[05:48] <EriC^^> morning all
[06:12] <ducasse> good morning!
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-17-10-artful-aardvark-hits-the-streets-on-october-19-with-gnome-3-26-515060.shtml
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/small-tweak-makes-firefox-linux-run-much-faster
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> lets c if that speeds up things
[07:19] <baizon> hi lotuspsychje
[07:19] <baizon> hmm i had it enabled once
[07:19] <baizon> firefox 4x
[07:19] <baizon> thing went bad then :D
[07:19] <baizon> crashes and "black window"
[07:20] <baizon> well lets try it out again :D
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> baizon: still on kde now?
[07:21] <baizon> lotuspsychje: wont leave kde
[07:21] <baizon> manjaro it is for me :)
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> ahar
[07:22] <baizon> tried arch, but had to configure to much
[07:22] <baizon> manjaro is like ubuntu, but build on arch
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> baizon: does it use something like apt to install stuff?
[07:23] <baizon> lotuspsychje: its using pacman
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> cool
[07:23] <baizon> but there is a nice "software-center"
[07:24] <baizon> its called octopi
[07:24] <baizon> it also has a nice gui for installing kernels :)
[07:24] <baizon> https://wiki.manjaro.org/images/thumb/5/5b/Msm-kernels.jpg/375px-Msm-kernels.jpg
[07:25] <baizon> for "ppa" it has yaourt
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> baizon: so kde feels more light on manjaro?
[07:25] <baizon> it doesnt feel light, it feels awesome :D
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:25] <baizon> havent had 1 problem :)
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> lemme check main site
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> looks windows-friendly
[07:26] <baizon> https://manjaro.org/
[07:26] <baizon> you can customize it :)
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> well im gonna stick to ubuntu for its ease...but ill think it tru what flavor..
[07:27] <baizon> :)
[07:27] <baizon> i tried kubuntu, but it was terrible
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[07:28] <baizon> lotuspsychje: you can try neon.kde.org (based on Ubuntu LTS)
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> wanna stay on official flavor
[07:29] <baizon> ok :)
[07:29] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: probably a wise move :)
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> first ill install 17.10 alpha2 and bug out gnome extremly
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> whatever issue ill hit, ill bug lol
[07:31] <baizon> hehe
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> i just like the way ubuntu does its repos, and packages cant leave that
[07:31] <baizon> i just cant handle gnome
[07:31] <baizon> for me it makes such bad user experience
[07:31] <ducasse> gnome is horrid :-/
[07:31] <baizon> its like they're trying to make tablet ui work on desktop
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> its true..but perhaps it can change with alot of new bad user experiences?
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> a disformed enlightment lol
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> yeah thats just hows it feel like
[07:33] <baizon> gnome should be like budgie or elementary
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> but they say unity will still be supported officialy in repos too
[07:33] <baizon> they will, until ubuntu will stick with X11 (not Wayland)
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> didnt test budgie yet, but that looks nice
[07:34] <baizon> it like "unity 8"
[07:35] <baizon> it's*
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> its a weird situation
[07:35] <baizon> indeed it it
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> dont you thinbk its ironic, they wann ditch unity for gnome to have less work..but once users will get bad experiences on ubuntu desktop, they will have so many bugs to solve
[07:38] <baizon> cant tell
[07:38] <baizon> ill wait until 17.10
[07:38] <baizon> when people have to switch from unity to gnome
[07:38] <baizon> i think more people will switch to derivatives
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> possibly yeah
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> such a bad move
[07:39] <ducasse> well, they don't have to switch to gnome, they just have to switch.
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> forced switch
[07:39] <baizon> yeah, and thats why i switch now :)
[07:39] <baizon> with ryzen i need a 4.10 kernel, but kde on 17.04 is bad, so another distribution it was for me
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> laterz guys, working
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:56] <immu> BluesKaj: ducasse EriC^^ hi all
[14:07] <immu> hi
[14:09] <BluesKaj> hi im
[14:09] <BluesKaj> immu:
[14:29] <immu> what are the harms of installing Kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu-Uniy 17.04
[14:36] <EriC^^> hey immu
[14:46] <immu> EriC^^:  what is the harm of installing KDE on Ubuntu?
[14:47] <EriC^^> immu: not much, you might need to do a little tweaking of the notifications and stuff so they match
[14:48] <immu> what do you prefer? KDE or Gnome?>
[14:48] <EriC^^> other than that if you ever want to remove kde it wont be easy to remove the programs
[14:48] <EriC^^> neither, i like unity
[14:48] <immu> like me :)
[14:48] <immu> so is installing gnome a safer bet
[14:48] <EriC^^> :)
[14:51] <BluesKaj> desktop environments are clothing, everyone has their favourite colours and styles
[14:51] <BluesKaj> like clothing actually
[14:56] <immu> BluesKaj: true, its just about that itch
[15:06] <immu> BluesKaj: how long have your being a KDE guy on kubuntu?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> about 12 yrs
[15:07] <immu> EriC^^: what are your plans once Unity is replaced with Gnome?
[15:07] <EriC^^> immu: i'll probably keep using it and use the community improved one maybe
[15:08] <EriC^^> i didnt like gnome or any of the rest that much, im a unity man
[15:08] <EriC^^> xchat got killed in 16.04 i'm using it still though, probably ill do the same for unity once its nto maintained
[15:08] <EriC^^> immu: what about you?
[15:09] <immu> wow, BluesKaj thats a very good commitment
[15:12] <BluesKaj> well, it's probly because I used windows 3.1  and '95 at work, so KDE looked familair and comfortable to me after discovering it , gnome at the time was too cartooney for me
[15:12] <immu> what is the level of integration of Kubuntu with Ubuntu base?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> the DEs are different , but their apps will run on each other's DE's
[15:14] <BluesKaj> quite a desktop freindly situation
[15:15] <BluesKaj> friendly even
[15:16] <BluesKaj> I'm not afraid to mix and match, if one DE's app works better than the default I'll install the one that works
[15:17] <BluesKaj> for example I prer gparted to kde equivalent
[15:17] <BluesKaj> prefer
[15:18] <BluesKaj> hmm, better check the battery in this KB
[15:22] <immu> brb
[15:22] <BluesKaj> strange how one battery of 2 is much lower in power than the other after using both in the same device
[15:23] <BluesKaj> one is at 50% while the other is at 70
[15:23] <BluesKaj> poor QC
[18:10] <immu> did any one miss me?
[18:12] <Bashing-om> immu: Nope, not yet . to be missed one has to make signficant contributoins :)
[18:12] <immu> Bashing-om: like?
[18:13] <Bashing-om> Oh .. say what we do here and now .. and what transpires in main .
[18:14] <immu> oke
[18:14] <immu> BluesKaj:  do u think kubuntu is the best KDE distro out there?
[18:17] <Bashing-om> Meanwhile - back on the forum - still slow .
[18:20] <ducasse> Bashing-om: it's sunday, *everything* is slow today :)
[18:22] <immu> brb
[18:57] <immu> BluesKaj: is no one sharing, kubuntu torrent?
[18:59] <BluesKaj> immu, what do you mean sharing kubuntu torrent?
[18:59] <immu> i am downloading kubuntu via torrent, and no one is sharing
[19:03] <BluesKaj> there are other methods, via http, zsync,
[19:04] <immu> i am downloading via http
[19:04] <BluesKaj> so maybe no one is seeding atm
[19:05] <immu> yeah ,saadf
[19:05] <immu> *.saad
[19:12] <ducasse> it's well seeded here, where did you get the .torrent?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> hes using http now , he says
[19:16] <ducasse> yes, i was just curious, so i tried downloading the torrent here...
[19:26] <immu> ducasse:  from kubuntu offical torrent link
[19:38] <BluesKaj> well, calling it a day ..other stuff to do now ...later
[19:41] <immu> see u on the other side mate
[21:21] <immu> how di amigos ducasse
[21:23] <immu> how do i make the fonts look good in kubunut like i see in Ubuntu?
[21:23] <daftykins> this is not a support channel, go try #kubuntu
[21:29] <immu> everyone is sleeping their :)
[21:30] <daftykins> *there - sorry it doesn't change the rules here as per the topic, no support
[21:30] <daftykins> try the main #ubuntu also
[21:33] <immu> ok