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nsnzeromorning all05:36
andrewlsdMorning nsnzero06:33
andrewlsdHi inetpro chesedo MaNI nuvolari_ paddatrapper thatgraemeguy theblazehen zoidbergwill06:34
nsnzerohi andrewlsd 06:34
paddatrapperMorning andrewlsd, nsnzero06:52
andrewlsdo/ paddatrapper06:52
theblazehenhi andrewlsd, and all07:05
Kiloshi theblazehen andrewlsd inetpro paddatrapper and everyone else07:05
andrewlsdMorning Kilos :-)07:06
theblazehenhi Kilos07:06
nsnzerohey there Kilos 07:06
Kilos:-)07:06
Kiloshi nsnzero 07:06
Kilosand vulcan 07:06
nsnzeroho are you doing Kilos ?07:06
nsnzeronot ho - but how !!!07:06
vulcanMorning all :)07:07
Kilosok ty just sleep lots and this connection drives me nuts07:07
nsnzerotoday is a nice day for a warm bed and a good movie 07:08
andrewlsdpretty hot in the Cape today.07:09
MaNIwhich part of the cape? only 22 here07:13
andrewlsdMaNI: am expecting it to get a bit warmer as the day progresses. but yip not hot here yet.07:15
andrewlsdInteresting idea for hosting static sites via google firebase07:16
andrewlsdfree up to 1GB content.07:16
andrewlsdhttps://little418.com/07:16
theblazehenandrewlsd: Seen https://github.com/elendirx/web2web? And http://www.cachep2p.com/07:24
andrewlsdnope07:26
* andrewlsd goes to look07:26
andrewlsdwasn't there a similar project with a .io domain name?07:26
andrewlsdyeah. "FreeNet"07:27
andrewlsdand ZeroNet07:27
andrewlsdhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_web_hosting07:27
* andrewlsd goes to check cachep2p07:27
nsnzerohttps://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/04/24/2114225/nsas-doublepulsar-kernel-exploit-a-blood07:43
theblazehenandrewlsd: I considered using https://github.com/retrohacker/peerweb.js for my site07:44
theblazehenhttps://github.com/elendirx/web2web *07:45
theblazehenhttps://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7168 https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3514.txt https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2549 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6214 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4042 08:01
theblazehenSome funny RFCs08:01
nsnzerolol- set evil bit 08:11
theblazehenhttps://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/johnla/2015/09/26/the-inside-story-behind-ms08-067/ good read08:13
theblazehennsnzero: I've been thinking of doing that as well08:13
chesedo"Coffee pots heat water using electronic mechanisms, so there is no fire. Thus, no firewalls are necessary..." /me rofl08:49
Kiloslol hi chesedo 08:59
chesedooh yes, hi Kilos andrewlsd nsnzero paddatrapper theblazehen MaNI vulcan and all others09:01
Kiloslol09:01
vulcanHi chesedo :)09:04
vulcanandrewlsd, if you're wanting to just host static sites, you can do it using AWS S3 as well. And with the free tier you get a decent amount of bucket space / requests for free09:05
theblazehenhi chesedo, vulcan09:14
theblazehenchesedo, andrewlsd http://pastebin.methlab.lsd.co.za/1gxhiwd1.png what a coincidence09:15
paddatrapperHi chesedo, everyone09:23
inetprogood mornings09:35
theblazehenhi paddatrapper, inetpro09:36
pavlushkaMaaz: seen Kilos10:13
Maazpavlushka: Kilos was last seen 1 hour, 11 minutes and 28 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2017-04-25 11:01:47 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2017-04-25 11:13:27 SAST10:13
andrewlsdty vulcan10:23
theblazehennsnzero: You're fine, but have you seen http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2017-8073/ ?11:11
inetprowb Kilos11:29
inetproKilos: remember there's a meeting this evening11:30
paddatrapperHi theblazehen11:33
theblazehenhi paddatrapper11:50
theblazehenpasswd12:07
theblazehenhunter212:07
theblazehenhunter212:07
theblazehenUh. ENOTTY12:08
nsnzerohave a good afternoon guys12:11
Kilosty inetpro dunno for how long with this connection though12:12
andrewlsdhuh12:21
theblazehenTIL 501 tabs in firefox on a shitty pentium G4400 makes it slow13:57
andrewlsderror 501 :-) theblazehen15:10
chesedolol, the first server error to manifest on the client? :P andrewlsd15:40
theblazehenIt still ran fine, and was using just 11 or so GB RAM 17:23
theblazehenJust tab switching was a little slow17:23
chesedotheblazehen: i use a plugin called 'unload' to unload inactive tabs from ram17:32
theblazehenchesedo: yeah, tries that before. I've got enough ram, just tree style tabs is the bottleneck I think17:34
theblazehenTried*17:36
chesedolol -> http://i.imgur.com/NGVwTLz.gif17:38
inetprogood evening ladies and gents18:13
paddatrapperHey inetpro18:16
inetprotime of a cup of joe18:17
inetproMaaz: coffee on18:17
* Maaz starts grinding coffee18:17
inetproKilos: ^^18:17
KilosMaaz coffee please18:17
MaazKilos: Okay18:17
Kilosty inetpro 18:18
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!18:21
Kiloshi londoner 18:21
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za18:21
londonerHi everyone18:22
KilosMaaz thanks man18:22
MaazKilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)18:22
CryterionMaaz: beer on18:22
MaazCryterion: Huh?18:22
Cryteriondamn, can never catch him18:22
CryterionHi everyone18:22
Kiloshi Cryterion 18:23
inetproMaaz: dankie18:23
MaazGroot plesier inetpro my vriend18:23
CryterionHeya Kilos how you doing18:23
Kilosok ty and you?18:23
Cryterionall good, just very busy atm18:24
Kilosim bust too hehe trying to keep connected18:25
Kilosbusy18:25
CryterionI know the feeling, been running out on site lately, so hardly in the office18:26
Kilos4 isp's here and all suck18:26
Kilosunstable 2g is the standard18:26
Cryteriontelkom adsl goes down here at least twice a month18:27
Cryterioneither their system, or a broken cable18:27
Kilosso sad we have to battle with internet18:27
Kilosor the road works dig up the fibre18:27
Cryterionor trucks drive down narrow residential roads and cut the overhead CABLE18:28
Kiloshaha yeah18:29
Cryterionwiped phones from the whole town18:29
Kiloswhew18:29
chesedolol18:29
Cryteriontook them 3 days to fix, so that's an improvement I guess18:30
chesedoand here we go!!18:30
chesedoMaaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - April 201718:30
* Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles18:30
chesedoMaaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction 18:30
chesedoWelcome all and thanks for joining in on our monthly meeting18:30
MaazCurrent Topic: Welcoming and Introduction18:30
inetproMaaz: I am Gustav H Meyer18:30
Maazinetpro: Done18:30
KilosMaaz i am Miles Sharpe18:30
MaazKilos: Righto18:30
theblazehenMaaz: I am Jeandre Le Roux18:30
chesedoOur bot maaz does the minutes as usual so please introduce yourself to it using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg. 18:30
chesedoMaaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht18:30
Maaztheblazehen: What?18:30
Maazchesedo: Righto18:30
Cryterionyou 4 minutes early :)18:30
CryterionMaaz: I am Gavin Bauer18:31
MaazCryterion: Done18:31
theblazehenMaaz: I am Jeandre Le_Roux18:31
Maaztheblazehen: What?18:31
Kilos8.3118:31
chesedoThe agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2017042518:31
chesedoAny last minute addition are welcome18:31
inetproCryterion: no, he's right on time18:31
londonerMaaz: I am Paul Romano18:31
Maazlondoner: Righto18:31
* chesedo thought he was 35 secs late18:31
Kiloslol18:31
Cryterionok, clocks slow then :)18:31
chesedoCryterion: give it redBull :P18:32
Cryterionlol18:32
inetproset your clock to NTP Cryterion18:32
chesedoMaaz: agreed All happy with agenda18:32
MaazAgreed: All happy with agenda18:32
chesedoMaaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting 18:32
MaazCurrent Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting18:32
inetproI mean to a NTPd server18:32
chesedoprevious meeting minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2017032818:32
chesedoA read of it might be a nice refresher18:32
CryterionI'll look into it later inetpro18:33
chesedoit is weird as i thought linux auto uses ntp years ago...18:33
chesedoMaaz: agreed All happy with previous minutes18:34
MaazAgreed: All happy with previous minutes18:34
chesedoMaaz: topic Next Steps18:34
MaazCurrent Topic: Next Steps18:34
chesedoAnyone needing help on any next steps activities?18:34
chesedoie. with coc,  ubuntu membership, launchpad, mailing list or trello18:35
CryterionAll done18:35
chesedoMaaz: agreed No new Next Steps18:36
MaazAgreed: No new Next Steps18:36
chesedoMaaz: topic Events 18:36
MaazCurrent Topic: Events18:36
chesedothese are the upcoming events:18:36
chesedo- Typescript on the Backend: 26 April 2017 (Cape Town) -> https://www.meetup.com/Cape-Town-Backend-Developers/events/239100785/18:36
chesedo- ES2017: The Reality: 3 May 2017 (Cape Town) -> https://www.meetup.com/cape-town-js/events/239181272/18:36
chesedo- Google I/O Extended '17: 17 May 2017 (Johannesburg) -> https://www.meetup.com/GDGJohannesburg/events/238958547/18:36
chesedofor any 4th plus year students, this event might be of interest:18:36
chesedo- Deep Learning Indaba: 11-15 September 2017 (Johannesburg) -> http://www.deeplearningindaba.com/18:36
CryterionWe need more in the Durban are18:36
Kiloshi magespawn 18:37
chesedoCryterion: sure do...18:37
Cryterionarea*18:37
magespawngood evening18:37
magespawnhi Kilos 18:37
chesedohi magespawn18:37
Cryterionhi magespawn18:37
magespawnhey chesedo18:37
chesedopaddatrapper: which are you completing?18:37
magespawnhi Cryterion 18:37
chesedos/are/year/18:37
Kilosmagespawn login with maaz please18:37
chesedomagespawn: you joining the meeting?18:37
magespawnHi Maaz, I am Greg Eames18:37
Kiloslol18:38
magespawneven forgot how to log in.18:38
Kilos   maaz  first18:38
MaazKilos: Sorry...18:38
chesedomagespawn: try 'Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>'18:38
magespawnMaaz I am Greg Eames18:38
Maazmagespawn: Alrighty18:38
chesedoIs anyone organising anything else or knows of any other upcoming events?18:38
chesedoCryterion: ^ :P18:38
magespawnBeen awhile18:38
chesedomagespawn: sure has...18:39
chesedomagespawn: i have just gone over the ubuntu membership section, if you wanted to add anything about yours?18:39
magespawnNothing, except that I have not done anything about it yet18:40
magespawnlife has been a bit hectic.18:40
chesedomagespawn: np18:40
chesedoMaaz: agreed No other events to add18:40
MaazAgreed: No other events to add18:40
chesedoMaaz: topic Miscellaneous 18:41
MaazCurrent Topic: Miscellaneous18:41
chesedonew events appeared on the slack channel for April after the last meeting...18:41
chesedoso i am wondering if it might not be a good idea to email the list weekly about them?18:41
chesedoabout 5 or so was missed18:41
Kilosjust do it18:41
Kilosall ideas are good till someone has a better one18:42
chesedoMaaz: agreed To sent a weekly list email with aggregated events18:42
MaazAgreed: To sent a weekly list email with aggregated events18:42
chesedoKilos: ty18:42
chesedoHas anyone upgraded to 17.04?18:42
Cryterionthat'll help I think, mailing list has been quiet latel18:43
* theblazehen has18:43
theblazehenWell, not upgraded. New install18:43
magespawnNot yet, I here there are some issues with the software installer18:43
paddatrapperMaaz: I am Kyle Robbertze 18:43
Maazpaddatrapper: Done18:43
magespawnhere=hear18:43
chesedotheblazehen: your experience?18:43
Kiloshi oom jan18:43
chesedotheblazehen: and flavour?18:43
Kiloslogin to the meeting 18:44
chesedowb paddatrapper18:44
inetprochesedo: don't remind me, I still need to do some upgrades from 12.0418:44
LangjanHello everybody, hi Kilos hoe gaan dit?18:44
chesedoinetpro: lol18:44
Kilosok ty meeting underway18:44
Kilosi actually made it18:44
theblazehenchesedo: Running ubuntu server on server (obviously), then installed kde on laptop and just a WM on desktop. Pretty decent18:44
LangjanOh ok will chat again tomorrow 18:45
chesedotheblazehen: anything new you may have noticed?18:45
magespawntheblazehen: a friend said that the package installer apt had issues18:45
Kiloswhy Langjan 18:45
theblazehenchesedo: Nothing too special18:45
chesedotheblazehen: ok18:45
KilosLangjan pm18:45
inetpromagespawn: what issues?18:45
theblazehenmagespawn: As in, during the install? `debootstrap` works fine for me :)18:45
Cryterionmagespawn apt always has issues on 14.0418:46
magespawnthe package install, software center or whatever they are calling it now.18:46
magespawnthe gui for apt18:46
* inetpro just sticks to the cli18:47
Cryterionyes, I gave up on it, I always do updates/upgrades via terminal18:47
* chesedo too, gui take too long to load18:47
paddatrapperCli is life. Cli is love 18:47
magespawnyup me too.18:48
magespawnbut some cannot live without the pretty pictures18:48
chesedolol, we sound like a bunch of techies/admins18:48
Cryterionlol18:48
chesedoon a side note: status for education project is same as last18:49
CryterionI just plug the updates into crontab now18:49
paddatrapperchesedo: you mean we aren't and my life is a lie? Lol18:49
paddatrapperCryterion: Debian unattended-upgrades package :D18:50
* chesedo realised that exams starts in two weeks so may have little time to test for the edu project in the near future18:50
chesedoinetpro: in the last meeting you mentioned a school that could do with some Ubuntu For Hope PCs?18:51
inetprochesedo: yikes, you have some available?18:51
chesedochesedo: karl mentioned that he might have after last meeting (when we spoke)18:52
chesedomay need to get an update though...18:52
inetpronice, please remind me to follow up with you tomorrow or so18:52
chesedoinetpro: will do18:52
inetproty18:52
chesedoanything else for Misc anyone?18:53
chesedoMaaz: agreed chesedo do follow up with inetpro for Ubuntu for Hope / school Pcs18:53
MaazAgreed: chesedo do follow up with inetpro for Ubuntu for Hope / school Pcs18:53
chesedoMaaz: topic Next meeting18:53
MaazCurrent Topic: Next meeting18:53
chesedonext meeting seems to be 23rd May18:54
chesedoand minis on 26 April (tomorrow) and 10 May18:54
chesedothat right? ^^18:54
chesedoMaaz: agreed Next meeting is 23 May 2017 @ 20:30 18:55
chesedoMaaz: agreed Next meeting is 26 April 2017 & 10 May 2017 @ 20:3018:55
MaazAgreed: Next meeting is 26 April 2017 & 10 May 2017 @ 20:3018:55
MaazAgreed: Next meeting is 23 May 2017 @ 20:3018:55
chesedoMaaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting 18:55
MaazCurrent Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting18:55
inetpro+1 chesedo18:55
chesedoi have an exam on 24th... will have to sit out18:55
magespawnwhat is the minis?18:55
inetpropaddatrapper: your turn again?18:56
chesedomagespawn: mini meetings is some we took up two months ago18:56
inetpromagespawn: you've been scarce sir18:56
magespawnwow I have been gone long. alrighty then.18:56
* magespawn hangs head sheepishly18:56
chesedomagespawn: they are quick are cover the 'Latest and Greatest news' by theblazehen, 'Local Job Openings and Help wanted' and 'Ubuntu education project' 18:57
chesedos/are/and/18:57
magespawnright, i'll attempt to attend those 18:57
chesedoMaNI: speaking of which - did you get that php (or something) position filled?18:58
chesedoinetpro: seems that it might be your turn again :D18:58
inetprosjoe, really nobody else available?18:59
chesedotheblazehen: maybe you want to take a swing at it?18:59
* Cryterion hides in a corner18:59
theblazehenchesedo: Alright, sure18:59
inetpro\o/18:59
* chesedo fetches a flashlight to find Cryterion :P18:59
chesedotheblazehen: great ty18:59
* Cryterion moves corners18:59
inetprobig sigh of relief, thanks theblazehen19:00
theblazehenNo problem19:00
chesedoinetpro: will you show him the ropes on the day19:00
MaNIchesedo, hehe nope haven't even advertised it yet, why do you ask?19:00
chesedoinetpro: and be backup?19:00
Kiloshahaha he always ducks19:00
inetproI'll gladly assist if he doesn't know how already19:00
chesedoMaNI: mini meeting tomorrow has Job Openings section - if you have its details19:01
inetproKilos: the young ones are good at this man :-)19:01
chesedoMaaz: agreed theblazehen to chair next meeting 19:01
MaazAgreed: theblazehen to chair next meeting19:01
Kilosyes inetpro i see that19:01
MaNIoh okay, thanks for the offer, but that won't be necessary, I'll probably be resigning and moving on with my life instead, bit of a touchy subject at the moment :p19:01
chesedoinetpro: it will be his first iirc - so need to register with maaz and what not19:02
inetproMaNI: eish, never give up!19:02
chesedoMaNI: ok19:02
MaNIletting go not giving up19:02
chesedoAnd that all. Thank you all for joining in on our monthly meeting!19:03
chesedoMaaz: end meeting 19:03
MaazMeeting Ended19:03
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inetprothat was nice and short, thanks again chesedo19:03
magespawnAs an a side, did anyone else see this ssh ghost@theshell.xyz ?19:03
chesedoMaaz: atleast the job openings section goes both ways :D19:04
Maazchesedo: Huh?19:04
chesedoMaNI:  atleast the job openings section goes both ways :D19:04
Kilosty chesedo very efficient19:05
chesedonp inetpro Kilos19:05
MaNIhehe, I have no shortage of work quite the opposite really, I'll probably freelance for a while19:05
chesedomagespawn: cannot ping it, but ssh works19:05
nsnzerogood evening guys19:06
inetpronsnzero: oops, you're late19:07
nsnzerosorry i missed the meeting 19:08
nsnzerowhy did i think it was tomorrow night ???19:09
Kiloswell that just made the meeting19:09
Kilosnight all, sleep tight19:10
inetpronsnzero: too many holidays getting you confused now?19:10
Kilosbefore im dropped again19:10
nsnzerotake care Kilos 19:10
inetprogood night Kilos19:10
Kilos'always19:10
inetproKilos: and thanks for joining19:10
Kilossee you tomorrow19:10
Kilosty for reminding me inetpro 19:10
Kilosi been very slack19:11
magespawngood night Kilos 19:11
Langjannighty night Kilos 19:11
Langjanslaap lekker19:11
theblazehennight Kilos19:11
Kilosmembership board membership expiring too but dunno if i should try apply again19:11
Kilosnight all19:11
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LangjanIs there an hplip expert on line?19:13
magespawni am also out here, good night all19:13
Langjang'night magespawn 19:13
nsnzeroevening Langjan - goodnight magespawn 19:14
Langjanhi nsnzero you keeping well?19:14
paddatrapperchesedo: sorry my connection dropped 19:14
nsnzeroyes Langjan and i hope you are in good health as well 19:15
paddatrapperAnd was dragged away to sort cleaning the house... 19:15
LangjanFine thks nsnzero 19:15
nsnzerowhat troubles you having with hplip Langjan ?19:17
nsnzeroi am no expert but i will try to help 19:17
inetprogood night everyone19:18
LangjanThks, nsnzero - It worked fine since installing 16.04 then suddenly seemed to disappear, cannot get it installed again. Seems like a bug19:18
LangjanSystem does not even pick up the printer19:19
nsnzerohave you tried sudo apt install hplip --reinstall ?19:19
LangjanNo let me try that 19:19
nsnzerodoesnt show in lsusb ?19:19
Langjanno19:19
LangjanThe following packages have unmet dependencies:19:20
Langjan hplip : Depends: cups (>= 1.1.20)19:20
Langjan         Depends: printer-driver-hpcups (= 3.16.3+repack0-1) but it is not going to be installed19:20
LangjanE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.19:20
nsnzerodid you test the printer on another machine ?19:21
Langjanyes it works fine on my wife's 14.0419:21
nsnzeroto eliminate the hardware being faulty 19:22
LangjanPrinted some pages a few hours ago via her Ubuntu and hplip19:22
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Vince-0Oi oi19:23
chesedooi Vince-019:23
chesedoLangjan: try to install the missing dep 'sudo apt install printer-driver-hpcups'19:24
LangjanHi chesedo, I have tried, but let me give it another go  19:25
LangjanSame unmet dependencies output as above when I try to install hpcups chesedo 19:27
LangjanE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.19:27
nsnzeroLangjan: try apt search printer-driver-hpcup - want the see what is in the repo19:28
chesedoLangjan: ouch... hope you get it right19:29
* chesedo is off for the night19:29
nsnzeronight chesedo sleep well19:29
Langjanprinter-driver-hpcups/xenial 3.16.3+repack0-1 amd6419:29
Langjan  HP Linux Printing and Imaging - CUPS Raster driver (hpcups)19:29
Langjanbye chesedo sleel well19:30
Langjansleep19:30
nsnzerosudo apt install printer-driver-hpcups  gives any errors ?19:30
Langjannsnzero,  the same error message as above19:31
LangjanAnd: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have19:32
Langjanrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable19:32
Langjandistribution that some required packages have not yet been created19:32
Langjanor been moved out of Incoming.19:32
LangjanThe following packages have unmet dependencies:19:33
nsnzeroupdate your repos - sudo apt update 19:33
nsnzerocheck if any are down 19:34
LangjanUpdate and upgrade were fine, but this error came up: It seems that the daemon died.19:36
LangjanAnd: Package 'libpam-smbpass' is virtual.19:37
LangjanCould sudo apt dist-upgrade help? 19:37
nsnzerosmb-pass is related to samba if i am not mistaken 19:37
nsnzerothat will upgrade you to the newest version of ubuntu 19:38
LangjanIs that a possible problem or solution?19:40
nsnzerohttps://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade19:40
nsnzeroit might Langjan - but i broke my system on failed upgrades more than once 19:41
LangjanI can always revert via Timeshift if need be19:42
nsnzerowell then you can definitely try it 19:43
nsnzeroon my system its install hplip/xenial,now 3.16.3+repack0-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]19:45
nsnzeroand i dont even have a hp printer !!!19:45
LangjanSeems I already have latest upgrade installed 19:45
nsnzerodoes dmesg | grepp Error show anything ?19:47
nsnzerogrep not grepp19:47
Langjannothing19:48
nsnzeroprinter plugged in and on ?19:48
Langjanoh sorry, no19:48
Langjanstill nothing19:49
nsnzerodid you install any new software recently ?19:50
LangjanTrying to recall, nothing I can remember19:50
nsnzerolets try sudo apt install --fix-missing19:51
LangjanNothing to do19:52
Langjan0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded19:52
nsnzero32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu ?19:52
Langjan64 bit19:53
nsnzerosudo apt install cups 19:55
LangjanSame error message as before19:55
LangjanThe following packages have unmet dependencies:19:56
Langjancups : Depends: libcups2 (= 2.1.3-4) but 2.1.3-4ubuntu0.2 is to be installed19:56
Langjan        Depends: cups-filters (>= 1.0.24-3~) but it is not going to be installed19:56
LangjanRecommends: printer-driver-gutenprint but it is not going to be installed19:56
LangjanRecommends: cups-filters (>= 1.0.36) but it is not going to be installed or19:57
Langjan                    ghostscript-cups (>= 9.02~)19:57
LangjanAnd E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.19:57
nsnzeroit wont install because it might break other packages 19:58
nsnzerosynaptic has a section that will show conflicting packages19:59
LangjanIt only refers to broken packages, does not identify them - am I at the right place? 20:02
nsnzeroLangjan: sudo apt-get clean will remove broken packages as well 20:02
LangjanE: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.20:03
LangjanE: Unable to correct dependencies20:03
nsnzeroyes right place which packages are broken ?20:03
LangjanI have tried clen, will do again20:03
LangjanSorry nsnzero finger trouble...20:05
nsnzerono problem Langjan 20:05
nsnzerohttps://askubuntu.com/questions/118749/package-system-is-broken-how-to-fix-it20:06
LangjanTrying those instructions...20:08
Langjanthks20:08
nsnzerowish  i could stay up longer Langjan unfortunately work tomorrow20:10
nsnzerobest of luck 20:10
nsnzerohave a good night 20:10
LangjanMany thks nsnzero  sleep well 20:10
nsnzeroyou as well 20:10
Langjanthks20:11

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