[05:36] <nsnzero> morning all
[06:33] <andrewlsd> Morning nsnzero
[06:34] <andrewlsd> Hi inetpro chesedo MaNI nuvolari_ paddatrapper thatgraemeguy theblazehen zoidbergwill
[06:34] <nsnzero> hi andrewlsd 
[06:52] <paddatrapper> Morning andrewlsd, nsnzero
[06:52] <andrewlsd> o/ paddatrapper
[07:05] <theblazehen> hi andrewlsd, and all
[07:05] <Kilos> hi theblazehen andrewlsd inetpro paddatrapper and everyone else
[07:06] <andrewlsd> Morning Kilos :-)
[07:06] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[07:06] <nsnzero> hey there Kilos 
[07:06] <Kilos> :-)
[07:06] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[07:06] <Kilos> and vulcan 
[07:06] <nsnzero> ho are you doing Kilos ?
[07:06] <nsnzero> not ho - but how !!!
[07:07] <vulcan> Morning all :)
[07:07] <Kilos> ok ty just sleep lots and this connection drives me nuts
[07:08] <nsnzero> today is a nice day for a warm bed and a good movie 
[07:09] <andrewlsd> pretty hot in the Cape today.
[07:13] <MaNI> which part of the cape? only 22 here
[07:15] <andrewlsd> MaNI: am expecting it to get a bit warmer as the day progresses. but yip not hot here yet.
[07:16] <andrewlsd> Interesting idea for hosting static sites via google firebase
[07:16] <andrewlsd> free up to 1GB content.
[07:16] <andrewlsd> https://little418.com/
[07:24] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: Seen https://github.com/elendirx/web2web? And http://www.cachep2p.com/
[07:26] <andrewlsd> nope
[07:26]  * andrewlsd goes to look
[07:26] <andrewlsd> wasn't there a similar project with a .io domain name?
[07:27] <andrewlsd> yeah. "FreeNet"
[07:27] <andrewlsd> and ZeroNet
[07:27] <andrewlsd> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_web_hosting
[07:27]  * andrewlsd goes to check cachep2p
[07:43] <nsnzero> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/04/24/2114225/nsas-doublepulsar-kernel-exploit-a-blood
[07:44] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: I considered using https://github.com/retrohacker/peerweb.js for my site
[07:45] <theblazehen> https://github.com/elendirx/web2web *
[08:01] <theblazehen> https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7168 https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3514.txt https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2549 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6214 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4042 
[08:01] <theblazehen> Some funny RFCs
[08:11] <nsnzero> lol- set evil bit 
[08:13] <theblazehen> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/johnla/2015/09/26/the-inside-story-behind-ms08-067/ good read
[08:13] <theblazehen> nsnzero: I've been thinking of doing that as well
[08:49] <chesedo> "Coffee pots heat water using electronic mechanisms, so there is no fire. Thus, no firewalls are necessary..." /me rofl
[08:59] <Kilos> lol hi chesedo 
[09:01] <chesedo> oh yes, hi Kilos andrewlsd nsnzero paddatrapper theblazehen MaNI vulcan and all others
[09:01] <Kilos> lol
[09:04] <vulcan> Hi chesedo :)
[09:05] <vulcan> andrewlsd, if you're wanting to just host static sites, you can do it using AWS S3 as well. And with the free tier you get a decent amount of bucket space / requests for free
[09:14] <theblazehen> hi chesedo, vulcan
[09:15] <theblazehen> chesedo, andrewlsd http://pastebin.methlab.lsd.co.za/1gxhiwd1.png what a coincidence
[09:23] <paddatrapper> Hi chesedo, everyone
[09:35] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:36] <theblazehen> hi paddatrapper, inetpro
[10:13] <pavlushka> Maaz: seen Kilos
[10:13] <Maaz> pavlushka: Kilos was last seen 1 hour, 11 minutes and 28 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2017-04-25 11:01:47 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2017-04-25 11:13:27 SAST
[10:23] <andrewlsd> ty vulcan
[11:11] <theblazehen> nsnzero: You're fine, but have you seen http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2017-8073/ ?
[11:29] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[11:30] <inetpro> Kilos: remember there's a meeting this evening
[11:33] <paddatrapper> Hi theblazehen
[11:50] <theblazehen> hi paddatrapper
[12:07] <theblazehen> passwd
[12:07] <theblazehen> hunter2
[12:07] <theblazehen> hunter2
[12:08] <theblazehen> Uh. ENOTTY
[12:11] <nsnzero> have a good afternoon guys
[12:12] <Kilos> ty inetpro dunno for how long with this connection though
[12:21] <andrewlsd> huh
[13:57] <theblazehen> TIL 501 tabs in firefox on a shitty pentium G4400 makes it slow
[15:10] <andrewlsd> error 501 :-) theblazehen
[15:40] <chesedo> lol, the first server error to manifest on the client? :P andrewlsd
[17:23] <theblazehen> It still ran fine, and was using just 11 or so GB RAM 
[17:23] <theblazehen> Just tab switching was a little slow
[17:32] <chesedo> theblazehen: i use a plugin called 'unload' to unload inactive tabs from ram
[17:34] <theblazehen> chesedo: yeah, tries that before. I've got enough ram, just tree style tabs is the bottleneck I think
[17:36] <theblazehen> Tried*
[17:38] <chesedo> lol -> http://i.imgur.com/NGVwTLz.gif
[18:13] <inetpro> good evening ladies and gents
[18:16] <paddatrapper> Hey inetpro
[18:17] <inetpro> time of a cup of joe
[18:17] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[18:17]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[18:17] <inetpro> Kilos: ^^
[18:17] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[18:17] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[18:18] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[18:21] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[18:21] <Kilos> hi londoner 
[18:21] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[18:22] <londoner> Hi everyone
[18:22] <Kilos> Maaz thanks man
[18:22] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[18:22] <Cryterion> Maaz: beer on
[18:22] <Maaz> Cryterion: Huh?
[18:22] <Cryterion> damn, can never catch him
[18:22] <Cryterion> Hi everyone
[18:23] <Kilos> hi Cryterion 
[18:23] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[18:23] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[18:23] <Cryterion> Heya Kilos how you doing
[18:23] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[18:24] <Cryterion> all good, just very busy atm
[18:25] <Kilos> im bust too hehe trying to keep connected
[18:25] <Kilos> busy
[18:26] <Cryterion> I know the feeling, been running out on site lately, so hardly in the office
[18:26] <Kilos> 4 isp's here and all suck
[18:26] <Kilos> unstable 2g is the standard
[18:27] <Cryterion> telkom adsl goes down here at least twice a month
[18:27] <Cryterion> either their system, or a broken cable
[18:27] <Kilos> so sad we have to battle with internet
[18:27] <Kilos> or the road works dig up the fibre
[18:28] <Cryterion> or trucks drive down narrow residential roads and cut the overhead CABLE
[18:29] <Kilos> haha yeah
[18:29] <Cryterion> wiped phones from the whole town
[18:29] <Kilos> whew
[18:29] <chesedo> lol
[18:30] <Cryterion> took them 3 days to fix, so that's an improvement I guess
[18:30] <chesedo> and here we go!!
[18:30] <chesedo> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - April 2017
[18:30]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:30] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction 
[18:30] <chesedo> Welcome all and thanks for joining in on our monthly meeting
[18:30] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction
[18:30] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[18:30] <Maaz> inetpro: Done
[18:30] <Kilos> Maaz i am Miles Sharpe
[18:30] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[18:30] <theblazehen> Maaz: I am Jeandre Le Roux
[18:30] <chesedo> Our bot maaz does the minutes as usual so please introduce yourself to it using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg. 
[18:30] <chesedo> Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht
[18:30] <Maaz> theblazehen: What?
[18:30] <Maaz> chesedo: Righto
[18:30] <Cryterion> you 4 minutes early :)
[18:31] <Cryterion> Maaz: I am Gavin Bauer
[18:31] <Maaz> Cryterion: Done
[18:31] <theblazehen> Maaz: I am Jeandre Le_Roux
[18:31] <Maaz> theblazehen: What?
[18:31] <Kilos> 8.31
[18:31] <chesedo> The agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170425
[18:31] <chesedo> Any last minute addition are welcome
[18:31] <inetpro> Cryterion: no, he's right on time
[18:31] <londoner> Maaz: I am Paul Romano
[18:31] <Maaz> londoner: Righto
[18:31]  * chesedo thought he was 35 secs late
[18:31] <Kilos> lol
[18:31] <Cryterion> ok, clocks slow then :)
[18:32] <chesedo> Cryterion: give it redBull :P
[18:32] <Cryterion> lol
[18:32] <inetpro> set your clock to NTP Cryterion
[18:32] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed All happy with agenda
[18:32] <Maaz> Agreed: All happy with agenda
[18:32] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting 
[18:32] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:32] <inetpro> I mean to a NTPd server
[18:32] <chesedo> previous meeting minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170328
[18:32] <chesedo> A read of it might be a nice refresher
[18:33] <Cryterion> I'll look into it later inetpro
[18:33] <chesedo> it is weird as i thought linux auto uses ntp years ago...
[18:34] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed All happy with previous minutes
[18:34] <Maaz> Agreed: All happy with previous minutes
[18:34] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Next Steps
[18:34] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next Steps
[18:34] <chesedo> Anyone needing help on any next steps activities?
[18:35] <chesedo> ie. with coc,  ubuntu membership, launchpad, mailing list or trello
[18:35] <Cryterion> All done
[18:36] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed No new Next Steps
[18:36] <Maaz> Agreed: No new Next Steps
[18:36] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Events 
[18:36] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[18:36] <chesedo> these are the upcoming events:
[18:36] <chesedo> - Typescript on the Backend: 26 April 2017 (Cape Town) -> https://www.meetup.com/Cape-Town-Backend-Developers/events/239100785/
[18:36] <chesedo> - ES2017: The Reality: 3 May 2017 (Cape Town) -> https://www.meetup.com/cape-town-js/events/239181272/
[18:36] <chesedo> - Google I/O Extended '17: 17 May 2017 (Johannesburg) -> https://www.meetup.com/GDGJohannesburg/events/238958547/
[18:36] <chesedo> for any 4th plus year students, this event might be of interest:
[18:36] <chesedo> - Deep Learning Indaba: 11-15 September 2017 (Johannesburg) -> http://www.deeplearningindaba.com/
[18:36] <Cryterion> We need more in the Durban are
[18:37] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:37] <chesedo> Cryterion: sure do...
[18:37] <Cryterion> area*
[18:37] <magespawn> good evening
[18:37] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[18:37] <chesedo> hi magespawn
[18:37] <Cryterion> hi magespawn
[18:37] <magespawn> hey chesedo
[18:37] <chesedo> paddatrapper: which are you completing?
[18:37] <magespawn> hi Cryterion 
[18:37] <chesedo> s/are/year/
[18:37] <Kilos> magespawn login with maaz please
[18:37] <chesedo> magespawn: you joining the meeting?
[18:37] <magespawn> Hi Maaz, I am Greg Eames
[18:38] <Kilos> lol
[18:38] <magespawn> even forgot how to log in.
[18:38] <Kilos>    maaz  first
[18:38] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry...
[18:38] <chesedo> magespawn: try 'Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>'
[18:38] <magespawn> Maaz I am Greg Eames
[18:38] <Maaz> magespawn: Alrighty
[18:38] <chesedo> Is anyone organising anything else or knows of any other upcoming events?
[18:38] <chesedo> Cryterion: ^ :P
[18:38] <magespawn> Been awhile
[18:39] <chesedo> magespawn: sure has...
[18:39] <chesedo> magespawn: i have just gone over the ubuntu membership section, if you wanted to add anything about yours?
[18:40] <magespawn> Nothing, except that I have not done anything about it yet
[18:40] <magespawn> life has been a bit hectic.
[18:40] <chesedo> magespawn: np
[18:40] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed No other events to add
[18:40] <Maaz> Agreed: No other events to add
[18:41] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Miscellaneous 
[18:41] <Maaz> Current Topic: Miscellaneous
[18:41] <chesedo> new events appeared on the slack channel for April after the last meeting...
[18:41] <chesedo> so i am wondering if it might not be a good idea to email the list weekly about them?
[18:41] <chesedo> about 5 or so was missed
[18:41] <Kilos> just do it
[18:42] <Kilos> all ideas are good till someone has a better one
[18:42] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed To sent a weekly list email with aggregated events
[18:42] <Maaz> Agreed: To sent a weekly list email with aggregated events
[18:42] <chesedo> Kilos: ty
[18:42] <chesedo> Has anyone upgraded to 17.04?
[18:43] <Cryterion> that'll help I think, mailing list has been quiet latel
[18:43]  * theblazehen has
[18:43] <theblazehen> Well, not upgraded. New install
[18:43] <magespawn> Not yet, I here there are some issues with the software installer
[18:43] <paddatrapper> Maaz: I am Kyle Robbertze 
[18:43] <Maaz> paddatrapper: Done
[18:43] <magespawn> here=hear
[18:43] <chesedo> theblazehen: your experience?
[18:43] <Kilos> hi oom jan
[18:43] <chesedo> theblazehen: and flavour?
[18:44] <Kilos> login to the meeting 
[18:44] <chesedo> wb paddatrapper
[18:44] <inetpro> chesedo: don't remind me, I still need to do some upgrades from 12.04
[18:44] <Langjan> Hello everybody, hi Kilos hoe gaan dit?
[18:44] <chesedo> inetpro: lol
[18:44] <Kilos> ok ty meeting underway
[18:44] <Kilos> i actually made it
[18:44] <theblazehen> chesedo: Running ubuntu server on server (obviously), then installed kde on laptop and just a WM on desktop. Pretty decent
[18:45] <Langjan> Oh ok will chat again tomorrow 
[18:45] <chesedo> theblazehen: anything new you may have noticed?
[18:45] <magespawn> theblazehen: a friend said that the package installer apt had issues
[18:45] <Kilos> why Langjan 
[18:45] <theblazehen> chesedo: Nothing too special
[18:45] <chesedo> theblazehen: ok
[18:45] <Kilos> Langjan pm
[18:45] <inetpro> magespawn: what issues?
[18:45] <theblazehen> magespawn: As in, during the install? `debootstrap` works fine for me :)
[18:46] <Cryterion> magespawn apt always has issues on 14.04
[18:46] <magespawn> the package install, software center or whatever they are calling it now.
[18:46] <magespawn> the gui for apt
[18:47]  * inetpro just sticks to the cli
[18:47] <Cryterion> yes, I gave up on it, I always do updates/upgrades via terminal
[18:47]  * chesedo too, gui take too long to load
[18:47] <paddatrapper> Cli is life. Cli is love 
[18:48] <magespawn> yup me too.
[18:48] <magespawn> but some cannot live without the pretty pictures
[18:48] <chesedo> lol, we sound like a bunch of techies/admins
[18:48] <Cryterion> lol
[18:49] <chesedo> on a side note: status for education project is same as last
[18:49] <Cryterion> I just plug the updates into crontab now
[18:49] <paddatrapper> chesedo: you mean we aren't and my life is a lie? Lol
[18:50] <paddatrapper> Cryterion: Debian unattended-upgrades package :D
[18:50]  * chesedo realised that exams starts in two weeks so may have little time to test for the edu project in the near future
[18:51] <chesedo> inetpro: in the last meeting you mentioned a school that could do with some Ubuntu For Hope PCs?
[18:51] <inetpro> chesedo: yikes, you have some available?
[18:52] <chesedo> chesedo: karl mentioned that he might have after last meeting (when we spoke)
[18:52] <chesedo> may need to get an update though...
[18:52] <inetpro> nice, please remind me to follow up with you tomorrow or so
[18:52] <chesedo> inetpro: will do
[18:52] <inetpro> ty
[18:53] <chesedo> anything else for Misc anyone?
[18:53] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed chesedo do follow up with inetpro for Ubuntu for Hope / school Pcs
[18:53] <Maaz> Agreed: chesedo do follow up with inetpro for Ubuntu for Hope / school Pcs
[18:53] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Next meeting
[18:53] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next meeting
[18:54] <chesedo> next meeting seems to be 23rd May
[18:54] <chesedo> and minis on 26 April (tomorrow) and 10 May
[18:54] <chesedo> that right? ^^
[18:55] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 23 May 2017 @ 20:30 
[18:55] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 26 April 2017 & 10 May 2017 @ 20:30
[18:55] <Maaz> Agreed: Next meeting is 26 April 2017 & 10 May 2017 @ 20:30
[18:55] <Maaz> Agreed: Next meeting is 23 May 2017 @ 20:30
[18:55] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting 
[18:55] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting
[18:55] <inetpro> +1 chesedo
[18:55] <chesedo> i have an exam on 24th... will have to sit out
[18:55] <magespawn> what is the minis?
[18:56] <inetpro> paddatrapper: your turn again?
[18:56] <chesedo> magespawn: mini meetings is some we took up two months ago
[18:56] <inetpro> magespawn: you've been scarce sir
[18:56] <magespawn> wow I have been gone long. alrighty then.
[18:56]  * magespawn hangs head sheepishly
[18:57] <chesedo> magespawn: they are quick are cover the 'Latest and Greatest news' by theblazehen, 'Local Job Openings and Help wanted' and 'Ubuntu education project' 
[18:57] <chesedo> s/are/and/
[18:57] <magespawn> right, i'll attempt to attend those 
[18:58] <chesedo> MaNI: speaking of which - did you get that php (or something) position filled?
[18:58] <chesedo> inetpro: seems that it might be your turn again :D
[18:59] <inetpro> sjoe, really nobody else available?
[18:59] <chesedo> theblazehen: maybe you want to take a swing at it?
[18:59]  * Cryterion hides in a corner
[18:59] <theblazehen> chesedo: Alright, sure
[18:59] <inetpro> \o/
[18:59]  * chesedo fetches a flashlight to find Cryterion :P
[18:59] <chesedo> theblazehen: great ty
[18:59]  * Cryterion moves corners
[19:00] <inetpro> big sigh of relief, thanks theblazehen
[19:00] <theblazehen> No problem
[19:00] <chesedo> inetpro: will you show him the ropes on the day
[19:00] <MaNI> chesedo, hehe nope haven't even advertised it yet, why do you ask?
[19:00] <chesedo> inetpro: and be backup?
[19:00] <Kilos> hahaha he always ducks
[19:00] <inetpro> I'll gladly assist if he doesn't know how already
[19:01] <chesedo> MaNI: mini meeting tomorrow has Job Openings section - if you have its details
[19:01] <inetpro> Kilos: the young ones are good at this man :-)
[19:01] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed theblazehen to chair next meeting 
[19:01] <Maaz> Agreed: theblazehen to chair next meeting
[19:01] <Kilos> yes inetpro i see that
[19:01] <MaNI> oh okay, thanks for the offer, but that won't be necessary, I'll probably be resigning and moving on with my life instead, bit of a touchy subject at the moment :p
[19:02] <chesedo> inetpro: it will be his first iirc - so need to register with maaz and what not
[19:02] <inetpro> MaNI: eish, never give up!
[19:02] <chesedo> MaNI: ok
[19:02] <MaNI> letting go not giving up
[19:03] <chesedo> And that all. Thank you all for joining in on our monthly meeting!
[19:03] <chesedo> Maaz: end meeting 
[19:03] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:03] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-04-25-18-30-35.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-04-25-18-30-35.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-04-25-18-30-35.html
[19:03] <inetpro> that was nice and short, thanks again chesedo
[19:03] <magespawn> As an a side, did anyone else see this ssh ghost@theshell.xyz ?
[19:04] <chesedo> Maaz: atleast the job openings section goes both ways :D
[19:04] <Maaz> chesedo: Huh?
[19:04] <chesedo> MaNI:  atleast the job openings section goes both ways :D
[19:05] <Kilos> ty chesedo very efficient
[19:05] <chesedo> np inetpro Kilos
[19:05] <MaNI> hehe, I have no shortage of work quite the opposite really, I'll probably freelance for a while
[19:05] <chesedo> magespawn: cannot ping it, but ssh works
[19:06] <nsnzero> good evening guys
[19:07] <inetpro> nsnzero: oops, you're late
[19:08] <nsnzero> sorry i missed the meeting 
[19:09] <nsnzero> why did i think it was tomorrow night ???
[19:09] <Kilos> well that just made the meeting
[19:10] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[19:10] <inetpro> nsnzero: too many holidays getting you confused now?
[19:10] <Kilos> before im dropped again
[19:10] <nsnzero> take care Kilos 
[19:10] <inetpro> good night Kilos
[19:10] <Kilos> 'always
[19:10] <inetpro> Kilos: and thanks for joining
[19:10] <Kilos> see you tomorrow
[19:10] <Kilos> ty for reminding me inetpro 
[19:11] <Kilos> i been very slack
[19:11] <magespawn> good night Kilos 
[19:11] <Langjan> nighty night Kilos 
[19:11] <Langjan> slaap lekker
[19:11] <theblazehen> night Kilos
[19:11] <Kilos> membership board membership expiring too but dunno if i should try apply again
[19:11] <Kilos> night all
[19:13] <Langjan> Is there an hplip expert on line?
[19:13] <magespawn> i am also out here, good night all
[19:13] <Langjan> g'night magespawn 
[19:14] <nsnzero> evening Langjan - goodnight magespawn 
[19:14] <Langjan> hi nsnzero you keeping well?
[19:14] <paddatrapper> chesedo: sorry my connection dropped 
[19:15] <nsnzero> yes Langjan and i hope you are in good health as well 
[19:15] <paddatrapper> And was dragged away to sort cleaning the house... 
[19:15] <Langjan> Fine thks nsnzero 
[19:17] <nsnzero> what troubles you having with hplip Langjan ?
[19:17] <nsnzero> i am no expert but i will try to help 
[19:18] <inetpro> good night everyone
[19:18] <Langjan> Thks, nsnzero - It worked fine since installing 16.04 then suddenly seemed to disappear, cannot get it installed again. Seems like a bug
[19:19] <Langjan> System does not even pick up the printer
[19:19] <nsnzero> have you tried sudo apt install hplip --reinstall ?
[19:19] <Langjan> No let me try that 
[19:19] <nsnzero> doesnt show in lsusb ?
[19:19] <Langjan> no
[19:20] <Langjan> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:20] <Langjan>  hplip : Depends: cups (>= 1.1.20)
[19:20] <Langjan>          Depends: printer-driver-hpcups (= 3.16.3+repack0-1) but it is not going to be installed
[19:20] <Langjan> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:21] <nsnzero> did you test the printer on another machine ?
[19:21] <Langjan> yes it works fine on my wife's 14.04
[19:22] <nsnzero> to eliminate the hardware being faulty 
[19:22] <Langjan> Printed some pages a few hours ago via her Ubuntu and hplip
[19:23] <Vince-0> Oi oi
[19:23] <chesedo> oi Vince-0
[19:24] <chesedo> Langjan: try to install the missing dep 'sudo apt install printer-driver-hpcups'
[19:25] <Langjan> Hi chesedo, I have tried, but let me give it another go  
[19:27] <Langjan> Same unmet dependencies output as above when I try to install hpcups chesedo 
[19:27] <Langjan> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:28] <nsnzero> Langjan: try apt search printer-driver-hpcup - want the see what is in the repo
[19:29] <chesedo> Langjan: ouch... hope you get it right
[19:29]  * chesedo is off for the night
[19:29] <nsnzero> night chesedo sleep well
[19:29] <Langjan> printer-driver-hpcups/xenial 3.16.3+repack0-1 amd64
[19:29] <Langjan>   HP Linux Printing and Imaging - CUPS Raster driver (hpcups)
[19:30] <Langjan> bye chesedo sleel well
[19:30] <Langjan> sleep
[19:30] <nsnzero> sudo apt install printer-driver-hpcups  gives any errors ?
[19:31] <Langjan> nsnzero,  the same error message as above
[19:32] <Langjan> And: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[19:32] <Langjan> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[19:32] <Langjan> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[19:32] <Langjan> or been moved out of Incoming.
[19:33] <Langjan> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:33] <nsnzero> update your repos - sudo apt update 
[19:34] <nsnzero> check if any are down 
[19:36] <Langjan> Update and upgrade were fine, but this error came up: It seems that the daemon died.
[19:37] <Langjan> And: Package 'libpam-smbpass' is virtual.
[19:37] <Langjan> Could sudo apt dist-upgrade help? 
[19:37] <nsnzero> smb-pass is related to samba if i am not mistaken 
[19:38] <nsnzero> that will upgrade you to the newest version of ubuntu 
[19:40] <Langjan> Is that a possible problem or solution?
[19:40] <nsnzero> https://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade
[19:41] <nsnzero> it might Langjan - but i broke my system on failed upgrades more than once 
[19:42] <Langjan> I can always revert via Timeshift if need be
[19:43] <nsnzero> well then you can definitely try it 
[19:45] <nsnzero> on my system its install hplip/xenial,now 3.16.3+repack0-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[19:45] <nsnzero> and i dont even have a hp printer !!!
[19:45] <Langjan> Seems I already have latest upgrade installed 
[19:47] <nsnzero> does dmesg | grepp Error show anything ?
[19:47] <nsnzero> grep not grepp
[19:48] <Langjan> nothing
[19:48] <nsnzero> printer plugged in and on ?
[19:48] <Langjan> oh sorry, no
[19:49] <Langjan> still nothing
[19:50] <nsnzero> did you install any new software recently ?
[19:50] <Langjan> Trying to recall, nothing I can remember
[19:51] <nsnzero> lets try sudo apt install --fix-missing
[19:52] <Langjan> Nothing to do
[19:52] <Langjan> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[19:52] <nsnzero> 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu ?
[19:53] <Langjan> 64 bit
[19:55] <nsnzero> sudo apt install cups 
[19:55] <Langjan> Same error message as before
[19:56] <Langjan> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:56] <Langjan> cups : Depends: libcups2 (= 2.1.3-4) but 2.1.3-4ubuntu0.2 is to be installed
[19:56] <Langjan>         Depends: cups-filters (>= 1.0.24-3~) but it is not going to be installed
[19:56] <Langjan> Recommends: printer-driver-gutenprint but it is not going to be installed
[19:57] <Langjan> Recommends: cups-filters (>= 1.0.36) but it is not going to be installed or
[19:57] <Langjan>                     ghostscript-cups (>= 9.02~)
[19:57] <Langjan> And E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:58] <nsnzero> it wont install because it might break other packages 
[19:59] <nsnzero> synaptic has a section that will show conflicting packages
[20:02] <Langjan> It only refers to broken packages, does not identify them - am I at the right place? 
[20:02] <nsnzero> Langjan: sudo apt-get clean will remove broken packages as well 
[20:03] <Langjan> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[20:03] <Langjan> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[20:03] <nsnzero> yes right place which packages are broken ?
[20:03] <Langjan> I have tried clen, will do again
[20:05] <Langjan> Sorry nsnzero finger trouble...
[20:05] <nsnzero> no problem Langjan 
[20:06] <nsnzero> https://askubuntu.com/questions/118749/package-system-is-broken-how-to-fix-it
[20:08] <Langjan> Trying those instructions...
[20:08] <Langjan> thks
[20:10] <nsnzero> wish  i could stay up longer Langjan unfortunately work tomorrow
[20:10] <nsnzero> best of luck 
[20:10] <nsnzero> have a good night 
[20:10] <Langjan> Many thks nsnzero  sleep well 
[20:10] <nsnzero> you as well 
[20:11] <Langjan> thks