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lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:36
lotuspsychjehi jaythelinuxguy04:40
lotuspsychjehttps://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/4/getting-know-gnome-unity-perspective04:41
immuducasse: hi05:17
lotuspsychjelol05:18
immulotuspsychje: what? happened?05:18
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lotuspsychjejesus that guy Ben64 ...05:45
Ben64right?05:45
immuBen64: whats up with lotuspsychje?06:01
lotuspsychjeim here, ask me?06:03
ducassegood morning, all06:13
lotuspsychjehey ducasse06:13
ducassewhat's up, lotuspsychje? :)06:13
lotuspsychjewelcome to n00b hell :p06:13
lotuspsychjethat lupus guy is asking like an hour howto tinstall libssh06:14
lotuspsychjeto have his friend make an ssh bruteforce scanner lol06:14
ducasseoh, dear...06:15
immuducasse: hi06:27
ducasse\o06:28
immuducasse: has blues come up ? or hes sleep in la la land07:29
ducassehe won't be here for several hours yet.07:36
immuducasse: oke07:37
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:29
ducasse\o BluesKaj10:29
BluesKajHi ducasse, how goes it today?10:30
ducassepretty quiet so far. immu was asking for you this morning, three hours ago.10:33
BluesKajheh, I was asleep10:33
immuhey BluesKaj ducasse running kubuntu now :) anyways to make fonts look like ubuntu10:34
BluesKajguess he thinks I'm in Europe10:34
immuBluesKaj: ducasse tea or coffee in the mornings? prefered?10:34
BluesKajimmu, make fonts that are readable10:35
ducasseimmu: again, this isn't a support channel. try #ubuntu10:35
ducasseimmu: you get a much better chance of getting someone who can answer your question properly.10:36
immuok10:36
immulet me ask their10:37
immuBluesKaj: yeah just like ubuntu nice and crips ultra smooth10:38
WirehunterHey12:42
EriC^^hey Wirehunter12:52
lotuspsychjegood afternoon guys13:08
EriC^^afternoon lotuspsychje13:09
lotuspsychjehey EriC^^ how are you?13:09
EriC^^good, thanks, you?13:10
lotuspsychjeall fine here, 4 days off13:10
EriC^^nice13:10
lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/budgie-10-3-features-ubuntu-ppa13:17
lotuspsychjehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland13:27
lotuspsychjeanyone feels inventing a new !wayland trigger?13:27
lotuspsychje!wayland13:27
ubot5Wayland is a display server protocol that is intended to replace X. More information can be found at http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ . Ubuntu is instead focusing on development of !Mir; see its factoid for more information.13:27
lotuspsychjeX11 getting limited for the future heh13:30
EriC^^yup13:31
EriC^^good thing i never understood how it works much, haha13:31
lotuspsychjelol13:32
ducasseit will be some time yet before x11 is all gone, i think13:33
lotuspsychjeWayland is a display server protocol that is intended to replace X. More information can be found at http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland13:34
EriC^^17.10 is getting wayland with optional xorg13:34
lotuspsychjewhat you think of this?13:34
lotuspsychjeYour edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail13:38
ducasseyay, lotus :)13:45
lotuspsychje:p13:46
* ducasse still kind of likes x, even with all it's problems13:48
lotuspsychjeyeah13:48
BluesKajhi EriC^^ , lotuspsychje14:21
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj14:21
BluesKajunfortunately nvidia doesn't support wayland from what I've seen so far on some of the linux chats14:23
BluesKajand forums14:23
lotuspsychjealot of bugs will flow in for sure14:24
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: so fedora with wayland cant run nvidia?14:25
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BluesKajlotuspsychje, that's what i've heard, but i tried fedora 25 on my laptop whith intel graphics, very smooth and polished but it was still gnome , not my style14:31
immu_BluesKaj: lol14:31
BluesKajdunno why nvidia is holding out, perhaps it's up to the community now14:33
lotuspsychjeits gonna be such a mess14:34
lotuspsychjehi Menzador14:47
MenzadorYo14:47
EriC^^hi BluesKaj14:51
lotuspsychjehey brunch87514:53
brunch875heya lotuspsychje :)14:53
brunch875I just discovered the secret to productivity14:54
lotuspsychjebrunch875: share with us14:54
brunch875with this one weird trickĀ®14:54
brunch875it's easy14:54
brunch875more coffee14:54
lotuspsychjelol14:54
brunch875_______more_______coffee___________14:54
brunch875moar14:55
brunch875The ubuntu-phone mailing list went silent14:59
lotuspsychjeouch14:59
brunch875I wonder if that's the end of it :/14:59
lotuspsychjebrunch875: you seen the #ubports channel grow?14:59
brunch875#ubports channel?14:59
brunch875oh maybe everyone moved!14:59
lotuspsychjepoll: will the project die silent, or will they invent some worldwide breakthrough15:00
* lotuspsychje hopes for the last15:00
MenzadorYunit :P15:01
brunch875migrate to wayland, snaps, android application support, lifecycle reworked15:02
lotuspsychjeits gonna be wayland ontop or mir right?15:02
brunch875wayland is just a protocol, right?15:03
brunch875implement mirston :p15:03
lotuspsychje!wayland15:03
ubot5Wayland is a display server protocol that is intended to replace X. More information can be found at http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ . Ubuntu is instead focusing on development of !Mir; see its factoid for more information.15:03
brunch875feel like red hat is too big and enforcing too much15:04
lotuspsychjebrunch875: you think the pressure on ubuntu comes from them?15:05
brunch875doesn't it?15:05
BluesKajthat's a bit old , and mir is no longer in th picture in 18.04 on ubuntu according to most reports15:05
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: yeah ive requested a new factoid15:05
brunch875gnome, wayland, systemd, SELinux... doesn't that circle around RH?15:06
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland15:06
brunch875oh, and flatpak15:06
* brunch875 crosses fingers for snappy15:06
BluesKajlotuspsychje, yeah I'm there15:06
brunch875could we at least get one thing, please?15:06
lotuspsychjewar of the linuxes15:06
brunch875I tried out flatpak now that I'm checking out fedora15:06
brunch875and it's... ugly to use15:07
brunch875you have to launch programs through the flatpak executable instead of having a path for the packages15:07
brunch875that enough is enough for me15:07
lotuspsychjeyikes15:07
lotuspsychjebbl movietime15:10
MenzadorLol, wat iz an movee15:10
Menzador(I don't like full-length features)15:11
brunch875what?15:12
immu_https://www.change.org/p/canonical-ltd-make-kde-plasma-the-default-desktop-for-ubuntu-18-04-instead-of-gnome-shell?recruiter=216480136&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink15:40
brunch875I think this is a good idea15:44
brunch875this could help KDE signifficantly15:45
ducassewill never happen, imho.15:48
brunch875why not?15:49
immu_brunch875: Gnome is the way forward,  as its already baby sitted by Fedora and others :) so Ubuntu, just have to microwave it and give it to others15:50
immu_got it15:50
brunch875that's pretty much "KDE, NOBODY LIKES YOU"15:51
ducassei don't think they will embrace kde after that kubuntu brouhaha a while back.15:51
brunch875ducasse, what did I miss?15:51
immu_major developer resources will get freed up15:52
ducassethe kubuntu lead was bullied into oblivion, and then "asked" to resign.15:52
brunch875damn...15:54
ducasseso no, i don't think they're going to suddenly show kde some love now.15:55
ducassepersonally, i don't really care. i wouldn't run either gnome nor kde no matter which one is the default. and anyone who wants plasma can just install kubuntu.15:57
brunch875ducasse, what will you be running?15:58
ducassei've been perfectly happy with i3 for a long time now, and when i move to wayland i'll be running sway.16:03
ducassethe various desktops are all right, i just don't _need_ them :)16:05
brunch875hmmmph I'm checking out an i3 video and I don't like how it uses alt+key shortcuts16:10
brunch875most applications have these already bound16:11
ducasseon first startup it asks if you want alt or super ('windows key') for modifier, but you can use any modifier. i use super, works fine.16:12
ducassealt clashes with a lot, that's right.16:12
Bashing-omHere we go again - Happy to be here \o/17:27
ducassewb Bashing-om :)17:45
EriC^^hey Bashing-om :)17:49
brunch875Heyo baizon :)17:53
brunch875err Bashing-om17:53
baizonhehe17:56
Bashing-omHey all -- ducasse EriC^^ brunch875  and not least is baizon ; Make it a good day in our neighborhood .17:58
immuBluesKaj:  ducasse EriC^^ hi all, checking in from Manjaro KDE18:13
EriC^^hey immu18:13
immuEriC^^: how di buddy18:14
immuEriC^^:  you didn't like manjaro right?18:15
EriC^^never tried it18:16
ducasseimmu: no, that was me18:16
EriC^^pretty curious though18:16
immuducasse: oke yeah, eric EriC^^ what intriged you ?18:16
immuwhats up? why the silence? eh?18:21
brunch875_immu, http://0x0.st/3XJ.mp418:42
immubrunch875_: so every one is bird watching18:56
immuducasse: BluesKaj EriC^^ is every one awake?19:21
EriC^^hey, yeah :D19:21
Bashing-omWon't speak for others immu - but, I only rouse up when the bait attractes me .19:24
immuoke19:25
immuEriC^^: whats up, why is every one so quiet, are all bird watching?19:40
EriC^^hehe, yeah it's so and so here usually :D19:58
immuhmm20:00
immuok good nite all see you in the mornings20:00
immuyeah20:00
immubyeee20:00
brunch875gn!20:00
immugn! all20:00
immuEriC^^:  BluesKaj ducasse good nite20:02
Bashing-om16.04 new kernel is out : Setting up linux-image-generic (4.4.0.75.81) .23:26

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