[00:15] <mingo> exit
[00:15] <mingo> quit
[00:15] <mingo> q
[00:15] <mingo> exit
[00:37] <flush> how do i change theme ?
[00:40] <peepsalot> do package names always use lowercase letters?
[00:41] <yeats> peepsalot: yes, sometimes separated by dashes
[00:43] <Sparrow_> How to find packages in terminal.  https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1753
[00:44] <theToolman> Sparrow_: apt-cache search <package>
[00:45] <Sparrow_> Not knowing the exact name of a package can have people scratching heads
[00:45] <theToolman> if you know whats in it, you can search it with the keyword
[00:45] <theToolman> ex: named comes with bind9
[00:45] <theToolman> apt-cache search named will tell you that
[00:46] <theToolman> wow cool i just made my own irc server!
[00:46] <theToolman> never thought i needed one though
[01:17] <shaun__> herro
[01:17] <shaun__> my namea borat
[01:17] <theToolman> konichiwa
[01:18] <shaun__> mac4life
[01:18] <shaun__> jk
[01:18] <theToolman> i love my macs
[01:18] <shaun__> linux is pretty cool
[01:18] <theToolman> that it is
[01:18] <shaun__> linux + mac == god
[01:19] <theToolman> mary jane = god
[01:19] <shaun__> i don't do that stuff
[01:19] <shaun__> not since...
[01:19] <shaun__> the accident
[01:19] <theToolman> sucks to be you
[01:19] <kk4ewt> shame you have to pay so much for broadcom hardware
[01:19] <theToolman> #capitalism
[01:20] <kk4ewt> no Apple
[01:20] <theToolman> oh yeah
[01:20] <theToolman> but their implementation is what makes it worth the high price
[01:20] <shaun__> yeah their laptops are pretty nice
[01:20] <theToolman> at least with the 2010-2013 macbook pros
[01:20] <shaun__> i would never get a desktop from them though
[01:21] <theToolman> nahhh
[01:21] <theToolman> i have servers and high performace desktops
[01:21] <theToolman> i wish apple would fix their xquartz
[01:21] <theToolman> then i'd be extremely happy with my mbp
[01:22] <shaun__> until then, virtual box gets the job done
[01:22] <theToolman> yes it does
[01:23] <theToolman> withc seamless mode, i have my 16.04 with terminator as an overlay
[01:23] <theToolman> and that really does good for my x forwarding
[01:24] <theToolman> i need more monitors
[01:24] <theToolman> 4 isn't enought
[01:35] <Overwhelmed> Hey guys I'm going a little crazy over here, anyone think they could lend me a hand with some advanced amd gpu setup?
[01:37] <kampret> hello
[01:38] <Overwhelmed> Hi
[01:40] <kampret> what is discussed here,  ??
[01:40] <krytarik> Overwhelmed: You might want to share any details to incite involvement.
[01:41] <bazhang> ubuntu support kampret
[01:46] <Overwhelmed> ok how would I go about manually changing from the amdgpu driver the kernal is loading to amdgpu-pro that my rx 480 8gb tells me I'm supposed to be running?
[01:47] <Overwhelmed> Whats really annoying is sometimes I see the hardware/drivers in lshw and lspci but not always both or either
[01:48] <Overwhelmed> This is a custom project, using a toshiba A505 mobo, with the gpu hooked up through the mpcie port via adapter
[01:57] <mncedisi> hi
[01:57] <mncedisi> everyone
[01:57] <mncedisi> anyone here
[01:57] <grantwu> Yes
[01:58] <mncedisi> @grantwu how are u
[01:58] <grantwu> I'
[01:58] <grantwu> I'm... alright
[01:58] <bazhang> mncedisi, ubuntu support issue?
[01:58] <grantwu> This is a support channel, not a general discussion channel
[02:00] <LoRez> given http://paste.ubuntu.com/24437704/  and in /etc/udev/rules.d/99-local.rules -> SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTR{idVendor}=="0403", ATTR{idProduct}=="6001", SYMLINK+="goodfet_$attr{serial}"
[02:00] <LoRez> Why does udev refuse to do the thing?
[02:00] <kampret> what a channel for.discussion ???
[02:00] <mncedisi> given is in here
[02:00] <mncedisi> lol
[02:01] <bazhang> !ot | kampret mncedisi
[02:02] <mncedisi> @bazhang yeah tryna install anydesk.deb on ubuntu 14.04 buggy
[02:02] <bazhang> mncedisi, where did you get that deb
[02:02] <mncedisi> anydesk
[02:02] <mncedisi> google.com
[02:02] <bazhang> mncedisi, give us a link as to where
[02:03] <mncedisi> let me see ok
[02:03] <bazhang> mncedisi, so it's a third party deb from the web, not the ubuntu software sources
[02:03] <mncedisi> https://anydesk.com/download
[02:04] <jerichowasahoax> I looked at /etc/login.defs to change LOGIN_STRING and a comment told me I was looking in the wrong file. Where should I look instead?
[02:04] <bazhang> mncedisi, then contact them for support
[02:05] <YankDownUnder> "Anydesk" - basically, yet another "remote desktop" package. Ah. Yersh.
[02:05] <mncedisi> ok
[02:05] <mncedisi> dpkg -i anydesk.deb
[02:05] <mncedisi> is ok but cant connect to remote desktop
[02:06] <bazhang> mncedisi, then use the ubuntu supported packages
[02:06] <bazhang> mncedisi, if you want that 3rd party one, contact the makers for support
[02:07] <mncedisi> ok
[02:38] <xcyclist> So, I arrived home Friday night to find my sound did not work on my desktop Ubuntu.  I have now purchased three replacement speaker sets and they all don't work, but when I unplug speaker, I get sound directly from the box (not adequate quality of course).  What gives?
[02:39] <xcyclist> Is my sound aspect on the mother board now gone?  Did you guys deliver a bad device driver in a recent update?
[02:41] <xcyclist> (sorry, not "you guys" of course, but Canonical)
[02:41] <xcyclist> I have tried the green jack on  both the front and the back of the box.  Both worked before.
[02:42] <grantwu> You get sound directly from the box?  What does that mean?
[02:45] <xcyclist> When I unplug the speakers, the tower echos the sound, presumably from it's beep speaker.
[02:45] <xcyclist> It has the quality of a mouse sized richard little with a cough.
[02:47] <xcyclist> Sorry, Rich Little.
[02:47] <xcyclist> but also the cough.
[02:48] <grantwu> I've never heard of the PC speaker doing that o.O
[02:48] <grantwu> This sounds like a dumb question, but are you sure that somebody hasn't... plugged in another output device
[02:50] <xcyclist> No, it's more likely I have three bad speaker sets.
[02:50] <ledeni> xcyclist, try  'alsamixer; in terminal to see it is mute speakers
[02:51] <w9qbj> xcyclist: Have  you checked power, and cables on the speaker. And the speaker volume control?  Try tapping on the tip of the speaker's plug - do you get any sound - humm ?
[02:51] <xcyclist> No I can mute and unmute speakers test with the beep speakerin the box, which again, works.
[02:54] <Jordan_U> xcyclist: Test if you can use your speakers from an Ubuntu liveUSB.
[02:55] <Bashing-om> xcyclist: ninja'd ^^ !
[02:56] <xcyclist> Got it.  Thanks guys.  It WAS power and I AM tired.  You really helped me out and I'm glad I'm not this dumb on my day job.
[02:57] <w9qbj> Basic touble shooting - start at the most probable failure!
[02:57] <io_elephant> I trying to chmod permissions on a file (chmod o-w) and chmod executes without errors, but does change permission. i am using sudo. after doing strace i found this message "effective uid is not 0, is /usr/", 133 effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the "nosuid" option set or an NFS file system without root privileges?  <-- this seems to say that sudo is somehow not working,
[02:58] <io_elephant> but it works perfect in any other situation
[02:58] <xcyclist> Good night.
[02:59] <Ben64> io_elephant: you mean "doesn't change" ?
[03:00] <io_elephant> yes, sorry
[03:00] <Ben64> which file
[03:01] <Jordan_U> io_elephant: What is the exact command you're running? What is the output of "ls -l /path/to/file" before and after running chmod? What filesystem is this file on?
[03:01] <io_elephant> just a regular openoffice file
[03:02] <io_elephant> the exact command is: sudo chmod o-w myfile.odt
[03:03] <io_elephant> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25430 Sep 6 2016 myfile.odt
[03:03] <io_elephant> after running command same exact output of "ls -l "
[03:05] <Ben64> io_elephant: please put the output of the following commands into http://paste.ubuntu.com and give the link here. mount; sudo whoami; ls -l `which sudo`
[03:05] <Jordan_U> io_elephant: And what filesystem is this file stored on?
[03:05] <io_elephant> mount for that folder is: /dev/sdb on /home/myuser/data type fuseblk (rw, relatime, user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[03:06] <Ben64> oh
[03:06] <io_elephant> its a mounted usb
[03:07] <Ben64> still doesn't answer the filesystem question
[03:07] <Ben64> seems likely that it doesn't support permissions
[03:08] <Jordan_U> io_elephant: So most likely ntfs or exfat which have different permissions schemes than GNU/Linux. (Though I would expect this particular problem more froexfat than ntfs).
[03:09] <io_elephant> whats the command to see filesystem type?
[03:09] <Jordan_U> s/froexfat/from exfat/
[03:09] <Jordan_U> io_elephant: sudo blkid
[03:09] <io_elephant> ntfs
[03:10] <io_elephant> wow wtf.. lol
[03:10] <io_elephant> why did i format it as ntfs??
[03:10] <balleyne> My living room computer which is basically always along dropped into failsafe graphics mode a few days ago, and I'm lost trying to troubleshoot it
[03:10] <balleyne> always on*
[03:10] <io_elephant> i guess probably because i need windows to real from this drive
[03:11] <Jordan_U> io_elephant: Also, in the future, it's best to write filesystems to partitions rather than writing them to the whole drive.
[03:11] <banalize7> Hi, I want to retrieve a wifi password that is stored in the memory of my machine. I don't remember the wifi password but my computer does because it logs into the network automatically every time I am in range. How do I retrieve it?
[03:11] <PipeItToDevNull> banalize7, networkmanager will display it, just edit the connection
[03:11] <io_elephant> Jordan_U: even if i am going to need only one partition?
[03:12] <Jordan_U> banalize7: Use the Gnome Keyring manager, "seahorse".
[03:12] <raub> Question about the supervisor package: I have a program that seems to expect a /etc/supervisord.conf.d directory, but when I looked at http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/all/supervisor/filelist I do not see it being listed. Am I missing something?
[03:13] <Jordan_U> io_elephant: Yes. Having a partition table protects your data, allows you more flexability if you want to ever add more partitions in the future, and allows you to make a more reliable BIOS based boot if you ever want the drive to be bootable.
[03:13] <banalize7> PipeItToDevNull, hmmm... just edit the connection? what do you mean?
[03:13] <Bashing-om> balleyne: What does ' sudo lshw -C ' say about a graphic's driver ?
[03:14] <banalize7> Jordan_U, is this built into the Default Ubuntu?
[03:14] <Jordan_U> io_elephant: There is zero performance decrease from having a partition table, and I doubt you'll ever notice the 1 MiB of data you're not able to use for the filesystem.
[03:14] <Bashing-om> balleyne: make that ' sudo lshw -C display ' :)
[03:14] <PipeItToDevNull> banalize7, If I right click the applet > Edit Connections > Edit > Wifi Security > Tick box to show password
[03:15] <Jordan_U> banalize7: Yes.
[03:15] <banalize7> Thank you
[03:15] <banalize7> Both
[03:15] <banalize7> That helps
[03:15] <balleyne> Bashing-om, "product: Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics" and below "configuration: driver=i915 latency=0"
[03:16] <io_elephant> Jordan_U: yeah you are right, it makes sense
[03:16] <balleyne> Bashing-om, weird this is that there was no hardware change (unless something failed), it'd be working fine for months...
[03:16] <io_elephant> Jordan_U: so is NTFS my only option if i want to use the same fs on windows and linux?
[03:18] <io_elephant> basically i boot up windows in VirtualBox and share a folder from this mounted usb
[03:18] <Bashing-om> balleyne: updates broke a proprietary driver ? = presently we just do not know . could be LOT's of things . no driver is likely .
[03:21] <balleyne> Bashing-om, any idea how I figure out what driver I'm supposed to be using? `lspci | grep VGA` gives "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09)" and I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling xserver-xorg-video-intel with no luck, but I'm not even sure if that's the right driver...
[03:22] <balleyne> actually, looks like it's supposed to be a free driver: https://h-node.org/videocards/view/en/1616/Intel-Corporation-Broadwell-U-Integrated-Graphics--rev-09-
[03:23] <Bashing-om> balleyne: Intel's driver is included in the kernel .. best left for 96% of the use cases . And no, I have no Intel experience . sorry .
[03:25] <balleyne> Bashing-om, thanks anyways :)
[03:26] <ouroumov_> balleyne, if you run "inxi -G" does it says driver used is "modesetting"?
[03:31] <Bashing-om> balleyne: :) I have no Intel sustems so can not relate well .
[03:32] <balleyne> ouroumov_, balleyne@terry:~$ inxi -G
[03:32] <balleyne> Graphics:  Card: Intel Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics
[03:32] <balleyne>            Display Server: N/A drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) tty size: 140x36 Advanced Data: N/A out of X
[03:43] <ouroumov_> balleyne, can you run: modprobe i915
[03:43] <semitones> hey what's the screen shortcut to make a new window? ctrl-a something?
[03:48] <krytarik> semitones: Its manpage tells me Ctrl+a → c (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/en/man1/screen.1.html#contenttoc5)
[03:48] <semitones> thanks that's the one! I should man it next time
[03:53] <balleyne> ouroumov_, okay, ran the command, no output. Rebooted the machine. same problem, same `inxi -G` output =
[03:53] <balleyne> =\
[03:54] <selsper> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2359140 still trying to get this fixxed, no idea what the issue is :(
[04:10] <tuxpr> Hi all!
[04:12] <CyberTex> Hello internet, I'm trying to set a shortcut to Alt+Shift in Ubuntu 17.04, but it ain't registering it.
[04:13] <CyberTex> Can I edit that manually using gedit or somethin?
[04:21] <demo> hi
[04:21] <demo> can i install android studio on ubuntu mate ??
[04:37] <ubuntuappman> Is it okay to ask app development questions here?
[05:04] <semitones> so tcpdump...
[05:04] <semitones> if iptables was blocking stuff, would tcpdump show that as a packet dropped by kernel?
[05:16] <kbob> semitones: no, tcpdump stand before the firewall but you can read the firewall log
[05:16] <semitones> thanks kbob!
[05:17] <kbob> yw
[05:18] <omenius> I'm looking for a way to backup my os+users. Is there a solution to make (installable and why not live) .iso including all files, but only taking the space that the files need instead of the size of the whole filesystem (90% empty)?
[05:19] <omenius> I tried with tool called PinguyBuilder, but it does not like to copy my files because of the .ISO image would be huge
[05:27] <Zenn> hi guys is it recommended for a windows user to switch over to Ubuntu.
[05:28] <mattpalermo> Generally I think it is a pretty friendly choice. What do you use your computer for?
[05:28] <Jordan_U> Zenn: That depends entirely on the user, what they use the computer for, etc.
[05:28] <Zenn> movies, programming in java (IntelliJ), chatting, surffing the net, music
[05:29] <mattpalermo> Zenn: I think you'll be able to do all of that. I will take some adjusting, but you will get used to it. You may also come to appreciate some things, like the package manager.
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Zenn: Those all sound like things that should go relatively well in Ubuntu. Playing copy protected BlueRay disks in Linux can be difficult sometimes though.
[05:30] <Zenn> lol I mostly watch it on youtube
[05:30] <mattpalermo> Since youtube moved to HTML5 video, Youtube works perfectly.
[05:30] <Zenn> I dont play any disks on my system that is so old school
[05:31] <Zenn> Im sick of Windows tbh, my worries is virus and spyware and crap
[05:32] <Jordan_U> Zenn: I would recommend that you give it a spin and see how you like it. You can try Ubuntu without even installing it. When you do install for the first time, it's almost certainly a good idea to dual boot (so that you can choose to either boot Ubuntu or Windows) so that while you're learning Ubuntu you can fall back to Windows if needed.
[05:32] <Zenn> I dont need windows tbh, most of the stuff I do on Windows can be done on Ubuntu I guess.
[05:33] <mattpalermo> Dual boot is a good idea. It does no harm and can be really helpful when someone asks you to do some horible task that requires windows.
[05:34] <Jordan_U> Zenn: Still, you should start with a dual boot. When you're sure that you are comfortable being Ubuntu only you can erase Windows later.
[05:34] <Zenn> but I have shit tons of things to back up over windows
[05:34] <Zenn> photos most of the times.
[05:35] <mattpalermo> Zenn: They should probably be already backed up multiple times. Consider grabbing a few 1TB harddrives and just backing up your precious photos.
[05:36] <Zenn> I really sick of Windows, I keep reformatting it for months already
[05:36] <Zenn> it is horrible man, went to the net yesterday it got infected with spyware.
[05:37] <mattpalermo> Zenn: I feel your pain :) ... but I don't understand how people get viruses and spyware... you must be downloading some dodgy shit :P
[05:37] <Zenn> tbh I never did. call it luck.
[05:38] <Zenn> believe or not Im a computer programmer so I know my way around
[05:39] <Zenn> 8gb and god knows what is eatting the machine up.
[05:39] <edbordin> Does anyone know how develop a kernel patch without having to recompile the entire thing after every small change I make? I'm trying to test a patch for someone and it didn't work first shot, so I'm trying to be helpful and do some basic diagnostics myself with print statements.
[05:43] <mattpalermo> edbordin: I think generally you have to recompile the files that you changed. A system like Make should be smart enough to only recompile the bits that you changed.
[05:43] <mattpalermo> Sorry I meant, should be smart enough to only recompile to *files* that you changed.
[05:44] <mattpalermo> the*
[05:45] <edbordin> mattpalermo: that was what I figured too, but after making a change and running the same build command I'm not seeing my log messages appearing. Currently waiting for a full rebuild to see if it was a build issue or if this bit of code doesn't execute
[06:16] <alkisg> Hi, the anbox.io site says to execute `snap install --classic anbox-installer && anbox-installer`. I'm doing so in my 16.04 box and it says "anbox-installer: snap not found". How do snaps work, am I supposed to run something like `snap update` to fetch the newer package metadata?
[06:18] <ducasse> alkisg: there is a systemd service that does that from time to time
[06:18] <alkisg> ducasse: any ideas about why it says "snap not found" then? Maybe anbox.io assumes I'm running 17.04 or something?
[06:18] <alkisg> Or am I supposed to run something like `snap-add-repository`?
[06:19] <ducasse> alkisg: does 'snap find .' list any other snaps?
[06:19] <alkisg> 101 snaps
[06:20] <ducasse> alkisg: what about 'snap find anbox'
[06:20] <alkisg> The search "anbox" returned 0 snaps
[06:20] <alkisg> (Using Ubuntu MATE 16.04.2, btw - and ty :))
[06:21] <alkisg> Is there something similar to packages.ubuntu.com for snaps? Where I can see them online?
[06:21] <ducasse> alkisg: ok, then i'm not sure, it finds it here. the snap index should be the same no matter which version you're on
[06:21] <alkisg> Thanks, let me try in a VM...
[06:22] <ducasse> alkisg: there is a service called snapd-refresh, try restarting that
[06:22] <alkisg> (also, I'm on i386, maybe they publish it only for amd64?)
[06:22] <ducasse> ah, that might be a clue, yes.
[06:22] <alkisg> ducasse: I don't have snapd-refresh
[06:23] <alkisg> What's the exact command or package that provides it?
[06:23] <ducasse> snapd.refresh, sorry
[06:23] <alkisg> Command not found...
[06:24] <alkisg> And no suggestions to install a package for it
[06:24] <ducasse> sudo systemctl restart snapd.refresh
[06:24] <alkisg> OK I have it in a 64bit VM
[06:24] <alkisg> (It's a Unity VM; but I'll be able to compare packages etc to pinpoint the issue)
[06:24] <alkisg> Thank you!
[06:25] <alkisg> (snap find anbox there, actually finds it...)
[06:26] <ducasse> np, but the 32-bit thing is probably the explanation. if you restart the refresh service like above, just give it a few minutes to update so you know you're working with a fresh list.
[06:28] <ducasse> alkisg: btw you can search for snaps here: https://uappexplorer.com/
[06:29] <alkisg> ducasse: thanks, but it doesn't list anbox there...
[06:29] <alkisg> Whoops my bad
[06:29] <alkisg> Didn't see that the default search was for phones
[06:29] <plagueos> jello
[06:29] <ducasse> alkisg: it does, but not for i386
[06:29] <alkisg> https://uappexplorer.com/app/anbox-installer.morphis => Architectures: amd64
[06:29] <alkisg> Yeah
[06:29] <ducasse> sooo... :-/
[06:30] <alkisg> Eh, I'll install it in a 64bit VM :D
[06:30] <alkisg> ...which runs inside my i386 box :P
[06:31] <alkisg> It's fun though that installing a snap is "easy", and then it has a second, user-mode installer which adds PPAs and modifies files in /etc... :D
[06:32] <mattpalermo> alkisg: Does that even work? Running a 64bit VM on a i386 box...?
[06:32] <alkisg> mattpalermo: yes with vbox, no with qemu
[06:33] <mattpalermo> alkisg: I suppose vbox must support architecture emulation.
[06:33] <alkisg> mattpalermo: of course, the cpu is 64bit; it's just the OS that's 32bit
[06:34] <alkisg> The speed feels native, it's not emulated code
[06:34] <mattpalermo> That's cool.
[06:35] <ducasse> alkisg: why run a 32-bit os on a 64-bit cpu, if you don't mind me asking?
[06:35] <mattpalermo> Perhaps trying to wring out performance for something like the jvm?
[06:36] <alkisg> ducasse: I'm using LTSP very extensively, which means that I have a template desktop server, and I can netboot any number of clients using the same image/installation that the server has. So, in order to be able to netboot p4 I need i386 on the template server as well
[06:36] <alkisg> E.g. schools maintain one computer only, and then netboot the whole computer lab from it
[06:37] <ducasse> right. sounds sane enough :)
[06:42] <auronandace> I seem to be disconnecting and reconnecting to irc every hour or so, this only started happening since I fresh installed 17.04. What might be the possible causes? I'm running weechat 1.7 from the repos. It appears to be due to high lag.
[06:43] <mattpalermo> Have you tried varying certain parts of your system? Perhaps trying a different IRC client?
[06:45] <auronandace> mattpalermo: thanks for the suggestion, I'll try out another client. Anything else comes to mind if the client isn't the cause?
[06:46] <mattpalermo> Look into your 'high lag' problem. Is your network connection ok?
[06:50] <auronandace> mattpalermo: has anything changed network related between 16.10 and 17.04? I never got any problems on 16.10 and my connection has always been stable.
[06:51] <alkisg> auronandace, you can also check syslog if it has "ifup/ifdown" messages (link is up, link is down etc)
[06:53] <mattpalermo> auronandace: I am not sure of the specifics but I assume things have changed. I have experienced a kernel regression that seems to be specific to my wifi adapter (it would drop out every 30 minutes if the router was using 802.11n).
[06:54] <mattpalermo> Sorry, "kernel regression" is an assumption. I'm still waiting for confirmation on the bug report.
[06:56] <auronandace> alkisg: thanks for the tip. It appears my wifi is scanning quite often. I'm using the ethernet connection though. Perhaps it is trying to connect to another network and overriding my ethernet connection temporarily
[07:00] <LibertyWeNeed> I have a ThinkPad T460 running 16.04 LTS. The graphics are flickering. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:04] <Cryru> Heey guys, can anyone help me find "Software & Updates" on Ubuntu 16.10?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a package to scan dia's with a diascanner, any hints?
[07:13] <senaps> hi, sudo systemctl disable apache2 gives me insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `apache2' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
[07:15] <senaps> hi, sudo systemctl disable apache2 gives me insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `apache2' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
[07:21] <scotty^> I was wondering why Ubuntu's libnss3 version no longer matches the one listed on the Mozilla security advisory site at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2017-10/ ?
[07:23] <cyrano> Are there any good screen recorders in Ubuntu?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam | cyrano
[07:26] <ducasse> scotty^: ubuntu backports security fixes from later versions
[07:26] <juwonlona> hi everyone pls i want to use irc n thunderbird but i cant view any existing channels
[07:27] <scotty^> ducasse: Thanks.  I thought so, but why isn't there any mention of that in the changelog?
[07:27] <auronandace> juwonlona: you seemed to have joined here for 4 seconds from thunderbird
[07:28] <ducasse> scotty^: no idea
[07:31] <juwonlona> auronandace: wow, really!? pls is there an helpful guide to using irc
[07:31] <auronandace> juwonlona: /join #freenode
[07:32] <auronandace> juwonlona: the staff at #freenode can help you with irc usage
[07:32] <scotty^> on the subject of IRC, how do I get polari to display the list of nicknames in the channel I am in?
[07:35] <juwonlona> auronanda: thank you very much
[07:35] <auronandace> juwonlona: no problem
[07:36] <trudko> hi everyone, anyone having a problem where audio output is not automatically switch when headphones are plugged in / unplugged?  This has been happening to me at least from 14.04
[07:36] <trudko> right now I am on 16.04
[07:40] <kbob> scotty^: I don't know polari but try /n
[07:46] <lastleo> Hello.. I am unable to control fans on Mac in Ubuntu 16.04 is there any GUI app or I have to work out via Terminal? Please help me
[07:46] <Hearme> Hi, is this working?
[07:48] <lastleo> Hello.. I am unable to control fans on Mac in Ubuntu 16.04 is there any GUI app or I have to work out via Terminal? Please help me
[07:49] <llewe> You Need to install Macfantld http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man1/macfanctld.1.html
[07:51] <lastleo> Thanks llewe
[07:51] <llewe> n.p
[07:59] <LibertyWeNeed> I have a ThinkPad T460 running 16.04 LTS. The graphics are flickering. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:59] <lastleo> I am on Mac and tried installing macfanctld but some error
[08:00] <lastleo> Job for i8kmon.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status i8kmon.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. invoke-rc.d: initscript i8kmon, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing package i8kutils (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  i8kutils E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error
[08:01] <lastleo> Please help me
[08:01] <Zenn> LibertyWeNeed, what gfx card do you use?
[08:02] <lastleo> I am on Mac and tried installing macfanctld but some error Job for i8kmon.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status i8kmon.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. invoke-rc.d: initscript i8kmon, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing package i8kutils (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processin
[08:02] <lastleo> llewe
[08:03] <llewe> what mac do you have , also try sudo apt-get install i8kutils
[08:03] <LibertyWeNeed> Zenn, Intel HD Graphics 520
[08:03] <Zenn> probably get the latest gfx
[08:03] <FManTropyx> hey
[08:04] <LibertyWeNeed> Zenn, can you please elaborate?
[08:05] <lastleo> llewe MacbookPro 2012 Retina
[08:05] <lastleo> llewe I tried but it shows erroe
[08:07] <lastleo> llewe Setting up i8kutils (1.41) ... Job for i8kmon.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status i8kmon.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. invoke-rc.d: initscript i8kmon, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing package i8kutils (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  i8kutils E: Sub-pr
[08:07] <lastleo> llewe this is the error on terminal
[08:08] <llewe> lastleo check this link out and see if it help http://installion.co.uk/ubuntu/xenial/universe/m/macfanctld/install/index.html, i really dont no why u getting that error try doing a sudo apt-get update
[08:09] <lastleo> llewe ok
[08:10] <llewe> lastleo u need to remove sudo apt-get autoremove i8kutils coz thats for dell laptops only
[08:11] <lastleo> llewe ok
[08:14] <llewe> lastleo gtg if u  still  need help send me a message on my youtube channel google  (llewe reviews)
[08:14] <ikonia> or just ask the channel
[08:14] <ikonia> rather than advertising youtube channels
[08:14] <lastleo> llewe cool
[08:18] <LibertyWeNeed> Zenn, Can you please elaborate what you mean?
[08:19] <ikonia> zenn has left the channel
[08:24] <didact> ok, I lost power and everything seemed normal, I restarted, and tried to login to ubuntu 16.04 and it'sjust at the GUI
[08:25] <jemark> didact: can you do Alt+F1 ?
[08:25] <jemark> didact: I mean Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:25] <ikonia> what doe "at the gui" mean
[08:26] <TTN> hi all, I've just bought a wifi pcie card that I have just installed into my new ryzen computer. It is supposed to be well supported by linux (8265NGW chipset) (card is gigabyte GC-WB867D-I). It is not working or showing up under lspci. I'm confused as to what to check next. I've googled all I can for answers but I'm stuck.
[08:26] <ikonia> TTN: pastebin the output of lspci please
[08:27] <TTN> I've also reseated the card, and also tried setting the pcie gen in the bios to: auto, gen 1, gen 2, gen 3, same results, no go or show on lspci.
[08:27] <TTN> ikonia: sure.
[08:27] <LibertyWeNeed> ikonia, ok. are you able to help me then?
[08:28] <ikonia> LibertyWeNeed: just ask the channel
[08:28] <LibertyWeNeed> I have a ThinkPad T460 running 16.04 LTS. The graphics are flickering. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[08:28] <LibertyWeNeed> The graphics card is Intel HD Graphics 520
[08:29] <ikonia> LibertyWeNeed: i am on a t460s right now, no problem at all
[08:29] <lastleo> llewe u thr?
[08:29] <didact> I restarted and the gui came up at log on
[08:29] <ikonia> diskin: do you mean the login gui
[08:29] <blouf> hi, 17.04 is out, is there major issue like wifi, shared folder encountred or is it clean ?
[08:29] <TTN> ikonia: https://pastebin.com/e9XK9wur sorry took a few moments to get on irc on my other pc.
[08:29] <ikonia> oops
[08:30] <didact> idk what the cntrl alt f7 screen means
[08:30] <didact> is that the gui logon screen ?
[08:31] <TAFB> can someone help me make an rsync loop that keeps a directory fully updated?
[08:32] <TTN> TAFB: make a shell script to do the sync. Then add it as a cron job.
[08:32] <TTN> each of those has excellent guides on google as to how to do it. I'd have to read it up myself to explain more xD
[08:32] <TAFB> the remote directory will keep having files added (HLS chuncks) and updating the index.m3u8 of course, but don't want it to re-download all the existing .ts chuncks
[08:33] <TAFB> can't use watch?
[08:34] <TTN> watch would work well too. Actually thats probably better.
[08:34] <TTN> ikonia: any ideas or leads perhaps? \
[08:42] <TAFB> you good with rsync? how do I save the password?
[08:44] <ikonia> TTN: sorry, I had to step away for a moment
[08:45] <TTN> :-) no worries
[08:45] <ikonia> TTN: so you have a realtek wired ethernet and an intel wired ethernet in the machine ?
[08:45] <TTN> I do know I have realtek wired ethernet. There is only one ethernet adapter (motherboard one)
[08:45] <TTN> perhaps the intel one is the wifi adapter then?
[08:46] <ikonia> TTN: yes, I suspect this is the case that the gigabyte card is just a rebadged intel
[08:46] <ikonia> which would explain why you think it's very well supported as the intel cards are
[08:46] <TTN> right..
[08:47] <TTN> so thats just the ethernet showing up. Still no sign of the wifi card I guess?
[08:47] <TTN> I'm starting to wonder if I got a DOA wifi card, or perhaps its a ryzen/bios issue
[08:48] <ikonia> no sign where ?
[08:48] <ikonia> where are you looking ?
[08:48] <TTN> lspci output.
[08:48] <ikonia> TTN: ??? you've just said that the intel card is probably the wifi
[08:48] <TTN> I did, but you said that the realtek one is probably an intel one relabled as realtek, so I thought both are the ethernet one
[08:49] <ikonia> no I didn't
[08:49] <ikonia> I said the realtek one is your intel card
[08:49] <ikonia> and the gigabyte wifi you said you bought is probably just a rebadged intel
[08:50] <TTN> I see.
[08:50] <TTN> gotcha
[08:51] <wludi> Hi Where I can speak about installin' issue?
[08:52] <TTN> brb
[08:58] <ikonia> wludi: just ask the question
[08:58] <wludi>  I tried install a ubuntu but after whole process of installation my cpu stuck on x[sec] I run installation with nomodeset, but it's stuck. I tried install version16.04, and 17.04. I have Laptop Inspiron 7559 with dual disc (ssd and hdd)
[08:59] <ikonia> your cpu stuck
[08:59] <ikonia> how do you know your cpu is stick
[08:59] <wludi> how can i solve this issue?
[08:59] <ikonia> how do you know your cpu is stuck
[09:00] <wludi> after installation when present "remove installation disc" and whole process of installation go to shut down there is a information "cpu0 stuck"
[09:00] <darkey> ikonia elky good idea but not for me k-line glined in my bg network to data base sam ok but i am hear :)
[09:00] <ikonia> darkey: nothing to do with me
[09:02] <demo> heeeeelp ... want to install virtualbox 4.3 in ubuntu 17.04
[09:02] <ikonia> demo: just use the virtualbox package provided by ubuntu and it does it all for you
[09:05] <demo> i dont want to install 5.18
[09:05] <FManTropyx> I am having a problem
[09:05] <demo> i downloaded the 4.3.38 deb file
[09:05] <ikonia> demo: don't do that
[09:05] <ikonia> demo: use the version that ubuntu ships and support
[09:06] <LibertyWeNeed> demo, do you have synaptic installed?
[09:06] <demo> yes i have
[09:06] <ikonia> synaptic is pretty obsolete
[09:06] <woodlandassociat> if you want to really use the older deb file just install it using gdebi
[09:06] <lamerche> elky {}
[09:06] <ikonia> demo: open the package manager, search for virtual box and use the package that ubuntu provides and supports
[09:06] <demo> i want 4.3.38 for a reason ..
[09:07] <ikonia> demo: what reason
[09:07] <LibertyWeNeed> demo, have you run "sudo dpkg -i (drag the deb file here)" ?
[09:07] <demo> no
[09:07] <LibertyWeNeed> demo, then check if there are any broken packages in the synaptic package manager
[09:07] <ikonia> demo: what is the reason you need that specific version
[09:07] <ikonia> LibertyWeNeed: please stop helping - you're giving bad info
[09:08] <demo> Eror. Dependency is not satisfiable: libpng12-0(>=1.2.13-4)
[09:08] <ikonia> demo: why do you want to use that specific version
[09:08] <ikonia> demo: why do you not want to use the version ubuntu ships and supports
[09:08] <demo> i want to boot into mac os in virtualbox
[09:08] <FManTropyx> the manual page for gettimeofday indicates definition in time.h, but it does not seem to be and furthermore, the timezone structure is not defined in it, so where could I find it?
[09:09] <ikonia> demo: use the version ubuntu ships then
[09:09] <ikonia> demo: but be aware of the license around using mac OS in a VM
[09:09] <FManTropyx> I guess I could just copy them from the man page
[09:09] <LibertyWeNeed> ikonia, I am not. Just helping them get the older version working.
[09:09] <ikonia> LibertyWeNeed: no you are not
[09:09] <demo> virtualbox 5.18 gives error
[09:09] <ikonia> demo: ok - so talking to the vbox support guys can help you work through that
[09:09] <FManTropyx> "please stop helping" :D
[09:09] <ikonia> demo: the answer is to fix the problem, not try to make more problems
[09:10] <demo> LibertyWeNeed, will installing older package break my computer ?
[09:10] <ikonia> demo: it will cause you package conflicts as the packages you need will not be available from the ubuntu repos
[09:11] <LibertyWeNeed> demo, it won't break your computer.
[09:11] <ikonia> LibertyWeNeed: please stop
[09:11] <ikonia> LibertyWeNeed: you are giving bad information
[09:12] <demo> LibertyWeNeed, how can i install libpng12-0 ??
[09:13] <ikonia> demo: work through the problem with the version that ubuntu ships,
[09:21] <TAFB> sometimes when running rsync it sits on "receiving incremental file list" forever, is there a way I can make a timeout for getting the file list?
[09:21] <ikonia> no
[09:21] <ikonia> as it will take all the time it needs to build a delta list
[09:22] <TAFB> but if I ctrl-c it and run the command again it gets the file list instantly
[09:22] <TAFB> so it's getting a timeout or something but just sitting there
[09:23] <ikonia> TAFB: probably the remote server being slow
[09:23] <TAFB> yep, under very heavy load
[09:23] <TAFB> but I need this bullet proof :(
[09:23] <ikonia> right....
[09:23] <TAFB> "if file list not received in 5 seconds kill and restart"
[09:23] <TAFB> or something
[09:23] <ikonia> TAFB: use the --timeout option
[09:24] <TAFB> sweet, I'll give it a go
[09:24] <scotty^> firefox 53
[09:24] <ikonia> TAFB: maybe try "man rsync"
[09:25] <ikonia> get the details and understand what that setting does
[09:26] <TAFB> hmmm,  rsync --timeout=5 -as -P 'root@ doesn't seem to fix the receiving incremental file list problem, maybe it's just trickling down the data or something :(
[09:28] <blackflow> TAFB: is that over ssh?
[09:28] <ikonia> TAFB: did you read what it does
[09:28] <TAFB> i think so
[09:28] <ikonia> ok - what do you think it does
[09:33] <TTN> ok, so more research: The card is detected. Its simply not working atm with 14.04. 16.04 doesn't support it but 16.10 does out of the box.
[09:34] <inflex> Any way to get the 4.10.12 kernel for 17.04 already?  4.10.0-19 is giving me hell
[09:39] <scotty^> inflex: you can get that kernel from the mainline kernel ppa at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[09:40] <scotty^> Instructions on how to install and uninstall it are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[09:40] <TTN> now, the question is how to backport the feature into 14.04 xD I don't really want to go to 16.10 :P
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> is 16.10 still supported, even?
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> ok, it is... sounds like you found a !bug, then
[09:44] <FManTropyx> sure
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> it isnt*
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> i'm confused
[09:45] <FManTropyx> "Standard Ubuntu releases are supported for 9 months"
[09:45] <FManTropyx> so, until July
[09:46] <FManTropyx> here is a nice graph: https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life (scroll down a bit)
[09:47] <faugusztin> FManTropyx: that or wikipedia table https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Releases
[09:48] <faugusztin> FManTropyx: or even better, for all releases ever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_version_history#Version_timeline :P
[09:48] <faugusztin> with a nice blue line marking "now" :P
[09:49] <FManTropyx> now I am starting to feel that I am being mocked
[09:49] <faugusztin> mocked ? no
[09:50] <FManTropyx> Wikipedia has lots of nice diagrams :)
[09:51] <faugusztin> btw, while i am here - is there a good guide how to build custom kernel modules on a secure boot enabled system ? sadly on my ASUS PRIME X370 PRO i am unable to disable secure boot, and it seems like i need to sign it with my own keys and put them in UEFI key storage somehow ?
[09:52] <inflex> thankyou scotty^ that's the link I was looking for (had used it before)
[09:53] <FManTropyx> I have have 2 packages (0.3%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded!!!
[09:54] <FManTropyx> I have an unsupported package 'eatmydata'
[09:56] <FManTropyx> hmm, why does ubuntu-support-status tell me that, for example 'bsdgames' in not supported?
[09:57] <FManTropyx> "You have 769 packages (25.2%) that are unsupported"
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> FManTropyx  there's also    vrms (virtual richard m stallman)
[10:00] <FManTropyx> ehh...
[10:01] <FManTropyx> lol
[10:02] <bazhang> !info bsdgames | FManTropyx
[10:02] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu is this FManTropyx
[10:02] <FManTropyx> yeah, it is weird that is shows as "unsupported" for me
[10:03] <FManTropyx> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[10:03] <bazhang> FManTropyx, have you done apt update and apt upgrade since the initial install
[10:04] <cfhowlett> !ping
[10:04] <FManTropyx> several times
[10:04] <bazhang> FManTropyx, what does apt-cache search bsdgames show
[10:04] <FManTropyx> I dunno, but show bsdgames displayed it fine
[10:05] <bazhang> FManTropyx, give us a pastebin of uname -a   lsb_release -a and your sources.list to ubuntu pastebin
[10:05] <bazhang> !paste | FManTropyx
[10:07] <FManTropyx> interestingly, I get same results on both of my Ubuntu systems
[10:07] <bazhang> FManTropyx, we need that pastebin
[10:07] <FManTropyx> why?
[10:08] <bazhang> FManTropyx, to troubleshoot, it's a very regular step
[10:08] <FManTropyx> I'll get back to you on that... where is the source list?
[10:08] <bazhang>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[10:12] <cfhowlett> dbugger, greetings.  ask your ubuntu question.
[10:12] <dbugger> cfhowlett, my question changed as I was typing it :) now im not even sure it belongs in this channel..
[10:13] <root> hello
[10:13] <cfhowlett> dbugger, ask away if ubuntu support.
[10:13] <cfhowlett> root, greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[10:13] <dbugger> cfhowlett, I will do, when I can phrase it properly. thanks!
[10:14] <Guest27113> i am a new to all this i am using WSL ON WINDOWS 10
[10:15] <Guest27113> HOW DO I use the gui apps
[10:15] <bazhang> !ubuwin | Guest27113
[10:15] <faugusztin> Guest27113: and short answer is - you do not (AFAIK)
[10:16] <hmz365> Why does the kernel have to add a parameter CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y, and why can't you force deletion of the modules that are already in use?
[10:16] <bazhang> #ubuntu-on-windows Guest27113 for that
[10:16] <cfhowlett> !ubuwin | Guest27113,
[10:19] <Herbalist> omg
[10:25] <FManTropyx> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24439722/
[10:26] <FManTropyx> how long is that paste valid? made with the pastebinit cmd
[10:26] <Herbalist> what could be a reason for Microsoft to do that ?
[10:27] <FManTropyx> are you the YouTube star?
[10:27] <inflex> Herbalist, to lure fresh linux developers over to the ecosystem of Windows
[10:27] <Herbalist> ahhhh very smart
[10:27] <Herbalist> sneaky even
[10:28] <inflex> it works; they figure that a lot of younger ppl will start with linux coding, but then get lured in by the nice IDEs and such, and then leave behind linux
[10:28] <bazhang> FManTropyx, whats the exact error you get when you apt install bsdgames
[10:28] <inflex> esp with the prevalence of arduino / AVR stuff being quite heavy on the linux dev focus side
[10:29] <bazhang> inflex, Herbalist #ubuntu-offtopic for this
[10:29] <Herbalist> hmm i hope they're wrong in that expectation
[10:29] <FManTropyx> I have installed it successfully some time ago
[10:29] <Herbalist> bazhang.. ok
[10:29] <inflex> tx np bazhang .  I'm back to work anyhow, tx for the kernel advice scotty^
[10:29] <bazhang> FManTropyx, what is the 'not supported ' from
[10:30] <FManTropyx> running the 'ubuntu-support-status'
[10:32] <Herbalist> alas .. i need to be registered in order to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:33] <rizono> Hello
[10:33] <rizono> when attempting this: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[10:33] <rizono> how should my `/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades` file look?
[10:54] <MrElendig> should run your own repo when using automatic updates, and only push packages to said repo after you have tested them
[10:55] <scotty^> wsl?
[10:56] <bazhang> ubuntu on windows scotty^
[10:57] <scotty^> np
[10:59] <scotty^> thanks
[11:29] <Safiyyah> Hi, I need help recovering a encrypted home drive, Yes I have the passcode, I am on Ubuntu MATE live USB
[11:30] <Safiyyah> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24439954/
[11:33] <ouroumov_> Safiyyah, try ecryptfs-recover-private /home/you/.Private
[11:34] <ouroumov_> Safiyyah, actually adapt the path since you're live booting
[11:35] <ActarusZX> what you guys think of Elementary Appcenter and making donations easier to opensource app contributors?
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> ActarusZX  elementary is not supported here
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> ActarusZX  and no polls here
[11:37] <cfhowlett> ActarusZX, elementary is not an ubuntu distro, not supported here.  do what you will and see elementary for support options
[11:38] <ActarusZX> Sure, sorry, I was asking for opinion
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !elementary | ActarusZX
[11:45] <rizonz> what is the best way to check the package name when you build your own deb using mh-perl-make ?
[11:46] <Safiyyah> ouroumov_, it was successful but when I opened the tmp file is just has the readme txt file and access your private data, so am still not in
[11:48] <Safiyyah> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24440035/
[11:50] <tomreyn> Safiyyah: so /tmp/ecryptfs.e8JVVUL3/ just contains the README file?
[11:51] <Safiyyah> yes
[11:52] <tomreyn> hmm i guess that's unexecpted. maybe run "ecryptfs-recover-private /tmp/ecryptfs.e8JVVUL3/" then
[11:52] <tomreyn> actually "ecryptfs-recover-private /tmp/ecryptfs.e8JVVUL3"
[11:54] <tomreyn> Safiyyah: which ubuntu release are you on, is it all patched?
[11:55] <Safiyyah> i am on ubuntu MAte live USB but the SSD is on Xubuntu
[11:55] <tomreyn> release versions?
[11:55] <Safiyyah> thgat last one from 2016
[11:55] <Safiyyah> let me find it
[11:56] <Safiyyah> i only do lts versions
[11:56] <tomreyn> sounds like this oooold bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1028532
[11:57] <dishantgupta> #python
[11:57] <Safiyyah> hmm
[11:57] <tomreyn> this bug also suggests that the "Success!" report can be incorrect, and you may have typed the wrong passphrase
[11:57] <dishantgupta> can i recover my old windows installation data
[11:58] <Safiyyah> shall intall ecryptfs utils are re-try
[11:58] <dishantgupta> after i have successfully installed ubuntu
[11:58] <dishantgupta> it has done the repartitioning
[11:58] <dishantgupta> of disks
[11:59] <tomreyn> dishantgupta: are you saying that after installing ubuntu side by side with windows, botting into windows is no lopnger possible?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> dishantgupta, possibly.
[11:59] <Safiyyah> actually it is already installed.... does this mean there is no solution to this bug?
[12:00] <tomreyn> dishantgupta: or are you asking how to access the data stored on windows / ntfs partitions from ubuntu?
[12:00] <dishantgupta> tomreyn: there's no dual booting, earlier i was using windows, and now i ahve installed ubuntu
[12:01] <dishantgupta> i think i missed the option to reconfigure the partitition and the setup has itself repartitioned everything into default partitions
[12:01] <dishantgupta> can i get my old windows data back ?
[12:01] <dishantgupta> recover
[12:01] <dishantgupta> *
[12:01] <cfhowlett> dishantgupta, but you backed up your data before installing ubuntu.  right?
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> dishantgupta  did you backup first?
[12:02] <dishantgupta> nope, no backup!
[12:02] <tomreyn> Safiyyah: the bug where it does not show an error message when you entered the wrong passphrase is fixed by ecryptfs-utils version 104-0ubuntu1, released on 2014-03-15
[12:02] <dishantgupta> it wouldn't be a problem if i had a backup, right!?
[12:03] <Safiyyah> tomreyn, I am on Xubuntu 16.04
[12:03] <Safiyyah> on the SSD
[12:04] <dishantgupta> tomreyn, cfhowlett, monkeydust!?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> dishantgupta  true, with a backup, you're safe
[12:05] <tomreyn> dishantgupta: based on what you toild us, the way you chose to install ubuntu will have ensured that your previous ntfs file systems were at least partially overwritten. you can seek the services of a data recovery service to attempt to recover any remaining data, if any.
[12:05] <cfhowlett> dishantgupta, you *might* be able to recover, but generally speaking, if data isn't important enough to backup, it's not important at all. return after your ubuntu completes installation and we'll see.
[12:06] <dishantgupta> thanks men!
[12:06] <dishantgupta> also, have you guys tried any data recovery service in the past
[12:06] <dishantgupta> that you can recommend
[12:07] <Safiyyah_> Q
[12:07] <tomreyn> not i, i try to have everything backed up (I also learnt from a previous mistake there).
[12:08] <dishantgupta> true. thanks tomreyn!
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> i have a separate /home *and* a backup
[12:08] <TTN> mmm ok so I need to get kernel v4.6 or higher on my system to get this wifi working
[12:09] <TTN> right now I'm on 14.04's stock kernel: 4.4
[12:09] <TTN> last time I installed a new kernel manually, it broke the nvidia drivers.
[12:11] <tomreyn> TTN: are you seeking assistence with anything, or just reporting on your progress of finding a solution to some issue? in the former case, please also ask a question and provide details.
[12:14] <TTN> ok :) thanks tomreyn. I'm seeking assistance in getting my intel 8265 wifi chipset to work. I've learned that my ubuntu's 14.04 kernel 4.4 does not support it, but kernel version 4.6 and higher (in ubuntu 16.10) does support it. Now the question is, how can I best upgrade the kernel? I would like to stay with 14.04 for compatability reasons with libraries that  I use. If I install a new kernel I am worried it may break the propietary driver for my gtx1060
[12:14] <TTN> (is using propietary 375.39 driver). How to best solve this problem is really what it boils down to..
[12:14] <TTN> how can I best upgrade to a newer kernel?
[12:15] <TTN> without breaking the nvidia proprietary driver?
[12:15] <tomreyn> i doubt you can have both
[12:15] <arunpyasi> Hello
[12:15] <arunpyasi> anyone around ?
[12:15] <arunpyasi> How can I reset unity configs via shell ??
[12:15] <tomreyn> TTN: you can, however, upgrade the kernel and install a newer version of the nvidia driver (and see whetehr that works then)
[12:16] <arunpyasi> The issue is, I have got my windows bars lost
[12:17] <TTN> tomreyn: would a newer version of the nvidia driver be required? Can the one from 'additional drivers' not be used?
[12:17] <tomreyn> arunpyasi: maybe these will help https://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration
[12:18] <TTN> I bought the card today. If it proves too tricky, I may return it ;P
[12:19] <arunpyasi> tomreyn, that gave me display stuffs error
[12:20] <zalabaslea> what card TTN?
[12:20] <tomreyn> TTN: i'm checking the web. so far i concur that intel 8265 wifi appaears to require at least kernel 4.6
[12:20] <tomreyn> ...based on https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi
[12:20] <TTN> GTX1060, 6GB version ;)
[12:21] <tomreyn> !hwe | TTN
[12:21] <laserbeak4445> hello
[12:21] <zalabaslea> yes you should check additional driver
[12:22] <Dinosaurio> Ubuntu is the OS I use whenever I want to know how poors that can't afford Windows feel.
[12:22] <tomreyn> TTN: that'S how you get a newer kernel version. now whether that will also allow you to use the proprietary nvidia drivers i do not know.
[12:22] <zalabaslea> he's on autorejoinonkick
[12:22] <Dinosaurio> No
[12:22] <Dinosaurio> I sent to the wrong channel
[12:22] <zalabaslea> ah :p well ok
[12:22] <ikonia> Dinosaurio: no you didn't
[12:22] <Dinosaurio> Yes I did
[12:23] <TTN> tomreyn: thanks! reading now :)
[12:23] <laserbeak4445> 2 icons (probably from adwaita) are missing in EasyTAG after upgrading to Ubuntu GNOME 17.04. Here's a screenshot of the missing icons: https://lut.im/DLJCr3zNzn/aIyfVZ4vSO9mhSbk.png
[12:24] <zalabaslea> TTN : i have a705A
[12:24] <laserbeak4445> Someone know how I could fix that?
[12:26] <TTN> tomreyn: I see, so based off that, I'm already on the 16.04's kernel 4.4. Thats the latest for it it seems (image from the link you sent): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Ubuntu+Kernel+Release+Schedule.svg
[12:26] <TTN> thats good, my ryzen requires the newer kernel. The ryzen cpu runs great on it :)
[12:29] <tomreyn> TTN: while i can't guarantee anything my suggestion is thatyou upgrade the system to ubuntu 16.04 and then install either linux-generic-hwe-16.04 or linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge
[12:30] <tomreyn> TTN: you can test this safely by installing ubuntu 16.04 to a usb stick and run it (and install the updated kernel images and nvidia drivers) from there.
[12:31] <prostako> ikonia and
[12:31] <prostako> :)
[12:31] <tomreyn> TTN: to clarify, i'm suggesting to make a complete test install of ubuntu 16.04.2 lts on the usb stick, not just to roll out an installer image there.
[12:33] <levak> ikonia
[12:33] <levak> dai pak
[12:33] <tomreyn> arunpyasi: "display stuffs error" is not exactly specific.
[12:33] <TTN> Good idea. Hopefully that works. The hwe ins 16.04 takes me right up to 16.10's kernels if I'm not mistaken?
[12:34] <tomreyn> TTN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack#hwe-16.04 and the following paragraph discuss what you'll get with these packages.
[12:36] <tomreyn> !info linux-generic-hwe-16.04
[12:36] <tomreyn> !info linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xenial
[12:37] <tomreyn> !info linux-image-generic yakkety
[12:38] <TTN> tomreyn: Perfect. Thank you!
[12:38] <tomreyn> so, yes, that's the same minor version
[12:38] <tomreyn> ...currectly
[12:38] <TTN> I've been staying with 14.04 since it is easier to get ai libraries/toolkits running on it generally
[12:39] <TTN> I'll try work with 16.04. Test first, see if it works, if it goes, wohee.
[12:39] <tomreyn> hmm i guess you could consider running those in a VM or container
[12:39] <TTN> I will get some sleep and test this tomorrow after work. Thanks for the help. Its not always easy getting it on such topics :)
[12:39] <TTN> Could do, but they need access to cuda cores
[12:39] <TTN> that can get a little tricky sometimes
[12:39] <tomreyn> oh ok
[12:40] <tomreyn> right, you don't want a virtualization layer then
[12:41] <tomreyn> good luck!
[12:41] <TTN> thanks loads, and goodnight! I'll let you know how it goes if you like.
[12:45] <tomreyn> TTN: good night, no need to notify me. about the results, but come back here if you seek more assistence.
[12:50] <auronandace> I'm running 17.04 and keep disconnecting and reconnecting to irc every few hows or so. My syslog shows a lot of these messages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24440303/ I'm using my ethernet connection: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06) with the r8169 module loaded. As my paste shows the ethernet is enp1s0. Any suggestions?
[12:50] <Murii> has anyone here managed to play Starcraft remastered using wine?
[12:51] <ikonia> Murii: try the #winehq channel
[12:52] <Murii> there are more people here so seems fair to ask here too
[12:52] <ikonia> #winehq is the right place
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:53] <EriC^^> hi BluesKaj
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hi EriC^^
[12:55] <tomreyn> auronandace: are you on a .local domain?
[12:56] <auronandace> tomreyn: sorry, not sure what that means. I have an ethernet switch that connects to my router
[12:57] <ioria> auronandace, what dns are you using ?
[12:57] <auronandace> ioria: whatever the default is in network config
[12:58] <tomreyn> auronandace: does the command 'dnsdomainname' (typed on a terminal) return anything?
[12:59] <ioria> auronandace, click on the Network icon -> Connection information
[12:59] <auronandace> tomreyn: nope, blank
[12:59] <ioria> auronandace, you should see 'Primary DNS'
[13:00] <auronandace> ioria: sorry, not running the nm-applet, I'll check now. I'm in i3 rather than the default unity
[13:00] <ioria> auronandace,  grep -i nameserver /var/log/syslog
[13:01] <auronandace> ioria: 192.168.0.1 for ipv4 and fd49:c3ce:7e6e:0:c23e:fff:fe2d:8100 for ipv6 from the connection information from the applet
[13:02] <auronandace> ioria: your grep command comes up blank
[13:02] <ioria> auronandace,  grep -i nameserver /var/log/syslog.1
[13:02] <anonymouscoward3> Both ldd and dpkg-debcheck say ls(part of coreutils) uses libpcre3...yet coreutils does not depend or recommend libpcre3 even as optional.  Why?
[13:02] <auronandace> Apr 22 15:44:00 SilentPC NetworkManager[791]: <info>  [1492872240.1231] dhcp4 (enp1s0):   nameserver '192.168.0.1'
[13:02] <auronandace> Apr 23 03:25:33 SilentPC NetworkManager[791]: <info>  [1492914333.8169] dhcp4 (enp1s0):   nameserver '192.168.0.1'
[13:03] <tomreyn> auronandace: does "host -t SOA local" report something other than "Host local not found: [..]"?
[13:03] <auronandace> tomreyn: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[13:04] <ioria> auronandace,  so dns set in the router, i guess
[13:05] <auronandace> ioria: would that affect my ethernet connection? I never had this problem with the exact same setup on 16.10
[13:05] <ioria> auronandace,  it'a connection problem or just the irc client ?
[13:06] <auronandace> ioria: just happens in irc. I've tried multiple clients and they all disconnect at the same time so I don't think the client is at fault
[13:06] <auronandace> sorry, got to pop out for a min. I'll be back soon.
[13:07] <ioria> me too, brb
[13:11] <packge> hello
[13:12] <packge> 有人么
[13:12] <packge> 这里是干什么的
[13:12] <packge> 有没有人在呢
[13:12] <packge> 人都干什么去了
[13:12] <packge> 知道么
[13:12] <tomreyn> !cn | packge
[13:12] <packge> oh
[13:12] <packge> speaking english?
[13:13] <packge> really?
[13:13] <tomreyn> if you speak english you can do so here
[13:13] <tomreyn> (as long as it is an ubuntu support question)
[13:14] <packge> where are you from ?
[13:19] <rubenochoa> hello. I want to ask. How can I print a date of a file with first names and last names and dates?
[13:19] <auronandace> back again
[13:21] <tomreyn> rubenochoa: post some lines of this file (or some lines you made us in the same format) to a pastebin
[13:21] <tomreyn> i meant to write "made uP"
[13:22] <rubenochoa> i want to choose for an example .project.sh --born-since <dateA> --born-until <dateB> -f <file> How Can i do it?
[13:26] <this_self> hi guys! Small question about gnome ubuntu 16.04.2. How I can install latest version of gnome on my ubuntu 16.04.2? When I used KDE I found kubuntu-blackports for install latest version of kde. How I can do it with Gnome? My prefer is use 16.04.* only because it mandatory for my development part (I'm backend developer). Thanks!
[13:31] <mcphail> this_self: ubuntu doesn't work like that. You don't get a supported way to install neswer versions of applications or frameworks without upgrading to a newer version of ubuntu. You can hunt for a GNOME PPA, but that would not be supported and may break your system
[13:31] <FreddyP> this_self,: check out http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/install-gnome-3-20-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[13:33] <this_self> Thanks guys!
[13:33] <this_self> As I read on last week about ubuntu will drop unity in future releases. Is it true?
[13:33] <FreddyP> yes
[13:33] <this_self> So Unity will die?
[13:34] <this_self> And instead it will be Gnome?
[13:34] <FreddyP> most linux blogs have reported as such
[13:34] <this_self> interesting.. Anybody here tried to use Budgie environment?
[13:34] <this_self> Seems it nice work I think.
[13:35] <rubenochoa> about my question?
[13:41] <doost> hi, i installed a third party application from a deb but now i want to uninstall it but it doesn't appear in the software center... how would i do it?
[13:44] <SimonNL> doost: maybe run install program again.
[13:45] <doost> SimonNL: i installed it with the software center
[13:46] <auronandace> I managed to catch it this time as it reconnected: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24440767/ Is that meant to happen often?
[13:46] <SimonNL> then maybe use software center again same as you did maybe it give an uninstall option.
[13:47] <tomreyn> doost: do you know what th epackage is called?
[13:47] <Mathisen> !logs
[13:48] <doost> the app is called fine tune (or finetune)... i installed musique and it suggested it. so i downloaded the deb and installed it using the software center but it isnt from a repos
[13:49] <doost> it doesnt show up in the software center when i search for it
[13:49] <LionOpeter> I am running my own IRC server and looking for the best IRC client to manange my server. My OS is ubuntu (maybe something like mirc for windows?) any suggestions?
[13:49] <tomreyn> doost: does this command (run in a terminal) list it? dpkg -l '*finetune*'
[13:50] <tomreyn> auronandace: your router tells your client that it is part of the .Home domain. unless that's on purpose you may want to reconfigure your router to not set / send a DNS domain as part of the DHCP
[13:51] <tomreyn> auronandace: also, unless you use / need mdns, uninstalling avahi-daemon may solve your issues.
[13:51] <tomreyn> work around rather
[13:53] <Mathisen> LionOpeter, hexchat
[13:53] <tomreyn> LionOpeter: personally i use hexchat and it works fine for me. it allows for sending custom commands and to script them, and that's all one might need as an ircop
[13:53] <tomreyn> irssi is another common choice (if you prefer a CLI)
[13:54] <auronandace> tomreyn: how would I know whether I need mdns? I'm guessing it is simply installed by default because I haven't altered any network settings
[13:54] <LionOpeter> ok so HexChat is admin (or at least oper) dedicated?
[13:55]  * LionOpeter is installing hexchat
[13:56] <tomreyn> auronandace: if you don't know what avahi / mdns is then you probably do not need it.
[13:56] <auronandace> tomreyn: good stuff, just the answer I was hoping for
[13:56] <auronandace> tomreyn: thanks, I'll give it a whirl
[13:57] <tomreyn> LionOpeter: no it is not.
[13:57] <adamsilver> What does this mean: chmod -R go=u,go-w . ?
[13:58] <LionOpeter> tomreyn: but i understand it allows all that an oper needs (?)
[13:59] <tomreyn> LionOpeter: yes, like pretty much all irc clients.
[13:59] <LionOpeter> it might be missing the charset i need: windows-1255
[14:00] <auronandace> tomreyn: would you advise a reboot after removing avahi-daemon?
[14:00] <tomreyn> LionOpeter: please consider carefully about running an irc server / network on the internet (if that's your plan) if you are not yet aware of such rather basic things.
[14:01] <tomreyn> auronandace: should not be necessary, but you may want to restart networking
[14:01] <auronandace> tomreyn: thanks for your help
[14:01] <LionOpeter> tomreyn: what basic thing?
[14:01] <tomreyn> auronandace: sudo service networking restart
[14:02] <tomreyn> LionOpeter: that you do not need a specific irc client to issue comands as an irc operator.
[14:02] <LionOpeter> i beg the differ. i know alot of webclients that do not allow full functionality
[14:03] <tomreyn> LionOpeter: i'm not saying this to insult you but to help safeguarding the internet and to save you a lot of headaches. running irc servers and networks on the internet is an invitation for trouble.
[14:04] <rizonz> is it possible to set arch=amd64 during preseed ?
[14:04] <tomreyn> the folks in #freenode may be able to provide more insight on this, as will the community of the irc server and services you have chosen to use.
[14:04] <LionOpeter> i understand. but i have done this in the past and it is not so bad as you describe it - from personal experience :)
[14:05] <andy555> This is paranormal. GRUB permanently disappears each time I go into bios settings or boot menu. How is this even possible?
[14:05] <andy555> Doesn't make any sense
[14:05] <andy555> I have to reinstall GRUB from a live cd every time
[14:05] <tomreyn> LionOpeter: if 'the past' is long ago, be advised that the Internet has changed (to be a lot more malicious) since the past.
[14:07] <LionOpeter> tomreyn: hmmm idk... what is "long ago" to you? i havn't done this something like 2-3 years
[14:08] <tomreyn> andy555: some mainboards / their firmware / BIOS / option ROM will manipulate boot sectors if specific options are set. sometimes this is caused by fakeraid options.
[14:09] <tomreyn> LionOpeter: i was more thinking in term sof 20 years there
[14:09] <tomreyn> or 30
[14:09] <andy555> tomreyn: what does it mean? How can I check it or fix it?
[14:09] <LionOpeter> 20 years is alot of time -.-
[14:09] <andy555> tomaw: This is paranormal
[14:10] <andy555> tomreyn: BTW I updated BIOS firmware couple weeks ago, before installing Ubuntu alongside Windows 10
[14:10] <tomreyn> tomaw: the above was meant to be addressed to me, i think.
[14:10] <andy555> tomreyn: yes
[14:10] <codepython777> has anyone here built a quad using KDE motors?
[14:10] <codepython777> sorry - wrong room
[14:10] <tomreyn> andy555: does it happen since you upgraded the firmware then?
[14:11] <andy555> tomreyn: no, before I had only windows 10. I installed ubuntu after that
[14:11] <andy555> tomreyn: and for the record, when grub disappears, windows 10 boots automatically
[14:12] <tomreyn> andy555: oh, this sounds more like you have something on windows which overwrites grub
[14:12] <andy555> tomreyn: But if I press F12 at start and go into the bios windows shouldn't be even be aware
[14:13] <andy555> tomreyn: the whole thing happen If I just go into bios settings (without changing anything) or opening boot menu with F12 ay start
[14:13] <andy555> tomreyn: it only takes that to make grub disappear and instead windows 10 load
[14:14] <tomreyn> andy555: i agree this sounds wrong, and i'm afraid i do not know how to fix it. it is probably specific to your mainboard firmware and its configuration.
[14:14] <andy555> tomreyn: permanently disappear, I have to reinstall grub from a live cd every time
[14:14] <andy555> tomreyn: I have a pastebin of boot-repair. Is there any information there that could help?
[14:16] <tomreyn> andy555: maybe, hard to tell without seeing it. but i'm probably not going to be able to help you out there.
[14:16] <andy555> tomreyn: http://paste2.org/k8pnIBI1
[14:17] <BluesKaj> andy555:  is this a uefi machine or a bios
[14:17] <BluesKaj> andy555:  check in nthe uefi bios which mode you're using, if it's legacy then you installed the OS in the uefi mode, if it's eufi then switch to legacy
[14:18] <andy555> blueking: Is UEFI, and both OS are installed in UEFI
[14:18] <andy555> BluesKaj: Is UEFI, and both OS are installed in UEFI
[14:19] <BluesKaj> then make sure you're noy in legacy mode, andy555
[14:19] <BluesKaj> not
[14:19] <andy555> BluesKaj: Dual boot works pretty well with GRUB, intill I go into BIOS and breaks...
[14:19] <andy555> BluesKaj: It is in UEFI, all settings look ok in bios
[14:20] <BluesKaj> andy555: ok, try legacy, just to be sure
[14:27] <tomreyn> the boot-repair / boot.info output looks as expected to me, except for the part where it states that it does not find grub
[14:28] <tomreyn> ...in /dev/sda
[14:30] <andy555> tomreyn: mbr isn't legacy?
[14:30] <andy555> tomreyn: In UEFI there is a dedicated partition for bootloader
[14:30] <andy555> tomreyn: is sda1 I think in mine
[14:34] <Redfoxmoon> Any plans to get the gtk3 menu bug fixed in 17.04, or workarounds?
[14:34] <php> Hi. Is #ubuntu-server usually dead, or is it just because it's Sunday? :P
[14:40] <williphant> Hello all.
[14:41] <php> williphant, hello! It's pretty quiet here right now
[14:41] <williphant> I can tell!
[14:41] <williphant> I've just switched over to ubuntu from macos
[14:41] <Redfoxmoon> :-)
[14:41] <williphant> so i thought i would come and say hello
[14:42] <php> Are server questions welcome here, or only in #ubuntu-server?
[14:42] <Redfoxmoon> php, why not just ask, maybe someone has an answer :)
[14:42] <php> Redfoxmoon, because some people get grumpy when you ask in the wrong place
[14:42] <fatalmojo> hey guys, so I have a couple domain names, and I just rented a vps, and I'm wondering, what would I need in order to set up a mail server?  I am looking into postfix but do I need anything else?
[14:42] <php> "Hey! One of my clients is having an issue with their server (Ubuntu 14.04). It boots but no longer accepts any SSH connections (Connection Refused)."
[14:42] <php> "We booted into their rescue OS (it's an OVH server, we used rescue-pro), mounted /dev/sda2 to /mnt, chrooted to that, then allowed port 22 via ufw. We also used update-rc.d to start SSH on boot."
[14:43] <php> "When we went back to the OS, SSH still wasn't accepting connections."
[14:43] <php> fatalmojo, incoming and outgoing, or one of them?
[14:43] <fatalmojo> php: both
[14:44] <Redfoxmoon> php, well I'd confirm the changes were actually saved
[14:44] <php> fatalmojo, dovecot & postfix maybe
[14:44] <fatalmojo> php: okay, thanks
[14:44] <php> Redfoxmoon, they were. Booting back into RescueOS confirms that
[14:44] <Redfoxmoon> php, o_O very strange
[14:45] <php> I somewhat want to just reinstall their server, but they're not completely happy with the thought of doing that even if they still have their data :P
[14:45] <Redfoxmoon> php, perhaps the ufw changes didn't go through to iptables?
[14:45] <php> Redfoxmoon, http://i.imgur.com/BkbRO73.png
[14:46] <Redfoxmoon> x_x ok I am stumped :(
[14:46] <php> If I disable iptables on boot, does that block all connections or allow all?
[14:47] <Redfoxmoon> I think it should allow all connections
[14:47] <Redfoxmoon> although don't quote me on it:-)
[14:48] <ruby32_> speaking of iptables, what is the favored way of persisting iptables settings on reboot?
[14:48] <php> Too bad, quoting you on it. Removing iptables from startup ;)
[14:50] <php> "it should allow all connections"
[14:50] <php> - Redfoxmoon, 2017
[14:50] <Redfoxmoon> :-)
[14:50] <php> Takes 10 minutes to reboot the server with Kimsufi
[14:50] <php> :(
[14:51] <Redfoxmoon> ruby32_, here I've just got a shell script with the rules running on boot, heh
[14:51] <ruby32_> Redfoxmoon, that seems like a simple and straightforward way to go, is it discouraged?
[14:51] <ruby32_> seems like it would work
[14:52] <Redfoxmoon> No clue if it's discouraged or not, but it works so I don't care :-)
[14:52] <php> ssh: connect to host xx.xxx.xxx.xx port 22: Connection refused
[14:52] <php> "it should allow all connections"
[14:52] <php> - Redfoxmoon, 2017
[14:53] <Redfoxmoon> :-) at least it does for owrt when iptables is disabled, heh
[14:53] <php> I'm almost 100% sure SSH isn't starting
[14:53] <Zalabaslea> systemctl start sshd
[14:54] <php> Zalabaslea, I'd love to run that command but I can't ssh in lololol
[14:58] <php> This is mind boggling
[14:59] <sparky> that you actually have the nick php?
[14:59] <php> sparky, yes
[15:00] <php> I'm popular in a lot of channels
[15:03] <redrabbit> ok
[15:09] <theoceaniscool> Small question, gparted reports that a filesystem does not fill a partition, but resize2fs says nothing to do!, Ideas?
[15:10] <theoceaniscool> I have tried to run Partition -> Check in Gparted, but it does not do anything
[15:12] <poco_> so I was redoing my rsync backups when I tried removing my home folder backup off my SMB share and I can't seem to delete the entire folder. Any idea what's going on? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24441379/
[15:13] <BlackFate> poco_, so subfolder seem to have the wrong user. try doing a chown -R poco ./poco and try again
[15:13] <BlackFate> some*
[15:14] <poco_> BlackFate, cool I'll try that
[15:14] <BlackFate> poco, (with sudo)
[15:14] <poco_> BlackFate, just got a bunch of permission denied responses
[15:15] <poco_> ran it as sudo
[15:15] <AppAraat> for people running 16.04, could you please run "play -n synth whitenoise gain -6" (it just outputs white noise, so you might want to turn down your speakers, also it requires sox to be installed)
[15:16] <AppAraat> I'm asking this because here it is erroring out and I wanted to see if other people had the same problem
[15:17] <poco_> BlackFate, chmod'ing it does the same
[15:17] <theoceaniscool> poco_, check with 'ls -la ./poco' who is the directory owner/group
[15:17] <BlackFate> poco_, maybe some weird smb permissions going on here. Is this is a windows share?
[15:18] <poco_> theoceaniscool, poco is the owner on everything
[15:18] <poco_> BlackFate, yes it is an SMB share on FreeNAS
[15:18] <theoceaniscool> poco_, and poco has r permissions?
[15:19] <poco_> theoceaniscool, looks like it https://paste.ubuntu.com/24441430/
[15:20] <theoceaniscool> AppAraat, 16.04 here, it does not give errors, but it does not output any sound either
[15:21] <AppAraat> great, that probably means Ubuntu's sound system has been messed up again.
[15:21] <Boreeas> Hi, I'm trying to get a steam game server running on 14.04. Installed steamcmd the manual way, but when I start the server I get "SteamAPI_Init() failed; Sys_LoadModule failed to load: /home/boreeas/.steam/sdk64/steamclient.so"
[15:22] <kbob> AppAraat: is speaker-test working properly?
[15:22] <Boreeas> Problem is, sdk64 is symlinked to the steamcmd install dir, but steamcmd only came with a linux32 folder, no linux64
[15:22] <Boreeas> anyone know where I can get the 64-bit version?
[15:22] <AppAraat> kbob: https://bpaste.net/show/1dc1e5c94f34
[15:23] <BlackFate> poco_, if you do a "cd ./poco/.steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/" and then "rm -rf lib", then does it work? Just trying to understand if the path depth plays a role here
[15:23] <poco_> one sec
[15:24] <kbob> AppAraat: pulseaudio is up?
[15:24] <AppAraat> kbob: pulseaudio --check results in success
[15:24] <poco_> BlackFate, "rm: cannot remove 'lib/i386-linux-gnu': Directory not empty"
[15:26] <JWM_TO> Looking for help after upgrade to 17.04.  My touchpad cannot be shut off.  I think it is being recognized as a mouse.  Anyone able to help?
[15:29] <MrVoltz> I have Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (with systemd 229) and I'm facing a bug in systemd. The bug was fixed in v231. What can I do about it?
[15:29] <MrVoltz> (link: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85255)
[15:30] <JWM_TO> Anyone good with touchpad issues?
[15:34] <EyaA> ubun
[15:34] <EyaA> tu
[15:34] <poco_> damn. I was hoping "sudo chattr -R noschg ./poco" would work
[15:35] <BluesKaj> jw so yo're using a mouse with your laptop, try input devices or it's equivalent on your DE and find the option to turn off the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in
[15:35] <BluesKaj> JWM_TO: ^
[15:37] <JWM_TO> BluesKaj thanks.  I'll let you know.
[15:38] <BluesKaj> JWM_TO:  ok good
[15:40] <JWM_TO> Blues_Kaj I've found a program called "Pointing Devices" that has such an option, but it doesn't actually work.  It's as if my touchpad is considered another mouse
[15:40] <j4ckcom> how can i install tor browser?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !tor | j4ckcom
[15:43] <bilb_ono> how do I find which key to use to boot from usb?
[15:43] <bilb_ono> f2 seems to be the bios
[15:43] <bilb_ono> I tried f12 but that didn’t work
[15:46] <stef204> hi, just installed lubuntu 17.10 and am having problems with the wifi card (Intel PRO/Wireless 1965 AG or IGN) , outgoing traffic just stops every few minutes. Starts again if I disconnect and connect. it is using the "proper" driver, I believe which is iwl4965, Have tried a number of hackish solutions, like https://askubuntu.com/questions/785799/internet-keeps-failing-despite-connected-wifi-on-16-04# and
[15:46] <stef204> others, but nothing changes this behavior.
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> stef204  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[15:47] <stef204> It is a deal breaker, for me. if I cannot resolve it
[15:47] <stef204> Ubuntu 17.04 \n \l
[15:47] <stef204> MonkeyDust: ^^
[15:50] <JWM_TO> bye for now
[15:51] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: it depends on your mainboard and its firmware the BIOS / UEFI. usually, if you know your mainboard model you can search the web and will find documentation explaining how to access its configuration.
[15:52] <bilb_ono> tomreyn: thanks. I may have to resort to that. I am considering just reformatting my computer. since installing nvidia drivers, it can’t launch x
[15:52] <BluesKaj> bilb_ono: check your uefi/bios and make sure usb boot is enabled and first in the boot sequence
[15:55] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Troubleshooting
[15:56] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: your mainboard product identifier should be returned by: sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[15:57] <sim642> Is xubuntu 14.04 still supported and upgradable or will I be thrown under the bus again for wanting to upgrade?
[15:57] <ikonia> sim642: still supported and upgradable
[15:58] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: alternatively try: sudo dmidecode -s baseboard-product-name
[15:58] <ikonia> I personally don't like the upgrade process, but it's possible
[15:58] <sim642> I don't like it either because there's a tendency for things to still go wrong
[15:59] <sim642> But it's somewhat easier for me than installing from scratch every now and then
[16:00] <tomreyn> sim642: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases lists EOL dates
[16:01] <tomreyn> sim642: 'hwe' stands for !hwe (type this here to get more info)
[16:02] <DJones> sim642: If its xubuntu 14.04, that has gone to  end of life, that was only a 3 year support life according to their webpage
[16:02] <sim642> Interesting, I found a EOL date for xubuntu on wikipedia and that differs from the ubuntu one
[16:02] <DJones> sim642: https://xubuntu.org/release/14-04/ EOL April 17, 2017
[16:03] <DJones> sim642: I'm not sure why, but the xubuntu LTS releases are only 3 years, not 5 like Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[16:03] <sim642> I guess I'm late to the party again, upgrading this
[16:05] <MrVoltz> Anyone can help with my systemd problem?
[16:07] <bilb_ono> tomreyn: so I see that its b150 pro gaming/aura. Google doesn’t show any results for the key to find boot from usb though
[16:08] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: look for "bios hotkey" or "boot menu" instead
[16:09] <faugusztin> bilb_ono on ASUS boards it is F8 i think. if unsure, press F2, then boot from the options there
[16:09] <bilb_ono> tomreyn: I can find the bios
[16:10] <bilb_ono> faugusztin: you were right! thanks
[16:10] <hosass> ioria: what's the best books to learn linux terminal ?
[16:11] <stef204> anyone on the wireless issue above?
[16:11] <hosass> ioria: it's would nice to be halve as good as you
[16:15] <BlackFate> poco_, do you have the ability to remove the folder directly from the freeNAS storage?
[16:17] <bilb_ono> arg i found it. but when I click “install ubuntu” the screen just goes black forever until I restart
[16:18] <faugusztin> bilb_ono: do you have an NVIDIA GPU ?
[16:18] <bilb_ono> faugusztin: yeah
[16:19] <faugusztin> bilb_ono: are you trying to boot the live dvd/usb ?
[16:19] <bilb_ono> faugusztin: yep
[16:19] <bilb_ono> to reinstall ubuntu
[16:19] <bilb_ono> im out of ideas, gonna start from scratch
[16:19] <faugusztin> bilb_ono: if yes, then press an arrow down key when the keyboard icon shows up at boot, then press the key of additional options, select the nomodeset option
[16:19] <faugusztin> that fixed it for my GT710
[16:20] <bilb_ono> ah I read about that!
[16:20] <bilb_ono> thanks. I can’t even get to the keyboard icon showing up unfortunately
[16:20] <faugusztin> bilb_ono: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA9Kw8jqaP8
[16:20] <blackflow> bilb_ono: depends on bios, and it's also possible the menu is disabled. enter the bios and find out.
[16:20] <blackflow> bilb_ono: oops, I was scrolled way up in the backlog, not sure that's relevant any more :)
[16:21] <bilb_ono> mine has those options, but its not purple, its black with white/grey text
[16:21] <bilb_ono> when I pick any of them, try ubuntu without installing for instance , the screen goes black until I restart
[16:22] <bilb_ono> are we sure 16.04 is the recommended easiest way to get ubuntu running?
[16:23] <bilb_ono> I feel like I didn’t have this many problems with older versions, I think 12
[16:23] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: 16.04.2 LTS, yes
[16:23] <tomreyn> make sure your downloaded ISO file is intact
[16:24] <bilb_ono> tomreyn: I did the checksum thing and its a valid copy. Also its a usb key Ive installed from before (thats where my current copy is from)
[16:24] <andrew987> Hello. I reinstalled GRUB with Boot-Repair. What are all these line that showed up on my boot list?? http://pasteboard.co/7OikLwr4K.png
[16:28] <safiyyah> nvidia drivers, do you still use them with a hdmi connection?
[16:28] <bilb_ono> is there a way to restore ubuntu to factory settings (erase all added files/drivers, etc) without a usb key?
[16:29] <safiyyah> bilb_ono, reinstall?
[16:31] <bilb_ono> OH MY GOD
[16:32] <bilb_ono> I think all my problems were just fixed when I plugged the hdmi into the graphics card instead of the motherboard
[16:32] <bilb_ono> its booting to an actual screen
[16:34] <Bashing-om> !yay | bilb_ono
[16:37] <plaguenet> jello
[16:37] <funkster> anyone know if I can have a webcam in portrait mode without physically rotating camera or is that specific to the hardware?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> funkster  or maybe to the webcam client you're using
[16:44] <bilb_ono> thanks :) I will remember to always use the video card port in the future. I thought it didn’t matter
[16:45] <andrew987> Hello. I reinstalled GRUB with Boot-Repair. What are all these line that showed up on my boot list?? http://pasteboard.co/7OikLwr4K.png
[16:48] <EriC^^> andrew987: that's something boot-repair added, you can remove it
[16:48] <vovova> how do I monitor my DNS requests? Some websites load normal for me, whereas others are taking forever, I suspect DNS is the issue
[16:48] <andrew987> EriC^^: Thank You Eric
[16:48] <EriC^^> andrew987: type "grep ^ /etc/grub.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:49] <andrew987> EriC^^: What is that?
[16:49] <EriC^^> andrew987: there's a file it adds in that dir i think
[16:49] <andrew987> EriC^^: type that in the terminal?
[16:49] <EriC^^> andrew987: it'll show the files and content and pastebin it and give  a link, yes
[16:50] <andrew987> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/utik
[16:52] <EriC^^> andrew987: they're coming from /etc/grub.d/33_custom_proxy and 35_custom_proxy
[16:53] <EriC^^> if you wanna disable them, type sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/{33,35}_custom_proxy
[16:53] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub
[16:53] <andrew987> EriC^^: What does that command?
[16:53] <EriC^^> andrew987: it removes executable bit for both files
[16:54] <andrew987> EriC^^: are those files useless?
[16:54] <EriC^^> andrew987: i dont have them they seem related to "proxified" somehow, but the files in them are useless, just all the .efi files picked up
[16:55] <andrew987> EriC^^: done
[16:56] <andrew987> EriC^^: hopefully is all ok
[16:56] <vovova> how do I monitor my DNS requests? Some websites load normal for me, whereas others are taking forever, I suspect DNS is the issue
[16:56] <EriC^^> andrew987: updated grub?
[16:56] <andrew987> EriC^^: Yes, done too
[16:57] <EriC^^> andrew987: aha cool
[16:57] <andrew987> EriC^^: Can I remove all those lines from the boot list?
[16:57] <andrew987> EriC^^: and leave the common 4 lines with OS
[16:57] <EriC^^> andrew987: which ones are left?
[16:58] <andrew987> EriC^^: I opened grub customizer and they are still there
[16:58] <andrew987> EriC^^: The one in the picture
[16:58] <EriC^^> andrew987: try "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:59] <andrew987> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/zfx2
[16:59] <andrew987> EriC^^: from here seems ok
[16:59] <andrew987> EriC^^: maybe grub customizer need reboot
[17:00] <EriC^^> andrew987: yeah
[17:00] <andrew987> EriC^^: Eric, I'd like to have your opinion on a unexpainable and terrible issue
[17:01] <andrew987> EriC^^: If I enter BIOS settings or Boot Menu when starting PC (by pressing F2 for bios or F12 for boot menu), then GRUB permanently disappears and windows 10 starts
[17:02] <andrew987> EriC^^: The only way to retrieve Ubuntu and GRUB is to plug the USB Live and run boot-repair to reinstall GRUB
[17:02] <EriC^^> andrew987: bad uefi implementation, it's very common, there's a work around though
[17:02] <EriC^^> which laptop/desktop manufacturer? i like to know this stuff
[17:02] <andrew987> EriC^^: Acer Aspire E5-575G laptop
[17:03] <andrew987> EriC^^: Is a terrible issue and I'm going crazy
[17:03] <EriC^^> andrew987: acer have some kind of "trust" option in the bios, it might help without a workaround, did you enable it for ubuntu?
[17:03] <andrew987> EriC^
[17:03] <andrew987> EriC^^: I saw something in the BIOS settings
[17:03] <EriC^^> (you need to set the bios admin password to get the option to appear)
[17:04] <andrew987> EriC^^: I have to check, there are a couple settings about this in the security windows in boot settings
[17:04] <poco_> BlackFate, yes. I ssh'd in and removed it with sudo
[17:04] <andrew987> EriC^^: do you think that could be related to the issue?
[17:04] <EriC^^> try to set the admin pass and see if it appears and if you can trust the ubuntu efi
[17:05] <poco_> BlackFate, thanks for the help!
[17:05] <EriC^^> andrew987: i think it's a bad implementation, some laptops reset the uefi list, you dont need boot-repair
[17:05] <andrew987> EriC^^: Yes, I already set a supervisor pass to disable secure boot and I saw that some option were accessible
[17:05] <andrew987> EriC^^: those option too if I recall correctly
[17:05] <EriC^^> if you do f12 and choose the ubuntu efi file and boot ubuntu, then you can use efibootmgr to set ubuntu first before windows
[17:06] <andrew987> EriC^^: I never saw Ubuntu in any boot list, not in the BIOS nor in the boot menu
[17:06] <andrew987> EriC^^: I only see Windows Boot Manager
[17:06] <EriC^^> oh
[17:06] <andrew987> EriC^^: aside from GRUB menu, where obviously I see Ubuntu
[17:06] <EriC^^> you can do it from a live usb
[17:06] <EriC^^> try now, sudo efibootmgr -v
[17:07] <EriC^^> you'll see a list of the uefi entries and a boot order at the top
[17:08] <andrew987> EriC^^: http://pasteboard.co/MvBJBLHd.png
[17:09] <EriC^^> andrew987: ok ubuntu is first right now, windows second
[17:09] <EriC^^> you can try disabling windows completely
[17:09] <andrew987> EriC^^: Ubuntu first? I though I set Windows first
[17:09] <andrew987> EriC^^: when I start pc
[17:10] <andrew987> EriC^^: Should be set that way from grub customizer
[17:10] <EriC^^> no i mean the grub vs windows
[17:11] <EriC^^> grub vs windows boot manager
[17:11] <andrew987> EriC^^: Ahh
[17:11] <andrew987> EriC^^: You mean it starts GRUB instead of Win10
[17:11] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:12] <EriC^^> try the "trust" option in the bios see if it appears or helps, if not try to disable the windows entry
[17:12] <andrew987> EriC^^: How is even possible that just entering the bios settings (without changing anything) it mess up everything?
[17:12] <EriC^^> sudo efibootmgr -A -b 0001
[17:12] <andrew987> EriC^^: If I recall there were like 2 or 3 similar options, I have to check because I'm not sure I understand what to do
[17:12] <EriC^^> if that doesn't work you can switch the efi files of ubuntu and windows, to trick the bios, but disabling the entry usually does it
[17:13] <EriC^^> andrew987: ok, check the options, report back if you need help
[17:13] <andrew987> EriC^^: heh, is funny because once I check the options I won't be able to access ubuntu
[17:13] <andrew987> EriC^^: because GRUB will disappear lol
[17:14] <EriC^^> ah right :D
[17:14] <EriC^^> do you have a live usb?
[17:14] <andrew987> EriC^^: Yes, but ((other issue)) sometimes I have a hardtime in getting the USB recognized
[17:14] <andrew987> EriC^^: Some times with F12 boot menu it doesn't show up
[17:14] <EriC^^> andrew987: ok, should we go full nuke on it then?
[17:14] <EriC^^> just switch the files?
[17:14] <andrew987> EriC^^: hahaha
[17:15] <andrew987> EriC^^: which files?
[17:15] <EriC^^> bootmgfw.efi and shimx64.efi
[17:15] <andrew987> EriC^^: btw what is shimx64?
[17:15] <andrew987> EriC^^: I saw it when using boot-repair
[17:15] <andrew987> EriC^^: it downloaded it I think
[17:15] <EriC^^> it's the efi file for ubuntu with secureboot signature
[17:16] <andrew987> EriC^^: when you say switch files what do you mean exactly?
[17:17] <EriC^^> make a backup of the bootmgfw.efi , copy over the ubuntu one and rename it, then edit grub's os-prober to look for the backed up bootmgfw.efi
[17:17] <mikeymop> can someone explain to me where the phpmyadmin package is installing too?
[17:17] <mikeymop> even the official install documentation says to use the ubuntu repos
[17:17] <EriC^^> mikeymop: dpkg -L phpmyadmin   shows the list of files
[17:17] <andrew987> EriC^^: http://pasteboard.co/7PfZoIdC2.png
[17:18] <EriC^^> !lamp | mikeymop
[17:18] <php> me
[17:18] <mikeymop> ty
[17:18] <dannnyxn> hello
[17:18] <thundeer> need some help with ssh config file. I get : ssh: Could not resolve hostname ubuntu-docker: Name or service not known
[17:18] <thundeer>  I rename the rs_id key. is that the problem?
[17:18] <andrew987> EriC^^: Hmm. I think is too complicated for me heheh
[17:18] <EriC^^> andrew987: ok, you disabled the windows entry
[17:18] <andrew987> EriC^^: keep in mind I installed Ubuntu 2 days ago for the first time
[17:18] <dannnyxn> whare I can find any list of other irc chats?
[17:19] <thundeer> i tested the keys. they work fine. I just cat seem to get the config working
[17:19] <EriC^^> !alis | dannnyxn
[17:19] <EriC^^> andrew987: i can walk you through it, no worries, it's up to you
[17:19] <dannnyxn> !
[17:19] <andrew987> EriC^^: would you mind to add me in skype or something?
[17:19] <dannnyxn> thanks
[17:19] <EriC^^> you can try disabling the windows entry like you did, it's cleaner in my opinion
[17:20] <andrew987> EriC^^: not that I'll bother you, but you are the only one that knows the system
[17:20] <andrew987> EriC^^: if not is ok, np
[17:20] <thundeer> any sysadmins slumbering in here? :)
[17:21] <EriC^^> andrew987: if you need anything you can always come here on irc, i'm on a lot of the time it's most often open in my pc
[17:21] <andrew987> EriC^^: " ok, you disabled the windows entry" what does that mean?
[17:22] <EriC^^> also uefi isn't a big deal, it's been pretty untangeled up and many know about it
[17:22] <EriC^^> so dont worry
[17:22] <andrew987> EriC^^: ok no prob, I'll find you on irc
[17:22] <andrew987> EriC^^: in case
[17:22] <andrew987> EriC^^: I posted my question everywhere and asked here for 2 days and nobody had the slightest idea of the issue
[17:23] <andrew987> EriC^^: besides you
[17:23] <andrew987> EriC^^: computers are evil creatures
[17:24] <toddh> lol
[17:24] <EriC^^> xD
[17:24] <nbro> Hi!
[17:24] <andrew987> EriC^^: anyway, what I have to do next is check those bios options
[17:24] <nbro> What’s the shortcut to close the current opened application?
[17:24] <dannnyxn> do you know where to watch mr robor online season 2?
[17:25] <andrew987> EriC^^: but im still trying to figure out how can simply log into bios mess up the booting
[17:25] <mihajlo> jhv
[17:25] <EriC^^> andrew987: it might be fixed now just with disabling the windows entry, btw if you ever need to re enable it do sudo efibootmgr -a -b 0001
[17:25] <EriC^^> like if you remove ubuntu
[17:25] <thundeer> nbro, ctrl+x. but depends on your desktop env or wm
[17:25] <andrew987> EriC^^: did I disabled windows? meaning I wont see it at next reboot?
[17:25] <EriC^^> andrew987: it's probably a hardwired mechanism, when you enter it it just resets the uefi list, it's dirty of the manufacturer
[17:26] <EriC^^> at least if there's no other option to keep it that's clear
[17:26] <EriC^^> andrew987: just the windows boot manager
[17:27] <thundeer> nbro, did that work?
[17:27] <andrew987> EriC^^: what does that command do? -a -b 0001?
[17:27] <EriC^^> it enables the entry 0001
[17:27] <andrew987> EriC^^: enables in what sense?
[17:28] <andrew987> EriC^^: (im trying to understand what im doing)
[17:28] <EriC^^> in the sense that the uefi doesn't ignore it
[17:28] <nbro> thundeer: no, it doesn’t work, how do I retrieve whic windows manager do I have?
[17:28] <nbro> I’ve looked at the wmctrl -m command
[17:28] <andrew987> EriC^^: before or after grub starts?
[17:28] <nbro> the output shows the name to be Compiz
[17:28] <EriC^^> before..
[17:28] <thundeer> nbro, you are mostly likely on unity, gnome, mate or kde
[17:28] <andrew987> EriC^^: i.e. will windows show up at next restart on grub list?
[17:29] <thundeer> nbro, in setting -> system you can see it if in doubt.
[17:29] <andrew987> EriC^^: If I disabled it, if something happen to grub then this time windows wont show up, right?
[17:30] <EriC^^> andrew987: right
[17:30] <thundeer> nbro, try Alt+f4
[17:31] <nbro> yes, I’m using unity
[17:31] <nbro> yes, Alt+F4 works ;)
[17:31] <nbro> thanks!
[17:31] <nbro> another question
[17:31] <nbro> does anyone know a shortcut to show all workspaces/desktops?
[17:32] <thundeer> nbro, no prop. good to hear. nd use HTOP if it refuses to go away
[17:32] <andrew987> EriC^^: maybe i should read a guide on efibootmgr
[17:32] <andrew987> EriC^^: im having a hard time understanding what i've done
[17:32] <andrew987> EriC^^: maybe for security I type back sudo efibootmgr -a -b 001
[17:32] <andrew987> EriC^^: to have at least 1 OS booting if grub disappear
[17:32] <wad> I updated my web server (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS), and it bumped PHP to version 5.5.9. Unfortunately, the version of mediawiki it runs only works up to PHP 5.5.8. I need to update mediawiki, but to do that, I need to back up PHP to 5.5.8. I've tried a couple of things, but just managed to break it. I fixed it again, but maybe I'm googling the wrong advice. Thoughts?
[17:33] <EriC^^> andrew987: yeah to undo it type sudo efibootmgr -a -b 0001
[17:33] <andrew987> EriC^^: basically that command remove and re-add the boot 0001 from the possible PC startup?
[17:33] <andrew987> EriC^^: boot 0001 being windows
[17:34] <wkoszek> wad: in theory, if the mediawiki is packaged correctly, i think uninstalling php and mediawiki, and then doing apt-get install mediawiki should work. in theory it should fetch the correct php version
[17:34] <EriC^^> yes it enables it
[17:34] <thundeer> wad, if its your own webserver, you wouldnt be asking the question, so im guessing its a shared host?
[17:34] <andrew987> EriC^^: is there a command to see a grub boot list like in grub customizer?
[17:34] <wad> wkoszek, okay. There are other apps on it that use php. It's my own server.
[17:35] <andrew987> EriC^^: where it displays what are the choices and what is selected now
[17:35] <wad> I think what I'd like to do is install a slightly older version of PHP.
[17:35] <wad> Just temporarily.
[17:35] <php> No
[17:35] <php> Don't do it
[17:35] <EriC^^> gtg andrew987 sorry
[17:36] <php> wad the new me is better I promise
[17:36] <andrew987> EriC^^: ok. see ya
[17:36] <andrew987> EriC^^: thank you for your help
[17:36]  * wad is confused. "the new me is better"?
[17:36] <thundeer> wad, why not update your wiki?
[17:37] <php> wad my name is php
[17:37] <php> the new php is better
[17:37] <wad> So mediawiki has an updater built in, if I recall correctly. I can't run it, the whole thing is broken because I have PHP 5.5.9 instead of PHP 5.5.8. My thought is to back it up, just long enough to update mediawiki.
[17:38] <wad> php: Ahhhhhh! Got it. :)
[17:39] <wad> Then, once I've updated mediawiki, I'll put it back to the OS-supported version.
[17:39] <thundeer> wad, tar your mediawiki, fetch the database, run in locally, fix the update, and put it back on the server.
[17:39] <wad> That's a good idea.
[17:40] <wad> Then I don't have to mess with PHP on the server.
[17:40] <thundeer> wad, ;)
[17:43] <wkoszek> has anyone tried to create a private apt repository on one of the 16.x releases? i'm having trouble around the repo not being a autheticated repo
[17:43] <wkoszek> i'm reading the tutorials around the internet and guys report success without using gpg at all, but I guess that doesn't work anymore
[17:44] <thundeer> not fair. asking a repo question like that. And I cant get help with my ssh config file :(
[17:44] <wkoszek> wad: just apt-get install php5=<version>
[17:44] <wkoszek> thundeer: what's your ssh config problem?
[17:45] <wad> That works?!
[17:45] <wkoszek> wad: https://askubuntu.com/questions/778407/how-to-install-a-specific-package-version
[17:46] <wad> E: Version '5.5.8' for 'php5' was not found
[17:46] <wad> I'm going to look into this more.
[17:48] <ducasse> wad: it only works for versions available in your repo sources
[17:48] <thundeer> wkoszek, I feel so embaressed now. I forgot to save the file when i exited vim. wow. I feel stupid.
[17:48] <wad> Ah! I just need to add that, then...
[17:48] <sinthetek> since upgrading from 16.04 i keep getting notification sounds but i cannot find any sign of notices (through osd, system tray or /var/log). this issue has persisted both with unity and plasma. any ideas how i can track down the source of the issue?
[17:49] <thundeer> wkoszek, it works now :) well.. question. i rename the config file, and have then in my .ssh folder. do you use subfolders for your keys? is saltstack something i should learn when i get more clients?
[17:50] <sinthetek> i suspect something has gone awry in my hardware but unsure how to go about pinpointing it... i mostly use an older laptop and the only attached device is an hdmi monitor through a displayport adapter
[17:50] <thundeer> wkoszek, also.. is setting up ssh keys for all active container on the same docker droplet a bad idea?
[17:50] <wkoszek> thundeer: i just use maybe 4 SSH key file, so I'm perhaps I'm a bad person for this.
[17:52] <wkoszek> thundeer: not sure. you're asking something that isn't very specific, so it's hard to answer this stuff.
[17:53] <thundeer> wkoszek, okay. thanks. so for now it looks right. naming the keys, in .ssh folder, and using a config file.
[17:56] <wkoszek> thundeer: pretty much. I stick them there and use a script I wrote: https://github.com/wkoszek/lastpass-ssh
[17:56] <wkoszek> thundeer: this is to unlock the keys, since all of them have passphrases
[18:00] <thundeer> wkoszek, wow. thanks. so.... your method adds an extra level of security in that way? a master password to unlock all your keys, and from there you use ssh "hostname" (the config file)????
[18:02] <grantwu> I can't easily come up with a security model in which this is better than just using the same password for all of your key files
[18:03] <wkoszek> thundeer: yes. I have: alias Sen='/Users/wkoszek/r/lastpass-ssh/bin/lastpass-ssh --keys-path=/Users/wkoszek/r/dot.ssh.wkoszek/' It unlocks all my keys with respective passwords stored in lastpass.
[18:05] <thundeer> wkoszek, Thats clever. I will try to get your script up'n running :)
[18:05] <thundeer> wkoszek, Terminator 2 :D
[18:05] <wkoszek> grantwu: lets say I give you 5 ssh files. you take one of them and run a dictionary attack on it, and you succeed. ops.
[18:05] <grantwu> Use a long enough password such that it's not feasibl.
[18:05] <grantwu> *feasible.
[18:06] <grantwu> If it's feasible for an attacker to do that once, it's feasible for an attacker to do it 5 times.
[18:06] <sinthetek> hdmi/displayport officially ruled out as the culprit. i guess i can just disable notification sounds indefinitely but i kinda need to know what's triggering it
[18:07] <thundeer> grantwu, in the real world most people are a bit lazy and use a kurwa password. so its a good idea with a master password.
[18:08] <grantwu> or, you can use the same strong password on all your SSH keys... the reason this doesn't hold up for website passwords is because you cannot trust the website to store your password properly.  Presumably you trust OpenSSH to do things properly.
[18:10] <wkoszek> to me it's just a matter on how convenient i want it to be, and how big risk i want to take. and since i'm ok with using lastpass' command line client, i can as well use different passphrases, since it doesn't cost me anything.
[18:10] <thundeer> grantwu, but i thought the password is for the rsa only, and not for the rsa.pub?
[18:11] <grantwu> thundeer: Yes
[18:12] <thundeer> grantwu, " you cannot trust the website to store your password properly.  Presumably you trust OpenSSH to do things properly.". Sorry, i didnt understand that part.
[18:13] <grantwu> Some websites do bad things like storing your website in plaintext, or using weak password hashing algorithms, etc.  Even if they don't now, the website could be compromised in the future
[18:13]  * wkoszek <- lazy. doesn't want to be typing any passwords. tried to find methods to use tools for password management.
[18:13] <grantwu> If an attacker can get the password from that website, you don't want the attacker to be able to use that password for any other logins.
[18:14] <grantwu> With SSH keys, this isn't a problem, because there's no remote service.  Theoretically an attacker could keylog your system, but that's already a game-over scenario.
[18:14] <grantwu> I just use ssh-agent *shrug*
[18:15] <thundeer> grantwu, i dont follow. you mean if lastpast gets hacked on the local machine?
[18:15] <grantwu> thundeer: Er, no, I'm not talking about a workflow involving LastPass at all
[18:15] <grantwu> I'm explaining why you want different passwords for every website, and why that rationale doesn't cleanly transfer to SSH keys
[18:17] <thundeer> grantwu, bash history or a keylogger would be the only security risk then, to gain access to lastpass?
[18:17] <grantwu> I doubt bash history will store passwords entered
[18:18] <grantwu> A keylogger is a pretty complete compromise regardless of whether or not you use LastPass
[18:25] <thundeer> grantwu, okay. did some reading. guess it depends on the level of paranoia.
[18:26] <theToolman> the whole world is paranoid right now.
[18:27] <thundeer> theToolman, see.. you were there listening all along :D
[18:27] <theToolman> lol as usual
[18:27] <theToolman> had to come over to my other desktop to see the status of an rsync and i saw yall talking that bs
[18:28] <theToolman> ahhhhhh
[18:28] <thundeer> well.. I was considering just using ccrypt for the .ssh folder, but I didnt dare to mention it.
[18:28] <theToolman> the one fucking hdd that i wanted to recover data from has a bad superblock :(
[18:29] <theToolman> why do you need to crypt your ssh folder?
[18:29] <thundeer> theToolman, was thinking of wkoszekś script to use lastpass to store passwords for the rs keys.
[18:30] <wkoszek> to be honest i think i'm rather protecting my password from myself. e.g.: i'm talking on #ubuntu in one iterm window, and logging in to my box in another and if I need to type anything, there's a risk of confusing windows
[18:30] <theToolman> tmux
[18:30] <theToolman> try it
[18:30] <theToolman> you'll love it
[18:30] <thundeer> love i3 :)
[18:30] <theToolman> i3 works too
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> screen <3
[18:31] <theToolman> ewww screen
[18:32] <theToolman> has anyone gotten fsck to work on hfs+?
[18:33] <theToolman> fuck it. i'm just gonna plug it into my mac and see what disk tools can do
[18:33] <thundeer> theToolman, bad blocks on harddisk. I have that problem with a 500GB external harddisk. is there a fast way to locate the blocks and fix it? or does it really have to take days?
[18:33] <ducasse> !language | theToolman
[18:34] <thundeer> fsck :(
[18:34] <thundeer> I think what he meant was "fork It"
[18:35] <theToolman> lol
[18:35] <theToolman> you know, worst case scenario you can use guymager and autopsy
[18:36] <thundeer> theToolman, noted. thanks for tips :)
[18:36] <thundeer> grantwu, thanks all your help :) will try out your setup :)
[18:37] <theToolman> whats the FS of the drive you're trying to crack open
[18:38] <theToolman> thundeer: whats the FS of the disk you're trying to crack?
[18:38] <thundeer> theToolman, ext4. just used it for quick backups. last time it went wrong. several important files contain bad block. I know which ones.
[18:39] <theToolman> well the bad block is on the FS level and not the file level
[18:39] <thundeer> theToolman, oh.. bummer :(
[18:40] <theToolman> but still, an fsck -f should be able to fix it if its ext4
[18:40] <theToolman> lol it came right up on my mac
[18:40] <theToolman> hahahaha
[18:41] <thundeer> theToolman, okay. so I just have to leave it running through the night then. It just seemed to take forever, so I stopped it, and hoped for different solution.
[18:41] <thundeer> theToolman, nice :) that was a quick fix
[18:43] <theToolman> it usually does go by pretty quick
[18:44] <theToolman> the ones that i've had take a bunch of time before our on my slackware boxes
[18:45] <skweek> My system is running like crap, stuff crashes a lot and the gui stops working a lot... I was thinking about re-installing but I need to figure out a good way to reinstall all of my packages, I have a partitioned /home and a separate root which makes things a little easier... but I wanted to ask if anyone had some advice about how to go about the current packages
[18:45] <theToolman> dpkg-query
[18:45] <theToolman> skweek:
[18:45] <thundeer> theToolman, will give it another go :)
[18:46] <ducasse> !clone | skweek
[18:46] <theToolman> ducasse: did you make that bot?
[18:47] <ducasse> no, it's one of several infobots in the ubuntu channels
[18:48] <theToolman> ducasse: i liked that one. is there any more or a directory?
[18:48] <ducasse> !brain
[18:48] <theToolman> oh thats awesome! thanks!
[18:48] <ducasse> np
[18:50] <garogat> Does anyone know a nice webinterface to monitor a graph of continuous pings?
[18:50] <Koleon> Hello guys, please could anyone help me with - iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4 says: /etc/iptables/rules.v4: No such file or directory. When I run "netfilter-persistent save" it seems that rules are saved. But where??
[18:50] <theToolman> garogat: have you tried nagios?
[18:50] <ikonia> garogat: pingdon?
[18:50] <ikonia> dom
[18:50] <theToolman> Koleon: ls -lah /etc/iptables
[18:51] <ducasse> Koleon: create /etc/iptables first
[18:51] <Koleon> theToolman: ls: cannot access '/etc/iptables': No such file or directory :(
[18:51] <theToolman> Koleon: you might need to make the directory /etc/iptables befor you can put files in it
[18:51] <theToolman> mkdir /etc/iptables/
[18:51] <Koleon> ducasse: Thanks, I'll give it a try.
[18:51] <Guest67963> I am still on 16.04, is 17.04 worth it?
[18:51] <theToolman> nahhhh
[18:51] <theToolman> Guest67963:
[18:52] <theToolman> i'm still on 16.04. will upgrade on the next lts
[18:52] <ducasse> Guest67963: 17.04 is not lts, if that matters to you
[18:52] <Guest67963> LTS not so much as nothing buggy
[18:56] <garogat> ikonia, theToolman: im searching for a free and simple way. isnt nagios a bit overkill for just monitoring the outgoing connection
[18:56] <Koleon> ducasse: theToolman: Thank you guys, my rules are saved unfortunately they are not persistent, they are cleared after reboot.
[18:56] <ikonia> garogat: pingdom
[18:56] <ikonia> garogat: cacti
[18:57] <ikonia> shell script wrapping ping in html
[18:58] <garogat> ikonia: pingdom isn't free?!
[18:58] <ikonia> garogat: isn't it ?
[18:59] <ShaRose> ikonia pingdom is free for one check iirc
[18:59] <ShaRose> beyond that it's a paid service
[18:59] <qazeeassad> hello everyone
[18:59] <qazeeassad> I have a question...
[18:59] <ikonia> shh
[18:59] <ikonia> so one check = ping
[19:00] <ShaRose> yeah, but it's inbound, so you'd need to set up dynamic dns unless you have a static ip
[19:00] <ShaRose> you could probably set up graphana for it, but \/O_o\/
[19:01] <garogat> ShaRose: that's the freifunk used monitor?
[19:01] <ruby32_> how do I get systemd to run a program at startup?
[19:01] <ShaRose> no idea who / what freifunk is, but graphana is commonly used for graphing stuff like uptimes, ping responses, etc
[19:01] <EriC^^> !systemd| ruby32_
[19:02] <ShaRose> I haven't gotten around to setting it up before
[19:02] <qazeeassad> is there any dating channel available on this chat app???
[19:03] <qazeeassad> a lot of people are JOINING and QUITTING.... whats going on???
[19:04] <ikonia> people are joining and quitting
[19:04] <qazeeassad> BUT why? lol
[19:04] <ikonia> "lol" ?
[19:04] <compdoc> they dont like you
[19:04] <qazeeassad> oh :(
[19:04] <EriC^^> it's the apocalypse
[19:04] <ikonia> doesn't look unusually high
[19:04] <qazeeassad> I must be Godzilla
[19:05] <Mathisen> this is why you turn off join/parts in client
[19:05] <Mathisen> easyer to read chat also for that sake
[19:06] <freedddy> where is the ubuntu chat channel?
[19:06] <qazeeassad> there are more than 1800 people on this chat server, but nobody except very few are chatting..
[19:06] <hypn0> it their right qazeeassad
[19:06] <freedddy> qazeeassad: welcome to ubuntu channels?
[19:06] <qazeeassad> @freddy I think we are in it...
[19:06] <ikonia> freedddy: there is an offtopic channel, #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:06] <freedddy> no one ever talks here
[19:06] <ikonia> this channel is for support discussion
[19:06] <ikonia> freedddy: thats nonsense, it's quite a busy channel
[19:06] <qazeeassad> ikonia, are you an ADMIN here?
[19:06] <freedddy> join /#ubuntu-offtopic
[19:06] <ikonia> qazeeassad: yes
[19:07] <ruby32_> EriC^^ thank you
[19:07] <ruby32_> the problem was i had the wrong symlink enabled
[19:07] <ruby32_> typos are deadly
[19:07] <qazeeassad> ikonia are you Official Admin??? or Community raised/managed or something like that??
[19:07] <freedddy> i hate symlinks :(
[19:07] <ikonia> qazeeassad: what's the problem ?
[19:08] <ikonia> the channel is run / managed by the ubuntu community on behalf of the ubuntu project
[19:08] <qazeeassad> nothing Ikonia, I am just new and want to understand how things are going on
[19:08] <ikonia> !itc | qazeeassad
[19:08] <ruby32_> i have one last issue... my bash script works when i run it as the root user, but it won't work on system startup from systemd...
[19:08] <ikonia> !irc | qazeeassad
[19:08] <ruby32_> actually, the whole script works except the last thing, which is a node program
[19:08] <ikonia> !guidelines | qazeeassad
[19:08] <ruby32_> is there any reason a bash script would work when executed as root, but not work when executed upon system reboot under systemd?
[19:09] <freedddy> can't join the channel
[19:09] <ikonia> freedddy: you need to register your nickname
[19:09] <ikonia> !register | freedddy
[19:09] <qazeeassad> are you BOT? uBOTtu?
[19:09] <freedddy> i have a nickname
[19:09] <ikonia> qazeeassad: ubottu is a bot
[19:09] <ikonia> freedddy: read the link
[19:09] <freedddy> how do i use my nickname?
[19:09] <qazeeassad> oh great!!!
[19:09] <ikonia> freedddy: READ the link
[19:09] <qazeeassad> what about you? Ikonia? are you a bot also ? or a human being?
[19:10] <ikonia> qazeeassad: what do you think based on our interactions so far
[19:10] <ikonia> or are you trying to be funny
[19:10] <qazeeassad> hmmm, good question
[19:10] <qazeeassad> no not funny
[19:10] <qazeeassad> plz...
[19:10] <qazeeassad> i am just learning things over here
[19:10] <qazeeassad> if i am too annoying then let me know, I will come some other time
[19:11] <Grorco_> hi every time I try running software updater I get an error that it can't connect to the repository. I tried disabling the few ppas I had manually added but didn't help any suggestions?
[19:11] <ikonia> Grorco_: what's the exact error (use a pastebin)
[19:12] <Grorco_> ikonia, the gui doesn't have a readout
[19:12] <ikonia> Grorco_: it must output an error
[19:13] <Grorco_> ikonia, says to check my internet connection
[19:13] <ikonia> Grorco_: what is the EXACT error
[19:13] <ikonia> take a screen shot if you need to
[19:13] <ikonia> Grorco_: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update"
[19:13] <ikonia> pastebin the output
[19:14] <qazeeassad> how to search for APT's?
[19:14] <effectnet> i put in a device and i can never delete from it
[19:15] <ikonia> for apts ?
[19:15] <qazeeassad> yes
[19:15] <qazeeassad> apt
[19:15] <qazeeassad> how to search properly
[19:15] <qazeeassad> i use apt search python etc.... but it gives me a gigantic list
[19:15] <qazeeassad> which I cannot read
[19:15] <Grorco_> ikonia, http://imgur.com/a/bKGZC
[19:15] <qazeeassad> or hard to find what i want
[19:15] <ikonia> qazeeassad: use the package manager gui or pipe to grep or more
[19:16] <ikonia> Grorco_: ok, open a terminal "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the output
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> qazeeassad  use    apt search python | grep blah
[19:18] <effectnet> hello i cant delete files in nautilus.  when i try to use gksu nautilus, it tells me that my password is wrong.
[19:18] <effectnet> and this is on inserting devices, i have a few readers to update
[19:18] <ducasse> qazeeassad: 'apt search' also takes multiple search strings, and you can use quotes for multi-word strings. narrows things down a lot.
[19:18] <ikonia> ducasse: thats useful, didn't know that
[19:19] <Grorco_> ikonia, https://pastebin.com/UbPXWPGZ
[19:19] <wadadli> My Ubuntu Desktop randomly becomes unresponsive—can someone please help me solve this issue?
[19:20] <ikonia> Grorco_: lots of ignores and duplication in there
[19:20] <qazeeassad> thanks Ducasse, but just this simple search for one keyword python gives you a long list...
[19:20] <effectnet> i got my thing fixed
[19:20] <qazeeassad> how to make it so that all packages that have python in them, should come up... in apt search
[19:20] <qazeeassad> apt search python
[19:21] <Grorco_> ikonia, can I just manually edit those files?
[19:21] <qazeeassad> this simple search gives you a very long list of packages
[19:21] <ducasse> qazeeassad: are you actually interested in every python-related package?
[19:21] <Grorco_> ikonia, or someway to revert to stock?
[19:21] <qazeeassad> actually no, but I want to understand how it works
[19:21] <Bashing-om> wadadli: Enough ram on-noard to support the Desktop Environment - maybe run top and see what is consumming the memory resources ?
[19:22] <ikonia> Grorco_: you can edit them
[19:22] <qazeeassad> there must be a method to search Package Names only
[19:22] <ducasse> qazeeassad: you can also use 'apt search --names-only' to only search package names, not descriptions
[19:22] <effectnet> hi where do i go to see a new device inserted?  it's not in /media
[19:22] <wadadli> Bashing-om: I have 32GB of RAM.
[19:22] <effectnet> ha it is found it
[19:23] <Bashing-om> wadadli: L) then for sure with 32 G - not a ram issue .
[19:23] <wadadli> Bashing-om: I asked here before and I was told to do a memtest which I passed without any errors. I'm so frustrated by this now.
[19:24] <Bashing-om> wadadli: In my experience then, back to 'top' and see what memory management is like .
[19:25] <wadadli> I can't read top
[19:25] <wadadli> Is the system monitor okay?
[19:25] <qazeeassad> ducasse, still a big list but thank you,,,
[19:26] <qazeeassad> you are so much helpful dude
[19:26] <ducasse> qazeeassad: try more than one search term
[19:26] <qazeeassad> yep,,, and I am sure to find packages more easily
[19:27] <effectnet> hi i keep getting 'read only filesystem' trying to delete from an ereader, what do i do
[19:28] <effectnet> chown: Read only file system
[19:29] <freedddy> csvxcvsdgvsd
[19:29] <wadadli> system is using 3.3GiB (10.7%) of 31.GiB
[19:30] <Grorco_> ikonia, thank you!
[19:31] <wadadli_> I just crashed again....
[19:33] <tomreyn> effectnet: chown is a command to change a file system opject's ownership, not to delete it.
[19:33] <tomreyn> *object's
[19:33] <effectnet> hi tomreyn i just wanna delete some files
[19:33] <wadadli_> can someone please assist me
[19:33] <tomreyn> !ask | wadadli_
[19:34] <tomreyn> effectnet: what happens if you run 'rm' on one of these files?
[19:34] <wadadli_> why is the computer freezing so often?
[19:34] <wadadli_> I have to press the power button to turn it off
[19:35] <Bashing-om> wadadli_: Ouch - I hate when that happens [ A good tutorial on top : http://tecadmin.net/understanding-linux-top-command-results-uses/# .
[19:36] <Bashing-om> wadadli_: And a wild thought . what grahics set do you have ?
[19:36] <wadadli_> No clue
[19:36] <effectnet> rm: cannot remove "file" : Read-only filesystem
[19:36] <wadadli_> Which ever is default
[19:39] <effectnet> touch test       touch: cannot touch "test": Read-Only file system
[19:40] <ShaRose> anyone here use lxd with raw.idmap? It's not liking me very much at the moment.
[19:40] <Bashing-om> wadadli_: Continued exploration of that wild thought ; pastebin ' inxi -G ' .
[19:42] <freedddy> dsfsadfsd'
[19:42] <freedddy> '
[19:42] <freedddy> dsf
[19:42] <freedddy> 'sd
[19:42] <freedddy> 'fsadf
[19:42] <freedddy> 'sdaf
[19:44] <wadadli_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24443293/
[19:47] <Bashing-om> wadadli_: Maybe not so wild after all . I had the same issue with my GT710 card . Additional drivers and install the proprietary driver .
[19:48] <Bashing-om> wadadli_: make sure you are fully updated before installing the nVidia driver !
[19:49] <wadadli_> Bashing-om: I tried the proprietary drivers when I first installed
[19:49] <wadadli_> I had very bad resolution on reboot
[19:50] <wadadli_> Bashing-om: also if it was an issue with the graphics card wouldn't it be logged in the journal?
[19:51] <wadadli_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24443233/ — I'm not seeing any errors or warnings relating to the graphics card
[19:52] <Guest46664> great
[19:52] <Bashing-om> wadadli_: Then I suspect the driver did not install . mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24443334/ . drove me nuts for 2 months with system "freezing" NOTHING in the logs . since I finally, for no other thing to try, installed the nVidia driver I have been stable !
[19:53] <effectnet> ok im disappointed. oh well.  just lots of small filesystem problems when you insert a troubled usb device.
[19:53] <effectnet> i'll hope for better times when they fix more stuff :D
[20:00] <effectnet> hahah i just plugged usb stuff into windows, repair it and then it works in linux again
[20:00] <ppf> when connecting the wifi, i get this: "wlp4s0: IPv6 duplicate address fe80::bla "
[20:01] <ppf> is this an ubuntu issue?
[20:02] <ppf> cause it works with a wired connection and on windows
[20:04] <ppf> there's an old expired bug on launchpad
[20:04] <_john> I don't think the hardware remembers IP settings. this is always done in software. no matter what os
[20:04] <_john> you choose to dhcp
[20:04] <ppf> _john: me?
[20:04] <_john> you choose your ip on static ip
[20:04] <_john> yes
[20:04] <ppf> then i don't understand it
[20:04] <ppf> it's the modem's dhcp that's distributing the addresses
[20:04] <_john> you got a duplicate ip address problem
[20:05] <_john> no matter what os
[20:05] <ppf> i don't think i do
[20:05] <_john> it is a common error
[20:05] <ppf> i think that's a red herring
[20:05] <_john> oh I see
[20:05] <_john> maybe you should lspci
[20:05] <ppf> as i said, windows wifi, android wifi and wired connections all get correct v6 addresses
[20:06] <_john> are you using DHCP?
[20:06] <ppf> yes
[20:06] <_john> I don't know why it broke :(
[20:06] <ppf> actually it hasn't worked before
[20:06] <ppf> never has
[20:06] <ppf> (on ubuntu)
[20:07] <_john> if it aint fixed don't broke it I always say
[20:07] <EricBB> Can anyone tell me why my lamp server runs wordpress slow from a remote machine via local ip, but runs fast from the server via localhost?
[20:07] <_john> we have to buy linux compatible wifi stuff
[20:07] <_john> much easier than adding packages
[20:08] <ppf> wat
[20:08] <_john> plug and play
[20:08] <ppf> now you aren't makeing any sense anymore ;)
[20:08] <_john> what hardware are you using for wlp4s0
[20:08] <_john> what wifi chipset
[20:08] <_john> is it a vm?
[20:10] <ppf> intel 8260
[20:10] <ppf> native hardware
[20:11] <_john> what kernel
[20:13] <ppf> 4.4.0-72-generic
[20:13] <_john> https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi
[20:13] <_john> you can get the alias
[20:13] <_john> PCI: 8086:24F4 Intel Corporation Wireless 8260
[20:13] <_john> that should help
[20:14] <wadadli_> Bashing-om: which version of the driver are you using?
[20:14] <ppf> _john: how
[20:14] <_john> you want to check what driver it is using to run the 8260
[20:14] <_john> having the alias will help identify your wifi card when you start looking at all the settings in your system
[20:15] <Bashing-om> webuser5224: 375 version driver .
[20:15] <_john> if I remember was the 8260 for laptops?
[20:15] <ppf> _john: wifi is working, this most likely isn't a driver problem
[20:15] <ppf> yes, it's a laptop
[20:16] <_john> I think that was a really popular wifi module
[20:16] <_john> had one in the very first atom nuc thing
[20:16] <_john> I remember they were everywhere used for a good price
 when connecting the wifi, i get this: "wlp4s0: IPv6 duplicate address fe80::bla "
[20:18] <_john> maybe there is a script running twice
[20:18] <ppf> can you be more precise?
[20:18] <_john> or a loopback somewhere
[20:18] <_john> I am being non-precise
[20:18] <_john> it happens when you install something from another repo
[20:19] <_john> or without using the package manager
[20:19] <ppf> ??
[20:19] <_john> thats the best I can do
[20:19] <VulvaLicker> I want sex
[20:19] <_john> anything can break it
[20:19] <_john> only you can fix it
[20:19] <_john> you got the keyboard
[20:19] <_john> ROOT
[20:20] <VulvaLicker> rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[20:21] <Bashing-om> !danger
[20:22] <_john> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh1XIHDl5NY
[20:22] <IronDev> Hi
[20:22] <IronDev> I am trying to install 16.04.2
[20:23] <IronDev> But I am getting error messages on bootup
[20:23] <_john> COOL
[20:23] <_john> sorry caps
[20:23] <_john> what is the error
[20:24] <IronDev> Let me take a pic
[20:25] <Znevna> hello. probably not the best place to ask but i donno what to try anymore. any idea why oidentd works fine over ipv6 but on ipv4 i'm getting  : ERROR : NO-USER ?
[20:26] <IronDev> _john: Im uploading it rn
[20:27] <niee> hi. i have problem with shortcut buttons. i set some 2 buttons for UP and DOWN volume. i see the indicator to down, but sound not control for this. any ideas how to fix this?
[20:29] <IronDev> _john: https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/DpNI2622RKKEvnCdPue0?signature=13524c78bc495e16d02f7c79efb469ef3e6f598b7670b1ff40923722f778219a&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0OTI5ODIxMTh9
[20:31] <_john> ata7 ata8 could be a hard drive or hard drive controller
[20:31] <_john> something don't talk to something
[20:31] <IronDev> _john: wym something dont talk to something
[20:32] <_john> it might be more useful if I knew what part of the boot process this is happening, what distro, what architechure
[20:32] <ppf> _john: your replies are really unhelpful
[20:32] <EricBB> anyone know why wordpress on localhost on my server would be fast, but from another computer on the network via the local ip it is very slow?
[20:32] <_john> there is a error with an ata device
[20:32] <ppf> EricBB: maybe your network is slow?
[20:33] <_john> his pic was not helpful
[20:33] <ppf> IronDev: can you scroll up in the error log
[20:33] <_john> there is almost no information
[20:33] <_john> 10 lines truncated half the screen
[20:33] <IronDev> _john: If you want I can take another picture
[20:34] <IronDev> ppf: I dont think it will let me scroll
[20:34] <_john> maybe you can put the log in pastebin and share the link
[20:34] <YankDownUnder> EricBB: Speed of network, firewall, traffic on the network, etc.
[20:34] <_john> do you have access to the log file?
[20:34] <ppf> _john: there's plenty of info, you aren't helping...
[20:34] <tomreyn> Znevna: probably a NAT issue. use oidentd -m
[20:34] <ppf> IronDev: is this a laptop?
[20:34] <IronDev> _john: Where can I find it
[20:34] <IronDev> ppf: Desktop
[20:35] <_john> I'm not helping
[20:35] <ppf> do you have an OS on it already? when does this error occur?
[20:35] <_john> I'm done
[20:35] <_john> ppf will help you
[20:35] <tomreyn> Znevna:  or -r USERNAME
[20:35] <IronDev> ppf: Yes
[20:35] <IronDev> ppf: This error occured just rn
[20:36] <ppf> doing what? booting the OS? installing the OS?
[20:36] <wadadli> Bashing-om: So I'm on 375 but here's the thing, I can't enter my password to unlock dm-crypt
[20:36] <wadadli> So I'm forced to boot in recovery
[20:36] <wadadli> then continue the boot from there
[20:37] <wadadli> in normal mode
[20:37] <Znevna> Failed lookup: 32477 , 6667 : (returned viper) >.>
[20:37] <Znevna> with -r username
[20:37] <IronDev> ppf: After selecting either *Try Ubuntu or *Check Disk for errors
[20:37] <IronDev> I havent done install Ubuntu
[20:37] <ppf> so you're booting from the installer disk
[20:37] <IronDev> ppf: Yes
[20:37] <ppf> okay
[20:38] <ppf> do you have a working OS already installed?
[20:38] <tomreyn> Znevna: not sure, maybe try summetric nat. i was only reporting back what i read on a german language discussion of this issue at http://yauw.de/irc/ident-FAQ.shtml
[20:38] <ppf> IronDev: which mainboard is this?
[20:39] <Bashing-om> wadadli: Sorry, can not help with encryption . no experience there in a desktop environment .
[20:39] <IronDev> ppf: Windows 10, Asrock Z77 Extreme4
[20:39] <wadadli> Bashing-om: Idk how the nvidia drivers manages to break that
[20:39] <tomreyn> Znevna: may i ask what your use case is? to me, i have not used any identd implementation for years.
[20:40] <Znevna> using it on my znc. wierd cuz it worked fine *some time ago* i just noticed it fails on ipv4 servers
[20:41] <ppf> IronDev: try and add libata.atapi_passthru16=0 to your kernel command line
[20:41] <Bashing-om> wadadli: Me neither . ,, Another thought then to check for stability . I also have 14.04 installaed that has no open source support for that card  - I can boot up with 'nomodeset' with no issues also .
[20:41] <ppf> IronDev: what devices do you have on your sata bus?
[20:43] <bertman> has anyone experienced wifi packet loss with 16.10 yakkety and realtek wifi on laptop?
[20:43] <IronDev> ppf: A 1TB HDD, and DVD drive
[20:44] <ppf> IronDev: okay. unplug the DVD drive for the moment
[20:44] <ppf> and try again (without changeing the kernel command line)
[20:46] <IronDev> ppf: Wouldn't that freeze the installation
[20:46] <ppf> shut down the machin first :p
[20:48] <IronDev> ppf: What I'm saying is though is that I am using a DVD for my installation
[20:48] <ppf> ah ...
[20:49] <ppf> either put the iso on a thumbdrive or modify the kernel commandline then
[20:49] <IronDev> ppf: Alright, let me get one
[20:51] <Azero> Hello.
[20:52] <dajomu1> azero hello
[20:58] <azizLIGHT> when i did rsync -vcaxhP . /destinationdir , with current directory already been copied to destinationdir previously using gui nautilus, and then i see a bunch of directories being listed in rsync output, what is going on...
[20:59] <azizLIGHT> no files listed in rsync output, just dirs
[20:59] <azizLIGHT> what does it mean
[21:05] <ppf> azizLIGHT: -r to recurse into directories
[21:05] <azizLIGHT> i believe -a covers that
[21:05] <Guest46664> !!
[21:05] <azizLIGHT> -a covers -rlptgoD
[21:06] <ppf> true..
[21:06] <IronDev> ppf: Im starting to think my iso is corrupt
[21:07] <wedgie> azizLIGHT: you might consider asking in #rsync
[21:07] <ppf> IronDev: why
[21:07] <IronDev> ppf: Do you know where I can find the checksum
[21:07] <YankDownUnder> IronDev: Maybe it's not the ISO but the read head on the DVD...
[21:07] <azizLIGHT> wedgie: good idea
[21:09] <ppf> IronDev: http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/
[21:09] <ppf> why do you think the iso is corrupt?
[21:11] <YankDownUnder> When a CD/DVD isn't working: 1.) Check the integrity of the ISO 2.) Check the blank for scratches 3.) Clean the laser/read head 4.) Check if AV might be running (Windows) -> ain't much else.
[21:13] <ppf> YankDownUnder: you missed the problem description
[21:14] <YankDownUnder> ppf: Lack of coffee, lack of tobacco, lack of Thai Slave Woman to serve me.
[21:14] <Guest46664> ...
[21:15] <Guest46664> what the ...
[21:15] <YankDownUnder> Guest46664: Happy Monday.
[21:17] <IronDev> YankDownUnder Happy Friday
[21:18] <IronDev> ppf: md5 seems to check out
[21:18] <IronDev> I guess its my program
[21:20] <ppf> IronDev: what's the issue then ...
[21:22] <ppf> beware that i never ask more than three times ;)
[21:22] <ppf> i'm a fan of three
[21:23] <YankDownUnder> Three is the number of atoms in a water molecule. Very trite, concise and clean.
[21:24] <ppf> isn't it?
[21:25] <talha_> hello
[21:25] <talha_> guys
[21:25] <ppf> let me reraise my earlier question: when connecting the wifi on xenial, i can't get ipv6 up: wlp4s0: IPv6 duplicate address
[21:25] <talha_> whats up?
[21:25] <IronDev> ppf: What I was using to write the iso to the flash drive
[21:26] <ppf> there's a couple of 'workarounds' on google, neither of which works
[21:26] <ppf> first i'd like to understand what the problem is, though
[21:26] <ppf> IronDev: not an answer to my question
[21:27] <LetterRip> hi after upgrading gedit has a transparent background
[21:27] <LetterRip> any ideas how to fix?
[21:27] <IronDev> ppf: I am trying to write Ubuntu iso to my flash drive
[21:27] <ppf> here's the full one: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24443906/
[21:28] <ppf> IronDev: yes, and I asked what the problem was three times
[21:28] <IronDev> ppf: But unetbootin keeps freezing everytime I get to .mod file
[21:28] <LetterRip> apparently the transparent gedit is related to ibus in some way
[21:29] <ppf> IronDev: hm, that's a windows tool (that's never once worked for me...). i can't help you there I'm afraid
[21:29] <YankDownUnder> IronDev: Have you considered using something different to create a bootable USB/DVD?
[21:31] <IronDev> YankDownUnder: Yes, I am using the DD method
[21:32] <YankDownUnder> IronDev: Fair enough.
[21:34] <LetterRip> changing themes 'fixed' it
[21:34] <LetterRip> not ideal, but works
[21:35] <sim642> I wanted to upgrade xubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 and now I'm getting a screenful of packages listed and the text: "Processing was halted because there were too many errors."
[21:36] <sim642> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24443966/
[21:38] <linuxwheels> sim642: try running sudo apt-get -f install
[21:38] <sim642> Same stuff
[21:38] <sim642> it's full of dependency problems
[21:39] <sim642> This might be the root cause:
[21:39] <sim642> dpkg: error processing package udev (--configure):
[21:39] <sim642>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[21:39] <linuxwheels> sim642: try running sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[21:39] <ppf> you probably messed up your apt with some ppa
[21:39] <YankDownUnder> sim642: Do you have any devices connected that you might be able to disconnect? Not critical devices, obviously...just asking...
[21:41] <sim642> linuxwheels, that seems to be dong something but I'm still seeing dependency errors and it ended with the same list again
[21:41] <theToolman> lol that guys resolved ip address hahahahahaha
[21:42] <theToolman> >>>>>    ~hi@guerillapunk.backtraced.yo.ass.from.inside.ur.seriesoftub.es]
[21:42] <sim642> ppf, messed up how? I just ran do-release-upgrade
[21:42] <sim642> YankDownUnder, why?
[21:43] <ppf> sim642: at some point before that, did you ever add a ppa?
[21:43] <sim642> I have added many yes, why?
[21:44] <YankDownUnder> sim642: Logic - udev affects devices (drives peripherals and more) - sometimes it causes an issue. Happened to a machine I had to upgrade. Either which, you're at a point of not being able to back out - yes?
[21:44] <ppf> sim642: because that brings the danger of severely tripping up apt
[21:44] <ppf> as you're experiencing right now
[21:45] <sim642> Doesn't the upgrade procedure disable other sources? It says something like that at the start
[21:45] <linuxwheels> ppa's can cause things to break
[21:45] <ppf> it's not about the sources, but the installed packages
[21:45] <YankDownUnder> sim642: Nah - it doesn't disable them at all. Always a good idea to comment them out before doing a system upgrade (release upgrade)
[21:46] <ppf> YankDownUnder: yes it does
[21:46] <ppf> but that's not the point
[21:46] <theToolman> agree with YankDownUnder
[21:46] <sim642> is there anywhere i can see why that udev postinstall script fails?
[21:47] <ppf> sim642: run dpkg again, but increase debug output
[21:47] <ppf> sim642: where does it say postinst though?
[21:48] <ppf> that wasn't in your paste
[21:48] <sim642> I copied two lines right after the paste into this chat
[21:48] <ppf> right, must have missed that
[21:48] <sim642> There's a massive screenful of all the listed packages failing because of udev dependency or something
[21:48] <sim642> udev one being the first one with that postinst error
[21:49] <ppf> okay then, as i said
[21:49] <ppf> configure udev with dpkg, but with debug enabled
[21:50] <sim642> Oh, actually the line before the error might be it: addgroup: The group `input' already exists and is not a system group. Exiting.
[21:51] <sim642> would it be safe to delete the group and allow it to be recreated?
[21:51] <sim642> I guess so: https://askubuntu.com/a/614062
[21:52] <sim642> reconfiguring again seems to work
[21:52] <ppf> great!
[21:52] <sim642> Hopefully this is the only issue
[21:53] <YankDownUnder> sim642: Is this a desktop or a server - or a combo of both? Just wondering...
[21:54] <sim642> xubuntu desktop
[21:54] <YankDownUnder> sim642: Coolbeans. You have a backup plan in place for this machine?
[21:56] <sim642> Not really, this machine is a mess, it has been upgraded before with problems too to 14.04 from idk what
[21:57] <sim642> I should someday probably do a clean install to replace this
[21:57] <sim642> I had avoided upgrading it as long as possible to avoid potential upgrade problems :P
[21:57] <YankDownUnder> sim642: Safe to assume 12.04 to 14.04 and now to 16.04...?
[21:58] <theToolman> sim642: i agree. fresh image is always best
[21:58] <linuxwheels> sim642: if the machine is not critical I would clean install
[21:58] <sim642> YankDownUnder, no idea if from 12.04, possibly after that
[21:59] <theToolman> i hate doing release upgrades
[21:59] <sim642> linuxwheels, once I can be bothered to scrape stuff off of it that I still might find useful
[21:59] <theToolman> in all flavors
[21:59] <theToolman> especially rhel/cent
[21:59] <sim642> My question at this point is, if do-release-upgrade failed halfway through upgrading the packages
[21:59] <sim642> What will I have to do manually after I get them to successfully upgrade?
[21:59] <YankDownUnder> sim642: As "procedure" - for ME, and I can only speak IMHO, I *only* upgrade servers...desktops are always "fresh" installations...I do an audit on the workstation, obviously - for all the applications/data/bullsh*t - but fresh. Servers are truly a different kettle of fish...
[22:00] <theToolman> boot up to a live disk, copy your shtuff out and backed up
[22:00] <theToolman> then do your clean install
[22:00] <theToolman> and viola!
[22:00] <theToolman> rsync -avPl source/ destination/
[22:00] <theToolman> thats my goto backup scripte
[22:00] <sim642> theToolman, copy stuff out is easier said than done when there are configuration files all over the system
[22:01] <theToolman> well do you know what all you have configured?
[22:01] <theToolman> rsync -avPl /etc/ /backup/etc/
[22:01] <theToolman> and then run a diff on the /etc  of the new install
[22:01] <theToolman> my trick is, if i don't know that its configured, i don't need it
[22:02] <theToolman> *hystarical laughter*
[22:06] <YankDownUnder> theToolman: It's funny how many times one would install/configure something, then completely forget about it - because it's not in "normal" usage...and then find all this "cruft" laying about years later...scratching the head going "WTF *IS* this stuff?"....(found stuff on a server dating from 2007 that left me confused for a while)
[22:07] <rizonz> how can I extract the contents a folder from some zip to some folder ?
[22:07] <rizonz> unzip 'folder/*
[22:08] <sim642> the -f install completed finally :D
[22:08] <rizonz> unzip 'folder/* /tmp/zip.zip /path/to/here ?
[22:08] <theToolman> YankDownUnder: i've had that happen a few times. nothing a lil bit of good diag can't fix
[22:08] <theToolman> also helps you rethink why you did what you did
[22:08] <sim642> Is there anything else I'd need to do to this system other than reenabling apt sources I might still need?
[22:08] <theToolman> rizonz: cd /new_folder
[22:09] <theToolman> rizonz: unzip /path/to/zip.zip
[22:09] <YankDownUnder> theToolman: The "blessing" was it was nothing critical. Silly "window mangler customisation" that had nothing to do with production.
[22:10] <theToolman> YankDownUnder: i just rebuilt my linux firewall last weekend with some new hardware and some new layer 2 equipment. i was doing fine until i saw ntp errors in all the clients. darn ntpd didn't get installed and configured
[22:10] <theToolman> and i'm procrastinating that
[22:11] <YankDownUnder> theToolman: "Procrastinating" and "NTP" -> there's a joke in that, ya know...
[22:12] <theToolman> hahahahaha
[22:15] <rizonz> theToolman: no not that that
[22:17] <theToolman> i've seriously been copying data from one machine to another since yesterday
[22:18] <theToolman> who'da thought i had so much junk
[22:22] <IronDev> ppf: I created the install disk, give me one second to try what you said
[22:25] <theToolman> hey whats the best ntp server for me to sync my master with?
[22:25] <IronDev> ppf: Well, removing the DVD drive seemed to work out, but how do I prevent this from happening in the future
[22:26] <genii> the one closest to you
[22:26] <theToolman> please don't say 0.debian.pool.ntp.org
[22:27] <theToolman> i'm gonna use time.nist.gov
[22:28] <kul> hi the samba in my ubuntu is giving me an error can anyone help me fix this ? please
[22:28] <theToolman> kul: what kinda error?
[22:29] <theToolman> anyone ever see this? ->>  /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/avahi-autoipd returned non-zero exit status 1
[22:30] <kul> um
[22:30] <kul> hold on
[22:31] <kul> Apr 23 16:30:39 alarm-VirtualBox systemd[1]: Starting LSB: start Samba NetBIOS n Apr 23 16:30:39 alarm-VirtualBox nmbd[4303]:  * Starting NetBIOS name server nmb Apr 23 16:30:39 alarm-VirtualBox nmbd[4303]: invalid permissions on directory '/ Apr 23 16:30:39 alarm-VirtualBox nmbd[4303]: Failed to create /var/log/samba/cor Apr 23 16:30:39 alarm-VirtualBox nmbd[4303]: Unable to setup corepath for nmbd:  Apr 23 16:30:39 alarm-VirtualBox nmbd[
[22:31] <kul> does that help ?
[22:31] <theToolman> looks like a permissions problem
[22:32] <theToolman> kul: invalid permissions on directory '/
[22:33] <poco_>  Can anyone tell me why "echo "Rsync backup completed successfully on $(date) for $(hostname)" | mail -s "Daily WOPR Rsync Successful" EXAMPLE@gmail.com" Also tries sending emails to Daily@gmail.com, Rsync@gmail.com, Successful@gmail.com?
[22:37] <theToolman> poco_: your command looks fine to me
[22:38] <poco_> theToolman, yeah it works but it's trying to send an email to each word in my subject line @gmail.com
[22:39] <poco_> it sends it to EXAMPLE@gmail.com just fine but I don't want it to CC Daily@gmail.com. Also it's sending with (no subject)
[22:39] <theToolman> yeah thats weird because i'm seeing it to work how you thought it should
[22:39] <theToolman> is this running in cron?
[22:39] <poco_> theToolman, whoops, I added in the -s flag but didn't save the script
[22:39] <poco_> theToolman, it works now!
[22:39] <theToolman> lol
[22:40] <theToolman> ok
[22:40] <poco_> theToolman, thanks!
[22:43] <numb3r> join #pyton
[22:43] <kul> thetool i tried to put 777 permisson on it im still getting the error
[22:44] <filsuf> hallo hallo ... anybody uses freetuxtv? no problem with gtk3
[22:45] <theToolman> kul: what are you sharing and whats your client?
[22:46] <kul> im sharing an owncloud folder
[22:46] <theToolman> i am not sure what that is
[22:48] <kul> its just a folder in ubuntu. I tried sharing it by right clicking and clicking local network share i get an error of 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running.
[22:49] <kul> thats probably because samba fails to start
[22:49] <theToolman> is this in windows?
[22:49] <kul> no ubuntu
[22:49] <kul> i use the command sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart to start samba
[22:50] <theToolman> and do your syslogs say anything?
[22:50] <theToolman> journalctl -f
[22:50] <theToolman> while you do it in anothe window
[22:51] <YankDownUnder> sudo systemctl status samba
[22:51] <kul> nmbd.service: Unit entered failed state. Apr 23 16:46:43 alarm-VirtualBox systemd[1]: nmbd.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Apr 23 16:46:43 alarm-VirtualBox sudo[4525]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root Apr 23 16:48:04 alarm-VirtualBox gnome-session[3316]: Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transie Apr 23 16:48:31 alarm-VirtualBox sudo[4597]:     root : TTY=pts/4 ; PWD=/home/alarm ; USER=root ; COM Apr 23 16
[22:51] <kul> aorry
[22:51] <kul> sorry
[22:51] <kul> that was journalctl -xe
[22:52] <kul> Failed to start LSB: start Samba NetBIOS nameserver (nmbd). Apr 23 16:46:43 alarm-VirtualBox systemd[1]: nmbd.service: Unit entered failed state. Apr 23 16:46:43 alarm-VirtualBox systemd[1]: nmbd.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Apr 23 16:46:43 alarm-VirtualBox sudo[4525]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root Apr 23 16:48:04 alarm-VirtualBox gnome-session[3316]: Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient pare
[22:52] <kul> can i post pics here?
[22:52] <tomreyn> !paste | kul
[22:53] <Lupus> Hello guys! Can you help me with something? I want to install a patch for shellinabox. I want to white-on-black style, but I don't know how to install that patch... https://code.google.com/archive/p/shellinabox/issues/24
[22:53] <kul> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24444454/
[22:53] <skinux> What is the latest email client? I believe Thunderbird is out-dated and not supported.
[22:54] <YankDownUnder> kul: How is Virtualbox connected with the situation you're having - I'm just wondering...
[22:54] <Lupus> Can you help me guys?
[22:54] <kul> im just running ubuntu inside the virtualbox
[22:54] <kul> virtual box is running on windows
[22:55] <theToolman> so you're trying to share with your windows?
[22:55] <YankDownUnder> kul: Right. So Ubu is inside a VM...and you're running VB on a Windows host. And you're wanting to "share" something in between the Windows host and the Ubuntu guest, yes?
[22:56] <kul> yes
[22:56] <YankDownUnder> kul: Simpler way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/SharedFolders
[22:57] <kul> i want to share a folder in ubuntu with windows
[22:57] <kul> not the other way around
[22:57] <kul> if that makes sense
[22:58] <Lupus> YankDownUnder, can you help me?
[22:58] <tomreyn> Lupus:  why not use the custom style sheet approach?
[22:58] <YankDownUnder> kul: Then you want to double check the network settings for the VM, double check (triple check) that Samba is setup and configured correctly in the VM (Ubuntu), make sure that the Samba service in the VM is not conflicting with the VB extentions (as it would appear they were), turn off the firewall in Ubuntu (not really needed) and try again...
[22:58] <Lupus> How?
[22:58] <Lupus> tomreyn, how?
[22:58] <Lupus> I can't apply them.
[22:59] <tomreyn> Lupus: the way the last comment on the bug tracker you linked to suggests
[22:59] <Lupus> ?
[23:00] <Lupus> shellinaboxd --user-css and?
[23:00] <kul> how do i check that samba setup is configured correctly
[23:01] <YankDownUnder> kul: Here's somethign to read through: https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/samba-server-ubuntu-16-04/
[23:01] <tomreyn> Lupus: then you supply a custom CSS file
[23:02] <Lupus> Yeah.
[23:02] <Lupus> I tried..
[23:02] <Lupus> But I don't have interent now.
[23:02] <kul> ok thanks ill take a look
[23:02] <Lupus> I don't know why I wasn't disconnected.
[23:02] <Lupus> :|
[23:02] <Lupus> Can you see my messages?
[23:02] <YankDownUnder> kul: And this: http://computerbeginnersguides.com/blog/2016/05/26/install-and-configure-samba-file-sharing-in-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus/
[23:02] <tomreyn> Lupus: yes we can read you
[23:02] <platz> so I deleted all my kernels by accident, then via live-usb reinstalled linux-image-generic and linux-image-extra so I can boot back into ubuntu again, but now wifi drivers are not detected and startx fails with 'no screens' (reinstalled nvidia-375 too). any ideas?
[23:03] <Lupus> Okay.. I DON'T HAVE INTERNET!
[23:03] <Lupus> Skype, no internet, browser too.
[23:03] <Lupus> What!?
[23:03] <Lupus> How is that possible?
[23:03] <wedgie> Lupus: how is it possible that you are talking to us with no internet?
[23:03] <Lupus> I don't know....
[23:03] <Lupus> What the...
[23:04] <Lupus> Wait.
[23:04] <YankDownUnder> (Alien Microwave Energy)
[23:04] <Lupus> I'll take a screenshot.
[23:08] <kul> !paste
[23:10] <kul> Yank http://paste.ubuntu.com/24444504/ i get this error when installing the smb from your first link
[23:11] <platz> how do i reinstall wifi drivers when they are not detected?
[23:11] <kul> is there something where i can completly remove samba from ubuntu and re install it back in
[23:11] <YankDownUnder> kul: Open a terminal. Run the following: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install ==> tell me what happens, eh?
[23:11] <kul> ok
[23:12] <orlock> I'm having an odd problem on both 14.04.2 LTS and 17.04 where my desktop becomes unresponsive after a minute or two
[23:12] <YankDownUnder> orlock: Can you get to tty1?
[23:12] <orlock> YankDownUnder: Yes, but not after it locks up
[23:12] <orlock> and if i do so, it seems to prevent the lockup from occuring
[23:12] <YankDownUnder> orlock: So it completely LOCKS - end of story, eh?
[23:13] <orlock> i did that, did an apt-get update, etc, still occurs with updated 14.04lts
[23:13] <zhanx> orlock: check your ram brother
[23:13] <orlock> YankDownUnder: mouse moves, desktop is non responsive
[23:13] <orlock> zhanx: win7 has never shown a hiccup
[23:13] <kul> '!paste
[23:13] <kul> !paste
[23:13] <orlock> it's a Dell E6420 i7 laptop
[23:14] <kul> Yank http://paste.ubuntu.com/24444519/
[23:14] <orlock> zhanx: i've spent something like 6 hours over the weekend trying to get linux working on a computer
[23:14] <YankDownUnder> orlock: Something to consider - as a test, disable any screamsavers (screensaver), check the energy/power settings - make even a minor change - doesn't matter - or disable them...check the BIOS settings for any "sleep" configuration(s) for the HDD's...
[23:14] <orlock> YankDownUnder: Cheers, will give it a try
[23:15] <orlock> you suspect ACPI related issues?
[23:15] <zhanx> i think its the desktop enviroment
[23:15] <YankDownUnder> kul: Firstly, get rid of the "deadsnakes" PPA...secondly, now that you've done that, do: sudo dpkg --reconfigure samba
[23:16] <orlock> It's weird, i've got a stack of systems. Can't get linux working reliably on one
[23:16] <YankDownUnder> orlock: Could be ACPI or the desktop (graphics driver?)(overload on the GPU?) => as well, is the machine running a bit "hot"? Could be that the GPU/CPU are overheating a bit...either which, things to check out...
[23:17] <zhanx> orlock you know how to list running processing to see which is taking all the fun out of it?
[23:17] <orlock> Nah, not hot, it's not doing anything
[23:17] <orlock> zhanx: when it locks, there's nothing i can do
[23:17] <YankDownUnder> orlock: "Stack of systems" - plus "can't get linux running reliably on one" => possible P.E.B.C.A.K. error? :)
[23:18] <kul> Yank for the sudo dpkg --reconfigure samba <-- what am i suppose to put for reconfigure samba
[23:18] <YankDownUnder> orlock: Ok...on both systems - the 14.04 and the 17.04, why not completley disable the power manager and see if that has an impact on the situation - along with disabling screensavers and all that lovely jazz...something to test...something to "take a first step" with, eh?
[23:18] <zhanx> orlock you can run htop in a terminal to watch it
[23:18] <kul> cause when i enter that command i get a list of dpkg commands to input
[23:18] <YankDownUnder> kul: Just that.
[23:19] <zhanx> sudo apt-get install htop and then htop
[23:19] <YankDownUnder> kul: Sorry...hang on a tick
[23:19] <kul> ok
[23:19] <kul> np
[23:19] <orlock> Ok, disabled some stuff in the bios. I doubt it would be screensaver, as it's never been idle for it to kick in
[23:20] <zhanx> orlock: hit me up in robotics if you still got issues in a bit
[23:20] <orlock> zhanx: yup
[23:20] <orlock> It's just such a stupid problem
[23:20] <orlock> i havent had to deal with this sort of stuff in 20 years or so
[23:21] <YankDownUnder> kul: sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force samba
[23:22] <kul> ok
[23:22] <kul> YankDownUnder http://paste.ubuntu.com/24444554/
[23:23] <orlock> YankDownUnder: Where abouts down under are you?
[23:23] <mcphail> orlock: does the i8kutils package help you? It adds temp sensors and fan control for some dell laptops
[23:24] <YankDownUnder> kul: Far out, bro...right...well, something to consider - removing samba and rebooting the VM and starting again, eh?
[23:24] <orlock> mcphail: Pretty sure it's not related to the environment/temperature
[23:24] <YankDownUnder> orlock: Outside of Sydney
[23:24] <kul> yes
[23:25] <kul> how would i completly remove samba
[23:25] <YankDownUnder> kul: Did this every work BEFORE?
[23:25] <orlock> YankDownUnder: sunny melbun here
[23:25] <kul> yes
[23:25] <kul> it worked
[23:25] <YankDownUnder> kul: sudo apt-get remove samba
[23:25] <kul> and i did something and it stopped working
[23:25] <kul> ok
[23:25] <orlock> Since i disabled some power settings in the bios it seems stable
[23:26] <YankDownUnder> orlock: Mexico. Right oh. Yo hablo Espanol poquito...(ha...yeah...freezing cold down there...)
[23:26] <orlock> Well, it hasnt locked up _yet_
[23:26] <kul> ok ill reboot it now
[23:26] <YankDownUnder> orlock: Going to take a trip to St. Kilde sometime in the next few months...then down yonder to Port Fairy and the beginning of the Great Ocean Road...for giggles and grins.
[23:27] <orlock> YankDownUnder: If i was coming down from Syd to Melb to go sight seeing, i dont know if St Kilda is where i'd go, unless i had some very specific tastes...
[23:27] <kul> ok Yank and to install samba back the command is ?
[23:27] <orlock> YankDownUnder: and if that was your thing, you have Kings Cross in sydney...
[23:28] <YankDownUnder> orlock: Got mates down there...and Kilsyth, too...and NO that's not my thing...there's a kite shop in Port Fairy I have to pop in to check out...
[23:28] <ruby32_> Does anyone here use Lubuntu as their daily driver?
[23:29] <orlock> YankDownUnder: Ahh, ok. I drive through Kilsyth on the way to work - i live in the foothills of the ranges
[23:30] <YankDownUnder> orlock: Did some hiking up through the Dande's...don't mind it...(cold cold cold cold)
[23:30] <YankDownUnder> ..meanwhile, back at the ranch...
[23:30] <kul> YankDownUnder: to re install samba which command would i use
[23:31] <YankDownUnder> kul: First, do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt -y autoremove && sudo apt -y autoclean =>>> after that, do: sudo apt-get -y install samba
[23:31] <kul> ok
[23:33] <kul> damn it another error! http://paste.ubuntu.com/24444605/ :(
[23:33] <bumblefuzz> so, I need a little help installing my graphics card(s)
[23:34] <bumblefuzz> lspci | grep VGA http://paste.ubuntu.com/24444606/
[23:34] <bumblefuzz> lsmod | grep video http://paste.ubuntu.com/24444609/
[23:35] <YankDownUnder> kul: Something's not right - Virtualbox appears to be "colliding" with the installation...here's a question, did you install the "Guest Additions" into this VM yet?
[23:35] <kul> yes
[23:35] <kul> should i remove it
[23:36] <YankDownUnder> kul: Nah - don't reckon so...just was wondering...that being said, this might be something to take into the #vbox channel, bro...
[23:37] <ritztech> anyone know about doing a dd  to convert to vmdk image on a live system
[23:37] <orlock> ritztech: from a physical system?
[23:37] <ritztech> ya
[23:37] <orlock> ritztech: you want p2v
[23:37] <kul> ok
[23:37] <orlock> there's a vmware tool that will do it for you in a straight forwards way
[23:37] <ritztech> i tried it for 4 hours and i did nc and reciever but it seemed to show operation system not found
[23:38] <IronDev> I just installed AMD Graphics drivers
[23:38] <orlock> ritztech: p2v = physical to virtual, there's migration tools that make it very very simple
[23:38] <IronDev> and for some reason I'm getting a menu
[23:38] <ritztech> dd if=/dev/sdb conv=noerror,sync bs=16M | nc -q 4 10.10.10.10 8194
[23:38] <kul> wait before i go, do i have to use smb? can i use ntfs to share the drive
[23:38] <ritztech> and then i had my nc reciever pick it up
[23:38] <Redfoxmoon> Is there anything to do about the menus being broken when xforwarding GTK3 apps from ubuntu 17.04?
[23:38] <IronDev> telling me to run default graphics, reconfig graphics return to console, and exit
[23:38] <IronDev> What should I do?
[23:38] <ritztech> wellllllll actually its more v2v lol
[23:39] <YankDownUnder> kul: NTFS? That's a file system...not a network protocol.
[23:39] <kul> o
[23:39] <kul> ok
[23:39] <YankDownUnder> kul: The "shared folder" setup *does* allow for two-way sharing, you know...and it's already part of the Virtualbox setup...hmm...
[23:40] <kul> i used that but i need to change the owner to www-data
[23:40] <kul> if i can do that i would be able to use it
[23:40] <ritztech> and then i did a nc reciever i got my 30gb file took 4 hrs but then i imported it into vmware fusion and it says no operiting system found
[23:40] <ritztech> qemu-img convert -pO vmdk host.img  virthost.vmdk
[23:40] <IronDev> First thing my error says is the system is running in low-graphics mode
[23:41] <ritztech> but im not sure if i were supposed to get  the main physical volume /dev/sdb
[23:41] <YankDownUnder> kul: Er...hmm...
[23:41] <ritztech> or each indepeedent partition
[23:41] <ritztech> or would i have to dd of instaed of if
[23:42] <bumblefuzz> how do I install/enable the AMD kernel module?
[23:43] <kul> YankDownUnder: can i create a folder inside the shared folders and change the owner to www-data
[23:43] <kul> of just that folder
[23:43] <bumblefuzz> the driver is installed
[23:43] <bumblefuzz> I can see it
[23:43] <bumblefuzz> but lsmod doesn't indicate the correct kernel module
[23:43] <YankDownUnder> kul: Should be able to do so - IF the user "www-data" exists
[23:43] <kul> it does
[23:43] <kul> ill try it out
[23:45] <kul> YankDownUnder: to change the owner is this the right command: chown -R www-data:www-data /media/sf_owncloud/ocdata
[23:47] <tonyt> every time i reboot i have to unplug and plug back in a usb hard drive. is there a way to fix that?
[23:47] <YankDownUnder> kul: Without knowing your setup/configuration (and what you're doing) - that would be about right...but, again, I stress DOUBLE CHECK EVERYTHING...even write down a list if necessary...and then question yourself about process/procedure...(Plan the work, work the plan) know what I mean?
[23:48] <kul> ok i know what you mean
[23:49] <YankDownUnder> kul: When you're involved in setting up something "complex", it helps. And it keeps things very OBVIOUS in your mind.
[23:57] <kul> ok thank you for your help YankDownUnder ill try it out