[00:55] <wallyworld> axw: builders etc on 1.8 now. i tried to merge the earlier ec2 error status related PR and fater an intitial bot issue, it's run with some test failures; i haven't looked in detail; a few url parsing things etc
[00:56] <axw> wallyworld: yeah thanks, I'm merging develop into the feature branch - I think that should fix those failures
[00:56] <wallyworld> sgtm
[00:56] <wallyworld> i forgot that was on the fb
[00:56] <wallyworld> hence it won't have the 1.8 test fixes
[01:21] <seyeongkim> hello, any news about https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1616704 ?
[01:21] <mup> Bug #1616704: juju restore-backup does not complete <backup-restore> <cpe> <juju:Triaged by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1616704>
[01:25] <wallyworld> seyeongkim: no news as yet as far as I know. there's a performance issue there, but no update yet
[01:25] <seyeongkim> thanks wallyworld
[01:27] <wallyworld> seyeongkim: there's a comment on bug 1680683 which maybe related. i suspect there's a couple of underlying issues that need to be addressed. some work has already been done as indicated in the comment, but there's still more to do
[01:27] <mup> Bug #1680683: Poor "juju create-backup" performance <canonical-is> <juju:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1680683>
[01:29] <seyeongkim> I see wallyworld
[02:32] <axw> babbageclunk: belated happy birthday :)
[02:32] <babbageclunk> axw: thanks!
[07:55] <wpk> anyone wants to review this small one? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7280
[08:30] <ashipika> good morning.. who has experience with the txn pruning?
[08:40] <wpk> jam: you're needed :)
[08:40] <wpk> axw: What about CpuPower?
[08:41] <wpk> 13ae680e4ac environs/manual/detection.go                     (Andrew Wilkins     2013-08-15 17:21:16 +0800 156)         // TODO(axw) calculate CpuPower. What algorithm do we use?
[08:41] <axw> wpk: I wouldn't worry about it, it's not as widely used as cpu-cores
[08:41] <axw> (AFAIK)
[08:42] <jam> ashipika: what's up?
[08:43] <ashipika> jam: txn cleanup failed.. error while iterating.. io timeout.. is it safe to retry?
[08:43] <jam> ashipika: what command were you running?
[08:44] <jam> it is generally ok, except you can't expect it to actually work the second time if it failed the first
[08:44] <ashipika> jam: we're migrating our DB.. and prunning txns.. so a custom command.. using the CleanAndPrune method in juju/txn
[08:44] <ashipika> jam: while would it time out, is my question..
[08:45] <jam> 'why would it time out' ?
[08:45] <jam> ashipika: migrating from what to what?
[08:45] <jam> ashipika: does this happen to be a mongo2.4 source using the CleanAndPrune that is in mgopurge 1.4?
[08:46] <jam> as there are fixes in juju/txn to handle mongo2.4 better
[09:33] <mwhudson> uh juju-core autopkgtests fail in artful: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-artful/artful/amd64/j/juju-core/20170426_074500_fee63@/log.gz
[09:33] <mwhudson> my read of that is that there is no jujud in the streams for artful?
[09:34] <mwhudson> but maybe not
[11:24] <rogpeppe> a rename of some types that were confusing me in juju: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7283
[11:24] <rogpeppe> review appreciated
[11:30] <rogpeppe> jam: fancy taking a look? ^
[11:31] <jam> rogpeppe: isn't there a separate 'cmd' package that isn't specific to Juju which is the reason we have CommandBase vs JujuCommandBase ?
[11:32] <rogpeppe> jam: not really
[11:32] <rogpeppe> jam: i mean, there *is* a separate cmd package
[11:32] <rogpeppe> jam: but modelcmd already has CommandBase
[11:32] <rogpeppe> jam: but the "Base" in that name implies something different from the "Base" in all the other type names
[11:34] <rogpeppe> jam: i've been trying to sort the whole picture out in my head, and wrote this summary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24459695/
[11:34] <rogpeppe> jam: where CommandBase is an evident anomaly
[11:35] <rogpeppe> jam: this PR is proposing changing that so it looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24459702/
[11:36] <rogpeppe> jam: FWIW I also think that sysCommandWrapper should probably be controllerCommandWrapper but that's less important
[11:52] <rogpeppe> jam: are you planning to review it or should I try to find someone else?
[11:52] <jam> sorry, I have to take my son to music for the next hour, it seems reasonably ok, as its just a mechanical change and i don't mind the names, but I haven't thought deeply about it yet
[11:54] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: axw: I've updated https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7265, PTAL :) would b nice to have it in for b3 \o/
[11:56] <rogpeppe> jam: ok, thanks
[11:56] <rogpeppe> anastasiamac, wallyworld, axw: any chance of a review of this mechanical rename PR, by any chance? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7283
[11:57] <anastasiamac> rogpeppe: m about to eod :D can b done tomorrow?
[11:57] <anastasiamac> rogpeppe: i mean, it's only 10pm here... but it's been a looong couple of days :)
[11:57] <rogpeppe> anastasiamac: i'd prefer to get it in today, but np
[11:58] <rogpeppe> anastasiamac: "only" 10pm!
[11:58] <rogpeppe> anastasiamac: stop working already! :)
[11:58] <anastasiamac> rogpeppe: :) if noone looks at it today, i'll do it tomorrow \o/
[11:58] <rogpeppe> anastasiamac: tyvm
[11:59] <rogpeppe> anastasiamac: do we still have on-call-reviewers, BTW?
[12:16] <rogpeppe> jam: thanks a lot
[14:17] <bdx> question concerning the `deploy` command
[14:18] <bdx> is this expected http://paste.ubuntu.com/24460316/ ?
[14:20] <jrwren> bdx: I think that it is, if nothing is yet placed on that machine.
[14:20] <bdx> jrwren: ok, thanks
[14:41] <wpk> Q: is it possible to have two API functions with the same name with different arguments/return values for different API versions? If so, is there an example?
[14:42] <wpk> (and if not, where could I find an example of API version-dependent call?)
[21:03] <babbageclunk> wpk: ping?
[21:55] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: busy?
[21:55] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: yeah, in meeting, will ping soon
[21:56] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: cool thanks
[22:19] <wallyworld> veebers: join release call now?
[22:20] <wallyworld> anastasiamac: ^^^^^
[22:20] <veebers> wallyworld: omw
[23:34] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: sorry, meeting finished and i forgot about you
[23:35] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: hey now!
[23:36] <wallyworld> did you want to talk?
[23:36] <babbageclunk> yes, please - just plugging some stuff back in.
[23:38] <wallyworld> righto
[23:38] <babbageclunk> in standup?
[23:41] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: wallyworldalso forgot about my nice, updated PR just for him :D
[23:41] <anastasiamac> wallyworld also *
[23:41] <wallyworld> no he didn't
[23:41] <wallyworld> it's been reviewed
[23:41] <anastasiamac> well, no he did not... :)