[12:39] <darkxst> jbicha, I think I will try to get to GUADEC
[12:46] <jarth> Hello, i'm using multiple users on GDM for login. Now i notice these are left exposed on tty... How can i make sure to have only a single tty for GDM so on switch user i don't have to worry about a session being exposed on another tty ?
[12:46] <jbicha> darkxst: good! are you going to submit a talk proposal this weekend? (deadline is Monday)
[12:48] <darkxst> jbicha, yes, will work on that tomorrow
[13:04] <darkxst> jbicha, who is hggdh
[13:04] <hggdh> darkxst: I am
[13:05] <jbicha> lol
[13:05] <hggdh> :-)
[13:05] <darkxst> hggdh, who?
[13:05] <hggdh> darkxst: please be more specific. What do you want to know?
[13:06] <darkxst> hggdh, I didnt realise we had a retarded dragonEyes clone in the channel
[13:07] <hggdh> darkxst: I am not sure what is going on, but please be aware that being offensive will not help clear the issue
[13:10] <darkxst> why do I feel you a human trying to be a bot ?
[13:11] <jbicha> no, he's definitely real
[13:12] <hggdh> darkxst: I am guessing your problem is that I got opped up here. Am I correct?
[13:14] <darkxst> hggdh, you could atleast introduce yourself
[13:15] <hggdh> darkxst: I can, and I will. You could also have asked me directly
[13:16] <hggdh> darkxst: I am a member of the IRCC. I went +o in another channel, and Freenode decided unilaterally to +o me here
[13:22] <hggdh> darkxst: I *guessed* getting +o here was the problem after finding you are an op here.
[13:29] <darkxst> hggdh, common courtesy might suggest that you atleast introduce yourself to the team, and you know perhaps mention why you are here?
[13:31] <darkxst> it is a little alarming when a random person suddenly +ops on our channel
[13:33] <darkxst> hggdh, anyway welcome to the channe
[13:35] <hggdh> darkxst: thank you. But, to be frank, I have been here (and with *buntu(, I guess, longer than you. I did *NOT* want to +o here -- again freenode did it for me.
[13:37] <hggdh> darkxst: and this whole mis-understanding could have been avoided if you had just directly asked me
[13:51] <darkxst> hggdh, no need to speculate about my history with *buntu and linux in general. It probably goes back way further than you can imagine
[13:52] <darkxst> hggdh, I did ask you directly
[13:52] <darkxst> only just after I asked jbicha and he laughed
[13:53] <jbicha> I apologize if I made things any worse
[13:54] <jbicha> I didn't know what the issue was when the question was asked
[13:59] <hggdh> neither did I. Al well. for the record, I intend to change the IRCC flags from +O to +o in a few
[14:00] <hggdh> (which means I will op up again)
[14:00] <hggdh> (this will happen as soon as I get the IRCC to OK it)
[14:02] <jbicha> oh, so that was went wrong!
[14:02] <hggdh> yep
[14:02] <jbicha> *what went wrong
[14:02] <hggdh> I will go thru all channels, as time allows, and make the same chan where necessary
[14:03] <jbicha> currently, anyone on the Ubuntu IRC Council would be automatically opped when they join this channel, right?
[14:03] <hggdh> jbicha: correct
[14:03] <hggdh> or if they are already in the channel
[14:04] <jbicha> it looks like that was set when this channel was first established years ago
[14:06] <hggdh> I think so. And it is (now clearly obviously) confusing for local ops when somebody they do not know from Adam suddenly +o
[14:07] <hggdh> and -- again guessing -- this is probably going on on many other channels
[14:15] <darkxst> anyway I need sleep, good night all!
[14:15] <jbicha> good night
[16:29] <hggdh> csaccess
[17:43] <hggdh> jbicha: just a question -- on 17.04 I cannot change the touchpad to left-handed (again). bug 1586657 talked about it, and the need for a new xserver lib
[17:43] <hggdh> this lib is installed, apparently, now by default.
[17:44] <hggdh> do you have any idea on what gives?
[17:54] <jbicha> hggdh: you don't have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed, do you?
[17:55] <jbicha> (you don't want it to be installed for GNOME to work correctly)
[18:48] <hggdh> jbicha: oh, so the problem is now backward -- if I have the lib installed, it will mess with Gnome...
[18:52] <hggdh> uninstalled, rebooted, no still primary button is right.
[19:10] <jbicha> hggdh: it worked on my computer, I just changed the Primary Button switch in Settings>Mouse & Touchpad
[19:10] <jbicha> default is Left so I switched it Right (and then switched it back after because it's hard for me to use my touchpad that way!)
[19:13] <hggdh> letme try again
[19:14] <jbicha> are you on native hardware or in a VM? because VMs might do weird stuff
[19:20] <hggdh> native, but I have UNity, KDE, and Gome installed here. I am now wondering if there is a conflict
[19:31] <jbicha> and you have xserver-xorg-input-libinput installed, right?
[19:31] <hggdh> jbicha: not anymore
[19:31] <hggdh> itwas installed
[19:32] <jbicha> you need -libinput installed and -synaptics not installed
[19:34] <hggdh> oh, I had completely forgotten synaptics... rebooting
[19:36] <hggdh> yes, that was it. just removing synaptics made it work
[19:36] <hggdh> thank you, sir
[19:36] <hggdh> I now have my beloved right click as primary :-)
[19:37] <jbicha> hggdh: I added a Release Note for Ubuntu GNOME for LP: #1683016
[19:38] <jbicha> I'm not sure "Fix Released" is the right status, but I don't think the issue is fixable for 17.04
[19:40] <hggdh> jbicha: I think it is as good as we can get at the moment. synaptics will need to get dropped from xserver-input-all
[19:41] <hggdh> perhaps we should open a bug on that?
[19:42] <hggdh> IDK, I do not deal with xserver, mostly
[19:43] <jbicha> hggdh: yes we can do that in Ubuntu, could you file the bug and add the tag gnome-17.10 ?
[19:43] <hggdh> aye, on it
[19:52] <hggdh> bug 1685542 submitted
[22:54] <Guest87426> hello i just installed gnome on ubuntu 17.04 and i cant find a way to use horizontal scrolling
[22:57] <Guest87426> in unity works out of the box
[22:58] <Guest87426> also there is no "horiz-scroll-enabled" key in dconf