[05:36] morning all [06:33] Morning nsnzero [06:34] Hi inetpro chesedo MaNI nuvolari_ paddatrapper thatgraemeguy theblazehen zoidbergwill [06:34] hi andrewlsd [06:52] Morning andrewlsd, nsnzero [06:52] o/ paddatrapper [07:05] hi andrewlsd, and all [07:05] hi theblazehen andrewlsd inetpro paddatrapper and everyone else [07:06] Morning Kilos :-) [07:06] hi Kilos [07:06] hey there Kilos [07:06] :-) [07:06] hi nsnzero [07:06] and vulcan [07:06] ho are you doing Kilos ? [07:06] not ho - but how !!! [07:07] Morning all :) [07:07] ok ty just sleep lots and this connection drives me nuts [07:08] today is a nice day for a warm bed and a good movie [07:09] pretty hot in the Cape today. [07:13] which part of the cape? only 22 here [07:15] MaNI: am expecting it to get a bit warmer as the day progresses. but yip not hot here yet. [07:16] Interesting idea for hosting static sites via google firebase [07:16] free up to 1GB content. [07:16] https://little418.com/ [07:24] andrewlsd: Seen https://github.com/elendirx/web2web? And http://www.cachep2p.com/ [07:26] nope [07:26] * andrewlsd goes to look [07:26] wasn't there a similar project with a .io domain name? [07:27] yeah. "FreeNet" [07:27] and ZeroNet [07:27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_web_hosting [07:27] * andrewlsd goes to check cachep2p [07:43] https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/04/24/2114225/nsas-doublepulsar-kernel-exploit-a-blood [07:44] andrewlsd: I considered using https://github.com/retrohacker/peerweb.js for my site [07:45] https://github.com/elendirx/web2web * [08:01] https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7168 https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3514.txt https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2549 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6214 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4042 [08:01] Some funny RFCs [08:11] lol- set evil bit [08:13] https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/johnla/2015/09/26/the-inside-story-behind-ms08-067/ good read [08:13] nsnzero: I've been thinking of doing that as well [08:49] "Coffee pots heat water using electronic mechanisms, so there is no fire. Thus, no firewalls are necessary..." /me rofl [08:59] lol hi chesedo [09:01] oh yes, hi Kilos andrewlsd nsnzero paddatrapper theblazehen MaNI vulcan and all others [09:01] lol [09:04] Hi chesedo :) [09:05] andrewlsd, if you're wanting to just host static sites, you can do it using AWS S3 as well. And with the free tier you get a decent amount of bucket space / requests for free [09:14] hi chesedo, vulcan [09:15] chesedo, andrewlsd http://pastebin.methlab.lsd.co.za/1gxhiwd1.png what a coincidence [09:23] Hi chesedo, everyone [09:35] good mornings [09:36] hi paddatrapper, inetpro [10:13] Maaz: seen Kilos [10:13] pavlushka: Kilos was last seen 1 hour, 11 minutes and 28 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2017-04-25 11:01:47 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2017-04-25 11:13:27 SAST [10:23] ty vulcan [11:11] nsnzero: You're fine, but have you seen http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2017-8073/ ? [11:29] wb Kilos [11:30] Kilos: remember there's a meeting this evening [11:33] Hi theblazehen [11:50] hi paddatrapper [12:07] passwd [12:07] hunter2 [12:07] hunter2 [12:08] Uh. ENOTTY [12:11] have a good afternoon guys [12:12] ty inetpro dunno for how long with this connection though [12:21] huh [13:57] TIL 501 tabs in firefox on a shitty pentium G4400 makes it slow [15:10] error 501 :-) theblazehen [15:40] lol, the first server error to manifest on the client? :P andrewlsd [17:23] It still ran fine, and was using just 11 or so GB RAM [17:23] Just tab switching was a little slow [17:32] theblazehen: i use a plugin called 'unload' to unload inactive tabs from ram [17:34] chesedo: yeah, tries that before. I've got enough ram, just tree style tabs is the bottleneck I think [17:36] Tried* [17:38] lol -> http://i.imgur.com/NGVwTLz.gif [18:13] good evening ladies and gents [18:16] Hey inetpro [18:17] time of a cup of joe [18:17] Maaz: coffee on [18:17] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [18:17] Kilos: ^^ [18:17] Maaz coffee please [18:17] Kilos: Okay [18:18] ty inetpro [18:21] Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! [18:21] hi londoner [18:21] welcome to ubuntu-za [18:22] Hi everyone [18:22] Maaz thanks man [18:22] Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) [18:22] Maaz: beer on [18:22] Cryterion: Huh? [18:22] damn, can never catch him [18:22] Hi everyone [18:23] hi Cryterion [18:23] Maaz: dankie [18:23] Groot plesier inetpro my vriend [18:23] Heya Kilos how you doing [18:23] ok ty and you? [18:24] all good, just very busy atm [18:25] im bust too hehe trying to keep connected [18:25] busy [18:26] I know the feeling, been running out on site lately, so hardly in the office [18:26] 4 isp's here and all suck [18:26] unstable 2g is the standard [18:27] telkom adsl goes down here at least twice a month [18:27] either their system, or a broken cable [18:27] so sad we have to battle with internet [18:27] or the road works dig up the fibre [18:28] or trucks drive down narrow residential roads and cut the overhead CABLE [18:29] haha yeah [18:29] wiped phones from the whole town [18:29] whew [18:29] lol [18:30] took them 3 days to fix, so that's an improvement I guess [18:30] and here we go!! [18:30] Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - April 2017 [18:30] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:30] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:30] Welcome all and thanks for joining in on our monthly meeting [18:30] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:30] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:30] inetpro: Done [18:30] Maaz i am Miles Sharpe [18:30] Kilos: Righto [18:30] Maaz: I am Jeandre Le Roux [18:30] Our bot maaz does the minutes as usual so please introduce yourself to it using `Maaz: I am ` eg. [18:30] Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:30] theblazehen: What? [18:30] chesedo: Righto [18:30] you 4 minutes early :) [18:31] Maaz: I am Gavin Bauer [18:31] Cryterion: Done [18:31] Maaz: I am Jeandre Le_Roux [18:31] theblazehen: What? [18:31] 8.31 [18:31] The agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170425 [18:31] Any last minute addition are welcome [18:31] Cryterion: no, he's right on time [18:31] Maaz: I am Paul Romano [18:31] londoner: Righto [18:31] * chesedo thought he was 35 secs late [18:31] lol [18:31] ok, clocks slow then :) [18:32] Cryterion: give it redBull :P [18:32] lol [18:32] set your clock to NTP Cryterion [18:32] Maaz: agreed All happy with agenda [18:32] Agreed: All happy with agenda [18:32] Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:32] Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:32] I mean to a NTPd server [18:32] previous meeting minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170328 [18:32] A read of it might be a nice refresher [18:33] I'll look into it later inetpro [18:33] it is weird as i thought linux auto uses ntp years ago... [18:34] Maaz: agreed All happy with previous minutes [18:34] Agreed: All happy with previous minutes [18:34] Maaz: topic Next Steps [18:34] Current Topic: Next Steps [18:34] Anyone needing help on any next steps activities? [18:35] ie. with coc, ubuntu membership, launchpad, mailing list or trello [18:35] All done [18:36] Maaz: agreed No new Next Steps [18:36] Agreed: No new Next Steps [18:36] Maaz: topic Events [18:36] Current Topic: Events [18:36] these are the upcoming events: [18:36] - Typescript on the Backend: 26 April 2017 (Cape Town) -> https://www.meetup.com/Cape-Town-Backend-Developers/events/239100785/ [18:36] - ES2017: The Reality: 3 May 2017 (Cape Town) -> https://www.meetup.com/cape-town-js/events/239181272/ [18:36] - Google I/O Extended '17: 17 May 2017 (Johannesburg) -> https://www.meetup.com/GDGJohannesburg/events/238958547/ [18:36] for any 4th plus year students, this event might be of interest: [18:36] - Deep Learning Indaba: 11-15 September 2017 (Johannesburg) -> http://www.deeplearningindaba.com/ [18:36] We need more in the Durban are [18:37] hi magespawn [18:37] Cryterion: sure do... [18:37] area* [18:37] good evening [18:37] hi Kilos [18:37] hi magespawn [18:37] hi magespawn [18:37] hey chesedo [18:37] paddatrapper: which are you completing? [18:37] hi Cryterion [18:37] s/are/year/ [18:37] magespawn login with maaz please [18:37] magespawn: you joining the meeting? [18:37] Hi Maaz, I am Greg Eames [18:38] lol [18:38] even forgot how to log in. [18:38] maaz first [18:38] Kilos: Sorry... [18:38] magespawn: try 'Maaz: I am ' [18:38] Maaz I am Greg Eames [18:38] magespawn: Alrighty [18:38] Is anyone organising anything else or knows of any other upcoming events? [18:38] Cryterion: ^ :P [18:38] Been awhile [18:39] magespawn: sure has... [18:39] magespawn: i have just gone over the ubuntu membership section, if you wanted to add anything about yours? [18:40] Nothing, except that I have not done anything about it yet [18:40] life has been a bit hectic. [18:40] magespawn: np [18:40] Maaz: agreed No other events to add [18:40] Agreed: No other events to add [18:41] Maaz: topic Miscellaneous [18:41] Current Topic: Miscellaneous [18:41] new events appeared on the slack channel for April after the last meeting... [18:41] so i am wondering if it might not be a good idea to email the list weekly about them? [18:41] about 5 or so was missed [18:41] just do it [18:42] all ideas are good till someone has a better one [18:42] Maaz: agreed To sent a weekly list email with aggregated events [18:42] Agreed: To sent a weekly list email with aggregated events [18:42] Kilos: ty [18:42] Has anyone upgraded to 17.04? [18:43] that'll help I think, mailing list has been quiet latel [18:43] * theblazehen has [18:43] Well, not upgraded. New install [18:43] Not yet, I here there are some issues with the software installer [18:43] Maaz: I am Kyle Robbertze [18:43] paddatrapper: Done [18:43] here=hear [18:43] theblazehen: your experience? [18:43] hi oom jan [18:43] theblazehen: and flavour? [18:44] login to the meeting [18:44] wb paddatrapper [18:44] chesedo: don't remind me, I still need to do some upgrades from 12.04 [18:44] Hello everybody, hi Kilos hoe gaan dit? [18:44] inetpro: lol [18:44] ok ty meeting underway [18:44] i actually made it [18:44] chesedo: Running ubuntu server on server (obviously), then installed kde on laptop and just a WM on desktop. Pretty decent [18:45] Oh ok will chat again tomorrow [18:45] theblazehen: anything new you may have noticed? [18:45] theblazehen: a friend said that the package installer apt had issues [18:45] why Langjan [18:45] chesedo: Nothing too special [18:45] theblazehen: ok [18:45] Langjan pm [18:45] magespawn: what issues? [18:45] magespawn: As in, during the install? `debootstrap` works fine for me :) [18:46] magespawn apt always has issues on 14.04 [18:46] the package install, software center or whatever they are calling it now. [18:46] the gui for apt [18:47] * inetpro just sticks to the cli [18:47] yes, I gave up on it, I always do updates/upgrades via terminal [18:47] * chesedo too, gui take too long to load [18:47] Cli is life. Cli is love [18:48] yup me too. [18:48] but some cannot live without the pretty pictures [18:48] lol, we sound like a bunch of techies/admins [18:48] lol [18:49] on a side note: status for education project is same as last [18:49] I just plug the updates into crontab now [18:49] chesedo: you mean we aren't and my life is a lie? Lol [18:50] Cryterion: Debian unattended-upgrades package :D [18:50] * chesedo realised that exams starts in two weeks so may have little time to test for the edu project in the near future [18:51] inetpro: in the last meeting you mentioned a school that could do with some Ubuntu For Hope PCs? [18:51] chesedo: yikes, you have some available? [18:52] chesedo: karl mentioned that he might have after last meeting (when we spoke) [18:52] may need to get an update though... [18:52] nice, please remind me to follow up with you tomorrow or so [18:52] inetpro: will do [18:52] ty [18:53] anything else for Misc anyone? [18:53] Maaz: agreed chesedo do follow up with inetpro for Ubuntu for Hope / school Pcs [18:53] Agreed: chesedo do follow up with inetpro for Ubuntu for Hope / school Pcs [18:53] Maaz: topic Next meeting [18:53] Current Topic: Next meeting [18:54] next meeting seems to be 23rd May [18:54] and minis on 26 April (tomorrow) and 10 May [18:54] that right? ^^ [18:55] Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 23 May 2017 @ 20:30 [18:55] Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 26 April 2017 & 10 May 2017 @ 20:30 [18:55] Agreed: Next meeting is 26 April 2017 & 10 May 2017 @ 20:30 [18:55] Agreed: Next meeting is 23 May 2017 @ 20:30 [18:55] Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [18:55] Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [18:55] +1 chesedo [18:55] i have an exam on 24th... will have to sit out [18:55] what is the minis? [18:56] paddatrapper: your turn again? [18:56] magespawn: mini meetings is some we took up two months ago [18:56] magespawn: you've been scarce sir [18:56] wow I have been gone long. alrighty then. [18:56] * magespawn hangs head sheepishly [18:57] magespawn: they are quick are cover the 'Latest and Greatest news' by theblazehen, 'Local Job Openings and Help wanted' and 'Ubuntu education project' [18:57] s/are/and/ [18:57] right, i'll attempt to attend those [18:58] MaNI: speaking of which - did you get that php (or something) position filled? [18:58] inetpro: seems that it might be your turn again :D [18:59] sjoe, really nobody else available? [18:59] theblazehen: maybe you want to take a swing at it? [18:59] * Cryterion hides in a corner [18:59] chesedo: Alright, sure [18:59] \o/ [18:59] * chesedo fetches a flashlight to find Cryterion :P [18:59] theblazehen: great ty [18:59] * Cryterion moves corners [19:00] big sigh of relief, thanks theblazehen [19:00] No problem [19:00] inetpro: will you show him the ropes on the day [19:00] chesedo, hehe nope haven't even advertised it yet, why do you ask? [19:00] inetpro: and be backup? [19:00] hahaha he always ducks [19:00] I'll gladly assist if he doesn't know how already [19:01] MaNI: mini meeting tomorrow has Job Openings section - if you have its details [19:01] Kilos: the young ones are good at this man :-) [19:01] Maaz: agreed theblazehen to chair next meeting [19:01] Agreed: theblazehen to chair next meeting [19:01] yes inetpro i see that [19:01] oh okay, thanks for the offer, but that won't be necessary, I'll probably be resigning and moving on with my life instead, bit of a touchy subject at the moment :p [19:02] inetpro: it will be his first iirc - so need to register with maaz and what not [19:02] MaNI: eish, never give up! [19:02] MaNI: ok [19:02] letting go not giving up [19:03] And that all. Thank you all for joining in on our monthly meeting! [19:03] Maaz: end meeting [19:03] Meeting Ended [19:03] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-04-25-18-30-35.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-04-25-18-30-35.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-04-25-18-30-35.html [19:03] that was nice and short, thanks again chesedo [19:03] As an a side, did anyone else see this ssh ghost@theshell.xyz ? [19:04] Maaz: atleast the job openings section goes both ways :D [19:04] chesedo: Huh? [19:04] MaNI: atleast the job openings section goes both ways :D [19:05] ty chesedo very efficient [19:05] np inetpro Kilos [19:05] hehe, I have no shortage of work quite the opposite really, I'll probably freelance for a while [19:05] magespawn: cannot ping it, but ssh works [19:06] good evening guys [19:07] nsnzero: oops, you're late [19:08] sorry i missed the meeting [19:09] why did i think it was tomorrow night ??? [19:09] well that just made the meeting [19:10] night all, sleep tight [19:10] nsnzero: too many holidays getting you confused now? [19:10] before im dropped again [19:10] take care Kilos [19:10] good night Kilos [19:10] 'always [19:10] Kilos: and thanks for joining [19:10] see you tomorrow [19:10] ty for reminding me inetpro [19:11] i been very slack [19:11] good night Kilos [19:11] nighty night Kilos [19:11] slaap lekker [19:11] night Kilos [19:11] membership board membership expiring too but dunno if i should try apply again [19:11] night all === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Please help oom Kilos! https://www.gofundme.com/ReunionRoadblock/ | Ubuntu South Africa https://ubuntu-za.org | Next Meeting: Tue, 23 May 20:30, Agenda: https://bit.ly/2q3O71c | Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | pastebin: https://bin.snyman.info | picpaste: http://pasteboard.co [19:13] Is there an hplip expert on line? [19:13] i am also out here, good night all [19:13] g'night magespawn [19:14] evening Langjan - goodnight magespawn [19:14] hi nsnzero you keeping well? [19:14] chesedo: sorry my connection dropped [19:15] yes Langjan and i hope you are in good health as well [19:15] And was dragged away to sort cleaning the house... [19:15] Fine thks nsnzero [19:17] what troubles you having with hplip Langjan ? [19:17] i am no expert but i will try to help [19:18] good night everyone [19:18] Thks, nsnzero - It worked fine since installing 16.04 then suddenly seemed to disappear, cannot get it installed again. Seems like a bug [19:19] System does not even pick up the printer [19:19] have you tried sudo apt install hplip --reinstall ? [19:19] No let me try that [19:19] doesnt show in lsusb ? [19:19] no [19:20] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [19:20] hplip : Depends: cups (>= 1.1.20) [19:20] Depends: printer-driver-hpcups (= 3.16.3+repack0-1) but it is not going to be installed [19:20] E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [19:21] did you test the printer on another machine ? [19:21] yes it works fine on my wife's 14.04 [19:22] to eliminate the hardware being faulty [19:22] Printed some pages a few hours ago via her Ubuntu and hplip === qwebirc17936 is now known as Vince-0 [19:23] Oi oi [19:23] oi Vince-0 [19:24] Langjan: try to install the missing dep 'sudo apt install printer-driver-hpcups' [19:25] Hi chesedo, I have tried, but let me give it another go [19:27] Same unmet dependencies output as above when I try to install hpcups chesedo [19:27] E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [19:28] Langjan: try apt search printer-driver-hpcup - want the see what is in the repo [19:29] Langjan: ouch... hope you get it right [19:29] * chesedo is off for the night [19:29] night chesedo sleep well [19:29] printer-driver-hpcups/xenial 3.16.3+repack0-1 amd64 [19:29] HP Linux Printing and Imaging - CUPS Raster driver (hpcups) [19:30] bye chesedo sleel well [19:30] sleep [19:30] sudo apt install printer-driver-hpcups gives any errors ? [19:31] nsnzero, the same error message as above [19:32] And: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have [19:32] requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable [19:32] distribution that some required packages have not yet been created [19:32] or been moved out of Incoming. [19:33] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [19:33] update your repos - sudo apt update [19:34] check if any are down [19:36] Update and upgrade were fine, but this error came up: It seems that the daemon died. [19:37] And: Package 'libpam-smbpass' is virtual. [19:37] Could sudo apt dist-upgrade help? [19:37] smb-pass is related to samba if i am not mistaken [19:38] that will upgrade you to the newest version of ubuntu [19:40] Is that a possible problem or solution? [19:40] https://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade [19:41] it might Langjan - but i broke my system on failed upgrades more than once [19:42] I can always revert via Timeshift if need be [19:43] well then you can definitely try it [19:45]