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IronDevBashing-om: You think I should roll back to an older kernel00:00
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BetaSoulAny one know of a halfway decent command line viop client? I want something I can run as a daemon.00:10
BetaSoulHeadless if possible.00:10
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Bashing-omIronDev: Fi not know . is amdgpu-PRO the corrent driver for the card ? ' inxi -G '  to show the card info .00:14
IronDevBashing-om: Yes, the card is RX 48000:15
Bashing-omIronDev: confirmed . RX 480 and amdgpu-PRO . --- I do not know how to ourge/re-install AMD's driver anymore .00:19
Bashing-ompurge*00:20
craigbass76What's the best way to get a service to start at boot? I've got /etc/init.d/servicename, and ran sudo update-rc.d servicename defaults, and on a 16.04 box that worked. I appear to have accidentally grabbed 17.04 for this box though, and I'm just going to keep it00:24
EriC^^!systemd | craigbass7600:25
ubottucraigbass76: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units00:25
nacccraigbass76: if you do decide to keep 17.04, please keep in mind the difference in support schedules00:29
craigbass76EriC^^: Gah! knew this was coming...00:29
craigbass76nacc: what do you mean? I was just going to go to 17.10 when it came out, then to 18.04 and stick there for a bit00:30
nacccraigbass76: right, just make sure you do, 17.04 goes eol in 9 months00:30
nacccraigbass76: many people install a non-LTS and then forget to update it seems (based upon this channel's history)00:30
craigbass76nacc: I think I learned my lesson with Hardy, but it might have been the I (Ibis?) one.00:31
nacccraigbass76: ok )00:31
craigbass76Been sticking with LTS since. I wasn't paying attention when I grabbed Lubuntu Friday...00:31
Adam_Does anyone know when the first 17.10 Daily Build will be released?00:35
bazhangAdam_, #ubuntu+1 for support and discussion00:36
cnnxi created a ubuntu usb boot disk from win10 and booted on my win10 laptop to but it didnt detect any bootable usb00:40
cnnxmaybe my thinkpad cant boot from usb?00:42
matt__I believe there is a vulnerabillity in Bluez and bluetooth applet i don't even have a blue tooth adapter installed in my desktop pc and i keep getting bluetooth connections?00:55
matt__when i try to remove the printer or bluetooth drivers it then wants to remove MATE so whats this about i don't understand is Ubuntu Mate broken ???00:57
segersjerryHi, I have an internal HD that was owned root.root. I changed it to root.<my user group> and chmodded it to give group write access. My questions are: is this likely to bite me in the ass later? Is there a better way?00:58
matt__i think thats bad jerry01:00
matt__any word when the 16.10 LTS will be released i am still running GTK 2.0 and there is a huge vuln i think with the way bluez interacts with the network even without an Adapter01:02
matt__i saw something about the vuln i think but it says that this is fixed in 16.10 is this true or false?01:02
matt__ello? anybody there?01:03
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bazhangmatt__, file a bug, join it and see if it is seen as duplicate01:03
virtualriotI forgot how to register my nick01:04
virtualriotThe syntax01:04
matt__how do i do that>>with the report an issue aplication01:04
matt__??01:04
p3rrorHello01:04
bazhangvirtualriot, on freenode?01:04
virtualriotYes01:04
p3rroris it possible to rewrite arpwatch on only bash01:04
bazhangvirtualriot, why not ask on #freenode01:04
virtualriotCause you know01:04
matt__i'll try that thanx01:04
bazhangmatt__, you yourself said the bluez package01:05
matt__well i have been researching the issue for a few days ever since i noticed it . i never use boothtooth so i sortof happened upon by chance01:06
matt__i knew something was amiss so i started looking at stuff you know and kept coming up in syslog and i get an error on start up when the welcome screen plays the animation...the warning states as follows01:07
bazhangmatt__, put that in the bug report01:08
matt__Ubuntu mate has experienced an internal error then goves opt to ignore and report, two check boxes the rror pops up after welcome upgrade01:08
matt__srry *gives01:08
matt__i did not report or ignore01:09
matt__i think its maybe a way to trick someone into giving up they're sys info01:10
bazhangmatt__, no it's not01:10
matt__and something else may or may not be related but ubuntu mate went to sleep but i had disabled the option to sleep and have it set to never unless the setting was changed01:11
matt__so anyhow i saw a forum post similar to the question i was asking about the mysterious bluetooth connections like i can see there was a recent connection it's still in the list of recent connections but my system has no bluetooth adapter unless it's embedded in the motherboard it doesn't show up in any hardware profile01:14
jardashow to install external wifi adapter for ubuntu?01:15
bazhangjardas, usb?01:15
matt__anyone know how to decrypt 64 bit connection bluetooth connection name string cause that might give me some insite into whats going on with it or at least where the connection is comming from01:16
matt__not sure what to call it the bluetooth thingamajigger\01:16
matt__lol01:16
mate__ok01:22
mate__hi01:22
mate__@adamg01:23
mate__hi @mizu_no_oto01:24
matt__i noticed some config changes aswell ['!DiscvManager', '!GameControllerWakelock', '!Headset', '!NMDUNSupport', '!NMPANSupport', '!Networking', '!SerialManager', '!TransferService', '!DhcpClient', '!PPPSupport', '!AuthAgent', '!KillSwitch', 'ShowConnected']01:24
mizu_no_otohi mate__01:24
matt__ok so those changes were made apparently for this mysterious connection01:25
matt__there is a playstation 4 in the house that uses bluetooth thats it01:25
matt__i also instlled Wine staging packages could this be an internal connection to configure mono or geko?01:26
bazhangmatt__, ask about that in #winehq01:27
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matt__the recent connections shows this for value eNprYPJmiC1kaCtk1AMAEQ4Cwg==01:28
matt__i don't know how to decrypt this so i have no idea where its coming from01:29
bazhang#winehq matt__01:29
matt__yes01:29
theToolmanthat looks like encode6401:29
matt__2.401:29
theToolmanbase64 encode01:29
bazhang /join #winehq matt__01:29
matt__yes but istalled with multi arch support01:29
matt__1386 amdx6401:30
matt__useing GNU drivers01:30
bazhangmatt__, #winehq is a channel to join01:30
matt__it's an HP p6687C01:30
matt__amd chipset amd graphics card amd network adapter01:31
matt__realtec internal audio01:31
bazhangmatt__, are you reading what I have written here01:31
matt__well ok but my queestion is about Bluez package default install Ubuntu MAte 16.0401:32
bazhangmatt__, yes01:32
bazhangmatt__, and the action there is to file a bug01:32
matt__maybe i answered my own question thanx i will check winehq and see if this is normal ops01:33
matt__i noticed the changes to the config and looks like setting up for controller support and networking two thing winehq could possibly need so thank you have a great day i will quest for answers there lol goodnight all01:34
PMantis13hello sll01:37
PMantis13all01:37
PMantis13just installing ubuntu, and the same old problem persists: PARTITIONS01:37
PMantis13I want one for root, boot, and swap01:37
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Unlinehas anyone here got these books ? sed and awk 101 hacks - bash 101 hacks ?01:38
PMantis13root is primary, right? do I use ext4? boot, primary or logical? ext4 or ext2? swap parittion I'm fine hehe01:38
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ubottuUnline: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:38
naccPMantis13: you don't need anything but a / partition01:44
naccPMantis13: unless you are very confident, don't bother with a /boot partition01:44
naccPMantis13: and you can use swapfiles (the default in 17.04+, iirc) rather than a dedicated swap partition01:44
PMantis13since I have windows in another disk, where will grub be installed?01:44
PMantis13in root?01:44
naccPMantis13: grub is installed in the boot sector of the boot disk (or if using efi, i believe there is some magic there)01:45
PMantis13hmm I'll stick only with / then01:46
PMantis13I use ext4 or xfs?01:46
naccPMantis13: afaik (I don't use windows), you shouldn't need a /boot to dualboot, they are unrelated01:46
PMantis13for root01:46
naccPMantis13: your choice, ext4 is the default01:46
naccPMantis13: are you using lots of large files?01:46
naccalso, why do people all of a sudden want to use XFS as their root fs?01:47
PMantis13internet told me that instead of using ext4 haha01:47
naccyou're not the first, PMantis13, but honestly, I've not heard of anyone using it on their non-server systems in a long while, it feels like01:47
PMantis13oh, ext4 it is01:47
naccPMantis13: if you have lots of large files (this is my historical kernel dev recollection), XFS can be a lot more performant01:47
naccPMantis13: but ext4 is probably fine for almost everyone01:47
doge-dogeanyone here have issues with their Walgreens account? on Ubuntu. with the latest Firefox.01:48
PMantis13I'm a beginner, don't want to start messing with the very unknown, since everything else is pretty unknown01:48
naccPMantis13: ack, then use ext401:48
naccPMantis13: you can have a swap partition, but it's very workload specific if you'll even used it01:48
nacc*use01:48
doomlord_qtcreator in the ubuntu repositories - it's only version 3.5 ?01:49
PMantis13I made a swap with my RAM size01:51
PMantis138192mb01:51
PMantis13and root partition, the rest01:51
PMantis13around 232gb01:51
PMantis13installing the bootloader in this same disk01:52
PMantis13dunno if it will conflict with the bootloader that I had on my archlinux on the other disk01:52
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doomlord_ubuntu 'unity' is going to be discontinued?01:59
bazhangdoomlord_, in 18.0402:00
skinnymg1hola02:01
doomlord_they're moving to gnome-shell by default?02:01
bazhangdoomlord_, thats a year away, whatever gnome is offering at that point02:02
doomlord_ok.  Last time I tried gnome-shell... i despised it,    I usually use XFCE these days, but should revise my choices i guess02:03
bazhangdoomlord_, it's a year away, so not really topical here, you could join the gnome channel, and their mailing lists02:03
k_szeCould somebody explain why somebody would recommend installing libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-vivid on 14.04 Trusty?02:04
nacck_sze: whoever is recommending that should not be02:05
bazhangk_sze, that recommendation was made in error then02:05
nacck_sze: you maybe want libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial if you want the 14.04.5 hwe stack02:05
nacck_sze: but you do not want to install the 14.04.3 stack (it's no longer supported)02:06
nacc!hwe | k_sze: see the graphs here02:06
ubottuk_sze: see the graphs here: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack02:06
Jordan_Uk_sze: What problem are you trying to solve?02:06
k_szeJordan_U: I'm playing with libfreenect2 (https://github.com/OpenKinect/libfreenect2/), on both Intel x64 and Arm v7l platforms, running Trusty 14.0402:08
shurtugalanyone know how to install cairo dock on ubuntu mate 17.0402:08
k_szeAnd the installation instructions say to install libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-vivid02:08
k_szeso I'm wondering why.02:08
Jordan_Uk_sze: it might need a newer libgl, and the instructions may have been written before libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial existed (and before libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-vivid stopped being supported).02:10
k_szeI see.02:11
nacck_sze: because like many open source project, their docs are out of date, probably02:11
naccnote also02:11
nacc!info freenect trusty | k_sze02:11
ubottuk_sze: freenect (source: libfreenect): library for accessing Kinect device -- metapackage. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:0.2.0+dfsg-2 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 34 kB02:11
Bashing-om!vivid | k_sze02:12
ubottuk_sze: Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on February 4, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/vivid02:12
k_szenacc: that's the *old* freenect02:12
k_sze!info freenect202:12
ubottuPackage freenect2 does not exist in zesty02:12
k_sze!info libfreenect202:12
ubottuPackage libfreenect2 does not exist in zesty02:12
k_szebleh02:12
nacck_sze: i see02:12
nacck_sze: it would appear that debian's watch file is out of date: https://packages.qa.debian.org/libf/libfreenect.html02:14
thingfishI don't get it.  My connection to freenode times out about every hour.  Lots of times I get a broken pipe message from Pidgin.  This doesn't happen in Windows.  It doesn't even happen when I have Ubuntu in a VM in Windows - just when I boot to Ubuntu on metal.02:15
thingfishis this common?  I hope.02:15
Jordan_Uthingfish: If you leave "ping irc.freenode.net" running does it ever start having issues? (For a better test you would ping the exact server that your IRC client ends up connecting to).02:17
k_szenacc: libfreenect and libfreenect2 are two completely different beasts. The former was written for Kinect v1, the latter for Kinect v2. libfreenect2 is not compatible and does not replace libfreenect in any way.02:17
thingfishJordan_U: good idea - I'll check that out.02:17
thingfishthanks02:18
nacck_sze: ok, good luck then02:18
k_szenacc: but in general, I really shouldn't install something like `libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-vivid` stand-alone, right?02:18
k_szeI should install the whole HWE?02:19
nacck_sze: you shouldn't install such a package anymore02:19
nacck_sze: that's totally up to you02:19
segersjerryubuntu gnome 17.04 here, I want to make the screen warmer all the time, but under the color control panel there is no add profile button like the help screen says to use. What am I doing wrong?02:19
segersjerrynevermind, I deleted the default profile and it gave me an add button :)02:25
auztyhello, im new on ubuntu, how i can determine heavy load or not ? i have 1 core , free memory still 500Mb , but cpu usage on 1,5,15 is 14.06,14.91,15.2902:31
wedgieauzty: that seems a bit much. What are you running on it?02:33
Bashing-omauzty: The tool top to know the system loads : http://tecadmin.net/understanding-linux-top-command-results-uses/# .02:35
auztyi research glusterfs wedgie :D , and it's heavy i think, it's seems i need more resource right?02:37
wedgieauzty: the load averages aren't everything, but in general you don't want to see more than the number of cores you have for an extended period of time. But this varys by what the actual workload02:38
wedgiesomething like vmstat can give you a better idea of what resouces are actually being used (lets you tell if your problem is memory, cpu usage, disk io, and so on)02:39
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Guest8738hello! I made a wrong quota for a user, the user had the same GUID as a group, and thus is now called the group name and has the group homedir. how do I completly erase a user from quota? :)03:03
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tallerhello friends !03:09
guest_NewbieWould someone assist me in installing Davinci Resolve.03:10
guest_Newbie?03:10
auztythanks for help wedgie, seems my CPU are heavy on vmstat, almost no idle time (id) and many time spent waiting (wa) , example my output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/24451943/03:11
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mjrosenbI just installed 17.04-gnome on my laptop, and hibernate doesn't work.  when I run pm-hibernate, it just returns immediately, and doesn't even attempt to hibernate03:25
mjrosenbany idea what could be wrong?03:25
mjrosenband nothing is printed in dmesg when I run pm-suspend03:26
ZJAYis there a browser for ubuntu that will still or now play flash sites like hbogo.com showtime etc....????03:40
xtpeepsfirefox03:48
guest_NewbieAm needing some HELP PLEASE. https://pastebin.com/raw/SR8xVnKq03:52
Ben64guest_Newbie: why are you linking stuff?03:55
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pynkihi, is there a list somewhere what the tasksel option in a server install include?04:07
pynkioptions*04:08
ubnianyone code in python here?04:09
pynkiwhat do you need? pm, thats not the right place here to discuss python issues04:10
ubniI am sorry,but I tried python and learn programming and got nothing. Also was wondering if setsocketopt is unix specific or is just a generalcommand.04:11
ubniBecause I had two tutorials and one had it the other didn't. THe only difference was Windows VS linux.04:11
pynkiMany constants of these forms, documented in the Unix documentation on sockets and/or the IP protocol, are also defined in the socket module. They are generally used in arguments to the setsockopt() and getsockopt() methods of socket objects. In most cases, only those symbols that are defined in the Unix header files are defined; for a few symbols, default values are provided.04:12
pynkibut honestly - do not discuss python issues here please. some would consider it spam04:13
pynkihttps://docs.python.org/2/library/socket.html states that it implements the BSD socket interface. first setence. so its bound to implementations of that interface. doubt that windows implements that04:14
ubniok04:14
ubniThat is what I figured. At the moment I amusing Windows, but I was implementing SSL and realized the setsocketopt was put in there.04:15
ubniI appreciate it04:15
ubniI tried to google and such, and the only clueI got was in the book where is said POSIX04:15
ubniso I assumed04:15
guest_NewbieBen64: Because I was told before to use pastebin and I was trying to do that...04:16
pynkibookmark the documentation... ubni04:16
ubniWill do.04:17
pynkiand stay away from "implementing ssl" - there are libs out there that are well proven to be kinda secure - you will not beat that ;) if its for fun and learning make sure you never conenct that software to the internet04:17
guest_NewbieBen64: I need help understanding why I couldn't install the program and tried to pastebin what I did.04:18
CarlFKI am looking for what I am guessing is called grub-net - the bios boot version of http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/zesty/main/uefi/grub2-amd64/current/grubnetx64.efi04:18
ubniI was worried about the SSL library built in04:18
ubniI heard mixed reviews, and I did not know if it broke all of it, or just openSSL04:19
pynkicompile tha latest version of opensll yourself, link everything else against it and you will be finde - if you are really worried. otherwise stay with what ubuntu gives you - should be secure enough to keep the russians/chinese.north koreans/whatever scammers/hackers/ransomware-dudes away04:20
pynkiif you need to worry about the nsa and stuff - your fucked...04:21
ubnitrue. Do you think PGP is NSA proof?04:21
ubniFor the most part?04:21
ubniI have not heard anything about PGP, and OTR seems to have eluded them.04:21
pynkiwho knows what kind of quantum-deeplearning-bigdata thing they have going on deep below the desert...04:22
ubniTrue.04:22
ubniI know nothing is for certain.04:22
ubniI just want to know what my best odds are.04:22
pynkithe protocol will not be the attacked point. they will attack the device to get the decrypted data for free. and there are plenty of things to attackl on any device. and who knows what kind of hardware-fuckery the chinese deliver when you buy a "insert every chip here"04:23
ubnilol04:23
ubnitrue.04:23
ubniI was thinking about implementing PGP for some software in the future, but it seems like many of the libs are only for linux.04:24
ubnior mac.04:24
ubniWhich might be a pain if I wanted mass adoption.04:25
pynkiperhaps you read the story about one of the shadowsocks devs? chinese officials just showed up to his house and talked to him and he was done with doing shadowsocks ;)04:25
ubniwow04:25
guest_NewbieBen64: I see now I used the wrong pastebin...04:27
guest_Newbiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24452277/plain/04:27
ubniFound the library. I was worried because in php pgp is only available for linux and mac.04:28
guest_NewbieCould use some help understanding my mistake, please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452277/plain/04:28
ubniWhich sucks because I want to make a web interface for this idea.04:28
pynkiguest_Newbie, is there an option to make that paste public? i only see a login page of a service i do not want to register with04:33
casawicome installare kodi 17 su debian04:49
pynkicasawi, first: english here, second: ubuntu questions, and finally: this package04:51
pynkihttps://packages.debian.org/sid/video/kodi04:51
pynkicasawi, see this for ubuntu http://www.infoworld.com/article/3167532/linux/linux-how-to-install-kodi-17.html04:52
casawipynki scaricato packages come install04:53
pynkiapt-get install packageName04:55
pynkiif that was the question...jsut guessing04:55
casawiopen terminal sudo apt-get packages04:55
guest_Newbiepynki: I don't know...I followed the link above http://paste.ubuntu.com/ problem #1 I am a newbie.04:57
casawi./kodi_17.1+dfsg1-2_amd64.deb: 2: ./kodi_17.1+dfsg1-2_amd64.deb: Syntax error: newline unexpected04:59
lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:05
pynkimoin moin05:06
kasperIs there any way to prevent ubuntu from triggering keyboard shortcuts when using fullscreen applications?05:09
kasperor should I say, prevent ubuntu from listening for those shortcuts?05:10
YankDownUnderkasper: It would be dependent on the DE/WM you're using, really...generally...05:11
kasperThat doesn't help...Ubuntu 16.04 so that'd be, what, X window manager with all that unity stuff on top of it.05:13
igsenWhere does firefox temporarily save the buffered cache of youtube?05:14
kasperSo...no one knows how to get Ubuntu to stop listening for keyboard shortcuts when fullscreen apps take over?05:18
YankDownUnderkasper: Yes. What "Desktop" are you using?05:18
YankDownUnderBear in mind that even though there are heaps of folks IN this channel, patience is important.05:19
kasperUnity. And I understand that but it's hard to be patient with over 1000 people here...05:19
kasperI ban idlers in my channels. *shrug*05:19
YankDownUnderkasper: Right. Unity. So you'd have to change the attributes of the "window" that the program starts in. Actually, that would be regardless of "window manager" or "desktop".05:20
YankDownUnderkasper: Since this channel has existed for quite a few years, maybe you should advise Canonical of that information pertaining to banning idle users.05:20
kasperIf I thought they'd listen...lol. Anyway, so is this something I'll have to do for every program I don't want ubuntu hijacking the shortcuts for?05:21
kasperOR rather, probably untiy's doing the hijacking...but either way...05:22
YankDownUnderkasper: Again, if you're only using Unity, you'd be working out how the "launchers" launch the programs - there *should* be a means by which to change those advanced settings (as with most other window managers)05:22
YankDownUnderUnity would be doing it (or the window mangler that Unity uses)05:22
kasper...so you don't know the specifics?05:22
EKaahi05:23
LibertyWeNeedI am still having trouble with the screen flickering on my moms new ThinkPad T460 . How do I fix this? Is this something to do with the kernel? I need everything to work, because otherwise I will have to put windows 10 (which i really don't want to) on her computer so it is working. Please help.05:23
YankDownUnderkasper: Personally, I despised Unity from the day it was brought out. So I can't be of help in anything other than what I have stated. I'd suggest digging through the forums/wikis05:24
kasperugh...ok. Thanks for trying but I've been doing that for a week now. Maybe I'm not using the right queries or whatever...05:24
YankDownUnderkasper: Think of a query - and then RE-think the query - use different wordings, too...as well, if anyone has not advised you - you might want to install "unity-tweak-tool"...05:25
kasperI have it. There's nothing there of help.05:26
kasperAlso toyed with CCSM and can find nothing that will help, short of permanently disabling the shortcuts...which is not an option.05:26
YankDownUnderkasper: So, just for giggles and grins, you HAVE looked at the settings for the launcher(s) for the programs you're running, yes?05:26
alvarohola05:27
kasperI -THINK- so. If by that you mean I checked the launcher properties via alacarte.05:27
alvaromexico05:27
hateball!mx | alvaro05:27
hateballhmm05:27
YankDownUnderkasper: Yeah...that'd be it.05:28
alvarohola hatabel05:28
YankDownUnder!ubuntu-es05:28
kasperYeah, I'm not about to go raw editing .desktop files...05:28
hateball!es05:28
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:28
kasperUnless I have to.05:28
YankDownUnderkasper: They're merely text files.05:29
kasperSo is a .jpg when you open it in gedit. Doesn't mean I understand the text. lol05:29
kasperAnyway, there's nothing there that even begins to look like it would be helpful to me. Bear in mind I'm kind of a linux idiot still, so if it's not a check box that says "Disable keyboard shortcuts" i probably wouldn't recognize it as helpful.05:31
YankDownUnderOddly enough, a textfile - like the .desktop files - aren't graphics, nor in hex or binary.05:31
YankDownUnderkasper: Forums and wikis and Google, my friend...05:31
kasperNo...I'm afraid I simply won't do that any longer. If it really comes to that, I'll just distro hop till I find one that behaves the way it should.05:32
kasper:\05:32
YankDownUnderkasper: Isn't it easier to just install another window manager/desktop? (like minutes instead of DAYS)05:32
alvarocomo me cambio de canal?05:32
YankDownUnderalvaro: Hablamos ingles en aqui...05:33
kasperPossibly...might be worth a try. Though a new OS is only minutes away, really. lol05:33
alvarosi   ya me di cuenta05:34
YankDownUnderkasper: Your choice, your dime.05:34
alvaropero como le hago para entrar a un canal en espanol?05:34
YankDownUnderalvaro: #ubuntu-es esta para Espanol05:34
pynkiis the minimal cd missing anyuthing i would need to run the ubuntu in a hyper-v vm?05:34
alvarogracias05:34
YankDownUnderalvaro: de nada, amigo05:35
kasperWorst part is...I'm not even entirely sure shortcuts are my problem. lol05:35
YankDownUnderkasper: What are you trying to run - the app - that's giving you issues...?05:36
kasperLong story short: I run xonotic, my mouse moves like side to side, but I get moments where the buttons don't respond until I double-click. Almost as if I have to refocus on the xonotic window.05:36
kasperGame is fullscreen though and it only seems to happen when I have desktop cube set to trigger with the mouse.05:36
YankDownUnderkasper: Um...Xonotic?05:37
theyesmenxonotic is a game05:37
kasperxonotic. The freeware fork from Nexuiz, a gorgeous shooter.05:37
YankDownUnderAH...a game...right...does it make money or is it used for running a biz?05:37
theyesmenwtf05:37
LibertyWeNeedDoes Ubuntu have updated drivers for Intel HD Graphics 520 ?05:38
LibertyWeNeedHow do I check and install?05:38
kasperI use it as a demonstration piece, actually. So in a way it helps my business. Not that I see how it matters one way or another.05:38
YankDownUnderLibertyWeNeed: Have you checked the website for the release you have?05:38
LibertyWeNeedI don't know how and what I am suppose to look for.05:38
YankDownUnderkasper: So here's a question for ya - because I've run "full screen" stuff AND used compiz with all the bells and whistles... - have you done an "exlusion" of the key mappings for that particular program in ccsm?05:39
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absolutly_clueleHello! Trying to set up localhost mailserver (school project), I followed this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-a-mail-server-using-postfix-dovecot-mysql-and-spamassassin but when trying to access the accounts with SquirrelMail I get a " 111 : Connection refused" error, any hints? :)05:40
kasperThat would be a negative since I am unaware of exactly how one would do such a thing.05:40
YankDownUnderkasper: (Last time I used it) - there was a means by which to exclude - in "General" and also in the "Extras" section of CCSM...however, that was last year...things may have changed...but I excluded a particular program that I ran in full-screen so that I could still use the cube/desk...that being said, if you really want to play the game, couldn't you merely disable the cube until you're done playing the game?05:42
YankDownUnderkasper: It was under "window management"...yeah...now I remember-er-er05:43
kasperNo such setting now...nor can I find the old keybinding to toggle desktop effects globally (Used to be shift+f12, I believe) And yes I can...but that isn't exactly an effective demonstration of Ubuntu eye candy. lol05:43
YankDownUnderkasper: "Enable Legacy Support" => in ccsm05:45
lotuspsychjeabsolutly_cluele: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might point you in right direction?05:45
kasper"Legacy Fullscreen SUpport"? Under workarounds?05:45
YankDownUnderkasper: Or rather "Enable Legacy Fullscreen Support" - sorry...05:45
YankDownUnderEither which, time for tea (dinner) for me. Ciao!05:46
kasperThanks for the assist. I need to go troubleshoot anyway.05:46
lotuspsychjeLibertyWeNeed: sudo lshw -C video behind driver= shows your version05:51
kpchello how can i ignore a dependacy for ./configure06:07
lotuspsychjekpc: can you explain us the whole story? ubuntu version? what are you trying to do?06:08
kpcubuntu 16.04 im trying to compile a playstation emulator and its hangs on libnautilus-burn, the documentation says its optional but i cant get past it06:08
lotuspsychjekpc: there are few playstation emulators in the repos, why are you trying to compile?06:10
lotuspsychje!info pcsxr | kpc06:11
ubottukpc: pcsxr (source: pcsxr): Sony PlayStation emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.94-2 (zesty), package size 646 kB, installed size 2490 kB06:11
kpcthats the one im trying to make06:11
RonaldScottFromTHello this is Ronald Scott with the CIA's Division of Cyber Crimes, we were tipped about a rogue botnet via our own IRC servers.06:11
lotuspsychjekpc: you can just sudo apt install pcsxr if you want06:12
lotuspsychjeRonaldScottFromT: you joined the ubuntu support channel here06:12
hateball!compile | kpc06:12
ubottukpc: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall06:12
RonaldScottFromTYes we were tipped about a rogue botnet here06:12
kpci dont think a real cia agent would identify himself in a irc channel06:13
lotuspsychjeRonaldScottFromT: this is not the place for such questions06:13
kpc>:-)06:13
ilzolendehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone doesn't seem to give much photo importing advice06:13
RonaldScottFromTWe are here to investigate your freenode channel06:13
lotuspsychje!ops | RonaldScottFromT06:13
ubottuRonaldScottFromT: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu06:13
RonaldScottFromTMy superiors and I have agreed to come back tomorrow06:14
lotuspsychjelol06:14
jink:')06:14
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ilzolendehey so can i pester people about photo importing again now?06:15
jinkNot unless you're from the CIA.06:16
ilzolendeit shows up as a camera and it shows me image previews in shotwell but then it fails to import the images06:16
ilzolendesaying stuff like06:16
ilzolendePhotos/Videos Not Imported Due to Camera Errors:06:16
ilzolendeIMG_1521.JPG06:16
ilzolendeerror message: [-107] Error retrieving file object for /DCIM/101APPLE/IMG_1521.JPG: Unknown error06:16
ilzolendefor every single photo06:16
kpcthat emulator just crashes when i try to load iso's06:17
kpci have pSX im trying to compile, is their a way to skip dependantcy06:17
jinkilzolende: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1178256 ?06:17
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1178256 in shotwell "shotwell will not import photos from ios8" [Unspecified,Closed: eol]06:17
lotuspsychjekpc: if you find a bug in a package please create a new !bug06:17
ilzolendei'm fine with using a non-shotwell program06:18
ilzolendealso i can't navigate to the dcim folder06:18
ilzolendei get to gphoto2://[usb:001,006]/ and try to open store_0001000106:18
ilzolendeand it says "Failed to get folder list: -1: Unspecified error."06:19
ilzolendei mean i get photos off of my android by copying them off of the dcim folder, but idk how to get to the dcim folder here06:19
lotuspsychje!iphone | ilzolende06:19
ubottuilzolende: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod06:19
ilzolendeaha, thanks06:20
kpchow can i find the folder it installed to?06:20
kpcsays i may need a bios file in the folder06:20
ilzolende...this article doesn't mention photos at all06:20
ilzolendelibimobiledevice doesn't seem to exist?06:21
nussbaumerwow06:23
nussbaumerhi06:23
ilzolendeok, libimobiledevice is on github but not on apt06:24
pynkiilzolende, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/libimobiledevice06:26
xanguailzolende: libimobiledevice has been preinstalled in Ubuntu since 10.0406:28
ilzolende...huh, okay06:28
ilzolendewhoops06:28
lampdoes anyone else have problems will fullscreen in ubuntu 17.0406:31
xangua!details06:31
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.06:31
k_sze[work]Was runlevel still a thing in 14.04?06:31
lampi know i just started06:32
lampwhenever i use fullscreen i get stuck with bugs06:32
lamplike in minecraft, if i'm in fullscreen and then some other app opens causing it to minimize, i'm stuck with my cursor controlling minecraft but keyboard controlling os06:32
lampand in youtube in chrome, when I exited fullscreen the system froze up06:33
lampalso with minecraft it resets my color profile; overall just any use of fullscreen is buggy06:33
lampis it just me or is this just some bugs in 17.04 that are going to be fixed soon?06:34
Ben64what video card(s)/driver(s)06:34
lampnvidia geforce 9600m gt with proprietary nvidia drivers06:34
Ben64so, optimus system?06:35
lampi don't think so... i don't know what "optimus" is06:36
PhilippeVienneHi, how a NFS server shutdown and recover is managed on NFS mount ? Should I remount all mounts made ?06:40
k_sze[work]Where is screen sleep controlled if I disable lightdm?06:41
hailhydraI need help getting an audio device working06:44
Ben64lamp: its the type of system with dual gpus06:45
lampoh; yeah, I have a macbook pro with two GPUs; an integrated GeForce 9400m and a discrete/dedicated GeForce 9600m GT06:45
Ben64i bet that's very related to the problem06:46
shpxis there a way to `apt install` cuda for tensorflow? All google search results I can find talk about downloading binaries from nvidia. Then what's http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libcuda1-37506:46
shpxhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/799184/how-can-i-install-cuda-on-ubuntu-16-0406:47
Ben64shpx: yeah you can use apt, dunno what tensorflow is though06:48
lamphmm, is it possible to completely disable a gpu? (probably not...) the 9400m isn't used at all and just reserves some of my memory.06:48
Ben64you gotta check the bios for that06:49
Ben64there probably is a way to do it in software, but i don't know it :)06:49
rishirajany thing about bit coin06:50
rishiraj?????06:50
lamphmm ok06:50
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Jasminderhi guys06:56
JasminderI would like to setup a tiny ubuntu server to host a coin mining project06:57
Ben64go for it06:57
JasminderI downloaded the ubuntu server 17.04 and let it setup under vmware workstation pro06:57
JasminderI never got any education on linux so I'm not sure where to begin, in order to learn this as quickly and efficiently as possible.06:58
JasminderI've been on Windows Since Windows 3.106:58
JasminderIt would mean a lot to me if someone could help me setup this vm.06:59
Ben64you gotta ask a question that could actually be answered06:59
JasminderI'm a truck driver / novice computer user and windows user mainly.07:00
Jasminderwell moderately okay, not novice07:00
Jasminderyes I will ask some questions soon. I'm just booting up vmware now.07:01
Jasminderif you want to watch you can view the machine with vnc07:01
nhaAsking a question from yesterday again: something is setting LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 in my desktop session, possibly because I once logged in with a broken GL stack. How do I unset it? (this is on 17.04, fwiw)07:02
JasminderWhat is the minimum amount of ram to run ubuntu server?07:04
EriC^^!requirements07:04
ubottuHardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu07:04
AlkindiXHello Geeks: I previously installed Plasma KDE in my Ubuntu, then I uninstalled it, after that I tried to install sqlitebrowser , it says unmet dependencies. When I tried with aptitude . It says that I have to downgrade almost all Qt 5 packages, can I trust aptitude to do that?! I need help07:09
ducasseAlkindiX: did you add a ppa to install plasma?07:09
Ben64AlkindiX: how are you installing and uninstalling these things07:09
amazecpkHello, I can only get one monitor to show an image on a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 (not in a virtual machine) How can I go about getting my 2 other monitors to display anything?07:10
ayrusHi, canonical live patch is installed with valid key, kernel is automatically downloaded 4.4.0-75-generic but not patched by canonical. Still showing kernel "4.4.0-72-generic" what I07:11
ayruswhat I'm doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452793/07:11
AlkindiXBen64: I thought Plasma 5 was a good to try. I realize that Plasma is a memory and CPU hanger. Then I uninstalled it07:12
Ben64doesn't really answer the question07:12
Jasminderso 256mb of ram and 1.5gb of disk space07:13
Ben64you'll probably want more than that07:13
Jasminder@ben64 I set it to 512 and 20gb07:13
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amazecpkhelp with monitor situation?07:16
lotuspsychje!xrandr | amazecpk07:18
ubottuamazecpk: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1207:18
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sebsebsebhi07:18
sebsebsebJebbe: en svensk07:18
amazecpkthanks lotuspsychje, I'll look into that07:20
lotuspsychjeamazecpk: plugin both screens and try xrandr --auto07:21
amazecpklotuspsychje, I have all three plugged in to my nvidia gpu. I ran the command you gave me, but nothing has happened yet, do I need to reboot?07:23
Ben64amazecpk: what gpu, what driver, what is the output of "xrandr" and can you configure them using nvidia-settings07:23
amazecpkgtx 970, driver selected now is : X.org Nouveau driver, here is the output: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/aad3c65b4a39613f0253bdf054a3597107:25
Ben64you'll probably want to use the nvidia driver07:26
kristhianhow do i install screen in ubuntu?07:26
amazecpkalright, let me install the latest one07:26
Ben64kristhian: sudo apt install screen07:26
amazecpkopen source or propietary?07:26
Ben64amazecpk: use the additional driver thing in ubuntu, don't go to nvidia.com07:26
lotuspsychjekristhian: sudo apt install screen07:26
Ben64amazecpk: the proprietary one, should be like nvidia-340 or something like that07:26
amazecpkAlright, trying it out now.07:27
ayrusHi, canonical live patch is installed with valid key, kernel is automatically downloaded 4.4.0-75-generic but not patched by canonical. Still showing kernel "4.4.0-72-generic" what I'm doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452793/ please help07:28
Jasminderis anyone here using ubuntu to mine coins?07:28
kristhianE: Unable to locate package screen07:29
kristhianhttp://termbin.com/8lgn07:29
kristhianunable to locate package screen?07:29
kristhiansudo apt-get update first?07:29
kristhianthen sudo apt-get upgrade?07:29
Ben64kristhian: who knows, you pasted basically nothing07:29
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amazecpkAlright, changed drivers to nvidia propietary, no changes yet, going to try a reboot07:30
kristhianE: Unable to locate package screen07:30
kristhianthat is the last line07:31
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Ben64kristhian: pastebin the output of "sudo apt update"07:31
lotuspsychjekristhian: wich ubuntu version are you on?07:31
jinkAny thoughts on https://github.com/google/google-authenticator-libpam ?07:32
amazecpkAlright, got two monitors to show up. still missing the middle one though.07:32
amazecpkahh should make sure that middle one is plugged in all the way next time07:32
kristhiani think it is 14.0407:32
amazecpkthanks guys. :)07:32
kristhianand i also forgot how to check it on the command line07:32
lotuspsychjejink: this channel isnt for polls & opinions07:32
ayruskristhian: "lsb_release -a" output07:32
kristhianok\07:33
jinklotuspsychje: Although that's probably true, this is my best bet for users of the module on Ubuntu.07:33
lotuspsychje!discuss | jink07:34
ubottujink: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!07:34
kristhianactually it is 16.04.1 LTS07:34
kristhianhttp://termbin.com/e3np07:34
jinklotuspsychje: Thanks.07:34
Ben64kristhian: pastebin the output of "sudo apt update"07:34
XAlkindiXalkindix07:34
lotuspsychjekristhian: 16.04.1 is outdated, update asap to .207:35
kristhianBen64: ok07:35
kristhianwait07:35
kristhianlotuspsychje: ok07:35
kristhianhttp://termbin.com/tnq707:37
kristhianBen64: wait07:37
kristhianill just paste it on pastebin instead07:37
kristhiantermbin doesn't show all of the content07:38
kristhiansorry07:38
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lotuspsychjekristhian: try hastebin, its pretty nice07:40
kristhianhttps://pastebin.com/Gp7KY8R307:41
kristhianlotuspsychje:07:41
kristhianok07:41
kristhianlotuspsychje: next time07:41
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kristhianBen64: https://pastebin.com/Gp7KY8R307:41
Ben64kristhian: ok now "apt-cache policy screen"07:42
kristhianok07:42
cjmeyer96Hi guys my bluetooth mouse clicks only work on certain parts of chrome, e.g. clicking New Tab or clicking within a page, but I can't use it to select another tab07:42
cjmeyer96My touchpad works correctly07:44
kristhianBen64: https://pastebin.com/nyhzwD3N07:45
kristhianmaybe i should update ubuntu 16.04.207:46
kristhiani think07:46
Ben64kristhian: well screen is right there, you must have typed it wrong07:46
kristhianBen64:07:46
kristhiancheck07:46
kristhianscreen07:46
kristhianThe program 'screen' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:07:46
kristhiansudo apt install screen07:46
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kristhianah ok07:47
kristhianyes07:47
Ben64...07:47
kristhiani think i typed it wrong07:47
kristhiannow it's working07:47
kristhiananyways, brb07:47
mynameistrevorhello07:54
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mynameistrevorit seems that ph.archive.ubuntu.com is temporarily down07:55
lotuspsychjemynameistrevor: join #ubuntu-mirrors for known repo issues plz07:56
mynameistrevorthanks07:57
linuxthefishhi, i have a network configured in the interfaces file but it's not coming up on boot, any ideas? when i type "ifup ens18", it brings it up but with the error "RTNETLINK answers: File exists" and "Failed to bring up ens18." even though it brings it online!07:57
DadoDado!list07:57
ubottuDadoDado: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».07:57
jacks_hello, anyone here know of a tool i can use to monitor logs in realtime for a specific pre-defined set of text/patterns and run custom commands once found?07:57
ducasselinuxthefish: can you pastebin the interfaces file?07:58
ducassejacks_: fail2ban does basically that, and you can define your own patterns and actions iirc08:00
linuxthefishducasse, http://paste.debian.net/92920808:00
DadoDadociao08:01
DadoDado!list08:01
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DadoDado!list08:02
lotuspsychje!warez | DadoDado08:02
ubottuDadoDado: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o08:02
ducasselotuspsychje: add 'auto ens18' above the ens18 stanza08:02
ducasselinuxthefish: ^^08:02
octo8Hello, i'm using the command 'locate' to find a folder called 'xyz' , how to use it to prevent it from showing files the has 'xyz' in it, i only want folders.08:03
lotuspsychjeocto8: perhaps try the whereis command?08:03
linuxthefishah whoops, thanks so much ducasse all works now! :D08:03
ducasselinuxthefish: np08:03
live123hello, when I click on reload icon in Synaptic Package Manager, I am getting this error. Please help me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452921/08:04
ducasseocto8: use find instead, with -type d08:04
live123hello.. any solutions?08:04
octo8ducasse: find takes long ages :(08:04
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ducasseocto8: well, locate does not do what you want08:05
live123hello..08:06
lotuspsychje!patience | live12308:06
ubottulive123: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/08:06
live123lotuspsychje, ok. sorry..08:06
live123lotuspsychje: will wait.08:07
anonymouswget08:09
lotuspsychjelive123: did you add ppa's of any kind to your system?08:09
stevencurl08:09
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Guest63713Hi!08:09
live123lotuspsychje: I don't remember adding anything manually. As far as I can remember, I installed some packages.08:10
live123lotuspsychje: I installed Opera and chrome browsers.08:10
ducasselive123: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list08:11
stevenhow can I kill s6-supervise?08:11
stevenI can't find it anywhere08:11
ducasse!xy | steven08:12
ubottusteven: The XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned.08:12
stevenI want to kill supervise08:13
steven:D08:13
live123ducasse: please could you provide the command that I need to use?08:14
ducasselive123: 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999'08:15
Ben64live123: cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 999908:15
Ben64ducasse: gotta get .d/ too :D08:15
ducasseBen64: i didn't need it rn ;)08:16
stevenso I guess you won't tell me how to kill it then?08:16
live123ducasse: Ben64 ,http://termbin.com/bod308:17
ducassesteven: to me that sounds more like a kernel thread than a process08:17
live123ducasse: http://termbin.com/bod308:17
live123Ben64: http://termbin.com/bod308:17
stevenno s6-supervise is a supervisor, not a kernel module..08:18
Ben64steven: you haven't given nearly enough information for us to determine anything of what you're doing or what you want08:18
stevenok, I have a process (nginx) running. I want this process to be gone.08:19
stevenlike completely gone.08:19
pynki_like uninstalled gone?08:19
ayruspynki_: :D08:20
stevensystemctl stop nginx, stops  part of it. but supervise keeps another instance of it alive, if I kill the process it gets respawn by supervise08:20
stevennot removed, just temporarly not running08:20
Ben64steven: where did you get this supervise08:20
pynki_sure that it is a standalone nginx? or some kind of boundled into something else-ginx08:21
stevenps aux | grep nginx Ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452964/08:21
live123Ben64: any possible solutions?08:21
Ben64steven: that doesn't come with ubuntu08:23
pynki_https://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-supervise.html Ben6408:23
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stevenI am pretty sure I didnt install it either Ben64 :D08:23
Ben64then time to format08:24
live123ducasse: how are you?08:24
ducasselive123: go into 'settings', 'software and updates' and look under 'software sources'. you should have more than one entry for google chrome and opera.08:25
pynki_steven, 's6-svc -q' does anything to the nginx process?08:26
HennakinHi there08:26
pynki_or -t08:26
pynki_or -p08:26
stevencommand not found :D08:26
stevenI dont have any s6* commands installed08:26
ele99elisa08:26
pynki_https://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-svc.html08:26
stevenor available08:26
pynki_-d seems to be what you need :P08:26
ducassesteven: where does it come from if you didn't install it, then? :)08:27
linuxthefishwhy doesn't grub show up anymore?08:27
linuxthefishwell, compared to old versions08:27
stevenvery good question, ducasse. maybe so it runs as my user, not root. maybe it's a dependency of something. I guess imma have to debug this a bit more08:28
pynki_steven - it might have the binaries in some wired place... install locate, run updatedb and then locate s6 or find it on another way08:28
pynki_s6-svc seems the binary you need08:28
pynki_-d : down. If the supervised process is up, send it a SIGTERM and a SIGCONT. Do not restart it.08:28
HennakinI have a strange bug or have been hacked: In lightdm after starting my computer I need to push enter times after I entered the password.. after the first enter-press nothing - virtually nothing - happens... the hidden letters of the password still are there.. then i just need to push enter another time and lightdm logs me in and starts Unity.. is this a known issue? I cant find anything on launchp08:28
linuxthefishi mean i got it back, but it seems strange hiding grub08:28
Hennakinlaunchpad08:28
Hennakini mean i need to push enter two times08:29
stevenI did do that pynki_ .. and the result is a but messy but I saw something that could be the cause of this. but imma have to figure it out first08:29
Ben64linuxthefish: because it's not needed usually08:29
ducasselinuxthefish: you should be able to get the grub menu if you hold left shift or escape on boot.08:31
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live123ducasse: yes. there are two entries for chrome.08:33
ducasselive123: delete one of them.08:34
stevenonly docker stuff uses it pynki_ ..08:35
stevendoes ps list docker processes?08:36
stevencos I don't think it does.08:36
linuxthefishargh and no rc.local in this new ubuntu, everything has changed from when i used it in 2011!08:36
live123ducasse: I unchecked one. I got this error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24453006/08:36
pynki_linuxthefish, creating ti might work?!?!?08:36
linuxthefishpynki_ on systemctl debian i can enable the rc-local service but it seems to have hone08:36
live123ducasse: what could be the reason for this error?08:38
ducasselive123: 'apt update | nc termbin.com 9999'08:39
pynki_linuxthefish, i mean: create the /etc/rc.local file and see if it gets called08:40
iuza.08:40
linuxthefishnope pynki_08:41
live123ducasse: again, I got this error.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24453023/08:41
ddddhola08:41
ddddhelp?08:42
ddddplease?08:42
pratyushWhats the issue?08:42
pynki_dddd, problem? please?08:42
linuxthefishah nvm i'll try see if init scripts still work08:42
ele99ciao!08:42
ducasselive123: sorry, 'sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999'08:42
pynki_linuxthefish, have a desktop? think somewhere there must be autostart programs... :/08:43
ele99!list08:43
pratyushlinuxthefish whats wrong?08:43
ubottuele99: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».08:43
ele99!list08:43
ddddOn the terminal, it requires a password before any action is taken08:43
linuxthefishele99 /list for a list of channels?08:44
pynki_dddd, using commands with "sudo" in it?08:44
live123ducasse: I got this error again.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24453032/08:44
Winter_FoxoI upgraded to ubuntu 17.04 today but every few hours my computer freezes and I have to reset. How do I go about fining the cause of this?08:44
pratyushWinter_Foxo logs?08:44
Winter_Foxopratyush, I checked syslog but couldnt find much going on08:45
Winter_Foxoany other logs?08:45
pynki_Winter_Foxo, the machine gets hot?08:46
ele99ciao!08:46
ele99\list08:46
ele99!list08:46
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ducasselive123: 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d | nc termbin.com 9999'08:46
pratyushWinter_Foxo Unity probably08:46
pynki_"/list"08:46
Winter_Foxopynki_, doubt it, its a desktop. The display just freezes and eventually the audio cuts out too08:46
hateball!alis | ele9908:47
ubottuele99: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"08:47
ddddcome si può immettere una navigazione anonima?08:47
live123ducasse: http://termbin.com/ktgi08:47
pynki_Winter_Foxo, any obvious way to trigger it?08:48
ducasselive123: 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list | nc termbin.com 9999'08:48
Winter_Foxopynki_, not that I can see08:49
live123ducasse: http://termbin.com/qgld08:50
alanceHello, I want to know how to fix the following problem: when started, the computer shows "failed to load kernel modules"08:50
ducasselive123: 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999'08:52
ducasselive123: we're almost done now08:52
pynki_can i source the /etc/enviroment fiel to get the vars in it available for the whole session?08:52
live123ducasse: http://termbin.com/g1pu08:53
ducasselive123: you see the bottom line in that last paste? remove it and save the file, and you should be done.08:54
ducasselive123: you need to do that as root08:54
gotenhi?08:55
live123ducasse: http://termbin.com/99yx08:56
ducasselive123: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'08:57
gotencan i be heard?08:58
ducasselive123: go down to the bottom, delete the last line.08:58
live123ducasse: # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ zesty-updates universe  this one?08:59
ducasselive123: deb-src http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main08:59
live123ok08:59
live123ducasse: then, what next/09:00
live123?09:00
ducasselive123: then save the file with ctrl+o09:00
ducasselive123: and exit with ctrl+x09:01
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ducasselive123: now you should be able to run 'sudo apt update' without errors09:01
live123ducasse: done. No errors now. thanks a lot.09:02
live123thank you for your help..09:03
ducasselive123: you're welcome :)09:04
live123ducasse: have a great day...bye..09:04
ducasselive123: you too09:04
ubuntuerhello09:05
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k_ubuntu_eranyone here?09:06
ppf!ask09:07
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:07
HennakinWhy do I need to push "enter" twice after entering my password in lightdm to log on?09:10
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pynkii have a wired issue:  service tomcat7 restart gives me:  * no JDK or JRE found - please set JAVA_HOME09:13
pynkibut  dpkg-reconfigure tomcat7 gives me  * Starting Tomcat servlet engine tomcat7 [ OK ]. what could go wrong here that the service ... command does not work? ubuntu 14.04 64 server09:13
pynkiprintenv contains JAVA_HOME09:13
mgorpynki, which ubuntu version? if it uses systemd you might have to modify the unit file to use the environment variable, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User#Environment_variables09:16
pynkimgor 14.0409:16
pynkiserver09:16
mgorpynki, ah, so no systemd in other words09:17
ayruspynki: which java ?09:17
pynkioracle 8, webudp8team ppa09:18
mgorpynki, seems like someone has had similar issues, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27457398/why-java-home-not-recognized-by-tomcat7-in-ubuntu. check the answer if it is applicable for you09:18
pynkithx mgor09:18
mgorpynki, actually, the there's one answer other than the accepted, meaning chaning /etc/default/tomcat7 to have JAVA_HOME set there09:18
pynkidone @mgor, thanks09:20
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ThetaOrionisHey guys, after 17.04 MATE fresh install, my laptop is not connecting to the web on WiFi. I changed the Network manager.conf file to include wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no and it worked for a time, not it's not helping either09:28
ThetaOrionisCan this be due the DNS issue of Network manager I keep reading about?09:29
ducasseThetaOrionis: try pinging 8.8.8.809:30
ThetaOrionisducasse: Pinging works, but still no webpages on browser. :-(09:31
ducasseThetaOrionis: ok, then try 'host google.com'09:31
ThetaOrionisBTW I never had had a WiFi issue with Ubuntu on 16.10 or before.09:32
ThetaOrionistheoceaniscool: It worked again, showing the IP of Google.com and some other addresses09:33
w9qbjtake a look at /etc/resolv.conf  it shold have some nameservers (like 8.8.8.8 or theip of your router)09:33
ThetaOrionisw9qbj: I opened it on pico, but the file is blank.09:34
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ducasseThetaOrionis: open 'edit connections' from the nm applet09:34
ThetaOrionisducasse: Ok, done09:35
ducasseThetaOrionis: select, your network09:35
ducasseThetaOrionis: then go to ipv4 settings, and fill in 8.8.8.8 in additional dns servers09:35
ThetaOrionisOk09:36
ducasseThetaOrionis: then save and close09:37
ThetaOrionisBTW do I keep the 'additional search domains' blank?09:37
ducasseThetaOrionis: you don't need that09:37
ThetaOrionisOk, saved. And I reconnected as well, still nothing. Lemme try restarting once09:38
ducasseThetaOrionis: 'sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager' should do it09:39
ThetaOrionisducasse: OK, I'm trying it and reporting back in a moment. :)09:39
janisozaurany volunteers to help with debian packaging for OpenRCT2? https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenRCT209:40
ducassejanisozaur: offtopic here, i'm afraid09:42
janisozaurwhere then?09:42
ThetaOrionisducasse: No change. :-( I guess it's a driver issue, then09:43
ducassejanisozaur: maybe #ubuntu-offtopic, or one of the debian channels.09:43
ducasseThetaOrionis: i doubt that..09:45
ThetaOrionisducasse: BTW, now the ping 8.8.8.8 is running forever, instead of completing.09:46
ducasseThetaOrionis: just ctrl+c it09:46
ducasseThetaOrionis: it will never complete :)09:46
ThetaOrionisI see. :)09:46
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ducasseThetaOrionis: and 'ping google.com' also works?09:46
ThetaOrionisOk, it stopped, thanks ducasse. :-) However, the WiFi issue persists.09:47
ThetaOrionisYeah,09:47
ducassetry 'sudo ufw status'09:47
ThetaOrionisactive09:48
ducasseThetaOrionis: 'sudo ufw disable'09:48
ducassenow try your browser.09:49
ThetaOrionisducasse: Still nothing, I'm afraid. :(09:50
ducassewhich browser is this?09:50
ThetaOrionisI tried disabling the firewall previously, from the gufw GUI, even changing the profiles. Nothing worked.09:50
ThetaOrionisducasse: The default one, Firefox.09:50
ducassehave you set a proxy?09:51
ThetaOrionisducasse: BTW while installing from live USB, WiFi was acting normally, and all latest installer updates were installed.09:51
ThetaOrionisducasse: No, it's just a fresh install.09:51
ducassedoes 'sudo apt update' also fail?09:52
ThetaOrionisducasse: However, I recall having some problems of this kind with my Windows 10 installations, where WiFi was shown to be 'Limited access' (no internet)09:52
ThetaOrionisducasse: Yeah, nothing works from the CLI too. I tried installing acpi previously, and it failed to connect09:53
ducassehow is this connected? computer -> router -> modem?09:54
ThetaOrionisTill 17.04, everything was okay with the same hardware and same WiFi connection. Similar thing happened between Win 7 and Win 10 (7 worked fine, but 10 often showed problems of limited access)09:54
janisozaurducasse: from my perspective "debian packaging" is the same as for ubuntu, hence why I asked here, nothing really debian-specific, perhaps I should've stated "deb packaging"09:55
ThetaOrionisducasse: Umm, there's this adsl modem with Wlan. I don't have a separate router, I'm anraid.09:56
ThetaOrionis* afraid09:56
janisozauron semi-related note: how could we get package pushed to ubuntu repositories?09:56
ducassejanisozaur: be a member of motu.09:57
ducassejanisozaur: try getting it included in the debian repos, and it will get synced on the next release.09:57
janisozaurfrom which one does ubuntu sync? sid?09:58
ducasseThetaOrionis: ok. is there a web interface on the modem you have access to?09:58
ducassejanisozaur: yes09:58
janisozaurthanks09:58
ThetaOrionisducasse: Yes09:58
ducasseThetaOrionis: can you access it from the browser now?09:59
ThetaOrionisducasse: Yesterday I resetted everything on the modem interface, and the Windows issue got solved but Ubuntu 17.04's issue remained09:59
ThetaOrionisducasse: Yeah09:59
ducasseThetaOrionis: ok, then your problem is likely a setting in that interface, as traffic to the router seems ok, and you get pings in/out to the world.10:00
ThetaOrionisducasse: BTW to access it, I need to connect to the LAN. It doesn't work on WLAN (previously it used to).10:01
ThetaOrionisducasse: Most probably. Lemme try fiddling a bit with the router, and I'll report back later.10:01
ThetaOrionisducasse: Also, many thanks for your help. :-)10:02
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ducasseThetaOrionis: ok, do that. you can also get help in ##networking for this.10:02
ducasseThetaOrionis: np :)10:02
valleyofsunserver irc.torrentday.com10:03
talinhello. how can i make ubuntu mate use my local language for being displayed on webpages10:06
talinis there some locale setting somewhere? the OS menus are fine10:07
talinbut webpages are being set to english for some reason10:07
talinlike the buttons on facebook, that sort of thing10:07
ducassetalin: that's a browser setting, probably10:07
cfhowlettyep.  browser10:07
valleyofsunI would guess a laguage pack for the browser is all10:07
talinah, thank you guys10:07
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:08
kbobHey BluesKaj10:11
BluesKajhi kbob10:11
talinstrange, firefox has a general.useragent.locale which is set to nb-no10:12
talinand that's correct10:13
talinstill pages are being displayed in english10:13
ducassetalin: go into preferences, and set the language under 'content'10:15
talinducasse: in the browser?10:17
ducasseyes10:17
talinducasse: ah, thank you. i will try that now10:17
stevenanother one, by default autremove keeps the last three kernels, can I change this (more like where can I change it) to keep only the last couple kernels?10:33
ducassesteven: it just keeps the last two here10:36
ThetaOrionisducasse: You there, mate?10:36
ducasseThetaOrionis: yes, but soon leaving10:37
stevenlast three for me ducasse .. maybe the configuration differs10:37
stevenI am talking about server10:37
ducassesteven: so am i.10:37
ducassesteven: have you rebooted recently?10:38
ThetaOrionisducasse: Well, the problem was due to DNSSEC, as detailed in this article http://www.hecticgeek.com/2017/04/ubuntu-17-04-systemd-dns-issues/10:38
ducasseThetaOrionis: interesting. i'll take a look at that later, thanks for reporting back :)10:39
ThetaOrionisducasse: I temporarily switched off systemd-resolved daemon, and all my network issues are gone. :) I'm updating the system now, since latest updates seem to have fixed the issue.10:39
stevenI actually did just today because of another reason, but the kernel thingy was like that before. on my desktop tho it only keeps two kernels10:39
stevenducasse: what version runs on youor server, I assume 1604 lts?10:39
ThetaOrionisducasse: No, thank YOU, for helping me and giving me so much of your time. :) Once again, most appreciated10:40
stevenits just annoying cos with every kernel update apt breaks cos /boot is at 100% then I have to run autoremove manually to remove the oldest kernel and apt reconfigred the current one.10:40
ducassesteven: i have both 16.04 and 17.04, same thing.10:41
stevenweird10:41
stevenhow did u check?10:41
ducasseThetaOrionis: yw :)10:41
stevendid u ll /boot or use dpkg?10:41
ducassesteven: i looked in /boot10:41
stevencan u run dpkg --list | grep linux-image | grep "^ii"10:42
stevenlists three on lts server and two on desktop10:42
stevenin my case anyway10:42
ducassetwo actual packages and a meta-package10:44
stevenok so for some reason my server keeps three and it bloats my /boot. I dont wanna resize partitions. there has got to be a config to change this-.-10:45
stevenI guess ubuntu-dev would be the place to ask then?10:45
steventhanks for double checking tho ducasse !10:45
ducassesteven: you can try #ubuntu-server, see if someone there has seen this before. other than that i don't know.10:46
steventhanks, gonna ask those guys10:46
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stevenone last thing10:48
stevenno.. I forgot-.-10:48
vegombreihi im a noob, using ubuntu 16:10, im trying to emulate retro nintendo games but dont really know how i downloaded some emulators and roms but have no clue how to get rm to work10:49
stevenfor downloading roms this is the wrong place to ask, emulators can be installed using the apt package manager vegombrei10:50
lotuspsychjevegombrei: apt-cache search nintendo10:51
vegombreisteven: what is the right place to ask?10:52
stevensince downloading roms is illegal, I can't help you with that either :)10:52
stevenyou won't get anything official from a linux distribution, google is the only place one could point you to.10:52
lotuspsychjevegombrei: you can check the manpage of a nintendo emulator, see how it works: man your-nintendo-package-here10:53
stevenah yeah I remember ducasse, what ever happened to kernel updates w/o system reboots?10:54
stevenis ksplice a thing now and if so, does ubuntu 1604 makes use of it? cos I saw that I was using an older kernel and after the reboot it used the current one10:54
ducasse!livepatch | steven10:54
ubottusteven: Canonical Livepatch is a service offered by Canonical for 64 bit 16.04 installs that modifies the currently running kernel for updates without the need to restart. More information can be found at http://ubottu.com/y/livepatch and https://www.ubuntu.com/server/livepatch10:54
ikoniasteven: I'd keep away from ksplice if I was you10:54
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stevenah ok, but this  just patches the current kernel, right?10:56
stevenikonia: because?10:56
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ikoniasteven: no10:56
ikoniasteven: it patches nothing10:56
ikoniait swaps out the kernel that is running for the new kernel in full - in live memory10:56
mgkenam new here10:56
stevenoh, well they say patching on the website ikonia :D so I assumed10:56
lotuspsychjemgken: you have joined the ubuntu support channel10:57
mgkenthank you10:57
ThetaOrionisHey guys, I temporarily disabled DNSSEC (setting DNSSEC=no on /etc/systemd/resolved.sonf) to solve my lack of connectivity with a fresh 17.04 install. Latest updates fixed the DNSSEC issue, and my connectivity is normal again10:57
mgkenis it possible to run ubuntu on top of linux mint10:58
ikoniaThetaOrionis: ok ?10:58
ThetaOrionisSo, since disabling DNSSEC is a security risk, could I've exposed my system to vulnerabilities? (I only installed the updates from Ubuntu server)10:58
ikoniaThetaOrionis: not really no,10:58
ikoniado you understand how the ubuntu dns resolver setup works ?10:58
ThetaOrionisikonia: I'm afraid not. :(10:59
lotuspsychjemgken: we dont support mint issues here mate10:59
ikoniaThetaOrionis: thats fine, I'm just asking before I give you info10:59
ikoniaThetaOrionis: it is very very very unlikley removing dns sec from your local resolver setup has created any risk for you10:59
mgkenok11:00
ducassemgken: that doesn't make any sense11:00
ikoniait's more for dns servers (which is how the local resolver works these days)11:00
ThetaOrionisikonia: And btw, I checked the file again (the updates asked to rewrite the resolved.conf file) and the DNSSEC=no is now commented (#DNSSEC=no). Does that mean DNSSEC is back ON again? :)11:01
ikoniait will go back to default, which I'd assume is "yes" if you had to disable it11:02
ThetaOrionisI see. Many thanks, ikonia. :)11:02
ducassedefault is allow-downgrade, iirc11:04
ThetaOrionisducasse: Exactly, but even in the default file, it was commented, and not active. (#DNSSEC=allow-downgrade), which I temporarily changed to DNSSEC=no, and now it's #DNSSEC=no11:05
ThetaOrionisI guess since it's commented, the value of DNSSEC won't be an issue.11:05
ducasseThetaOrionis: which will make it the default, DNSSEC=allow-downgrade11:06
* EKaa back11:06
ikoniathank you ducasse11:07
ThetaOrionisOh, I see! Possibly then, having the DNSSEC=allow-grade commented created the problem in the first place, on my fresh install11:07
ThetaOrionisThanks again ducasse!11:07
xphereshello, I just checked my ram and found that the internal 4gb module of my laptop and the external 8gb are configured to a very slow clock speed11:07
xphereshttps://pastebin.com/A23HJJLb11:07
xpherescan anyone advice me if that is correct and what can I do?11:08
Ben64xpheres: looks fine11:08
ducasseThetaOrionis: no, the commented values in the original file are the defaults. if you cgange it and then comment it out, it will use the default again.11:09
xphereswhy do I see that internal memory has 1600mhz external has 1300mhz and both configured clock speed 667mhz?11:09
lotuspsychje!away | EKaa11:09
ubottuEKaa: Please do not use noisy away messages and nicks in Ubuntu channels. It is annoying and unnecessary. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»11:09
ThetaOrionisOh, that's interesting11:09
Ben64xpheres: well theres no such thing as internal and external ram11:09
Ben64xpheres: and 1333mhz = 667mhz11:10
xpheresben64 I'm saying that just to explain that there are two ram modules, one is inside the laptop's board and the other is a module I added11:10
ducasseThetaOrionis: the commented-out entries are a way of telling you what the defaults are11:10
xpheresben64 may I should buy a 1600mhz ram to get the laptop to its optimal performance?11:10
EKaaok,sorry :) im on 2 servers :))11:10
ducasseThetaOrionis: if you remove all the comment signs you still use the same config :)11:10
Ben64xpheres: it won't make a noticeable difference11:11
xpheresah ok ...11:11
xpheresthen I should not worry11:11
Ben64xpheres: yeah, ram is never going to be the slow part of your computer11:12
xpheresok11:12
lotuspsychjexpheres: try preload on ubuntu, nice overal speedup11:12
xpheresI just though that if both modules are set up to the half of the maximal possible performance that would impact general performance11:12
xphereslotuspsychje is that a command?11:13
Ben64xpheres: its not half though11:13
lotuspsychje!info preload | xpheres a package11:13
ubottuxpheres a package: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (zesty), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB11:13
xpheresok lotus11:13
thyriaenDoes anyone else have problems with Geary ( the e-mail client ? ) i am experiencing crashes, bugs in resizing the window and generally some wonky bugs concerning the gui, like maximising does not really work ( when i maximize the window it just gets shrinked into one small band across the monitor ( could have been connected to multi-monitor setup ? )11:13
lotuspsychjethyriaen: wich ubuntu version are you on?11:14
thyriaen16.0411:14
xpheresok preload installed11:14
lotuspsychjethyriaen: updated system to 16.04.2?11:14
ducassethyriaen: desktop/wm?11:14
xpheresI just need to write preload or should I add atributes?11:15
lotuspsychjexpheres: just a simple reboot, nothing else to do11:15
thyriaeni am on elementary OS - forked from ubuntu 16.0411:15
xpheresand what does that package do?11:15
xpheressorry I mean what is the purpose of that package?11:15
lotuspsychjexpheres: it pre-loads programs11:15
ducasse!elementary | thyriaen11:16
ubottuthyriaen: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.11:16
cfhowlettthyriaen, sorry, can't help you here.  elementary is not ubuntu.  use elementary support instaed11:16
thyriaeni cannot say anything about default ubuntu - however since everything else is working flawlessly i suspect the geary to be the problem ( i just wanted to find out if anyone else has problems with it )11:16
xpheres!info preload11:16
ubottupreload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (zesty), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB11:16
tuxi3hi all11:18
lotuspsychjexpheres: there are many other tweaks you can try to boost your system, take the most out of your ram11:18
xpheresah ok11:18
xpheresI understand that package loads in ram what I use more often11:18
lotuspsychjexpheres: disabled unwanted services, preload,swappiness,install an ssd,clean system,.etc11:18
ducassethyriaen: the elementary desktop is not supported here, and could have a big impact on your problem. try their support.11:19
lotuspsychjethyriaen: another option we can offer you, is to download ubuntu desktop and test geary there, lets say on an LTS version?11:19
thyriaenthe elementary channel is pretty dead, so i thought id ask you about it - but if no such problem is known here it probably is my desktop gui11:20
lotuspsychje!live | thyriaen test out geary real quick?11:21
ubottuthyriaen test out geary real quick?: The Ubuntu Desktop ISO is a "Live" image, which can be run without altering existing files on your hard drive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.11:21
thyriaenmost of the time geary is working fine11:22
thyriaenreally hard to reproduce11:22
thyriaenive been working with it daily now for 4 months11:23
thyriaenand i experienced that issue like trhice now11:23
lotuspsychjethyriaen: well on your current Os we cant help you here, sorry11:23
thyriaenye i understand, no problem11:23
xpheresok I'm going to reboot to start using preload and see if I get improvents in load times11:27
lotuspsychjexpheres: gl11:27
xpheresthanks for the tip!11:27
vegombreiso the nes emulator doesnt quite work i wonder why]11:28
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thyriaeni am running geary 10.0 - is there a deb package for geary 11.3 or a repsoitory i can add ?11:28
vegombreii neeed some help11:28
belenosdon't expect any magic11:28
lotuspsychjethyriaen: what did we just suggested you?11:28
cfhowlett!help | vegombrei11:29
Ben64vegombrei: explain11:29
ubottuvegombrei: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:29
vegombreiso im trying to play retro nes games got a bunch of emulators but just cant get any of em to work11:37
Ben64vegombrei: cool11:37
bazhangvegombrei, which ones11:37
ESO3B-28:D11:37
ESO3B-28:D11:37
vegombreiho do i access the illegal stuff for sudo apt get?11:37
ESO3B-28hello11:37
bazhangvegombrei, you dont11:37
vegombreii like contra super mario mega man11:37
ESO3B-28how i can be root11:37
bazhangvegombrei, go to archive.org11:37
ESO3B-28in UBUNTU11:38
bazhangESO3B-28, use sudo not root11:38
bazhangvegombrei, most of those old roms are there11:38
ESO3B-28but i can't11:38
cfhowlett!root | ESO3B-2811:38
ubottuESO3B-28: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:38
ESO3B-28because have an error11:38
Ben64ESO3B-28: what error11:38
cfhowlettESO3B-28, assume we have zero idea what the error is and tell us11:38
ESO3B-28ESO3B-28 no está en el archivo sudoers. Se informará de este incidente.11:39
ESO3B-28this happen11:39
ESO3B-28when i press sudo -i11:39
ESO3B-28what is sudoers¿11:39
cfhowlettbecause that user is not authorized to use sudo.11:40
cfhowlettis this YOUR computer or someone else's?11:40
ESO3B-28not is my computer11:40
cfhowlettthen you need to ask owner for his authorization.  we will not be helping you crack someone else's system11:41
ducassevegombrei: you were told we won't help you with this.11:43
bazhanghe's gone ducasse11:44
QwertieI need to open a bug about ubuntu freezing after updating to 17.04. Is the info from lspci enough to open a report?11:52
cfhowlett!bug | Qwertie please read for guidance11:52
ubottuQwertie please read for guidance: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.11:52
QwertieAh that has some useful info, thanks11:53
ducasseQwertie: after filing a bug you will most likely be asked to provide certain logs or test specific kernels and report back, so make sure to provide a valid email address.11:55
QwertieSo when it freezes again I should hit Alt+SysRq+1 and take a photo of the screen?11:58
ducasseQwertie: if it freezes hard enough, it might not let you do that.12:00
matiHi, I have problem with scallin' game. I'm tryin' to run a WarThunder on my screen(4K), I choosen  fullscreen(1080p) in settings and game run in fullhd but doesn't change display seetings to this resolution and game run only in one quarter. How i can handle this problem12:02
aezakmiayy12:04
aezakmiquit12:04
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kristhianwhy sudo apt-get install xchat return this?12:13
kristhianhttp://termbin.com/3hs212:13
r__riosHello, all. I have an nVidia nForce ethernet card and NetworkManager keeps killing my connection. It only comes back up if I restart the network-manager service. I'm running 14.04. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?12:13
cfhowlettkristhian, xchat has been dead.  for YEARS >>> hexchat12:14
kristhiansudo apt-get install hexchat?12:14
cfhowletthttps://hexchat.github.io/news/announcement.html12:15
kristhianok12:15
cfhowlettyes, that command will work12:15
kristhianthanks12:15
leebobythe information of  joining and quiting is not nice12:18
username2someone can help me?12:18
cfhowlett!quietirc | leeboby try this12:19
ubottuleeboby try this: To ignore joins/parts/quits in your favorite IRC client, see http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages12:19
username2i have a wifi usb dont work12:20
username2i have this wifi-usb Buffalo Airstation WLI-UC-GNM , but dont working on ubuntu12:22
cfhowlett!wifi | username2 read this to begin troubleshooting12:22
ubottuusername2 read this to begin troubleshooting: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:22
Norbinis gnome the default graphical shell in 17.04 ?12:31
cfhowlettNorbin, no12:32
Norbinoh. still unity then. makes sense why i see no difference.  this release note  confused me: Unity 8 is available as an alternative session12:32
Norbinalternative?12:32
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mcphailNorbin: unity7 is standard in 17.0412:33
Norbinoh.12:34
Norbini get it. thanks.12:34
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ducasseNorbin: there is a 'tech preview' of unity8 in 17.04, but it is in no way suited for actual daily use.13:12
kristhianquestion how do i install flash player in ubuntu?13:21
tarzeauinstall google chrome, then you'll have it13:22
BluesKaj!flash13:22
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash13:22
cfhowletttarzeau, or install chromium13:23
tarzeauchromium doesn't include flash, does it?13:23
cfhowlettit does13:23
tarzeaugoogle chrome bundles adobe flash.13:23
BluesKajkristhian, chrome seems to solve alot of problems that FF has with flash now13:23
tarzeauthe one from adobe?13:23
tarzeaunot so i debian, for sure! (certainly not the adobe flash)13:23
cfhowlettand chromium is unbranded chrome13:23
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tarzeaucfhowlett: yes and in main, which requires it to have no ADOBE binary software13:24
tarzeauor it can't go into main, but non-free13:24
tarzeaudpkg -L chromium |grep flash13:24
ducassechromium does not include flash, you need to install the plugin13:24
tarzeaucfhowlett: what's the flash thing called in chromium on 16.04?13:24
tarzeauducasse: that's what i am saying all the time13:24
tarzeaukristhian: but seriously. i stopped using adobe flash 5 years ago. now it's 2017. you seriously still need it? what for?13:25
tarzeauit is a security problem13:25
tarzeauand for laptops a battery eater13:26
ducassetarzeau: you need pepperflashplugin-nonfree13:26
tarzeaui certainly don't need it13:26
tarzeaua web page that can't be looked at with links2, is a broken web page13:26
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DevAntoinehi13:33
DevAntoineI'm wondering why the following command outputs the last echo: echo 250 | xargs test 250 -gt || echo "too much violation"13:33
kristhianhow do i instll flash player in ubuntu?13:37
DevAntoineis it possible to grep the output of a command, do some stuff but still display the output?13:37
BluesKajkristhian, read ducasse's post above13:38
ducassekristhian: adobe-flashplugin should install the plugin for both firefox and chromium, but iirc you need the esr release of firefox now for flash support13:38
BluesKajor below :-)13:39
ToBeCloudJust use Google Chrome13:40
ToBeCloudIt comes with flash as long as that stuff is still needed, and it is kept up to date and watched by people who do have an understanding of security issues in browsers13:40
kristhiansorry i could not scroll up with the irc client that i am using ducasse13:41
kristhiancan i install it using a command line?13:41
ducassekristhian: apt install adobe-flashplugin13:41
ducassekristhian: sudo apt install adobe-flashplugin13:41
ducassesorry :)13:41
cfhowletton 16.04 that would be flashplugin-installer13:42
kristhiane.13:43
kristhianThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or13:43
kristhianis only available from another source13:43
kristhianE: Package 'adobe-flashplugin' has no installation candidate13:43
cfhowletton 16.04 that would be flashplugin-installer13:43
kristhiani can't install it13:43
kristhianthanks13:44
kristhianwait a minute, bbl13:44
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ruffleShi. does anyone here have a dell xps 14 (L421X). i need to know what's the best nvidia driver version for this laptop. thanks14:09
BluesKajruffleS, graphics or ?14:11
ruffleSBluesKaj: graphics. this notebook has a hybrid graphics card. nvidia 630m14:12
BluesKajoh lord. an optimus14:13
ruffleSyes :(14:13
BluesKajinstall nvidia-prime and bumblebee14:13
kristhianbtw how do i unmount an external storage, using a command line?14:14
kristhianor a usb?14:14
BluesKajkristhian,sudo umount /dev/dsX14:14
ruffleSkristhian: sudo umount /mount_point or sudo umount /dev/device14:14
BluesKajoops j=kristhian sudo umount /dev/sdX14:14
ruffleSBluesKaj: i tried nvidia-375 and it was working fine on ubuntu gnome 17.04 but Fn F4 / Fn F5 (keyboard shortcuts for screen brightness adjustment) froze the heck out of X14:15
sim642I upgraded 14.04->16.04 and the nvidia driver or something broke. I'm stuck with a crappy 1024x768 resolution, can't pick the fullhd. How should I go about fixing it?14:15
ruffleSBluesKaj: so i'm downloading Ubuntu Budgie 17.04 and I'll give it a go14:16
cfhowlettruffleS, wait, what?  do you have ubuntu installed now?14:16
ruffleSsim642: try to go to nvidia driver website and find the proper driver for your graphics card14:16
BluesKajruffleS, well, Optimus is kind of hit and miss so good luck14:16
ruffleScfhowlett: not now. i hasd to fall back to windows14:17
sim642ruffleS, I used to use the nvidia proprietary one that ubuntu allow installing directly, shouldn't it still work?14:17
ruffleSsim642: this one still overheats my laptop14:17
ruffleSthis optimus thing is a pain in the ass14:17
sim642I still have the nvidia control panel thing too but it has no settings14:17
ducassesim642: don't download drivers from the nvidia site, use the ones in the repos14:22
sim642ducasse, that's what I have still after the upgrade, but it's not working correctly14:25
ruffleSsim642: do you know your graphics card model?14:25
ducassesim642: see if there is another driver available in the 'additional drivers' dialog14:25
sim642ruffleS, nvidia 9600 gt14:26
sim642ducasse, the open source one is the alternative14:26
ducassesim642: have you tried that one?14:27
sim642No, I want to know why this one doesn't work when it used to for me ever since the beginning14:27
kristhianbtw how do i unmount an external storage, using a command line?14:29
ducassesim642: it probably does not work correctly with this version of x11.14:29
ducassekristhian: wasn't that just answered?14:29
kristhianducasse: im sorry, i wasnt paying attention14:31
kristhiansorry for that14:32
ruffleS_sim642: on nvidia website you'll find the driver version for your graphics card. then you should try to find it in ubuntu's repositories14:33
ruffleS_in my case for instance i found out that my graphics card is supported by nvidia-375 then i installed it using apt-get14:34
ducassekristhian: you can use 'lsblk' to list devices for (un)mounting14:34
ducassesim642: there is a driver ppa with various versions of the nvidia driver, but i'm not familiar with it. others here are.14:35
kristhianfor example i wanted to unmount sda1?14:39
kristhianill just lsblk sda1?14:40
kristhiancommand something like that?14:40
ikoniayou unmount the file system, not the devie14:40
ikoniadeice14:40
ikoniadevice14:40
ikoniaeg: umount /opt/something - which would be /dev/sda114:40
kristhianhow will i know the exact directory where sda1 is located?14:41
kristhianwhat command will i type?14:41
ikoniatype "mount" and you'll see all the mount points14:41
kristhianok14:42
kristhianthen how will i identify if the one i am going to unmount is the right one?14:42
kristhianfor example my usb14:43
ikoniahave you typed "mount" yet ?14:43
kristhianyes i did14:43
ikoniaok - so you should see a mount point and associated device14:43
kristhianhttp://termbin.com/fipd14:43
kristhianthat is the list of mount14:44
ikoniaok ?14:44
LoRezugh, I'm getting tired enough of this to ask...  chrome, if focused, keeps ingesting my keyboard's media keys and going forward to a blank page (ie, alt-left goes back to where I was)14:45
LoRezwtf is it doing this?  Even though pithos in this case is getting the key as well14:46
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Spetznaz_hello guys15:06
Spetznaz_ /msg NickServ REGISTER email hunteranonymous901@yahoo.com15:06
Spetznaz_sorry15:06
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NitrogenHow do I convert 86 PNG Files to a single PDF?15:13
repozitoris there exist anyway to stop/pause the context switching for special process in ubuntu?15:15
repozitormy process need to have dedicate core, 100% of all the time.15:15
naccrepozitor: sounds like a hard RT question15:15
repozitorany context will destroy my application.15:15
repozitorof course it is.15:15
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SwedeMikeNitrogen: https://superuser.com/questions/350201/convert-many-images-to-one-pdf-on-mac  see the one about "imagemagick", that's available for Ubuntu as well.15:15
naccrepozitor: and a very fragile application that needs a non-generic OS15:15
ppfNitrogen: convert piecewise, then concatenate15:16
naccrepozitor: ubuntu is not a hard RT OS15:16
repozitornacc, you are saying my question is out of channel topic?15:16
naccrepozitor: i'm saying that you need  hard RT OS to do that15:16
naccrepozitor: you can do hacks to make it sort of works in linux (cpusets, isolcpus)15:16
Bad_Dreamdoes anyone have experience with xrdp? im having no luck setting it up. i can connect but dont see the desktop or have control over it15:17
repozitori have setup cpuset, but i still see contex switch number is growing.15:17
repozitorit means cpusets can't prevent context switches.15:17
naccrepozitor: or you have more than one process in your cpuset15:18
repozitornacc, i have exactly one process in cputset.15:18
repozitori mean one process in shield.15:18
naccrepozitor: or your cpusets overlap?15:18
acresearchpeople, i have a python binary compiled and it is -r-x------ it executes normally if i run it python3 FILENAME.pyc but will not run ./FILENAME.pyc ---> why?15:18
repozitorwhat do you mean by overlap?15:18
ppfacresearch: ./FILENAME.py is probably missing a hashbang15:19
acresearchppf: let me check15:19
pynki_(a,b) (b,c) overlap...\15:19
naccrepozitor: cpus are present in multiple cpusets15:20
naccrepozitor: also cpusets do not prevent kernel preemption15:20
repozitornacc, my cpu have 4core, one core is shielded for hard-realtime process. the other cores run all other tasks15:20
naccrepozitor: again, ubuntu kernel (by default) is not a hard rt kernel15:20
naccrepozitor: "shielded" how?15:20
acresearchppf: it does : #!/usr/bin/python315:20
repozitornacc, i have to prevent kernel preemtion.15:20
naccrepozitor: then cpusets won't help you15:20
ppfacresearch: you don't run the 'compiled' file, you run the python file15:20
repozitornacc, i should say my command?15:20
YounderAll kernels have kernel preemption15:21
naccrepozitor: you need isolcpus15:21
repozitornacc, is there exist any patch or module for preventing kernel preemtion?15:21
naccYounder: there are ways to elide cpus from the runnable cpu list15:21
acresearchppf: what do you mean? i know i can run the python file, but i want to know how to run the compiled file15:21
naccacresearch: you don't run the compiled file15:21
repozitornacc, isolcpus prevent kernel preemtion?15:21
naccacresearch: the interpreter knows what to do15:21
ppfacresearch: you can't15:22
ppfnot from the terminal, not like ./bla.pyc15:22
acresearchnacc: so why is there is function to compile a python script?15:22
naccrepozitor: read about it, isolcpus puts some cpus in isolation and the kernel scheduler doesn't interact with it. I believe it doesn't put kthreads on it, but i'm not sure15:22
geniiacresearch: Python is an interpreted and not compiled language15:23
naccacresearch: because the interpreter compiles it and uses it (aiui)15:23
naccacresearch: the .pyc file just speeds up the interpretation step of the .py file loading15:23
ppfacresearch: this is about running it, not compiling it15:23
repozitormy application have only one thread.15:23
repozitorif kernel put some cpu in isolation, can i run my process on that core?15:23
ppfgenii: weeeell15:23
acresearchgenii: nacc ppf ok i get it :-)15:23
naccs/compiles/interprets/15:23
repozitornacc, that was for me?15:23
naccrepozitor: yes15:23
naccrepozitor: again, please read about it15:23
repozitorok i got it15:24
YounderMost real time OS'es like QNS only make sure that the system can remain no. They do this by only taking down the processes needed to keep things running. So they avoid the need to reboot. Hard RT is done by divisioning into small peces and making sure you keep under the deadline or by adding dedicated processors. I am currently using a FPGA for that purpose.15:27
YounderThat is a software radio and motor control.15:28
repozitorYounder, of course FGPA with feature can be accessible in custom design.15:28
repozitorbut in many cases you have only one option.15:28
repozitorand it is ubuntu.15:28
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naccYounder: agreed -- and ubuntu (generically) is not hard RTOS and can't be one without manual changes15:29
YounderNever the less real time is a combination of software and hardware.15:29
naccrepozitor: then you have no options, probably, I don't think even with isolcpus you can guarantee hard RT on ubuntu15:29
nacchard RT is an assertion15:29
repozitornacc, if kernel exclude one from scheduling, then i'm sure my process is realtime.15:30
naccrepozitor: oh ok, if all that matters is that you're sure15:30
naccrepozitor: then sure, anything is hard RT15:30
naccthat's *not* how hard RT works15:30
repozitorbecause in my application, if my process run always on dedicate core, it will works fine.15:30
naccrepozitor: then you don't want hard RT15:31
naccrepozitor: you want CPU isolation15:31
repozitornacc, differentiating hard-realtime from cpu isolation isn't our goal. but if i isolate one cpu from scheduling(actually preventing context switch) i will have hard-realtime feature for my application.15:32
repozitorright?15:32
helplessDisplay managers aren't working for me, how do I go and troubelshoot this?15:32
ducassehelpless: first, by defining "aren't working".15:36
helplessDisplaymanagers work15:36
helplessbut when I try to launch a DE after entering the credentials I get a black screen and back to login15:36
ducassecan you login as guest?15:36
helplessNope and not as root either15:37
helplessThe issue persists with most distributions15:37
naccrepozitor: i'm not sure, as i believe, e.g., kernel IRQ servicing may still happen. You'd need to read about what isolcpus asserts and doesn't15:37
ducassehelpless: which ubuntu is this?15:37
helplessKubuntu atm15:37
helplessbut I'm pretty sure its with most Ubuntus15:37
ducassehelpless: version?15:38
helplessas the issue persists no matetr which distribution I'm using15:38
helpless17.1015:38
ducassehelpless: 17.10?15:38
naccwell that seems unlikely15:38
helpless17.04*15:38
nacc:)15:38
wiggmpkIs wayland use with nvidia not possible on 17.04?15:38
ducassehelpless: try looking at ~/.xsession-errors after attempting to log in15:39
helplessIt was empty15:39
helplessI had the exact same issue with OpenSUSE and Arch as well15:39
helplessThe only way I can use the OS is to xinit manually and not use a DM15:39
Younderthe file is in /var/log/session15:40
helplessThanks, I'll have to boot back into linux, brb15:40
ducasseYounder: which file? is that a kde thing?15:41
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Spetznaz_hello everyone can anyone tell me how could i change the default design of my terminal.15:45
ducasseSpetznaz_: design?15:45
Spetznaz_<ducasse> for example adding some arts in my terminal to be it more lovely using PS1 , PS2, PS3 and PS415:46
ducasseSpetznaz_: the easy way - powerline.15:47
Spetznaz_powerline? what is that thing.. is it a tool to be downloaded? Mr.ducasse15:48
ducasseSpetznaz_: it's in the repos, but it requires reading the docs. it can be pretty, if you like that kind of thing.15:49
Spetznaz_why this pinging always showing me... uhh15:51
lamerchencaelky ikonai whats up lames15:51
Spetznaz_lamerchenca ur the lame15:52
lamerchencao yea15:52
Spetznaz_lamerchenca : are u a web developer?15:53
naccSpetznaz_: don't feed trolls15:53
lamerchencano i vpn proxy trolle and abuse15:53
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hamidاثممخ15:56
hamidHELLO15:56
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Guest27708HOW COULD I INSATLE SOME SOFTWER15:57
ducasseGuest27708: press caps lock15:57
lamerchencaGuest27708:   open the terminal sudo su15:57
lamerchencapass15:57
ducasse!software | Guest2770815:58
ubottuGuest27708: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents15:58
lamerchencaapt install evrything15:58
lamerchencae some repos add15:58
Spetznaz_leamerchenca no troll for a russian guy like you15:58
lamerchencanon free15:58
lamerchencathis is vpn15:59
lamerchencai am Bulgarian15:59
lamerchencajust i am bann15:59
lamerchencasome irc tricks16:00
gavin_有人吗16:08
yasin...中文。。16:08
yasin大哥16:08
yasin这里有国际友人的吧16:08
yasin哈哈16:08
ducasse!cn16:09
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw16:09
yasin66616:10
Youndersdfsd16:11
lijiasduyhuhsd16:11
lijiahelle16:12
yasin....16:12
yasinlijia cn?16:12
lijiayes16:12
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yasinIt's too late to cn16:13
lijiayes,time to sleep16:13
yasinI have add you to my connection list.16:14
lijiaI run ubuntu mate on a raspberry Pi16:16
lijiayou are at sichuan? @yasin16:19
ducasselijia: yasin: please chat elsewhere, this is a support channel16:20
yasinyes16:24
yasinchengdu16:24
yasinsucasse: ok16:25
repozitormy realtime process need to share a segment of memory with it's child.16:32
repozitorafter moving realtime process to isolcpu, can they still pass data using isolcpu techique?16:32
repozitornacc, ^_^16:33
naccrepozitor: isolcpus is purely about cpu isolation16:34
naccrepozitor: it has nothing to do with memory (afair)16:34
repozitorstatic value for nonvoluntary_ctxt_switches and voluntary_ctxt_switches means no context switch occur on my process?16:35
ycyclistI'm trying to talk with a vm from another vm, and after a bit my access goes away so that it does not accept my password.16:35
repozitorhow to be sure that no context switch occured for my process?16:35
ycyclistThe exact message is:  Permission denied, please try again.16:36
blazefantsyyHi, how can I range ban from two first parts of an IP address?16:36
blazefantsyyHi how can I range ban from two first parts of an IP address?16:36
ycyclistI know I'm using the right password, as I can go log into a shell directly from the VM and it works, but ssh in does not.16:36
Spetznaz_hello homies how could i limit my bandwidth while accessing multiple sites?16:37
Spetznaz_im a ubuntu user .. keep that in mind16:37
rud0lfi have access to ubuntu on remote server through ssh.. what is the best way to persist LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" ?16:39
rud0lf.bashrc ?16:39
Spetznaz_rud0lf bashrc is for terminal colors16:39
rud0lfwhere then?16:39
Spetznaz_better download something rud0lf16:40
rud0lfi don't understand16:40
ducasserud0lf: ignore that16:41
Spetznaz_u mean u have access remotely in someones pc using ubuntu?16:41
rud0lfit's vps16:41
rud0lfi have sudo access tho16:41
ducasserud0lf: you can just put it in .bashrc, that's fine.16:42
rud0lfthanks16:42
troulouliou_devhi on a new laptop i have my m2 sata is seen as /dev/nvme0 on another computer with a mix of ssd and m2 it is seen as /dev/sdx; what is in charge of naming it like this ?16:43
ikoniatroulouliou_dev: most likley the controller16:45
troulouliou_devikonia, yep seems so ; Non-Volatile memory controller vs other one16:45
troulouliou_devvs sata bus16:45
ikoniaone of my machines has a bios option to preset as sata or sata express16:46
Spetznaz_do some of you guys use iptables with NAT ?16:46
ikoniayes16:46
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Spetznaz_ikonia are u an expert in maintaining the firewall security while using ubuntu?16:48
ikoniaSpetznaz_: why don't you just ask your real question16:49
Spetznaz_okay okay16:49
Spetznaz_i would like to do some experiments about the iptables16:50
Spetznaz_just connecting to the internet using iptables through a hotspot that is not registered to any network services and that hostpot using phones free data only16:50
ycyclistSay, what does this mean?  grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `rootfs'.16:51
Spetznaz_ycyclist  it says give up!16:52
ikoniaSpetznaz_: no it doesn't16:52
ikoniaSpetznaz_: don't give bad information16:52
ycyclistWell, I'm getting this from Bash shell on Windows 10.16:53
ducasse!ubuwin | ycyclist16:53
ubottuycyclist: Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows.16:53
ycyclistI was wondering if anyone knows, since that is a damaged Ubuntu essentially, what to do to fix it.16:53
ducasseycyclist: read what ubottu said16:53
ycyclistGood thanks.16:53
ikoniait's damaged ubuntu how ?16:53
Spetznaz_ycylist we are ubuntu users16:54
Spetznaz_go to windows if thats the problem16:54
naccbash on windows is not ubuntu afaik -- it's just a shell16:54
naccSpetznaz_: stop it16:54
ducasse!ubuwin | ycyclist16:54
ducasse!behelpful | Spetznaz_16:54
ubottuSpetznaz_: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.16:54
ikoniaSpetznaz_: you won't be told again about bad information16:54
ycyclistThanks guys.  I'm asking my questions there.16:57
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Spetznaz_what was happening why it always say peer reset17:02
FinalXwhat triggers this upon login?: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS end-of-life is April 25, 2017 -- Upgrade your Precise systems!17:06
daxupdate-motd17:06
FinalXit's in a brand new 17.04 install..17:06
daxwhich talks to a website, which has that on it17:06
FinalXbash: update-motd: command not found17:06
FinalXah hm17:06
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yellabs-r2is there a nice video to show what ubuntu is , somewhere ? For introduction to interested new users ..17:07
immuyoutube17:08
yellabs-r2dont they have an official video somewhere ?17:09
FinalXdax: is that displayed on any Ubuntu system as part of a motd-news thing that I see? or is there a specific thing that triggers it? because I'm wondering what triggers that since I'm running 17.04 and it's telling me to upgrade like this :p17:09
daxFinalX: it's not a specific thing, you can ignore it17:09
daxno idea why canonical added it in the first place, to be honest17:10
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yellabs-r2found a nice one , https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNnUnr4gwyNmzx_Bbzvt29g17:13
kang0Anyone know grub commands to check instalation?17:16
ikoniagrub checks an installation ?17:17
kang0I guess ikanobori17:17
kang0ikonia17:17
kang0What's Its usages?17:17
nacckang0: rephrase your question, state a problem first17:17
kang0I installed mint in hdd17:18
generichow do I install a font for chinese/ is that unicode ?17:18
kang0But its not booting up17:18
nacc!mint | kang017:18
ubottukang0: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)17:18
kang0So I want to verify17:18
ikoniayou where told mint is not supported here17:18
genericsome rectangles with numbers ..17:18
kang0Sorry Ubuntu17:18
ikoniakang0: no lies please17:18
immuikonia, nope only ubuntu17:18
kang0Imagine17:18
kang0Not lies17:19
ducassekang0: you've been told this many times17:19
genericmint != ubuntu17:19
ikoniakang0: no17:19
ikoniakang0: use mint support17:19
immuikonia, go here  #linuxmint-help17:19
kang0It's not about mint17:19
ikoniakang0: it is17:20
ikoniakang0: drop it17:20
kang0Why17:20
ikoniayou where told mint is not supported here17:20
ikoniakang0: drop it17:20
ducassekang0: we've explained this several times before17:20
immukang0, hmm17:21
ocx32 https://pastebin.com/CvUSDzsW Can someone help please? I cant get gnome to work17:24
roelofI want to pastebin my mail.log so I did cat mail.log | pastebinit  but when I do that I see a encode error message17:25
roelofwhat did I do wrong ?17:25
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ducasseroelof: try running 'sudo locale-gen' first17:25
ocx32anyone?17:25
ducasseocx32: kali?17:26
ocx32ducasse: kali , ubuntu all!17:26
ducasse!kali | ocx3217:26
ubottuocx32: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)17:26
Guest525I, I'm trying to boot Ubuntu on an AM4 platform, 1800X+Gigabyte K7 board..... running into the IRC trap 07 problem.  Is there a stable working version (14.04?)17:26
roelofducasse : still this error :  utf-8 codec cannot decode byte 0xff in position 120954 invalid start byte17:27
ocx32?!17:27
roelofwierd,  I did not change anything and this morning everything was working fine17:28
ducasseroelof: didn't you just ask about changing locale variables?17:28
roelofnope, I ask a question about pastebin acting wierd17:29
ducasseroelof: sorry, i mixed you up with someone else, since it seemed related :)17:29
roelofducasse:  no problem17:30
ducasseroelof: what is your locale set to?17:30
roelofducasse:  how can I check that17:30
ducasseroelof: echo $LC_ALL17:30
roelofducasse:  empty respons17:30
ducasseroelof: echo $LANG17:31
Rapturetrying to get some env variables working through non-interactive shell -- tried putting them in ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile and ~/.profile with no luck. Looks like ssh -t user1@1.2.3.4 "sudo echo $MY_VAR"17:31
Raptureif I'm reading the docs correct it should look for one of those17:31
roelofducasse:  nl_NL.utf-817:31
rizonzwhat is the way to create an init.d script and make it recognized as service on 16.04 ?17:33
ducasseroelof: sorry, had to fix something. could be an invalid unicode character in your log. does 'cat mail.log | nc termbin.com 9999' work better?17:40
u0_a162hello17:47
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roelofducasse:  that one does show a lot17:47
roelofthanks17:47
ducasseroelof: np17:47
Wirehunterhi all17:53
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Guest16846Hello. I need some help with pulseaudio, which for some reason cannot make my front connector play any sound, while the back one is just fine. Anyone?17:55
pavlosrizonz: see example services section in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers17:57
WulfHello17:58
WulfI upgraded to 17.04 and now my touch pad doesn't handle "three finger tap" anymore. How to fix this?17:59
rizonzpavlos: ok thanks18:00
rizonzanyone know as well how I can set arch=amd64 during preseed ?18:01
naccrizonz: what do you mean? in a specific file?18:07
rizonznacc: I need to have my sources list as [arch=amd64] only after I preseed18:07
naccrizonz: are you instsalling on a 32-bit system?18:08
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rizonznacc: sure not but some packages need to have that set otherwisde there is searched for the 32 bit ones18:09
naccrizonz: why are you using the 32-bit iso?18:10
naccrizonz: if you are preseeding the amd64 install, it will not install 32-bit packages18:10
rizonznacc: I'm not18:10
naccrizonz: then provide an example of this, as it sounds fundamentally incorrect18:10
tgm4883rizonz: what packages are getting 32-bit versions installed?18:10
rizonznacc: freeipa-client, if you don't have the 32 bits packages on your local repo it cannot find it, if you set your repo's to arch=amd64 only it does18:11
Guest525No bites?  (I'm trying to boot Ubuntu on an AM4 platform, 1800X+Gigabyte K7 board..... running into the IRC trap 07 problem.  Is there a stable working version (14.04?))?  :P18:12
naccrizonz: freeipa-client is available in all releases on all arches18:12
naccrizonz: so your repo is fubar?18:12
tgm4883rizonz: i just searched for freeipa-client on my 64-bit box and it finds it fine18:12
rizonznacc: if you preseed against a 64 bits mirror only it will not find it, after it succeed not as well18:13
rizonztgm4883: against a mirror that has 64bits packages only ?18:13
rizonztry that18:13
rizonzwithout setting arch=amd6418:14
tgm4883rizonz: it's going to take me a bit to setup a 64-bit only mirror18:14
rizonztgm4883: if you already have a local one than it's done quickly :)18:15
ducasseGuest525: afaik you need 17.04 and a very very recent mainline kernel.18:15
tgm4883rizonz: I don't. At my house I don't have a local mirror anymore and at work my boxes are centos18:15
rizonztgm4883: aha ok18:15
Guest525ducasse: Necessary to compile the kernel myself then?18:15
ducasse!mainline | Guest525 grab it here18:16
ubottuGuest525 grab it here: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds18:16
kailiHello. I copied data on a fat32 usb stick from ubuntu 17.04 but I believe some files are corrupted : showing 0 octet as file size but in reality they are big18:16
Guest525ducasse: Thanks will try that ^_^18:16
kailihow can I correct that "18:16
Random832kaili, fsck, but it might delete the file instead of giving you your data back.18:17
ducassekaili: did you properly unmount the stick before removing it?18:17
kailiWhat I mean is that du -h on the key gives 1.1 mo but df -h shows 468 mo18:17
kailiducasse: I think so18:17
ZwiggyHello, im very new to linux and have no clue what to do. i tried to google but nothin18:18
nacc!manual | Zwiggy18:18
ubottuZwiggy: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/18:18
Zwiggythere is this site which plays basically youtube videos, but it wont load after i messed around with Wine trying to add VST to my Lmms18:19
Zwiggybut now this site just keeps loading18:19
Zwiggysite works fine on w10 just chekced18:19
naccrizonz: i'm still not sure i follow why adding [amd64] would matter if your repository is only amd64. But in nay case, you'd probably have to do it by hand in your preseed18:19
Zwiggyjust chekced, site works fine on firefox on ubuntu aswell18:20
kailiRandom832: does fsck runs on ntfs usb stick18:20
naccZwiggy: it only fails under wine?18:20
Random832you said it was fat3218:20
Zwiggywhy im askin, is because it worked few hours back.18:20
Zwiggyno wine is closed18:20
Zwiggybut it happend after i did something with wine18:20
Zwiggysite itself is https://treesradio.com/18:20
Random832if it's ntfs you should *probably* run chkdsk on a windows machine. and then the same applies, it will probably just fix the free space and either delete the file or leave it empty18:21
Random832if it was your only copy of the data then, well, it might be gone, or you might be able to recover it by searching through a raw dump of the disk, but hope it wasn't your only copy.18:21
kailiRandom832: damn there is no way to recover the data ? It's very important mail such as airplanes tickets and so ...18:21
kailiyes it's the only copy....18:22
theablestmanhi18:22
Random832i mean that's the thing - the data might be there, it might not, but there's no recipe i can just give you to follow and recover it.18:22
theablestmanhow do get google chrome browser using terminal?18:22
Random832you should definitely make a backup image of the disk18:23
theablestmansudo apt-get install chrome?18:23
Random832and then try photorec18:23
nacctheablestman: you get it from google (or you can use chromium)18:23
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kailiRandom832: thanks will try that18:23
theablestmank18:23
geniitheablestman: For chromium you can do that, but for chrome you need to install Google's repositories18:23
Random832but there's no guarantees18:23
Random832you could search by hand through a hex dump if you know what the data looks like and it was in plain text (not compressed)18:24
ducasse!recovery | kaili18:24
ubottukaili: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode18:24
Bashing-omtheablestman: No. Google-chrome is proprietarty to google. Got to get it from Google . What is in our repo is chrominum-browser .18:24
ducasse!recover | kaili18:24
ubottukaili: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery18:24
ducassekaili: ^^18:24
kailiI have no idea of the file format it was evolution mail's data18:25
kailiI guess it must be text18:25
tgm4883rizonz: does dpkg not know what arch to use in the preseed environment?18:25
kailibut a lot of files were pdf, such as airplane tickets lol18:25
EriC^^kaili: try testdisk18:25
EriC^^it works very well with fat32, then try photorec if that doesn't work18:25
rizonztgm4883: I think not but even after it, the sources.list need amd64 as well18:25
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Random832kaili, maybe you should contact the airline or your travel agency to see if you can get another copy of your tickets18:27
kailiWill try bothm thanks18:27
Random832if they're future tickets rather than past ones that is18:28
kailiRandom832: yesm that should be fine. But I also had lot of data I need beside that18:28
kailiWhen I open evolution I have mail's title. just no content at all18:28
tgm4883rizonz:  "dpkg-architecture --list"18:28
Random832ok you need to stop accessing the disk, everything you do with it in read-write mode is risking making it harder to recover your data18:29
Random832anyway good luck18:29
kailithanks ^^18:29
rizonztgm4883: what about it ?18:30
tgm4883rizonz: does it list amd6418:30
tgm4883rizonz: also, looks like you might be able to set APT::Architecture=<arch>   https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO#Setting_up_apt_sources18:31
rizonztgm4883: thanks! will look into it in about an hour18:31
nutzzIs there any package for tomcat7 on ubuntu 17.04?18:35
nacc!info tomcat7 zesty18:36
ubottuPackage tomcat7 does not exist in zesty18:36
naccnutzz: --^18:36
nutzzthanks18:36
naccnutzz: so the source package does exist, but not the binary package18:36
ducassenutzz: only tomcat818:36
gimpy936how can I disable pop-up notifications in 16.04?  Google shows lots of really odd ways to do this, is there really no way just to turn it off?18:39
kailiHey again18:40
kailiI have something interesting with test disk, when I enter the folder where the data should be, I have data file with a normal filename of size 0, but I also have file with a weird filename of normal size18:42
kailiI believe evolution tries to read normal file of 0 size18:42
kailiFile with normal size are all like 1378465.Spectre:2,S18:43
kailiIt's the :2,S which is not normal18:43
nacckaili: i think that's a normal Maildir suffix?18:44
Random832https://serverfault.com/questions/435325/whats-the-meaning-of-suffixes-that-procmail-assigns-to-mail-filenames18:44
kailiWell I don't know if that's normal for evolution....18:44
Random832ok, you said this was NTFS right?18:44
EriC^^kaili: try to recover the file using "C" or "c"18:44
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ducassekaili: did you make an image of the stick before starting this?18:45
Random832i think your problem might be that filenames with : in them are not normal in NTFS18:45
kailiducasse: yes18:46
Random832if you make a copy of this on a normal (not NTFS or FAT) filesystem, and delete all the empty filenames that don't have the suffix, it might work normally18:46
kailiEriC^^: the saved file doesn't show up18:46
sinyu哈囉18:46
Random832!cn | sinyu18:46
ubottusinyu: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw18:46
EriC^^kaili: does it say copied successfully?18:46
kailiYes18:46
Random832where did it copy it to?18:46
sinyuhello18:46
kailiSorry I spoke too fast, thef ile did show up !18:48
kaili1492786337.8419_5.Spectre_2,S of size 103ko18:49
Random832kaili, the :2,S is a normal suffix for maildir filenames, you might need to delete the empty files for evolution to be able to see them.18:49
kailiSo if I remove the _2,S evolution should be able to read them right ?18:49
Random832...and not rename them to _2,S - are you recovering these directly on the NTFS disk and not copying them to your linux disk?18:49
kailiRandom832: testdisk renamed it on its own18:49
kailiit wasn't me18:49
Random832ok18:49
Random832but i'd assume it would only do that if you're recovering directly to the NTFS disk18:50
Random832anyway you should probably move/copy the whole thing to a non-NTFS/FAT disk18:50
Random832then rename all the _2,S (or whatever) files back to :2,S18:50
Random832and then delete all the empty files18:50
kailiThe question is : do I need to remove the suffix or not ?18:50
kailioh I see18:50
Random832i *think* it needs the suffix - it might only need it to know that the message has been read18:51
Guest525ducasse: Tried kernel 4.11.0-041100rc8, no luck I think, hanging on "Loading initial ramdisk ..."18:51
Random832in the future you should probably make a tar.gz file of your mail directory instead of directly copying the whole thing to an NTFS drive18:51
kailiYes I got my lesson haha18:52
kailiIt's because I always did that with thunderbird and never had a problem18:52
kailiBut thunderbird is cross plateform so maybe it's a different setup18:52
freizahow to set DVI-I-1 resolution in nvidia-xconfig18:54
ducasseGuest525: ok, that was the best suggestion i had, sorry.18:54
kailibrb going to try to open them with evolution :x18:55
Guest525ducasse: Thanks, this is the relevant bug by the way https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/167136018:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1671360 in linux (Ubuntu) "System doesn't boot properly on Gigabyte AM4 motherboards (AMD Ryzen)" [Medium,Confirmed]18:56
Guest525Hmmm, weirdly some people report success with 16.04 there, but I have the problem with 16.04 and 17.04.18:58
Guest525Ah, nvm, they used optical media, not sure why it matters.... but yeah, I was trying from USB.18:59
ducasseGuest525: could be a problem with the usb controller chipset18:59
Guest525ducasse: Hmm, someone says they got 4.11.0-rc6 working with only the pinctrl-amd option different from default.19:04
capum321hello19:08
capum321what browser works on low ram foorprint and backward compatible with 14.04?19:08
ikoniadefine low ram footprint19:09
capum321little ram usage19:09
capum321RAM as in memory19:09
ikoniadefine how low19:09
capum321i have 2 GB RAM19:10
ikoniathats fine for something like lubuntu or xubuntu with firefox19:10
capum321turns out gnome web isn't backward compatible19:11
ikoniathats not what I said19:11
capum321i see19:11
stripeexit19:12
Bashing-om!info dillo trusty19:13
ubottudillo (source: dillo): Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.3-6 (trusty), package size 517 kB, installed size 1266 kB19:13
capum321Bashing-om: I have dillo19:15
capum321is not working in some aspects19:15
ikoniacapum321: what version of ubuntu are you actually running (with what desktop)19:16
paulcrownI need a fresh set of eyes. With ufw enabled, mailserver receives no emails, see iptables http://paste.ubuntu.com/24455883/  With ufw disabled, all works, see iptables http://paste.ubuntu.com/24455884/19:16
ikoniapaulcrown: f2b-postfix-sasl  tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             multiport dports smtp19:17
capum321ikonia: 14.04 i told you19:17
capum321ikonia: lxde-core19:17
ikoniacapum321: again READ what I said19:17
ikoniacapum321: ok - so you're using lubuntu 14.04 ?19:17
capum321no19:17
ikoniaexplain exactly what you are using19:17
capum321i used a minimal iso19:17
ikoniacapum321: so what's the problem with firefox19:18
paulcrownikonia: with ufw disabled f2b-postfix-sasl works as expected19:18
ikoniapaulcrown: right, you're dropping postfix ports19:19
ikoniapaulcrown: then when you disable ufw you're not dropping postfix ports19:19
capum321ikonia: last time I check it consume almost all my RAM. i am trying to run other apps along19:21
ikoniacapum321: it seems very unlikley that a single tab of firefox would consume most of your 2GB when you are running a light distro build from lxde19:21
capum321maybe i will try midori19:23
ikoniayeah, best to just randomly stab at things rather than look at either your missunderstanding, or the fact there will be an underlying problem if firefox is taking up 2gb of ram19:24
Bashing-omcapum321: Is there a problem with resource management ? As unused ram is wasted ram . It is there to be used .19:24
ikoniaBashing-om: nah, lets just try midori19:25
capum321it doesn't even opens19:25
ikoniacapum321: what doesn't19:25
capum321midori19:25
capum321it crashed19:25
ikoniacapum321: do you want an honest solution to try to get a working desktop environment19:26
Bashing-omikonia: capum321 I lurk and learn :)19:26
ikoniaBashing-om: you'll learn little from this interaction sadly19:26
ash_workzwhy would I suddenly get 'Read-only file system' when I try to write something?19:26
ikoniaash_workz: disk / file system failure event19:26
ducasseash_workz: see dmesg19:26
ash_workz'[36390816.756620] ERROR: (device sdc1): DT_GETPAGE: dtree page corrupt'19:27
capum321you are not right at this point19:27
ikoniacapum321: not right about what ?19:27
capum321but you said something can be true the desktop is not functional19:28
ikoniacapum321: the desktop will work just fine19:28
ikoniaI suspect you have screwed up because of using the minimal install19:28
ikoniacapum321: just do a standard lubuntu install from the lubuntu ISO, and try to use it, see how the resource is for you doing everything you want19:28
ikoniathen if you have a prolem - come back and ask19:28
ash_workzcan you scp to your own user but use sudo to get files?19:30
ash_workzsomehow19:30
capum321ikonia it's not like that. all other software are operating. except broswer streaming19:30
ikoniacapum321: streaming....19:30
ikoniacapum321: it feels like that19:31
naccash_workz: maybe rephrase, your question reads ... confusingly right now19:31
capum321what?19:32
gimpy936ash_workz: you mean so you invoke sudo on the remote end?  I'm not aware of how scp can do it but rsync can do it by telling it your ssh program is 'sudo ssh' ... but you need to tweak sudo on the other end too (set NOPASSWD and some tty setting I forget)19:34
ikoniawhy would you sudo ssh19:35
ikoniathat just launchs the ssh binary as the root user19:35
jerichowasahoaxgimpy936: that doesn't sudo on the remote end, that sudos on the local end and attempts to ssh as root19:36
jerichowasahoaxgimpy936: if that actually works for you, that's a big security hole you need to fix19:36
naccash_workz: i think what you were asking for, though, is sudo scp <some files> user@host:/path/to/write ?19:37
naccash_workz: but you would only need that if you needed sudo to *read* the files locally19:37
jerichowasahoaxi usually invoke sudo remotely with: ssh -t hostname.example.net "sudo some_command"19:37
naccash_workz: all speculation so far, and you've stopped responding... :)19:38
jerichowasahoax(the -t makes it allocate a tty so it can ask for the password)19:38
gimpy936jerichowasahoax: nope, you can have it just sudo on the remote end and run as a non-priv user locally ... it's not a security hole, it's just something rsync can do19:38
rizonztgm4883: mhh nothing about preseed19:39
jerichowasahoaxgimpy936: is this an rsync parameter? i need to double check the man page19:39
naccjerichowasahoax: iirc, rsync can be told any command is 'ssh'19:39
gimpy936jerichowasahoax: nacc is right ... to be fair, it's hacky but you can make it work19:39
jerichowasahoaxnacc: ok, but how does changing the local ssh command invoke sudo on the remote end?19:40
naccjerichowasahoax: if you make 'ssh' be 'ssh -t $host sudo $cmd'19:40
naccjerichowasahoax: then you are forcing every ssh command to be run with sudo on the remote19:40
jerichowasahoaxnacc: that makes more sense than setting it to "sudo ssh"19:40
naccjerichowasahoax: I *think* that's the claim19:40
naccsubstituting the right things to make rsync happy that was pseudoshell :)19:41
jerichowasahoaxnacc: i'm under the impression that you have to enclose the command in quotes when ssh is run that way, but i could be wrong19:41
ash_workzsorry, it was a dumb question19:42
naccjerichowasahoax: in some ways, that'd be no different than alias ssh='/usr/bin/ssh ...' and run rsync19:42
naccjerichowasahoax: it's just rysnc let's you specify it just to rsync19:42
naccjerichowasahoax: yeah, probably :)19:42
naccjerichowasahoax: was more of a gist than a working example19:42
ash_workzI thought that files I normally have to access with sudo would be denied if I connected to scp from my regular account19:42
naccash_workz: it's still super unclear what you're saying19:43
naccash_workz: but as long as you thjink the question was dumb and retract it, we can move on :)19:43
ash_workzlike `scp -r ash-m@host:/etc etc` <-- I thought that I would get 'permission denied' errors19:43
naccash_workz: in the future, it's good to define where the users you are referring to are e.g. (user1 on host1)19:43
naccash_workz: as long as ash-m has read on 'host' and current user has write on ., then it won't19:44
ash_workzso it would seem :P19:44
sklarrI just updated to 17.04 and everything has internet connection except my browsers and vpn19:45
sklarrwhat's going on?19:45
sklarrcan't seem to find anything relating to this online19:46
jerichowasahoaxsklarr: bad proxy settings?19:47
sklarrbut wouldn't that prevent IRC, and telegram, etc from connecting as well19:47
jerichowasahoaxonly if they were bad system proxy settings19:48
sklarrjerichowasahoax:19:48
sklarrjerichowasahoax: I did a complete removal on web browsers and reinstall19:48
sklarrdid not work.19:48
jerichowasahoaxsklarr: including removing their configuration from your home directory?19:48
sklarrI've never had to do anything proxy related before for connection..19:49
sklarrI didn't do that.. will try that19:49
BluesKajsklarr, so apt update and upgrade woek19:49
Bashing-omsklarr: Mybe see if this : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2358660 applies . How to no connectivity Ubuntu DNS problem [fix]19:49
sklarrBluesKaj: yes, apt-get update works19:50
sklarrjust tried it19:50
BluesKajok19:50
motteguten Abend20:01
kailiI recovered all my mails & data. Thanks to Random832 EriC^^ and ducasse20:03
kailiTestdisk is a really nice tool20:03
ash_workzwhen using rsync can you exclude a whole directory (ie: /path/to/directory/) but using --exclude='directory/*' ?20:06
paulcrownikonia: I couldn't believe that f2b-postfix-sasl was disabled just because I disable ufw; so to test, I disabled postfix-sasl all together.  If I enable ufw again, no emails.  See http://paste.ubuntu.com/24456141/20:08
ycyclistIt used to be, in the olden days when many of us could use Gnome rather than Unity, there were virtual desktops.20:10
ash_workzor I guess it's relative to the source directory? `rsync --exclude='foo' /home/ash-m ./ash-m` would exclude /home/ash-m/foo right?20:10
ycyclistHave those really gone away?  They are really handy.20:10
ycyclistI don't want compiz.  I just want a simple index window.20:12
nrml1anyone know the way to statically set the nodev flag on /run?20:12
delzohi for all20:14
xanguaycyclist: mate is a gnome 2 fork20:17
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Jaden_KorrCould anyone tell me how I can get rid LXD/LXC including all the dependencies they pulled in? Looks like SSH is an option during install, but a whole container virtualisation environment with multiple daemons and network bridges is not.20:20
pavlosJaden_Korr: use dpkg -l | grep lxd and then purge with dpkg --purge lxd ... repeat for all others20:24
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ycyclistOk.  Thank you.20:29
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__YiotaI'm trying to automate user addition with a blank password, is this possible via adduser?20:32
Bashing-omycyclist: I have not messed about with gnome, but xfce has the ability to enable additional virtual desktops .20:32
ycyclistIt sounds like we get Gnome soon.  I'll be glad when it's back.  Many of us were very inconvenienced by the move to Unity and the maintenance delays on Gnome.20:33
ChaiTRex__Yiota: You'll probably need to use `sudo passwd -d user`.20:35
__Yiotanah, I can do it with useradd20:35
__Yiotathx though20:35
KoleonHello guys, a basic question - what is better way to block incoming traffic: "iptables -A INPUT -j DROP" or "iptables -P INPUT DROP"??20:36
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KaiForceKoleon: I've seen the former more often, but I use shorewall if I really want to configure iptables20:37
KoleonKaiForce: Alright, thank you. So they seems to be equivalent, though?20:38
karanlearnsmakeshi i am using ubuntu 14.0420:39
karanlearnsmakeswhen i try to install xi-gtk it tells me that gtk > 3.1820:39
karanlearnsmakesis needed20:39
karanlearnsmakeshow do i just upgrade gtk+ to 3.1820:39
karanlearnsmakeswith ubuntu 14.0420:40
karanlearnsmakesi searched online but answers told me to upgrade ubuntu itself20:40
xanguaAre you installing this software outside of repositiries¿ karanlearnsmakes20:40
KaiForceKoleon: I believe they will functionally do the same thing20:40
karanlearnsmakesto install xi-gtk i do - git clone https://github.com/eyelash/xi-gtk.git cd xi-gtk mkdir build cd build meson .. ninja20:41
karanlearnsmakesgit clone ,cd , meson , ninja20:42
xanguakaranlearnsmakes: then yes you need to upgrade Ubuntu itself20:42
IronDevCan someone help me out with a graphics prob20:42
karanlearnsmakesok - so i tried to upgrade ubuntu20:42
Jaden_Korrpavlos: Thanks. Seems that that is the only option, i just saw that lxd and snapd are Recommended deps of the ubuntu-server metapackage and are not in a tasksel task20:42
kostkonkaranlearnsmakes, and what happened?20:43
karanlearnsmakes143 packages are going to be removed. 804 new packages are going to  be installed. 2051 packages are going to be upgraded.   You have to download a total of 1,668 M. This download will take  about 3 hours 41 minutes with your connection.20:43
karanlearnsmakes:)20:43
karanlearnsmakes4 hours is estimated20:43
karanlearnsmakeshow do i reduce this time.20:43
karanlearnsmakesi gotta sleep too man :)20:43
KaiForceadd more pigeons to your internet connection20:43
pavlosJaden_Korr: I use locate <something> then sudo updatedb and do the locate again till I have every file removed from my system.20:43
IronDevkaranlearnsmakes: What is ur internet speed?20:44
KoleonKaiForce: OK, thanks once again. :) Btw, I'm struggling with connection via ssh to host with rules: Chain INPUT (DROP) and with -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT. Chain OUTPUT (DROP) -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 22 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT. Unlucky I cannot connect to the remote host. Don't you have any idea please?20:44
karanlearnsmakesspeedtest.net says 14 mbps20:46
IronDevkaranlearnsmakes Shouldnt take that long20:47
karanlearnsmakesok20:47
karanlearnsmakesso is there an option to skip some packages20:47
karanlearnsmakesmost of the stuff i have installed is not needed now by me20:47
karanlearnsmakeswhen i upgrade ubuntu from 14.04 - can i skip some packages20:48
howudodatany iptables experts here?  I have a simple rules question20:48
IronDevkaranlearnsmakes I don't really know about that20:49
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pierre_hello everybody20:51
KaiForceKoleon: shorewall is my answer to that.20:51
pierre_can somebody help me with xmlstarlet20:51
KoleonKaiForce: I see. I'll check it out. Thanks20:51
pierre_please20:51
karanlearnsmakesthanks irc20:51
pierre_my xml input is here: https://pastebin.com/x4TViXsE20:52
pierre_I try to query all the nodes under connections where attribute name =*_conn20:52
pierre_tried the following: xmlstarlet sel -t -c "/project/connections/connection[@name='*_conn']" sampleJson.xml but it does not return anything20:53
ArtemIs there a way to use remmina rdp and have openconnect auto start a vpn?20:55
ArtemId like to RDP into a offsite computer and have the connection start a VPN connection. Anyone have an idea on how to do this?20:56
dawid#Rizon21:20
dawidhello21:21
dawidhow I can join another channel>21:21
dawidwhich command should I type?21:21
oldschool^/join21:21
oldschool^/join #chan21:21
dawidthanks very much21:22
dawidhave a nice day//night21:22
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darkseid4nkquestion: what port does aptitude use to fetch hash sums? when i am using a shared internet connection, i can do pretty much everything except fetch hash sums with aptitude.21:30
darkseid4nkcan ping, can ssh out, etc.21:30
ikonia80 / 44321:31
ikoniait's just a http service21:32
morsnowskidarkseid4nk: i had that issue and using another DNS server fixed that, don't ask me why though21:36
jonfeni have a lenovo thinkpad yoga X1 running 17.04 and when i first start the computer i have the option of using the touchscreen keyboard to login unity.  but after that the lock screen doesn't give the touchscreen keyboard option.21:38
darkseid4nkweird. same dns server right to the router and it worked. if its coming from my laptop shared internet then it doesnt work.21:38
wstlndhowdy21:38
wstlndhowdy oerias21:39
wstlndhowdy21:40
Jello_Raptor_What channel should I use if I need help making a patch to an existing package? (I have the patch, but for the life of me can't figure out why `bzr builddeb` isn't making a .dsc file)21:41
OERIAShey wstlnd21:41
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Guest5409hello22:07
Guest5409I need to reset my 2FA device22:08
Guest5409for login.ubuntu.com22:08
Guest5409does anyone monitor these threads?22:09
daxGuest5409: #ubuntu is for community support, we don't handle Canonical infrastructure issues. See https://forms.canonical.com/sso-support/22:09
Guest5409@dax Yeah, the FAQ directed me to #isd, but no one is there22:10
Guest5409Is there more to it?22:10
dax#isd isn't a channel on freenode, it may be one on Canonical's internal IRC service.22:12
daxthere's a contact form on the page I linked, and there is also isd-support@canonical.com22:12
dax( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSO/FAQs/2FA#Help )22:13
MFD36Need a bit of input iam running Ubuntu 16.04 LTR should i upgrade to i think its 17.04 is there pros for upgrading or just stay with what i have.22:19
preppUpgrading is not guaranteed success. Have backups and be prepared to reinstall22:20
MFD36Ok thanks.22:20
Bashing-omMFD36: What is your motivation to deviate from a LTS release ?22:20
MFD36None really sounds stupid just did not know if there was some new great thing with the new one.22:21
naccMFD36: most likely reason (other than being a developer or just wanting to toy around) to be on non-LTS is hardware support, but that's why !hwe exists22:23
Bashing-omMFD36: Better support for newer hardware in 17.04 .22:23
MFD36i like 16.04 but am willing to look at better things if out there.22:23
naccMFD36: that statement "better things" is too vague to be answerable22:23
MFD36ok i understand22:23
MFD36yes sorry it was i trust u know a lot more than i do so for now i will stay were iam at thanks22:24
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kostkonMFD36, when did you install 16.04? You can always do the hwe upgrade if it applies to you, but even that is not a guaranteed success, although it's a simpler and more straightforward process.22:27
MFD36Ok thanks for the info22:28
kostkon!hwe22:28
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack22:28
Some_PersonOn my computer, there is a rather long delay between logging in and connecting to the network (using ethernet). Why is this?22:39
PMantis13hello everyone22:40
PMantis13just installed ubuntu, but didn't know I would have trouble with AMD gpu22:40
Some_PersonIt connects right away if I go to the menu and select "Wired connection 1"22:41
Some_Personbut is incredibly slow at doing that automatically22:41
PMantis13anyone knows how to get my current installed driver?22:41
tgm4883Some_Person: this is really shoestring information. Multiple NICs? Wireless on the machine too? Is it trying to use a different network profile when you login?22:42
tgm4883!details | PMantis1322:42
ubottuPMantis13: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.22:42
Some_PersonIt has wireless, but the wireless is disabled automatically when the system is docked (which it is in this case)22:42
AluminOK, clearly I'm missing something obvious and will kick myself once I figure out what's going on, but...I'm trying to change my shell and it won't "take".  I can see the new shell listed in /etc/passwd, it's in /etc/shells, but when I log in I still just get BASH.22:42
Some_Person"Wi-Fi is disabled by hardware switch"22:42
Ben64Alumin: have you tried turning it off and then on again22:43
Aluminyes!22:43
AluminI logged out and back in twice :)22:43
Some_PersonThe same thing seems to happen when I undock, which causes it to automatically switch to wifi, and then dock again. There's a long delay before it connects to ethernet again22:44
Ben64Alumin: what shell you trying to go to?22:44
AluminZsh22:44
Some_Personeven though I can do it immediately from the menu22:44
PMantis13I have a R9 280 GPU card, but there is no driver for Ubuntu on AMD's official driver page for this one. Is there any other way I can update it? I've seen the 'sudo apt-get install fglrx', but it fails saying "E: Package 'fglrx' has no installation candidate"22:44
naccPMantis13: fglrx no longer exists22:44
tgm4883PMantis13: what version of Ubuntu22:44
Ben64Alumin: "sudo usermod -s $(which zsh)" ??22:44
naccPMantis13: only on 14.04 (and 12.04 for a while)22:44
PMantis13I'm on 16.0422:45
AluminBen64: I don't want to just change it manually, these systems are being deployed using config management tooling22:45
Ben64Alumin: you should explain more then22:45
rizonzwhy is there still use :80 in the sources.list ?22:45
Aluminwell, I guess the real question is how does the login process determine which shell to run, other than the field in /etc/passwd?22:45
Alumin'cause in there it says /usr/bin/zsh22:46
Ben64Alumin: that's why i'm asking for more info, because that's it22:46
naccrizonz: your question is unparseable, but the string ":80" does not appear in /etc/apt/sources.list by default.22:47
Aluminyeah, that's how I've always understood it.  I don't even know what other information I could give22:47
AluminI'm logging in and getting a shell other than the one listed in passwd22:47
Ben64logging in how22:47
Some_PersonUnfortunately it's a pain in the butt to search for this issue. It's also a pain in the butt because I have a script that runs on login that needs network22:47
AluminSSH22:47
Some_PersonI also seem to be the only one in the office with this issue22:48
Aluminlet's see if I can at leat prove it's Ansible-related, I'll change it with usermod and see if that even sticks22:48
tgm4883Alumin: that's always a good idea22:48
Aluminnope.  And when I ran it, it said "usermod: no changes"22:49
Alumincurioser and curioser22:50
Ben64something else is going on then22:50
Alumin"grep -ir bash /etc/pam.d"  heh22:50
Aluminno results :)22:50
Some_PersonAny ideas?22:51
rizonznacc: I see a ot of port 80 set for the repos, I still wonder why22:51
naccrizonz: that's not the default, are you still using your local repo?22:51
tgm4883Alumin: have you thought of using '/bin/zsh'  since that seems to be the right path22:51
Aluminthat's what I used first22:51
rizonznacc: I know it from the past and my provisioning setup get's it from somewhere, I'm not sure yet from where22:52
naccrizonz: sounds like a bug in your provisioning setup22:52
M`aR`kjoin #farmos22:52
M`aR`kMissed a /, however you should join #farmos, lol.  If you like gardening and farming and what not.22:53
ikoniaM`aR`k: no thanks, please don't advertise22:53
rizonznacc: yeah but the source doesn't show it... will file a bugreport22:53
Aluminit's not related to Zsh it looks like, 'cause when I change my shell to dash that doesn't take either22:54
tgm4883Alumin: zsh works fine here only changing it in passwd22:54
Aluminyeah, it should22:54
Some_PersonI need to figure out why there's a long delay before my laptop connects to the network on startup. Wi-Fi is disabled in hardware, and the connection is ethernet. It connects immediately if I go to the menu and select "Wired connection 1", but takes like a couple minutes if I let it happen automatically.22:55
ikoniaSome_Person: remove the boot splash and watch the network come up22:55
Aluminok here's an interesting twist22:55
Some_Personikonia: How do I do that?22:56
rizonzfor local repo's do we need to add main restriced, etc for d-i apt-setup/local0/repository string ?22:56
Aluminif I su to my own username, I get the right shell22:56
rizonzI'm not following that22:56
ikoniaSome_Person: just hit tab or esc when you see the ubuntu bootsplash22:56
Some_PersonOkay, hold on22:56
CrazyLikeAFoxSo, I'm trying to copy some files from the hard disk of my old laptop to this one, without changing anything on the old drive.22:57
rizonzseems so22:57
CrazyLikeAFoxIt fails due to no permission though22:57
tgm4883CrazyLikeAFox: use sudo22:57
CrazyLikeAFoxtgm4883: If I do is as root, won't root be the owner of all the copies of the files?22:58
AluminCrazyLikeAFox: you could use sudo, run rsync -avP22:58
Aluminthat'll preserve your ownerships22:58
naccrizonz: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt22:59
tgm4883the ownerships would still be wrong though22:59
tgm4883CrazyLikeAFox: what are you trying to copy22:59
Aluminnot to mention make it easy to pick up where you left off if the transfer dies22:59
naccrizonz: afaict, if you are using a local repository, you must proivde the string exactly as you want it22:59
CrazyLikeAFoxwell, I used a different username this time than I have been using22:59
CrazyLikeAFoxtgm4883: the entire contents of a hard disk onto this computer22:59
CrazyLikeAFoxSo, this is the first time I've had this issue22:59
rizonznacc: yeah I'm comparing it to the default ones, gonna kick a new server and see what happens23:00
tgm4883CrazyLikeAFox: the entire contents? Is this is OS drive?23:00
CrazyLikeAFoxyes, and yes23:00
tgm4883CrazyLikeAFox: clone and resize?23:00
CrazyLikeAFoxer, I was going more for dump all the files, one folder for each partition's root, in a folder in my /home23:01
CrazyLikeAFoxyou know, permissions shouldn't matter since any file that's actually of interest should be owned by me/the equivlent on the old system23:03
CrazyLikeAFoxI just need to resursivly set them as such after the copy23:04
Aluminso, something's different about the login process you get with SSH, 'cause when I log in at the console I get the right shell23:05
Aluminlemme check sshd_config for that elusive DontAllowUsersToChangeShells option23:06
CrazyLikeAFoxhrm, it failed with thunar as root as well23:06
CrazyLikeAFoxthis is interesting23:06
CrazyLikeAFox"Error opening directory '/media/cooper/System/etc/ssl/private'." "Permission denied."23:07
gsilvaCrazyLikeAFox, are you running your commands with sudo?23:09
gsilvaThat worked for me, regardless of the user23:09
CrazyLikeAFoxyes23:10
CrazyLikeAFoxThat folder and the single file in it, ssl-cert-snakeoil.key fail every time23:11
CrazyLikeAFoxI seem to have access to other stuff in /etc/ssl23:11
gsilvaI have a machine with 3 users and when I need stuff inside the other two users folder, I have to use sudo and it usually works (lets say I'm master of it)23:12
AluminI figured it out. :)  When I logged out and back in and still got BASH, that was weird, but I blamed Ansible.  When I ran "su" to my own username and got the right shell, that was _really_ weird, but I blamed SSH.  Then I ssh-ed to localhost and got the right shell, and that's when things reached WTF levels of weirdness.23:19
Aluminturns out I out-clevered myself, heh23:20
Aluminwhen you are using SSH connection multiplexing ("ControlMaster" and friends), your subsequent connections are all still being made to the same, persistent, server-side SSH process...which has never restarted to pick up the change in /etc/shells23:20
Aluminso, you know, PEBCAK as usual23:21
Aluminjust thought y'all might get a kick out of hearing the solution :)23:21
CrazyLikeAFoxnevermind, I figure out what I was doing wrong23:23
CrazyLikeAFoxI still don't remember how to take ownership of all the files after I copy them though :S23:24
OY1Ri'm trying to install ubuntu 1604, i have mint installed before hand. Ubuntu is installed but i never get any boot options for mint and ubuntu23:24
CrazyLikeAFoxWhich OS is trying to boot?23:25
OY1Rmint boots23:25
CrazyLikeAFoxsounds like grub didn't get updated when ubuntu got installed23:26
spetznaz_what a small world... i got some simple ubuntu problem here guys, my ubuntu eventually hang for a couple of hours23:55
spetznaz_and still i cant resolve my pipebomb23:56
spetznaz_are there any humans here?23:58
maddawg2humans? where23:59
maddawg2i eat humans23:59

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