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franciskis there a way to change the color of the color and appearance of the kde system bar03:11
francisk is there a way to change the color and appearance of the kde system bar03:11
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valoriewow, such patience05:10
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sebastian_a06:33
lordievaderGood morning06:41
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walter__hello i have a probloem07:38
walter__problem07:38
walter__if i play minecraft my desktop is often freeze and then show The graphical interface has been restarted07:41
valoriehi walter07:42
walter__hi sorry for my bad english07:43
valoriecan you start the game from the commandline, so you can see the output?07:43
walter__ok how i do this07:43
walter__command07:43
valorieusually just like "minecraft &"07:44
valoriein a konsole07:44
walter__[3] 468907:45
walter__[2]   Exit 127                minecraft07:45
valoriewow, not very helpful07:45
walter__yes07:46
valoriehow did you install the game?07:46
walter__there is not probleme with game they are problems with that sometimes its freeze and then works i think it a problem with my  graphical interface07:47
valoriehmm, looks like Ubuntu has "minetest" in the archive07:47
walter__wait07:48
valoriedoes anything else freeze your computer?07:48
walter__yes07:48
walter__how send pictures07:48
walter__here07:48
valorieah, so it isn't a problem with the game07:48
valorie!paste07:48
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:48
walter__thx07:48
walter__http://imgur.com/a/lAzPA the problem is in the bottom07:50
walter__right07:50
walter__Work area effects have been restarted due to the reset graphic07:51
valorieyeah07:51
valorieI've not seen something like that before, but it is definately in kwin, because it says so07:52
valoriekwin is part of plasma, so I would ask about this in #plasma07:52
valoriemost of the developers are in Germany, and it's the weekend, so it might be pretty slow07:53
valorieor, you could post on the KDE forum07:54
walter__thanks07:54
* valorie is about to head to bed too07:54
valoriesorry I could not help, walter__07:54
valoriebest of luck!07:54
walter__you have tried that's very friendly07:55
shane_hey08:24
walter__hi08:41
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soleilhi08:58
acheronUK!ask09:07
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:07
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mattpalermoHello all!09:44
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> hi09:45
mattpalermo:)09:47
mattpalermovalorie: Are you here today? I have a question about accessability and I saw that you have a blog post about KDE accessability.09:47
acheronUKwill be about 2 or 3 am where valorie is I think09:49
mattpalermoAh ok. Well she is probably asleep then.09:49
mattpalermoA blind person came on here the other day asking for help with Kubuntu. It was then that I realised how difficult it is to use without sight.09:50
BluesKajHiyas all10:18
mattpalermoHello!10:19
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ThePCMedicInIAI have just recently switched from the GNOME3 desktop environment to the KDE/Plasma de as well as upgraded from 16.10 to 17.04.  The Wikipedia entry for Kubuntu states: "If "Desktop effects" are desired, a supported GPU is required."14:54
ThePCMedicInIAMy system has an NVIDIA GT 218 (GeForce 210) graphics card.  Is its GPU still supported?14:55
DarinMiller_Hi ThePCMedicInIA14:56
DarinMiller_I recommend installing NVidia's proprietary driver.  The Driver Manager in System Settings should detect the correct driver.14:58
DarinMiller_ThePCMedicInIA: If Driver Manager fails to detect the driver, install the driver from the terminal: sudo apt install nvidia-34014:59
ThePCMedicInIAThat makes sense to me as well.  And immediately after installaton, when that was recommended that is what I did.  But it caused so many issues with the desktop environment's behavior that I tried switching back to the generic driver as an experimentr. And the problems went away14:59
ThePCMedicInIANow the:  What would that lead you to think?15:00
BluesKajThePCMedicInIA:  yes i have the same card, it uses the nvidia-340 driver as DarinMiller_ states15:01
ThePCMedicInIAAlso:  The question that I asked was:  Is the GPU used by NVIDIA's GeForce210 card series still supported by this latest iteration of Ubuntu/Kubuntu15:02
BluesKajyes as a legacy driver15:02
BluesKajworks fine here15:02
ThePCMedicInIAOK.  So I think the answer to my original question is Yes.  It is still supported in 17.04 AND that the optimal driver to use is the one provided by NVIDIA.  Correct?15:03
BluesKajyes it will be listed in system settings>driver  manager15:04
DarinMiller_BluesKaj: you have not issues with 17.04, NVidia 210 and the 340 drivers?  My issues was km-server crashes when resuming from sleep.15:05
ThePCMedicInIABut that begs one last question:  The driver updater provides a choice between 2 NVIDIA provided drivers.  Of those, should I choose the 'Legacy' driver or the 'Latest and Greatest' driver?  Or should I just try one and if it doesn't work that great use the other?15:05
BluesKajDarinMiller_:  no issues here, but I use suspend15:06
DarinMiller_suspend = sleep, yes?15:06
BluesKajwhat's the latest-greatest driver, ThePCMedicInIA?15:06
ThePCMedicInIAHonestly, I don't remember.  It is the one 'recommended' by the driver manager15:07
BluesKajDarinMiller_:  suspend or hibernate in the kmenu/leave option , i use suspend15:08
BluesKajThePCMedicInIA:  hang on let me check , this might take a few mins15:09
ThePCMedicInIASorry BluesKaj, what are you talking about?  I do not know that much about the KDE/Plasma environment15:09
DarinMiller_ThePCMedicInIA: Normally is use the recommended driver (340) but with recent releases, I had to revert to using the 304 driver.  But BluesKaj is successfully using the 340 driver with the 210 card.15:10
DarinMiller_BluesKaj:  Did you enable the Nvidia ppa?  I had trouble with my older hw with and without the ppa on the 340 driver using, thus I used the 304.15:11
ThePCMedicInIAOK DarinMiller!  I'm going to switch to the 304 driver then since the 340 caused my system issues before15:11
ThePCMedicInIAThank for your help and recommendations.  I'll see you again soon I suspect15:12
DarinMiller_Heading out for the day (bathroom remodel time).  TTYAL.15:13
BluesKajok back on kubuntu...been trying out debian in a dul boot and sometimes I orget where I am :-)15:13
BluesKajand forget how to spell15:14
BluesKajok DarinMiller_ have  fun :-015:14
weastieHey!15:21
weastieI'm on the newest version of kubuntu. Whenever I enter in a video game (cs:go or dota) the rest of my desktop fucks up. Like, if I switch workspaces while in the game.15:23
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BluesKajweastie:  workspaces like actitvities?15:28
BluesKajweastie:  and no "f" words please, not necessary15:28
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sputnik0hello, I have a question: On Kubuntu 17.04 I can't get palm detection to work, the options for it are greyed out. Does this have anything to do with Kubuntu using libinput and not synaptics?19:10
dajomu1Hi, have anyone successfully installed mariadb on kubuntu 17.0419:16
dajomu1anyone here? cannot see any conversation19:41
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> hello19:43
valoriedajomu1: this is a help channel19:43
valoriedo you need help with something?19:43
valoriehi acheronUK19:43
dajomu1valorie: yes, I need help with a mariadb installation/conf19:44
valorieuh19:44
valoriewell, ask, it's possible I can help19:44
dajomu1valorie: Please have a look at the following output.19:44
dajomu1sudo systemctl enable mysql19:44
dajomu1Synchronizing state of mysql.service with SysV service script with /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install.19:44
dajomu1Executing: /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install enable mysql19:44
dajomu1Failed to enable unit: Refusing to operate on linked unit file mysql.service19:44
dajomu1I want digikam to use mariadb, but this is stopping me19:45
valorieif you want to use mariadb, why are you enabling mysql instead?19:45
dajomu1I followed an installation instruction19:46
dajomu1https://websiteforstudents.com/wordpress-beginners-installing-mariadb-ubuntu-17-04/19:47
valoriehave you uninstalled mysql?19:48
dajomu1I do not have mysql installed19:48
valorieok19:49
valoriehaving not done this myself, I don't have any special insight19:49
dajomu1I installed mariadb, but since it is kinda based on mysql I believe it uses "mysql" in order to work with programs that expects mysql19:50
valorieso: you can ask this in #ubuntu, where there are a lot more people19:50
valoriedajomu1: correct19:50
dajomu1I tried that, but no response so far19:50
valorieas the tutorial says, one should be able to just drop it in19:50
valorieah19:50
valoriethe other suggestion is to try #digikam19:50
valoriethat will be a much smaller channel though19:51
dajomu1valorie: #digikam sent me to ubuntu as well :)19:52
valoriethis isn't really a kubuntu question19:52
valorieha19:52
valoriewell, it's a huge channel, and is your best bet19:52
valorieI suggest using a pastebin for your error messages though19:53
valorie!paste19:53
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:53
valorieerr, output19:53
dajomu1I was expecting someone at #Kubuntu was using digikam/maridb and that they would face the same issue. Especially since I have a fresh installation19:54
valorieone thing - when initializing mysql, I used return rather than a password19:54
valoriethis was for amarok19:54
dajomu1I do not think that is the issue19:54
valoriewell, mariadb was quite popular for awhile19:55
dajomu1not anymore?19:55
valorieseems like people don't care as much these days19:55
dajomu1maybe I should try to install mysql then19:55
valoriefor awhile it seemed like database wars19:56
valorienosql, etc.19:56
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dajomu1yeah19:56
dajomu1I really don't care either. I just want things to work19:56
valoriesame here19:56
dajomu1I installed Picasa on my windows PC and it just works. I do not have to worry about DBs19:57
valorieis picasa still a thing?19:58
valorieI thought they replaced it with the rather horrible google photos19:58
valoriewhich also works, but not enjoyably19:59
dajomu1you can still use it on the desktop, but there is no integration with google photos19:59
valorieI've used it in linux, but that was quite awhile ago19:59
dajomu1Since Google is ditching it I am trying to replace it with digikam, but I have having to mess with DBs and linux issues20:00
dajomu1I have = I hate20:00
valoriewell, digikam has lots of loyal users who love it20:01
valorieI've not taken the time to organize my photos20:01
dajomu1too bad20:01
valoriereally should....20:01
dajomu1yeah. I tried the google photos way, but found out that it just too messy20:01
valorieI've set up digikam but had no problem with a db20:01
valorieit just worked20:02
dajomu1It worked for me on earlier distros, but not anymore20:02
valoriehmmmm20:02
* valorie installs20:02
dajomu1I found an old bug on fedora which I have to study a bit more. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=101431120:03
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1014311 in systemd "RFE: allow systemctl enable work on symlinked units" [Unspecified,Closed: rawhide]20:03
dajomu1ubottu: just beat you by a nanosec :)20:03
ubottudajomu1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:03
dajomu1ohh20:03
valorie is there some reason you didn't want to use Sqlite?20:06
valoriethat's the default20:06
dajomu1Sqlite tends to slow down when you have a large collection.20:09
dajomu1I am not too updated, but I think >100k items and it starts to slow down20:09
dajomu1items includes tags, metadata, etc20:10
valorieok20:10
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chucky35768bye bye20:36
lacejaI'm trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04, using muon updater but, it keeps crashing.  There's nothing reason given in the error message.  I've insured everything is up to date. Help!20:42
acheronUK14.04 -> 16.04 upgrades are advised against20:47
acheronUKhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu20:48
acheronUK"Upgrade from the 14.04 LTS is still problematic. Please install a fresh copy of 16.04.2 after running a backup of all your data. "20:48
petropolari, do you know it?20:48
lacejaNo. is there a website?20:50
petrocan anyone help me with a vpn problem?20:50
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amundsenhi21:58
amundseni'm trying to use amule in kubuntu 17.04 but it crashes when opening21:59
amundsendoes anyone know how to solve this?21:59
valoriehuh, amule22:04
valorie!info amule22:04
ubottuamule (source: amule): client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.3.2-1build2 (zesty), package size 1516 kB, installed size 4833 kB22:04
valorieamundsen: open it in the commandline, and see if the output gives you some clue22:05
valoriethat isn't Kubuntu software22:05
valoriehaven't heard about it for yonks22:05
acheronUKamazed it still exists!22:05
amundsenit's very useful when you can't find something in torrent networks22:06
sputnik0Hello22:06
sputnik0Question: I'm using kubuntu on a Dell XPS13 and can't seem to get palm detection to work. Searching online has led me to believe this is due to libinput being used and the gui not supporting all the features yet22:08
sputnik0Does anyone know where the libinput configs are kept on Kubuntu 17.04?22:08
valorieconfigs are in ~/.config22:09
valorieor possibly ~/.local22:09
sputnik0Cool thanks, checking it out now22:09
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sinthetekI need to know how to enable netbook workspaces in kubuntu 17.04. Not seeing the option anywhere in system-settings22:22
sinthetekseems like google searches are becoming less and less relevant as time progresses for some reason... i used to be able to quickly find solutions to all of my problems and questions within a couple of minutes22:24
sputnik0the problem is with everyone trying to "game the system". SEO breaks relevance imho.22:25
acheronUKsinthetek: netbook plasma shell was dropped by KDE in plasma 5. no longer exists22:27
sintheteksputnik0: i'd be inclined to agree except that most of the first results still point to official project pages. if you include the google itself as one of those gamers then yeah, you're prob right. i think it disregards how many keywords are present in a given page when sorting results or something22:30
sinthetekprob to make the algorithm faster or something22:30
sinthetekacheronUK: ahh yeah, i guess that would explain why i can't find much on it then. thanks22:31
valoriesinthetek: if you right-click the plasma menu button, you can try out the alternates22:34
valorieone of them is much like netbook used to be22:34
valorieeverything is touch-ready now, so there really wasn't a need for it anymore22:35
sinthetekvalorie: my kde vocab is a bit rusty. is that the menu button in the top right corner? would the shells/layouts be listed under 'activities'?22:46
valorieuh, my button is in the bottom left, but you can put the panel where ever you want22:48
valorieand put the icons where ever you want22:48
valorieplasma symbol is like stacked dots and >22:49
valorieanyway, right-click and one of your options will be Alternatives22:50
sinthetekahh okay, i think it was called something else last i used kde on the reg (but maybe i'm just off)22:50
valorieright, it used to be the K22:51
valoriesince the branding has changed, now it uses the Plasma logo22:51
valorieKDE is the community22:51
valorielong time ago I think we used to put our Kubuntu logo there22:51
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> lonnnngggg ago lol23:09
valorieyup, before I was part of the team23:15

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