[03:46] o/ [06:12] good mornings [06:12] oh and hi superfly as well [06:15] morning inetpro and everyone else [07:04] Hi superfly, inetpro, nsnzero and others [07:08] morning theblazehen [07:17] i dont think virtual box supports adding of a physical hdd [07:18] through the UI I think not, it might be possible via command line [07:18] most of these virt systems can do a bunch of stuff that isn't in the UI - UI only handles common cases [07:24] morning MaNI [07:25] that is correct mani - its a command line only procedure [07:26] but i added it as a shared folder - lets try that out [07:42] It "just works" in kvm :) [07:43] nsnzero: Can't you add say /dev/sdb as a raw disk image ? [07:57] o/ mornings all. [07:58] theblazehen: afaik with VirtualBox you create a virtual disk that basically contains a reference to the physical disk [07:58] hi andrewlsd. Right I remember that now [07:58] the nice thing about that, is that you can limit the partitions the VM is aware of [07:59] I used that when I used windows for the gpu driver support, and ran everything with a windows X server and linux in a virtualbox vm using the X server on windows. Fun fact: Xming even supports opengl [07:59] but you stilll have the danger that VM user will go, "Oh, we have lots of free drive space" and expand the partition/filesystem in the guest causing some horrendous problems [07:59] Performance was decent [08:00] I might even say better for some applications than linux directly [08:55] * chesedo just decided to view the source of this page ->http://www.dirco.gov.za/ ... /me now torn between laughing and crying [08:58] just embrace it and do both [08:59] urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office - I lied, pour acid on your eyes quickly [08:59] MaNI: it gets worse below... [09:00] css link points to a hard-drive a few lines futher... [09:01] head gets closed, then a new body opens... [09:01] later a new body opens again in a table... [09:02] fun times [09:02] This site is best viewed using 800 x 600 resolution with Internet Explorer 5.0 [09:03] then the final kicker... scroll to the bottom and read... yeah that ^ [09:03] favicon also has white blurs around it [09:06] I just saw https://postoffice.co.za/ doesn't have a trusted cert... [09:06] It is signed by a CA. That isn't trusted in browsers by default... [09:07] on the plus side at least they have kept the same site since 2003, and haven't paid some webdev firm millions to do a new one (thats just a 5 minute wordpress job) [09:10] lol, wonder how many chrome and firefox users know how to get past that warning [09:10] MaNI: then i also wonder how much they pay who ever to update that thing [09:13] for something created in 2003, it makes 94 requests and downloads a total of 2.4Mb [09:13] * theblazehen debates breaking in and getting them a lets encrypt cert :p [09:15] Seriously, why does the post office need to run their own CA? [09:16] theblazehen: be carefull, they might think that error means it is already hacked!! [09:16] chesedo: heh [09:18] [09:18] You have *got* to be kidding me [09:19] * chesedo rofl [10:05] why are good sata cables so hard to find, this is the third time I've had a sata cable issue now [10:14] MaNI: Where are you getting your cables? Mine work fine almost always [10:14] can't remember where I got this last set from, might have been wootware or takealot [10:15] IIRC got some from wootware that sucked, but cables that I got with motherboard / SSDs etc have been fine [10:15] keep getting: [10:15] [141247.183982] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x10000000 SErr 0x90202 action 0xe frozen [10:15] [141247.183993] ata2: hard resetting link [10:15] which I'm pretty sure is caused by a bad cable and not my actual sata controller [10:16] I specifically got these expensive ones at some point, because I had cheap ones before and after spending ages tracking down what I thought was an xfs bug it turned out to be the cable [10:17] Ah, yeah. IIRC I had that when one cable was a bit too close to GPU, and chance it's something like that? [10:17] this case is big and has those routing holes so doesn't go near any cards, I suppose theres a chance that all the power cables for the drives are interfering though [10:18] still that means the SATA cable has junk shielding then I guess - I mean that shouldn't be a thing [10:19] cable for the problem drive does indeed run much closer to the power supply cables than the other sata cables that don't have issues [10:20] https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/a/2063 nice [10:20] guess I'll try route it through a higher up hole and see what happens [10:21] Yeah. How long does it take to reset the link? [10:22] seems to be roughly every 30 minutes or so [10:23] And how long does IO block then? Eg, is it actually causing an issue when you're using your pc? [10:24] nope, comes back almost immediately [10:24] just don't like the power cycling noise I'm hearing from the drive [10:25] Ah. Heh. I don't really notice it. Can't even hear any hard drives over noise from server :p [11:34] http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html [12:31] have a good afternoon everyone [17:31] evening all [17:59] hi nsnzero [17:59] evening theblazehen [17:59] how are you doing ? [18:12] good ty, and you nsnzero? [18:17] its cold today [18:19] yeah [18:29] going to bed early tonight [18:29] have a good night all