[00:00] <IronDev> Bashing-om: You think I should roll back to an older kernel
[00:10] <BetaSoul> Any one know of a halfway decent command line viop client? I want something I can run as a daemon.
[00:10] <BetaSoul> Headless if possible.
[00:14] <Bashing-om> IronDev: Fi not know . is amdgpu-PRO the corrent driver for the card ? ' inxi -G '  to show the card info .
[00:15] <IronDev> Bashing-om: Yes, the card is RX 480
[00:19] <Bashing-om> IronDev: confirmed . RX 480 and amdgpu-PRO . --- I do not know how to ourge/re-install AMD's driver anymore .
[00:20] <Bashing-om> purge*
[00:24] <craigbass76> What's the best way to get a service to start at boot? I've got /etc/init.d/servicename, and ran sudo update-rc.d servicename defaults, and on a 16.04 box that worked. I appear to have accidentally grabbed 17.04 for this box though, and I'm just going to keep it
[00:25] <EriC^^> !systemd | craigbass76
[00:29] <nacc> craigbass76: if you do decide to keep 17.04, please keep in mind the difference in support schedules
[00:29] <craigbass76> EriC^^: Gah! knew this was coming...
[00:30] <craigbass76> nacc: what do you mean? I was just going to go to 17.10 when it came out, then to 18.04 and stick there for a bit
[00:30] <nacc> craigbass76: right, just make sure you do, 17.04 goes eol in 9 months
[00:30] <nacc> craigbass76: many people install a non-LTS and then forget to update it seems (based upon this channel's history)
[00:31] <craigbass76> nacc: I think I learned my lesson with Hardy, but it might have been the I (Ibis?) one.
[00:31] <nacc> craigbass76: ok )
[00:31] <craigbass76> Been sticking with LTS since. I wasn't paying attention when I grabbed Lubuntu Friday...
[00:35] <Adam_> Does anyone know when the first 17.10 Daily Build will be released?
[00:36] <bazhang> Adam_, #ubuntu+1 for support and discussion
[00:40] <cnnx> i created a ubuntu usb boot disk from win10 and booted on my win10 laptop to but it didnt detect any bootable usb
[00:42] <cnnx> maybe my thinkpad cant boot from usb?
[00:55] <matt__> I believe there is a vulnerabillity in Bluez and bluetooth applet i don't even have a blue tooth adapter installed in my desktop pc and i keep getting bluetooth connections?
[00:57] <matt__> when i try to remove the printer or bluetooth drivers it then wants to remove MATE so whats this about i don't understand is Ubuntu Mate broken ???
[00:58] <segersjerry> Hi, I have an internal HD that was owned root.root. I changed it to root.<my user group> and chmodded it to give group write access. My questions are: is this likely to bite me in the ass later? Is there a better way?
[01:00] <matt__> i think thats bad jerry
[01:02] <matt__> any word when the 16.10 LTS will be released i am still running GTK 2.0 and there is a huge vuln i think with the way bluez interacts with the network even without an Adapter
[01:02] <matt__> i saw something about the vuln i think but it says that this is fixed in 16.10 is this true or false?
[01:03] <matt__> ello? anybody there?
[01:03] <bazhang> matt__, file a bug, join it and see if it is seen as duplicate
[01:04] <virtualriot> I forgot how to register my nick
[01:04] <virtualriot> The syntax
[01:04] <matt__> how do i do that>>with the report an issue aplication
[01:04] <matt__> ??
[01:04] <p3rror> Hello
[01:04] <bazhang> virtualriot, on freenode?
[01:04] <virtualriot> Yes
[01:04] <p3rror> is it possible to rewrite arpwatch on only bash
[01:04] <bazhang> virtualriot, why not ask on #freenode
[01:04] <virtualriot> Cause you know
[01:04] <matt__> i'll try that thanx
[01:05] <bazhang> matt__, you yourself said the bluez package
[01:06] <matt__> well i have been researching the issue for a few days ever since i noticed it . i never use boothtooth so i sortof happened upon by chance
[01:07] <matt__> i knew something was amiss so i started looking at stuff you know and kept coming up in syslog and i get an error on start up when the welcome screen plays the animation...the warning states as follows
[01:08] <bazhang> matt__, put that in the bug report
[01:08] <matt__> Ubuntu mate has experienced an internal error then goves opt to ignore and report, two check boxes the rror pops up after welcome upgrade
[01:08] <matt__> srry *gives
[01:09] <matt__> i did not report or ignore
[01:10] <matt__> i think its maybe a way to trick someone into giving up they're sys info
[01:10] <bazhang> matt__, no it's not
[01:11] <matt__> and something else may or may not be related but ubuntu mate went to sleep but i had disabled the option to sleep and have it set to never unless the setting was changed
[01:14] <matt__> so anyhow i saw a forum post similar to the question i was asking about the mysterious bluetooth connections like i can see there was a recent connection it's still in the list of recent connections but my system has no bluetooth adapter unless it's embedded in the motherboard it doesn't show up in any hardware profile
[01:15] <jardas> how to install external wifi adapter for ubuntu?
[01:15] <bazhang> jardas, usb?
[01:16] <matt__> anyone know how to decrypt 64 bit connection bluetooth connection name string cause that might give me some insite into whats going on with it or at least where the connection is comming from
[01:16] <matt__> not sure what to call it the bluetooth thingamajigger\
[01:16] <matt__> lol
[01:22] <mate__> ok
[01:22] <mate__> hi
[01:23] <mate__> @adamg
[01:24] <mate__> hi @mizu_no_oto
[01:24] <matt__> i noticed some config changes aswell ['!DiscvManager', '!GameControllerWakelock', '!Headset', '!NMDUNSupport', '!NMPANSupport', '!Networking', '!SerialManager', '!TransferService', '!DhcpClient', '!PPPSupport', '!AuthAgent', '!KillSwitch', 'ShowConnected']
[01:24] <mizu_no_oto> hi mate__
[01:25] <matt__> ok so those changes were made apparently for this mysterious connection
[01:25] <matt__> there is a playstation 4 in the house that uses bluetooth thats it
[01:26] <matt__> i also instlled Wine staging packages could this be an internal connection to configure mono or geko?
[01:27] <bazhang> matt__, ask about that in #winehq
[01:28] <matt__> the recent connections shows this for value eNprYPJmiC1kaCtk1AMAEQ4Cwg==
[01:29] <matt__> i don't know how to decrypt this so i have no idea where its coming from
[01:29] <bazhang> #winehq matt__
[01:29] <matt__> yes
[01:29] <theToolman> that looks like encode64
[01:29] <matt__> 2.4
[01:29] <theToolman> base64 encode
[01:29] <bazhang>  /join #winehq matt__
[01:29] <matt__> yes but istalled with multi arch support
[01:30] <matt__> 1386 amdx64
[01:30] <matt__> useing GNU drivers
[01:30] <bazhang> matt__, #winehq is a channel to join
[01:30] <matt__> it's an HP p6687C
[01:31] <matt__> amd chipset amd graphics card amd network adapter
[01:31] <matt__> realtec internal audio
[01:31] <bazhang> matt__, are you reading what I have written here
[01:32] <matt__> well ok but my queestion is about Bluez package default install Ubuntu MAte 16.04
[01:32] <bazhang> matt__, yes
[01:32] <bazhang> matt__, and the action there is to file a bug
[01:33] <matt__> maybe i answered my own question thanx i will check winehq and see if this is normal ops
[01:34] <matt__> i noticed the changes to the config and looks like setting up for controller support and networking two thing winehq could possibly need so thank you have a great day i will quest for answers there lol goodnight all
[01:37] <PMantis13> hello sll
[01:37] <PMantis13> all
[01:37] <PMantis13> just installing ubuntu, and the same old problem persists: PARTITIONS
[01:37] <PMantis13> I want one for root, boot, and swap
[01:38] <Unline> has anyone here got these books ? sed and awk 101 hacks - bash 101 hacks ?
[01:38] <PMantis13> root is primary, right? do I use ext4? boot, primary or logical? ext4 or ext2? swap parittion I'm fine hehe
[01:38] <bazhang> !ot | Unline
[01:44] <nacc> PMantis13: you don't need anything but a / partition
[01:44] <nacc> PMantis13: unless you are very confident, don't bother with a /boot partition
[01:44] <nacc> PMantis13: and you can use swapfiles (the default in 17.04+, iirc) rather than a dedicated swap partition
[01:44] <PMantis13> since I have windows in another disk, where will grub be installed?
[01:44] <PMantis13> in root?
[01:45] <nacc> PMantis13: grub is installed in the boot sector of the boot disk (or if using efi, i believe there is some magic there)
[01:46] <PMantis13> hmm I'll stick only with / then
[01:46] <PMantis13> I use ext4 or xfs?
[01:46] <nacc> PMantis13: afaik (I don't use windows), you shouldn't need a /boot to dualboot, they are unrelated
[01:46] <PMantis13> for root
[01:46] <nacc> PMantis13: your choice, ext4 is the default
[01:46] <nacc> PMantis13: are you using lots of large files?
[01:47] <nacc> also, why do people all of a sudden want to use XFS as their root fs?
[01:47] <PMantis13> internet told me that instead of using ext4 haha
[01:47] <nacc> you're not the first, PMantis13, but honestly, I've not heard of anyone using it on their non-server systems in a long while, it feels like
[01:47] <PMantis13> oh, ext4 it is
[01:47] <nacc> PMantis13: if you have lots of large files (this is my historical kernel dev recollection), XFS can be a lot more performant
[01:47] <nacc> PMantis13: but ext4 is probably fine for almost everyone
[01:48] <doge-doge> anyone here have issues with their Walgreens account? on Ubuntu. with the latest Firefox.
[01:48] <PMantis13> I'm a beginner, don't want to start messing with the very unknown, since everything else is pretty unknown
[01:48] <nacc> PMantis13: ack, then use ext4
[01:48] <nacc> PMantis13: you can have a swap partition, but it's very workload specific if you'll even used it
[01:48] <nacc> *use
[01:49] <doomlord_> qtcreator in the ubuntu repositories - it's only version 3.5 ?
[01:51] <PMantis13> I made a swap with my RAM size
[01:51] <PMantis13> 8192mb
[01:51] <PMantis13> and root partition, the rest
[01:51] <PMantis13> around 232gb
[01:52] <PMantis13> installing the bootloader in this same disk
[01:52] <PMantis13> dunno if it will conflict with the bootloader that I had on my archlinux on the other disk
[01:59] <doomlord_> ubuntu 'unity' is going to be discontinued?
[02:00] <bazhang> doomlord_, in 18.04
[02:01] <skinnymg1> hola
[02:01] <doomlord_> they're moving to gnome-shell by default?
[02:02] <bazhang> doomlord_, thats a year away, whatever gnome is offering at that point
[02:03] <doomlord_> ok.  Last time I tried gnome-shell... i despised it,    I usually use XFCE these days, but should revise my choices i guess
[02:03] <bazhang> doomlord_, it's a year away, so not really topical here, you could join the gnome channel, and their mailing lists
[02:04] <k_sze> Could somebody explain why somebody would recommend installing libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-vivid on 14.04 Trusty?
[02:05] <nacc> k_sze: whoever is recommending that should not be
[02:05] <bazhang> k_sze, that recommendation was made in error then
[02:05] <nacc> k_sze: you maybe want libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial if you want the 14.04.5 hwe stack
[02:06] <nacc> k_sze: but you do not want to install the 14.04.3 stack (it's no longer supported)
[02:06] <nacc> !hwe | k_sze: see the graphs here
[02:06] <Jordan_U> k_sze: What problem are you trying to solve?
[02:08] <k_sze> Jordan_U: I'm playing with libfreenect2 (https://github.com/OpenKinect/libfreenect2/), on both Intel x64 and Arm v7l platforms, running Trusty 14.04
[02:08] <shurtugal> anyone know how to install cairo dock on ubuntu mate 17.04
[02:08] <k_sze> And the installation instructions say to install libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-vivid
[02:08] <k_sze> so I'm wondering why.
[02:10] <Jordan_U> k_sze: it might need a newer libgl, and the instructions may have been written before libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial existed (and before libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-vivid stopped being supported).
[02:11] <k_sze> I see.
[02:11] <nacc> k_sze: because like many open source project, their docs are out of date, probably
[02:11] <nacc> note also
[02:11] <nacc> !info freenect trusty | k_sze
[02:12] <Bashing-om> !vivid | k_sze
[02:12] <k_sze> nacc: that's the *old* freenect
[02:12] <k_sze> !info freenect2
[02:12] <k_sze> !info libfreenect2
[02:12] <k_sze> bleh
[02:12] <nacc> k_sze: i see
[02:14] <nacc> k_sze: it would appear that debian's watch file is out of date: https://packages.qa.debian.org/libf/libfreenect.html
[02:15] <thingfish> I don't get it.  My connection to freenode times out about every hour.  Lots of times I get a broken pipe message from Pidgin.  This doesn't happen in Windows.  It doesn't even happen when I have Ubuntu in a VM in Windows - just when I boot to Ubuntu on metal.
[02:15] <thingfish> is this common?  I hope.
[02:17] <Jordan_U> thingfish: If you leave "ping irc.freenode.net" running does it ever start having issues? (For a better test you would ping the exact server that your IRC client ends up connecting to).
[02:17] <k_sze> nacc: libfreenect and libfreenect2 are two completely different beasts. The former was written for Kinect v1, the latter for Kinect v2. libfreenect2 is not compatible and does not replace libfreenect in any way.
[02:17] <thingfish> Jordan_U: good idea - I'll check that out.
[02:18] <thingfish> thanks
[02:18] <nacc> k_sze: ok, good luck then
[02:18] <k_sze> nacc: but in general, I really shouldn't install something like `libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-vivid` stand-alone, right?
[02:19] <k_sze> I should install the whole HWE?
[02:19] <nacc> k_sze: you shouldn't install such a package anymore
[02:19] <nacc> k_sze: that's totally up to you
[02:19] <segersjerry> ubuntu gnome 17.04 here, I want to make the screen warmer all the time, but under the color control panel there is no add profile button like the help screen says to use. What am I doing wrong?
[02:25] <segersjerry> nevermind, I deleted the default profile and it gave me an add button :)
[02:31] <auzty> hello, im new on ubuntu, how i can determine heavy load or not ? i have 1 core , free memory still 500Mb , but cpu usage on 1,5,15 is 14.06,14.91,15.29
[02:33] <wedgie> auzty: that seems a bit much. What are you running on it?
[02:35] <Bashing-om> auzty: The tool top to know the system loads : http://tecadmin.net/understanding-linux-top-command-results-uses/# .
[02:37] <auzty> i research glusterfs wedgie :D , and it's heavy i think, it's seems i need more resource right?
[02:38] <wedgie> auzty: the load averages aren't everything, but in general you don't want to see more than the number of cores you have for an extended period of time. But this varys by what the actual workload
[02:39] <wedgie> something like vmstat can give you a better idea of what resouces are actually being used (lets you tell if your problem is memory, cpu usage, disk io, and so on)
[03:03] <Guest8738> hello! I made a wrong quota for a user, the user had the same GUID as a group, and thus is now called the group name and has the group homedir. how do I completly erase a user from quota? :)
[03:09] <taller> hello friends !
[03:10] <guest_Newbie> Would someone assist me in installing Davinci Resolve.
[03:10] <guest_Newbie> ?
[03:11] <auzty> thanks for help wedgie, seems my CPU are heavy on vmstat, almost no idle time (id) and many time spent waiting (wa) , example my output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/24451943/
[03:25] <mjrosenb> I just installed 17.04-gnome on my laptop, and hibernate doesn't work.  when I run pm-hibernate, it just returns immediately, and doesn't even attempt to hibernate
[03:25] <mjrosenb> any idea what could be wrong?
[03:26] <mjrosenb> and nothing is printed in dmesg when I run pm-suspend
[03:40] <ZJAY> is there a browser for ubuntu that will still or now play flash sites like hbogo.com showtime etc....????
[03:48] <xtpeeps> firefox
[03:52] <guest_Newbie> Am needing some HELP PLEASE. https://pastebin.com/raw/SR8xVnKq
[03:55] <Ben64> guest_Newbie: why are you linking stuff?
[04:07] <pynki> hi, is there a list somewhere what the tasksel option in a server install include?
[04:08] <pynki> options*
[04:09] <ubni> anyone code in python here?
[04:10] <pynki> what do you need? pm, thats not the right place here to discuss python issues
[04:11] <ubni> I am sorry,but I tried python and learn programming and got nothing. Also was wondering if setsocketopt is unix specific or is just a generalcommand.
[04:11] <ubni> Because I had two tutorials and one had it the other didn't. THe only difference was Windows VS linux.
[04:12] <pynki> Many constants of these forms, documented in the Unix documentation on sockets and/or the IP protocol, are also defined in the socket module. They are generally used in arguments to the setsockopt() and getsockopt() methods of socket objects. In most cases, only those symbols that are defined in the Unix header files are defined; for a few symbols, default values are provided.
[04:13] <pynki> but honestly - do not discuss python issues here please. some would consider it spam
[04:14] <pynki> https://docs.python.org/2/library/socket.html states that it implements the BSD socket interface. first setence. so its bound to implementations of that interface. doubt that windows implements that
[04:14] <ubni> ok
[04:15] <ubni> That is what I figured. At the moment I amusing Windows, but I was implementing SSL and realized the setsocketopt was put in there.
[04:15] <ubni> I appreciate it
[04:15] <ubni> I tried to google and such, and the only clueI got was in the book where is said POSIX
[04:15] <ubni> so I assumed
[04:16] <guest_Newbie> Ben64: Because I was told before to use pastebin and I was trying to do that...
[04:16] <pynki> bookmark the documentation... ubni
[04:17] <ubni> Will do.
[04:17] <pynki> and stay away from "implementing ssl" - there are libs out there that are well proven to be kinda secure - you will not beat that ;) if its for fun and learning make sure you never conenct that software to the internet
[04:18] <guest_Newbie> Ben64: I need help understanding why I couldn't install the program and tried to pastebin what I did.
[04:18] <CarlFK> I am looking for what I am guessing is called grub-net - the bios boot version of http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/zesty/main/uefi/grub2-amd64/current/grubnetx64.efi
[04:18] <ubni> I was worried about the SSL library built in
[04:19] <ubni> I heard mixed reviews, and I did not know if it broke all of it, or just openSSL
[04:20] <pynki> compile tha latest version of opensll yourself, link everything else against it and you will be finde - if you are really worried. otherwise stay with what ubuntu gives you - should be secure enough to keep the russians/chinese.north koreans/whatever scammers/hackers/ransomware-dudes away
[04:21] <pynki> if you need to worry about the nsa and stuff - your fucked...
[04:21] <ubni> true. Do you think PGP is NSA proof?
[04:21] <ubni> For the most part?
[04:21] <ubni> I have not heard anything about PGP, and OTR seems to have eluded them.
[04:22] <pynki> who knows what kind of quantum-deeplearning-bigdata thing they have going on deep below the desert...
[04:22] <ubni> True.
[04:22] <ubni> I know nothing is for certain.
[04:22] <ubni> I just want to know what my best odds are.
[04:23] <pynki> the protocol will not be the attacked point. they will attack the device to get the decrypted data for free. and there are plenty of things to attackl on any device. and who knows what kind of hardware-fuckery the chinese deliver when you buy a "insert every chip here"
[04:23] <ubni> lol
[04:23] <ubni> true.
[04:24] <ubni> I was thinking about implementing PGP for some software in the future, but it seems like many of the libs are only for linux.
[04:24] <ubni> or mac.
[04:25] <ubni> Which might be a pain if I wanted mass adoption.
[04:25] <pynki> perhaps you read the story about one of the shadowsocks devs? chinese officials just showed up to his house and talked to him and he was done with doing shadowsocks ;)
[04:25] <ubni> wow
[04:27] <guest_Newbie> Ben64: I see now I used the wrong pastebin...
[04:27] <guest_Newbie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452277/plain/
[04:28] <ubni> Found the library. I was worried because in php pgp is only available for linux and mac.
[04:28] <guest_Newbie> Could use some help understanding my mistake, please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452277/plain/
[04:28] <ubni> Which sucks because I want to make a web interface for this idea.
[04:33] <pynki> guest_Newbie, is there an option to make that paste public? i only see a login page of a service i do not want to register with
[04:49] <casawi> come installare kodi 17 su debian
[04:51] <pynki> casawi, first: english here, second: ubuntu questions, and finally: this package
[04:51] <pynki> https://packages.debian.org/sid/video/kodi
[04:52] <pynki> casawi, see this for ubuntu http://www.infoworld.com/article/3167532/linux/linux-how-to-install-kodi-17.html
[04:53] <casawi> pynki scaricato packages come install
[04:55] <pynki> apt-get install packageName
[04:55] <pynki> if that was the question...jsut guessing
[04:55] <casawi> open terminal sudo apt-get packages
[04:57] <guest_Newbie> pynki: I don't know...I followed the link above http://paste.ubuntu.com/ problem #1 I am a newbie.
[04:59] <casawi> ./kodi_17.1+dfsg1-2_amd64.deb: 2: ./kodi_17.1+dfsg1-2_amd64.deb: Syntax error: newline unexpected
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:06] <pynki> moin moin
[05:09] <kasper> Is there any way to prevent ubuntu from triggering keyboard shortcuts when using fullscreen applications?
[05:10] <kasper> or should I say, prevent ubuntu from listening for those shortcuts?
[05:11] <YankDownUnder> kasper: It would be dependent on the DE/WM you're using, really...generally...
[05:13] <kasper> That doesn't help...Ubuntu 16.04 so that'd be, what, X window manager with all that unity stuff on top of it.
[05:14] <igsen> Where does firefox temporarily save the buffered cache of youtube?
[05:18] <kasper> So...no one knows how to get Ubuntu to stop listening for keyboard shortcuts when fullscreen apps take over?
[05:18] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Yes. What "Desktop" are you using?
[05:19] <YankDownUnder> Bear in mind that even though there are heaps of folks IN this channel, patience is important.
[05:19] <kasper> Unity. And I understand that but it's hard to be patient with over 1000 people here...
[05:19] <kasper> I ban idlers in my channels. *shrug*
[05:20] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Right. Unity. So you'd have to change the attributes of the "window" that the program starts in. Actually, that would be regardless of "window manager" or "desktop".
[05:20] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Since this channel has existed for quite a few years, maybe you should advise Canonical of that information pertaining to banning idle users.
[05:21] <kasper> If I thought they'd listen...lol. Anyway, so is this something I'll have to do for every program I don't want ubuntu hijacking the shortcuts for?
[05:22] <kasper> OR rather, probably untiy's doing the hijacking...but either way...
[05:22] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Again, if you're only using Unity, you'd be working out how the "launchers" launch the programs - there *should* be a means by which to change those advanced settings (as with most other window managers)
[05:22] <YankDownUnder> Unity would be doing it (or the window mangler that Unity uses)
[05:22] <kasper> ...so you don't know the specifics?
[05:23] <EKaa> hi
[05:23] <LibertyWeNeed> I am still having trouble with the screen flickering on my moms new ThinkPad T460 . How do I fix this? Is this something to do with the kernel? I need everything to work, because otherwise I will have to put windows 10 (which i really don't want to) on her computer so it is working. Please help.
[05:24] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Personally, I despised Unity from the day it was brought out. So I can't be of help in anything other than what I have stated. I'd suggest digging through the forums/wikis
[05:24] <kasper> ugh...ok. Thanks for trying but I've been doing that for a week now. Maybe I'm not using the right queries or whatever...
[05:25] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Think of a query - and then RE-think the query - use different wordings, too...as well, if anyone has not advised you - you might want to install "unity-tweak-tool"...
[05:26] <kasper> I have it. There's nothing there of help.
[05:26] <kasper> Also toyed with CCSM and can find nothing that will help, short of permanently disabling the shortcuts...which is not an option.
[05:26] <YankDownUnder> kasper: So, just for giggles and grins, you HAVE looked at the settings for the launcher(s) for the programs you're running, yes?
[05:27] <alvaro> hola
[05:27] <kasper> I -THINK- so. If by that you mean I checked the launcher properties via alacarte.
[05:27] <alvaro> mexico
[05:27] <hateball> !mx | alvaro
[05:27] <hateball> hmm
[05:28] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Yeah...that'd be it.
[05:28] <alvaro> hola hatabel
[05:28] <YankDownUnder> !ubuntu-es
[05:28] <kasper> Yeah, I'm not about to go raw editing .desktop files...
[05:28] <hateball> !es
[05:28] <kasper> Unless I have to.
[05:29] <YankDownUnder> kasper: They're merely text files.
[05:29] <kasper> So is a .jpg when you open it in gedit. Doesn't mean I understand the text. lol
[05:31] <kasper> Anyway, there's nothing there that even begins to look like it would be helpful to me. Bear in mind I'm kind of a linux idiot still, so if it's not a check box that says "Disable keyboard shortcuts" i probably wouldn't recognize it as helpful.
[05:31] <YankDownUnder> Oddly enough, a textfile - like the .desktop files - aren't graphics, nor in hex or binary.
[05:31] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Forums and wikis and Google, my friend...
[05:32] <kasper> No...I'm afraid I simply won't do that any longer. If it really comes to that, I'll just distro hop till I find one that behaves the way it should.
[05:32] <kasper> :\
[05:32] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Isn't it easier to just install another window manager/desktop? (like minutes instead of DAYS)
[05:32] <alvaro> como me cambio de canal?
[05:33] <YankDownUnder> alvaro: Hablamos ingles en aqui...
[05:33] <kasper> Possibly...might be worth a try. Though a new OS is only minutes away, really. lol
[05:34] <alvaro> si   ya me di cuenta
[05:34] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Your choice, your dime.
[05:34] <alvaro> pero como le hago para entrar a un canal en espanol?
[05:34] <YankDownUnder> alvaro: #ubuntu-es esta para Espanol
[05:34] <pynki> is the minimal cd missing anyuthing i would need to run the ubuntu in a hyper-v vm?
[05:34] <alvaro> gracias
[05:35] <YankDownUnder> alvaro: de nada, amigo
[05:35] <kasper> Worst part is...I'm not even entirely sure shortcuts are my problem. lol
[05:36] <YankDownUnder> kasper: What are you trying to run - the app - that's giving you issues...?
[05:36] <kasper> Long story short: I run xonotic, my mouse moves like side to side, but I get moments where the buttons don't respond until I double-click. Almost as if I have to refocus on the xonotic window.
[05:36] <kasper> Game is fullscreen though and it only seems to happen when I have desktop cube set to trigger with the mouse.
[05:37] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Um...Xonotic?
[05:37] <theyesmen> xonotic is a game
[05:37] <kasper> xonotic. The freeware fork from Nexuiz, a gorgeous shooter.
[05:37] <YankDownUnder> AH...a game...right...does it make money or is it used for running a biz?
[05:37] <theyesmen> wtf
[05:38] <LibertyWeNeed> Does Ubuntu have updated drivers for Intel HD Graphics 520 ?
[05:38] <LibertyWeNeed> How do I check and install?
[05:38] <kasper> I use it as a demonstration piece, actually. So in a way it helps my business. Not that I see how it matters one way or another.
[05:38] <YankDownUnder> LibertyWeNeed: Have you checked the website for the release you have?
[05:38] <LibertyWeNeed> I don't know how and what I am suppose to look for.
[05:39] <YankDownUnder> kasper: So here's a question for ya - because I've run "full screen" stuff AND used compiz with all the bells and whistles... - have you done an "exlusion" of the key mappings for that particular program in ccsm?
[05:40] <absolutly_cluele> Hello! Trying to set up localhost mailserver (school project), I followed this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-a-mail-server-using-postfix-dovecot-mysql-and-spamassassin but when trying to access the accounts with SquirrelMail I get a " 111 : Connection refused" error, any hints? :)
[05:40] <kasper> That would be a negative since I am unaware of exactly how one would do such a thing.
[05:42] <YankDownUnder> kasper: (Last time I used it) - there was a means by which to exclude - in "General" and also in the "Extras" section of CCSM...however, that was last year...things may have changed...but I excluded a particular program that I ran in full-screen so that I could still use the cube/desk...that being said, if you really want to play the game, couldn't you merely disable the cube until you're done playing the game?
[05:43] <YankDownUnder> kasper: It was under "window management"...yeah...now I remember-er-er
[05:43] <kasper> No such setting now...nor can I find the old keybinding to toggle desktop effects globally (Used to be shift+f12, I believe) And yes I can...but that isn't exactly an effective demonstration of Ubuntu eye candy. lol
[05:45] <YankDownUnder> kasper: "Enable Legacy Support" => in ccsm
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> absolutly_cluele: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might point you in right direction?
[05:45] <kasper> "Legacy Fullscreen SUpport"? Under workarounds?
[05:45] <YankDownUnder> kasper: Or rather "Enable Legacy Fullscreen Support" - sorry...
[05:46] <YankDownUnder> Either which, time for tea (dinner) for me. Ciao!
[05:46] <kasper> Thanks for the assist. I need to go troubleshoot anyway.
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> LibertyWeNeed: sudo lshw -C video behind driver= shows your version
[06:07] <kpc> hello how can i ignore a dependacy for ./configure
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> kpc: can you explain us the whole story? ubuntu version? what are you trying to do?
[06:08] <kpc> ubuntu 16.04 im trying to compile a playstation emulator and its hangs on libnautilus-burn, the documentation says its optional but i cant get past it
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> kpc: there are few playstation emulators in the repos, why are you trying to compile?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !info pcsxr | kpc
[06:11] <kpc> thats the one im trying to make
[06:11] <RonaldScottFromT> Hello this is Ronald Scott with the CIA's Division of Cyber Crimes, we were tipped about a rogue botnet via our own IRC servers.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> kpc: you can just sudo apt install pcsxr if you want
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> RonaldScottFromT: you joined the ubuntu support channel here
[06:12] <hateball> !compile | kpc
[06:12] <RonaldScottFromT> Yes we were tipped about a rogue botnet here
[06:13] <kpc> i dont think a real cia agent would identify himself in a irc channel
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> RonaldScottFromT: this is not the place for such questions
[06:13] <kpc> >:-)
[06:13] <ilzolende> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone doesn't seem to give much photo importing advice
[06:13] <RonaldScottFromT> We are here to investigate your freenode channel
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !ops | RonaldScottFromT
[06:14] <RonaldScottFromT> My superiors and I have agreed to come back tomorrow
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:14] <jink> :')
[06:15] <ilzolende> hey so can i pester people about photo importing again now?
[06:16] <jink> Not unless you're from the CIA.
[06:16] <ilzolende> it shows up as a camera and it shows me image previews in shotwell but then it fails to import the images
[06:16] <ilzolende> saying stuff like
[06:16] <ilzolende> Photos/Videos Not Imported Due to Camera Errors:
[06:16] <ilzolende> IMG_1521.JPG
[06:16] <ilzolende> 	error message: [-107] Error retrieving file object for /DCIM/101APPLE/IMG_1521.JPG: Unknown error
[06:16] <ilzolende> for every single photo
[06:17] <kpc> that emulator just crashes when i try to load iso's
[06:17] <kpc> i have pSX im trying to compile, is their a way to skip dependantcy
[06:17] <jink> ilzolende: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1178256 ?
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> kpc: if you find a bug in a package please create a new !bug
[06:18] <ilzolende> i'm fine with using a non-shotwell program
[06:18] <ilzolende> also i can't navigate to the dcim folder
[06:18] <ilzolende> i get to gphoto2://[usb:001,006]/ and try to open store_00010001
[06:19] <ilzolende> and it says "Failed to get folder list: -1: Unspecified error."
[06:19] <ilzolende> i mean i get photos off of my android by copying them off of the dcim folder, but idk how to get to the dcim folder here
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !iphone | ilzolende
[06:20] <ilzolende> aha, thanks
[06:20] <kpc> how can i find the folder it installed to?
[06:20] <kpc> says i may need a bios file in the folder
[06:20] <ilzolende> ...this article doesn't mention photos at all
[06:21] <ilzolende> libimobiledevice doesn't seem to exist?
[06:23] <nussbaumer> wow
[06:23] <nussbaumer> hi
[06:24] <ilzolende> ok, libimobiledevice is on github but not on apt
[06:26] <pynki> ilzolende, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/libimobiledevice
[06:28] <xangua> ilzolende: libimobiledevice has been preinstalled in Ubuntu since 10.04
[06:28] <ilzolende> ...huh, okay
[06:28] <ilzolende> whoops
[06:31] <lamp> does anyone else have problems will fullscreen in ubuntu 17.04
[06:31] <xangua> !details
[06:31] <k_sze[work]> Was runlevel still a thing in 14.04?
[06:32] <lamp> i know i just started
[06:32] <lamp> whenever i use fullscreen i get stuck with bugs
[06:32] <lamp> like in minecraft, if i'm in fullscreen and then some other app opens causing it to minimize, i'm stuck with my cursor controlling minecraft but keyboard controlling os
[06:33] <lamp> and in youtube in chrome, when I exited fullscreen the system froze up
[06:33] <lamp> also with minecraft it resets my color profile; overall just any use of fullscreen is buggy
[06:34] <lamp> is it just me or is this just some bugs in 17.04 that are going to be fixed soon?
[06:34] <Ben64> what video card(s)/driver(s)
[06:34] <lamp> nvidia geforce 9600m gt with proprietary nvidia drivers
[06:35] <Ben64> so, optimus system?
[06:36] <lamp> i don't think so... i don't know what "optimus" is
[06:40] <PhilippeVienne> Hi, how a NFS server shutdown and recover is managed on NFS mount ? Should I remount all mounts made ?
[06:41] <k_sze[work]> Where is screen sleep controlled if I disable lightdm?
[06:44] <hailhydra> I need help getting an audio device working
[06:45] <Ben64> lamp: its the type of system with dual gpus
[06:45] <lamp> oh; yeah, I have a macbook pro with two GPUs; an integrated GeForce 9400m and a discrete/dedicated GeForce 9600m GT
[06:46] <Ben64> i bet that's very related to the problem
[06:46] <shpx> is there a way to `apt install` cuda for tensorflow? All google search results I can find talk about downloading binaries from nvidia. Then what's http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libcuda1-375
[06:47] <shpx> https://askubuntu.com/questions/799184/how-can-i-install-cuda-on-ubuntu-16-04
[06:48] <Ben64> shpx: yeah you can use apt, dunno what tensorflow is though
[06:48] <lamp> hmm, is it possible to completely disable a gpu? (probably not...) the 9400m isn't used at all and just reserves some of my memory.
[06:49] <Ben64> you gotta check the bios for that
[06:49] <Ben64> there probably is a way to do it in software, but i don't know it :)
[06:50] <rishiraj> any thing about bit coin
[06:50] <rishiraj> ?????
[06:50] <lamp> hmm ok
[06:56] <Jasminder> hi guys
[06:57] <Jasminder> I would like to setup a tiny ubuntu server to host a coin mining project
[06:57] <Ben64> go for it
[06:57] <Jasminder> I downloaded the ubuntu server 17.04 and let it setup under vmware workstation pro
[06:58] <Jasminder> I never got any education on linux so I'm not sure where to begin, in order to learn this as quickly and efficiently as possible.
[06:58] <Jasminder> I've been on Windows Since Windows 3.1
[06:59] <Jasminder> It would mean a lot to me if someone could help me setup this vm.
[06:59] <Ben64> you gotta ask a question that could actually be answered
[07:00] <Jasminder> I'm a truck driver / novice computer user and windows user mainly.
[07:00] <Jasminder> well moderately okay, not novice
[07:01] <Jasminder> yes I will ask some questions soon. I'm just booting up vmware now.
[07:01] <Jasminder> if you want to watch you can view the machine with vnc
[07:02] <nha> Asking a question from yesterday again: something is setting LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 in my desktop session, possibly because I once logged in with a broken GL stack. How do I unset it? (this is on 17.04, fwiw)
[07:04] <Jasminder> What is the minimum amount of ram to run ubuntu server?
[07:04] <EriC^^> !requirements
[07:09] <AlkindiX> Hello Geeks: I previously installed Plasma KDE in my Ubuntu, then I uninstalled it, after that I tried to install sqlitebrowser , it says unmet dependencies. When I tried with aptitude . It says that I have to downgrade almost all Qt 5 packages, can I trust aptitude to do that?! I need help
[07:09] <ducasse> AlkindiX: did you add a ppa to install plasma?
[07:09] <Ben64> AlkindiX: how are you installing and uninstalling these things
[07:10] <amazecpk> Hello, I can only get one monitor to show an image on a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 (not in a virtual machine) How can I go about getting my 2 other monitors to display anything?
[07:11] <ayrus> Hi, canonical live patch is installed with valid key, kernel is automatically downloaded 4.4.0-75-generic but not patched by canonical. Still showing kernel "4.4.0-72-generic" what I
[07:11] <ayrus> what I'm doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452793/
[07:12] <AlkindiX> Ben64: I thought Plasma 5 was a good to try. I realize that Plasma is a memory and CPU hanger. Then I uninstalled it
[07:12] <Ben64> doesn't really answer the question
[07:13] <Jasminder> so 256mb of ram and 1.5gb of disk space
[07:13] <Ben64> you'll probably want more than that
[07:13] <Jasminder> @ben64 I set it to 512 and 20gb
[07:16] <amazecpk> help with monitor situation?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | amazecpk
[07:18] <sebsebseb> hi
[07:18] <sebsebseb> Jebbe: en svensk
[07:20] <amazecpk> thanks lotuspsychje, I'll look into that
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> amazecpk: plugin both screens and try xrandr --auto
[07:23] <amazecpk> lotuspsychje, I have all three plugged in to my nvidia gpu. I ran the command you gave me, but nothing has happened yet, do I need to reboot?
[07:23] <Ben64> amazecpk: what gpu, what driver, what is the output of "xrandr" and can you configure them using nvidia-settings
[07:25] <amazecpk> gtx 970, driver selected now is : X.org Nouveau driver, here is the output: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/aad3c65b4a39613f0253bdf054a35971
[07:26] <Ben64> you'll probably want to use the nvidia driver
[07:26] <kristhian> how do i install screen in ubuntu?
[07:26] <amazecpk> alright, let me install the latest one
[07:26] <Ben64> kristhian: sudo apt install screen
[07:26] <amazecpk> open source or propietary?
[07:26] <Ben64> amazecpk: use the additional driver thing in ubuntu, don't go to nvidia.com
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> kristhian: sudo apt install screen
[07:26] <Ben64> amazecpk: the proprietary one, should be like nvidia-340 or something like that
[07:27] <amazecpk> Alright, trying it out now.
[07:28] <ayrus> Hi, canonical live patch is installed with valid key, kernel is automatically downloaded 4.4.0-75-generic but not patched by canonical. Still showing kernel "4.4.0-72-generic" what I'm doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452793/ please help
[07:28] <Jasminder> is anyone here using ubuntu to mine coins?
[07:29] <kristhian> E: Unable to locate package screen
[07:29] <kristhian> http://termbin.com/8lgn
[07:29] <kristhian> unable to locate package screen?
[07:29] <kristhian> sudo apt-get update first?
[07:29] <kristhian> then sudo apt-get upgrade?
[07:29] <Ben64> kristhian: who knows, you pasted basically nothing
[07:30] <amazecpk> Alright, changed drivers to nvidia propietary, no changes yet, going to try a reboot
[07:30] <kristhian> E: Unable to locate package screen
[07:31] <kristhian> that is the last line
[07:31] <Ben64> kristhian: pastebin the output of "sudo apt update"
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> kristhian: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[07:32] <jink> Any thoughts on https://github.com/google/google-authenticator-libpam ?
[07:32] <amazecpk> Alright, got two monitors to show up. still missing the middle one though.
[07:32] <amazecpk> ahh should make sure that middle one is plugged in all the way next time
[07:32] <kristhian> i think it is 14.04
[07:32] <amazecpk> thanks guys. :)
[07:32] <kristhian> and i also forgot how to check it on the command line
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> jink: this channel isnt for polls & opinions
[07:32] <ayrus> kristhian: "lsb_release -a" output
[07:33] <kristhian> ok\
[07:33] <jink> lotuspsychje: Although that's probably true, this is my best bet for users of the module on Ubuntu.
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | jink
[07:34] <kristhian> actually it is 16.04.1 LTS
[07:34] <kristhian> http://termbin.com/e3np
[07:34] <jink> lotuspsychje: Thanks.
[07:34] <Ben64> kristhian: pastebin the output of "sudo apt update"
[07:34] <XAlkindiX> alkindix
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> kristhian: 16.04.1 is outdated, update asap to .2
[07:35] <kristhian> Ben64: ok
[07:35] <kristhian> wait
[07:35] <kristhian> lotuspsychje: ok
[07:37] <kristhian> http://termbin.com/tnq7
[07:37] <kristhian> Ben64: wait
[07:37] <kristhian> ill just paste it on pastebin instead
[07:38] <kristhian> termbin doesn't show all of the content
[07:38] <kristhian> sorry
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> kristhian: try hastebin, its pretty nice
[07:41] <kristhian> https://pastebin.com/Gp7KY8R3
[07:41] <kristhian> lotuspsychje:
[07:41] <kristhian> ok
[07:41] <kristhian> lotuspsychje: next time
[07:41] <kristhian> Ben64: https://pastebin.com/Gp7KY8R3
[07:42] <Ben64> kristhian: ok now "apt-cache policy screen"
[07:42] <kristhian> ok
[07:42] <cjmeyer96> Hi guys my bluetooth mouse clicks only work on certain parts of chrome, e.g. clicking New Tab or clicking within a page, but I can't use it to select another tab
[07:44] <cjmeyer96> My touchpad works correctly
[07:45] <kristhian> Ben64: https://pastebin.com/nyhzwD3N
[07:46] <kristhian> maybe i should update ubuntu 16.04.2
[07:46] <kristhian> i think
[07:46] <Ben64> kristhian: well screen is right there, you must have typed it wrong
[07:46] <kristhian> Ben64:
[07:46] <kristhian> check
[07:46] <kristhian> screen
[07:46] <kristhian> The program 'screen' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[07:46] <kristhian> sudo apt install screen
[07:47] <kristhian> ah ok
[07:47] <kristhian> yes
[07:47] <Ben64> ...
[07:47] <kristhian> i think i typed it wrong
[07:47] <kristhian> now it's working
[07:47] <kristhian> anyways, brb
[07:54] <mynameistrevor> hello
[07:55] <mynameistrevor> it seems that ph.archive.ubuntu.com is temporarily down
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> mynameistrevor: join #ubuntu-mirrors for known repo issues plz
[07:57] <mynameistrevor> thanks
[07:57] <linuxthefish> hi, i have a network configured in the interfaces file but it's not coming up on boot, any ideas? when i type "ifup ens18", it brings it up but with the error "RTNETLINK answers: File exists" and "Failed to bring up ens18." even though it brings it online!
[07:57] <DadoDado> !list
[07:57] <jacks_> hello, anyone here know of a tool i can use to monitor logs in realtime for a specific pre-defined set of text/patterns and run custom commands once found?
[07:58] <ducasse> linuxthefish: can you pastebin the interfaces file?
[08:00] <ducasse> jacks_: fail2ban does basically that, and you can define your own patterns and actions iirc
[08:00] <linuxthefish> ducasse, http://paste.debian.net/929208
[08:01] <DadoDado> ciao
[08:01] <DadoDado> !list
[08:02] <DadoDado> !list
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> !warez | DadoDado
[08:02] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: add 'auto ens18' above the ens18 stanza
[08:02] <ducasse> linuxthefish: ^^
[08:03] <octo8> Hello, i'm using the command 'locate' to find a folder called 'xyz' , how to use it to prevent it from showing files the has 'xyz' in it, i only want folders.
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> octo8: perhaps try the whereis command?
[08:03] <linuxthefish> ah whoops, thanks so much ducasse all works now! :D
[08:03] <ducasse> linuxthefish: np
[08:04] <live123> hello, when I click on reload icon in Synaptic Package Manager, I am getting this error. Please help me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452921/
[08:04] <ducasse> octo8: use find instead, with -type d
[08:04] <live123> hello.. any solutions?
[08:04] <octo8> ducasse: find takes long ages :(
[08:05] <ducasse> octo8: well, locate does not do what you want
[08:06] <live123> hello..
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> !patience | live123
[08:06] <live123> lotuspsychje, ok. sorry..
[08:07] <live123> lotuspsychje: will wait.
[08:09] <anonymous> wget
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> live123: did you add ppa's of any kind to your system?
[08:09] <steven> curl
[08:09] <Guest63713> Hi!
[08:10] <live123> lotuspsychje: I don't remember adding anything manually. As far as I can remember, I installed some packages.
[08:10] <live123> lotuspsychje: I installed Opera and chrome browsers.
[08:11] <ducasse> live123: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:11] <steven> how can I kill s6-supervise?
[08:11] <steven> I can't find it anywhere
[08:12] <ducasse> !xy | steven
[08:13] <steven> I want to kill supervise
[08:13] <steven> :D
[08:14] <live123> ducasse: please could you provide the command that I need to use?
[08:15] <ducasse> live123: 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999'
[08:15] <Ben64> live123: cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:15] <Ben64> ducasse: gotta get .d/ too :D
[08:16] <ducasse> Ben64: i didn't need it rn ;)
[08:16] <steven> so I guess you won't tell me how to kill it then?
[08:17] <live123> ducasse: Ben64 ,http://termbin.com/bod3
[08:17] <ducasse> steven: to me that sounds more like a kernel thread than a process
[08:17] <live123> ducasse: http://termbin.com/bod3
[08:17] <live123> Ben64: http://termbin.com/bod3
[08:18] <steven> no s6-supervise is a supervisor, not a kernel module..
[08:18] <Ben64> steven: you haven't given nearly enough information for us to determine anything of what you're doing or what you want
[08:19] <steven> ok, I have a process (nginx) running. I want this process to be gone.
[08:19] <steven> like completely gone.
[08:19] <pynki_> like uninstalled gone?
[08:20] <ayrus> pynki_: :D
[08:20] <steven> systemctl stop nginx, stops  part of it. but supervise keeps another instance of it alive, if I kill the process it gets respawn by supervise
[08:20] <steven> not removed, just temporarly not running
[08:20] <Ben64> steven: where did you get this supervise
[08:21] <pynki_> sure that it is a standalone nginx? or some kind of boundled into something else-ginx
[08:21] <steven> ps aux | grep nginx Ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/24452964/
[08:21] <live123> Ben64: any possible solutions?
[08:23] <Ben64> steven: that doesn't come with ubuntu
[08:23] <pynki_> https://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-supervise.html Ben64
[08:23] <steven> I am pretty sure I didnt install it either Ben64 :D
[08:24] <Ben64> then time to format
[08:24] <live123> ducasse: how are you?
[08:25] <ducasse> live123: go into 'settings', 'software and updates' and look under 'software sources'. you should have more than one entry for google chrome and opera.
[08:26] <pynki_> steven, 's6-svc -q' does anything to the nginx process?
[08:26] <Hennakin> Hi there
[08:26] <pynki_> or -t
[08:26] <pynki_> or -p
[08:26] <steven> command not found :D
[08:26] <steven> I dont have any s6* commands installed
[08:26] <ele99> elisa
[08:26] <pynki_> https://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-svc.html
[08:26] <steven> or available
[08:26] <pynki_> -d seems to be what you need :P
[08:27] <ducasse> steven: where does it come from if you didn't install it, then? :)
[08:27] <linuxthefish> why doesn't grub show up anymore?
[08:27] <linuxthefish> well, compared to old versions
[08:28] <steven> very good question, ducasse. maybe so it runs as my user, not root. maybe it's a dependency of something. I guess imma have to debug this a bit more
[08:28] <pynki_> steven - it might have the binaries in some wired place... install locate, run updatedb and then locate s6 or find it on another way
[08:28] <pynki_> s6-svc seems the binary you need
[08:28] <pynki_> -d : down. If the supervised process is up, send it a SIGTERM and a SIGCONT. Do not restart it.
[08:28] <Hennakin> I have a strange bug or have been hacked: In lightdm after starting my computer I need to push enter times after I entered the password.. after the first enter-press nothing - virtually nothing - happens... the hidden letters of the password still are there.. then i just need to push enter another time and lightdm logs me in and starts Unity.. is this a known issue? I cant find anything on launchp
[08:28] <linuxthefish> i mean i got it back, but it seems strange hiding grub
[08:28] <Hennakin> launchpad
[08:29] <Hennakin> i mean i need to push enter two times
[08:29] <steven> I did do that pynki_ .. and the result is a but messy but I saw something that could be the cause of this. but imma have to figure it out first
[08:29] <Ben64> linuxthefish: because it's not needed usually
[08:31] <ducasse> linuxthefish: you should be able to get the grub menu if you hold left shift or escape on boot.
[08:33] <live123> ducasse: yes. there are two entries for chrome.
[08:34] <ducasse> live123: delete one of them.
[08:35] <steven> only docker stuff uses it pynki_ ..
[08:36] <steven> does ps list docker processes?
[08:36] <steven> cos I don't think it does.
[08:36] <linuxthefish> argh and no rc.local in this new ubuntu, everything has changed from when i used it in 2011!
[08:36] <live123> ducasse: I unchecked one. I got this error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24453006/
[08:36] <pynki_> linuxthefish, creating ti might work?!?!?
[08:36] <linuxthefish> pynki_ on systemctl debian i can enable the rc-local service but it seems to have hone
[08:38] <live123> ducasse: what could be the reason for this error?
[08:39] <ducasse> live123: 'apt update | nc termbin.com 9999'
[08:40] <pynki_> linuxthefish, i mean: create the /etc/rc.local file and see if it gets called
[08:40] <iuza> .
[08:41] <linuxthefish> nope pynki_
[08:41] <live123> ducasse: again, I got this error.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24453023/
[08:41] <dddd> hola
[08:42] <dddd> help?
[08:42] <dddd> please?
[08:42] <pratyush> Whats the issue?
[08:42] <pynki_> dddd, problem? please?
[08:42] <linuxthefish> ah nvm i'll try see if init scripts still work
[08:42] <ele99> ciao!
[08:42] <ducasse> live123: sorry, 'sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999'
[08:43] <pynki_> linuxthefish, have a desktop? think somewhere there must be autostart programs... :/
[08:43] <ele99> !list
[08:43] <pratyush> linuxthefish whats wrong?
[08:43] <ele99> !list
[08:43] <dddd> On the terminal, it requires a password before any action is taken
[08:44] <linuxthefish> ele99 /list for a list of channels?
[08:44] <pynki_> dddd, using commands with "sudo" in it?
[08:44] <live123> ducasse: I got this error again.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24453032/
[08:44] <Winter_Foxo> I upgraded to ubuntu 17.04 today but every few hours my computer freezes and I have to reset. How do I go about fining the cause of this?
[08:44] <pratyush> Winter_Foxo logs?
[08:45] <Winter_Foxo> pratyush, I checked syslog but couldnt find much going on
[08:45] <Winter_Foxo> any other logs?
[08:46] <pynki_> Winter_Foxo, the machine gets hot?
[08:46] <ele99> ciao!
[08:46] <ele99> \list
[08:46] <ele99> !list
[08:46] <ducasse> live123: 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d | nc termbin.com 9999'
[08:46] <pratyush> Winter_Foxo Unity probably
[08:46] <pynki_> "/list"
[08:46] <Winter_Foxo> pynki_, doubt it, its a desktop. The display just freezes and eventually the audio cuts out too
[08:47] <hateball> !alis | ele99
[08:47] <dddd> come si può immettere una navigazione anonima?
[08:47] <live123> ducasse: http://termbin.com/ktgi
[08:48] <pynki_> Winter_Foxo, any obvious way to trigger it?
[08:48] <ducasse> live123: 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list | nc termbin.com 9999'
[08:49] <Winter_Foxo> pynki_, not that I can see
[08:50] <live123> ducasse: http://termbin.com/qgld
[08:50] <alance> Hello, I want to know how to fix the following problem: when started, the computer shows "failed to load kernel modules"
[08:52] <ducasse> live123: 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999'
[08:52] <ducasse> live123: we're almost done now
[08:52] <pynki_> can i source the /etc/enviroment fiel to get the vars in it available for the whole session?
[08:53] <live123> ducasse: http://termbin.com/g1pu
[08:54] <ducasse> live123: you see the bottom line in that last paste? remove it and save the file, and you should be done.
[08:54] <ducasse> live123: you need to do that as root
[08:55] <goten> hi?
[08:56] <live123> ducasse: http://termbin.com/99yx
[08:57] <ducasse> live123: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[08:58] <goten> can i be heard?
[08:58] <ducasse> live123: go down to the bottom, delete the last line.
[08:59] <live123> ducasse: # deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ zesty-updates universe  this one?
[08:59] <ducasse> live123: deb-src http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
[08:59] <live123> ok
[09:00] <live123> ducasse: then, what next/
[09:00] <live123> ?
[09:00] <ducasse> live123: then save the file with ctrl+o
[09:01] <ducasse> live123: and exit with ctrl+x
[09:01] <ducasse> live123: now you should be able to run 'sudo apt update' without errors
[09:02] <live123> ducasse: done. No errors now. thanks a lot.
[09:03] <live123> thank you for your help..
[09:04] <ducasse> live123: you're welcome :)
[09:04] <live123> ducasse: have a great day...bye..
[09:04] <ducasse> live123: you too
[09:05] <ubuntuer> hello
[09:06] <k_ubuntu_er> anyone here?
[09:07] <ppf> !ask
[09:10] <Hennakin> Why do I need to push "enter" twice after entering my password in lightdm to log on?
[09:13] <pynki> i have a wired issue:  service tomcat7 restart gives me:  * no JDK or JRE found - please set JAVA_HOME
[09:13] <pynki> but  dpkg-reconfigure tomcat7 gives me  * Starting Tomcat servlet engine tomcat7 [ OK ]. what could go wrong here that the service ... command does not work? ubuntu 14.04 64 server
[09:13] <pynki> printenv contains JAVA_HOME
[09:16] <mgor> pynki, which ubuntu version? if it uses systemd you might have to modify the unit file to use the environment variable, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User#Environment_variables
[09:16] <pynki> mgor 14.04
[09:16] <pynki> server
[09:17] <mgor> pynki, ah, so no systemd in other words
[09:17] <ayrus> pynki: which java ?
[09:18] <pynki> oracle 8, webudp8team ppa
[09:18] <mgor> pynki, seems like someone has had similar issues, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27457398/why-java-home-not-recognized-by-tomcat7-in-ubuntu. check the answer if it is applicable for you
[09:18] <pynki> thx mgor
[09:18] <mgor> pynki, actually, the there's one answer other than the accepted, meaning chaning /etc/default/tomcat7 to have JAVA_HOME set there
[09:20] <pynki> done @mgor, thanks
[09:28] <ThetaOrionis> Hey guys, after 17.04 MATE fresh install, my laptop is not connecting to the web on WiFi. I changed the Network manager.conf file to include wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no and it worked for a time, not it's not helping either
[09:29] <ThetaOrionis> Can this be due the DNS issue of Network manager I keep reading about?
[09:30] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: try pinging 8.8.8.8
[09:31] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Pinging works, but still no webpages on browser. :-(
[09:31] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: ok, then try 'host google.com'
[09:32] <ThetaOrionis> BTW I never had had a WiFi issue with Ubuntu on 16.10 or before.
[09:33] <ThetaOrionis> theoceaniscool: It worked again, showing the IP of Google.com and some other addresses
[09:33] <w9qbj> take a look at /etc/resolv.conf  it shold have some nameservers (like 8.8.8.8 or theip of your router)
[09:34] <ThetaOrionis> w9qbj: I opened it on pico, but the file is blank.
[09:34] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: open 'edit connections' from the nm applet
[09:35] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Ok, done
[09:35] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: select, your network
[09:35] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: then go to ipv4 settings, and fill in 8.8.8.8 in additional dns servers
[09:36] <ThetaOrionis> Ok
[09:37] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: then save and close
[09:37] <ThetaOrionis> BTW do I keep the 'additional search domains' blank?
[09:37] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: you don't need that
[09:38] <ThetaOrionis> Ok, saved. And I reconnected as well, still nothing. Lemme try restarting once
[09:39] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: 'sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager' should do it
[09:39] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: OK, I'm trying it and reporting back in a moment. :)
[09:40] <janisozaur> any volunteers to help with debian packaging for OpenRCT2? https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenRCT2
[09:42] <ducasse> janisozaur: offtopic here, i'm afraid
[09:42] <janisozaur> where then?
[09:43] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: No change. :-( I guess it's a driver issue, then
[09:43] <ducasse> janisozaur: maybe #ubuntu-offtopic, or one of the debian channels.
[09:45] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: i doubt that..
[09:46] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: BTW, now the ping 8.8.8.8 is running forever, instead of completing.
[09:46] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: just ctrl+c it
[09:46] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: it will never complete :)
[09:46] <ThetaOrionis> I see. :)
[09:46] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: and 'ping google.com' also works?
[09:47] <ThetaOrionis> Ok, it stopped, thanks ducasse. :-) However, the WiFi issue persists.
[09:47] <ThetaOrionis> Yeah,
[09:47] <ducasse> try 'sudo ufw status'
[09:48] <ThetaOrionis> active
[09:48] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: 'sudo ufw disable'
[09:49] <ducasse> now try your browser.
[09:50] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Still nothing, I'm afraid. :(
[09:50] <ducasse> which browser is this?
[09:50] <ThetaOrionis> I tried disabling the firewall previously, from the gufw GUI, even changing the profiles. Nothing worked.
[09:50] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: The default one, Firefox.
[09:51] <ducasse> have you set a proxy?
[09:51] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: BTW while installing from live USB, WiFi was acting normally, and all latest installer updates were installed.
[09:51] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: No, it's just a fresh install.
[09:52] <ducasse> does 'sudo apt update' also fail?
[09:52] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: However, I recall having some problems of this kind with my Windows 10 installations, where WiFi was shown to be 'Limited access' (no internet)
[09:53] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Yeah, nothing works from the CLI too. I tried installing acpi previously, and it failed to connect
[09:54] <ducasse> how is this connected? computer -> router -> modem?
[09:54] <ThetaOrionis> Till 17.04, everything was okay with the same hardware and same WiFi connection. Similar thing happened between Win 7 and Win 10 (7 worked fine, but 10 often showed problems of limited access)
[09:55] <janisozaur> ducasse: from my perspective "debian packaging" is the same as for ubuntu, hence why I asked here, nothing really debian-specific, perhaps I should've stated "deb packaging"
[09:56] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Umm, there's this adsl modem with Wlan. I don't have a separate router, I'm anraid.
[09:56] <ThetaOrionis> * afraid
[09:56] <janisozaur> on semi-related note: how could we get package pushed to ubuntu repositories?
[09:57] <ducasse> janisozaur: be a member of motu.
[09:57] <ducasse> janisozaur: try getting it included in the debian repos, and it will get synced on the next release.
[09:58] <janisozaur> from which one does ubuntu sync? sid?
[09:58] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: ok. is there a web interface on the modem you have access to?
[09:58] <ducasse> janisozaur: yes
[09:58] <janisozaur> thanks
[09:58] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Yes
[09:59] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: can you access it from the browser now?
[09:59] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Yesterday I resetted everything on the modem interface, and the Windows issue got solved but Ubuntu 17.04's issue remained
[09:59] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Yeah
[10:00] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: ok, then your problem is likely a setting in that interface, as traffic to the router seems ok, and you get pings in/out to the world.
[10:01] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: BTW to access it, I need to connect to the LAN. It doesn't work on WLAN (previously it used to).
[10:01] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Most probably. Lemme try fiddling a bit with the router, and I'll report back later.
[10:02] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Also, many thanks for your help. :-)
[10:02] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: ok, do that. you can also get help in ##networking for this.
[10:02] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: np :)
[10:03] <valleyofsun> server irc.torrentday.com
[10:06] <talin> hello. how can i make ubuntu mate use my local language for being displayed on webpages
[10:07] <talin> is there some locale setting somewhere? the OS menus are fine
[10:07] <talin> but webpages are being set to english for some reason
[10:07] <talin> like the buttons on facebook, that sort of thing
[10:07] <ducasse> talin: that's a browser setting, probably
[10:07] <cfhowlett> yep.  browser
[10:07] <valleyofsun> I would guess a laguage pack for the browser is all
[10:07] <talin> ah, thank you guys
[10:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:11] <kbob> Hey BluesKaj
[10:11] <BluesKaj> hi kbob
[10:12] <talin> strange, firefox has a general.useragent.locale which is set to nb-no
[10:13] <talin> and that's correct
[10:13] <talin> still pages are being displayed in english
[10:15] <ducasse> talin: go into preferences, and set the language under 'content'
[10:17] <talin> ducasse: in the browser?
[10:17] <ducasse> yes
[10:17] <talin> ducasse: ah, thank you. i will try that now
[10:33] <steven> another one, by default autremove keeps the last three kernels, can I change this (more like where can I change it) to keep only the last couple kernels?
[10:36] <ducasse> steven: it just keeps the last two here
[10:36] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: You there, mate?
[10:37] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: yes, but soon leaving
[10:37] <steven> last three for me ducasse .. maybe the configuration differs
[10:37] <steven> I am talking about server
[10:37] <ducasse> steven: so am i.
[10:38] <ducasse> steven: have you rebooted recently?
[10:38] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Well, the problem was due to DNSSEC, as detailed in this article http://www.hecticgeek.com/2017/04/ubuntu-17-04-systemd-dns-issues/
[10:39] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: interesting. i'll take a look at that later, thanks for reporting back :)
[10:39] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: I temporarily switched off systemd-resolved daemon, and all my network issues are gone. :) I'm updating the system now, since latest updates seem to have fixed the issue.
[10:39] <steven> I actually did just today because of another reason, but the kernel thingy was like that before. on my desktop tho it only keeps two kernels
[10:39] <steven> ducasse: what version runs on youor server, I assume 1604 lts?
[10:40] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: No, thank YOU, for helping me and giving me so much of your time. :) Once again, most appreciated
[10:40] <steven> its just annoying cos with every kernel update apt breaks cos /boot is at 100% then I have to run autoremove manually to remove the oldest kernel and apt reconfigred the current one.
[10:41] <ducasse> steven: i have both 16.04 and 17.04, same thing.
[10:41] <steven> weird
[10:41] <steven> how did u check?
[10:41] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: yw :)
[10:41] <steven> did u ll /boot or use dpkg?
[10:41] <ducasse> steven: i looked in /boot
[10:42] <steven> can u run dpkg --list | grep linux-image | grep "^ii"
[10:42] <steven> lists three on lts server and two on desktop
[10:42] <steven> in my case anyway
[10:44] <ducasse> two actual packages and a meta-package
[10:45] <steven> ok so for some reason my server keeps three and it bloats my /boot. I dont wanna resize partitions. there has got to be a config to change this-.-
[10:45] <steven> I guess ubuntu-dev would be the place to ask then?
[10:45] <steven> thanks for double checking tho ducasse !
[10:46] <ducasse> steven: you can try #ubuntu-server, see if someone there has seen this before. other than that i don't know.
[10:46] <steven> thanks, gonna ask those guys
[10:48] <steven> one last thing
[10:48] <steven> no.. I forgot-.-
[10:49] <vegombrei> hi im a noob, using ubuntu 16:10, im trying to emulate retro nintendo games but dont really know how i downloaded some emulators and roms but have no clue how to get rm to work
[10:50] <steven> for downloading roms this is the wrong place to ask, emulators can be installed using the apt package manager vegombrei
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> vegombrei: apt-cache search nintendo
[10:52] <vegombrei> steven: what is the right place to ask?
[10:52] <steven> since downloading roms is illegal, I can't help you with that either :)
[10:52] <steven> you won't get anything official from a linux distribution, google is the only place one could point you to.
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> vegombrei: you can check the manpage of a nintendo emulator, see how it works: man your-nintendo-package-here
[10:54] <steven> ah yeah I remember ducasse, what ever happened to kernel updates w/o system reboots?
[10:54] <steven> is ksplice a thing now and if so, does ubuntu 1604 makes use of it? cos I saw that I was using an older kernel and after the reboot it used the current one
[10:54] <ducasse> !livepatch | steven
[10:54] <ikonia> steven: I'd keep away from ksplice if I was you
[10:56] <steven> ah ok, but this  just patches the current kernel, right?
[10:56] <steven> ikonia: because?
[10:56] <ikonia> steven: no
[10:56] <ikonia> steven: it patches nothing
[10:56] <ikonia> it swaps out the kernel that is running for the new kernel in full - in live memory
[10:56] <mgken> am new here
[10:56] <steven> oh, well they say patching on the website ikonia :D so I assumed
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> mgken: you have joined the ubuntu support channel
[10:57] <mgken> thank you
[10:57] <ThetaOrionis> Hey guys, I temporarily disabled DNSSEC (setting DNSSEC=no on /etc/systemd/resolved.sonf) to solve my lack of connectivity with a fresh 17.04 install. Latest updates fixed the DNSSEC issue, and my connectivity is normal again
[10:58] <mgken> is it possible to run ubuntu on top of linux mint
[10:58] <ikonia> ThetaOrionis: ok ?
[10:58] <ThetaOrionis> So, since disabling DNSSEC is a security risk, could I've exposed my system to vulnerabilities? (I only installed the updates from Ubuntu server)
[10:58] <ikonia> ThetaOrionis: not really no,
[10:58] <ikonia> do you understand how the ubuntu dns resolver setup works ?
[10:59] <ThetaOrionis> ikonia: I'm afraid not. :(
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> mgken: we dont support mint issues here mate
[10:59] <ikonia> ThetaOrionis: thats fine, I'm just asking before I give you info
[10:59] <ikonia> ThetaOrionis: it is very very very unlikley removing dns sec from your local resolver setup has created any risk for you
[11:00] <mgken> ok
[11:00] <ducasse> mgken: that doesn't make any sense
[11:00] <ikonia> it's more for dns servers (which is how the local resolver works these days)
[11:01] <ThetaOrionis> ikonia: And btw, I checked the file again (the updates asked to rewrite the resolved.conf file) and the DNSSEC=no is now commented (#DNSSEC=no). Does that mean DNSSEC is back ON again? :)
[11:02] <ikonia> it will go back to default, which I'd assume is "yes" if you had to disable it
[11:02] <ThetaOrionis> I see. Many thanks, ikonia. :)
[11:04] <ducasse> default is allow-downgrade, iirc
[11:05] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse: Exactly, but even in the default file, it was commented, and not active. (#DNSSEC=allow-downgrade), which I temporarily changed to DNSSEC=no, and now it's #DNSSEC=no
[11:05] <ThetaOrionis> I guess since it's commented, the value of DNSSEC won't be an issue.
[11:06] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: which will make it the default, DNSSEC=allow-downgrade
[11:06]  * EKaa back
[11:07] <ikonia> thank you ducasse
[11:07] <ThetaOrionis> Oh, I see! Possibly then, having the DNSSEC=allow-grade commented created the problem in the first place, on my fresh install
[11:07] <ThetaOrionis> Thanks again ducasse!
[11:07] <xpheres> hello, I just checked my ram and found that the internal 4gb module of my laptop and the external 8gb are configured to a very slow clock speed
[11:07] <xpheres> https://pastebin.com/A23HJJLb
[11:08] <xpheres> can anyone advice me if that is correct and what can I do?
[11:08] <Ben64> xpheres: looks fine
[11:09] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: no, the commented values in the original file are the defaults. if you cgange it and then comment it out, it will use the default again.
[11:09] <xpheres> why do I see that internal memory has 1600mhz external has 1300mhz and both configured clock speed 667mhz?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> !away | EKaa
[11:09] <ThetaOrionis> Oh, that's interesting
[11:09] <Ben64> xpheres: well theres no such thing as internal and external ram
[11:10] <Ben64> xpheres: and 1333mhz = 667mhz
[11:10] <xpheres> ben64 I'm saying that just to explain that there are two ram modules, one is inside the laptop's board and the other is a module I added
[11:10] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: the commented-out entries are a way of telling you what the defaults are
[11:10] <xpheres> ben64 may I should buy a 1600mhz ram to get the laptop to its optimal performance?
[11:10] <EKaa> ok,sorry :) im on 2 servers :))
[11:10] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: if you remove all the comment signs you still use the same config :)
[11:11] <Ben64> xpheres: it won't make a noticeable difference
[11:11] <xpheres> ah ok ...
[11:11] <xpheres> then I should not worry
[11:12] <Ben64> xpheres: yeah, ram is never going to be the slow part of your computer
[11:12] <xpheres> ok
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> xpheres: try preload on ubuntu, nice overal speedup
[11:12] <xpheres> I just though that if both modules are set up to the half of the maximal possible performance that would impact general performance
[11:13] <xpheres> lotuspsychje is that a command?
[11:13] <Ben64> xpheres: its not half though
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | xpheres a package
[11:13] <xpheres> ok lotus
[11:13] <thyriaen> Does anyone else have problems with Geary ( the e-mail client ? ) i am experiencing crashes, bugs in resizing the window and generally some wonky bugs concerning the gui, like maximising does not really work ( when i maximize the window it just gets shrinked into one small band across the monitor ( could have been connected to multi-monitor setup ? )
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[11:14] <thyriaen> 16.04
[11:14] <xpheres> ok preload installed
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: updated system to 16.04.2?
[11:14] <ducasse> thyriaen: desktop/wm?
[11:15] <xpheres> I just need to write preload or should I add atributes?
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> xpheres: just a simple reboot, nothing else to do
[11:15] <thyriaen> i am on elementary OS - forked from ubuntu 16.04
[11:15] <xpheres> and what does that package do?
[11:15] <xpheres> sorry I mean what is the purpose of that package?
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> xpheres: it pre-loads programs
[11:16] <ducasse> !elementary | thyriaen
[11:16] <cfhowlett> thyriaen, sorry, can't help you here.  elementary is not ubuntu.  use elementary support instaed
[11:16] <thyriaen> i cannot say anything about default ubuntu - however since everything else is working flawlessly i suspect the geary to be the problem ( i just wanted to find out if anyone else has problems with it )
[11:16] <xpheres> !info preload
[11:18] <tuxi3> hi all
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> xpheres: there are many other tweaks you can try to boost your system, take the most out of your ram
[11:18] <xpheres> ah ok
[11:18] <xpheres> I understand that package loads in ram what I use more often
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> xpheres: disabled unwanted services, preload,swappiness,install an ssd,clean system,.etc
[11:19] <ducasse> thyriaen: the elementary desktop is not supported here, and could have a big impact on your problem. try their support.
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: another option we can offer you, is to download ubuntu desktop and test geary there, lets say on an LTS version?
[11:20] <thyriaen> the elementary channel is pretty dead, so i thought id ask you about it - but if no such problem is known here it probably is my desktop gui
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> !live | thyriaen test out geary real quick?
[11:22] <thyriaen> most of the time geary is working fine
[11:22] <thyriaen> really hard to reproduce
[11:23] <thyriaen> ive been working with it daily now for 4 months
[11:23] <thyriaen> and i experienced that issue like trhice now
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: well on your current Os we cant help you here, sorry
[11:23] <thyriaen> ye i understand, no problem
[11:27] <xpheres> ok I'm going to reboot to start using preload and see if I get improvents in load times
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> xpheres: gl
[11:27] <xpheres> thanks for the tip!
[11:28] <vegombrei> so the nes emulator doesnt quite work i wonder why]
[11:28] <thyriaen> i am running geary 10.0 - is there a deb package for geary 11.3 or a repsoitory i can add ?
[11:28] <vegombrei> i neeed some help
[11:28] <belenos> don't expect any magic
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> thyriaen: what did we just suggested you?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> !help | vegombrei
[11:29] <Ben64> vegombrei: explain
[11:37] <vegombrei> so im trying to play retro nes games got a bunch of emulators but just cant get any of em to work
[11:37] <Ben64> vegombrei: cool
[11:37] <bazhang> vegombrei, which ones
[11:37] <ESO3B-28> :D
[11:37] <ESO3B-28> :D
[11:37] <vegombrei> ho do i access the illegal stuff for sudo apt get?
[11:37] <ESO3B-28> hello
[11:37] <bazhang> vegombrei, you dont
[11:37] <vegombrei> i like contra super mario mega man
[11:37] <ESO3B-28> how i can be root
[11:37] <bazhang> vegombrei, go to archive.org
[11:38] <ESO3B-28> in UBUNTU
[11:38] <bazhang> ESO3B-28, use sudo not root
[11:38] <bazhang> vegombrei, most of those old roms are there
[11:38] <ESO3B-28> but i can't
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !root | ESO3B-28
[11:38] <ESO3B-28> because have an error
[11:38] <Ben64> ESO3B-28: what error
[11:38] <cfhowlett> ESO3B-28, assume we have zero idea what the error is and tell us
[11:39] <ESO3B-28> ESO3B-28 no está en el archivo sudoers. Se informará de este incidente.
[11:39] <ESO3B-28> this happen
[11:39] <ESO3B-28> when i press sudo -i
[11:39] <ESO3B-28> what is sudoers¿
[11:40] <cfhowlett> because that user is not authorized to use sudo.
[11:40] <cfhowlett> is this YOUR computer or someone else's?
[11:40] <ESO3B-28> not is my computer
[11:41] <cfhowlett> then you need to ask owner for his authorization.  we will not be helping you crack someone else's system
[11:43] <ducasse> vegombrei: you were told we won't help you with this.
[11:44] <bazhang> he's gone ducasse
[11:52] <Qwertie> I need to open a bug about ubuntu freezing after updating to 17.04. Is the info from lspci enough to open a report?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> !bug | Qwertie please read for guidance
[11:53] <Qwertie> Ah that has some useful info, thanks
[11:55] <ducasse> Qwertie: after filing a bug you will most likely be asked to provide certain logs or test specific kernels and report back, so make sure to provide a valid email address.
[11:58] <Qwertie> So when it freezes again I should hit Alt+SysRq+1 and take a photo of the screen?
[12:00] <ducasse> Qwertie: if it freezes hard enough, it might not let you do that.
[12:02] <mati> Hi, I have problem with scallin' game. I'm tryin' to run a WarThunder on my screen(4K), I choosen  fullscreen(1080p) in settings and game run in fullhd but doesn't change display seetings to this resolution and game run only in one quarter. How i can handle this problem
[12:04] <aezakmi> ayy
[12:04] <aezakmi> quit
[12:13] <kristhian> why sudo apt-get install xchat return this?
[12:13] <kristhian> http://termbin.com/3hs2
[12:13] <r__rios> Hello, all. I have an nVidia nForce ethernet card and NetworkManager keeps killing my connection. It only comes back up if I restart the network-manager service. I'm running 14.04. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
[12:14] <cfhowlett> kristhian, xchat has been dead.  for YEARS >>> hexchat
[12:14] <kristhian> sudo apt-get install hexchat?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> https://hexchat.github.io/news/announcement.html
[12:15] <kristhian> ok
[12:15] <cfhowlett> yes, that command will work
[12:15] <kristhian> thanks
[12:18] <leeboby> the information of  joining and quiting is not nice
[12:18] <username2> someone can help me?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | leeboby try this
[12:20] <username2> i have a wifi usb dont work
[12:22] <username2> i have this wifi-usb Buffalo Airstation WLI-UC-GNM , but dont working on ubuntu
[12:22] <cfhowlett> !wifi | username2 read this to begin troubleshooting
[12:31] <Norbin> is gnome the default graphical shell in 17.04 ?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Norbin, no
[12:32] <Norbin> oh. still unity then. makes sense why i see no difference.  this release note  confused me: Unity 8 is available as an alternative session
[12:32] <Norbin> alternative?
[12:33] <mcphail> Norbin: unity7 is standard in 17.04
[12:34] <Norbin> oh.
[12:34] <Norbin> i get it. thanks.
[13:12] <ducasse> Norbin: there is a 'tech preview' of unity8 in 17.04, but it is in no way suited for actual daily use.
[13:21] <kristhian> question how do i install flash player in ubuntu?
[13:22] <tarzeau> install google chrome, then you'll have it
[13:22] <BluesKaj> !flash
[13:23] <cfhowlett> tarzeau, or install chromium
[13:23] <tarzeau> chromium doesn't include flash, does it?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> it does
[13:23] <tarzeau> google chrome bundles adobe flash.
[13:23] <BluesKaj> kristhian, chrome seems to solve alot of problems that FF has with flash now
[13:23] <tarzeau> the one from adobe?
[13:23] <tarzeau> not so i debian, for sure! (certainly not the adobe flash)
[13:23] <cfhowlett> and chromium is unbranded chrome
[13:24] <tarzeau> cfhowlett: yes and in main, which requires it to have no ADOBE binary software
[13:24] <tarzeau> or it can't go into main, but non-free
[13:24] <tarzeau> dpkg -L chromium |grep flash
[13:24] <ducasse> chromium does not include flash, you need to install the plugin
[13:24] <tarzeau> cfhowlett: what's the flash thing called in chromium on 16.04?
[13:24] <tarzeau> ducasse: that's what i am saying all the time
[13:25] <tarzeau> kristhian: but seriously. i stopped using adobe flash 5 years ago. now it's 2017. you seriously still need it? what for?
[13:25] <tarzeau> it is a security problem
[13:26] <tarzeau> and for laptops a battery eater
[13:26] <ducasse> tarzeau: you need pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[13:26] <tarzeau> i certainly don't need it
[13:26] <tarzeau> a web page that can't be looked at with links2, is a broken web page
[13:33] <DevAntoine> hi
[13:33] <DevAntoine> I'm wondering why the following command outputs the last echo: echo 250 | xargs test 250 -gt || echo "too much violation"
[13:37] <kristhian> how do i instll flash player in ubuntu?
[13:37] <DevAntoine> is it possible to grep the output of a command, do some stuff but still display the output?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> kristhian, read ducasse's post above
[13:38] <ducasse> kristhian: adobe-flashplugin should install the plugin for both firefox and chromium, but iirc you need the esr release of firefox now for flash support
[13:39] <BluesKaj> or below :-)
[13:40] <ToBeCloud> Just use Google Chrome
[13:40] <ToBeCloud> It comes with flash as long as that stuff is still needed, and it is kept up to date and watched by people who do have an understanding of security issues in browsers
[13:41] <kristhian> sorry i could not scroll up with the irc client that i am using ducasse
[13:41] <kristhian> can i install it using a command line?
[13:41] <ducasse> kristhian: apt install adobe-flashplugin
[13:41] <ducasse> kristhian: sudo apt install adobe-flashplugin
[13:41] <ducasse> sorry :)
[13:42] <cfhowlett> on 16.04 that would be flashplugin-installer
[13:43] <kristhian> e.
[13:43] <kristhian> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[13:43] <kristhian> is only available from another source
[13:43] <kristhian> E: Package 'adobe-flashplugin' has no installation candidate
[13:43] <cfhowlett> on 16.04 that would be flashplugin-installer
[13:43] <kristhian> i can't install it
[13:44] <kristhian> thanks
[13:44] <kristhian> wait a minute, bbl
[14:09] <ruffleS> hi. does anyone here have a dell xps 14 (L421X). i need to know what's the best nvidia driver version for this laptop. thanks
[14:11] <BluesKaj> ruffleS, graphics or ?
[14:12] <ruffleS> BluesKaj: graphics. this notebook has a hybrid graphics card. nvidia 630m
[14:13] <BluesKaj> oh lord. an optimus
[14:13] <ruffleS> yes :(
[14:13] <BluesKaj> install nvidia-prime and bumblebee
[14:14] <kristhian> btw how do i unmount an external storage, using a command line?
[14:14] <kristhian> or a usb?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> kristhian,sudo umount /dev/dsX
[14:14] <ruffleS> kristhian: sudo umount /mount_point or sudo umount /dev/device
[14:14] <BluesKaj> oops j=kristhian sudo umount /dev/sdX
[14:15] <ruffleS> BluesKaj: i tried nvidia-375 and it was working fine on ubuntu gnome 17.04 but Fn F4 / Fn F5 (keyboard shortcuts for screen brightness adjustment) froze the heck out of X
[14:15] <sim642> I upgraded 14.04->16.04 and the nvidia driver or something broke. I'm stuck with a crappy 1024x768 resolution, can't pick the fullhd. How should I go about fixing it?
[14:16] <ruffleS> BluesKaj: so i'm downloading Ubuntu Budgie 17.04 and I'll give it a go
[14:16] <cfhowlett> ruffleS, wait, what?  do you have ubuntu installed now?
[14:16] <ruffleS> sim642: try to go to nvidia driver website and find the proper driver for your graphics card
[14:16] <BluesKaj> ruffleS, well, Optimus is kind of hit and miss so good luck
[14:17] <ruffleS> cfhowlett: not now. i hasd to fall back to windows
[14:17] <sim642> ruffleS, I used to use the nvidia proprietary one that ubuntu allow installing directly, shouldn't it still work?
[14:17] <ruffleS> sim642: this one still overheats my laptop
[14:17] <ruffleS> this optimus thing is a pain in the ass
[14:17] <sim642> I still have the nvidia control panel thing too but it has no settings
[14:22] <ducasse> sim642: don't download drivers from the nvidia site, use the ones in the repos
[14:25] <sim642> ducasse, that's what I have still after the upgrade, but it's not working correctly
[14:25] <ruffleS> sim642: do you know your graphics card model?
[14:25] <ducasse> sim642: see if there is another driver available in the 'additional drivers' dialog
[14:26] <sim642> ruffleS, nvidia 9600 gt
[14:26] <sim642> ducasse, the open source one is the alternative
[14:27] <ducasse> sim642: have you tried that one?
[14:27] <sim642> No, I want to know why this one doesn't work when it used to for me ever since the beginning
[14:29] <kristhian> btw how do i unmount an external storage, using a command line?
[14:29] <ducasse> sim642: it probably does not work correctly with this version of x11.
[14:29] <ducasse> kristhian: wasn't that just answered?
[14:31] <kristhian> ducasse: im sorry, i wasnt paying attention
[14:32] <kristhian> sorry for that
[14:33] <ruffleS_> sim642: on nvidia website you'll find the driver version for your graphics card. then you should try to find it in ubuntu's repositories
[14:34] <ruffleS_> in my case for instance i found out that my graphics card is supported by nvidia-375 then i installed it using apt-get
[14:34] <ducasse> kristhian: you can use 'lsblk' to list devices for (un)mounting
[14:35] <ducasse> sim642: there is a driver ppa with various versions of the nvidia driver, but i'm not familiar with it. others here are.
[14:39] <kristhian> for example i wanted to unmount sda1?
[14:40] <kristhian> ill just lsblk sda1?
[14:40] <kristhian> command something like that?
[14:40] <ikonia> you unmount the file system, not the devie
[14:40] <ikonia> deice
[14:40] <ikonia> device
[14:40] <ikonia> eg: umount /opt/something - which would be /dev/sda1
[14:41] <kristhian> how will i know the exact directory where sda1 is located?
[14:41] <kristhian> what command will i type?
[14:41] <ikonia> type "mount" and you'll see all the mount points
[14:42] <kristhian> ok
[14:42] <kristhian> then how will i identify if the one i am going to unmount is the right one?
[14:43] <kristhian> for example my usb
[14:43] <ikonia> have you typed "mount" yet ?
[14:43] <kristhian> yes i did
[14:43] <ikonia> ok - so you should see a mount point and associated device
[14:43] <kristhian> http://termbin.com/fipd
[14:44] <kristhian> that is the list of mount
[14:44] <ikonia> ok ?
[14:45] <LoRez> ugh, I'm getting tired enough of this to ask...  chrome, if focused, keeps ingesting my keyboard's media keys and going forward to a blank page (ie, alt-left goes back to where I was)
[14:46] <LoRez> wtf is it doing this?  Even though pithos in this case is getting the key as well
[15:06] <Spetznaz_> hello guys
[15:06] <Spetznaz_>  /msg NickServ REGISTER email hunteranonymous901@yahoo.com
[15:06] <Spetznaz_> sorry
[15:13] <Nitrogen> How do I convert 86 PNG Files to a single PDF?
[15:15] <repozitor> is there exist anyway to stop/pause the context switching for special process in ubuntu?
[15:15] <repozitor> my process need to have dedicate core, 100% of all the time.
[15:15] <nacc> repozitor: sounds like a hard RT question
[15:15] <repozitor> any context will destroy my application.
[15:15] <repozitor> of course it is.
[15:15] <SwedeMike> Nitrogen: https://superuser.com/questions/350201/convert-many-images-to-one-pdf-on-mac  see the one about "imagemagick", that's available for Ubuntu as well.
[15:15] <nacc> repozitor: and a very fragile application that needs a non-generic OS
[15:16] <ppf> Nitrogen: convert piecewise, then concatenate
[15:16] <nacc> repozitor: ubuntu is not a hard RT OS
[15:16] <repozitor> nacc, you are saying my question is out of channel topic?
[15:16] <nacc> repozitor: i'm saying that you need  hard RT OS to do that
[15:16] <nacc> repozitor: you can do hacks to make it sort of works in linux (cpusets, isolcpus)
[15:17] <Bad_Dream> does anyone have experience with xrdp? im having no luck setting it up. i can connect but dont see the desktop or have control over it
[15:17] <repozitor> i have setup cpuset, but i still see contex switch number is growing.
[15:17] <repozitor> it means cpusets can't prevent context switches.
[15:18] <nacc> repozitor: or you have more than one process in your cpuset
[15:18] <repozitor> nacc, i have exactly one process in cputset.
[15:18] <repozitor> i mean one process in shield.
[15:18] <nacc> repozitor: or your cpusets overlap?
[15:18] <acresearch> people, i have a python binary compiled and it is -r-x------ it executes normally if i run it python3 FILENAME.pyc but will not run ./FILENAME.pyc ---> why?
[15:18] <repozitor> what do you mean by overlap?
[15:19] <ppf> acresearch: ./FILENAME.py is probably missing a hashbang
[15:19] <acresearch> ppf: let me check
[15:19] <pynki_> (a,b) (b,c) overlap...\
[15:20] <nacc> repozitor: cpus are present in multiple cpusets
[15:20] <nacc> repozitor: also cpusets do not prevent kernel preemption
[15:20] <repozitor> nacc, my cpu have 4core, one core is shielded for hard-realtime process. the other cores run all other tasks
[15:20] <nacc> repozitor: again, ubuntu kernel (by default) is not a hard rt kernel
[15:20] <nacc> repozitor: "shielded" how?
[15:20] <acresearch> ppf: it does : #!/usr/bin/python3
[15:20] <repozitor> nacc, i have to prevent kernel preemtion.
[15:20] <nacc> repozitor: then cpusets won't help you
[15:20] <ppf> acresearch: you don't run the 'compiled' file, you run the python file
[15:20] <repozitor> nacc, i should say my command?
[15:21] <Younder> All kernels have kernel preemption
[15:21] <nacc> repozitor: you need isolcpus
[15:21] <repozitor> nacc, is there exist any patch or module for preventing kernel preemtion?
[15:21] <nacc> Younder: there are ways to elide cpus from the runnable cpu list
[15:21] <acresearch> ppf: what do you mean? i know i can run the python file, but i want to know how to run the compiled file
[15:21] <nacc> acresearch: you don't run the compiled file
[15:21] <repozitor> nacc, isolcpus prevent kernel preemtion?
[15:21] <nacc> acresearch: the interpreter knows what to do
[15:22] <ppf> acresearch: you can't
[15:22] <ppf> not from the terminal, not like ./bla.pyc
[15:22] <acresearch> nacc: so why is there is function to compile a python script?
[15:22] <nacc> repozitor: read about it, isolcpus puts some cpus in isolation and the kernel scheduler doesn't interact with it. I believe it doesn't put kthreads on it, but i'm not sure
[15:23] <genii> acresearch: Python is an interpreted and not compiled language
[15:23] <nacc> acresearch: because the interpreter compiles it and uses it (aiui)
[15:23] <nacc> acresearch: the .pyc file just speeds up the interpretation step of the .py file loading
[15:23] <ppf> acresearch: this is about running it, not compiling it
[15:23] <repozitor> my application have only one thread.
[15:23] <repozitor> if kernel put some cpu in isolation, can i run my process on that core?
[15:23] <ppf> genii: weeeell
[15:23] <acresearch> genii: nacc ppf ok i get it :-)
[15:23] <nacc> s/compiles/interprets/
[15:23] <repozitor> nacc, that was for me?
[15:23] <nacc> repozitor: yes
[15:23] <nacc> repozitor: again, please read about it
[15:24] <repozitor> ok i got it
[15:27] <Younder> Most real time OS'es like QNS only make sure that the system can remain no. They do this by only taking down the processes needed to keep things running. So they avoid the need to reboot. Hard RT is done by divisioning into small peces and making sure you keep under the deadline or by adding dedicated processors. I am currently using a FPGA for that purpose.
[15:28] <Younder> That is a software radio and motor control.
[15:28] <repozitor> Younder, of course FGPA with feature can be accessible in custom design.
[15:28] <repozitor> but in many cases you have only one option.
[15:28] <repozitor> and it is ubuntu.
[15:29] <nacc> Younder: agreed -- and ubuntu (generically) is not hard RTOS and can't be one without manual changes
[15:29] <Younder> Never the less real time is a combination of software and hardware.
[15:29] <nacc> repozitor: then you have no options, probably, I don't think even with isolcpus you can guarantee hard RT on ubuntu
[15:29] <nacc> hard RT is an assertion
[15:30] <repozitor> nacc, if kernel exclude one from scheduling, then i'm sure my process is realtime.
[15:30] <nacc> repozitor: oh ok, if all that matters is that you're sure
[15:30] <nacc> repozitor: then sure, anything is hard RT
[15:30] <nacc> that's *not* how hard RT works
[15:30] <repozitor> because in my application, if my process run always on dedicate core, it will works fine.
[15:31] <nacc> repozitor: then you don't want hard RT
[15:31] <nacc> repozitor: you want CPU isolation
[15:32] <repozitor> nacc, differentiating hard-realtime from cpu isolation isn't our goal. but if i isolate one cpu from scheduling(actually preventing context switch) i will have hard-realtime feature for my application.
[15:32] <repozitor> right?
[15:32] <helpless> Display managers aren't working for me, how do I go and troubelshoot this?
[15:36] <ducasse> helpless: first, by defining "aren't working".
[15:36] <helpless> Displaymanagers work
[15:36] <helpless> but when I try to launch a DE after entering the credentials I get a black screen and back to login
[15:36] <ducasse> can you login as guest?
[15:37] <helpless> Nope and not as root either
[15:37] <helpless> The issue persists with most distributions
[15:37] <nacc> repozitor: i'm not sure, as i believe, e.g., kernel IRQ servicing may still happen. You'd need to read about what isolcpus asserts and doesn't
[15:37] <ducasse> helpless: which ubuntu is this?
[15:37] <helpless> Kubuntu atm
[15:37] <helpless> but I'm pretty sure its with most Ubuntus
[15:38] <ducasse> helpless: version?
[15:38] <helpless> as the issue persists no matetr which distribution I'm using
[15:38] <helpless> 17.10
[15:38] <ducasse> helpless: 17.10?
[15:38] <nacc> well that seems unlikely
[15:38] <helpless> 17.04*
[15:38] <nacc> :)
[15:38] <wiggmpk> Is wayland use with nvidia not possible on 17.04?
[15:39] <ducasse> helpless: try looking at ~/.xsession-errors after attempting to log in
[15:39] <helpless> It was empty
[15:39] <helpless> I had the exact same issue with OpenSUSE and Arch as well
[15:39] <helpless> The only way I can use the OS is to xinit manually and not use a DM
[15:40] <Younder> the file is in /var/log/session
[15:40] <helpless> Thanks, I'll have to boot back into linux, brb
[15:41] <ducasse> Younder: which file? is that a kde thing?
[15:45] <Spetznaz_> hello everyone can anyone tell me how could i change the default design of my terminal.
[15:45] <ducasse> Spetznaz_: design?
 for example adding some arts in my terminal to be it more lovely using PS1 , PS2, PS3 and PS4
[15:47] <ducasse> Spetznaz_: the easy way - powerline.
[15:48] <Spetznaz_> powerline? what is that thing.. is it a tool to be downloaded? Mr.ducasse
[15:49] <ducasse> Spetznaz_: it's in the repos, but it requires reading the docs. it can be pretty, if you like that kind of thing.
[15:51] <Spetznaz_> why this pinging always showing me... uhh
[15:51] <lamerchenca> elky ikonai whats up lames
[15:52] <Spetznaz_> lamerchenca ur the lame
[15:52] <lamerchenca> o yea
[15:53] <Spetznaz_> lamerchenca : are u a web developer?
[15:53] <nacc> Spetznaz_: don't feed trolls
[15:53] <lamerchenca> no i vpn proxy trolle and abuse
[15:53] <lamerchenca> troller
[15:56] <hamid> اثممخ
[15:56] <hamid> HELLO
[15:57] <Guest27708> HOW COULD I INSATLE SOME SOFTWER
[15:57] <ducasse> Guest27708: press caps lock
[15:57] <lamerchenca> Guest27708:   open the terminal sudo su
[15:57] <lamerchenca> pass
[15:58] <ducasse> !software | Guest27708
[15:58] <lamerchenca> apt install evrything
[15:58] <lamerchenca> e some repos add
[15:58] <Spetznaz_> leamerchenca no troll for a russian guy like you
[15:58] <lamerchenca> non free
[15:59] <lamerchenca> this is vpn
[15:59] <lamerchenca> i am Bulgarian
[15:59] <lamerchenca> just i am bann
[16:00] <lamerchenca> some irc tricks
[16:08] <gavin_> 有人吗
[16:08] <yasin> ...中文。。
[16:08] <yasin> 大哥
[16:08] <yasin> 这里有国际友人的吧
[16:08] <yasin> 哈哈
[16:09] <ducasse> !cn
[16:10] <yasin> 666
[16:11] <Younder> sdfsd
[16:11] <lijia> sduyhuhsd
[16:12] <lijia> helle
[16:12] <yasin> ....
[16:12] <yasin> lijia cn?
[16:12] <lijia> yes
[16:13] <yasin> It's too late to cn
[16:13] <lijia> yes,time to sleep
[16:14] <yasin> I have add you to my connection list.
[16:16] <lijia> I run ubuntu mate on a raspberry Pi
[16:19] <lijia> you are at sichuan? @yasin
[16:20] <ducasse> lijia: yasin: please chat elsewhere, this is a support channel
[16:24] <yasin> yes
[16:24] <yasin> chengdu
[16:25] <yasin> sucasse: ok
[16:32] <repozitor> my realtime process need to share a segment of memory with it's child.
[16:32] <repozitor> after moving realtime process to isolcpu, can they still pass data using isolcpu techique?
[16:33] <repozitor> nacc, ^_^
[16:34] <nacc> repozitor: isolcpus is purely about cpu isolation
[16:34] <nacc> repozitor: it has nothing to do with memory (afair)
[16:35] <repozitor> static value for nonvoluntary_ctxt_switches and voluntary_ctxt_switches means no context switch occur on my process?
[16:35] <ycyclist> I'm trying to talk with a vm from another vm, and after a bit my access goes away so that it does not accept my password.
[16:35] <repozitor> how to be sure that no context switch occured for my process?
[16:36] <ycyclist> The exact message is:  Permission denied, please try again.
[16:36] <blazefantsyy> Hi, how can I range ban from two first parts of an IP address?
[16:36] <blazefantsyy> Hi how can I range ban from two first parts of an IP address?
[16:36] <ycyclist> I know I'm using the right password, as I can go log into a shell directly from the VM and it works, but ssh in does not.
[16:37] <Spetznaz_> hello homies how could i limit my bandwidth while accessing multiple sites?
[16:37] <Spetznaz_> im a ubuntu user .. keep that in mind
[16:39] <rud0lf> i have access to ubuntu on remote server through ssh.. what is the best way to persist LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" ?
[16:39] <rud0lf> .bashrc ?
[16:39] <Spetznaz_> rud0lf bashrc is for terminal colors
[16:39] <rud0lf> where then?
[16:40] <Spetznaz_> better download something rud0lf
[16:40] <rud0lf> i don't understand
[16:41] <ducasse> rud0lf: ignore that
[16:41] <Spetznaz_> u mean u have access remotely in someones pc using ubuntu?
[16:41] <rud0lf> it's vps
[16:41] <rud0lf> i have sudo access tho
[16:42] <ducasse> rud0lf: you can just put it in .bashrc, that's fine.
[16:42] <rud0lf> thanks
[16:43] <troulouliou_dev> hi on a new laptop i have my m2 sata is seen as /dev/nvme0 on another computer with a mix of ssd and m2 it is seen as /dev/sdx; what is in charge of naming it like this ?
[16:45] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: most likley the controller
[16:45] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, yep seems so ; Non-Volatile memory controller vs other one
[16:45] <troulouliou_dev> vs sata bus
[16:46] <ikonia> one of my machines has a bios option to preset as sata or sata express
[16:46] <Spetznaz_> do some of you guys use iptables with NAT ?
[16:46] <ikonia> yes
[16:48] <Spetznaz_> ikonia are u an expert in maintaining the firewall security while using ubuntu?
[16:49] <ikonia> Spetznaz_: why don't you just ask your real question
[16:49] <Spetznaz_> okay okay
[16:50] <Spetznaz_> i would like to do some experiments about the iptables
[16:50] <Spetznaz_> just connecting to the internet using iptables through a hotspot that is not registered to any network services and that hostpot using phones free data only
[16:51] <ycyclist> Say, what does this mean?  grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `rootfs'.
[16:52] <Spetznaz_> ycyclist  it says give up!
[16:52] <ikonia> Spetznaz_: no it doesn't
[16:52] <ikonia> Spetznaz_: don't give bad information
[16:53] <ycyclist> Well, I'm getting this from Bash shell on Windows 10.
[16:53] <ducasse> !ubuwin | ycyclist
[16:53] <ycyclist> I was wondering if anyone knows, since that is a damaged Ubuntu essentially, what to do to fix it.
[16:53] <ducasse> ycyclist: read what ubottu said
[16:53] <ycyclist> Good thanks.
[16:53] <ikonia> it's damaged ubuntu how ?
[16:54] <Spetznaz_> ycylist we are ubuntu users
[16:54] <Spetznaz_> go to windows if thats the problem
[16:54] <nacc> bash on windows is not ubuntu afaik -- it's just a shell
[16:54] <nacc> Spetznaz_: stop it
[16:54] <ducasse> !ubuwin | ycyclist
[16:54] <ducasse> !behelpful | Spetznaz_
[16:54] <ikonia> Spetznaz_: you won't be told again about bad information
[16:57] <ycyclist> Thanks guys.  I'm asking my questions there.
[17:02] <Spetznaz_> what was happening why it always say peer reset
[17:06] <FinalX> what triggers this upon login?: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS end-of-life is April 25, 2017 -- Upgrade your Precise systems!
[17:06] <dax> update-motd
[17:06] <FinalX> it's in a brand new 17.04 install..
[17:06] <dax> which talks to a website, which has that on it
[17:06] <FinalX> bash: update-motd: command not found
[17:06] <FinalX> ah hm
[17:07] <yellabs-r2> is there a nice video to show what ubuntu is , somewhere ? For introduction to interested new users ..
[17:08] <immu> youtube
[17:09] <yellabs-r2> dont they have an official video somewhere ?
[17:09] <FinalX> dax: is that displayed on any Ubuntu system as part of a motd-news thing that I see? or is there a specific thing that triggers it? because I'm wondering what triggers that since I'm running 17.04 and it's telling me to upgrade like this :p
[17:09] <dax> FinalX: it's not a specific thing, you can ignore it
[17:10] <dax> no idea why canonical added it in the first place, to be honest
[17:13] <yellabs-r2> found a nice one , https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNnUnr4gwyNmzx_Bbzvt29g
[17:16] <kang0> Anyone know grub commands to check instalation?
[17:17] <ikonia> grub checks an installation ?
[17:17] <kang0> I guess ikanobori
[17:17] <kang0> ikonia
[17:17] <kang0> What's Its usages?
[17:17] <nacc> kang0: rephrase your question, state a problem first
[17:18] <kang0> I installed mint in hdd
[17:18] <generic> how do I install a font for chinese/ is that unicode ?
[17:18] <kang0> But its not booting up
[17:18] <nacc> !mint | kang0
[17:18] <kang0> So I want to verify
[17:18] <ikonia> you where told mint is not supported here
[17:18] <generic> some rectangles with numbers ..
[17:18] <kang0> Sorry Ubuntu
[17:18] <ikonia> kang0: no lies please
[17:18] <immu> ikonia, nope only ubuntu
[17:18] <kang0> Imagine
[17:19] <kang0> Not lies
[17:19] <ducasse> kang0: you've been told this many times
[17:19] <generic> mint != ubuntu
[17:19] <ikonia> kang0: no
[17:19] <ikonia> kang0: use mint support
[17:19] <immu> ikonia, go here  #linuxmint-help
[17:19] <kang0> It's not about mint
[17:20] <ikonia> kang0: it is
[17:20] <ikonia> kang0: drop it
[17:20] <kang0> Why
[17:20] <ikonia> you where told mint is not supported here
[17:20] <ikonia> kang0: drop it
[17:20] <ducasse> kang0: we've explained this several times before
[17:21] <immu> kang0, hmm
[17:24] <ocx32>  https://pastebin.com/CvUSDzsW Can someone help please? I cant get gnome to work
[17:25] <roelof> I want to pastebin my mail.log so I did cat mail.log | pastebinit  but when I do that I see a encode error message
[17:25] <roelof> what did I do wrong ?
[17:25] <ducasse> roelof: try running 'sudo locale-gen' first
[17:25] <ocx32> anyone?
[17:26] <ducasse> ocx32: kali?
[17:26] <ocx32> ducasse: kali , ubuntu all!
[17:26] <ducasse> !kali | ocx32
[17:26] <Guest525> I, I'm trying to boot Ubuntu on an AM4 platform, 1800X+Gigabyte K7 board..... running into the IRC trap 07 problem.  Is there a stable working version (14.04?)
[17:27] <roelof> ducasse : still this error :  utf-8 codec cannot decode byte 0xff in position 120954 invalid start byte
[17:27] <ocx32> ?!
[17:28] <roelof> wierd,  I did not change anything and this morning everything was working fine
[17:28] <ducasse> roelof: didn't you just ask about changing locale variables?
[17:29] <roelof> nope, I ask a question about pastebin acting wierd
[17:29] <ducasse> roelof: sorry, i mixed you up with someone else, since it seemed related :)
[17:30] <roelof> ducasse:  no problem
[17:30] <ducasse> roelof: what is your locale set to?
[17:30] <roelof> ducasse:  how can I check that
[17:30] <ducasse> roelof: echo $LC_ALL
[17:30] <roelof> ducasse:  empty respons
[17:31] <ducasse> roelof: echo $LANG
[17:31] <Rapture> trying to get some env variables working through non-interactive shell -- tried putting them in ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile and ~/.profile with no luck. Looks like ssh -t user1@1.2.3.4 "sudo echo $MY_VAR"
[17:31] <Rapture> if I'm reading the docs correct it should look for one of those
[17:31] <roelof> ducasse:  nl_NL.utf-8
[17:33] <rizonz> what is the way to create an init.d script and make it recognized as service on 16.04 ?
[17:40] <ducasse> roelof: sorry, had to fix something. could be an invalid unicode character in your log. does 'cat mail.log | nc termbin.com 9999' work better?
[17:47] <u0_a162> hello
[17:47] <roelof> ducasse:  that one does show a lot
[17:47] <roelof> thanks
[17:47] <ducasse> roelof: np
[17:53] <Wirehunter> hi all
[17:55] <Guest16846> Hello. I need some help with pulseaudio, which for some reason cannot make my front connector play any sound, while the back one is just fine. Anyone?
[17:57] <pavlos> rizonz: see example services section in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[17:58] <Wulf> Hello
[17:59] <Wulf> I upgraded to 17.04 and now my touch pad doesn't handle "three finger tap" anymore. How to fix this?
[18:00] <rizonz> pavlos: ok thanks
[18:01] <rizonz> anyone know as well how I can set arch=amd64 during preseed ?
[18:07] <nacc> rizonz: what do you mean? in a specific file?
[18:07] <rizonz> nacc: I need to have my sources list as [arch=amd64] only after I preseed
[18:08] <nacc> rizonz: are you instsalling on a 32-bit system?
[18:09] <rizonz> nacc: sure not but some packages need to have that set otherwisde there is searched for the 32 bit ones
[18:10] <nacc> rizonz: why are you using the 32-bit iso?
[18:10] <nacc> rizonz: if you are preseeding the amd64 install, it will not install 32-bit packages
[18:10] <rizonz> nacc: I'm not
[18:10] <nacc> rizonz: then provide an example of this, as it sounds fundamentally incorrect
[18:10] <tgm4883> rizonz: what packages are getting 32-bit versions installed?
[18:11] <rizonz> nacc: freeipa-client, if you don't have the 32 bits packages on your local repo it cannot find it, if you set your repo's to arch=amd64 only it does
[18:12] <Guest525> No bites?  (I'm trying to boot Ubuntu on an AM4 platform, 1800X+Gigabyte K7 board..... running into the IRC trap 07 problem.  Is there a stable working version (14.04?))?  :P
[18:12] <nacc> rizonz: freeipa-client is available in all releases on all arches
[18:12] <nacc> rizonz: so your repo is fubar?
[18:12] <tgm4883> rizonz: i just searched for freeipa-client on my 64-bit box and it finds it fine
[18:13] <rizonz> nacc: if you preseed against a 64 bits mirror only it will not find it, after it succeed not as well
[18:13] <rizonz> tgm4883: against a mirror that has 64bits packages only ?
[18:13] <rizonz> try that
[18:14] <rizonz> without setting arch=amd64
[18:14] <tgm4883> rizonz: it's going to take me a bit to setup a 64-bit only mirror
[18:15] <rizonz> tgm4883: if you already have a local one than it's done quickly :)
[18:15] <ducasse> Guest525: afaik you need 17.04 and a very very recent mainline kernel.
[18:15] <tgm4883> rizonz: I don't. At my house I don't have a local mirror anymore and at work my boxes are centos
[18:15] <rizonz> tgm4883: aha ok
[18:15] <Guest525> ducasse: Necessary to compile the kernel myself then?
[18:16] <ducasse> !mainline | Guest525 grab it here
[18:16] <kaili> Hello. I copied data on a fat32 usb stick from ubuntu 17.04 but I believe some files are corrupted : showing 0 octet as file size but in reality they are big
[18:16] <Guest525> ducasse: Thanks will try that ^_^
[18:16] <kaili> how can I correct that "
[18:17] <Random832> kaili, fsck, but it might delete the file instead of giving you your data back.
[18:17] <ducasse> kaili: did you properly unmount the stick before removing it?
[18:17] <kaili> What I mean is that du -h on the key gives 1.1 mo but df -h shows 468 mo
[18:17] <kaili> ducasse: I think so
[18:18] <Zwiggy> Hello, im very new to linux and have no clue what to do. i tried to google but nothin
[18:18] <nacc> !manual | Zwiggy
[18:19] <Zwiggy> there is this site which plays basically youtube videos, but it wont load after i messed around with Wine trying to add VST to my Lmms
[18:19] <Zwiggy> but now this site just keeps loading
[18:19] <Zwiggy> site works fine on w10 just chekced
[18:19] <nacc> rizonz: i'm still not sure i follow why adding [amd64] would matter if your repository is only amd64. But in nay case, you'd probably have to do it by hand in your preseed
[18:20] <Zwiggy> just chekced, site works fine on firefox on ubuntu aswell
[18:20] <kaili> Random832: does fsck runs on ntfs usb stick
[18:20] <nacc> Zwiggy: it only fails under wine?
[18:20] <Random832> you said it was fat32
[18:20] <Zwiggy> why im askin, is because it worked few hours back.
[18:20] <Zwiggy> no wine is closed
[18:20] <Zwiggy> but it happend after i did something with wine
[18:20] <Zwiggy> site itself is https://treesradio.com/
[18:21] <Random832> if it's ntfs you should *probably* run chkdsk on a windows machine. and then the same applies, it will probably just fix the free space and either delete the file or leave it empty
[18:21] <Random832> if it was your only copy of the data then, well, it might be gone, or you might be able to recover it by searching through a raw dump of the disk, but hope it wasn't your only copy.
[18:21] <kaili> Random832: damn there is no way to recover the data ? It's very important mail such as airplanes tickets and so ...
[18:22] <kaili> yes it's the only copy....
[18:22] <theablestman> hi
[18:22] <Random832> i mean that's the thing - the data might be there, it might not, but there's no recipe i can just give you to follow and recover it.
[18:22] <theablestman> how do get google chrome browser using terminal?
[18:23] <Random832> you should definitely make a backup image of the disk
[18:23] <theablestman> sudo apt-get install chrome?
[18:23] <Random832> and then try photorec
[18:23] <nacc> theablestman: you get it from google (or you can use chromium)
[18:23] <kaili> Random832: thanks will try that
[18:23] <theablestman> k
[18:23] <genii> theablestman: For chromium you can do that, but for chrome you need to install Google's repositories
[18:23] <Random832> but there's no guarantees
[18:24] <Random832> you could search by hand through a hex dump if you know what the data looks like and it was in plain text (not compressed)
[18:24] <ducasse> !recovery | kaili
[18:24] <Bashing-om> theablestman: No. Google-chrome is proprietarty to google. Got to get it from Google . What is in our repo is chrominum-browser .
[18:24] <ducasse> !recover | kaili
[18:24] <ducasse> kaili: ^^
[18:25] <kaili> I have no idea of the file format it was evolution mail's data
[18:25] <kaili> I guess it must be text
[18:25] <tgm4883> rizonz: does dpkg not know what arch to use in the preseed environment?
[18:25] <kaili> but a lot of files were pdf, such as airplane tickets lol
[18:25] <EriC^^> kaili: try testdisk
[18:25] <EriC^^> it works very well with fat32, then try photorec if that doesn't work
[18:25] <rizonz> tgm4883: I think not but even after it, the sources.list need amd64 as well
[18:27] <Random832> kaili, maybe you should contact the airline or your travel agency to see if you can get another copy of your tickets
[18:27] <kaili> Will try bothm thanks
[18:28] <Random832> if they're future tickets rather than past ones that is
[18:28] <kaili> Random832: yesm that should be fine. But I also had lot of data I need beside that
[18:28] <kaili> When I open evolution I have mail's title. just no content at all
[18:28] <tgm4883> rizonz:  "dpkg-architecture --list"
[18:29] <Random832> ok you need to stop accessing the disk, everything you do with it in read-write mode is risking making it harder to recover your data
[18:29] <Random832> anyway good luck
[18:29] <kaili> thanks ^^
[18:30] <rizonz> tgm4883: what about it ?
[18:30] <tgm4883> rizonz: does it list amd64
[18:31] <tgm4883> rizonz: also, looks like you might be able to set APT::Architecture=<arch>   https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO#Setting_up_apt_sources
[18:31] <rizonz> tgm4883: thanks! will look into it in about an hour
[18:35] <nutzz> Is there any package for tomcat7 on ubuntu 17.04?
[18:36] <nacc> !info tomcat7 zesty
[18:36] <nacc> nutzz: --^
[18:36] <nutzz> thanks
[18:36] <nacc> nutzz: so the source package does exist, but not the binary package
[18:36] <ducasse> nutzz: only tomcat8
[18:39] <gimpy936> how can I disable pop-up notifications in 16.04?  Google shows lots of really odd ways to do this, is there really no way just to turn it off?
[18:40] <kaili> Hey again
[18:42] <kaili> I have something interesting with test disk, when I enter the folder where the data should be, I have data file with a normal filename of size 0, but I also have file with a weird filename of normal size
[18:42] <kaili> I believe evolution tries to read normal file of 0 size
[18:43] <kaili> File with normal size are all like 1378465.Spectre:2,S
[18:43] <kaili> It's the :2,S which is not normal
[18:44] <nacc> kaili: i think that's a normal Maildir suffix?
[18:44] <Random832> https://serverfault.com/questions/435325/whats-the-meaning-of-suffixes-that-procmail-assigns-to-mail-filenames
[18:44] <kaili> Well I don't know if that's normal for evolution....
[18:44] <Random832> ok, you said this was NTFS right?
[18:44] <EriC^^> kaili: try to recover the file using "C" or "c"
[18:45] <ducasse> kaili: did you make an image of the stick before starting this?
[18:45] <Random832> i think your problem might be that filenames with : in them are not normal in NTFS
[18:46] <kaili> ducasse: yes
[18:46] <Random832> if you make a copy of this on a normal (not NTFS or FAT) filesystem, and delete all the empty filenames that don't have the suffix, it might work normally
[18:46] <kaili> EriC^^: the saved file doesn't show up
[18:46] <sinyu> 哈囉
[18:46] <Random832> !cn | sinyu
[18:46] <EriC^^> kaili: does it say copied successfully?
[18:46] <kaili> Yes
[18:46] <Random832> where did it copy it to?
[18:46] <sinyu> hello
[18:48] <kaili> Sorry I spoke too fast, thef ile did show up !
[18:49] <kaili> 1492786337.8419_5.Spectre_2,S of size 103ko
[18:49] <Random832> kaili, the :2,S is a normal suffix for maildir filenames, you might need to delete the empty files for evolution to be able to see them.
[18:49] <kaili> So if I remove the _2,S evolution should be able to read them right ?
[18:49] <Random832> ...and not rename them to _2,S - are you recovering these directly on the NTFS disk and not copying them to your linux disk?
[18:49] <kaili> Random832: testdisk renamed it on its own
[18:49] <kaili> it wasn't me
[18:49] <Random832> ok
[18:50] <Random832> but i'd assume it would only do that if you're recovering directly to the NTFS disk
[18:50] <Random832> anyway you should probably move/copy the whole thing to a non-NTFS/FAT disk
[18:50] <Random832> then rename all the _2,S (or whatever) files back to :2,S
[18:50] <Random832> and then delete all the empty files
[18:50] <kaili> The question is : do I need to remove the suffix or not ?
[18:50] <kaili> oh I see
[18:51] <Random832> i *think* it needs the suffix - it might only need it to know that the message has been read
[18:51] <Guest525> ducasse: Tried kernel 4.11.0-041100rc8, no luck I think, hanging on "Loading initial ramdisk ..."
[18:51] <Random832> in the future you should probably make a tar.gz file of your mail directory instead of directly copying the whole thing to an NTFS drive
[18:52] <kaili> Yes I got my lesson haha
[18:52] <kaili> It's because I always did that with thunderbird and never had a problem
[18:52] <kaili> But thunderbird is cross plateform so maybe it's a different setup
[18:54] <freiza> how to set DVI-I-1 resolution in nvidia-xconfig
[18:54] <ducasse> Guest525: ok, that was the best suggestion i had, sorry.
[18:55] <kaili> brb going to try to open them with evolution :x
[18:56] <Guest525> ducasse: Thanks, this is the relevant bug by the way https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1671360
[18:58] <Guest525> Hmmm, weirdly some people report success with 16.04 there, but I have the problem with 16.04 and 17.04.
[18:59] <Guest525> Ah, nvm, they used optical media, not sure why it matters.... but yeah, I was trying from USB.
[18:59] <ducasse> Guest525: could be a problem with the usb controller chipset
[19:04] <Guest525> ducasse: Hmm, someone says they got 4.11.0-rc6 working with only the pinctrl-amd option different from default.
[19:08] <capum321> hello
[19:08] <capum321> what browser works on low ram foorprint and backward compatible with 14.04?
[19:09] <ikonia> define low ram footprint
[19:09] <capum321> little ram usage
[19:09] <capum321> RAM as in memory
[19:09] <ikonia> define how low
[19:10] <capum321> i have 2 GB RAM
[19:10] <ikonia> thats fine for something like lubuntu or xubuntu with firefox
[19:11] <capum321> turns out gnome web isn't backward compatible
[19:11] <ikonia> thats not what I said
[19:11] <capum321> i see
[19:12] <stripe> exit
[19:13] <Bashing-om> !info dillo trusty
[19:15] <capum321> Bashing-om: I have dillo
[19:15] <capum321> is not working in some aspects
[19:16] <ikonia> capum321: what version of ubuntu are you actually running (with what desktop)
[19:16] <paulcrown> I need a fresh set of eyes. With ufw enabled, mailserver receives no emails, see iptables http://paste.ubuntu.com/24455883/  With ufw disabled, all works, see iptables http://paste.ubuntu.com/24455884/
[19:17] <ikonia> paulcrown: f2b-postfix-sasl  tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             multiport dports smtp
[19:17] <capum321> ikonia: 14.04 i told you
[19:17] <capum321> ikonia: lxde-core
[19:17] <ikonia> capum321: again READ what I said
[19:17] <ikonia> capum321: ok - so you're using lubuntu 14.04 ?
[19:17] <capum321> no
[19:17] <ikonia> explain exactly what you are using
[19:17] <capum321> i used a minimal iso
[19:18] <ikonia> capum321: so what's the problem with firefox
[19:18] <paulcrown> ikonia: with ufw disabled f2b-postfix-sasl works as expected
[19:19] <ikonia> paulcrown: right, you're dropping postfix ports
[19:19] <ikonia> paulcrown: then when you disable ufw you're not dropping postfix ports
[19:21] <capum321> ikonia: last time I check it consume almost all my RAM. i am trying to run other apps along
[19:21] <ikonia> capum321: it seems very unlikley that a single tab of firefox would consume most of your 2GB when you are running a light distro build from lxde
[19:23] <capum321> maybe i will try midori
[19:24] <ikonia> yeah, best to just randomly stab at things rather than look at either your missunderstanding, or the fact there will be an underlying problem if firefox is taking up 2gb of ram
[19:24] <Bashing-om> capum321: Is there a problem with resource management ? As unused ram is wasted ram . It is there to be used .
[19:25] <ikonia> Bashing-om: nah, lets just try midori
[19:25] <capum321> it doesn't even opens
[19:25] <ikonia> capum321: what doesn't
[19:25] <capum321> midori
[19:25] <capum321> it crashed
[19:26] <ikonia> capum321: do you want an honest solution to try to get a working desktop environment
[19:26] <Bashing-om> ikonia: capum321 I lurk and learn :)
[19:26] <ikonia> Bashing-om: you'll learn little from this interaction sadly
[19:26] <ash_workz> why would I suddenly get 'Read-only file system' when I try to write something?
[19:26] <ikonia> ash_workz: disk / file system failure event
[19:26] <ducasse> ash_workz: see dmesg
[19:27] <ash_workz> '[36390816.756620] ERROR: (device sdc1): DT_GETPAGE: dtree page corrupt'
[19:27] <capum321> you are not right at this point
[19:27] <ikonia> capum321: not right about what ?
[19:28] <capum321> but you said something can be true the desktop is not functional
[19:28] <ikonia> capum321: the desktop will work just fine
[19:28] <ikonia> I suspect you have screwed up because of using the minimal install
[19:28] <ikonia> capum321: just do a standard lubuntu install from the lubuntu ISO, and try to use it, see how the resource is for you doing everything you want
[19:28] <ikonia> then if you have a prolem - come back and ask
[19:30] <ash_workz> can you scp to your own user but use sudo to get files?
[19:30] <ash_workz> somehow
[19:30] <capum321> ikonia it's not like that. all other software are operating. except broswer streaming
[19:30] <ikonia> capum321: streaming....
[19:31] <ikonia> capum321: it feels like that
[19:31] <nacc> ash_workz: maybe rephrase, your question reads ... confusingly right now
[19:32] <capum321> what?
[19:34] <gimpy936> ash_workz: you mean so you invoke sudo on the remote end?  I'm not aware of how scp can do it but rsync can do it by telling it your ssh program is 'sudo ssh' ... but you need to tweak sudo on the other end too (set NOPASSWD and some tty setting I forget)
[19:35] <ikonia> why would you sudo ssh
[19:35] <ikonia> that just launchs the ssh binary as the root user
[19:36] <jerichowasahoax> gimpy936: that doesn't sudo on the remote end, that sudos on the local end and attempts to ssh as root
[19:36] <jerichowasahoax> gimpy936: if that actually works for you, that's a big security hole you need to fix
[19:37] <nacc> ash_workz: i think what you were asking for, though, is sudo scp <some files> user@host:/path/to/write ?
[19:37] <nacc> ash_workz: but you would only need that if you needed sudo to *read* the files locally
[19:37] <jerichowasahoax> i usually invoke sudo remotely with: ssh -t hostname.example.net "sudo some_command"
[19:38] <nacc> ash_workz: all speculation so far, and you've stopped responding... :)
[19:38] <jerichowasahoax> (the -t makes it allocate a tty so it can ask for the password)
[19:38] <gimpy936> jerichowasahoax: nope, you can have it just sudo on the remote end and run as a non-priv user locally ... it's not a security hole, it's just something rsync can do
[19:39] <rizonz> tgm4883: mhh nothing about preseed
[19:39] <jerichowasahoax> gimpy936: is this an rsync parameter? i need to double check the man page
[19:39] <nacc> jerichowasahoax: iirc, rsync can be told any command is 'ssh'
[19:39] <gimpy936> jerichowasahoax: nacc is right ... to be fair, it's hacky but you can make it work
[19:40] <jerichowasahoax> nacc: ok, but how does changing the local ssh command invoke sudo on the remote end?
[19:40] <nacc> jerichowasahoax: if you make 'ssh' be 'ssh -t $host sudo $cmd'
[19:40] <nacc> jerichowasahoax: then you are forcing every ssh command to be run with sudo on the remote
[19:40] <jerichowasahoax> nacc: that makes more sense than setting it to "sudo ssh"
[19:40] <nacc> jerichowasahoax: I *think* that's the claim
[19:41] <nacc> substituting the right things to make rsync happy that was pseudoshell :)
[19:41] <jerichowasahoax> nacc: i'm under the impression that you have to enclose the command in quotes when ssh is run that way, but i could be wrong
[19:42] <ash_workz> sorry, it was a dumb question
[19:42] <nacc> jerichowasahoax: in some ways, that'd be no different than alias ssh='/usr/bin/ssh ...' and run rsync
[19:42] <nacc> jerichowasahoax: it's just rysnc let's you specify it just to rsync
[19:42] <nacc> jerichowasahoax: yeah, probably :)
[19:42] <nacc> jerichowasahoax: was more of a gist than a working example
[19:42] <ash_workz> I thought that files I normally have to access with sudo would be denied if I connected to scp from my regular account
[19:43] <nacc> ash_workz: it's still super unclear what you're saying
[19:43] <nacc> ash_workz: but as long as you thjink the question was dumb and retract it, we can move on :)
[19:43] <ash_workz> like `scp -r ash-m@host:/etc etc` <-- I thought that I would get 'permission denied' errors
[19:43] <nacc> ash_workz: in the future, it's good to define where the users you are referring to are e.g. (user1 on host1)
[19:44] <nacc> ash_workz: as long as ash-m has read on 'host' and current user has write on ., then it won't
[19:44] <ash_workz> so it would seem :P
[19:45] <sklarr> I just updated to 17.04 and everything has internet connection except my browsers and vpn
[19:45] <sklarr> what's going on?
[19:46] <sklarr> can't seem to find anything relating to this online
[19:47] <jerichowasahoax> sklarr: bad proxy settings?
[19:47] <sklarr> but wouldn't that prevent IRC, and telegram, etc from connecting as well
[19:48] <jerichowasahoax> only if they were bad system proxy settings
[19:48] <sklarr> jerichowasahoax:
[19:48] <sklarr> jerichowasahoax: I did a complete removal on web browsers and reinstall
[19:48] <sklarr> did not work.
[19:48] <jerichowasahoax> sklarr: including removing their configuration from your home directory?
[19:49] <sklarr> I've never had to do anything proxy related before for connection..
[19:49] <sklarr> I didn't do that.. will try that
[19:49] <BluesKaj> sklarr, so apt update and upgrade woek
[19:49] <Bashing-om> sklarr: Mybe see if this : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2358660 applies . How to no connectivity Ubuntu DNS problem [fix]
[19:50] <sklarr> BluesKaj: yes, apt-get update works
[19:50] <sklarr> just tried it
[19:50] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:01] <motte> guten Abend
[20:03] <kaili> I recovered all my mails & data. Thanks to Random832 EriC^^ and ducasse
[20:03] <kaili> Testdisk is a really nice tool
[20:06] <ash_workz> when using rsync can you exclude a whole directory (ie: /path/to/directory/) but using --exclude='directory/*' ?
[20:08] <paulcrown> ikonia: I couldn't believe that f2b-postfix-sasl was disabled just because I disable ufw; so to test, I disabled postfix-sasl all together.  If I enable ufw again, no emails.  See http://paste.ubuntu.com/24456141/
[20:10] <ycyclist> It used to be, in the olden days when many of us could use Gnome rather than Unity, there were virtual desktops.
[20:10] <ash_workz> or I guess it's relative to the source directory? `rsync --exclude='foo' /home/ash-m ./ash-m` would exclude /home/ash-m/foo right?
[20:10] <ycyclist> Have those really gone away?  They are really handy.
[20:12] <ycyclist> I don't want compiz.  I just want a simple index window.
[20:12] <nrml1> anyone know the way to statically set the nodev flag on /run?
[20:14] <delzo> hi for all
[20:17] <xangua> ycyclist: mate is a gnome 2 fork
[20:20] <Jaden_Korr> Could anyone tell me how I can get rid LXD/LXC including all the dependencies they pulled in? Looks like SSH is an option during install, but a whole container virtualisation environment with multiple daemons and network bridges is not.
[20:24] <pavlos> Jaden_Korr: use dpkg -l | grep lxd and then purge with dpkg --purge lxd ... repeat for all others
[20:29] <ycyclist> Ok.  Thank you.
[20:32] <__Yiota> I'm trying to automate user addition with a blank password, is this possible via adduser?
[20:32] <Bashing-om> ycyclist: I have not messed about with gnome, but xfce has the ability to enable additional virtual desktops .
[20:33] <ycyclist> It sounds like we get Gnome soon.  I'll be glad when it's back.  Many of us were very inconvenienced by the move to Unity and the maintenance delays on Gnome.
[20:35] <ChaiTRex> __Yiota: You'll probably need to use `sudo passwd -d user`.
[20:35] <__Yiota> nah, I can do it with useradd
[20:35] <__Yiota> thx though
[20:36] <Koleon> Hello guys, a basic question - what is better way to block incoming traffic: "iptables -A INPUT -j DROP" or "iptables -P INPUT DROP"??
[20:37] <KaiForce> Koleon: I've seen the former more often, but I use shorewall if I really want to configure iptables
[20:38] <Koleon> KaiForce: Alright, thank you. So they seems to be equivalent, though?
[20:39] <karanlearnsmakes> hi i am using ubuntu 14.04
[20:39] <karanlearnsmakes> when i try to install xi-gtk it tells me that gtk > 3.18
[20:39] <karanlearnsmakes> is needed
[20:39] <karanlearnsmakes> how do i just upgrade gtk+ to 3.18
[20:40] <karanlearnsmakes> with ubuntu 14.04
[20:40] <karanlearnsmakes> i searched online but answers told me to upgrade ubuntu itself
[20:40] <xangua> Are you installing this software outside of repositiries¿ karanlearnsmakes
[20:40] <KaiForce> Koleon: I believe they will functionally do the same thing
[20:41] <karanlearnsmakes> to install xi-gtk i do - git clone https://github.com/eyelash/xi-gtk.git cd xi-gtk mkdir build cd build meson .. ninja
[20:42] <karanlearnsmakes> git clone ,cd , meson , ninja
[20:42] <xangua> karanlearnsmakes: then yes you need to upgrade Ubuntu itself
[20:42] <IronDev> Can someone help me out with a graphics prob
[20:42] <karanlearnsmakes> ok - so i tried to upgrade ubuntu
[20:42] <Jaden_Korr> pavlos: Thanks. Seems that that is the only option, i just saw that lxd and snapd are Recommended deps of the ubuntu-server metapackage and are not in a tasksel task
[20:43] <kostkon> karanlearnsmakes, and what happened?
[20:43] <karanlearnsmakes> 143 packages are going to be removed. 804 new packages are going to  be installed. 2051 packages are going to be upgraded.   You have to download a total of 1,668 M. This download will take  about 3 hours 41 minutes with your connection.
[20:43] <karanlearnsmakes> :)
[20:43] <karanlearnsmakes> 4 hours is estimated
[20:43] <karanlearnsmakes> how do i reduce this time.
[20:43] <karanlearnsmakes> i gotta sleep too man :)
[20:43] <KaiForce> add more pigeons to your internet connection
[20:43] <pavlos> Jaden_Korr: I use locate <something> then sudo updatedb and do the locate again till I have every file removed from my system.
[20:44] <IronDev> karanlearnsmakes: What is ur internet speed?
[20:44] <Koleon> KaiForce: OK, thanks once again. :) Btw, I'm struggling with connection via ssh to host with rules: Chain INPUT (DROP) and with -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT. Chain OUTPUT (DROP) -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 22 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT. Unlucky I cannot connect to the remote host. Don't you have any idea please?
[20:46] <karanlearnsmakes> speedtest.net says 14 mbps
[20:47] <IronDev> karanlearnsmakes Shouldnt take that long
[20:47] <karanlearnsmakes> ok
[20:47] <karanlearnsmakes> so is there an option to skip some packages
[20:47] <karanlearnsmakes> most of the stuff i have installed is not needed now by me
[20:48] <karanlearnsmakes> when i upgrade ubuntu from 14.04 - can i skip some packages
[20:48] <howudodat> any iptables experts here?  I have a simple rules question
[20:49] <IronDev> karanlearnsmakes I don't really know about that
[20:51] <pierre_> hello everybody
[20:51] <KaiForce> Koleon: shorewall is my answer to that.
[20:51] <pierre_> can somebody help me with xmlstarlet
[20:51] <Koleon> KaiForce: I see. I'll check it out. Thanks
[20:51] <pierre_> please
[20:51] <karanlearnsmakes> thanks irc
[20:52] <pierre_> my xml input is here: https://pastebin.com/x4TViXsE
[20:52] <pierre_> I try to query all the nodes under connections where attribute name =*_conn
[20:53] <pierre_> tried the following: xmlstarlet sel -t -c "/project/connections/connection[@name='*_conn']" sampleJson.xml but it does not return anything
[20:55] <Artem> Is there a way to use remmina rdp and have openconnect auto start a vpn?
[20:56] <Artem> Id like to RDP into a offsite computer and have the connection start a VPN connection. Anyone have an idea on how to do this?
[21:20] <dawid> #Rizon
[21:21] <dawid> hello
[21:21] <dawid> how I can join another channel>
[21:21] <dawid> which command should I type?
[21:21] <oldschool^> /join
[21:21] <oldschool^> /join #chan
[21:22] <dawid> thanks very much
[21:22] <dawid> have a nice day//night
[21:30] <darkseid4nk> question: what port does aptitude use to fetch hash sums? when i am using a shared internet connection, i can do pretty much everything except fetch hash sums with aptitude.
[21:30] <darkseid4nk> can ping, can ssh out, etc.
[21:31] <ikonia> 80 / 443
[21:32] <ikonia> it's just a http service
[21:36] <morsnowski> darkseid4nk: i had that issue and using another DNS server fixed that, don't ask me why though
[21:38] <jonfen> i have a lenovo thinkpad yoga X1 running 17.04 and when i first start the computer i have the option of using the touchscreen keyboard to login unity.  but after that the lock screen doesn't give the touchscreen keyboard option.
[21:38] <darkseid4nk> weird. same dns server right to the router and it worked. if its coming from my laptop shared internet then it doesnt work.
[21:38] <wstlnd> howdy
[21:39] <wstlnd> howdy oerias
[21:40] <wstlnd> howdy
[21:41] <Jello_Raptor_> What channel should I use if I need help making a patch to an existing package? (I have the patch, but for the life of me can't figure out why `bzr builddeb` isn't making a .dsc file)
[21:41] <OERIAS> hey wstlnd
[22:07] <Guest5409> hello
[22:08] <Guest5409> I need to reset my 2FA device
[22:08] <Guest5409> for login.ubuntu.com
[22:09] <Guest5409> does anyone monitor these threads?
[22:09] <dax> Guest5409: #ubuntu is for community support, we don't handle Canonical infrastructure issues. See https://forms.canonical.com/sso-support/
[22:10] <Guest5409> @dax Yeah, the FAQ directed me to #isd, but no one is there
[22:10] <Guest5409> Is there more to it?
[22:12] <dax> #isd isn't a channel on freenode, it may be one on Canonical's internal IRC service.
[22:12] <dax> there's a contact form on the page I linked, and there is also isd-support@canonical.com
[22:13] <dax> ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSO/FAQs/2FA#Help )
[22:19] <MFD36> Need a bit of input iam running Ubuntu 16.04 LTR should i upgrade to i think its 17.04 is there pros for upgrading or just stay with what i have.
[22:20] <prepp> Upgrading is not guaranteed success. Have backups and be prepared to reinstall
[22:20] <MFD36> Ok thanks.
[22:20] <Bashing-om> MFD36: What is your motivation to deviate from a LTS release ?
[22:21] <MFD36> None really sounds stupid just did not know if there was some new great thing with the new one.
[22:23] <nacc> MFD36: most likely reason (other than being a developer or just wanting to toy around) to be on non-LTS is hardware support, but that's why !hwe exists
[22:23] <Bashing-om> MFD36: Better support for newer hardware in 17.04 .
[22:23] <MFD36> i like 16.04 but am willing to look at better things if out there.
[22:23] <nacc> MFD36: that statement "better things" is too vague to be answerable
[22:23] <MFD36> ok i understand
[22:24] <MFD36> yes sorry it was i trust u know a lot more than i do so for now i will stay were iam at thanks
[22:27] <kostkon> MFD36, when did you install 16.04? You can always do the hwe upgrade if it applies to you, but even that is not a guaranteed success, although it's a simpler and more straightforward process.
[22:28] <MFD36> Ok thanks for the info
[22:28] <kostkon> !hwe
[22:39] <Some_Person> On my computer, there is a rather long delay between logging in and connecting to the network (using ethernet). Why is this?
[22:40] <PMantis13> hello everyone
[22:40] <PMantis13> just installed ubuntu, but didn't know I would have trouble with AMD gpu
[22:41] <Some_Person> It connects right away if I go to the menu and select "Wired connection 1"
[22:41] <Some_Person> but is incredibly slow at doing that automatically
[22:41] <PMantis13> anyone knows how to get my current installed driver?
[22:42] <tgm4883> Some_Person: this is really shoestring information. Multiple NICs? Wireless on the machine too? Is it trying to use a different network profile when you login?
[22:42] <tgm4883> !details | PMantis13
[22:42] <Some_Person> It has wireless, but the wireless is disabled automatically when the system is docked (which it is in this case)
[22:42] <Alumin> OK, clearly I'm missing something obvious and will kick myself once I figure out what's going on, but...I'm trying to change my shell and it won't "take".  I can see the new shell listed in /etc/passwd, it's in /etc/shells, but when I log in I still just get BASH.
[22:42] <Some_Person> "Wi-Fi is disabled by hardware switch"
[22:43] <Ben64> Alumin: have you tried turning it off and then on again
[22:43] <Alumin> yes!
[22:43] <Alumin> I logged out and back in twice :)
[22:44] <Some_Person> The same thing seems to happen when I undock, which causes it to automatically switch to wifi, and then dock again. There's a long delay before it connects to ethernet again
[22:44] <Ben64> Alumin: what shell you trying to go to?
[22:44] <Alumin> Zsh
[22:44] <Some_Person> even though I can do it immediately from the menu
[22:44] <PMantis13> I have a R9 280 GPU card, but there is no driver for Ubuntu on AMD's official driver page for this one. Is there any other way I can update it? I've seen the 'sudo apt-get install fglrx', but it fails saying "E: Package 'fglrx' has no installation candidate"
[22:44] <nacc> PMantis13: fglrx no longer exists
[22:44] <tgm4883> PMantis13: what version of Ubuntu
[22:44] <Ben64> Alumin: "sudo usermod -s $(which zsh)" ??
[22:44] <nacc> PMantis13: only on 14.04 (and 12.04 for a while)
[22:45] <PMantis13> I'm on 16.04
[22:45] <Alumin> Ben64: I don't want to just change it manually, these systems are being deployed using config management tooling
[22:45] <Ben64> Alumin: you should explain more then
[22:45] <rizonz> why is there still use :80 in the sources.list ?
[22:45] <Alumin> well, I guess the real question is how does the login process determine which shell to run, other than the field in /etc/passwd?
[22:46] <Alumin> 'cause in there it says /usr/bin/zsh
[22:46] <Ben64> Alumin: that's why i'm asking for more info, because that's it
[22:47] <nacc> rizonz: your question is unparseable, but the string ":80" does not appear in /etc/apt/sources.list by default.
[22:47] <Alumin> yeah, that's how I've always understood it.  I don't even know what other information I could give
[22:47] <Alumin> I'm logging in and getting a shell other than the one listed in passwd
[22:47] <Ben64> logging in how
[22:47] <Some_Person> Unfortunately it's a pain in the butt to search for this issue. It's also a pain in the butt because I have a script that runs on login that needs network
[22:47] <Alumin> SSH
[22:48] <Some_Person> I also seem to be the only one in the office with this issue
[22:48] <Alumin> let's see if I can at leat prove it's Ansible-related, I'll change it with usermod and see if that even sticks
[22:48] <tgm4883> Alumin: that's always a good idea
[22:49] <Alumin> nope.  And when I ran it, it said "usermod: no changes"
[22:50] <Alumin> curioser and curioser
[22:50] <Ben64> something else is going on then
[22:50] <Alumin> "grep -ir bash /etc/pam.d"  heh
[22:50] <Alumin> no results :)
[22:51] <Some_Person> Any ideas?
[22:51] <rizonz> nacc: I see a ot of port 80 set for the repos, I still wonder why
[22:51] <nacc> rizonz: that's not the default, are you still using your local repo?
[22:51] <tgm4883> Alumin: have you thought of using '/bin/zsh'  since that seems to be the right path
[22:51] <Alumin> that's what I used first
[22:52] <rizonz> nacc: I know it from the past and my provisioning setup get's it from somewhere, I'm not sure yet from where
[22:52] <nacc> rizonz: sounds like a bug in your provisioning setup
[22:52] <M`aR`k> join #farmos
[22:53] <M`aR`k> Missed a /, however you should join #farmos, lol.  If you like gardening and farming and what not.
[22:53] <ikonia> M`aR`k: no thanks, please don't advertise
[22:53] <rizonz> nacc: yeah but the source doesn't show it... will file a bugreport
[22:54] <Alumin> it's not related to Zsh it looks like, 'cause when I change my shell to dash that doesn't take either
[22:54] <tgm4883> Alumin: zsh works fine here only changing it in passwd
[22:54] <Alumin> yeah, it should
[22:55] <Some_Person> I need to figure out why there's a long delay before my laptop connects to the network on startup. Wi-Fi is disabled in hardware, and the connection is ethernet. It connects immediately if I go to the menu and select "Wired connection 1", but takes like a couple minutes if I let it happen automatically.
[22:55] <ikonia> Some_Person: remove the boot splash and watch the network come up
[22:55] <Alumin> ok here's an interesting twist
[22:56] <Some_Person> ikonia: How do I do that?
[22:56] <rizonz> for local repo's do we need to add main restriced, etc for d-i apt-setup/local0/repository string ?
[22:56] <Alumin> if I su to my own username, I get the right shell
[22:56] <rizonz> I'm not following that
[22:56] <ikonia> Some_Person: just hit tab or esc when you see the ubuntu bootsplash
[22:56] <Some_Person> Okay, hold on
[22:57] <CrazyLikeAFox> So, I'm trying to copy some files from the hard disk of my old laptop to this one, without changing anything on the old drive.
[22:57] <rizonz> seems so
[22:57] <CrazyLikeAFox> It fails due to no permission though
[22:57] <tgm4883> CrazyLikeAFox: use sudo
[22:58] <CrazyLikeAFox> tgm4883: If I do is as root, won't root be the owner of all the copies of the files?
[22:58] <Alumin> CrazyLikeAFox: you could use sudo, run rsync -avP
[22:58] <Alumin> that'll preserve your ownerships
[22:59] <nacc> rizonz: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[22:59] <tgm4883> the ownerships would still be wrong though
[22:59] <tgm4883> CrazyLikeAFox: what are you trying to copy
[22:59] <Alumin> not to mention make it easy to pick up where you left off if the transfer dies
[22:59] <nacc> rizonz: afaict, if you are using a local repository, you must proivde the string exactly as you want it
[22:59] <CrazyLikeAFox> well, I used a different username this time than I have been using
[22:59] <CrazyLikeAFox> tgm4883: the entire contents of a hard disk onto this computer
[22:59] <CrazyLikeAFox> So, this is the first time I've had this issue
[23:00] <rizonz> nacc: yeah I'm comparing it to the default ones, gonna kick a new server and see what happens
[23:00] <tgm4883> CrazyLikeAFox: the entire contents? Is this is OS drive?
[23:00] <CrazyLikeAFox> yes, and yes
[23:00] <tgm4883> CrazyLikeAFox: clone and resize?
[23:01] <CrazyLikeAFox> er, I was going more for dump all the files, one folder for each partition's root, in a folder in my /home
[23:03] <CrazyLikeAFox> you know, permissions shouldn't matter since any file that's actually of interest should be owned by me/the equivlent on the old system
[23:04] <CrazyLikeAFox> I just need to resursivly set them as such after the copy
[23:05] <Alumin> so, something's different about the login process you get with SSH, 'cause when I log in at the console I get the right shell
[23:06] <Alumin> lemme check sshd_config for that elusive DontAllowUsersToChangeShells option
[23:06] <CrazyLikeAFox> hrm, it failed with thunar as root as well
[23:06] <CrazyLikeAFox> this is interesting
[23:07] <CrazyLikeAFox> "Error opening directory '/media/cooper/System/etc/ssl/private'." "Permission denied."
[23:09] <gsilva> CrazyLikeAFox, are you running your commands with sudo?
[23:09] <gsilva> That worked for me, regardless of the user
[23:10] <CrazyLikeAFox> yes
[23:11] <CrazyLikeAFox> That folder and the single file in it, ssl-cert-snakeoil.key fail every time
[23:11] <CrazyLikeAFox> I seem to have access to other stuff in /etc/ssl
[23:12] <gsilva> I have a machine with 3 users and when I need stuff inside the other two users folder, I have to use sudo and it usually works (lets say I'm master of it)
[23:19] <Alumin> I figured it out. :)  When I logged out and back in and still got BASH, that was weird, but I blamed Ansible.  When I ran "su" to my own username and got the right shell, that was _really_ weird, but I blamed SSH.  Then I ssh-ed to localhost and got the right shell, and that's when things reached WTF levels of weirdness.
[23:20] <Alumin> turns out I out-clevered myself, heh
[23:20] <Alumin> when you are using SSH connection multiplexing ("ControlMaster" and friends), your subsequent connections are all still being made to the same, persistent, server-side SSH process...which has never restarted to pick up the change in /etc/shells
[23:21] <Alumin> so, you know, PEBCAK as usual
[23:21] <Alumin> just thought y'all might get a kick out of hearing the solution :)
[23:23] <CrazyLikeAFox> nevermind, I figure out what I was doing wrong
[23:24] <CrazyLikeAFox> I still don't remember how to take ownership of all the files after I copy them though :S
[23:24] <OY1R> i'm trying to install ubuntu 1604, i have mint installed before hand. Ubuntu is installed but i never get any boot options for mint and ubuntu
[23:25] <CrazyLikeAFox> Which OS is trying to boot?
[23:25] <OY1R> mint boots
[23:26] <CrazyLikeAFox> sounds like grub didn't get updated when ubuntu got installed
[23:55] <spetznaz_> what a small world... i got some simple ubuntu problem here guys, my ubuntu eventually hang for a couple of hours
[23:56] <spetznaz_> and still i cant resolve my pipebomb
[23:58] <spetznaz_> are there any humans here?
[23:59] <maddawg2> humans? where
[23:59] <maddawg2> i eat humans