[01:56] <diddledan> interesting: https://www.thurrott.com/windows/109962/windows-bloated-thanks-adobes-extensible-metadata-platform
[01:57] <daftykins> wowzer
[01:57] <daftykins> diddledan: i tried to swap SSD and reinstall macOS sierra on an old mid 2010 iMac today
[01:57] <diddledan> how did it go?
[01:57] <daftykins> sucker just fails at boot with the kinda no entry icon :/
[01:57] <diddledan> aww
[01:57] <diddledan> hold down R on power-up
[01:58] <daftykins> pirate mode ;)
[01:58] <diddledan> yarr
[01:58] <daftykins> was that one that boots off the recovery partition or something built into the SMC o0
[01:58] <diddledan> that should load the internet-recovery
[01:58] <daftykins> or EFI
[01:58] <daftykins> ah well i was installing from a made up flash drive of Sierra
[01:59] <daftykins> i actually had this when i fitted the first SSD back with 10.6, in the end i had to clone the spinning rust to it for it to work
[01:59] <daftykins> might end up in a similar situation
[01:59] <diddledan> :-(
[01:59] <daftykins> it's weird because if i boot the flash drive again, the SSD looks fine from disk utility
[01:59] <diddledan> odd
[01:59] <daftykins> btw free Carl Sagan \o/ www.twitch.tv/cosmos
[02:15] <daftykins> alrighty bed for me \o
[07:14] <SuperMatt> I don't care what day JamesTait says it is, it would have been Ella Fitzgerald's 100th Birthday, and as such you must all take time to listen to her great works
[07:14] <SuperMatt> I advise starting here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vXAtVbZbkI
[07:48] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls. :)
[07:54] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy World Penguin Day! 😃 🐧
[07:56]  * brobostigon puts his toy penguin on his desk, :)
[07:59] <SuperMatt> It would also have been Ella Fitzgerald's 100th birthday
[08:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:20] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:21] <davmor2> MooDoo: stop copying me already ;)
[08:22]  * brobostigon points out, it isnt a cope, one is lower case the other has an upper case m.
[08:22] <brobostigon> a copy*
[08:23] <MooDoo> howdy y'all - better davmor2 ?
[08:23] <davmor2> brobostigon: but it also ruins the joke ;)
[08:23] <brobostigon> davmor2: :)
[08:24] <davmor2> MooDoo: much better although you do sound like you have a southern/western twang now maybe "'ow do" would suffice :)
[08:25] <MooDoo> davmor2: you got it yoof!
[11:50] <NET||abuse> wow, just moved house recently and going through boxes, looking at my old dvd collection (already diminished from move 5 years ago when i sold 100 dvds/bluerays) now considering getting rid of the last of my physical  media, i dont own a dvd/blueray player anymore
[11:51] <NET||abuse> what do you do with this stuff now? bin/recycle, "take me" note on the street, nobody's buying them really anymomre
[11:52] <davmor2> Charity shops
[11:52] <davmor2> might do some good that way
[11:53] <NET||abuse> anyone in london interested :P https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPaS-inxkA2Ch8hRR5aV3Yk77JHaTy0TVjHF56Fn2yLai051QZpx5f-hvH6_PYOLQ?key=cnYydWlBX1hvR2JsOGdLZ0lwUzhvOENaVkFzSnNn
[11:53] <NET||abuse> but yeh, charity shop is likely the best idea.
[11:54] <NET||abuse> I also have some games, wondering what's best to do there, HL2, Battlefield 2, medieval 2 total war and shogun 2 total war,,, wondering what way i can keep a licence for those
[11:55] <NET||abuse> since none of my laptops have any optical drives at all
[11:56] <NET||abuse> hah, just found monopoly "new edition" dvd
[11:56] <NET||abuse> from 2002 i think
[11:57] <NET||abuse> cd-rom acutally, not a dvd
[12:01] <tripleclones> have you tried http://www.musicmagpie.co.uk or such like, might give a token ammount
[12:05] <NET||abuse> could do that.
[12:16] <foobarry> TIL there is a MATE compiz spin
[12:16] <foobarry> with wobbly windows, expose mode etc
[12:16] <SuperMatt> My life is now complete
[12:16] <SuperMatt> Wobbly windows is the only way I can get happy these days
[12:16] <foobarry> https://spins.fedoraproject.org/mate-compiz/
[12:16] <foobarry> i miss those days
[12:17] <foobarry> everything was buggy but we didn't care
[12:17] <foobarry> i wish i could get the wobbly windows on elementary without compiz
[12:18] <foobarry> gnome shell has an extension but it sucks
[12:18] <foobarry> apparently
[12:41] <diddledan> spinny desktop cubes were awesome
[12:43] <diddledan> your video wasn't cool enough when demonstrating a distro unless it had spinny cube desktops and wobbly windows
[12:43] <diddledan> even better if it had fancy closing window animations like fire
[12:43] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure if you scour the forums you'll find someone still using wobbly windows... these people need to be watched...
[12:44] <diddledan> like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QokOwvPxrE
[12:59] <foobarry> wobbly windows were useful for sanity while on long phone calls
[12:59] <zmoylan-pi> then your sanity was a bit wobbly...
[12:59] <foobarry> i forgot about the window dodge!
[13:00] <foobarry> not as wobbly as teh video, but a little bounce is healthy
[13:00] <foobarry> and that virtual windows switcher!! awesome!
[13:00] <foobarry> move windows across virtual desktops in real time
[13:00] <foobarry> amaze
[13:14]  * TwistedLucidity uses wobbly windows
[13:16] <SuperMatt> "Your honour, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I put it to you that the accused uses Wobbly Windows, and is therefor proof of his mental state at the time of the murder" "GUILTY"
[13:16] <TwistedLucidity> SuperMatt: If you knew where I worked, it would come as little suprise.
[13:16] <diddledan> government is in purdah
[13:17] <SuperMatt> And that's how Hans Reiser was convicted
[13:17] <diddledan> started on the 22nd
[13:17] <diddledan> gotta love electoral rules
[13:17] <diddledan> if you're curious what purdah means: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/election-guidance-for-civil-servants
[13:18] <TwistedLucidity> "You're 2015 election is disqualified...but you got elected in 2017...nothing to see hear, move along, move along"
[13:18] <zmoylan-pi> the votings will continue till the government is happy
[13:19] <SuperMatt> I really hope that something comes of these campaign expenses irregularities. It could very well sway the vote
[13:19] <TwistedLucidity> Something may well come of it, but too late to affect anything. You think the general populace will remember it in 5 year's time?
[13:21] <zmoylan-pi> speaking of wobbly windows... :-P https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/25/webroot_windows_wipeout/
[13:21] <SuperMatt> If the findings of the investigation are announced before June 8th then it could greatly affect the election outcome
[13:21]  * TwistedLucidity also uses desktop cube
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> SuperMatt: Expect the report to go through some stringent vetting prior to release. To ensure accuracy, you understand.
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> That takes time, but any job worth doing....
[13:22] <diddledan> lol @ "goes banananas"
[13:22] <diddledan> I love the register's crooked humour
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> Top-tip: Never use the word "banana" in a password. When you start typing, you're never quite sure when to stop.
[13:23] <SuperMatt> but it's the CPS that'll be releasing it, not the government, so we can expect it to be released in a speedy way
[13:23] <TwistedLucidity> At the top echelons, it's all the same
[13:23] <SuperMatt> No, it's not
[13:23] <SuperMatt> This is what makes our democracy work, they simply cannot overlap in these instances
[13:24] <TwistedLucidity> Officially, no. But they're all members of the same private clubs. So unofficially.....
[13:24] <TwistedLucidity> Cite: Harnett's meal deal
[13:24] <diddledan> I would expect the CPS to be covered by purdah rules like government is
[13:24] <SuperMatt> I think that's a little tin-foil-hat, I'm afraid
[13:25] <SuperMatt> They can't change anything, but they can still convict if it's in the public's interest
[13:25] <SuperMatt> and it would be, before a GE
[13:25] <diddledan> they can't be seen to be party political though. it's difficult then to convict before an election
[13:25] <TwistedLucidity> Let's see if it happens. I think they won't bring any charges, but I hope otherwise.
[13:28] <Seeker`> popey: Did you know Google Effects and Draw apps will no longer work after April 25, 2017? Because I heard from somewhere that Google Effects and Draw apps will no longer work after April 25, 2017
[13:28] <diddledan> did you copy and paste part of that utterance?
[13:28] <Seeker`> no
[13:29] <diddledan> "Google Effects and Draw apps will no longer work after April 25, 2017" was exactly repeated :-)
[13:29] <Seeker`> There was a point to that :)
[13:29]  * diddledan goes to the dunce corner
[13:30] <diddledan> <-- fail
[13:30] <diddledan> did I ruin it?
[13:30] <TwistedLucidity> Is diddledan sitting in the corder? Because I read somewhere that diddledan is sitting in the corner.
[13:30] <TwistedLucidity> s/corder/corner
[13:30] <Seeker`> https://twitter.com/popey/status/842373734644219904 https://twitter.com/popey/status/842373734644219904 https://twitter.com/popey/status/842373734644219904
[13:30] <Seeker`> err, those were meant to be 3 different links
[13:31] <TwistedLucidity> LOL
[13:31]  * Seeker` mashes ctrl+c harder https://twitter.com/popey/status/851706820519440384 https://twitter.com/popey/status/856856746245148672
[13:31] <diddledan> TwistedLucidity: diddledan is sitting in the corner. diddledan was told he should be sitting in the corner. so diddledan went and started sitting in the corner.
[13:32] <TwistedLucidity> But do you have pie, diddledan?
[13:32] <diddledan> TwistedLucidity: plum pie. I pulled out my thumb and said what a good boy am I?
[13:33] <diddledan> ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Jack_Horner
[14:37] <Azelphur> hmm, seeing these occasionally on one of my servers, "kernel: [20789849.785809] ata9: hard resetting link"
[14:37] <Azelphur> Wondering what (if any) action I should take?
[14:40] <cydia> taking on chatroom
[14:41] <diddledan> I guess the chatroom won that battle?
[14:43] <zmoylan-pi> tis a great loss to the community...
[14:43] <Azelphur> lol
[14:59] <davmor2> Azelphur: https://askubuntu.com/questions/133946/are-these-sata-errors-dangerous
[15:00] <Seeker`> at least it isn't an Arduino, Azelphur would have blown it up by now
[15:01] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:03] <Azelphur> davmor2: so basically: contact the host of the server
[15:03] <davmor2> Azelphur: most likely yeap
[22:39] <daftykins> yay Louis
[22:42] <diddledan> another mac?
[22:43] <daftykins> https://www.atecorp.com/products/tektronix/tds694c - one of these today, he's branching out!
[22:44] <daftykins> oh no he wants to learn to use macOS