[06:14] pestering you because #ubuntu seems to be in the middle of something: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone doesn't seem to give much photo importing advice [06:22] There's basically 3 options with iOS devices, you just the last bleeding Ubuntu, you hold iOS updates or don't use iOS at all [06:22] it's my friend's ios device and i can't retroactively make her downgrade it [06:23] hmm, we could use bluetooth file transfer [06:24] oooor not [06:44] hi all, how do i get 1920x1080 over VGA? i get [ 49.101] (II) fglrx(0): Cannot get EDID information for CRT1 [06:45] thats at the end of the Xorg log [06:45] also the other thing is, xubuntu ()14.04 is damn slow especially after running like 10hrs [06:45] it comes to a crawl, and even freeze [06:46] running fglrx here [06:46] sounds like something worth investigating [06:46] but somehow i dont see that this is related with the video card, its a seperate issue i think [06:46] I ran fglrx a while ago, for me it caused crashes [06:46] i mean the slow running thing [06:47] then again it might be [06:47] gpu is 5850, CPu running a quad core xeon [06:47] with 4gb ram [06:47] doesn't really matter [06:47] something is just misbehaving [06:47] when your system is getting so slow [06:47] try running top [06:47] and see if anything is pulling a lot of cpu usage [06:48] yeah i believe that too, it just starts to get sluggish after a while and then dead slow [06:48] especially if you left some apps long running [06:48] like browsers etc [06:48] running chrome, [06:48] but also tried it with brave [06:48] does quitting chrome solve the sluggisnish? [06:48] same thing [06:48] no it does not [06:48] thats the first thing i thought off [06:48] also chrome or chromium? [06:49] but quiting browser and then even logging out and back in does not solve it [06:49] generally speaking i'd mostly stick to software in there repos [06:49] justanotheruser: have you tried the open source radeon driver as opposed to fglrx [06:49] yeah the confusion i have is about those amd drivers [06:49] since fglrx isn't that great [06:49] i wanna run wine with dx11 support [06:49] but that's true for most binary blobs drivers [06:50] justanotheruser: first see what fglrx is the issue, then worry about what to do next [06:50] as much as i understand the "radeon" driver does not support dx11 [06:50] for troubleshooting it does not matter [06:50] so what to do? [06:50] any ideas? [06:51] i dont even know where to begin lol [06:51] just uninstall fglrx [06:51] and replace with radeon? [06:51] yeah [06:52] if the issue disappears, then fglrx is the culprit [06:52] also what is that amdgpu open source driver im so confused [06:52] if you uninstall fglrx, it should automatically fall back on what ever driver is needed [06:52] if all goes well, there no need for you to worry about that [06:52] will the installation for the radeon driver suffice, trough the settings menu>>additional drivers? [06:52] at least that's what I recall from back when I used fglrx [06:53] justanotheruser: the others drivers are already installed [06:53] or doi have to manually purge fgrlx? [06:53] probably removing flgrx [06:53] but I don't have _that_ much experience with the blob driver [06:53] stick around, maybe someone else has a better idea [06:54] the other thing is, there is fglrz and fglrx udate as choice [06:54] the other thing is, there is fglrx and fglrx udate as choice* [06:54] also any idea how i can force 1920x1080 on the display connected via VGA_? [06:55] i tried checking but all i found is, in threads "solved" i bought an HDMI cable, thats not what i want lol [06:57] ok well i installed the open source driver now, will try to restart for now and see what happens. [07:06] damn now im getting "Purging configuration files for fglrx (2:15.201.2-0ubuntu0.14.04.1) ... update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/atieventsd exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) dpkg: error processing package fglrx (--purge): subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [07:06] why? [07:07] nvm "sudo apt-get purge fglrx*" seems to do the trick [07:08] yeah blob drivers tend to be a bit of a mess [07:08] will have to reboot again, brb [07:13] so.. purging fglrx worked, it runs now ith the radeon driver, the question however is now, how do i get the 2nd display working, its at 1024x768 atm with the fglrx i got at least 1600x1200 its over VGA connected, and it can do 1920x1080 [07:16] can i set somehwere the resolution manually via terminal? i guess yes, just dont know where, xorg.conf is not the place, at least not in /etc/X11 [07:16] I don't think VGA supports 1920x1080 [07:16] well i have not this computer also "hackintosh running" and it works on there [07:16] at least not officially [07:16] i have on* [07:17] where are the settings stored? [07:17] there a read-edid and edid-decode pacakge that might provide some insight [07:18] yeah but the radeon driver does not give me even the 1600x1080 that i have had before with the fglrx driver [07:18] so i wonder where does the open source driver save the settings [07:19] it doesn't [07:19] by default everything is just on auto detect [07:19] which depends on EDID [07:20] which is why I pointed you to those packages [07:20] as it can decode it for you [07:20] will have to look into that then never worked with EDID [07:20] thx for pointing me there [07:28] hrmm even i run the radeon driver it wont solve the problem that i will not be able to run dx11 games/apps with it [07:29] is there another driver that runs with my HD5850 beside the fglrx and the radeon driver? [07:29] that i could try [07:30] because i recall seeing mentionings about a driver called amdgpu open source but im confused, it sounds like it is the same as radeon but some other threads seem to talk its something seperate [07:31] and i cant seem to find it to install for xubuntu 14.04 [07:31] also keep in mind that 14.04 is becoming a bit dated now [07:31] for all you know this issue may have already been resolved in 16.04 [07:31] oh wait [07:32] ATI stopped updating fglrx for newer distros, didn't they [07:32] yeah but the problem is that 16,04 runs a 4x kernel where the fglrx does not work and i need a proprietary driver to run playonlinux/steam/sto [07:34] have you tried 16.04 with the opensource drivers? [07:34] typically you lose some performance though [07:34] yes i tried, [07:35] i cant start the game with the kernel [07:35] it gives an error msg [07:35] anyhow [07:35] because wine 2.3 does not load dx11 [07:36] to be honest gaming via wine always seemed like a fragile proposition [07:36] I'm sorry I don't have any better ideas for you [07:36] i apriciate the time and tips you had so far, no need to apologize [07:37] i guess i will go back to fglrx, but i still dont understand the difference between fglrx and fglrx-update [07:37] try sticking with the open source drivers for a day or so [07:37] so you at least know if the sluggishness issues are the fglrx driver [07:38] then at least you don't need to look any further [07:38] you mean to see if the performance drag down is caused by the driver? [07:38] yeah good idea, will do that [07:40] well it does seem snappier then before ,. so far === redblade is now known as redblade7 [11:01] Has someone succeeded in making Viber work on Xubuntu? [11:08] what is viber [11:09] bonsaitree, install the per the site, it's been tested on ubuntu and fedora. choose one. [11:15] cfhowlett, This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" [11:15] in "". [11:15] . How do i install this plugin? [11:16] doesn't the viper package have proper dependancies? [11:16] sudo apt-get install -f [11:16] does that do anything? [11:16] pmjdebruijn, nope. not in the repos, so may/may not function properly [11:16] pmjdebruijn,No changes after running that command [11:17] bonsaitree, sounds like something you should ask the publisher. [11:18] libqt5gui5:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so [11:18] I do have that file on 16.04 [11:18] The thing is i've managed to make Viber to work under Xubuntu somehow ~ 8-9 months ago. But the thing that is the most likely that i have done, is not doing the trick now [11:19] pmjdebruijn, I do have it here: /opt/viber/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so [11:19] does QT_QPA_PLATFORM_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms /opt/viber/viber work? [11:20] or whatever it is installed [11:22] pmjdebruijn, With the second 'viber' you are referring to the executable? [11:23] indeed [11:24] it's just the full path to the executable [11:24] pmjdebruijn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24453688/ [11:25] yeah sorry no clue [11:25] crappy applications is exceptionally crappy [11:26] pmjdebruijn, When all your friends are using it, you are trying to make it work under your OS .. [11:26] don't they have a web version? [11:26] pmjdebruijn, I think no [11:27] bonsaitree: I would suggest asking about this in a knowledge specific channel, like for Qt for example [11:27] pmjdebruijn, What is the channel name? Thanks btw [11:28] no clue [11:28] did you try #qt ? [11:28] pmjdebruijn, Yeah, that's the channel [11:29] if you find a solution, it would be a nice topic for a blog-post kinda thing, so others can find the solution [11:32] pmjdebruijn, Yup, and it's very clever to write the fixes down, because after actively using Linux as a main os for 2 years, i start to get many deja-vus :D [11:34] bonsaitree: when you saut it doesn't start - do you mean at all? because grabbing the package and installing it on 17.04 (though updated to 17.10) installs and starts fine - removed it now. That said I have some other qt4/5 apps installed AND some -dev packages. As pmjdebruijn says you likely need to talk elsewhere - you could try #ubuntu more eyes there, maybe someone is more likely to use it [11:34] s/when you saut/when you say [11:35] bonsaitree: for running commercial apps, running 16.04 tends to work better, since vendors often test on that version [11:35] pmjdebruijn: that ^^ [11:35] but in the end it varies from vendor to vendor of course [11:35] it says it is tested - very likely that means LTS [11:37] flocculant:When i click the Viber icon it says: "Failed to execute command "viber"". Failed to execute child process "viber" (No such file or directory). [11:37] bonsaitree: then you have local issues - didn't even install any dependencies here - as I said try #ubuntu [11:38] flocculant, I've followed a web help page which states that you should edit the /usr/share/applications/viber.desktop, adding 2 lines: Exec=viber [11:38] Path=/opt/viber [11:38] good luck [11:39] flocculant, The guys at #ubuntu are awesome, but they did not like to help me with Viber, i have also been told to not talk about Viber at all [11:39] flocculant, Thanks [11:42] fully updated to 17.10 would be quite the treat [11:43] trick? or treat? [11:43] still no toolchain afaict [11:48] bonsaitree: not everybody likes to hear about commercial software being broken [11:48] pmjdebruijn, :D [11:48] keep in mind that #ubuntu and #xubuntu and Ubuntu and XUbuntu support channels [11:48] not Viber support channels [11:48] and you are actually wanting Viber support, technically speaking [11:49] with the #ubuntu channel being often very busy, it's sometimes a matter of keeping the signal to noise ratio higher [11:49] so I can understand where they are coming from [11:50] pmjdebruijn, Yup, i agree [11:59] Okay, how do i do a full update to 17.10? [12:00] (the internet is full of different commands for a distro update so i don't know which one to use) [12:00] bonsaitree, jump in time machine. go to October 2017 when it's released. download and install. [12:01] OR ... use the current supported versions and wait - patiently - for 17.10 [12:01] Well, someone broke the laws of physics: bonsaitree: when you saut it doesn't start - do you mean at all? because grabbing the package and installing it on 17.04 (though updated to 17.10) installs and starts fine - removed it now. [12:02] cfhowlett, Or 17.04 anyway :) Which command to use? [12:03] huh [12:03] I thought you were already on 17.04 [12:03] uhm [12:03] 17.10 [12:04] !17.10 [12:04] Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) will be the 27th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released in October 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 [12:04] oh doh [12:04] of course [12:06] pmjdebruijn, I am on 16.04.2 atm [12:06] ooooh :s === Israphel_ is now known as Israphel [15:22] Arch Linux vs Ubuntu? Which is fast? [15:28] somebody asking on ubuntu channel which distro they like the most :) [15:37] TOS version 2.04 [15:38] My upgraded xubuntu still locks screen with xscreensaver, how do I change that to lightlocker? [15:39] remove xscreensaver [15:41] Oh, I didn't expect it to automagically pick up the other one [16:07] After upgrading to 16.04 some icons in the indicator panel seem to be cropped to size, not scaled [16:07] Any idea about that? [16:14] sim642: it's possible it hasn't had reset properly, i'd just rename the ~/.config/xfce4 folder and let it respawn in the next login [16:17] doesn't that contain some other custom configuration though? === rud0lf_france is now known as rud0lf [19:21] Arch linux vs ubuntu speed comparison? [20:18] Ubuntu has the community, Arch the speed, but xfce is pretty snappy in any distro you choose [21:24] So, trying to copy my last laptop's hard disk onto here, without changing the source any. It's failing due to no read permission. [21:24] Can I copy it as root and have it not mess with permissions? === TheRedQueen is now known as Drone` [22:33] I don't know if others have reported this, but there is a video driver glitch in Xubuntu. I think its because of the kernel, since it started appearing after i updated to 4.8 kernel, although i was on 16.04.2 back then (3-4 days ago). However, it is present on 17.04 too. The glitch is that when you are alt+tab-ing or when you are doing something dynamic (browser scrolling, watching a video, etc), there is a trapezoid-like line (like a varying [22:33] voltage level lol) that is appearing on the middle of the screen. That was present in the past too, but it was a single line and it wasn't noticeable. Now it's trapezoid-alike and it's annoying, like it cuts through whatever dynamic you are doing/watching.