| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 03:59 |
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| lotuspsychje | hey EriC^^ Bashing-om Ben64 | 04:04 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 04:04 |
| EriC^^ | how's it going? | 04:05 |
| lotuspsychje | great here | 04:05 |
| lotuspsychje | installing different flavors | 04:05 |
| lotuspsychje | but nothing suits me :p | 04:05 |
| lotuspsychje | gnome,plasma,mate | 04:05 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Been a good day here in main . active and interesting :) | 04:06 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 04:06 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: " nothing suits me ' when all else fails . KISS -> xfce . | 04:07 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: well for me, i like xubuntu but for my customers i need something little more eyecandy and intuitive | 04:08 |
| EriC^^ | unity | 04:09 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: KDE for eye candy .. huh ? | 04:09 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: yes! | 04:10 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: lags to much here on an ssd... | 04:10 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: SSD here if finally performing well . But I must say it is but marginally faster than a core install on a spinner . | 04:12 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: nice to hear! what did you think solved it? | 04:15 |
| Bashing-om | ARA errors . setting nuios raid enabled ( AHCI ) ; system puking all over it's self I will say is the nouveau driver . | 04:17 |
| Bashing-om | ATA* | 04:17 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 04:18 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: I have begun to uncross My fingers . system seems stable ! | 04:19 |
| lotuspsychje | !yay | 04:24 |
| ubot5 | Glad you made it! :-) | 04:24 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Only 6 months efforts by all parties concerned !! | 04:27 |
| lotuspsychje | morning baizon | 04:34 |
| baizon | hi lotuspsychje | 04:34 |
| baizon | well that was a short trip for me :D | 04:34 |
| baizon | ... will install kubuntu today :D | 05:13 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: was horrible for me :p | 05:16 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: tested gnome,plasma,mate.. | 05:16 |
| baizon | im on manjaro right now, but i dislike the update-policy | 05:17 |
| baizon | there its... when the dev is in the mood to upgrade, hes making it :) | 05:17 |
| Ben64 | lotuspsychje: hey | 05:20 |
| baizon | damn amazon, i have to wait for my new cpu :( | 05:21 |
| lotuspsychje | grrr | 05:24 |
| Bashing-om | !cve | 05:25 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: out of stock or delivery lags? | 05:25 |
| baizon | out of stock | 05:25 |
| baizon | 1 month waiting time | 05:25 |
| Ben64 | what cpu | 05:27 |
| baizon | Ben64: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X | 05:27 |
| Ben64 | good, was gonna be disappointed if you got a non-ryzen | 05:28 |
| baizon | for only 235€ | 05:28 |
| baizon | :) | 05:28 |
| Ben64 | ~204.17€ here | 05:29 |
| lotuspsychje | jesus | 05:31 |
| lotuspsychje | they sold out so much or something? | 05:31 |
| baizon | i guess | 05:32 |
| baizon | ok, im out installing kubuntu 17.04. Wish me luck :D | 05:36 |
| EriC^^ | the ubuntu server got real slow for me | 05:42 |
| EriC^^ | it's at 89% , do you think i should just close it and start again? aria2c would continue? | 05:43 |
| Ben64 | aria2c continues if it can | 05:44 |
| Ben64 | not all servers support it | 05:44 |
| EriC^^ | i think it's ubuntu's server, it took forever to load the main page rightnow | 05:44 |
| EriC^^ | or my connection maybe? | 05:45 |
| Ben64 | san fran had a big power outage | 05:45 |
| Ben64 | could be affecting internet stuff | 05:45 |
| EriC^^ | hmm i tried another d/l to see how it would go, and it opened another terminal d/l the same 89% together | 05:50 |
| EriC^^ | didn't know it would do that, i wonder if it will work together correctly, the 2 are d/ling simultaneously right now | 05:50 |
| lotuspsychje | morning ducasse | 06:08 |
| lotuspsychje | wont take long for wakeup tea now :p | 06:09 |
| Bashing-om | can takes no more . G nite \o | 06:14 |
| ducasse | hiya lotus :) | 06:15 |
| ducasse | just missed bashing-om :) | 06:15 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: ping? | 06:19 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 06:25 |
| lotuspsychje | waky waky | 06:25 |
| ducasse | :) | 06:25 |
| ducasse | new server installer - bad news to start the day with :( | 06:26 |
| lotuspsychje | aw | 06:29 |
| ducasse | whenever canonical decides something is broken and the way to fix it is to make their own, i typically never like the end result :) | 06:30 |
| ducasse | well, we'll see i guess. maybe it will support zfs for root. | 06:31 |
| DalekSec | So, not upstart better than sysvinit, nor lightdm over gdm, or ubiquity? | 06:31 |
| ducasse | upstart was nice, as was lightdm, ubiquity i have no special fondness for. i admit i haven't used it that much, as i always use the images that has the debian installer. | 06:40 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 06:41 |
| EriC^^ | morning lordievader | 06:41 |
| ducasse | morning EriC^^, lordievader | 06:41 |
| EriC^^ | morning ducasse o/ | 06:41 |
| lordievader | Hey EriC^^, ducasse | 06:41 |
| lordievader | How are you both? | 06:41 |
| EriC^^ | good here, thanks, you? | 06:42 |
| ducasse | me fine, thanks :) hope all is well? | 06:42 |
| lordievader | Doing good here too :0 | 06:42 |
| lotuspsychje | hey lordievader morning | 06:44 |
| EriC^^ | i think i screwed up | 06:51 |
| EriC^^ | one aria2c is showing 99% the others 98%, i dont think it integrated them and kind of multithreaded | 06:52 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: oh? | 06:52 |
| EriC^^ | the last 1% is taking forever, 7mins remaining | 06:53 |
| EriC^^ | something is wrong with the ubuntu servers or my connection, trying to download 17.04 | 06:53 |
| DalekSec | ducasse: I think lightdm is pretty nice, would be great if they could move away from the CLA.. Debian's installer can actually have a graphical side, working with squashfs' too. | 06:54 |
| EriC^^ | i wonder if i can truncate the last part since it multi-downloaded and let it continue | 06:54 |
| EriC^^ | 10mins remaining, might as well make some coffee in this time :) | 06:55 |
| ducasse | DalekSec: yes, i've tried it. lightdm is probably the nicest dm still being maintained, i only wish dm-tool received more attention. | 06:58 |
| baizon | wow | 07:00 |
| baizon | lotuspsychje: youre right | 07:00 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: horrible? | 07:00 |
| lordievader | Hey lotuspsychje, how are you? | 07:00 |
| lotuspsychje | great lordievader | 07:00 |
| lordievader | :) | 07:00 |
| baizon | lotuspsychje: its like hell and heaven compared to manjaro | 07:01 |
| baizon | all themes are broken | 07:01 |
| baizon | software center crashing all the time | 07:01 |
| baizon | and im using it for 2 min now | 07:02 |
| lotuspsychje | its so scrambled... | 07:02 |
| baizon | it feels like an late alpha/early beta | 07:03 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 07:03 |
| lotuspsychje | unfinished | 07:03 |
| ducasse | plasma? | 07:03 |
| baizon | very much | 07:03 |
| baizon | ducasse: kubuntu | 07:03 |
| ducasse | ah. | 07:03 |
| baizon | i guess i try another distro then | 07:04 |
| lotuspsychje | i think to install 17.10 alpha2 gnome/wayland and heavy bugout every day | 07:04 |
| lotuspsychje | lets make gnome rock again lol | 07:05 |
| baizon | kde is stable, i had no issues at all on manjaro | 07:05 |
| lotuspsychje | we are a community right, we can influence this | 07:05 |
| baizon | but on kde everything is broken | 07:05 |
| lordievader | baizon: What version of Kubuntu are you running? | 07:05 |
| baizon | lordievader: 17.04 | 07:06 |
| lordievader | Hmm, never had any issue with that version. | 07:06 |
| lordievader | Ran nicely on my test box from the release of 16.10 till now. | 07:06 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: i tested xenial kubuntu-desktop, same experience as baizon | 07:06 |
| lordievader | What kind of issue were you two having? | 07:07 |
| lotuspsychje | laggy overal system | 07:07 |
| baizon | lordievader: applications crashing, theme broken, login screen broken | 07:07 |
| lotuspsychje | first boot black screen | 07:07 |
| baizon | and thats 4 min into the system | 07:07 |
| lotuspsychje | sluggy working overall.. | 07:07 |
| lordievader | Hmm... did you voice this in #kubuntu-devel? They might be able to fix these kind of issues. | 07:08 |
| lordievader | If they are not aware it will not be fixed (unless they notice it themselves). | 07:09 |
| lotuspsychje | if it does those kind of things by default on an ssd... | 07:10 |
| lotuspsychje | doesnt sound too good | 07:10 |
| lotuspsychje | gnome was a lil bit faster | 07:12 |
| lordievader | There is not a baloo going haywire? | 07:13 |
| lotuspsychje | but still not like unity speed | 07:13 |
| baizon | unity is "to old" | 07:13 |
| lotuspsychje | im planning to bug out 17.10 real heavyly.. | 07:14 |
| lotuspsychje | devs wont sleep anymore | 07:14 |
| baizon | i already did with 17.04 :D | 07:14 |
| lordievader | I do agree that Kubuntu is slower from, say, a custom Plasma desktop. But that seems to be *Ubuntu policy. Throw as much software on there until it barely runs. | 07:14 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl shower | 07:15 |
| baizon | ehhh, even the usb creator isnt working | 07:19 |
| baizon | now my locale is broken :/ | 07:22 |
| EriC^^ | the md5sum checks out! :) | 07:30 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: doing a fresh install? | 07:31 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse: no just trying it out in a vm :) | 07:32 |
| ducasse | right, have fun :) | 07:33 |
| ducasse | lordievader: seen this? http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Server-New-Install | 07:34 |
| immu | ducasse: hi, you didn't say which distro are you using? | 07:35 |
| lordievader | ducasse: Nope, havent. Wonder why we need a new installer though. | 07:35 |
| * lordievader rarely uses installers these days | 07:36 | |
| ducasse | lordievader: that's what i'm wondering, too. i would assume it would be less effort to just extend the existing debian installer... | 07:41 |
| lordievader | For example... | 07:43 |
| lordievader | I guess that is a no no in Linux world. Either you fork or you don't do it at all. | 07:44 |
| ducasse | and preferably you don't fork either ;) | 07:53 |
| lordievader | Yeah, a new wheel is better. | 07:54 |
| lordievader | Because this one is square! | 07:54 |
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| baizon | omfg | 08:24 |
| baizon | themes are working perfectly now :) | 08:26 |
| baizon | wow, this distro is nice :) | 08:26 |
| immu | baizon: which distro are you using | 08:30 |
| baizon | Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 B55 Processor (800MHz) • Memory: 7.6 GiB Total (6.4 GiB Free) • Storage: 1.3 TB / 2.1 TB (772.9 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD790 Host Bridge • Uptime: 12m 33s | 08:30 |
| immu | baizon: thanks how can i do the same | 08:36 |
| baizon | immu: https://antergos.com/try-it/ | 08:37 |
| immu | ducasse: are non-ubuntu related osEs are allowed to be here discussed | 08:38 |
| baizon | immu: yes they are | 08:39 |
| immu | * This is a channel for high quality on-topic non-support discussions about Ubuntu | 08:39 |
| immu | so thats why i asked and wondered :) | 08:39 |
| ducasse | immu: we're usually not very strict in here :) | 08:40 |
| immu | ducasse: cool ;) | 08:40 |
| lordievader | Does that mean it is time to promote Gentoo? :P | 08:41 |
| immu | Gentoo are for Legends | 08:41 |
| immu | ducasse: how can i get a kernel with BFQ in it ? | 08:43 |
| immu | noop deadline [cfq] are the current present ones | 08:43 |
| immu | and when was the switch was made to cfq from deadline | 08:43 |
| immu | ducasse: please enlighten us :) | 08:44 |
| lordievader | Wasn't bfq planned for 4.11? | 08:44 |
| lordievader | Don't see the option for 4.10. | 08:45 |
| lordievader | At least simply grepping for 'bfq' doesn't give results. | 08:46 |
| immu | lordievader: 4.12 | 08:46 |
| lordievader | Ah, 4.12: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=BFQ-Queued-Linux-4.12 | 08:46 |
| lordievader | Well, the newest release if 4.11-rc7, so I guess you just have to wait ;) | 08:47 |
| immu | so we would have to wait for 17.10 to get 4.12 | 08:49 |
| immu | cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler | 08:50 |
| immu | mine is using CFQ, which is strange as earlier it was switched to, Deadline | 08:50 |
| lordievader | Not necesarily, there is a kernel ppa. Or you compile your own kernel. | 08:51 |
| lordievader | Compiling your own kernel is not supported, but it works fine. | 08:51 |
| immu | i had done that long long time ago | 08:51 |
| immu | lordievader: any guide for it | 08:52 |
| immu | ubuntu frendly | 08:52 |
| lordievader | Back when I still had Ubuntu virtual machines running, they all ran a much newer kernel than the version originally had. | 08:52 |
| immu | http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/11/bfq-loads-programs-extremely-fast-under-heavy-disk-io-workloads-ubuntu/ | 08:53 |
| lordievader | immu: A guide for compiling a kernel? It is quite simple. Download the source, configure using 'make menuconfig', build 'make -jX', install 'make install && make modules_install'. | 08:53 |
| lordievader | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel | 08:53 |
| immu | lordievader: thanks | 08:54 |
| lordievader | They seem to build a package for it. | 08:54 |
| immu | http://git.kernel.dk/cgit/linux-block/commit/?h=for-next&id=aee69d78dec0ffdf82e35d57c626e80dddc314d5 | 08:54 |
| immu | check this commit, it highlights the benefits of using a bfq enabled kernel | 08:55 |
| lordievader | Interesting charts :) | 08:57 |
| immu | i like your IRC nickname lordievader | 08:57 |
| lordievader | Hehehe, thanks :) | 08:58 |
| immu | https://liquorix.net/#features lordievader you check this one or used | 08:59 |
| immu | lordievader: check and tell me | 09:01 |
| lordievader | Nope, never have. | 09:02 |
| lordievader | The default kernel suffices for me. | 09:02 |
| lordievader | Sure, I optimized it a bit for my system. | 09:02 |
| baizon | damn, my system is broken now :( | 09:05 |
| baizon | thanks kubuntu :/ | 09:05 |
| immu | see ya all later | 09:09 |
| lordievader | baizon: Broken how? | 09:11 |
| lordievader | Doesn't boot? | 09:11 |
| baizon | it boots, everything is fine | 09:11 |
| baizon | just the damn theme is broken now and i have to reset | 09:11 |
| lordievader | The breeze theme? | 09:12 |
| baizon | yes | 09:12 |
| baizon | task switcher is gone | 09:13 |
| lordievader | Is this a new profile? | 09:13 |
| baizon | no | 09:13 |
| lordievader | Could you check if a new user has the same issues? | 09:13 |
| baizon | no, only for me | 09:15 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 10:19 |
| ducasse | hi BluesKaj | 12:33 |
| ducasse | re the idiot in #u, he's been doing this for ages now. | 12:33 |
| BluesKaj | Hi ducasse, heh, i was just teasing ikonia about it :-) | 12:35 |
| ducasse | you might remember him as 'dreaman' | 12:35 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, vaguely | 12:36 |
| ducasse | i don't understand why he's putting so much effort into it, must be a kid with no life :) | 12:37 |
| ducasse | BluesKaj: i got a present today, a 1gb wd external drive :) | 12:38 |
| ducasse | itb, obviously | 12:39 |
| ducasse | 1tb - argh. | 12:39 |
| BluesKaj | ok , nice, an enclosed esata to sata/usb drive? | 12:40 |
| ducasse | usb3, a wd passport ultra. | 12:42 |
| BluesKaj | ok, even nicer :-) | 12:42 |
| ducasse | just wiped it and put a filesystem on it, was thinking of using it for backups of /home. | 12:44 |
| BluesKaj | the small format size are handy. much lighter and less bulky | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | yup, I have the same on my outboard, just in case | 12:46 |
| ducasse | yes, it's nice and small. handy format if i need to take it with me. | 12:50 |
| immu | hi all | 17:18 |
| immu | ducasse: hi BluesKaj | 17:19 |
| EriC^^ | hi immu | 17:19 |
| ducasse | \o | 17:19 |
| EriC^^ | how are you? | 17:19 |
| immu | hi EriC^^ i am good how are you all | 17:19 |
| EriC^^ | i'm good | 17:20 |
| * ducasse is p***ed off! | 17:20 | |
| ducasse | ;) | 17:20 |
| EriC^^ | haha, why? :D | 17:20 |
| ducasse | nvm :) | 17:20 |
| EriC^^ | ok :) | 17:21 |
| immu | hi EriC^^ i am good and how do you express in that manner ducasse | 17:21 |
| ducasse | immu: it was just a joke :) | 17:21 |
| ducasse | hence the ;) | 17:22 |
| EriC^^ | where are you from immu ? | 17:22 |
| immu | from India, currently residing in UAE | 17:22 |
| EriC^^ | aha cool | 17:22 |
| immu | you all, ducasse BluesKaj EriC^^' | 17:23 |
| EriC^^ | immu: i'm from lebanon | 17:23 |
| immu | ducasse: yeah i got the joke, but in IRC how do you express in such style like you did | 17:23 |
| immu | oke cool place | 17:23 |
| immu | so whats happening , any fancy news? | 17:26 |
| immu | i removed unity eight from my system | 17:27 |
| Oerheks | Yay, i am not pregnant :-D | 17:27 |
| ducasse | oO | 17:27 |
| ducasse | Oerheks: congrats? | 17:27 |
| Oerheks | ( if i was, i would be the 1st man on earth, no?) | 17:27 |
| immu | Oerheks: if you are she, then its understandable | 17:28 |
| EriC^^ | stewie got pregnant in an episode of family guy | 17:28 |
| EriC^^ | it didnt look very fun | 17:28 |
| immu | creepy | 17:29 |
| Oerheks | Well i am 49 years old, and not wearing a diaper like stewie.. | 17:30 |
| immu | hmm | 17:31 |
| ducasse | Oerheks: otoh you have the benefit of being a living human being. the wrong kind of human being for that to work, but still ;) | 17:34 |
| Oerheks | immu, i am living in the Netherlands, btw | 17:37 |
| immu | thats also a nice place | 17:39 |
| Oerheks | One of the few members here, it has been a long time ago i met the others.. | 17:41 |
| immu | met any one physically | 17:41 |
| ducasse | i'm in norway, and we actually have nice weather today | 17:41 |
| Oerheks | immu, not one of these bunch here .. | 17:42 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: how are the fish, btw? | 17:45 |
| * Oerheks eating a bowl of yoghurt with proper music > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC-8P5Rgdbw | 17:54 | |
| * Bashing-om still in the morning coffee stage ( as I was real late arising !) | 17:59 | |
| immu | hmm | 18:07 |
| baizon | hmm | 18:13 |
| ducasse | mmh? | 18:13 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse: i flushed them down the toilet a while ago | 18:17 |
| ducasse | ah :) | 18:18 |
| Mr_0 | ducasse, 0/ <- Norway here too | 18:27 |
| * Mr_0 needs to make some food bbl , but "hi" anyway :) | 18:29 | |
| immu | good nite all | 20:13 |
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