| ilzolende | pestering you because #ubuntu seems to be in the middle of something: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone doesn't seem to give much photo importing advice | 06:14 |
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| xangua | There's basically 3 options with iOS devices, you just the last bleeding Ubuntu, you hold iOS updates or don't use iOS at all | 06:22 |
| ilzolende | it's my friend's ios device and i can't retroactively make her downgrade it | 06:22 |
| ilzolende | hmm, we could use bluetooth file transfer | 06:23 |
| ilzolende | oooor not | 06:24 |
| justanotheruser | hi all, how do i get 1920x1080 over VGA? i get [ 49.101] (II) fglrx(0): Cannot get EDID information for CRT1 | 06:44 |
| justanotheruser | thats at the end of the Xorg log | 06:45 |
| justanotheruser | also the other thing is, xubuntu ()14.04 is damn slow especially after running like 10hrs | 06:45 |
| justanotheruser | it comes to a crawl, and even freeze | 06:45 |
| justanotheruser | running fglrx here | 06:46 |
| pmjdebruijn | sounds like something worth investigating | 06:46 |
| justanotheruser | but somehow i dont see that this is related with the video card, its a seperate issue i think | 06:46 |
| pmjdebruijn | I ran fglrx a while ago, for me it caused crashes | 06:46 |
| justanotheruser | i mean the slow running thing | 06:46 |
| justanotheruser | then again it might be | 06:47 |
| justanotheruser | gpu is 5850, CPu running a quad core xeon | 06:47 |
| justanotheruser | with 4gb ram | 06:47 |
| pmjdebruijn | doesn't really matter | 06:47 |
| pmjdebruijn | something is just misbehaving | 06:47 |
| pmjdebruijn | when your system is getting so slow | 06:47 |
| pmjdebruijn | try running top | 06:47 |
| pmjdebruijn | and see if anything is pulling a lot of cpu usage | 06:47 |
| justanotheruser | yeah i believe that too, it just starts to get sluggish after a while and then dead slow | 06:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | especially if you left some apps long running | 06:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | like browsers etc | 06:48 |
| justanotheruser | running chrome, | 06:48 |
| justanotheruser | but also tried it with brave | 06:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | does quitting chrome solve the sluggisnish? | 06:48 |
| justanotheruser | same thing | 06:48 |
| justanotheruser | no it does not | 06:48 |
| justanotheruser | thats the first thing i thought off | 06:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | also chrome or chromium? | 06:48 |
| justanotheruser | but quiting browser and then even logging out and back in does not solve it | 06:49 |
| pmjdebruijn | generally speaking i'd mostly stick to software in there repos | 06:49 |
| pmjdebruijn | justanotheruser: have you tried the open source radeon driver as opposed to fglrx | 06:49 |
| justanotheruser | yeah the confusion i have is about those amd drivers | 06:49 |
| pmjdebruijn | since fglrx isn't that great | 06:49 |
| justanotheruser | i wanna run wine with dx11 support | 06:49 |
| pmjdebruijn | but that's true for most binary blobs drivers | 06:49 |
| pmjdebruijn | justanotheruser: first see what fglrx is the issue, then worry about what to do next | 06:50 |
| justanotheruser | as much as i understand the "radeon" driver does not support dx11 | 06:50 |
| pmjdebruijn | for troubleshooting it does not matter | 06:50 |
| justanotheruser | so what to do? | 06:50 |
| justanotheruser | any ideas? | 06:50 |
| justanotheruser | i dont even know where to begin lol | 06:51 |
| pmjdebruijn | just uninstall fglrx | 06:51 |
| justanotheruser | and replace with radeon? | 06:51 |
| pmjdebruijn | yeah | 06:51 |
| pmjdebruijn | if the issue disappears, then fglrx is the culprit | 06:52 |
| justanotheruser | also what is that amdgpu open source driver im so confused | 06:52 |
| pmjdebruijn | if you uninstall fglrx, it should automatically fall back on what ever driver is needed | 06:52 |
| pmjdebruijn | if all goes well, there no need for you to worry about that | 06:52 |
| justanotheruser | will the installation for the radeon driver suffice, trough the settings menu>>additional drivers? | 06:52 |
| pmjdebruijn | at least that's what I recall from back when I used fglrx | 06:52 |
| pmjdebruijn | justanotheruser: the others drivers are already installed | 06:53 |
| justanotheruser | or doi have to manually purge fgrlx? | 06:53 |
| pmjdebruijn | probably removing flgrx | 06:53 |
| pmjdebruijn | but I don't have _that_ much experience with the blob driver | 06:53 |
| pmjdebruijn | stick around, maybe someone else has a better idea | 06:53 |
| justanotheruser | the other thing is, there is fglrz and fglrx udate as choice | 06:54 |
| justanotheruser | the other thing is, there is fglrx and fglrx udate as choice* | 06:54 |
| justanotheruser | also any idea how i can force 1920x1080 on the display connected via VGA_? | 06:54 |
| justanotheruser | i tried checking but all i found is, in threads "solved" i bought an HDMI cable, thats not what i want lol | 06:55 |
| justanotheruser | ok well i installed the open source driver now, will try to restart for now and see what happens. | 06:57 |
| justanotheruser | damn now im getting "Purging configuration files for fglrx (2:15.201.2-0ubuntu0.14.04.1) ... update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/atieventsd exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) dpkg: error processing package fglrx (--purge): subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" | 07:06 |
| justanotheruser | why? | 07:06 |
| justanotheruser | nvm "sudo apt-get purge fglrx*" seems to do the trick | 07:07 |
| pmjdebruijn | yeah blob drivers tend to be a bit of a mess | 07:08 |
| justanotheruser | will have to reboot again, brb | 07:08 |
| justanotheruser_ | so.. purging fglrx worked, it runs now ith the radeon driver, the question however is now, how do i get the 2nd display working, its at 1024x768 atm with the fglrx i got at least 1600x1200 its over VGA connected, and it can do 1920x1080 | 07:13 |
| justanotheruser_ | can i set somehwere the resolution manually via terminal? i guess yes, just dont know where, xorg.conf is not the place, at least not in /etc/X11 | 07:16 |
| pmjdebruijn | I don't think VGA supports 1920x1080 | 07:16 |
| justanotheruser_ | well i have not this computer also "hackintosh running" and it works on there | 07:16 |
| pmjdebruijn | at least not officially | 07:16 |
| justanotheruser_ | i have on* | 07:16 |
| justanotheruser_ | where are the settings stored? | 07:17 |
| pmjdebruijn | there a read-edid and edid-decode pacakge that might provide some insight | 07:17 |
| justanotheruser_ | yeah but the radeon driver does not give me even the 1600x1080 that i have had before with the fglrx driver | 07:18 |
| justanotheruser_ | so i wonder where does the open source driver save the settings | 07:18 |
| pmjdebruijn | it doesn't | 07:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | by default everything is just on auto detect | 07:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | which depends on EDID | 07:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | which is why I pointed you to those packages | 07:20 |
| pmjdebruijn | as it can decode it for you | 07:20 |
| justanotheruser_ | will have to look into that then never worked with EDID | 07:20 |
| justanotheruser_ | thx for pointing me there | 07:20 |
| justanotheruser_ | hrmm even i run the radeon driver it wont solve the problem that i will not be able to run dx11 games/apps with it | 07:28 |
| justanotheruser_ | is there another driver that runs with my HD5850 beside the fglrx and the radeon driver? | 07:29 |
| justanotheruser_ | that i could try | 07:29 |
| justanotheruser_ | because i recall seeing mentionings about a driver called amdgpu open source but im confused, it sounds like it is the same as radeon but some other threads seem to talk its something seperate | 07:30 |
| justanotheruser_ | and i cant seem to find it to install for xubuntu 14.04 | 07:31 |
| pmjdebruijn | also keep in mind that 14.04 is becoming a bit dated now | 07:31 |
| pmjdebruijn | for all you know this issue may have already been resolved in 16.04 | 07:31 |
| pmjdebruijn | oh wait | 07:31 |
| pmjdebruijn | ATI stopped updating fglrx for newer distros, didn't they | 07:32 |
| justanotheruser_ | yeah but the problem is that 16,04 runs a 4x kernel where the fglrx does not work and i need a proprietary driver to run playonlinux/steam/sto | 07:32 |
| pmjdebruijn | have you tried 16.04 with the opensource drivers? | 07:34 |
| pmjdebruijn | typically you lose some performance though | 07:34 |
| justanotheruser_ | yes i tried, | 07:34 |
| justanotheruser_ | i cant start the game with the kernel | 07:35 |
| justanotheruser_ | it gives an error msg | 07:35 |
| pmjdebruijn | anyhow | 07:35 |
| justanotheruser_ | because wine 2.3 does not load dx11 | 07:35 |
| pmjdebruijn | to be honest gaming via wine always seemed like a fragile proposition | 07:36 |
| pmjdebruijn | I'm sorry I don't have any better ideas for you | 07:36 |
| justanotheruser_ | i apriciate the time and tips you had so far, no need to apologize | 07:36 |
| justanotheruser_ | i guess i will go back to fglrx, but i still dont understand the difference between fglrx and fglrx-update | 07:37 |
| pmjdebruijn | try sticking with the open source drivers for a day or so | 07:37 |
| pmjdebruijn | so you at least know if the sluggishness issues are the fglrx driver | 07:37 |
| pmjdebruijn | then at least you don't need to look any further | 07:38 |
| justanotheruser_ | you mean to see if the performance drag down is caused by the driver? | 07:38 |
| justanotheruser_ | yeah good idea, will do that | 07:38 |
| justanotheruser_ | well it does seem snappier then before ,. so far | 07:40 |
| === redblade is now known as redblade7 | ||
| bonsaitree | Has someone succeeded in making Viber work on Xubuntu? | 11:01 |
| bazhang | what is viber | 11:08 |
| cfhowlett | bonsaitree, install the per the site, it's been tested on ubuntu and fedora. choose one. | 11:09 |
| bonsaitree | cfhowlett, This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" | 11:15 |
| bonsaitree | in "". | 11:15 |
| bonsaitree | . How do i install this plugin? | 11:15 |
| pmjdebruijn | doesn't the viper package have proper dependancies? | 11:16 |
| pmjdebruijn | sudo apt-get install -f | 11:16 |
| pmjdebruijn | does that do anything? | 11:16 |
| cfhowlett | pmjdebruijn, nope. not in the repos, so may/may not function properly | 11:16 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn,No changes after running that command | 11:16 |
| cfhowlett | bonsaitree, sounds like something you should ask the publisher. | 11:17 |
| pmjdebruijn | libqt5gui5:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so | 11:18 |
| pmjdebruijn | I do have that file on 16.04 | 11:18 |
| bonsaitree | The thing is i've managed to make Viber to work under Xubuntu somehow ~ 8-9 months ago. But the thing that is the most likely that i have done, is not doing the trick now | 11:18 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, I do have it here: /opt/viber/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so | 11:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | does QT_QPA_PLATFORM_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms /opt/viber/viber work? | 11:19 |
| pmjdebruijn | or whatever it is installed | 11:20 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, With the second 'viber' you are referring to the executable? | 11:22 |
| pmjdebruijn | indeed | 11:23 |
| pmjdebruijn | it's just the full path to the executable | 11:24 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24453688/ | 11:24 |
| pmjdebruijn | yeah sorry no clue | 11:25 |
| pmjdebruijn | crappy applications is exceptionally crappy | 11:25 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, When all your friends are using it, you are trying to make it work under your OS .. | 11:26 |
| pmjdebruijn | don't they have a web version? | 11:26 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, I think no | 11:26 |
| pmjdebruijn | bonsaitree: I would suggest asking about this in a knowledge specific channel, like for Qt for example | 11:27 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, What is the channel name? Thanks btw | 11:27 |
| pmjdebruijn | no clue | 11:28 |
| pmjdebruijn | did you try #qt ? | 11:28 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, Yeah, that's the channel | 11:28 |
| pmjdebruijn | if you find a solution, it would be a nice topic for a blog-post kinda thing, so others can find the solution | 11:29 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, Yup, and it's very clever to write the fixes down, because after actively using Linux as a main os for 2 years, i start to get many deja-vus :D | 11:32 |
| flocculant | bonsaitree: when you saut it doesn't start - do you mean at all? because grabbing the package and installing it on 17.04 (though updated to 17.10) installs and starts fine - removed it now. That said I have some other qt4/5 apps installed AND some -dev packages. As pmjdebruijn says you likely need to talk elsewhere - you could try #ubuntu more eyes there, maybe someone is more likely to use it | 11:34 |
| flocculant | s/when you saut/when you say | 11:34 |
| pmjdebruijn | bonsaitree: for running commercial apps, running 16.04 tends to work better, since vendors often test on that version | 11:35 |
| flocculant | pmjdebruijn: that ^^ | 11:35 |
| pmjdebruijn | but in the end it varies from vendor to vendor of course | 11:35 |
| flocculant | it says it is tested - very likely that means LTS | 11:35 |
| bonsaitree | flocculant:When i click the Viber icon it says: "Failed to execute command "viber"". Failed to execute child process "viber" (No such file or directory). | 11:37 |
| flocculant | bonsaitree: then you have local issues - didn't even install any dependencies here - as I said try #ubuntu | 11:37 |
| bonsaitree | flocculant, I've followed a web help page which states that you should edit the /usr/share/applications/viber.desktop, adding 2 lines: Exec=viber | 11:38 |
| bonsaitree | Path=/opt/viber | 11:38 |
| flocculant | good luck | 11:38 |
| bonsaitree | flocculant, The guys at #ubuntu are awesome, but they did not like to help me with Viber, i have also been told to not talk about Viber at all | 11:39 |
| bonsaitree | flocculant, Thanks | 11:39 |
| bazhang | fully updated to 17.10 would be quite the treat | 11:42 |
| cfhowlett | trick? or treat? | 11:43 |
| bazhang | still no toolchain afaict | 11:43 |
| pmjdebruijn | bonsaitree: not everybody likes to hear about commercial software being broken | 11:48 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, :D | 11:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | keep in mind that #ubuntu and #xubuntu and Ubuntu and XUbuntu support channels | 11:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | not Viber support channels | 11:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | and you are actually wanting Viber support, technically speaking | 11:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | with the #ubuntu channel being often very busy, it's sometimes a matter of keeping the signal to noise ratio higher | 11:49 |
| pmjdebruijn | so I can understand where they are coming from | 11:49 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, Yup, i agree | 11:50 |
| bonsaitree | Okay, how do i do a full update to 17.10? | 11:59 |
| bonsaitree | (the internet is full of different commands for a distro update so i don't know which one to use) | 12:00 |
| cfhowlett | bonsaitree, jump in time machine. go to October 2017 when it's released. download and install. | 12:00 |
| cfhowlett | OR ... use the current supported versions and wait - patiently - for 17.10 | 12:01 |
| bonsaitree | Well, someone broke the laws of physics: <flocculant> bonsaitree: when you saut it doesn't start - do you mean at all? because grabbing the package and installing it on 17.04 (though updated to 17.10) installs and starts fine - removed it now. | 12:01 |
| bonsaitree | cfhowlett, Or 17.04 anyway :) Which command to use? | 12:02 |
| pmjdebruijn | huh | 12:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | I thought you were already on 17.04 | 12:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | uhm | 12:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | 17.10 | 12:03 |
| cfhowlett | !17.10 | 12:04 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) will be the 27th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released in October 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 | 12:04 |
| pmjdebruijn | oh doh | 12:04 |
| pmjdebruijn | of course | 12:04 |
| bonsaitree | pmjdebruijn, I am on 16.04.2 atm | 12:06 |
| pmjdebruijn | ooooh :s | 12:06 |
| === Israphel_ is now known as Israphel | ||
| v3n0m | Arch Linux vs Ubuntu? Which is fast? | 15:22 |
| rud0lf | somebody asking on ubuntu channel which distro they like the most :) | 15:28 |
| akxwi-dave | TOS version 2.04 | 15:37 |
| sim642 | My upgraded xubuntu still locks screen with xscreensaver, how do I change that to lightlocker? | 15:38 |
| GridCube | remove xscreensaver | 15:39 |
| sim642 | Oh, I didn't expect it to automagically pick up the other one | 15:41 |
| sim642 | After upgrading to 16.04 some icons in the indicator panel seem to be cropped to size, not scaled | 16:07 |
| sim642 | Any idea about that? | 16:07 |
| GridCube | sim642: it's possible it hasn't had reset properly, i'd just rename the ~/.config/xfce4 folder and let it respawn in the next login | 16:14 |
| sim642 | doesn't that contain some other custom configuration though? | 16:17 |
| === rud0lf_france is now known as rud0lf | ||
| v3n0m | Arch linux vs ubuntu speed comparison? | 19:21 |
| xangua | Ubuntu has the community, Arch the speed, but xfce is pretty snappy in any distro you choose | 20:18 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | So, trying to copy my last laptop's hard disk onto here, without changing the source any. It's failing due to no read permission. | 21:24 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | Can I copy it as root and have it not mess with permissions? | 21:24 |
| === TheRedQueen is now known as Drone` | ||
| bonsaitree | I don't know if others have reported this, but there is a video driver glitch in Xubuntu. I think its because of the kernel, since it started appearing after i updated to 4.8 kernel, although i was on 16.04.2 back then (3-4 days ago). However, it is present on 17.04 too. The glitch is that when you are alt+tab-ing or when you are doing something dynamic (browser scrolling, watching a video, etc), there is a trapezoid-like line (like a varying | 22:33 |
| bonsaitree | voltage level lol) that is appearing on the middle of the screen. That was present in the past too, but it was a single line and it wasn't noticeable. Now it's trapezoid-alike and it's annoying, like it cuts through whatever dynamic you are doing/watching. | 22:33 |
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