| superfly | o/ | 03:46 |
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| inetpro | good mornings | 06:12 |
| inetpro | oh and hi superfly as well | 06:12 |
| nsnzero | morning inetpro and everyone else | 06:15 |
| theblazehen | Hi superfly, inetpro, nsnzero and others | 07:04 |
| nsnzero | morning theblazehen | 07:08 |
| nsnzero | i dont think virtual box supports adding of a physical hdd | 07:17 |
| MaNI | through the UI I think not, it might be possible via command line | 07:18 |
| MaNI | most of these virt systems can do a bunch of stuff that isn't in the UI - UI only handles common cases | 07:18 |
| nsnzero | morning MaNI | 07:24 |
| nsnzero | that is correct mani - its a command line only procedure | 07:25 |
| nsnzero | but i added it as a shared folder - lets try that out | 07:26 |
| theblazehen | It "just works" in kvm :) | 07:42 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero: Can't you add say /dev/sdb as a raw disk image ? | 07:43 |
| andrewlsd | o/ mornings all. | 07:57 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: afaik with VirtualBox you create a virtual disk that basically contains a reference to the physical disk | 07:58 |
| theblazehen | hi andrewlsd. Right I remember that now | 07:58 |
| andrewlsd | the nice thing about that, is that you can limit the partitions the VM is aware of | 07:58 |
| theblazehen | I used that when I used windows for the gpu driver support, and ran everything with a windows X server and linux in a virtualbox vm using the X server on windows. Fun fact: Xming even supports opengl | 07:59 |
| andrewlsd | but you stilll have the danger that VM user will go, "Oh, we have lots of free drive space" and expand the partition/filesystem in the guest causing some horrendous problems | 07:59 |
| theblazehen | Performance was decent | 07:59 |
| theblazehen | I might even say better for some applications than linux directly | 08:00 |
| * chesedo just decided to view the source of this page ->http://www.dirco.gov.za/ ... /me now torn between laughing and crying | 08:55 | |
| MaNI | just embrace it and do both | 08:58 |
| MaNI | urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office - I lied, pour acid on your eyes quickly | 08:59 |
| chesedo | MaNI: it gets worse below... | 08:59 |
| chesedo | css link points to a hard-drive a few lines futher... | 09:00 |
| chesedo | head gets closed, then a new body opens... | 09:01 |
| chesedo | later a new body opens again in a table... | 09:01 |
| MaNI | fun times | 09:02 |
| MaNI | This site is best viewed using 800 x 600 resolution with Internet Explorer 5.0 | 09:02 |
| chesedo | then the final kicker... scroll to the bottom and read... yeah that ^ | 09:03 |
| MaNI | favicon also has white blurs around it | 09:03 |
| theblazehen | I just saw https://postoffice.co.za/ doesn't have a trusted cert... | 09:06 |
| theblazehen | It is signed by a CA. That isn't trusted in browsers by default... | 09:06 |
| MaNI | on the plus side at least they have kept the same site since 2003, and haven't paid some webdev firm millions to do a new one (thats just a 5 minute wordpress job) | 09:07 |
| chesedo | lol, wonder how many chrome and firefox users know how to get past that warning | 09:10 |
| chesedo | MaNI: then i also wonder how much they pay who ever to update that thing | 09:10 |
| chesedo | for something created in 2003, it makes 94 requests and downloads a total of 2.4Mb | 09:13 |
| * theblazehen debates breaking in and getting them a lets encrypt cert :p | 09:13 | |
| theblazehen | Seriously, why does the post office need to run their own CA? | 09:15 |
| chesedo | theblazehen: be carefull, they might think that error means it is already hacked!! | 09:16 |
| theblazehen | chesedo: heh | 09:16 |
| theblazehen | <input name="txtItemID" type="text" value="'"*)(\n\r\'\"" id="txtItemID" onkeydown="this.value=this.value.replace('<','');this.value=this.value.replace('>','')" style="width:400px;" /> | 09:18 |
| theblazehen | You have *got* to be kidding me | 09:18 |
| * chesedo rofl | 09:19 | |
| MaNI | why are good sata cables so hard to find, this is the third time I've had a sata cable issue now | 10:05 |
| theblazehen | MaNI: Where are you getting your cables? Mine work fine almost always | 10:14 |
| MaNI | can't remember where I got this last set from, might have been wootware or takealot | 10:14 |
| theblazehen | IIRC got some from wootware that sucked, but cables that I got with motherboard / SSDs etc have been fine | 10:15 |
| MaNI | keep getting: | 10:15 |
| MaNI | [141247.183982] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x10000000 SErr 0x90202 action 0xe frozen | 10:15 |
| MaNI | [141247.183993] ata2: hard resetting link | 10:15 |
| MaNI | which I'm pretty sure is caused by a bad cable and not my actual sata controller | 10:15 |
| MaNI | I specifically got these expensive ones at some point, because I had cheap ones before and after spending ages tracking down what I thought was an xfs bug it turned out to be the cable | 10:16 |
| theblazehen | Ah, yeah. IIRC I had that when one cable was a bit too close to GPU, and chance it's something like that? | 10:17 |
| MaNI | this case is big and has those routing holes so doesn't go near any cards, I suppose theres a chance that all the power cables for the drives are interfering though | 10:17 |
| MaNI | still that means the SATA cable has junk shielding then I guess - I mean that shouldn't be a thing | 10:18 |
| MaNI | cable for the problem drive does indeed run much closer to the power supply cables than the other sata cables that don't have issues | 10:19 |
| theblazehen | https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/a/2063 nice | 10:20 |
| MaNI | guess I'll try route it through a higher up hole and see what happens | 10:20 |
| theblazehen | Yeah. How long does it take to reset the link? | 10:21 |
| MaNI | seems to be roughly every 30 minutes or so | 10:22 |
| theblazehen | And how long does IO block then? Eg, is it actually causing an issue when you're using your pc? | 10:23 |
| MaNI | nope, comes back almost immediately | 10:24 |
| MaNI | just don't like the power cycling noise I'm hearing from the drive | 10:24 |
| theblazehen | Ah. Heh. I don't really notice it. Can't even hear any hard drives over noise from server :p | 10:25 |
| theblazehen | http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html | 11:34 |
| nsnzero | have a good afternoon everyone | 12:31 |
| nsnzero | evening all | 17:31 |
| theblazehen | hi nsnzero | 17:59 |
| nsnzero | evening theblazehen | 17:59 |
| nsnzero | how are you doing ? | 17:59 |
| theblazehen | good ty, and you nsnzero? | 18:12 |
| nsnzero | its cold today | 18:17 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 18:19 |
| nsnzero | going to bed early tonight | 18:29 |
| nsnzero | have a good night all | 18:29 |
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