| m0nkey_ | daftykins: you watching louis? | 00:54 |
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| diddledan | https://twitter.com/richturn_ms/status/857036088099000320 | 00:59 |
| diddledan | ok, who killed the bot?! | 01:00 |
| diddledan | oh it's back already | 01:01 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:00 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:07 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Hug An Australian Day! 😃 🐨 | 08:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | just make sure they're not harbouring any poisonous native wildlife first... | 08:40 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G2lqY3Nuk0 | 08:40 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, no Aussie connection though? | 08:45 |
| JamesTait | Focus on the hugs. | 08:45 |
| JamesTait | Not necessarily a bad policy. | 08:45 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:45 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:45 |
| brobostigon | woops, | 08:45 |
| JamesTait | brobostigon, 👋 | 08:45 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: only cause Kylie didn't sing it | 08:46 |
| JamesTait | brobostigon, 👋 | 08:46 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:46 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 09:05 |
| brobostigon | morning | 09:06 |
| MooDoo | how are you brobostigon ? | 09:06 |
| brobostigon | not bad overall, just booked some theatre tickets for friday for me and my fiance, and you? | 09:07 |
| MooDoo | yeah not doing too bad, roll on friday, nice 3 day weekend :) | 09:08 |
| brobostigon | :) | 09:09 |
| foobarry | i totally forgot we had a bank holiday coming until my wife told me yesetrday | 11:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | which she will fill with diy tasks that have accumulated over winter... :-) | 11:40 |
| TwistedLucidity | As I don't get Bank Holidays, I didn't know about it either. Have now booked it off. | 11:42 |
| etheretic | rollback | 13:20 |
| etheretic | anyone use kubuntu? | 13:38 |
| foobarry | no but i got the t-shirt | 13:38 |
| etheretic | congratulations. | 13:39 |
| etheretic | foo> the system icons looks like a early-80's mac se (bw) desktop version | 13:40 |
| etheretic | plus a dash cyan here and there. | 13:41 |
| TwistedLucidity | etheretic: Me. But I don't have the default UI settings. | 13:51 |
| etheretic | TwistedLucidity, what icon set do you use? | 13:52 |
| TwistedLucidity | Crikey, err.... | 13:53 |
| TwistedLucidity | "Breeze", it seems. | 13:54 |
| TwistedLucidity | "Breeze" look and feel | 13:55 |
| TwistedLucidity | "Breeze Dark" desktop theme | 13:55 |
| TwistedLucidity | "Breeze" cursor theme | 13:55 |
| TwistedLucidity | So may well be more default than I thought | 13:56 |
| etheretic | in kde-ubuntu.. | 14:00 |
| TwistedLucidity | Aye, Kubuntu 1604 | 14:02 |
| TwistedLucidity | I might move to KDE Neon in a bit | 14:02 |
| etheretic | .. | 14:03 |
| etheretic | same bugger-ugly b/w system panel icons.. | 14:26 |
| etheretic | TwistedLucidity, no change after swapping to breeze dark. | 14:37 |
| daftykins | you might get more in #kubuntu or #ubuntu | 14:40 |
| TwistedLucidity | Most of my notification icons are in B&W, the rest are in colour | 14:42 |
| TwistedLucidity | Maybe I have some misconfiguration and it's working by fluke? | 14:43 |
| TwistedLucidity | Whilst I like how KDE looks, I have always found it a nightmare to configure. There seems to be little logic to categories and little documentation that explains things clearly | 14:44 |
| etheretic | u have a point there. | 14:44 |
| etheretic | using a 10 yr old sony vaio which chokes on cinnamon (looks better). | 14:45 |
| daftykins | xubuntu would be a better fit than KDE | 14:46 |
| daftykins | well, xfce - to use the right term | 14:46 |
| etheretic | as to system demands? | 14:46 |
| daftykins | yeah | 14:46 |
| etheretic | hm | 14:46 |
| daftykins | what are the specs though? the old idea that Linux props up old machines is becoming a myth | 14:47 |
| etheretic | at lerst k(ubuntu) plays movies without hiccups. | 14:47 |
| daftykins | err that shouldn't be relevant to any given DE | 14:48 |
| etheretic | 1gb ram, intel phoenix (?) cpu. especially firefox eat up swap space, paralyzes the machine. | 14:48 |
| etheretic | daftykins, fact here. watching movies with smplayer in cinnamon = hiccups, plasma not. | 14:50 |
| daftykins | Phoenix BIOS hehe, that's not a CPU. | 14:50 |
| daftykins | etheretic: yeah that's a default packages and drivers situation, not a DE one. | 14:50 |
| daftykins | simply a coincidence | 14:50 |
| daftykins | 1GB RAM i wouldn't even try to use anymore | 14:51 |
| etheretic | daftykins, ah right, used to use acorns so i was a bit off intel (brands) back then.. ;D | 14:51 |
| daftykins | haha i had acorns during school, '96 through 2000 | 14:51 |
| etheretic | "640k is enough for everybody." - Bill G. | 14:52 |
| etheretic | beautiful machines, the archimedeses and riscpcs. | 14:53 |
| daftykins | i think that quote is stupid, because everyone makes claims that are invalidated sooner or later | 14:53 |
| etheretic | lightspeed.. | 14:53 |
| foobarry | acorn user here too | 14:54 |
| etheretic | font anti-aliasing was a great boon back then. more or less wysiwyg. | 14:55 |
| etheretic | as opposed to windos/mac (then) | 14:56 |
| daftykins | not sure what methods you mean they used, subpixel rendering is what's used with LCD tech nowadays | 14:56 |
| etheretic | putting in greytones around the lines to make them look smooth. it worked/works. | 14:58 |
| etheretic | s/lines/curves | 14:58 |
| daftykins | i guess that's the old CRT approach, same deal with subpixel rendering except it makes use of the fractional pixels beside on LCDs | 14:59 |
| etheretic | but i'm still up the creek re. b&w system panel icons.. | 15:00 |
| daftykins | is it really worth trying to resolve when KDE on such a spec machine is a masochistic choice? | 15:00 |
| daftykins | i give away machines with 4GB RAM these days | 15:01 |
| etheretic | not sure there is space for xfce | 15:02 |
| diddledan | that quote is also silly because afaict nobody has proven he said ity | 15:02 |
| etheretic | on the hd *100gb( | 15:02 |
| daftykins | well don't put it on top, wipe it for xubuntu | 15:02 |
| daftykins | or just try a live session :> oh wait yeah 1GB RAM would suck even for a live session... | 15:02 |
| diddledan | AND, the 640KB wasn't a DOS limitation, it was a limitation on the 8086 CPU IIRC | 15:02 |
| daftykins | diddledan: heh that's amusing | 15:02 |
| diddledan | it wasn't until the 286 came along that PCs could address higher rams | 15:03 |
| etheretic | the very idea! | 15:03 |
| diddledan | I was looking into it a week or so ago because I fancied trying a homebrew ram card on my old PC1640 | 15:04 |
| diddledan | but that's an 8086 CPU so I believe it won't work | 15:04 |
| etheretic | b. g. visited acorn in camby early 80s, were shown an econet network, asked @\"what's a network?" that's innovation that is. | 15:04 |
| diddledan | heh, network wasn't a thing in microsoft's eyes until windows 3.11 and NT3.51 came along | 15:05 |
| diddledan | but netware beat them to the punch in the early years | 15:05 |
| diddledan | my college in 1999/2000 still used netware on XP clients!! | 15:06 |
| etheretic | they've always been plagiarizing tech. | 15:06 |
| daftykins | XP wasn't out 'til 2001 | 15:06 |
| diddledan | shush! | 15:06 |
| daftykins | diddledan, noted time traveller ;D | 15:07 |
| diddledan | :-p | 15:07 |
| diddledan | I wonder what we were using then, it was definitely not 9x/me | 15:07 |
| daftykins | heh i often imagine how neat it would be to travel back and demo some modern tech at a consumer electronics show | 15:07 |
| daftykins | blow their minds! | 15:07 |
| diddledan | and I'm sure it wasn't NT. must have been 2k? | 15:07 |
| daftykins | could be! | 15:08 |
| diddledan | daftykins: computershow! | 15:08 |
| daftykins | wat | 15:08 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDAs245Gu1JX0hy8MPgiKRQ | 15:08 |
| diddledan | lovely parody of the computer chronicles | 15:09 |
| diddledan | chronicals | 15:09 |
| diddledan | htf do you speeel that? | 15:09 |
| daftykins | chronicles | 15:09 |
| diddledan | it looks odd | 15:09 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:09 |
| etheretic | went to acorn user shows in harrogate/london in 97/98. very enlightening. 8) | 15:09 |
| diddledan | I had a school friend who avidly played on our tutor's BBC Micro in break time - his game of choice was chuckie egg | 15:10 |
| etheretic | microserfs :D | 15:10 |
| etheretic | diddledan, no elite? | 15:11 |
| diddledan | nah | 15:11 |
| diddledan | I used to play elite though, on my home PC | 15:11 |
| daftykins | wouldn't last 5 minutes now of course, "oh your OS is in ROM and you can't get security fixes? oh dear" | 15:11 |
| diddledan | I was bad | 15:11 |
| diddledan | daftykins: surely they just ship you the patchrom | 15:12 |
| etheretic | sec fixes are moot when you're rom'ed. | 15:12 |
| diddledan | roms on top of roms :-p | 15:12 |
| daftykins | er, no, no they're not :P | 15:12 |
| diddledan | they should design them to be stackable so that you can load a patchrom onto an earlier rom | 15:13 |
| etheretic | or use eproms | 15:13 |
| diddledan | and every 6 months they ship you a full replacement rom so you can lower the stack to one layer again | 15:13 |
| daftykins | but they're only capable of x flashes | 15:13 |
| diddledan | I'd hate to get a ROM virus | 15:14 |
| diddledan | imagine it - someone gives you a fake patchrom which loads malware instead | 15:14 |
| etheretic | oh ah. let's go optic/holographic with fractal compression and never look back. | 15:14 |
| diddledan | the compression is useless unless it's middle-out | 15:15 |
| diddledan | these guys invented the idea: http://www.piedpiper.com/ | 15:15 |
| etheretic | btw, any of you live in the Solent area? | 15:16 |
| diddledan | yup. amazingstoke. | 15:16 |
| etheretic | that close to hempschmire? | 15:16 |
| diddledan | right on the edge of the solent region, but still just about | 15:16 |
| etheretic | i'm in oslo btw. | 15:17 |
| daftykins | yesterday i had to fight .NET 4 onto a friends machine solely to run Brother's printer driver *installer* | 15:18 |
| diddledan | oh, just down the road | 15:18 |
| daftykins | they even wrapped up their files so you couldn't just extract and pinch the driver portion out | 15:18 |
| daftykins | evil! | 15:18 |
| diddledan | haha | 15:18 |
| diddledan | I mean, aww | 15:18 |
| etheretic | must go | 15:19 |
| daftykins | i first snagged Brother's firmware update tool, but it only functions if you have the printer installed | 15:20 |
| daftykins | you can't just point it to an IP... | 15:20 |
| cydia | loskey | 15:57 |
| === cydia is now known as Guest18488 | ||
| Guest18488 | hi | 15:58 |
| daftykins | lo | 15:58 |
| Guest18488 | lol | 15:58 |
| Guest18488 | asl? | 15:59 |
| daftykins | try a bit more of a grown up question | 15:59 |
| Guest18488 | alright | 15:59 |
| Guest18488 | where iam? | 16:00 |
| daftykins | the topic explains it well enough, plus you chose to come here | 16:00 |
| Guest18488 | are you on facebook? | 16:02 |
| TwistedLucidity | No, I'm on a chair | 16:02 |
| daftykins | Guest18488: either start making sense or leave | 16:05 |
| Guest18488 | the problem with somepeople............ | 16:06 |
| TwistedLucidity | Is they don't know which IRC channel they are on? | 16:07 |
| === Guest18488 is now known as jammm | ||
| jammm | Blah Blah Blah | 16:09 |
| jammm | remember to be nice to yourself too | 16:10 |
| foobarry | i see Guest* as the same as twitter egg avatars.. | 20:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | or someone locked in a battle of wits with their irc client and nickserv... #cueTrekFightingMusic | 20:54 |
| diddledan | da da dooo doooo dooooo diddledum | 20:56 |
| diddledan | https://www.thurrott.com/windows/109962/windows-bloated-thanks-adobes-extensible-metadata-platform | 21:04 |
| daftykins | y'linked that one t'other night :> | 21:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | it is interesting to see were metadata leads as we often hear governments claim that there's no harm in them collecting such tiny amounts of data... | 21:11 |
| daftykins | can only imagine the bit barn needed to hoard even that, mmm | 21:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | they store it in taxi cab net on usb drives they free from trade shows... the data constantly circling london waiting to be retrieved... | 21:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | brilliant... :-) https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/picture-this-senate-staffers-id-cards-have-photo-of-smart-chip-no-security/ | 21:27 |
| diddledan | interesting breakdown of how to program a character lcd: https://youtu.be/hZRL8luuPb8 | 23:20 |
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