and ghood version?
[06:23] <diskin> yes
[06:23] <andrew_> Is there a way to have it with the classic gui
[06:23] <andrew_> instead of fancy one?
[06:24] <dharma> hey
[06:24] <andrew_> I dont know if all ubuntu distro have this one
[06:24] <andrew_> but linux mint had the classic one
[06:24] <diskin> dharma, check ifdown command
[06:25] <grv11> can i clock my pc in ubuntu ?is this safe?
[06:25] <andrew_> How to highlight your name in green in this Hex version? I used to press tab but this time appears a comma and not : and green
[06:26] <masber> hi
[06:26] <masber> how could I rename a bond interface?
[06:26] <sweet-jam> hello
[06:37] <dharma> hi
[06:38] <FreddyP> hi
[06:39] <dharma> do you know how to deal probllems with network adapter
[06:40] <FreddyP> what kind of issue do you have ?
[06:44] <dharma> my wifi adapter(inbuilt) is damaged
[06:44] <dharma> so i had an usb adapter
[06:44] <dharma> but both drivers are crossing
[06:44] <dharma> they are not conncecting to router
[06:45] <FreddyP> do you have ifconfig installed
[06:45] <FreddyP> if you do you can bring down the offending network interface
[06:46] <hitman1> FreddyP: Here is op of ifconfig from dharma - https://paste.pound-python.org/show/GZaez0SKe0bMy28M0jEo/
[06:48] <FreddyP> so therefore you can       ifdown wlp7s0
[06:48] <FreddyP> assuiming wlp7s0 is the broken interface
[06:49] <hitman1> FreddyP: how you know that wlp7s0 is the broken one ?
[06:50] <FreddyP> i dont it was just an example to show the syntax
[06:50] <dharma> yes
[06:50] <dharma> its broken
[06:52] <FreddyP> most built in wifi adapters on laptops are identified with wlpXXX name
[06:54]  * FreddyP needs coffee
[06:54] <dharma> its not working
[07:02] <FreddyP> did you usign ifconfig to bring down the inteface that is not working
[07:09] <ko_lo> o/
[07:10] <ko_lo> I'm playing around with upstart, I think I missed something, is there a specific command to "register" a script so it can be triggered by events or even using initctl?
[07:11] <abolfazl> hi.I run a startup.sh file,it run's another file in it self.the output of this .sh file is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24425294/ .the catalina.sh file is in it folder next to the this file.I think there is a problem in startup.sh fil.this file content is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24425242/ .(sorry for my bad english)
[07:22] <singalaut> J #gentoo
[07:22] <t_> where am i
[07:22] <t_> i don't even know what im doing
[07:22] <t_> lol
[07:22] <t_> i am getting out
[07:24] <ko_lo> I don't get it, I have my script owned to my user, in ~/.config/upstart, chmod+x, in the correct format but I get initctl: Invalid job class: save
[07:24] <ko_lo> (my script is here : https://0bin.net/paste/zaUN7E9bb+v1jcyC#A4Pb7ubYX2CkBI9kt4fiN1dLQB46ifxq6apOWGuOULe )
[07:31] <pratn> Hi
[07:34] <ko_lo> init-checkconf gave me a syntax ok
[07:48] <lab1mobile13> CIAO
[07:48] <lab1mobile7> GHUOB4IKJFLDW
[07:49] <lab1mobile13> CIAO RAGAZZI CIAO A TUTTI SONO ZEB 89
[07:49] <lab1mobile7> EHH VOLEVIIII
[07:51] <egonsen> hi! when launching a certain program, i get this error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/xml/bind/annotation/XmlSchema. i thought that i had to install libjaxb-java, which contains this class. i did so, but i am still getting this error. any ideas what i could do t osolve this?
[08:17] <jotauver> Hi!!
[08:23] <jotauver> hi, I've two files (A and B), every file has a list of md5sum. I want to know the files that are in file A and not in B
[08:23] <jotauver> some idea?
[08:25] <Ben64> jotauver: diff
[08:26] <geirha> comm
[08:27] <geirha> jotauver: See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/036
[08:27] <Ben64> geirha: neat
[08:28] <jotauver> thanks!!!
[08:28] <vincenzoml> Hi there; since when I upgraded to ubuntu 17.04 from 16.10 on a mac mid-2010, I can no longer create a wifi hotspot (which worked like a charm previously). Here is the pastebin for syslog, can someone help? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24425539/
[08:29] <potatoes_> I have a bash script running:  aws autoscaling set-instance-health --instance-id #{INSTANCE_ID} –-health-status Unhealthy but when I try to run it, weird characters show up in the output
[08:29] <potatoes_> and the command doesn''t execute properly
[08:29] <vincenzoml> iwlist scan works fine, so I assume the card is working
[08:29] <potatoes_> err $INSTANCE_ID sorry.
[08:33] <ducasse> potatoes_: check the locale
[08:47] <vincenzoml> Hi, my connection closed and I didn't notice, sorry, I had asked about this pastebin https://paste.ubuntu.com/24425539/ with the log of failing creation of wifi hotspot on ubuntu 17.04 after upgrade
[08:47] <vincenzoml> don't know if anyone replied
[08:48] <vincenzoml_> Hi again; keeping disconnecting by mistake
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> vincenzoml_: system up to date? wifi chipset please?
[08:50] <vincenzoml_> lotuspsychje: updated 5 packages just now, so I will reboot and come back with further info
[08:53] <ricard> hola a todos
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> !es | ricard
[08:53] <ricard> quisiera hacer una pregunta
[08:54] <bazhang> #ubuntu-es ricard for spanish
[08:56] <ricard__> hola
[08:56] <bazhang> #ubuntu-es ricard__
[08:56] <bazhang> here is english ricard__
[08:57] <ricard__> thankyou
[08:57] <vincenzoml> lotuspsychje: system updated; lspci says "03:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)"
[08:57] <martyix> Is there a web list of existing snaps? (https://snapcraft.io/)
[08:57] <jotauver> geirha:  I am trying now the comm command but I've some problem. I've two file list, the md5sum is the same in some lines but the path not, so.. the comm always return empty
[08:57] <bazhang> martyix, try #snappy
[08:58] <martyix> bazhang: tx
[09:02] <PCatinean> What unix command would take all the files inside a directory with the extension .tmpl and mash them up into one single file?
[09:03] <vincenzoml> PCatinean: cat *.tmpl > newfilename.tmpl ?
[09:03] <PCatinean> hmm that simple? XD
[09:04] <vincenzoml> I really need to restore the wifi hotspot, sorry for asking again, anyone experienced problems with creating these after upgrading to 17.04?
[09:04] <PCatinean> vincenzoml, you're a genius!
[09:04]  * PCatinean huggles
[09:04] <vincenzoml> PCatinean:  :)
[09:05] <PCatinean> vincenzoml, sorry no experience there. The only thing that comes close was my wifi card being very unstable with the update to 16.04. This turned out to be a problem because of the battery saver mode it had on by default
[09:05] <jink> vincenzoml: I wouldn't do that in the same directory if it's the same extension.  Just to be sure. ^__^
[09:05] <PCatinean> that and some shady drivers caused inconsistencies
[09:05] <vincenzoml> jink: some things must be learned from experience :)
[09:05] <PCatinean> jink, what do you mean? :))
[09:06] <geirha> jotauver: Ah, so only considering parts of the lines, then I'd go with awk. the md5sums are at the start of each line?
[09:06] <vincenzoml> that if "newfilename.tmpl" exists, it gets overwritten with no undo
[09:06] <vincenzoml> and that if you run the command again, I think it could double the contents of the file
[09:07] <jink> vincenzoml: That, or let's append the file to itself, depending on when or if newfilename.tmpl is resolved by *.tmpl.
[09:07] <hateball> If you want to append, you use >> when redirecting
[09:07] <vincenzoml> jink: but neither happens on 17.04 at least! cat complains that the input file coincides with the output file and does not proceed
[09:08] <jink> vincenzoml: Ah, nice. :)
[09:09] <geirha> jotauver: awk 'FNR==NR{ a[$1] = $0; next} { delete a[$1] } END { for (k in a) print a[k] }' fileA fileB
[09:10] <ducasse> vincenzoml: problems with the ath9k driver seem to be common on zesty, can you try both older and newer kernels?
[09:11] <vincenzoml> hmmmm I knew I shouldn't have upgraded ... :) ducasse what's "newer" than what I have after dist-upgrade?
[09:11] <vincenzoml> and what's really older?
[09:11] <ducasse> !mainline | vincenzoml
[09:11] <ducasse> vincenzoml: for older try the last era that worked for you, 4.4 or 4.8 i'd guess
[09:14] <naskeli> I have an .ovpn file
[09:14] <naskeli> is there any way I can directly import it without specifying certs and stuff?
[09:14] <naskeli> the certs are embedded within the .ovpn file
[09:14] <naskeli> I would like to use network-manager
[09:15] <vincenzoml> ducasse: reading the log carefully I saw that there was a complaint about dnsmasq executable missing; I ran sudo apt-get install dnsmasq and now everything works
[09:15] <vincenzoml> guess it's a bug to report
[09:15] <naskeli> using openvpn to start the tunnel works fine
[09:15] <naskeli> I just don't get any certs when I import the vpn
[09:16] <ducasse> vincenzoml: please do, zesty switched from dnsmasq to systemd-resolved, so that's probably the reason.
[09:18] <vincenzoml> how do I report a bug nowadays... I get redirected to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[09:19] <ducasse> !bug
[09:19] <naskeli> lame, network-manager bug :(
[09:20] <Lukker> checking for pcre-config... false configure: error: pcre-config for libpcre not found. PCRE is required and available from http://pcre.org/
[09:21] <Lukker> i get this error when i try to install apache2 from source code
[09:22] <ducasse> Lukker: why aren't you using apache from the repos?
[09:23] <Lukker> can anyone help me with that? I am ubuntu server 16.10
[09:24] <ducasse> Lukker: if you answer the question, maybe i can.
[09:26] <Lukker> i have a school task where it requires that i install the apache2 from source code
[09:26] <Lukker> #ducasse
[09:29] <Lukker> #ducasse  : i did downloaded the apr and apr-util and pcre files extract them and all seemed to work fine ,until now
[09:29] <blackflow> Lukker: you could install apache2 from deb-src, it should pull in all the buildtime dependencies, which is what you need. There may be additional deps if the versions from deb-src and what you're installing are different.
[09:30] <Lukker> i can not do that #blackflow. I know that that it would be much easier but i need to do it the hard way because of a school task
[09:31] <blackflow> then why are you asking here for help? :)
[09:31] <blackflow> I think there's #apache here on Freenode where you can ask about apache specific problems.
[09:32] <Lukker> well , i am almost done with the installation. I was looking for a tip regarding the pcre file
[09:32] <blackflow> Lukker: and btw # is a channel prefix on irc, not username
[09:32] <ducasse> Lukker: it's not really our job to do your schoolwork :) hint: apt-file
[09:33] <Lukker> thanks , i am new here so i am still learning :)
[09:33] <Lukker> #apache
[09:33] <blackflow> Lukker: /j #apache
[09:33] <Lukker> of course :) /j
[09:34] <Lukker> # /j #apache
[09:34] <bazhang> Lukker, #httpd
[09:34] <PCatinean> jink, and what if it is in the same directory, you pipe and grep or?
[09:37] <ducasse> PCatinean: he meant he wouldn't put the output file in the same dir if it had the same extension: 'cat *.tmpl > /tmp/newfile.tmpl'
[09:37] <jink> PCatinean: Don't do it in the same directory, or specify all input files.
[09:37] <PCatinean> ducasse, yes but what if I need to?
[09:38] <PCatinean> maybe exclude the final one from the *.tmpl selection
[09:38] <jink> "need" is a strong word.  You can do it elsewhere and then move the result.
[09:38] <jink> And keep in mind that with "cat *.tmpl" you can't specify the order.
[09:39] <ducasse> PCatinean: does it need to have the same extension?
[09:39] <Lukker> thank you bazhang
[09:39] <Lukker> #apache channel is not available
[09:39] <ducasse> Lukker: it's called #httpd iirc
[09:40] <PCatinean> jink, it shouldn't be important in this case (the order)
[09:44] <jink> PCatinean: Ok.
[09:50] <headref> hi
[09:50] <headref> how do I change my default editor , and also view which is my default text editor currently?
[09:52] <ducasse> headref: for gui or cli?
[09:52] <headref> cli
[09:53] <headref> vim
[09:53] <ducasse> set the EDITOR env variable
[09:53] <bossie> Anybody know how to use neard NCI over uart?
[09:54] <headref> ducasse: but how do I view echo $EDITOR is null ?
[09:54] <headref> and where to set I forgot it
[09:55] <headref> ok sudoers I think, but where
[09:55] <ducasse> headref: it's unset by default. put 'export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim' in .bashrc
[09:55] <headref> ok
[09:55] <headref> ducasse: but how do i view what's my current editor
[09:55] <headref> why does echo $EDITOR return null ?
[09:56] <headref> as it's vim set in the file of sudoers
[09:56] <ducasse> headref: i just told you, it's unset by default. what you set in sudoers is probably only what is used by visudo.
[09:57] <headref> Defaults        env_reset,editor=/usr/bin/vim:/usr/bin/vi
[09:57] <headref> ducasse: ahh
[09:58] <ducasse> headref: ok, so it exports that in sudo sessions. it does not affect normal sessions, though.
[09:58] <headref> but shall i write editor in capital letters or small letters, as important inbuilt variables, can make a difference
[09:58] <headref> ok caps
[09:59] <headref> shall I put a semicolon, as /usr/bin/vim:/usr/bin/vi in the export editor varialble
[10:00] <headref> but it has become a single sstring ducasse
[10:00] <ducasse> that's not a semicolon, but write it like i wrote it
[10:00] <headref> along with semicolon included
[10:01] <headref> ok
[10:01] <headref> so that's a colon : , and semicolon is ;
[10:02] <headref> But what how do i change my other default applications too, the same way in ~/.bashrc ?
[10:02] <ducasse> headref: what other applications?
[10:02] <headref> like GUI applications
[10:03] <ducasse> headref: that's done by your desktop environment, normally.
[10:03] <rizonz> does anyone know why I cannot ifdown a nic ? it's specified but it replies with...
[10:03] <rizonz> ~# ifdown eth1
[10:03] <rizonz> ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[10:03] <rizonz> but eth1 is configured
[10:03] <headref> ducasse: ok, so should be done by default startup applications, so should be easy, as ubuntu is.
[10:04] <ducasse> headref: you can set $BROWSER and $TERMINAL, but not everything obeys them
[10:04] <ducasse> rizonz: is it configured in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:09] <rizonz> ducasse: sure
[10:09] <rizonz> ducasse: it's also up
[10:14] <MrElendig> headref: also ~/.config/mimeapps.list
[10:14] <MrElendig> also don't run your editor as root, use sudoedit or similar
[10:20] <rizonz> ducasse: no clue ?
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> rizonz: best way to get your issue solved, is to re-ask your question all in one line to the channel
[10:22] <ducasse> rizonz: what does 'ip a sh dev eth1' say?
[10:23] <rizonz> ducasse: https://pastebin.com/4ntdLFAS
[10:24] <ducasse> rizonz: what about /run/network/ifstate?
[10:26] <rizonz> ducasse: permission denied ?
[10:27] <ducasse> rizonz: sudo cat /run/network/ifstate
[10:27] <rizonz> ducasse: get nothing back
[10:28] <ducasse> rizonz: ok, so something has forced that and other interfaces down, it seems. you can try ifdown --force, or reboot.
[10:29] <K_K_N> hi all, I am now stuck, I connected an HP PSC 1315 to my ubuntu computer and when I initially plug it in and power it on it shows up under lsusb in terminal but after a few seconds it disappears and sometimes if I continue running lsusb in terminal it will appear then suddenly disappear again
[10:30] <rizonz> ducasse: weird, my nics just work fine tho
[10:30] <K_K_N> I installed the HP software for ubuntu so now I am not sure which is the problem the printer or ubuntu?
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> K_K_N: can you tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugout/in your printer to see usefull errors
[10:30] <SimonNL> K_K_N: does it happen on all usb ports?
[10:30] <ducasse> rizonz: can you pastebin the interfaces file?
[10:31] <K_K_N> SimonNL, yes
[10:31] <K_K_N> ok lotuspsychje let me do that
[10:31] <rizonz> dinet: sure
[10:31] <rizonz> ducasse: ^
[10:32] <rizonz> ducasse: https://pastebin.com/MYmaWyWJ
[10:32] <rizonz> I have manually commented auto eth1
[10:32] <[vbm]> hi there, after the news ubuntu will drop unity for gnome next year I decided to give it a go now and installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop. I quite like it but for some reason, when I log into gnome, pulseaudio deamon fails to load. If I log into unity, i have no problems. If I log into unity, log off and then into gnome, neither. But If i log into gnome straight after turning my computer on or rebooting, I get no sound. Does anybody have an idea
[10:32] <[vbm]> of what could be the problem / point me in the right direction? I have a fair bit of googling without any luck and, needless to say, my skills are quite modest
[10:34] <ducasse> rizonz: remove either 'auto eth0' or 'allow-hotplug eth0', and uncomment 'auto eth1'
[10:34] <rizonz> ducasse: can do, but why ?
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> !sound | [vbm]
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> [vbm]: dmesg logs show anything usefull on audio?
[10:35] <ducasse> rizonz: because what you have now is incorrect?
[10:35] <K_K_N> lotuspsychje, can I paste the results somewhere so you can interpret for me?
[10:36] <EriC^^> ++
[10:36] <rizonz> ducasse: heh seems so but why is it incorrect ?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> K_K_N: hastebin it plz?
[10:38] <ducasse> rizonz: you can't have both auto and allow-hotplug for the same interface, and all interfaces need an auto/allow-hotplug - see 'man interfaces'
[10:38] <[vbm]> lotuspsychje: dmesg only shows issues with mei_txe (whatever that is) and lots of complaints about rtl8723bs (my wifi chip). syslog typically show multiple attempts to start the daemon and failing. My machine is a cheap 2-in-1 baytrail and I'm running 17.04 on a 4.11-rc5 kernel
[10:40] <[vbm]> ubottu: the applet normally shows the slider but no speaker next to it until I manage to start pulseaudio. once I do, i can play mp3 using aplay without problems. I checked the ubuntu sites you mentioned. will try alsa's
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> [vbm]: did this work on other ubuntu version? tried to boot another kernel?
[10:42] <necrophcodr_> I've got a problem on Ubuntu 14.04.5 with os-prober being unable to detect a different system i have
[10:43] <K_K_N> lotuspsychje, thanks I have pasted https://paste.ubuntu.com/24426073/
[10:43] <necrophcodr_> I've installed a distribution with a btrfs filesystem, but update-grub won't detect it.
[10:43] <ducasse> K_K_N: why aren't you running the ubuntu-supplied kernel?
[10:43] <ducasse> [vbm]: ^^
[10:44] <ducasse> K_K_N: sorry, wrong tab
[10:44] <[vbm]> lotuspsychje: I only managed to get sound to work on this machine recently, after finding a post with an ucm config. 4.11-rc5 significantly improved my system's stability.
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> K_K_N: seems alot of usb errors, did you try some other ports?
[10:44] <K_K_N> ducasse, not sure what you mean I donwloaded from ubuntu site and installed and just did the updates when ever it prompted me to do so?
[10:45] <ducasse> K_K_N: i sent to the wrong nick, sorry
[10:45] <[vbm]> ducasse: I downloaded the kernel from ubuntu's mainline, the current default isn't great with baytrail
[10:46] <ducasse> [vbm]: be aware that the mainline kernels are meant for testing only, and totally unsupported
[10:46] <K_K_N> lotuspsychje, I only have 3 and tried all of them I can do it again with the comman you gave me and paste again but will have to disconnect cause my USB modem is plugged into one of them
[10:46] <K_K_N> ducasse, no worries
[10:46] <K_K_N> lotuspsychje, I will do that be back in a bit
[10:47] <[vbm]> ducasse: thanks. I don't seem to have a sound problem on unity, so I'm assuming there is some difference in the way unity and gnome start
[10:48] <doit> hi,my irc server has build and it is running in back ,how to use the client connect it ?thanks
[10:48] <doit> help me
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> doit: this channel is for ubuntu support
[10:48] <bazhang> doit which ircd
[10:48] <ikonia> doit: you're running an IRC server but you don't know how to connect to it ?
[10:49] <doit> sorry
[10:49] <bcx> `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` only shows yakkety, where is zesty ?
[10:49] <bcx> from xenial
[10:49] <bazhang>  /msg alis list yourircd doit
[10:49] <doit> i can't find body teach me
[10:49] <ducasse> bcx: you can't go straight to zesty
[10:49] <ikonia> teach you what ?
[10:49] <bazhang> find the channel for it that way doit
[10:50] <ducasse> bcx: you need to upgrade to yakkety first, and you don't need (and shouldn't use) -d
[10:51] <doit> i don't find my chatroom
[10:51] <bazhang> doit which ircd
[10:51] <bcx> thx ducasse, what a pity i have to download 1GB more
[10:52] <doit> ircd-hybrid
[10:54] <doit> sorry  let me find again
[10:55] <K_K_N> back
[10:56] <rizonz> ducasse: ok thanks
[10:57] <K_K_N> lotuspsychje, what id did was unplug everything, I ran the command and then plugged printer into each usb port, waited for the output to stop then changed the USB port after trying all 3 I disconnect the printers usb cable plugged my wireless mouse and then my 3G modem
[10:57] <K_K_N> lotuspsychje, I then copied and pasted that info https://paste.ubuntu.com/24426135/
[11:01] <K_K_N> lotuspsychje, oh I forgot the last bit of info will probably be when I connected to the 3G network
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:05] <morsnowski> hi
[11:12] <cperrin88> Hey, I keep pulling my hair over a samba issue. I use Samba for shares. That works, but I need to create a folder that is not viewable by everyone. Whenever I disallow Everyone from viewing a folder even the owner get's access denied.
[11:12] <cperrin88> I can block specific users just fine.
[11:12] <cperrin88> Has anyone got a clue?
[11:19] <MustaKrakish> cperrin88, force use = <user>
[11:19] <MustaKrakish> *user
[11:20] <cperrin88> MustaKrakish: And then? I don't want to the whole share to be accessed by only one user. I just want users to be able to protect their own folders.
[11:20] <MustaKrakish> cperrin88, where are the directories? are they ~ folders?
[11:22] <K_K_N> lotuspsychje, any ideas?
[11:22] <K_K_N> or maybe somebody else?
[11:23] <cperrin88> They are just normal forlders on the share and I want to use the windows permission system to work as expected. I can deny acces to the folder for specific users, but as soon as I set the "Everyone" group to denied, no one can access the folder, even though the users I gave access to specifically.
[11:24] <MustaKrakish> cperrin88, that's working as expected then, if you deny everyone, then no one will have access
[11:24] <MustaKrakish> if you want to differentiate by read/write then maybe use ACLs
[11:24] <jldawson> Not imagined spectacular
[11:24] <cperrin88> I use ACLs
[11:25] <MustaKrakish> if users belong to groups, set access on a group level
[11:26] <jldawson> How many people are learning ubuntu?
[11:27] <K_K_N> lotuspsychje, ok what I will do is go use an internet cafe for now, you can pm me if I need to maybe just buy a new printer cause its a new USB cable cause originally we thought it was the cable or if you think its my laptop then I guess a either one will need to be replace but if its a setting of some sort then you can pm me the solution
[11:27] <K_K_N> lotuspsychje, thanks for your help
[11:34] <jldawson> See you here today and come back next time
[11:37] <necrophcodr_> I've installed a distribution with a btrfs filesystem, but update-grub won't detect it.
[11:37] <necrophcodr_> Anyone?
[11:37] <ikonia> what distro
[11:37] <ikonia> and why are you running update grub
[11:38] <necrophcodr_> ikonia, sabayon. I'm using Xubuntu 16.04 and want to be able to dual boot.
[11:38] <Guest99028> is here anyone who has iodine experience and could help me out a little bit?
[11:39] <ikonia> necrophcodr_: so this isn't an ubuntu problem then
[11:39] <necrophcodr_> Ubuntu and Xubuntu are my workstation distributions. I use those primarily. But for testing, I want to be able to dual boot.
[11:39] <ikonia> necrophcodr_: this isn't an ubuntu problem
[11:39] <necrophcodr_> Yes it is, because Ubuntu is supposed to detect it.
[11:39] <necrophcodr_> Should I ask in some grub or os-prober channel then?
[11:39] <ikonia> necrophcodr_: you need to look at how btrfs works and sharing pools
[11:40] <necrophcodr_> Ubuntu isn't installed with Btrfs.
[11:40] <ikonia> necrophcodr_: no, but the OS you think it should detect is
[11:40] <mcphail> necrophcodr_: I may be misremembering, but I think you have to have btrfs-tools installed
[11:40] <necrophcodr_> ikonia, i already have btrfs-tools installed on both systems, but is it not possible for os-prober to detect something like this?
[11:41] <ikonia> necrophcodr_: update-grub will write to the mbr of a disk - it's nothing to do with other os's
[11:41] <necrophcodr_> update-grub will execute `grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg`
[11:41] <necrophcodr_> I don't think it installs grub at all.
[11:41] <ikonia> necrophcodr_: os prober needs to be able to see the file systems of the other devices or a boot map
[11:42] <ikonia> necrophcodr_: it doesn't install grub at all, no
[11:42] <ikonia> that was bad wording on my part
[11:42] <necrophcodr_> how do i get os-prober to see other filesystems? it's the same disk
[11:42] <necrophcodr_> different partition
[11:42] <ikonia> necrophcodr_: can your ubuntu box see the btrfs pool
[11:42] <necrophcodr_> yes, and it wants to mount it using my filemanager. the other partition shows on my desktop.
[11:43] <ikonia> necrophcodr_: so if you manually call os-prober, what does it see
[11:43] <necrophcodr_> there's no output at all
[11:43] <necrophcodr_> `sudo os-prober` yields no output
[11:43] <FreddyP> after many hours and days to stop Ubuntu's stupid dns stub server and give control back to the network manager.  I gave up none of the hacks worked apart from dirty hack to manually edit /etc/resolv.conf.  It makes Ubuntu stupid on networks that have their own DNS server and want it to have FQDN
[11:43] <FreddyP> i gave up and went back to Debian which does it properly
[11:44] <ikonia> FreddyP: it means you don't know how to use it properly
[11:44] <FreddyP> ikonia: tell me now then
[11:45] <FreddyP> In Debian I just enter my own dns settings and confgire a search domain bang it worked right away
[11:45] <ikonia> FreddyP: I have no idea of the state of your system, or the detail of what you're trying to archieve other than a few high level comments
[11:45] <ikonia> FreddyP: you're not using debian, so what does that matter
[11:45] <FreddyP> i am now
[11:45] <hanshenrik> i think i found a bug, `libuser` is not a dependency of `system-config-samba` , but if you try to start `system-config-samba` without libuser installed, it will just crash with the message SystemError: could not open configuration file `/etc/libuser.conf': No such file or directory
[11:45] <blackflow> FreddyP: I solved my ubuntu DNS issues by forcing the config of /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[11:46] <FreddyP> yes that was the drity hack
[11:46] <ikonia> necrophcodr_: so thats what you need to investiage first
[11:46] <hanshenrik> so, when you `apt install system-config-samba` , apt should install libuser, too
[11:46] <blackflow> FreddyP: as of 16.10 my usual custom setups with local DNS and a list of domains for "search" stopped working via NetworkManager setup for connection, had to force it via that config
[11:47] <blackflow> FreddyP: and with 17.04, systemd-resolved is the only resolver (16.10 has it in combo with dnsmasq if I'm not mistaken)
[11:47] <ioria> hanshenrik, i think they are 2 pkgs: libuser1 and python-libuser
[11:47] <FreddyP> blackflow: yes i figured that out but did not want the headache
[11:48] <FreddyP> so I got Debian 9  and all is well
[11:48] <blackflow> FreddyP: well, powerusing Ubuntu comes with a does of headache :)
[11:48] <blackflow> yeah I switched my desktop over do Stretch too when nvidia borkage on 16.10 became too much to bear.
[11:49] <FreddyP> Ubuntu should have any easy option to reliquish control from dnsmasq and give it back to the network manager
[11:49] <necrophcodr_> ikonia, that's what i've been looking into. i couldn't solve it myself, so here i am.
[11:49] <blackflow> FreddyP: I though NM was always using dnsmasq? Does NM have resolving capabilties?
[11:50] <ioria> hanshenrik, system-config-samba depends on  python-libuser and this one depends on libuser1
[11:50] <hanshenrik> ioria, oh kk
[11:51] <FreddyP> blackflow: NM does not , It should be simple enter you companies DNS server,   but it should resovle FQDN on the netowrk but no it does not
[11:52] <alensap> thks
[11:57] <blackflow> FreddyP: ah from what I see it has dnsmasq built in, at least on Stretch
[12:00] <modles> hey all
[12:01] <modles> how can i verify that usb is all working and happy, drivers wise etc?
[12:01] <blackflow> modles: you can check via dmesg if there's any error or complaint when you plug it in
[12:02] <modles> its showing up fine in lsusb, but not working
[12:02] <ioria> !info usbview
[12:06] <Langley> Help, I can't get Japanese text input to work in Ubuntu Gnome 16.04. I've installed  fcitx and mozc, but fcitx doesn't have any option for fcitx or japanese or anything
[12:06] <modles> i get unable to init server if i do usbview
[12:06] <modles> weird
[12:08] <modles> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
[12:09] <ioria> modles, gksu usbview
[12:09] <modles> (gksu:1682): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:09] <bonsaitree> How do i bring a wireless network interface down via terminal?
[12:09] <ioria> modles, gksu gedit
[12:10] <scottjl> bonsaitree: ifconfig wlan0 down (or whatever the interface is)
[12:10] <modles> bonsaitree: sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[12:10] <modles> ioria:  same result
[12:10] <bonsaitree> scottjl, modles , Isn't that for a wired interface only?
[12:10] <ioria> modles, so you have other problems
[12:10] <modles> is there a different way i can check usb?
[12:10] <scottjl> bonsaitree: any network interface
[12:11] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Well it doesn't work then, i've already tried that
[12:11] <modles> bonsaitree:  pastebin us the output of ifconfig
[12:12] <scottjl> bonsaitree: sudo ip link set wlan0 down
[12:12] <scottjl> if you don't have ifconfig
[12:12] <ioria> that ^
[12:12] <bonsaitree> modles:Turns out it doesn't refresh the state appropriately, tried to connect to a network and now it states that the interface is down. Thanks anyway
[12:13] <EriC^^> "'
[12:14] <modles> i know its a driver issue i just cant figure out what
[12:15] <FreddyP> blackflow: on debian 9 my /erc/resolve.conf   # Generated by NetworkManager  nameserver 192.168.1.10
[12:15] <FreddyP> yeah correctly powered by the network manager as it should be
[12:17] <bonsaitree> modles:Where should i search for the module loaded for the /n wi-fi adapter that i inserted? Am i able to edit its .conf file as i was able with the iwlwifi?
[12:17] <scottjl> bonsaitree: check dmesg and look for usb insertion. module name should be around there
[12:20] <bonsaitree> scottjl, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24426450/
[12:20] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Can't see the module name
[12:20] <modles> output of dmesg http://sprunge.us/fEeb
[12:20] <scottjl> lsmod and post that
[12:24] <modles> damn im using screen, and cant get all the output of lsmod
[12:24] <scottjl> lsmod > /tmp/foo
[12:24] <bonsaitree> modles, scottjl , http://paste.ubuntu.com/24426466/
[12:26] <scottjl> ok so there's your module. google "rt2800usb module options" and start reading. are you looking for something in particular?
[12:26] <modles> https://pastebin.com/eRugDJZE
[12:27] <bonsaitree> scottjl, I want to experiment with this adapter too, since i am getting the same speeds with the Tenda as i am getting with the 6200-N which we fixed yesterday. The speeds are overlapping, want to see if i can make the Tenda perform better by tweaking something.
[12:28] <modles> i cant see anything usb related in my lsmod
[12:31] <scottjl> bonsaitree: i'm not finding much in the way of documentation for module options for that driver
[12:31] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Me neither
[12:34] <pandinus> hello
[12:34] <pandinus> anybody here experimenting with LINE Messenger??
[12:35] <pandinus> nope
[12:36] <scottjl> this is more the ubuntu support channel, not line messenger channel.
[12:37] <backbox680> hello
[12:38] <backbox680> bib
[12:50] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Nope, it turns out that as soon as i connect to a wireless network with the second (USB Tenda) wireless interface, the built in Intel 6200-N activates automatically. I've tried with 1) ifconfig wlan0 down and 2) ip link set wlan0 down.
[12:51] <bonsaitree> And i don't want them both active in the same time.
[12:52] <scottjl> bonsaitree: ifconfig -a should list each interface with it's name. you need to turn the intel one off and the other one on. they shouldn't be linked, unless network manager is doing it.
[12:52] <scottjl> bonsaitree: if you're using network manager, don't try the command line, if you're using the command line, don't use network manager, they will clash with each other
[12:55] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Alright
[13:00] <kashaka> What was the name of that game that improves short term memory? Blink, Blinx, Blint?
[13:05] <bonsaitree> Lol, disabling the Wi-Fi radio in BIOS, disables the overall ability of using wireless in any case (additional wireless adapters won't work too). Why is the system developed in such a way?
[13:05] <L00P3X> Hi ^^ ... how it is that i used to apt-get install Lxde-desktop and now i'm booting up as Lubuntu xD
[13:08] <ducasse> L00P3X: which package did you install?
[13:09] <L00P3X> ducasse, I used tu sudo apt-get install Lxde-desktop.. and installed it as whole whit all packages.. nothing more
[13:09] <Sinned> jo
[13:10] <ducasse> L00P3X: there is no package called lxde-desktop, do you mean lubuntu-desktop?
[13:11] <L00P3X> oh...
[13:11] <L00P3X> ducasse, yes :\
[13:12] <ducasse> L00P3X: you understand now, then :)
[13:13] <L00P3X> this was genuine a abuse of terminal of mine
[13:14] <L00P3X> not that what happened would hurt me as much.. but how could I switch back?
[13:18] <K_K_N> anybody know what this error means and how to solve for ubuntu
[13:19] <K_K_N> disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
[13:21] <dudeji> Hi it may be very stupid question but  can i create zfs paritition on a working disk , i mean , i already have data in ntfs mode and i want to create a folder and use that folder as zfs ?
[13:22] <scottjl> you can't create a folder and use that as zfs, but you can make a disk partition and use that if you just want to dabble with zfs. i wouldn't use it for anything serious
[13:22] <PipeItToDevNull> dudeji, You can touch a file, fllocate it to the size you wan, run makfs on it then mount it as a file system
[13:22] <PipeItToDevNull> Wow, I cannot type.
[13:22] <L00P3X> dudeji, you could may format as it an usb drive
[13:22] <scottjl> you don't mkfs zfs file systems.
[13:23] <PipeItToDevNull> Then ignore me
[13:23] <SchrodingersScat> dudeji: I think you basically were asking about this: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/819-5461/gazcr/index.html
[13:23] <scottjl> god no. not oracle's docs.
[13:23] <scottjl> http://zfsonlinux.org/
[13:24] <scottjl> https://pthree.org/2012/04/17/install-zfs-on-debian-gnulinux/
[13:24] <scottjl> that second link is VERY useful
[13:24] <SchrodingersScat> the point is that yes you can use files as devices, but it's not recommended
[13:24] <scottjl> i use zfs on a 16.04 server with 35tb of data.
[13:24] <dudeji> i was looking for like : i already have data in my partition which is ntfs , can i somehow safely use ntfs partition and create zfs on a folder and allocate some size and use that.
[13:24] <scottjl> some year i'll change it over to btrfs
[13:25] <scottjl> dudeji, why would you want to?
[13:25] <scottjl> zfs is a file system, it isn't a.. folder
[13:25] <dudeji> i was just not willing to create on more disk paritition
[13:25] <scottjl> but what's your intention?
[13:25] <SchrodingersScat> dudeji: it would use files not folders, and the answer is yes, but not recommended because then you have to rely on ntfs, which is a :( fs
[13:27] <scottjl> dudeji: what is it you're trying to accomplish?
[13:28] <dudeji> i have install DalmatinerDB and it requires zfs only
[13:28] <scottjl> ahh
[13:29] <scottjl> yeah. you really need to set up a disk partition with zfs
[13:29] <scottjl> if you're just testing, you could use a usb drive if you can't use any sort of internal drive. performance would be poor.
[13:30] <scottjl> why are you using ntfs on linux? or you're not even running linux?
[13:38] <root____1> hi how are you ,everybody .
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> root____1: best not join irc as root
[13:45] <blackflow> scottjl: PipeItToDevNull: it should be possible to mount a file as loopback device, which is basically a block device and it should be usable for ZFS
[13:45] <blackflow> it would need to be pre-created for wanted size
[13:46] <transhuman> anyone know why installing packages in ubuntu would be real slow...seems like it works just real slow
[13:46] <scottjl> blackflow: yeah, maybe for testing around. but i certainly wouldn't use it for anything serious
[13:46] <blackflow> also, ZFS on Linux is quite stable and production ready. As with any other filesystem, proper backups are in order.
[13:46] <HitmanAnonymus> Good morning
[13:46] <blackflow> scottjl: sure, the performance would kill
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> transhuman: getting any errors?
[13:46] <blackflow> especially ZFS on a file loopback on NTFS :)
[13:47] <scottjl> i've been using zfs on my home server for 8 years now.
[13:47] <blackflow> (I think a kitten died just by typing that out)
[13:47] <transhuman> what log would they be in lotuspsychje
[13:47] <scottjl> dumped lvm and never looked back.
[13:47] <logikos> Hi, I am a long term mint user who purchased a dell laptop with ubuntu on it (unity de) and things are not working as I expected.  for example when i do 'sudo apt-get install sshfs' I get E: Package 'sshfs' has no installation candidate'
[13:47] <blackflow> scottjl: I've been using it on FreeBSD for over a year and on Linux as of Xenial
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> transhuman: what kind of things showed up when you installed?
[13:48] <PipeItToDevNull> scottjl, I use a loop device that has a LUKS on it for my cloud storage on a VPS without issue
[13:48] <logikos> so i opend up some software manager and tried to install hexchat or xchat so that I could come here and it failed because of dependencies ... so now i'm on my old mint laptop chating with you
[13:48] <transhuman> I am in the middle of an upgrade from one version to second to latest the second was slow but succeeded
[13:48] <logikos> obviously I am missing something ... where do i start please?
[13:48] <scottjl> blackflow: i've been debating converting over to btrfs. :-/
[13:48] <transhuman> third seems to be doing the same thing lotuspsychje
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> transhuman: wich version to wich?
[13:49] <blackflow> logikos: sshfs is in universe, do you have the repo enabled?
[13:49] <transhuman> 15.04 to 16.04 to 17.04 I think
[13:49] <logikos> blackflow: yes, i beleive so
[13:50] <scottjl> PipeItToDevNull: luks != zfs
[13:50] <blackflow> scottjl: don't. I ran it for a year along ZFS (on a different server) for testing. It's awful. Bugs aside, the design decisions are too bad.
[13:50] <PipeItToDevNull> scottjl, A file system is a file system, it sees and uses the file all the same
[13:50] <scottjl> blackflow: thanks. that's good to know. yeah the fact it's still beta (imho) has kept me from making any sort of move.
[13:50] <scottjl> PipeItToDevNull: zfs isn't a "file system"
[13:50] <blackflow> scottjl: see also https://wiki.debian.org/Btrfs#WARNINGS
[13:50] <scottjl> not at all in the traditional sense
[13:51] <blackflow> scottjl: I'd say it recently reverted to alpha what with the raid breakage
[13:52] <scottjl> yeah like i said, the more i read about issues, the more scared i got and i just stopped reading. i'll look again in a year, or two, or three. lol
[13:52] <blackflow> scottjl: pretty much the bugs are such that it's "stable" only as a simple fs with no aditional features. basically ext4 CoW
[13:52] <blackflow> scottjl: and recently I've read on reddit some horror stories about it completely breaking after power failure and hard reset
[13:52] <blackflow> so... no thanks, for me :)
[13:52] <logikos> odd, I had universe but not main enabled ... i assumed (obviously foolish of me) that main would have been enabled by default lol
[13:52] <scottjl> well i don't use many of the features. i use it for media storage and a floating pool vs. fixed partition sizes (this is basically a plex server)
[13:52] <logikos> things are working better now
[13:53] <scottjl> (though i'm using now on a production foreman/katello/puppet master at work for katello storage)
[13:53] <blackflow> scottjl: single drives or some kind of raid?
[13:53] <scottjl> at home? 7 drives in a single pool
[13:54] <LukePatterson> How can i locate webcamera-kernel-module on Linux?
[13:54] <scottjl> 1 hot spare
[13:54] <blackflow> scottjl: but what raid level?
[13:54] <scottjl> z+1
[13:54] <blackflow> scottjl: ah you're talking about ZFS, I thought that was btrfs
[13:54] <scottjl> again. it's media (tv, movies, music). i'm not hugely concerned about taking a hit.
[13:55] <transhuman> lotuspsychje, getting this error like a 100,000 times source ID 2300 was not found  when attempting to remove it
[13:55] <scottjl> yeah. i'm running ZFS. i was considering converting it over to btrfs, but the more i read about issues the more scared off i got.
[13:55] <scottjl> oops
[13:55] <imbezol> after upgrading my system from 16.04 to 16.10 my networking stopped working. i see my eth0 was renamed to enp38s0. i've done some reading and understand why and i'm fine with that. however, i can't get it to come online. if i try setting it up in interfaces it says that interface doesn't exist
[13:56] <blackflow> scottjl: yeah, a native in-kernel thing would be nicer. I'll check it out too in a few years :)
[13:56] <scottjl> imbezol: ifconfig -a
[13:56] <imbezol> scottjl: in ifconfig -a it does show it, and i can use it if i manually dhclient it
[13:56] <scottjl> imbezol: pastebin your interfaces file?
[13:56] <scottjl> and your ifconfig while you're at it
[13:57] <imbezol> hmm.. tricky without networking
[13:57] <imbezol> oh, i'll bring it up manually
[13:57] <scottjl> hmm
[13:58] <blackflow> enp38? wow, lots of bus there
[13:59] <imbezol> scottjl: interestingly, i can work with the interface using ifconfig, but ifdown and ifup return "Unknown interface enp38s0"
[13:59] <imbezol> it's like the scripts don't allow that naming scheme
[14:00] <dudeji> zfs is used by  DalmatinerDB and yes i am using ubuntu.
[14:00] <blackflow> imbezol: make sure you're allowing predictable naming completely. see this, section "I don't like it", and apply in reverse:   https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[14:00] <elichai2> hi, I want to move from Unity to KDE plasma, should I make a fresh install of Kubuntu or it doesn't matter?
[14:00] <blackflow> imbezol: reverse = opposite to advices given in those steps, so make sure there's no /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link for example
[14:01] <scottjl> elichai2: if you're not short on disk space, just install plasma-desktop
[14:01] <imbezol> blackflow: checked and there's no such file
[14:02] <elichai2> scottjl: i'm not(at least not by 1-2GB), but i'm worried about performance, I have my system for ~3 years and I think I got lot's of unused packages, does it affect performance?
[14:02] <scottjl> dudeji: you could set up a file, mount it via loopback, and set that up as a zfs device, but it would be horrible performance.
[14:03] <scottjl> elichai2: unused packages really don't affect performance if you're not using them. it's just some program sitting unused on your disk, taking up space, but that's it usually
[14:03] <L00P3X> i'm sorry.. but where to find the upper application bar where to find "file, view, tool, command, help" over lxde desktop?
[14:03] <scottjl> elichai2: like that vitamixer you bought 10 years ago sitting in a closet unused.
[14:04] <elichai2> that's if i'm sure that I got no process running there that's deprecated
[14:04] <scottjl> well you can always do a top/htop and see what's taking up cpu and prune what you don't like
[14:04] <scottjl> but if you really want to clean house, yeah, back up anything important, reinstall, restore.
[14:04] <imbezol> /etc/systemd/system/networking.service does "ifquery --read-environment --list --exclude=lo" as part of it's ExecStartPre, which returns "Unknown interface enp38s0"
[14:05] <imbezol> this makes me wonder if ubuntu can actually use the interfaces with this naming scheme
[14:05] <elichai2> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mbjamqkb/
[14:05] <imbezol> as in, i'm not sure how the networking service could ever succeed in starting
[14:06] <ducasse> L00P3X: lxde doesn't have a global menu or whatever it's called, the menu is in the application window
[14:07] <scottjl> elichai2: i really couldn't be a good judge of what does and doesn't belong on your system from one little snip. i dont know your server at all
[14:07] <bencc> what the 2 means in 2755 directory mod? is it safe for a font folder?
[14:08] <tgm4883> imbezol: FWIW, my 17.04 desktop doesn't return anything when I run that command
[14:08] <imbezol> tgm4883: are you using the enp naming scheme?
[14:08] <L00P3X> ducasse, somehow is missing in my case.. if i right click or click hexchat icon i can't come over file
[14:08] <elichai2> scottjl: hmm ok, and it's a desktop. but thanks. I'm just trying to think if installing fresh really worth all the trouble of backup&restore and re-configuring everything
[14:08] <tgm4883> imbezol: enp3s0
[14:08] <elichai2> and i'm already forgot half of my configurations lol
[14:09] <imbezol> tgm4883: and when you run ifdown or ifup does it give an error?
[14:09] <tgm4883> imbezol: also, I don't have that file you're talking about. And looking at it, I don't think you should either
[14:09] <ducasse> L00P3X: open the hexchat window, you will see the menu
[14:09] <imbezol> tgm4883: really... interesting... so what starts your networking?
[14:10] <tgm4883> imbezol: well, IIRC systemd startup scripts aren't in that folder unless you added it as an override
[14:10] <L00P3X> ducasse, i am on hexchat.. there is no menù.. nowhere
[14:10] <tgm4883> imbezol: I do get an unknown interface error
[14:10] <ducasse> L00P3X: then i have no clue, sorry.
[14:11] <scottjl> elichai2: well it gives you a chance to clean out the crud. ;-)
[14:11] <tgm4883> imbezol: the default startup scripts for systemd are in /lib/systemd/system/
[14:12] <geri> hi, how can i merge 2 csv files?
[14:12] <tgm4883> imbezol: everything in "/etc/systemd/system/" is an override file https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[14:13] <geri> i tried: awk 'BEGIN { OFS = FS = "," } { n = $NF; sub(/,[^,]*$/,""); sum[$0] += n} END { for (i in sum) print i,sum[i] }' frequency_map*.csv > combined.csv
[14:13] <geri> but it doesnt sum col 4
[14:13] <L00P3X> ducasse, you know how to refresh the lxde? or how to default or something?
[14:14] <ducasse> L00P3X: you can try #lubuntu
[14:14] <ikonia> refresh lxde ?
[14:14] <L00P3X> ducasse, maybe.. thank you
[14:15] <L00P3X> ikonia, the menu bar is missing on my lxde.. over hexchat thers no way to file --> view list
[14:15] <ikonia> L00P3X: just reboot your box
[14:15] <L00P3X> ikonia, or everyting else.. the bar is missing
[14:16] <L00P3X> ikonia, how to :\
[14:16] <ikonia> L00P3X: sudo reboot
[14:16] <imbezol> tgm4883: so the file /etc/systemd/system/network-online.target.wants/networking.service is actually a symlink into /lib/systemd/system/
[14:16] <imbezol> and it contains the ifquery part in that file
[14:17] <L00P3X> ikoia,  you say?... i will give it a try
[14:17] <vmx32> biirrl
[14:18] <bencc> why /usr/share/fonts has mod 0755 while /usr/local/share/fonts/ has mod 2755?
[14:19] <scottjl> bencc: so files created in /u/l/s/fonts have gid staff ?
[14:20] <bencc> scottjl: what does it means? why do I need gid staff? is it less secure to put fonts there?
[14:21] <ducasse> bencc: see the chmod man page
[14:21] <imbezol> tgm4883: so after adding an entry to interfaces for enp38s0 i was able to start the service
[14:21] <bencc> ducasse: I did. still don't understand the difference and security implications if any of having 2755 mod on a font dir
[14:21] <scottjl> bencc: no it's not less secure. i guess so anyone else in group staff can copy/modify/remove files in that directory
[14:22] <bencc> scottjl:thanks
[14:22] <scottjl> because perms on /usr/local are less "strict" than /usr
[14:22] <scottjl> so i guess their thought is to let someone who has "staff" access but not "root" access the ability to modify fonts in that directory
[14:22] <scottjl> only root could modify /usr/share/fonts
[14:24] <scottjl> you could chmod 0755 /usr/local/share/fonts; chown root. /usr/local/share/fonts if you wanted and it should work fine i suppose.
[14:29] <mdevi> Hey guys, was legacy (BIOS) install dropped from UB17.04 Desktop?
[14:29] <bonsaitree> How do i completely wipe a kernel image from the system? Or how do i tell the system explicitly which kernel image to use? Am i allowed to remove a kernel image if i am currently using it (although it may cause the system to crash), with root access?
[14:29] <bonsaitree> To which system it will "migrate" in a scenario where i am allowed to wipe it if i am using it, after the crash?
[14:30] <bonsaitree> To which kernel image*
[14:30] <scottjl> removing a currently running kernel is baaaaaad.
[14:30] <mdevi> UB17.04 server seems to have a vmlinuz / initrd, Desktop only has vmlinux.efi, I need to legacy PXE boot UB17.04 desktop
[14:30] <Murii> do you guys use Skype? Is it safe? I mean does it spy ?
[14:30] <selckin> define spy
[14:30] <ikonia> mdevi: it depends what hardware you install on what you get
[14:31] <Murii> selckin, get data from your pc
[14:31] <scottjl> bonsaitree: grub controls what kernel you boot into. you should see a selection screen for a few seconds on startup
[14:31] <blackflow> Murii: probably :)
[14:31] <mdevi> ikonia: the ubuntu_desktop-17.04-amd64 image doesnt seem to have a legacy BIOS vmlinuz/initrd to PXE boot
[14:31] <scottjl> you can remove a non-running kernel
[14:31] <ikonia> Murii: skype is a closed source product, no-one in ubuntu will have any more insight you
[14:31] <ikonia> mdevi: ahh to pxe boot it
[14:31] <bonsaitree> scottjl, I know, but how do i tell the system which will be the initial kernel image that should be used on startup?
[14:32] <blackflow> bonsaitree: GRUB_DEFAULT index in /etc/default/grub  iirc
[14:32] <mdevi> I can't find anything about it being dropped, and it's there in the ubuntu_server 17.04 image (already tested / working on my PXE server) So I'm wondering if it was dropped...
[14:32] <ikonia> mdevi: use the server one (I've not done research into the pxe options for 17.04)
[14:32] <mdevi> sure thing I'll give it a go :)
[14:33] <ikonia> mdevi: it's only for a "pre boot" until you install it, so it shouldn't matter
[14:33] <scottjl> bonsaitree: i wouldn't advise changing kernels unless you know what/why you're doing it.
[14:34] <blackflow> bonsaitree: seconded, what scottjl said
[14:34] <bonsaitree> scottjl, I simply want to use the stable kernel version, because i switched to 4.8 yesterday when we were trying to fix the wifi
[14:35] <scottjl> bonsaitree: ah.
[14:35] <bonsaitree> scottjl, What? :D
[14:35] <scottjl> when you boot, do you see the grub load screen?
[14:35] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Yes
[14:35] <scottjl> bonsaitree: some times it helps to understand what you're trying to accomplish in order to give you the best answer.
[14:35] <skinux> Is there a GUI app that will tell me how much RAM applications are using?
[14:35] <scottjl> so boot, go back down to whatever your previous kernel was, the just uninstall the 4.8 one
[14:36] <bonsaitree> scottjl, With synaptic?
[14:36] <blackflow> skinux: "System Monitor", installed by default on GNOME and Unity systems, should help
[14:36] <scottjl> if that's how you installed 4.8, sure
[14:36] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Nope, it was via terminal
[14:36] <smokey-screen> Hello all - Can I ask your opinion of Ubuntus FDE compared to a windows alternative such as Veracrypt FDE - Is it as secure given the correct key length?
[14:37] <skinux> Thnks
[14:37] <scottjl> ok. so whatever command you used on the command line. use purge instead of install
[14:37] <bonsaitree> scottjl, But i don't know the "terminal way" of uninstalling a kernel
[14:37] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Okay, thanks
[14:37] <scottjl> i'm guessing you did apt-get install kernel-4.8.whatever right?
[14:37] <scottjl> swap out install for purge
[14:37] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Can't remember, i will see in the log
[14:37] <scottjl> yeah check your history
[14:38] <scottjl> history | grep -i kernel
[14:38] <blackflow> smokey-screen: I have no idea how strong Veracrypt is, but LUKS ("the" linux disk encryption system) is with default settings.
[14:38] <imbezol> seems roxterm is no longer in 17.10. what's a good replacement terminal?
[14:38] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Was thinking about irc logs, but that will be faster for sure, did not know that, thanks :)
[14:38] <scottjl> np
[14:38] <eva> hi
[14:39] <smokey-screen> blackflow: With a key of 40 Char + would LUKS be adequate to secure sensitive client and corporate information?
[14:40] <madebyme> my Ubuntu don't have gui like gnome what can i do
[14:40] <blackflow> smokey-screen: I'd say yes, we use it like that. aes-xts (default) is pretty secure with such long passphrases
[14:41] <blackflow> smokey-screen: just remember that WrenchSecurity(tm) renders it all weak :)
[14:41] <blackflow> smokey-screen: https://xkcd.com/538/ if you didn't get the ref :)
[14:42] <madebyme> plz help me dude
[14:42] <smokey-screen> blackflow: Random chars, no dictionary, just reassuring myself of its security. Ive no experience of of Wrench, I shall check out your link, thank you
[14:42] <blackflow> :)
[14:43] <bonsaitree> Interesting, since i am using this kernel, the alt+tab process is accompanied by this kind of transition animation, like the video driver is not making a smooth transition: http://cosketch.com/Saved/p8yJQJPy
[14:43] <scottjl> lol
[14:43] <scottjl> wrench > all
[14:43] <blackflow> always :)
[14:44] <smokey-screen> blackflow: somewhat comical however it gets the point across! Thank you - I would happily hand over the laptop in the event of a mugging or such, just in case of theft from location etc
[14:45] <ekee> anyone here?
[14:45] <smokey-screen> blackflow: thanks for your time + input
[14:45] <ducasse> smokey-screen: afaik veracrypt is/was also available for linux
[14:45] <blackflow> smokey-screen: yeah :) It's (LUKS is) very good for situations whn your laptop/disk is stolen, or for servers when they get replaced in case of failure (who knows where they end up).
[14:45] <mdevi> ikonia: that seems to be working :) cheers
[14:45] <blackflow> smokey-screen: they = disks
[14:46] <ekee> i got a question! i have a MSI mobo and when i try install ubuntu budgie it wont work
[14:46] <ekee> i got a question! i have a MSI mobo and when i try install ubuntu budgie it wont work
[14:46] <scottjl> poor bird
[14:46] <ekee> ty scott
[14:46] <rulezzz> hi Ill just want to connect to a samba share folder I use Thunar and put smb://ipshare I put Username and Password and nothing
[14:47] <ekee> #support
[14:48] <smokey-screen> ducasse: blackflow: Varacrypt Linux is available for encrypted files but not FDE - Seems LUKS is an appropriate and fulfilling protocol - cheers guys
[14:48] <elichai2> 17.04 is ready to use?
[14:49] <eva> how can i get my win10 back by unstalling linux?
[14:49] <compdoc> eva, were you dual booting?
[14:50] <madebyme> eva : simple formats ext partition and format in  primary partition and install windows
[14:50] <madebyme> ntfs patition
[14:53] <madebyme> what
[14:54] <speeder> have bizarre problem: every time computer sleeps, LDM stops working
[14:54] <speeder> have bizarre problem: every time computer sleeps, LDM stops working
[14:55] <eva> i use dual booting
[14:56] <eva> :/
[14:58] <EriC^^> eva: what's your problem?
[14:58] <eva> i want to get windows 10 back
[14:58] <EriC^^> eva: after you installed linux it disappeared?
[14:58] <eva> yeah
[14:58] <immu> eva: explain you want your windows back
[14:58] <eva> :(
[14:58] <immu> hmm
[14:59] <scottjl> did you format your disk and lose it?
[14:59] <eva> yes
[14:59] <eva> i think i did that by mistake
[14:59] <immu> eva:  so you nuked your windows partition
[14:59] <scottjl> you'll have to reinstall it from scratch/recovery
[14:59] <EriC^^> eva: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" in your terminal and paste the link it gives you here
[14:59] <compdoc> have to reinstall win10
[14:59] <eva> :(
[14:59] <EriC^^> eva: it can be fixed, dont worry
[14:59] <compdoc> its easy
[14:59] <blackflow> eva: do what EriC^^ said first
[14:59] <eva> k
[15:01] <eva> hmm
[15:01] <EriC^^> ?
[15:02] <eva> idk
[15:02] <eva> i dont get it
[15:02] <EriC^^> you dont get what?
[15:02] <EriC^^> you typed it but no link/ nothing?
[15:02] <immu> eva:  copy paste the output
[15:02] <immu> link
[15:02] <eva> wait i got my link
[15:02] <eva> ^^
[15:03] <speeder> have bizarre problem: every time computer sleeps, LDM stops working
[15:03] <eva> i got the link but now what?
[15:04] <EriC^^> eva: paste it here
[15:04] <eva> ok
[15:04] <gnubie> EriC^^> the command responded with "use netcat" for me
[15:04] <eva> http://termbin.com/4ls9
[15:04] <eva> there
[15:04] <eva> :)
[15:04] <EriC^^> gnubie: it does that for an empty output sometimes
[15:05] <eva> i want to use windows10 and linux on same pc
[15:05] <EriC^^> eva: did you have important information in windows10 that you need?
[15:05] <eva> idk
[15:05] <immu> Install Windows10and then Install Ubuntu after that
[15:05] <eva> i dont know
[15:06] <eva> i had windows 10 before i installed linux
[15:06] <immu> if you have important data you should probably take your pc for data recovery
[15:06] <eva> ooh
[15:06] <eva> how?
[15:06] <immu> eva:  you must have chosen the first option to erase everything
[15:06] <EriC^^> eva: do you want windows back?
[15:06] <eva> yeah
[15:06] <eva> yup
[15:06] <eva> i want it
[15:07] <EriC^^> eva: ok, boot a live usb of ubuntu and come back here
[15:07] <eva> i already got win10 downloaed from official site
[15:07] <eva> ok
[15:07] <EriC^^> it might be corrupted, but you'll get most of the stuff back
[15:07] <immu> do you have the key for Windows key or a sticker on your laptop
[15:07] <eva> no
[15:07] <eva> i need key
[15:08] <EriC^^> i think the key is in the bios now since win8?
[15:08] <immu> if your laptop is recent one it won't ask you for it
[15:08] <eva> its win10
[15:08] <immu> it will be in BIOS
[15:08] <dax> UEFI, specifically. But yeah, usually it is.
[15:08] <eva> :/
[15:08] <immu> your laptop had windows10 installed when your bought your laptop
[15:08] <eva> how can i get live usb of ubuntu?
[15:08] <immu> you make one
[15:09] <eva> it had cracked win7
[15:09] <edward__> can I somehow extract linux16 command from 32bit ubuntu into 64bit one ?
[15:09] <dopiwan> Does anyone use PRTG to monitor ubuntu servers?  I was hoping for some suggestions on which sensors will help me monitor system performance including CPU/Memory/Disk/Bandwidth and Network Connections... any suggestions?
[15:09] <eva> :(
[15:09] <immu> so you don't have a licensed version of Windows
[15:10] <eva> no i just bought the pc from scrats
[15:10] <blackflow> dopiwan: PRTG no, but I use Munin
[15:10] <eva> i had win7 before win10
[15:10] <eva> :)
[15:11] <immu> did you install Windows10, was it running when you installed Ubuntu
[15:11] <Mshangao> I'm just newbie :D
[15:11] <dopiwan> blackflow: does that install on the server itself?  if so, what's the performance overhead like?
[15:11] <Mshangao> Hello everyone :P
[15:11] <eva> i want to keep linux and put win10 ;)
[15:11] <immu> see even i have windows10 and ubuntu as dual boot
[15:11] <blackflow> dopiwan: yes, there's master that collects data and "nodes" that run the metrics when called, default is every 5 minutes
[15:11] <eva> it was running then i installed linux
[15:12] <dopiwan> blackflow: "master" as in that data can be sent to a collection server?  do you know if that data can get fed to Splunk?
[15:12] <blackflow> dopiwan: the nodes are fairly light perl daemons and the actual performance impact depends on the metrics you collect and with which plugins, there's lots of them
[15:12] <eva> i got win10 iso file on my pc
[15:12] <blackflow> dopiwan: I don't know if it can be fed to Splunk, but the db is simple rrd files on the master side
[15:12] <immu> eva:  can you check when you reboot, it might have windows10 entry in the grub menu
[15:12] <eva> my usb is small for 4.3GB
[15:13] <eva> it dosent
[15:13] <eva> immu, it dosent
[15:13] <dopiwan> blackflow:  thanks, the demo site looks pretty nifty... better if I could integrate into PRTG somehow
[15:13] <immu> eva:  sure
[15:14] <blackflow> dopiwan: munin nodes have snmp plugins too if that helps
[15:14] <dopiwan> blackflow: does it have a dependency on snmpd ?
[15:14] <blackflow> dopiwan: I don't know, sorry
[15:14] <dopiwan> np thx
[15:15] <eva> yes immu im sure
[15:16] <immu> it looks basically your whole partition has being deleted when you chose to install Ubuntu
[15:16] <eva> hmm
[15:16] <edward__> I extracted hirens boot iso into /iso/ folder I know it boots from my USB on this machine the catch is I need to put menu entry in grub 2 on another machine ubuntu 16.04 :/
[15:17] <edward__> amd64
[15:17] <eva> :(
[15:17] <ikonia> edward__: what are you talking about ?
[15:18] <EriC^^> eva: if you want any data back from windows, use the live usb you used to install ubuntu and boot it, or get another live usb from ubuntu.com
[15:18] <immu> do you have a legally purchased copy of Windows?
[15:18] <edward__> the question is how to create boot entry for extracted dos a like iso in grub 2 ?
[15:18] <ikonia> edward__: extracted dos ?
[15:18] <ikonia> edward__: you're aware this channel is for ubuntu support
[15:18] <EriC^^> edward__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#Menuentry_Example
[15:19] <edward__> linux16 /grub.exe —config-file="find —set-root /HBCD/menu.lst; configfile /HBCD/menu.lst"
[15:19] <ikonia> edward__: thats nothing to do with ubuntu,
[15:19] <edward__> this command won't work on 64bit system :/
[15:19] <eva> ok
[15:20] <eva> EriC^^, i got to usb drivers connecting to my pc
[15:20] <eva> ;)
[15:23] <edward__> ops am I online ?
[15:24] <Seditio> hi guys, I'm asking on behalf of a friend who can't get his desktop to play nicely, currently running 17.04 with a peculiar GPU setup
[15:24] <Seditio> when he installed nvidia proprietary drivers, the system wouldn't boot, when he's on nouveau, it boots but the desktop renders at about 5 fps and the monitor layout it borked
[15:25] <Seditio> see screen layout here: http://i.imgur.com/P5QQmli.jpg
[15:25] <Seditio> but as he has two nvidia gpus, he has these options: http://i.imgur.com/qecTyOD.png
[15:26] <eva> i got unetbootin
[15:26] <eva> to work lol
[15:26] <dopiwan> unetbootin still supported? i thought rufus took over the spotlight
[15:26] <AndroidFan> hey there!
[15:27] <eva> nah i have it
[15:27] <edward__> damn linux16 /grub.exe —config-file="find —set-root /HBCD/menu.lst; configfile /HBCD/menu.lst"  linux16 command is only available on 32bit systems :/
[15:27] <edward__> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/linux16.html
[15:27] <eva> hey AndroidFan :)
[15:27] <atyz> Hey all. I have been trying to install 17.04 and when I start the installation process I am met with an unreadable screen. (http://imgur.com/a/VWvNp). I have been stuck here for days. I have tried 16.04 and 16.10 as well. With both the desktop and the server version. In both cases I get this. Can anybody help me out with a way forward? Please?
[15:27] <AndroidFan> I'd like to ask how to add Remix OS's entry to Grub, I'm multibooting Ubuntu along with it.
[15:27] <eva> i use remix os
[15:28] <EriC^^> AndroidFan: try sudo update-grub
[15:28] <eva> i use it to play pokemon go
[15:28] <AndroidFan> Okay, I'll give it a go, thanks!
[15:28] <eva> AndroidFan, ;)
[15:28] <AndroidFan> yep, I'd like to try that too :D
[15:28] <EriC^^> no problem
[15:28] <eva> AndroidFan, can i add u on discord?
[15:29] <AndroidFan> brb, will reboot
[15:29] <AndroidFan> or wait...
[15:29] <eva> ?
[15:30] <AndroidFan> I can reckon I can have a preview of it on grub customizer
[15:30] <eva> i need to make remix os to work for pogo
[15:30] <eva> AndroidFan, i sent u pm tho
[15:32] <Anthaas> Hi guys - I have a headless vm running ubuntu 16.04, but the DNS doesn't seem to work.
[15:32] <Anthaas> I am unable to resolve known hosts.
[15:33] <__Yiota> Anthaas can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[15:33] <dopiwan> Anthaas: how is it getting an IP address?   are you NAT or Bridged?
[15:34] <Anthaas> __Yiota, Yes :S I can't ping smtp.gmail.com
[15:34] <__Yiota> yeah, can't resolve the host
[15:34] <__Yiota> are your ports open?
[15:34] <__Yiota> I think DNS needs a few ports
[15:34] <Anthaas> (Im learning web dev and trying to use my gmail account as part of registering)
[15:34] <Anthaas> Uhh, how would I check?
[15:34] <__Yiota> are you usin ufw/iptables?
[15:34] <Anthaas> I can ping it from the host machine, btw.
[15:34] <eva> okey i got win10 on my usb
[15:35] <Anthaas> Again, I wouldn't know, sorry.
[15:35] <eva> now i need to reboot
[15:35] <dopiwan> Anthaas: whta do u see in cat /etc/resolv.conf
[15:35] <Anthaas> dopiwan, The only uncommented line is: nameserver 10.0.2.3
[15:36] <edward__> can I force 32bit grub2 on 64bit system ?
[15:36] <dopiwan> Anthaas:  can u ping 10.0.2.3    ... is that a valid DNS server from your host?
[15:36] <Anthaas> dopiwan, From the host no, it times out.
[15:37] <Anthaas> dopiwan, From the VM yes.
[15:39] <edward__> any1 tried menu entry in grub2 for hirens boot on 64 bit ubuntu ?
[15:39] <dopiwan> Anthaas: can you ping your hosts authoritative dns server from your VM ?
[15:40] <Anthaas> dopiwan, You can probably guess what I am about to ask... haha
[15:40] <omagash> Hey, any ideas to make an entry of Remix OS to grub?
[15:40] <Anthaas> In fact, Im sure 8.8.8.8 is the DNS from my host.
[15:40] <Anthaas> One sec, Ill check
[15:40] <esben> I experience some graphics corruption on my brand new HP 255 G5 with R5 graphics. Using ubuntu 17.04 gnome edition. It boots fine and I can type commands in "blind", but the screen only shows some horizontal stripes... I can boot with nomodeset, where Im at right now
[15:41] <esben> any help?
[15:41] <EriC^^> esben: try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:41] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[15:42] <omagash> Hey, any ideas to make an entry of Remix OS to grub?
[15:42] <eva> hey
[15:42] <Anthaas> dopiwan, Yeah, I can ping 192.168.0.1 from the VM (which is the IPV4 DNS)
[15:42] <Anthaas> of my host
[15:42] <dopiwan> Anthaas:  edit your resolv.conf  remove the 10.x line and put in 192.168.0.1
[15:42] <EriC^^> omagash: try sudo update-grub and see if you get anything
[15:42] <scottjl> esben: when you added nomodeset did you take out quiet nosplash?
[15:43] <Anthaas> dopiwan, It says not to edit because the changes will be overwritten
[15:43] <scottjl> sorry quite splash
[15:43] <dopiwan> Anthaas:  thats correct, I'm assuming your VM is getting a NAT IP from the host and not propogating correct DNS info... if you can modify DHCP settings in your host to tell what nameserver to use look for that
[15:43] <omagash> EriC^^: I tried it already, it still shows my old entries, nothing new :/
[15:44] <andrew_> Hello. How to disable bluetooth permanently?
[15:44] <dopiwan> but for now edit the file and see if that fixes it
[15:44] <EriC^^> omagash: try "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the result here
[15:44] <scottjl> andrew_: blacklist the module for your BT
[15:44] <andrew_> scottjl: How to do it? Im new to linux
[15:44] <andrew_> (and how to make your name green?)
[15:45] <pni1> #linux
[15:45] <logikos>  Hi, I purchased a dell laptop with ubuntu unity on it, and everything was working nicly then I used the update manager to install updates because the version of thunderbird on it would not work with gmail .. after theupdates it is like none of my drivers are working .. no ethernet, display res is 800x600 etc...
[15:45] <logikos> is there a way to undo that or a way to fix it?
[15:45] <Anthaas> dopiwan, I have no idea how to do THAT haha
[15:45] <omagash> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/1lkb
[15:45] <dopiwan> Anthaas: is your host also linux?  What hypervisor are you running?
[15:46] <esben> EriC^^, I just get a message "use netcat" - no link... the command just give this output: driver   : amd64-microcode - distro non-free
[15:46] <EriC^^> omagash: there's only one linux install in the disk
[15:46] <scottjl> andrew_: my name was green because i mentioned you. you need to find the name of the module (driver) for the bluetooth on your system and add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[15:46] <Anthaas> dopiwan, My host in Win 10. I am using VirtualBox
[15:46] <guest-iqtt3o> hi
[15:47] <EriC^^> omagash: are you dual booting with windows? there are 2 ntfs ones
[15:47] <dopiwan> anthaas try setting your network mode to Bridged for teh VM, that might be your easiest fix
[15:47] <EriC^^> omagash: actually 3 ones
[15:47] <omagash> I have two OS's Ubuntu and XP (excluding Remix)
[15:47] <omagash> the third one is for Remix
[15:48] <EriC^^> omagash: on which partition did you install remix? how big was the size?
[15:48] <omagash> around 8GB
[15:48] <Anthaas> dopiwan, VM has 2 network adapters, one is attached to NAT, other is Host-only adapter.
[15:48] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[15:48] <EriC^^> omagash: ^
[15:48] <dopiwan> Anthaas: change the NAT to Bridged
[15:49] <dopiwan> then reboot VM and let me know
[15:49] <omagash> EriC^^: then?
[15:49] <EriC^^> omagash: try ls /mnt do you see anything?
[15:49] <omagash> boot  efi  isolinux  $RECYCLE.BIN  RemixOS  System Volume Information
[15:50] <EriC^^> omagash: how did you install remixos?
[15:50] <EriC^^> that looks like a live usb
[15:50] <omagash> EriC^^: Via the executable included in the archive
[15:50] <omagash> EriC^^: I actually stumbled with some grub errors after the installation
[15:51] <omagash> EriC^^: But it's fixed now
[15:51] <EriC^^> omagash: try ls /mnt/RemixOS
[15:52] <omagash> boot        efi          kernel            system.sfs    ubnkern
[15:52] <omagash> boot.ini    info.ini     menu.lst          TRANS.TBL     ubnpathl.txt
[15:52] <omagash> bootnw.txt  initrd.img   ramdisk.img       ubnfilel.txt  unformatted_data.img
[15:52] <omagash> cid.sys     install.img  remixos_meta.sys  ubninit       UninstallRemixOS.exe
[15:52] <ducasse> !paste | omagash
[15:52] <EriC^^> omagash: that's pretty weird, no idea how it boots
[15:53] <EriC^^> omagash: try the remixos channel, they might know
[15:53] <omagash> EriC^^:  well, I saw a reddit post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RemixOS/comments/41275z/any_ways_to_add_remix_os_to_grub2/
[15:53] <omagash> But I'm not sure how to do it
[15:54] <Anthaas> dopiwan, It seems VBox will not run with that change
[15:55] <Dr-007> good day
[15:55] <Dr-007> my server's HDD is almost full
[15:55] <esben> EriC^^, I hacked the text into http://termbin.com/e40x
[15:55] <localadmin> hello everyone, I had a simple AD authentication system setup with kerberos+samba+winbind on 16.10 and just finished the upgrade to 17.04 only to find out that I can't authentication as my previous domain user anymore. The user list still shows my user but whenever I try logging it it tells me there was an error. Any has any tips on how I can debug this further? The krb/samba config files seem unchanged by the upgrade.
[15:55] <EriC^^> omagash: type sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom and paste the entry
[15:56] <dopiwan> Anthaas: Sorry I don't have VBox on my Win10 system I'm using Hyper-V (which I highly recommend using in place of VBox.. you can enable it for free in Windows)
[15:56] <Dr-007> i tried using `du -hsx * | sort -rh | head -10` to find big files/directories but the biggest is 13 gb. while my 1TB hdd is almost full. anyone knows a way to find out where alot of files are? in other word: find the biggest directories
[15:56] <dopiwan> Anthaas:  you should be able set it to bridged though, may need to remove the vNIC and re-add one
[15:56] <EriC^^> esben: try sudo apt-get install amd64-microcode
[15:57] <scottjl> localadmin: check /etc/pam.d and see if any of the config files there got updated
[15:58] <EriC^^> Dr-007: try baobab
[15:58] <EriC^^> it shoudl already be installed in ubuntu
[15:58] <omagash> EriC^^: To the terminal?
[15:58] <esben> EriC^^, done - should that have been installed already? Why wasnt it?
[15:59] <Dr-007> EriC^^, is baobab cli or gui?
[15:59] <EriC^^> Dr-007: gui
[16:00] <scottjl> Dr-007: use ncdu for cli
[16:00] <EriC^^> esben: no idea, try dpkg -l | grep -E "amdgpu|radeon" | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:00] <EriC^^> Dr-007: what scottjl said +1
[16:01] <esben> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/7e28
[16:02] <Dr-007> EriC^^, alright. cant use gui at the moment since my x-server is not working. i will try scott's anwer
[16:02] <Dr-007> i found some old encrypted homedir files. i think encryption is disabled tho
[16:02] <EriC^^> esben: i have the same packages installed
[16:02] <omagash> EriC^^: http://pasteboard.co/70UwgHF74.png
[16:03] <esben> gonna give it a go thanks
[16:03] <omagash> EriC^^: That's sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom 's entry
[16:03] <EriC^^> esben: try cat /var/log/Xorg.*.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:05] <EriC^^> omagash: ok paste the menu entry from the web page
[16:05] <esben> EriC^^,  http://termbin.com/p9f7 - remember ive got nomodeset from boot
[16:05] <Dr-007> ecryptfs-verify -h ERROR: [/home/server/.ecryptfs] does not exist ERROR: Configuration invalid
[16:06] <Dr-007> encryption on my ubuntu for homefolder seems disabled
[16:06] <Dr-007> https://askubuntu.com/questions/513534/cannot-delete-encrypted-btrfs-snapshot/513547#513547
[16:06] <omagash> EriC^^: What do you mean, please help me understand.
[16:06] <localadmin> scottjl, I see that with the upgrade there were many files backed up with *.pam-old, I'll try restoring these and see if I get this working again.
[16:06] <madebyme> how to set a programmer on start-up on Ubuntu
[16:06] <scottjl> localadmin: make sure you back up the updated files. or diff them and see what changes were made
[16:07] <andrew_> Anybody knows how to run a terminal command by clicking a desktop icon?
[16:08] <EriC^^> esben: try to reboot i guess
[16:08] <madebyme> how to set a programmer on start-up on Ubuntu    ?
[16:08] <baizon> "programmer"?
[16:08] <EriC^^> andrew_: make a .desktop file
[16:08] <ducasse> !patience | madebyme
[16:08] <madebyme> it means any software or package
[16:08] <EriC^^> madebyme: go to the dash and type "startup"
[16:08] <madebyme> after that ?
[16:09] <andrew_> EriC^^: Could you please expand your answer? I m new to linunx (2 days)
[16:09] <andrew_> EriC^^: I'd like to create an icon to run xgamma -bgamma 0.8 command to fix my color gamma on monitor when i start pc
[16:09] <pavlos> Dr-007: try with depth=1 ... sudo du -hx -d1 /
[16:10] <esben> EriC^^, works like a charm - thanks
[16:10] <andrew_> EriC^^: (since I don't know how to make it permanent)
[16:10] <kostkon> andrew_, https://askubuntu.com/a/437030/1651
[16:11] <andrew_> kostkon: thak you, i'll take a look and try
[16:12] <venkat> hi
[16:12] <EriC^^> omagash: the part that says menuentry 'Remix OS' --class ..... copy and paste it all til the end of "}"
[16:12] <EriC^^> andrew_: type "ls /usr/share/applications" there are a bunch of desktop files there, you can copy any and modify it in a text editor to run a command, as long as it's set executable it should work to double click it and run
[16:12] <EriC^^> madebyme: click on startup apps and add what you want to run
[16:12] <venkat> let me know how to install google chrome in mint 18
[16:12] <EriC^^> esben: great, no problem
[16:13] <scottjl> venkat: go to https://www.google.com/chrome/ and they give you pretty explicit instructions
[16:13] <andrew_> EriC^^: ok I'll try. I have to figure out where exactly copy my command line
[16:13] <EriC^^> andrew_: you can have it run automatically when the desktop comes
[16:13] <andrew_> EriC^^: That'll be awesome
[16:14] <EriC^^> andrew_: ~/.profile runs when you start a session, add this line to it "if [ -n $DISPLAY ]; then xgamma.....; fi" that way it won't run if you start a terminal only session
[16:14] <venkat> ok thanks eric
[16:15] <EriC^^> you can try your luck with the startup apps application too, i haven't had luck with it running any xserver related commands though, but .profile works for me
[16:15] <edward__> gosh I can list the files in the grub command line I can't type the right sentence to force boot on this extracted iso :/
[16:16] <scottjl> edward__: select the line and hit e
[16:16] <enoch85> hey guys, do you know where I can find a preseed generator online?
[16:16] <andrew_> EriC^^: I got the list from the terminal, but how to copy 1 file on my desktop? Is it possible to find those files in a classic folder?
[16:16] <edward__> can I achieve on 64bits dos mode ? :/
[16:17] <edward__> real time whatever called :D
[16:17] <edward__> lack of linux16 and initrd16 on 64bits systems killing my day :/
[16:18] <EriC^^> andrew_: yeah, you can browse to it from the filemanager,  go to computer then usr > share > applications
[16:18] <venkat> done eric
[16:18] <venkat> greac
[16:19] <venkat> great
[16:20] <andrew_> EriC^^: ok, I copied 1 on my desktop. How do I edit?
[16:21] <edward__> how to gently switch to 32bit kernel/grub2 from 64bit one ?
[16:21] <edward__> multiarch force i386 ?
[16:22] <EriC^^> andrew_: open gedit then open it
[16:22] <andrew_> EriC^^: hum..what is gedit?
[16:23] <andrew_> EriC^^: ((new user))<--Noob
[16:23] <logikos> is there a way to revert an update, after doing an update none of my drivers seem to work... no ethernet, display is messed up (800x600) etc
[16:23] <edward__> gedit -> windows notepad
[16:23] <EriC^^> andrew_: it's a text editor
[16:23] <ducasse> edward__: if you want to switch from a 64-bit system to a 32-bit system, reinstall. but why run 32-bit on a 64-bit cpu?
[16:23] <logikos> gedit is much more than windows notepad .... yuck lol
[16:23] <EriC^^> logikos: try booting an older kernel from grub
[16:24] <andrew_> EriC^^: Maybe in this distro there is another. Im using ubuntu mate
[16:24] <logikos> EriC^^: does a normal update update the kernel??
[16:24] <edward__> I mean similarities :)
[16:24] <andrew_> EriC^^: pluma i guess. i'll try
[16:24] <edward__>  +1 for "text editor" :D
[16:25] <logikos> i view gedit kinda like notepad++
[16:25] <EriC^^> logikos: yeah the automatic system one does
[16:25] <andrew_> EriC^^: I opened the file. What do I need to erase and where do I have to put my command line?
[16:25] <EriC^^> andrew_: put the command next to Exec=
[16:25] <edward__> whoever removed 16bit mode from 64bit system ... head shot from me !!! cs go one :D
[16:26] <andrew_> EriC^^: #!/usr/bin/env xdg-open
[16:26] <andrew_> [Desktop Entry]
[16:26] <andrew_> Terminal=false
[16:26] <andrew_> Type=Application
[16:26] <andrew_> Categories=PackageManager;System;Settings;
[16:26] <andrew_> Name=Welcome
[16:27] <ducasse> andrew_: use a pastebin next time, please
[16:27] <andrew_> ducasse: I apologize
[16:28] <ducasse> andrew_: no worries :)
[16:28] <andrew_> EriC^^: So just copy the command line after exec=, and leave the rest as it is?
[16:29] <EriC^^> andrew_: yeah, change the exec= part and the name
[16:30] <andrew_> EriC^^: It works. Fantastic.
[16:31] <andrew_> EriC^^: For now I'll skip the autoplay at start.
[16:31] <andrew_> EriC^^: Thank you for your help and patience.
[16:31] <EriC^^> andrew_: no problem
[16:34] <Canoe_> With Canonical now focusing on server along with other trims their business in prep for external investment, is it at all possible that Microsoft would further engage with them in that direction?
[16:38] <tony-> anyone know of a command to see what display manager i am using?
[16:39] <mint1> /etc/x11/default-display-manager assuming you're on debian
[16:40] <mint1> or echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
[16:40] <eva> hi
[16:40] <andrew_> Why ubuntu gives me only 3 hours with the battery, while windows 10 goes easily 6-7 hours?
[16:40] <eva> hmm
[16:40] <ducasse> Canoe: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:41] <baizon> andrew_: different cpu usage
[16:41] <andrew_> baizon: Is there a way to make it more efficient in managing power?
[16:41] <mint1> powertop
[16:42] <mint1> sudo apt install powertop
[16:42] <baizon> andrew_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/400/tips-to-extend-battery-life-for-laptops-and-notebooks
[16:42] <tony-> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION just says xfrce
[16:42] <tony-> doesnt list the display manager
[16:42] <mint1> thats your desktop
[16:42] <tony-> ya
[16:43] <mint1> try the other one
[16:43] <mint1> above
[16:43] <tony-> trying to find out the display manager
[16:43] <andrew_> baizon: thabks. I'll take a look at it
[16:43] <transhuman> I was thinking, tell me if my logic is wrong, If I install Ubuntu with all the packages LAMP and sendmail and basic LXDE and a couple other things, then I generate a list of all these packages, I should be able to make another instances packages identical by removing the rest of the packages that it has, is this reasonable (sounds like a weird way of going about it I know, but I have my reasons)...thanks in advance
[16:43] <tony-> this doenst work /etc/x11/default-display-manager
[16:43] <tony-> tony@tony:~$ /etc/x11/default-display-manager
[16:43] <tony-> bash: /etc/x11/default-display-manager: No such file or directory
[16:44] <EriC^^> tony-: try ps aux | grep dm
[16:44] <mint1> are you running debian or red hat
[16:44] <genii> uppercase X
[16:44] <EriC^^> look for lightdm or gdm maybe
[16:44] <ducasse> mint1: he's probably running ubuntu
[16:44] <flux242> andrew_:  power management is broken in ubuntu
[16:45] <Canoe> ducasse: aha thanks, didn't realise there was a separate channel
[16:45] <flux242> andrew_: if you start the powertop and disconnect the power plug then all tunables should turn to GOOD
[16:46] <flux242> andrew_: but they won't
[16:48] <eva> :(
[16:50] <andrew_> flux242: hum..that's bad
[16:50] <flux242> andrew_: it's possible to fix though
[16:51] <AssociateX> Hello all
[16:51] <skela> hi, anyone can help me with basic pgp issues?
[16:51] <AssociateX> How can I tell which DE I'm using?
[16:51] <wiggmpk> Having trouble identifying temperature sensors. Using UDisks2. I show Core 0-3 which is obvious, then I also show Physical Id0, temp1, and temp1.. Any thoughts?
[16:51] <andrew_> flux242: If you have some detailed guide please link it to me, but it has to be detailed because I'm new to linux
[16:52] <EriC^^> AssociateX: type "echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" in a terminal
[16:52] <andrew_> flux242: otherwise I'll wait to learn some basic stuff first
[16:53] <andrew_> Another issue I've noticed is that bluetooth is turning on at every restart. Is there a simple way to make it disabled and stay disabled?
[16:53] <AssociateX> EriC^^, thank you. I had been googling for 10 minutes with no luck.
[16:53] <EriC^^> AssociateX: no problem
[16:53] <flux242> andrew_: well, it's not so easy for a beginner. I could give you a link to an article I wrote but you could screw things
[16:53] <andrew_> flux242: better not screw then. I'll keep it this way, for now is ok
[16:55] <skela> i have a basic issue with thunderbird with enigmail, when i try to open a mail pgp encrypted software says that have not any private keys for decrypt, but i can decrypt the same text via command line!
[16:55] <ducasse> andrew_: is there a key to disable/enable bluetooth on your keyboard?
[16:55] <skela> help :'(
[16:55] <pavlos> andrew_: look at startup applications and disable/enable bluetooth ...
[16:55] <andrew_> ducasse: nope
[16:56] <andrew_> pavlos: I've found it. I'll try to disable and see what happens at next restart
[16:56] <andrew_> pavlos: Thank You!
[16:56] <pavlos> andrew_: np
[16:59] <skela> i have a basic issue with thunderbird with enigmail, when i try to open a mail pgp encrypted software says that have not any private keys for decrypt, but i can decrypt the same text via command line! Can anyone help me?
[17:02] <blackflow> skela: long time since I used enigmail, but iirc you had to set it up with a private key manually or something
[17:21] <netcrime> Hello. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04. I have a usb stick with installation. I want to reinstall ubuntu. When I make my usb #1 boot option it just boots ubuntu. How do I make it reinstall? I also have .iso file
[17:21] <kostkon> netcrime, how did you create the live usb?
[17:22] <netcrime> With Rufus. Im sure it works because I have installed ubuntu the first time.
[17:22] <netcrime> kostkon: Now basicly I want to erase everything from my harddrive and reinstall ubuntu
[17:22] <Canoe> Are you using the right function key to boot from the usb media?
[17:23] <kostkon> netcrime, and it boots on your already existing desktop?
[17:23] <Canoe> Usually f8 or f12 or del
[17:23] <netcrime> kostkon: Yes
[17:23] <netcrime> Canoe: Yes. I enter Bios settings and set it to boot first from usb then cd then hard
[17:23] <netcrime> I actually have double OS installed one windows 10 one ubuntu
[17:25] <Lavinho> good afternoon
[17:25] <bipolar> I wrote a howto on getting a Dual Master OpenLDAP install up and running on Ubuntu 16.04. Maybe someone will find it helpful. https://iambenjaminlong.com/2017/04/21/configuring-openldap-multi-master-replication-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[17:25] <Jordan_U> netcrime: Please run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[17:25] <Lavinho> Can someone help?
[17:25] <blackflow> !ask | Lavinho
[17:26] <Jordan_U> bipolar: Please don't try to publicise your (or others) articles on this channel. Please only respond to specific support questions.
[17:26] <netcrime> Jordan_u: one moment will do that
[17:26] <Lavinho> linuxium on lenovo ideapad 100s works sound ?
[17:28] <netcrime> Jordan_U: https://pastebin.com/Y6fPDi3Y output
[17:30] <ducasse> Lavinho: you need to be clearer than that, i'm afraid.
[17:31] <Lavinho> sound is not function
[17:31] <Lavinho> bluetooth and wiifi
[17:31] <Lavinho> what is a solution ?
[17:31] <ducasse> Lavinho: that model is known to be extremely problematic with linux.
[17:32] <ducasse> Lavinho: the solution is to return it and get another model.
[17:32] <Lavinho> ok
[17:32] <Lavinho> thank's
[17:35] <netcrime> Jordan_U: does that help ?
[17:36] <craigbass76> I've got Pidgin running on two boxes, hooked up to XMPP with the same user account. When I send a message to that account, it's only going to one of the computers.  Anyone know where my problems is? XMPP server, or Pidgin?
[17:40] <omagash> hey Eric
[17:41] <rud0lf> any idea why mono/unity based steam games doesn't launch in ubuntu
[17:41] <EriC^^> omagash: type "sudo rm /etc/grub.d/40_custom" for now so update-grub works, i gtg somebody else can help i'm sure
[17:41] <EriC^^> sorry
[17:53] <mikeymop> can someone help me with RSA identification im' getting frustrated
[17:54] <mikeymop> my notebook is in authorized keys and works fine
[17:54] <mikeymop>  I have a server I connect too as a middleman betwen public clients and my vps, this has another set of RSA.pubs
[17:54] <mikeymop> so on my vps, I scp the rsaid.pub over, and cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[17:55] <mikeymop> now I ssh into this middleman, try to ssh to my vps
[17:55] <mikeymop> it now asks for a passphrase for my key. I type the passphrase I set from ssh-keygen -t and it is wrong
[17:55] <mikeymop> so i try any and all passwords I have ever used and NONE work
[17:55] <SimonT> I have 16.04 server installed on a Zotac ZBOX. Booting takes longer than I expect compared to other similar hardware. systemd-analyze shows that networking.service takes 10s, I'm guessing it has to do with the built in wifi that I don't use. Any way I can speed things up?
[17:56] <mikeymop> do you use wifi?
[17:56] <mikeymop> or eth?
[17:57] <FManTropyx> my swap usage is at 62%
[17:59] <VTas> FManTropyx: out of curiosity, what is your actual ram size, ram usage, swap size, swap usage: 62%, hdd size and hdd usage?
[18:00] <FManTropyx> so many questions... this old box has 2 GB RAM, same size swap, no idea of RAM usage
[18:01] <Lukker> hello everyone
[18:01] <FManTropyx> hi
[18:01] <implite> FManTropyx: are you using lubuntu?
[18:03] <Lukker> i need some help with the apache installation on my ubuntu server 16.10
[18:03] <implite> !apache
[18:03] <SimonT> mikeymop: I use eth only, I don't use the wifi at all
[18:04] <Lukker> i installed from source code
[18:04] <Lukker> because of a school project i am not allowed to use apt-get
[18:05] <FManTropyx> the whole system freezes for minutes at a time to a point that the clock on the screen stops and even the mouse pointer cannot be moved
[18:06] <FManTropyx> this is Ubuntu Studio 16.04.2
[18:06] <Lukker> so i installed the dependencies needed in tar.gz format extract them, renamed, make , make install and so on
[18:06] <implite> FManTropyx: you should try the lubuntu iso
[18:06] <implite> less resources used
[18:06] <FManTropyx> now I don't know what is happening... 100% HDD usage
[18:07] <FManTropyx> Firefox is allocating half of my memory in use :P
[18:07] <blackflow> FManTropyx: are you running out of ram and it's swapping like there's no tomorrow?
[18:07] <FManTropyx> yeah
[18:07] <FManTropyx> I didn't think Linux did that, but I've been there with Windows before
[18:07] <blackflow> FManTropyx: so then you'll need more ram
[18:07] <implite> or try lubuntu
[18:07] <Lukker> when i am almost done with the installation the pcre gives me an error. Is it possible to delete only the pcre library and install it again or it is a bad idea
[18:07] <Lukker> ??
[18:08] <Jordan_U> Lukker: Does your teacher literally require that you not use apt-get at all in this process? It is never recommended to install all build-dependancies by source (though again, it would pretty much never be recommended to build apache from source for real use anyway).
[18:08] <Lukker> YES
[18:08] <BluesKaj> FManTropyx:  or use a different browser :-)
[18:08] <Lukker> He says that his dead grand mother can use apt-get and i kind of understand that :)
[18:09] <Jordan_U> Lukker: You might be better off starting with Linux From Scratch and getting help there then, as you're close to that point anyway (and they are actually there to provide this type of support).
[18:09] <FManTropyx> I think I just need more freakin RAM :P
[18:10] <Lukker> you mean another support channel?
[18:10] <SimonT> FManTropyx: yes... 2gb is not much, especially with Firefox
[18:10] <Lukker> i am new here...
[18:10] <BluesKaj> FManTropyx:  how much do you have?
[18:10] <implite> FManTropyx: lubuntu works great on old/low memory/slow systems
[18:11] <Lukker> i didn´t quiet understood what do you mean by that...
[18:11] <lewix> Command A & Command B
[18:11] <lewix> Execute Command A, then execute Command B (no evaluation of anything)
[18:11] <lewix> y
[18:11] <lewix> what's the equivalent with linux
[18:12] <ducasse> Lukker: he means this is way beyond what is supported here, you're doing everything the non-ubuntu way
[18:12] <lewix> not &&
[18:12] <FManTropyx> this is an old business box (HP small form-factor DC7800 etc) and I think its age is 10 years :)
[18:12] <BluesKaj> Lukker:  use the nick od the person you want to address
[18:12] <BluesKaj> od=of
[18:12] <implite> lukker: #lfs-support
[18:12] <SimonT> lewix: sorry.. what's wrong with && ?
[18:13] <FManTropyx> I cannot really afford or justify the purchase of a new computer, but I have been looking at getting a used laptop with 4 GB RAM
[18:13] <lewix> it's not the equivalent SimonT
[18:13] <Lukker>  come on guys... i been jumping around all day from forum to forum and nobody can help me.
[18:13] <lewix> && Execute Command A, evaluate the errorlevel after running and if the exit code (errorlevel) is 0, only then execute Command B
[18:13] <SimonT> you could suppress the errors from command A?
[18:14] <lewix> SimonT: also i dont think && work with sh, it seems to only work with bash. I might be wrong
[18:15] <logikos> on a new laptop that came with ubuntu i did an update that asked me about disabiling uefi secure boot ... it was selected by default so i just went with it ... however after the update a lot of stuff is not broken .. is there a way to re-enable secure boot in ubuntu just so i can try that before restorying the system to factory?
[18:15] <ducasse> lewix: are you after ';'?
[18:15] <lewix> ducasse: yes but it doesnt work with windows
[18:15] <ducasse> lewix: why would you ask us about windows?
[18:15] <lewix> ducasse: that was my first inclination to use ;
[18:15] <lewix> ducasse: Did I ask about windows?
[18:16] <Lukker> [20:15] <ChrisS67> then ask on Ubuntu support channels( this is what i get from the other channels)great.....isn´t it??
[18:16] <lewix> I asked about the equivalent of && (which is what windows use) and it's slightly different from ;
[18:16] <SimonT> I have 16.04 server installed on a Zotac ZBOX. Booting takes longer than I expect compared to other similar hardware. systemd-analyze shows that networking.service takes 10s, I'm guessing it has to do with the built in wifi that I don't use. Any way I can speed things up?
[18:17] <lewix> ducasse: I basically wrote a script that only works on linux but i want to make it agnostic
[18:17] <root> ss
[18:21] <blackflow> Lukker: earlier you were advised to use apt-file to find the package you need for that particular missing pcre binary, did you try that?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> SimonT:  you could remove network manager and use the interfaxes file like so https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[18:21] <BluesKaj> interfaces file rather
[18:23] <ioria> lewix, it can work, but not in dos (you can install msys and call bash in the cmd win)
[18:27] <FManTropyx> I just noticed I am also uploading at half a megabit
[18:27] <FManTropyx> make that megabyte
[18:27] <FManTropyx> I think
[18:28] <implite> FManTropyx: have you looked at lightweight ubuntu? http://lubuntu.net/
[18:29] <implite> you can find a faster operating system for your low memory requirements for your system there
[18:29] <YankDownUnder> Stripping out LxDE and replacing it with WindowMaker is even lighter.
[18:29] <implite> hahahaha Indeed!
[18:29] <scottjl> ratpoison is lighter than those
[18:31] <FManTropyx> I have xfce
[18:32] <YankDownUnder> scottjl: Ha...yeah...it's light, all right...(same as basically using xterm as a wm...)
[18:33] <scottjl> details details..
[18:34] <CarlFK> "grub-installer: Installation finished. No error reported."   see again at #1260 of  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24428385/  and yet post says no boot device.    booted into installer rescue mode.  anyone have some guesses as to how to install grub?
[18:35] <CarlFK> it is an onboard ssd,  kernel dev name:  Apr 21 05:45:50 rescue-mode: partitions found: /dev/nvme0n1p1
[18:35] <blackflow> CarlFK: that means the bootloader is installed, however is there a /boot for it to access? is there a kernel and grub config in it?
[18:36] <ioria> CarlFK, are you 32 bit ?
[18:36] <CarlFK> blackflow: looks like it: /target/boot/vmlinuz-4.10.0-19-generic /target/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:37] <blackflow> CarlFK: and BIOS is set up for legacy (not EFI) boot?
[18:37] <CarlFK> ioria: um.. it is a x64 cpu, but I think grub is a 32 bit thing
[18:37] <ioria> CarlFK, idt so,  Installing for i386-pc platform.
[18:38] <ioria> CarlFK, uname -a
[18:39] <CarlFK> blackflow: it was booting xenial ok before.  shouldn't I be able to boot grub in EFI?
[18:39] <CarlFK> ioria: Linux gator 4.10.0-19-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 6 17:04:57 UTC 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:40] <abolfazl> hi.I have an .sh file.I add it to PATH and I can run it of every of my pc.i want to now where is this file address.are there any commend?
[18:40] <blackflow> CarlFK: yes but that requires special set up
[18:40] <ioria> CarlFK, you are 64 bit...
[18:41] <CarlFK> abolfazl:  I think you want wich an.sh (or whatever the filename is)
[18:41] <Epx998> what filesystems are supported as the root fs?
[18:41] <Epx998> ubuntu doesnt support xfs as the root fs yet, right?
[18:41] <abolfazl> I want to know where is the file in my pc.(I want to know where is it address)
[18:42] <bonsaitree> I am noticing something interesting after the reinstall of 16.04. While scolling in Google Chrome or while alt+tabing i am noticing a shape similar to this one, appearing in the middle of the screen: http://cosketch.com/Saved/p8yJQJPy .
[18:42] <sisyphus> CarlFK: can you paste the partition table of your boot disk including: EFI System Partition (FAT) and root partition?
[18:43] <sisyphus> If your disk is /dev/sda, you can print the partition table using the command: 'sudo parted /dev/sda print' (without the quotes)
[18:43] <CarlFK> sisyphus: umm. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24428458/
[18:43] <CarlFK> k - ill do parted too
[18:44] <sisyphus> CarlFK: Your partition table format and partitions are not compatible with EFI. For using EFI, you need ALL the following:
[18:45] <sisyphus> CarlFK: Partition table should be GPT and not MBR - when it is GPT, fdisk will complain - you should use gdisk of sgdisk of cgdisk
[18:45] <CarlFK> sisyphus: was EFI an option in the ubuntu installer? I just kinda blew through the defaults
[18:45] <sisyphus> CarlFK: You NEED an EFI system partition (using sgdisk it is of type EF00)
[18:45] <ioria> CarlFK, it's up to you boot the installer (your usb) in efi mode
[18:46] <sisyphus> CarlFK: EFI System partition should be formatted as vfat (if partition is /dev/sda1, use command 'sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda1)
[18:46] <abolfazl> hi.I have an .sh file.I add it to PATH and I can run it of every of my pc.i want to now where is this file address.are there any commend?
[18:46] <Jordan_U> CarlFK: If you boot the Ubuntu installation media via UEFI then it will install Ubuntu such that it can be booted via UEFI. You probably booted the installer via CSM (BIOS).
[18:46] <blackflow> sisyphus: CarlFK: it also requires GPT partitioning, this was msdos
[18:46] <blackflow> sisyphus: ah you said that already, k
[18:46] <sisyphus> Also, the answer by Jordan_U is correct - if you (had) booted in EFI mode you may have hinted the installer to install EFI
[18:47] <CarlFK> ok, I'll figure out how to re-run the install in EFI mode
[18:47] <scottjl> abolfazl: which file.sh
[18:47] <abolfazl> startup.sh
[18:47] <sisyphus> CarlFK: Last, but not least, you need to boot in EFI mode (Firmware setting) once you have installed EFI apps correctly
[18:47] <abolfazl> I want it address
[18:47] <scottjl> abolfazl: what do you mean by address? location
[18:47] <abolfazl> yes
[18:47] <sisyphus> CarlFK: Which flavor of Ubuntu are you installing?
[18:48] <scottjl> abolfazl: type: which startup.sh
[18:48] <CarlFK> sisyphus: zesty
[18:48] <sisyphus> Standard Ubuntu (Unity) or Mate or Kubuntu (KDE) or Xubuntu (xfce) or Lubuntu (LXDE)?
[18:49] <abolfazl> thanks scottjl
[18:49] <sisyphus> CarlFK: When re-installing, choose the boot medium as 'UEFI: XXXX' or set firmware to be UEFI-ONLY
[18:49] <scottjl> abolfazl: you're welcome
[18:51] <CarlFK> sisyphus:  standard.  the exact thing I am booting: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/zesty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
[18:51] <ioria> CarlFK,  mini.iso
[18:51] <mikeymop> SimonT: if you're eth only, why not blacklist your wireless driver so it never inits in the first place
[18:52] <ioria> CarlFK,  idk if mini.iso supports uefi
[18:53] <ioria> CarlFK,  "he mini iso lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode. Thus, the computer will boot in BIOS compatibility mode, and the installation will be in BIOS mode. "
[18:53] <ioria> CarlFK,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:54] <K_K_N> hxcv, ?
[18:56] <sysadmin75> Hello all.  I'm dealing with a networking issue on 14.04.4 server.
[18:56] <sysadmin75> I need to bring additional IPs on eth0.  eth0 pings just fine. But none of the additional ping (eth0:0, eth0:1, etc...)
[18:56] <sysadmin75> what am I missing
[18:57] <compdoc> what are the ip add ranges?
[18:58] <CarlFK>  ioria: CarlFK,  "the mini iso lacks ..."  I may be bumping into the same problem
[18:58] <sysadmin75> it's a private IP
[18:58] <scottjl> sysadmin75: you can see/use them? they are up and running?
[18:58] <sysadmin75> ifconfig shows them. And eth0 is accessible
[18:58] <scottjl> sysadmin75: are you using iptables? rules blocking icmp?
[18:58] <sysadmin75> no iptables
[18:58] <scottjl> can you connect to them?
[18:59] <scottjl> from another server
[18:59] <scottjl> can you ping the eth0 address?
[18:59] <sysadmin75> only main address pings. The others do not
[18:59] <sysadmin75> and no they are not accessible
[18:59] <scottjl> so they aren't up
[19:00] <CarlFK> sysadmin75: we really do want to know the IPs
[19:00] <ozcanesen> i removed user password, using sudo passwd -d username
[19:00] <scottjl> pastebin ifconfig -a
[19:00] <ozcanesen> now i can not do su username
[19:00] <ozcanesen> it asks password
[19:01] <scottjl> if i remember correctly they do have to be on the same subnet as the main IP. been a while since i played with aliases.
[19:02] <scottjl> if the are up they should at least be pingable on the machine itself. if you can't do that you didn't define them correctly.
[19:03] <sysadmin75> scottjl: https://pastebin.com/LUAg19Ha
[19:04] <scottjl> on the box can you even ping 192.168.13.13 ?
[19:04] <sysadmin75> yes I am able to ping all IPs on the server itself
[19:04] <sysadmin75> only eth0 is pinging from outside
[19:05] <scottjl> been a while. let me set up a test and check it out
[19:05] <sysadmin75> This is a fresh install using ubuntu-14.04.4-server-amd64.iso
[19:07] <scottjl> your other box, it's on the same subnet?
[19:07] <bonsaitree> I am noticing something interesting after the reinstall of 16.04. While scolling in Google Chrome or while alt+tabing i am noticing a shape similar to this one, appearing in the middle of the screen: http://cosketch.com/Saved/p8yJQJPy . I am curious to know why it's like that, anyone knows? :)
[19:07] <scottjl> bonsaitree: graphics driver glitch?
[19:08] <sysadmin75> scottjl: No it's not on the same subnet. However, my box has access to the subnet.
[19:08] <bonsaitree> scottjl, Yeah, but was wondering if anyone has figured what exactly is causing that. I think it was present before too, but it was a straight line, now it's a trapezoid like thing
[19:11] <scottjl> sysadmin75: hmm.. i just set up a test and i'm able to ping it from another box on the same subnet.
[19:11] <scottjl> sysadmin75: maybe a router issue?
[19:11] <sysadmin75> scottjl: Also, if I take down all IPs and assign eth0:3 to eth0, then it starts pinging
[19:12] <scottjl> infact i'm able to ping the alias just fine from the internet. lol
[19:12] <scottjl> i'd take a look at your router between the subnets.
[19:14] <sysadmin75> ok thank you
[19:14] <andrew__> Hello. I installed Ubuntu alongside windows 10 and was working fine. But I just booted from a live usb to test some stuff and after that it doesn't appear grub anymore at restart.
[19:15] <scottjl> sysadmin75: you're welcome. sorry i couldn't help further. i didn't do anything but spin up a vm, add an alias on the command line, and it was pingable.
[19:15] <PrestiJ> .
[19:15] <scottjl> sysadmin75: maybe post your interfaces file, but the ifconfig looked good to me
[19:15] <Duckle> Hey there. I can't control the volume of my laptop. It just seems to ignore the media keys for volume up down and mute. I think it's because I've had a bluetooth headset connected, and it still thinks that's the sink it needs to control, problem is, that headset was my fathers, and I'm 100km away from him
[19:16] <sysadmin75> scottjl: Ha, I've already started a re-install. But it followed the normal file format
[19:21] <andrew__> GRUB disappeared after booting with a Live USB. What happened???
[19:25] <implite> scottjl: wow hahaha a new window manager for me to learn about "Ratpoison" ..... I thought you where trolling me
[19:25] <implite> nice
[19:26] <scottjl> implite: lol. no. rp is quite old. personally i use i3wm, light weight, fully featured.
[19:26] <scottjl> but you can't get more bare-bones than ratpoison
[19:26] <implite> twm?
[19:27] <ioria> !info evilwm | implite
[19:27] <YankDownUnder> mwm!
[19:27] <YankDownUnder> amiwm!
[19:27] <ioria> implite, but don't use it ... :þ
[19:28] <implite> ioria: what twm? y not?
[19:29] <ioria> implite, it's ugly, very ugly .... but useful sometimes
[19:29] <YankDownUnder> *Ugly* is perception...
[19:30] <scottjl> oh evil. forgot about that one too
[19:30] <implite> https://ibb.co/jn8GJ5  <--- my ctwm
[19:30] <scottjl> unity. ugh
[19:31] <scottjl> tiling wm's are a little bit of an adjustment to get used to, but so nice once you do
[19:32] <sysadmin75> scottjl: https://pastebin.com/VYeghQDB
[19:33] <CarlFK> welp.. I set bios to "only boot EFI" booted installer, here is the disk partition screens: https://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/static/temp/d.html
[19:33] <thelinuxchannel> Hi, did anyone tried GlusterFS on the new Ubuntu 17.04 ?
[19:33] <thelinuxchannel> I am facing some issues :(
[19:33] <scottjl> sysadmin75: that looks good to me. i think when i used them i didn't even bother with netmask. just set the address and moved on.
[19:34] <sysadmin75> ok, thanks scott
[19:35] <scottjl> sysadmin75: you don't happen to have network manager running too (is this a desktop or a server?) that could be interfering.
[19:35] <sysadmin75> it's server and these are the proceses
[19:35] <sysadmin75> https://pastebin.com/FVTiFt6E
[19:36] <scottjl> sysadmin75: else i'd check your router. i'm definitely out of ideas now
[19:36] <sysadmin75> yeah I've been working at this for 2 days. I sent an email to those running the router to see what they say
[19:36] <CarlFK> scottjl:   forgive the drive by helping... I didn't look at IPs... does the netmask on the box diong the ping cover the IP being pinged?
[19:37] <sysadmin75> it's just stange I can move any of the alias IPs to the main and it works
[19:37] <scottjl> CarlFK: yeah.
[19:37] <CarlFK> oh and that.  yeah, never mind.
[19:37] <eva> hi
[19:37] <scottjl> sysadmin75: um. are you natted?
[19:37] <eva> o.O
[19:38] <StephenS> has anyone used this ppa https://launchpad.net/~strukturag/+archive/ubuntu/libde265 ?
[19:38] <CarlFK> sysadmin75: what is the hardware between the 2 boxes?  Im hoping for 2 wires and a switch
[19:38] <sysadmin75> i dont' think so
[19:38] <scottjl> sysadmin75: i'm definitely suspecting the router/firewall since you said that
[19:38] <CarlFK> oh dear.
[19:38] <StephenS> I am looking for a way to play hvec x265 video file, and I'm not sure if I should trust this ppa
[19:38] <scottjl> CarlFK: no. it's on the other side of some router/firewall
[19:39] <CarlFK> scottjl: well... lp ppa's are complied from source and keyed so the binary you dl is 'trusted'.  so someone can look at the source.
[19:39] <ioria> StephenS, it's old and not supported in xenial or zesty, unless you're running trusty
[19:39] <scottjl> CarlFK: i have no idea what you're talking about there. wrong channel?
[19:39] <StephenS> yap im on trusty
[19:40] <CarlFK> scottjl: er, wrong nic.. leme try again
[19:40] <StephenS> ioria, is hvec on ubuntu 16.04 support out of the box?
[19:40] <CarlFK> StephenS: : well... lp ppa's are complied from source and keyed so the binary you dl is 'trusted'.  so someone can look at the source.
[19:40] <ioria> StephenS,  give a look at this https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/mpv-tests
[19:41] <StephenS> what with that?
[19:41] <StephenS> I want to stick with vlc, not mpv
[19:42] <dax> PPAs are created by random people, who may make any modification to existing source code that they wish. They are about as trustworthy as their creators, and none of them are officially supported.
[19:42] <ioria> StephenS,  vlc will crash with 265, but not sure
[19:43] <dax> i.e.: if the creator is some random person on the internet, the trust value of their PPA is approximately zero
[19:44] <FManTropyx> hmmh, the pre-installed MPlayer does not work
[19:45] <Jordan_U> StephenS: What happens when you try to play H.265 videos in VLC now?
[19:46] <YankDownUnder> StephenS: On 16.04, if anything, you can add the codec to the system with: sudo apt-get install x265
[19:46] <dw1> i have a file i can see with ls but i can't access with most programs. file describes it as JFIF 1.02
[19:47] <dw1> most programs. including cp, convert, etc., say "file not found"
[19:47] <dw1> i got it this bad file from the interwebs, and i need it. :]
[19:47] <YankDownUnder> dw1: It's being recognised as a graphics file.
[19:47] <Jordan_U> dw1: What is the exact and complete path to this file?
[19:47] <dw1> also ls doesn't show it in the same colour as other files
[19:48] <dw1> the path is all alphanumeric and not too long
[19:48] <dw1> it's a .jpg
[19:48] <Jordan_U> dw1: Do you have a reason for not sharing the exact and complete path?
[19:48] <dw1> yeah, has my site in it etc
[19:49] <tgm4883> dw1: your website?
[19:49] <Jordan_U> dw1: That will make trying to help you much harder, to the point that I might not be willing to even try (though others might).
[19:49] <dw1> it's just a normal path
[19:49] <dw1> /var/www/example.com/public_html/img/example-09685_fig2.jpg
[19:50] <tgm4883> trying to keep a website address secret seems silly to me
[19:50] <dw1> who cares, it's off topic
[19:50] <dw1> the file system doesnt like the file type idk
[19:50] <scottjl> probably a porn site
[19:50] <dw1> no it's not i just don't need more competition
[19:50] <Jordan_U> dw1: Please post the output of "ls -l /var/www/example.com/public_html/img/example-09685_fig2.jpg".
[19:50] <scottjl> sure there's no special characters hidden in the name?
[19:51] <scottjl> should try ls -lb
[19:51] <Jordan_U> dw1: I seriously doubt that anyone in this channel cares to compete with you.
[19:51] <postmodern> is there an official command for listing added PPAs?
[19:52] <dw1> https://pastebin.com/raw/mNJXZkha
[19:53] <dw1> looks the same like i said, but it's coloured differently
[19:53] <scottjl> the color is only the permissions on the file. not a big deal. you should still be able to read it
[19:53] <scottjl> dw1: you can access the other files in that directory ok?
[19:54] <dw1> some others have the same problem
[19:54] <dw1> but most dont
[19:54] <scottjl> try a -alhb
[19:54] <scottjl> see if any funny chars print
[19:54] <dw1> you nailed it
[19:54] <Jordan_U> postmodern: Not "official", but https://askubuntu.com/questions/148932/how-can-i-get-a-list-of-all-repositories-and-ppas-from-the-command-line-into-an . Note that for most purposes "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" will get the job done.
[19:54] <scottjl> :-)
[19:54] <dw1> there's a slash at the end :] thanks
[19:55] <andywork> dw1: good luck with the porn site!
[19:55] <dw1> lol
[19:55] <scottjl> so easiest way to remove them is "mv example-09685.jpg* example-09685.jpg
[19:55] <scottjl> "
[19:55] <scottjl> do that for each funny file
[19:56] <scottjl> should trim off the hidden crap
[19:56] <dw1> yea, awesome
[19:58] <Jordan_U> dw1: By the way, that command isn't showing that there is a '\' at the end of the file, it's showing that there is whitespace (like a space or tab) at the end of the file.
[19:58] <dw1> ahh good point thx
[20:09] <StephenS> Jordan_U, that ppa works and vlc plays h256 fine
[20:09] <StephenS> just asking if ppa is any good
[20:10] <YankDownUnder> StephenS: Which PPA?
[20:10] <StephenS>  this ppa https://launchpad.net/~strukturag/+archive/ubuntu/libde265 ?
[20:10] <YankDownUnder> StephenS: If it's on Launchpad, I'll assume the bloke/girl has a reputation and it would be trustworthy.
[20:11] <StephenS> alright, ty
[20:12] <YankDownUnder> StephenS: I'd just make sure the person's name wasn't "Stephen" - very untrustworthy name that...(Oh wait! That's my name!) ;)
[20:14] <Batin> hello
[20:15] <Batin> what are the minimum RAM requirements for Ubuntu 17.04 i386 Desktop?
[20:15] <snowrichard2> hi
[20:15] <Batin> hi
[20:16] <YankDownUnder> Batin: I'm surprised you haven't looked: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME
[20:16] <YankDownUnder> "Let me Google that for you"
[20:17] <Batin> YankDownUnder, I have read it, but I think that it is for the AMD64
[20:19] <YankDownUnder> Batin: Easy -> have at least 2gb of RAM...you might find a bit of a struggle if your graphics card is "onboard"...4gb - at least - would suffice...also, bear in mind that 17.04 is a dev release...the LTS releases have more stability and support. :)
[20:19] <Batin> YankDownUnder, the problem is that the computer has only one GB of RAM
[20:20] <Batin> probably I will have to install 16.04 for i386
[20:20] <YankDownUnder> Batin: You might want to find a different linux distro for a machine of that spec...unless you're planning on adding RAM...
[20:20] <YankDownUnder> Batin: That might work.
[20:21] <Batin> ok, I will try
[20:21] <ducasse> Batin: you can try lubuntu
[20:21] <ducasse> Batin: 1gb is not much, though. depends on what you're going to use it for.
[20:22] <Batin> ducasse, ok, I will give it a try too. The computer is a bit old, 13 years
[20:22] <Bashing-om> Batin: +1 ^^ " Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware." .
[20:23] <Batin> I see
[20:23] <ducasse> Batin: it might be time to get a new one, then.
[20:23] <Batin> it is for an org with low budget
[20:25] <eva> any using remox os?
[20:25] <eva> remix
[20:26] <ducasse> Batin: still, 13 years is an immense amount of time in computing. you can't expect it to do all the things people want to do today.
[20:26] <YankDownUnder> eva: #remix-os
[20:26] <eva> yes
[20:26] <eva> none are here only me
[20:26] <scottjl> guess no one else uses it.
[20:26] <Batin> ducasse, I fear it is
[20:27] <Batin> I'll give lubuntu a try anyway
[20:27] <ducasse> Batin: if that turns out not to work, ask in ##linux for other options.
[20:28] <YankDownUnder> Batin: That's worth a try - there's also a few distros listed on distrowatch.com that are super small and might work, too.
[20:28] <Batin> ok, thanks to all
[20:28] <scottjl> puppy
[20:32] <Guest94732> hi
[20:33] <latenite> Hi folks how can I solve this error: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/69f45f3087594d07b2ac7af49b8f5b55
[20:36] <YankDownUnder> latenite: In a terminal, can you run: sudo apt-get -f -y install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade ==> ??
[20:37] <zhanx> if not the old tried and true rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists  and apt clean should work latenite
[20:41] <Bashing-om> latenite: Be aware : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1644498 . Upstream fix .
[20:44] <tonyt> The government today, announced that it's changing it's emblem from an Eagle to a CONDOM, because it more accurately reflects the government's political stance . A condom allows for inflation , halts production , destroys the next generation , protects a bunch of dicks , and gives you a sense of security while your actually being screwed . It just doesn't get more accurate than that
[20:46] <ducasse> !spam | tonyt
[20:48] <YankDownUnder> Spam...mm...with eggs...must be breakfast time. :)
[20:49] <chalcedony> My husband has Ubuntu 16.04. I had him remove and reinstall his LibreOffice, because apparently some update failed or whatever, it didn't have all the packages, such as Writer, and was opening his files read only.
[20:49] <chalcedony> There are two different versions of LibreOffice 5.2.6 and 5.3.2. He downloaded both versions, from LibreOffice, but neither seems to run. He has been trying different things for hours. Which version does he need? What does he need to do, so he can use it?
[20:51] <tarzeau> i'd  use icloud.com :)
[20:52] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: ' apt policy libreoffice ' shows what origin for the package ?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> !info libreoffice xenial | chalcedony
[20:54] <chalcedony> hi Bashing-om let me check that please
[20:55] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, its more than one line, pastebin?
[20:58] <daxorid> installation of ubuntu server hangs at "preparing linux-headers-4.4.0-62..." google results not helping. Any ideas?
[20:58] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/C01UYSM6
[21:00] <ducasse> chalcedony: does 'snap list' list anything?
[21:00] <daxorid> fwiw, the host is still pinging. so I'm guessing no kernel panic. Is there no way to escape to shell during installation to see what's happening?
[21:00] <MrKeuner> hi, dmesg displays time since first boot. e.g. [    1.138478] Does this feature have a special name?
[21:01] <ducasse> daxorid: have you got access to the console?
[21:01] <akik> MrKeuner: it's seconds
[21:02] <daxorid> ducasse: I have physical access, installation application still on-screen.
[21:02] <ducasse> daxorid: check v4, alt+f4
[21:02] <MrKeuner> akik, thanks
[21:02] <ducasse> *vc4
[21:02] <akik> MrKeuner: you can use dmesg -T for pretty formatting
[21:03] <fun> Any fedora user?
[21:03] <ikonia> fun: why ?
[21:03] <Menzador> fun: #fedora
[21:03] <fun> Need help about GUI
[21:03] <fun> ikonia:
[21:03] <ikonia> fun: use the #fedora channel then
[21:03] <fun> I am getting terminal only
[21:03] <daxorid> ducasse: thanks. that gives me what looks like a running log of the installer, but I'd like a shell, maybe to run top to see if it's spinning cpu, if it's exhausted memory, etc
[21:03] <Menzador> fun: #fedora will help ya
[21:04] <Menzador> !pm | fun
[21:04] <fun> How to create bootable usb
[21:05] <fun> I have iso
[21:05] <MrKeuner> akik, what I was really asking is whether reporting the seconds since boot instead of printing the actual timestamp would have a name of its own
[21:05] <ducasse> daxorid: check the other ttys, but i don't think there's a shell running
[21:05] <fun> Then How to install OS from terminal
[21:05] <chalcedony> ducasse, ~$ snap list -
[21:05] <chalcedony> No snaps are installed yet. Try "snap install hello-world".
[21:05] <ikonia> fun: #fedora is the channel you need, "/join #fedora" to join the channel
[21:06] <fun> It's not about fedora
[21:06] <ikonia> what is it about then ? as you've just asked for help fixing your fedora gui and help installing fedora
[21:06] <fun> About any os
[21:07] <ikonia> fun: we don't support any OS
[21:07] <ikonia> fun: join #fedora for help with your fedora problems
[21:07] <ducasse> chalcedony: ok. then i would just remove the libreoffice copies you downloaded and try 'sudo apt install libreoffice'. using software from the repos is preferable to downloading it from websites.
[21:07] <daxorid> ducasse: yeah, no shell. so, am I out of luck here? no way to troubleshoot this?
[21:08] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: That says not installed and looking to get from our repo . what show now ' dpkg -l | grep libreoffice ' ?
[21:10] <ducasse> daxorid: usually the log provides info on what has gone wrong, i have no other suggestion right now.
[21:11] <daxorid> allright, thanks anyway.
[21:12] <ducasse> daxorid: how long has it been sitting there?
[21:12] <daxorid> ducasse: roughly 30 minutes
[21:12] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, ~$ dpkg -l | grep libreoffice
[21:12] <chalcedony> nothing
[21:12] <chalcedony> i wonder what he did?
[21:13] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Let's ";ook" at what might be propr to attempting a install from our repo . what shows ' sudo find / -name libreoffice ' . Got to be a reason !
[21:14] <Bashing-om> "look"
[21:14] <marvin2> how can I grep for files that contain both "foo" and "bar" (not necessarily one after another)?
[21:14] <ducasse> daxorid: ok. i would probably rewrite the image (if possible on another stick) just in case and restart the installation, rather than spend more time on this.
[21:15] <daxorid> ducasse: finally found one thread with the exact same problem: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322570
[21:15] <daxorid> looks like it's just expected for installation to take 4 hours or so
[21:15] <daxorid> although I don't have RAID hardware on this box - otherwise symptoms are identical to that thread.
[21:16] <ducasse> daxorid: i know it can take long, i've just never seen it go beyond 30 minutes.
[21:16] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, it found a lot of them
[21:16] <ducasse> daxorid: sorry, i've really gtg.
[21:17] <CarlFK> bios settings for pxe installer only has efi, it boots, installer runs, installs everything to one partition.  bios for ssd only has legacy.  still says no boot.  bios screen: https://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/static/temp/d8-0.png
[21:17] <chalcedony> still finding
[21:17] <chalcedony> ducasse, have a good night
[21:17] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Be good to see what it found - in a pastebin, please - we consider if install from our repo is doable .
[21:18] <daxorid> ducasse: thanks
[21:19] <chalcedony> ok Bashing-om it's still finding :)
[21:20] <vimes> hello! Trying to set up a python3 virtualenv on a school owned ubuntu server (I have full root), but it keeps failing and I don't understand why. the log https://hastebin.com/ilabonozeh.sql
[21:21] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Long slow process . patience :)
[21:21] <CarlFK> vimes: well, the good news is I see the problem: locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[21:21] <CarlFK> vimes: I would ask in #python
[21:21] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, no problem. i hope it will let me copy all that ga
[21:25] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: ' try as ' sudo find / -name libreoffice | pastebinit ; when this process completes :)
[21:26] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Mind ya we want to find out where to install libreoffice from . we be "hunting" .
[21:28] <blackflow> vimes: you need to set up locale. dpkg-reconfigure locales
[21:28] <blackflow> vimes: need to set up whichever locale that module is trying to set
[21:44] <CarlFK> progress... I told the installer to install to the ssd, then grub to a usb stick.  booted, now I get "no such device (long guid)" ... grub rescue>
[21:47] <sam12> hello
[21:47] <CarlFK> hi
[21:47] <sam12> i am new to ubuntu and stuck in a problem
[21:47] <sam12> my os is not booting and my all imp data is in that
[21:48] <sam12> is there any way to restore that
[21:48] <ikonia> sam12: you'd get better help if you defined "not booting"
[21:49] <sam12> screen is black and a minus symbol keeps blinking
[21:51] <CarlFK> sam12: reboot, hold the shift key down (hmm, I think it matters left or right...  so do both)
[21:51] <sam12> ok then...
[21:52] <CarlFK> sam12: you may get a grub boot screen.  that will be progress.
[21:52] <sam12> first time it showed cant read data from hd0 entering grub rescue mode but from after that nothing
[21:54] <sam12> right now i am running ubuntu through removable media.. but cant access my old files
[21:54] <artur_> hi
[21:55] <davor> howdy
[21:55] <sam12> i have also tried boot repair disk
[21:57] <Sparrow_> sam12, in live mode have you opened gparted and looked at your partition from there
[21:57] <sam12> yes
[21:57] <davor> I just installed 17.04 on a lenovo g710 laptop and the wifi interface isn't listed in the gui, even though I can find it in the output of lspci, and it's not soft/hard blocked as per rfkill
[21:58] <davor> network manager only shows the wired connection
[21:58] <bekks> davor: So which chipset is it?
[21:58] <davor> oh, sorry. broadcom BCM43142
[21:59] <sam12> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/4oPYWMsSRkmu4c9HS5w9?signature=83fa5522bbe4d89e2374dae0286e5497e85df40d08d39b36570a01ecce0b0b26&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0OTI4MTQ3NzV9
[21:59] <Sparrow_> sam12, wht happens when you try to mount the damged os partition?
[22:00] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/Gu1G3kx4  1 hour paste
[22:01] <Sparrow_> sam12, sorry O can help with the lvm prob.
[22:01] <sam12> ok.. is he online?
[22:01] <Sparrow_> sorry.. No not O
[22:02] <sam12> any suggestion for me..
[22:03] <Sparrow_> sam12, what happens when you try to mount the damged os partition?
[22:03] <Sparrow_> sda1
[22:04] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Look'n :)
[22:05] <sam12> https://thepasteb.in/p/oYhlE3OQDA6tZ
[22:05] <chalcedony> ty Bashing-om :)
[22:07] <sam12> please check that link
[22:12] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Above my knowledge are all these " /timeshift/snapshots/ " . Seems though that most of the packages are still installed . let's see what ' sudo apt install --reinstall libroffice ' does for us .
[22:15] <latino31> there is a bug when trying to uninstall python3.5 with synaptic manager...it gives a list of items it wants to remove one of which is apparmor? i tried unintalling python3.5 in ubuntu 16.10 and it crashed my ubuntu because it tried to remove a lot of stuff
[22:15] <nacc> latino31: why are you removing python3.5?
[22:15] <latino31> synaptic package manager
[22:15] <ikonia> "why"
[22:15] <dax> that isn't a bug. apparmor depends on python3, current version of python3 in Ubuntu is python3.5
[22:16] <kostkon> latino31, python is a major part of ubuntu don't remove it
[22:16] <Sparrow_> Probably part of meta-package if memory serves.
[22:16] <latino31> kostkon, thanks for the info now after my ubuntu crashed a few weeks..
[22:16] <latino31> :)
[22:16] <latino31> ago
[22:16] <latino31> it would be nice to have a warning
[22:17] <latino31> how do you specify using python3.6 specefically
[22:17] <ikonia> you don't
[22:17] <nacc> latino31: just install python3.6 and then run `python3.6` ?
[22:17] <ikonia> use the version that ships with ubuntu
[22:17] <nacc> latino31: uh, you were given a warning, it removed a bunch of stuff
[22:18] <latino31> ikonia there is a program that uses python3.6...and python3.6 is in the repos
[22:18] <ikonia> latino31: what program depends on 3.6 specifically
[22:18] <latino31> nacc well i mean why would someone want to remove a program that will crash ubuntu
[22:18] <latino31> ikonia it uses 3.6 syntax
[22:18] <latino31> its not going to run in 3.5
[22:19] <latino31> i already talked to the creagtor
[22:19] <latino31> creator
[22:19] <ikonia> latino31: what application depends on 3.6
[22:19] <nacc> latino31: you are root, when you add/remove packages, you can do anything you want to your system
[22:20] <latino31> ikonia, it uses syntax specefic to 3.6...your asking useless questions ..as i said before the creator told me this and it runs for him in 3.5...
[22:20] <nacc> latino31: as root, it is presumed you know what you are doing
[22:20] <latino31> in 3.6 i mean
[22:20] <Batin> bye
[22:20] <ikonia> latino31: yes, you said that "what is the name/website of the application"
[22:20] <nacc> latino31: then install python3.6 (don't remove python3.5) and invoke python3.6 explicility
[22:20] <latino31> nacc i thought i tried that i can try again
[22:21] <nacc> latino31: well, if you removed python3.5 and haven't put it back yet, do that first
[22:21] <nacc> latino31: and replace all the packages you removed too
[22:21] <latino31> naac that worked ...i thought i had tried but i guess i did not
[22:21] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Above my knowledge are all these " /timeshift/snapshots/ " . Seems though that most of the packages are still installed . let's see what ' sudo apt install --reinstall libroffice ' does for us .
[22:21] <chalcedony> er darn
[22:21] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, Reading state information... Done
[22:21] <chalcedony> E: Unable to locate package libroffice
[22:21] <latino31> naac i did not remove it this time but i saw again how many packages it wanted to remove to i cancelled it
[22:21] <nacc> chalcedony: libreoffice
[22:22] <nacc> latino31: "nacc" not nacc. Use tab-complete to avoid that
[22:22] <latino31> python3.6 works thanks
[22:22] <nacc> latino31: err, "nacc" not naac, I meant
[22:23] <chalcedony> nacc, ha yes i just saw that.. trying again :)
[22:24] <chalcedony> nacc, Bashing-om its doing it :)
[22:24] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Sorry .. typo . correct to be ' sudo apt install --reinstall libreoffice ' :(
[22:27] <chalcedony> its at about 30%
[22:28] <artur_> bye
[22:30] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, husband says it is doing the wrong version - here are two different versions of LibreOffice 5.2.6 and 5.3.2.
[22:32] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Thn we looking at 3rd party . What do you want to do here ? we can see what the fetch is pastebin ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[22:33] <nacc> 5.3.2 isn't in any ubuntu (fwiw)
[22:33] <Handorio> LibreOffice (stable)
[22:33] <Handorio> Hauptprogramm
[22:33] <Handorio> Gewählt: LibreOffice 5.3.2 für Linux  and 5.2.6 for win
[22:33] <kostkon> chalcedony, there is a snap (provided by Canonical) and an deb version of libreoffice available
[22:33] <nacc> kostkon: ah yes, you're right, the snap is at 5.3.2.2
[22:33] <nacc> sorry for the misinformation earlier
[22:34] <kostkon> nacc, yeap
[22:35] <Bashing-om> nacc: "snap" is going to be a trial determining what is installed from where .. I do think .
[22:35] <nacc> Bashing-om: yeah, i have defaulted to looking at rmadiso, but didn't think of the snap case -- will write a local wrapper :)
[22:36] <Bashing-om> nacc: Better man than I !
[22:37]  * nacc wonders if we should teach the bot about that
[22:37] <dax> about what
[22:37] <nacc> as the same snap can be installed in 14.04+ now (aiui)
[22:37] <nacc> dax: we have !info <pkgname> <relesae>
[22:37] <dax> oh, snap versions
[22:37] <nacc> dax: but it misses the snaps of a similar/same name
[22:38] <dax> i think the code's at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots , if you want to have a go. it's over my head
[22:38] <nacc> dax: ack :) i'll look next week :)
[22:40] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, and all, my husband says he wants 5.2.6.2
[22:42] <lavinho> rtl8723bs ubuntu 17.04 ?
[22:44] <sshhelp> hey guys, struggling with SSH keys - I setup a server with a key I generated in putty, but I'm struggling to share that key with other servers, or alternatively generate a new key on a different server and allow that on the original one.
[22:44] <sshhelp> I feel like this shouldn't be difficult, but I'm obviously missing something
[22:44] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/3mF3aKwr
[22:44] <chalcedony> (sources.list.d)
[22:44] <sshhelp> how do you add authentication from an unapproved server to your server that only accepts its specific SSH key? I
[22:45] <sshhelp> ran ssh-copy-id from the Approved Server - Server 1 to the unapproved server 2, but that just allows me to connect that way, and I can't do the converse because authentication will fail with public key reject.
[22:47] <bekks> sshhelp: so ssh to server 2 and add the pubkey manually?
[22:47] <sshhelp> Thanks Bekks
[22:48] <sshhelp> Do I cat it to the bottom of hte authorised hosts file?
[22:48] <sshhelp> *append it
[22:48] <ikonia> authorized_key file
[22:48] <ikonia> not host
[22:48] <ikonia> hosts is for host based authentication
[22:48] <sshhelp> yes thank you, wrong word
[22:49] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Surprise surprise, libreoffice is not there ! . what about 'cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list" . any show for libreoffice there ?
[22:50] <sshhelp> straight in! Thank you both.
[22:51] <BAlan> quick question:   in order to run a full version of Ubuntu that will remember settings, install and keep apps, and boot and run it from a USB thumb drive, do I use the HD... version, or the LiveCD version, or does it matter ?   I want to have a FULL Stand-Alone instance of Ubuntu that I can Carry with me and boot on any machine I'm at..
[22:52] <sshhelp> So I'm trying to understand how to do this at scale. Do you have to manually copy to the authorised_key file every time? So run ssh-keygen, then manually copy each time? Wanting to do this on many servers, so a manual process seems excessive.
[22:52] <ikonia> sshhelp: you can share a public key
[22:52] <ikonia> you don't need a new one for each host
[22:52] <bekks> sshhelp: you dont copy the authorized_keys file, you copy the specific public key.
[22:53] <sshhelp> Thanks Bekks, I did the correct thing here. ]
[22:53] <vimes> sshhelp, ssh-copy-id <serveruser>@<serverip>
[22:54] <BAlan> quick question:   in order to run a full version of Ubuntu that will remember settings, install and keep apps, and boot and run it from a USB thumb drive, do I use the HD...
[22:54] <nacc> !patience
[22:54] <nacc> BAlan: --^
[22:54] <nacc> BAlan: you want to look at persistent USB
[22:54] <BAlan> or the LiveCD version, or does it matter ?   I want to have a FULL Stand-Alone instance of Ubuntu that I can Carry with me and boot on any machine I'm at..
[22:54] <nacc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[22:55] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, i believe that 'autoremove' was very effective. we downloaded the new ones from the LibreOffice webpage.
[22:55] <nacc> i think the latter is more current
[22:55] <sshhelp> Thanks vimes - I had used that, but that copied from Server 1 to Server 2 quite happily, but not the converse, because that one was missing the public key of server 2 in the authorised_key file, so it was rejecting the connection - the advice of @bekks and @ikonia clarified it for me.
[22:56] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: See : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice >>> Installing a newer version of LibreOffice than available via Ubuntu repositories . Then we want to KNOW that 5.2.6.2 is compatible with 16.04 .
[22:57] <sshhelp> Also is that a Pratchett reference? I really want to get a dog and call it Laddie... or perhaps Gaspode, depending on the dog.
[22:57] <YankDownUnder> Gaspode!
[22:57] <BAlan> thanks nacc...  I wasn't sure that question posted fully the first time, I only saw the second half of it..  sorry..
[22:58] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, reading ty :)
[22:58] <BAlan> i'll go check out those sites now...
[23:03] <Guest87067> I'm trying to dual boot win 10 with ubuntu 16.04, if I create a new partition in the ubuntu installer instead of in windows, will it mess up my old files?
[23:04] <Guest87067> and my old os?
[23:08] <uboontoo> nope, you can do it :)
[23:11] <Guest87067> so it should be fine?
[23:11] <Handorio> you can use ubuntu and win on the same hdd
[23:11] <Handorio> you win is safe
[23:12] <Handorio> and you can run it about the os loader
[23:12] <Handorio> *your win is safe
[23:12] <mach20x> Having issues with my graphics card after the update to the -72 kernel
[23:13] <tomreyn> Guest87067: this said, whenever you modify your partitions you should be sure you have current backups of all your data.
[23:13] <BAlan> additional question:  Persistant Ubuntu on a USB stick...   Already have the stick prepared, partitioned with 30gb main, 20gb data, and a 8+gb swap.   Have access to UnetBootIn that has versions up to 10.04 Net/HD/Live (64), plus daily_live64 sources for install...
[23:13] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, i read it. so we should remove the LibreOffices and start over again? (downloading here takes ages and makes the internet close to unusable for anytning else)
[23:13] <tomreyn> or rather, that's something you should be sure about in general, as well as how you will restore them and how long it will take oyu.
[23:14] <BAlan> is it possible to select one of those, which would be best ?, and install that onto the stick via that utility ?
[23:15] <BAlan> then modify that install to persist ?
[23:15] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: If you mean Ubuntu 10.04, you'll want something later than that (16.04 probably).
[23:17] <BAlan> Can the 10.04 still be upgraded to newer after install with upgrade utility ?
[23:17] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Honestly . If there are still libreoffice packages on the system; I would enable the PPA and try ' sudo apt install --reinstall libreoffice-gtk2 libreoffice-gnome ' : http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/08/03/libreoffice-5-2-released-how-to-install/ .
[23:18] <BAlan> too much of a jump ?
[23:18] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: Way too much.
[23:18] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: A clean install also keeps things nicer.
[23:19] <tomreyn> but yes, it's theoretically and practically possible
[23:20] <Bashing-om> BAlan: My 2 cents worth .. way too many changes ! from 10.04 to 16.94 .. and a LOT of bandwidth, time, and effort . Do a fresh clean install of 16.04 and in about 30 minutes done .
[23:20] <tomreyn> is it a good idea though? probably not
[23:20] <BAlan> if I d/l the 16.04 version, is there a specific install format, meaning NetInstall, etc that would be the best to use ?  Or just the main full LTS version ?
[23:20] <BAlan> and then use unetbootin to burn the ISO to the stick ?
[23:20] <tomreyn> if bandwidth / data transfer is a concern, use mini.iso
[23:21] <tomreyn> !mini
[23:21] <BAlan> was that mini.iso comment for me ?
[23:22] <tomreyn> yes BAlan
[23:22] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: I'm not sure how to install it persistently on a USB key.
[23:22] <erialdo> hello, I did a stupid thing. I accidentaly renamed the files and folder on home directory all
[23:22] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: I've done it once through VirtualBox, but not directly yet.
[23:22] <erialdo> now caja shows all the home directory at once
[23:22] <erialdo> not only desktop
[23:22] <erialdo> what are the defualt folders of ubuntu mate
[23:24] <tomreyn> BAlan: what are you trying to do there again? having a single ubuntu installation on a bootable usb stick, which you can carry around with you and use with multiple computers?
[23:24] <BAlan> I'll go with the v16.04 iso, and see how it works...   nacc gave me the urls for the persistant mods a few minutes ago, and I'll dive into those after install, but I'll prob be back..  Thanks All, please say a silent prayer...  ;-)
[23:25] <BAlan> tom: yes...
[23:25] <ChaiTRex> BAlan: No problem.
[23:26] <BAlan> tomreyn: anything to add ?
[23:26] <erialdo> hello How to make caja to work correctly again
[23:26] <erialdo> coz i did a stupid shit
[23:26] <erialdo> I accidentaly renamed all files and folders in my home directory
[23:27] <erialdo> fortunately those with dot are the same as before
[23:27] <tomreyn> BAlan: okay then i'd download mini.iso, use virtualbox (or some other virtualization) to boot off the iso image, attach the usb stick to the VM (pass through) and select the usb drive as target disk for th einstallation in the VM.
[23:28] <tomreyn> BAlan: to me, that's the easiest approach. but if, for example, you'r enot into virtualization,t hen maybe that's not for you.
[23:28] <lollhosh> hi guys
[23:28] <lollhosh> fine?
[23:28] <BAlan> thanks tom....
[23:28] <BAlan> good idea...
[23:30] <tomreyn> BAlan: personally i like this full installation (which is similar to Method 1 at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent) a lot more than the overlayed one (which is Method 0 on that guide)
[23:31] <tomreyn> it runs faster, is more flexible.
[23:31] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, do you know which PPAs he needs?
[23:31] <erialdo> @BAlan install virtualBox in a machine. Download the iso image from the ubuntu mate homepage. create a bootable usb using the program Rufus. now start virtualbox and create a virtual machine
[23:31] <erialdo> using the iso image
[23:32] <erialdo> if you want to install it in a pc use the bootable usb that you created with rufus
[23:33] <akik> erialdo: it would really help if you pastebin the output of "ls -l $HOME"
[23:34] <tomreyn> !paste | erialdo
[23:34] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa ' seems most likely .
[23:35] <akik> erialdo: i don't think you broke anything, anyhow
[23:35] <erialdo> @akik yeah
[23:35] <erialdo> but it is really annoying
[23:35] <erialdo> because it shows all the folders
[23:35] <erialdo> on desktop
[23:36] <erialdo> not only desktop
[23:36] <erialdo> I don;t know if you understand me
[23:37] <erialdo> the main thing is that not the default folders (Documents, Downloads etc ) are called 1.jpg, 2.jpg etc
[23:37] <erialdo> I know I should have looked where i type the command
[23:38] <erialdo> you have the default folders of ubuntu mate there
[23:38] <akik> erialdo: i think you can see the default dirs in /etc/skel or after creating a new user account and logging in with it
[23:38] <erialdo> could you tell me the names
[23:38] <erialdo> ah ok
[23:38] <erialdo> let me check
[23:38] <erialdo> you know my main problem is with caja because it shows all the folders
[23:39] <erialdo> not only Desktop when I boot
[23:39] <akik> erialdo: you can upload a screenshot at imgur.com
[23:39] <erialdo> yeah sure
[23:40] <ghost__> hi
[23:40] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, its doing its thing ty
[23:41] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Not out of the woods til the test in in :)
[23:41] <erialdo> http://imgur.com/a/PAti4
[23:41] <erialdo> @akik
[23:42] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, we have the keys. what's next?
[23:43] <akik> erialdo: did you move those dirs into /home/erialdo/Desktop/ ?
[23:44] <erialdo> no
[23:44] <erialdo> i renamed some of them
[23:44] <akik> it looks like it
[23:44] <erialdo> the one Desktop is the same as before
[23:44] <erialdo> Downloads too
[23:44] <erialdo> the others don't remember
[23:45] <erialdo> I thought if I renamed all could go back as it was
[23:45] <erialdo> apparently not
[23:45] <erialdo> caja is a little dizzy
[23:45] <akik> erialdo: pastebin "ls -l $HOME $HOME/Desktop"
[23:45] <erialdo> ok
[23:46] <erialdo> https://pastebin.com/622YMcC5
[23:47] <erialdo> sorry it was ls -l $HOME
[23:47] <chocolaterobot> guys, do you think it's a good idea to install Ubuntu on my new tablet (Chuwi Hi12)?
[23:47] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Did libreoffice install ? what results in starting it ?
[23:48] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, ill go take a look
[23:48] <bazhang> chocolaterobot, is that a touch device
[23:48] <chocolaterobot> bazhang: yes, it's a tablet that with a touchscreen http://en.chuwi.com/product/items/Chuwi-Hi12.html
[23:48] <bazhang> !touch | chocolaterobot
[23:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu-touch for that chocolaterobot
[23:49] <chocolaterobot> bazhang: i saw that page and didn't see my tablet there
[23:49] <chocolaterobot> ok, will visit that irc room
[23:49] <erialdo> https://pastebin.com/JHvUmYjd
[23:49] <erialdo> @akik
[23:49] <bazhang> chocolaterobot, thats the channel for it
[23:49] <chocolaterobot> thanks
[23:50] <chull> Bashing-om, ~$ libreoffice
[23:50] <chull> The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[23:50] <chull> sudo apt install libreoffice-common
[23:52] <Bashing-om> chull: seems rasonable . do it .
[23:53] <akik> erialdo: sorry imgur is acting on me. won't let me zoom on the imgur picture
[23:53] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, doing it :)
[23:53] <Bashing-om> chull: smsame person as chalcedony ??
[23:53] <imightbestupid12> so i set the chmod / 777 for my webserver running as root and i was wondering what do i need to do to revert those changes?
[23:53] <erialdo> @akik maybe is nothing
[23:53] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, yes - hubby's computer
[23:54] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: K .
[23:54] <erialdo> it's just that caja is not working that good
[23:54] <chalcedony> :)
[23:54] <imightbestupid12> guys?
[23:54] <erialdo> @imightbestupid12 there is no undo
[23:54] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: A slight oversight on my part . the system is fully updated at this time, yes ?
[23:55] <imightbestupid12> what is the default permission?
[23:55] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, yes i think so.. he does daily automatic updates
[23:56] <akik> erialdo: sorry i don't know why those dirs and files appear on your desktop. which command did you use that caused this?
[23:56] <erialdo> ls | cat -n | while read n f; do mv "$f" "$n.jpg"; done
[23:57] <erialdo> @akik but i did it in the wrong directory
[23:57] <erialdo> @akik i felt dumb
[23:57] <erialdo> @akik hey akik no problem
[23:58] <erialdo> @akik maybe I will do a format and fresh reinstall
[23:58] <akik> erialdo: you can just create a new user account
[23:58] <erialdo> @akik nah too many applications
[23:59] <erialdo> are those there too?
[23:59] <erialdo> in the new account
[23:59] <akik> erialdo: yes
[23:59] <erialdo> the same apps again ?
[23:59] <SimonT> got a question.. I have 3 HDD's in this box, I'm installing ubuntu server and I want to have the 2nd & 3rd drives available. What do I use for the mount point?
[23:59] <akik> erialdo: unless you installed those in your home dir