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nsnzeromorning all05:43
theblazehenhi night07:03
theblazehennsnzero* 07:03
theblazehenoops07:03
Kilosmorning everyone10:03
theblazehenhi Kilos10:04
inetproMaaz: tell Kilos hi12:57
Maazinetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode12:57
theblazehenIf you need admin access to a web interface to exploit a vulnerability where you can get a root shell, is it even worth reporting?13:39
pavlushkaI guess no13:43
theblazehenThey probably wouldn't do anything about it anyway13:44
theblazehenWell, if anyone wants to install linux on their Netgear DGN2200 (and probably more) or D-Link DSL-* router, let me know13:44
pavlushkatheblazehen: lol, they are already running linux :p13:45
theblazehenpavlushka: I meant like in a chroot13:45
pavlushkaohk13:46
theblazehenLets say, linux in a useful form13:46
theblazehenNetgear and D-Link both have 64 MB RAM  13:49
LangjanGood day all14:28
LangjanHi Kilos 14:38
chesedotheblazehen: i would think it is worth reporting... isn't that a form of escalating priviliges14:46
theblazehenchesedo: Well, if you're an admin in the web interface you can configure firewall rules there etc, so you could mess with peoples traffic there. Can't think of anything else that you could do from the cli that you can legitimately do from the web interface. Basically, yes, but it's not like you can _do_ anything with the extra privileges14:57
chesedotheblazehen: how about setting up a backdoor for the day they fire you?15:02
* chesedo thinks that installing things like packet sniffers can also create other 15:11
chesedo'issues'15:11
Kiloshi Langjan 15:31
Kilosand hi inetpro 15:32
LangjanYou well kilos? Connection probs?15:33
Langjanhi inetpro 15:33
Kilossigh15:33
LangjanAi!15:34
Kilossorry for the part/joins15:34
Kilosnet sleg vandag15:34
LangjanArthritis?15:34
LangjanJy of jou konneksie?15:35
Kilosinternet15:35
LangjanOK so you ok?15:35
Kilosyes ty sir15:35
LangjanGood. I need some help plse15:36
Kilosok lets hear it15:36
Kilosmust be unity15:36
LangjanMy laptop 15:37
Langjannee man15:37
Kilosok15:37
Kiloshaha15:37
Langjanlmga15:37
Kilosok what isnt working15:37
Kilosor15:37
Kiloswhat did you break15:38
Langjanlol15:38
* Kilos listens carefully15:38
LangjanWifi connection - no applet to click to connect15:39
Kilosai!15:39
Kilosnetwork manager15:39
Kilosadd connection then choose wifi15:40
LangjanI found this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225119815:40
Langjanbut unable to locate package15:40
LangjanBeen to network manager lots15:41
Kiloslet me see what that says when it opens15:41
Kilosnm-applet missing15:43
Kiloshmm...15:43
Kilosrings a rusted bell somewhere15:43
LangjanNormally it will show a connection applet automatically15:43
KilosLangjan was it working before15:44
LangjanYes15:44
Kilosok so15:44
Langjanthen the wifi went dead15:44
Kiloswhat did you do or when did it disappear15:44
Langjanblue button15:44
Langjannothing15:44
Kilosno upgrade15:44
Langjanwhen I was on my trip15:45
Langjanno15:45
Kilosoh15:45
Kilostry sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop15:45
LangjanI eventually got the blue button to work again but it does not seem to see the wifi signal15:45
Kilosi dont know the apt reinstall command15:45
Langjanok15:45
Langjandont think I have aptitude there15:46
Kilosand in synaptic type in unity and right click reinstall everything that shows installed15:46
Kilosinstall it man15:46
LangjanIts not unity its lubuntu15:47
Kilosi use aptitude on 16.04 still and nothing has broken yet15:47
Kilosoh lubu ntu15:47
Kilosthen its lubuntu-desktop15:48
Langjanwhats the command to install aptitude plse?15:48
Kilos\otherwise you end with unity15:48
Kilossudo apt install aptitude15:48
Langjaninstalling15:48
Kiloslook in synaptic if there is a package called nm-applet15:49
Langjanlooking15:52
Kilosor also type in network and reinstall all you see that is installed15:52
Langjanno nm-applet15:53
Langjanok15:53
Kilosi dont see on that link where it is solved15:53
Kilosotherwise ask the guys at ##phillw. last time they helped with lubuntu15:55
Langjanwhat does it mean when theres a star in the check box?15:55
Kilosand failing that /J #lubuntu15:55
Kilosi see there are 72 lubuntu guys there15:56
Kilosnot sure how slow they are in responding15:56
Langjanok just going thro the list and marking for reinstall, theres lots15:56
Kilosyes15:57
Kiloshopefully the guilty one has had a patch added15:57
LangjanWhat are the stars?15:57
Kilosthats an old link so we could be lucky15:58
Kiloshuh????15:58
Kiloswhat stars15:58
Langjanstars in some check boxes15:58
Kilosright click one and see what it says15:59
Kilosyou have done a reload there right15:59
Kilosor a sudo apt update15:59
Kilosi go make coffee so long16:00
Langjanok enjoy16:01
Kilosany luck16:04
LangjanDownloading package files 30 s remaining16:04
Kilosah so many updates16:04
LangjanReinstalled all network packages16:05
Langjaninstalling software16:06
Langjanthen try update and upgrade and reboot?16:07
Kilossudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade16:08
Langjanja16:08
LangjanAll done, nothing shows up16:11
Kilosai!16:14
Kiloscan you add panels on lubuntu16:15
Kiloswhere is the launcher panel on it16:15
LangjanI have tried but dont see anything that matches16:15
LangjanLooks like gnome16:16
Kilosdid you choose default panel16:16
Langjanyes16:16
Kiloshmm...16:16
Kilosok16:16
Kiloswhere the icon was is there just a blank place there16:16
Langjanyes16:16
Kiloshover the mouse there16:17
Kiloswhat shows16:17
Langjannothing16:17
Kilosif you right click there?16:18
Langjanadd/remove panel items and panel setings , been there dont see anything16:18
Kilosthis is right where that icon is supposed to be right16:19
Kilosleft click it16:19
Langjanyes16:19
Kilosoh was the icon between other icons16:19
Kilosapplets i think they call them16:20
Langjanyes16:21
LangjanI find network connections but cannot get it to show. Die dom van ouder-dom16:21
Kilosand it now shows a blank in the same place16:21
LangjanWell its a mostly blank top panel16:22
Kilosand if you add a panel on the left right or top it shows the same16:22
Kilostry add a panel at the bottom16:23
Kilosoh why you using lubuntu16:23
LangjanI have put the panel at the top, can move it to the left, right or bottom16:23
LangjanLappie is too old, Ubuntu very sluggish16:23
Kilosah16:24
Kilosjoin #phillw16:24
Kilos  /j #phillw16:24
LangjanOnly one panel, it goes wherever you put it, so if it moves to the bottom nothing will change in contents16:24
Kilosoh you cant have three or 416:25
LangjanPerhaps but I have not tried16:25
Kilosi can have panels surrounding the whole screen16:25
Kilosyes man add an extra one16:25
Kilosnot fiddle with the one thats faulty16:26
LangjanWell the connection icon appeared in the current one for a long time so whats the point?16:26
Kilosif it shows then you remove the faulty one16:26
Kiloscurrent one is sick now right16:27
LangjanI dont think its the panel16:27
Langjanbut will see if I cnan get another one16:28
Kilosdont think just try16:28
Kilosmodern pcs dont work in sign language16:28
LangjanI will have to spend some time checking those options and settings, will chat later, time for dinner break. Thks so far.  16:35
Kilosenjoy16:35
Kilosyou always welcome16:35
LangjanThks16:35
Langjandankie16:35
LangjanBy the way my reason for doubting panel idea is I get soft blocked and hard blocked output in HP-gps settings16:37
Langjanthats if I run lspci vvnn grep (cannot do the vertical line) -A 9 Network16:38
LangjanSo network controller is blocked16:38
Langjanand ends with "access denied"16:39
Langjanat "capabilities"16:39
Kilosnow im lost16:39
Kilosmaybe the pro can help or the guys on #phillw16:39
LangjanSo am I, cheers for now16:39
Langjanwill try them16:40
Kiloshmm...16:40
Langjanif I can get thro hexchat16:40
Kilosmaybe you gotta be root16:40
Langjanrun lspc as sudo? 16:40
Kilosthen it cant deny you16:40
Kilosi should be here16:41
Kilosno man16:42
Kiloswhatever is saying access denied16:42
LangjanI ran as root then got different output but its Greek to me16:43
Kiloswait for pro 16:43
Kiloslol16:44
LangjanCrazy computers16:44
Kiloshear what pro says16:44
Kilosor give theblazehen some work16:44
Kilosor even paddatrapper or chesedo 16:45
Kilosyip16:45
Kilosonly crazy peeps can fix them16:45
Kilos\did you eat so fast?16:45
LangjanNee man ek moet nog gaan eet, daar roep vroutjie nou16:47
Kilosgaan16:47
Kilosold peeps are funny you know16:48
Kiloswhen you said you gonna eat i said enjoy16:48
Kilosyou said ty but didnt even go eat16:48
Kilosai!16:48
pavlushkalol16:49
Kiloslol16:49
smilehi everyone17:32
LangjanHi smile17:35
LangjanHi again kil17:35
LangjanKilos, 17:36
smileI got out of bed this morning and my head was already bursting with headaches :)17:36
LangjanAi! Are you drinking enough water, smile?17:37
smileNot sure :)17:37
smileA better question would be "are you sleeping enough"17:38
smileBut I don't know the answer to that either17:38
smileProbably not.17:38
smilehow're you, Langjan? 17:39
LangjanPerhaps. If you're drinking less water than 1,5 litres per day you are dehydrated17:39
Langjangood thks smile 17:39
LangjanKilos, you'll be happy to know I put  a panel at the bottom and have put network connection buttons there17:40
LangjanBUT17:40
Langjanthey first they said the connection is encrypted. Now they say it has no or limited connectivity. Right next to the router...17:42
Langjanyou there Kilos- ?17:59
LangjanI see you gotta tail...17:59
Kilos-yeah connection in and out sigh18:00
LangjanEish!18:00
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
LangjanOk I have the icon working but it says the network was encrypted. I have no idea how that came about or what the key is. 18:01
Kiloswow18:01
Kilosyou havent made an encrypted folder?18:01
LangjanI did the panel thing as you said18:02
Langjanno18:02
Kiloscryptkeeper18:02
chesedoLangjan: "...I put  a panel at the bottom" - what are you using these days?18:02
Langjanis that an ubuntu app? 18:02
Kilosbottom18:02
smileLangjan: then I'm dehydrated :p18:02
Kilosyes you can encrypt stuff18:02
Langjanhi chesedo I'm using Lubuntu on my laptop18:02
smilehi Kilos :)18:02
chesedooh i see18:03
Kiloshi smile chesedo 18:03
* chesedo smiles to smile.... and gives a wave18:03
Langjansmile, you need to drink 1,5 litres per day all on an empty stomacheb18:03
smilechesedo: likewise18:03
LangjanWhat is cryptkeeper? 18:04
smileLangjan: then I'll need to use the toilet too often :p18:04
Langjanchose between toilet and headaches18:04
KilosLangjan it encrypts files and folders so no one can open them unless they have the password18:04
Kilosand know to open cryptkeeper18:05
LangjanNot a difficult choice, smile. lmga!18:05
Kilosdont forget the password or you will cry and tell me you need to find stuff in there18:05
LangjanOK but how do I find the encryption key for this wireless network? 18:06
Kilosi have no idea18:06
smileLangjan: you would think so :p18:06
Kiloschesedo jump in please18:06
chesedoKilos: hmmm...18:08
chesedoLangjan: i am not sure of cryptkeepers use... but i guess that you never changed the default, which will be label somewhere on the access point18:09
chesedowill have*18:09
Langjanchesedo, by access point you mean the router?18:11
chesedoLangjan: mostly probably yes18:13
LangjanI don't understand how it could have become encrypted after it had been working for quite a while though18:17
LangjanWill the key not be visible in the router settings?18:22
LangjanThere is a password in there - is it a different key?18:23
LangjanI have tried all the keys I could find, no luck18:23
chesedoLangjan: if it says AP, access point or wireless password - then it is the wireless' password18:24
chesedotheblazehen: you ready for the news?18:24
pavlushkachesedo: yeah, he is ready, tell me.18:27
pavlushka:p18:27
chesedopavlushka: lol - talking about mini meeting's18:28
theblazehenchesedo: Don't have too much news, but yeah18:28
chesedotheblazehen: no worries, they are always great18:28
chesedotheblazehen: btw, do you know if the remaining lsd positions are still open18:28
theblazehenchesedo: Will need to check, @andrewlsd?18:29
chesedoandrewlsd: i am refering to the ones other than the DBA one18:30
chesedoMaaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Mini Meeting - 26 April 201718:30
* Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles18:30
chesedoHi all and welcome to another mini meeting18:30
chesedofeel free to introduce yourselves to maaz using 'Maaz: I am <first, last name>'18:30
chesedoMaaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht18:30
Maazchesedo: Yessir18:30
theblazehenMaaz I am Jeandre Le Roux18:30
Maaztheblazehen: Yessir18:30
chesedoOur topics are:18:31
chesedo- Latest and Greatest News18:31
chesedo- Local Job Openings and Help Wanted18:31
chesedo- Education Project - Finding the Right Software18:31
chesedoMaaz: topic Latest and Greatest News18:31
MaazCurrent Topic: Latest and Greatest News18:31
chesedooff to the blaze - with excitement18:31
theblazehenhttp://karmainsecurity.com/tales-of-sugarcrm-security-horrors If you're running SugarCRM, patch it asap. And move to something better, if possible18:31
theblazehenOn that note, https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2017-10/ better upgrade firefox as well18:32
theblazehenhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bfq-iosched/D-7wDP47iBI some good news - VFQ IO scheduler is now in mainline linux, which works really well for responsiveness on desktop systems18:33
theblazehenhttps://ablagoev.github.io/linux/adventures/commands/2017/02/19/adventures-in-usr-bin.html has some interesting stuff18:33
theblazehenhttps://dev.to/buntine/the-balanced-ternary-machines-of-soviet-russia nice read on some computing stuff in russia, with ternary computers18:34
theblazehenAnd https://github.com/ChrisRx/dungeonfs takes "Everything is a file" to a new level18:34
theblazehenAlso, 9front is a bit more modern version of plan 9, has some great ideas, but I'm not too impressed with the shell environment etc18:35
* theblazehen lost the link to other thing, 1 sec18:36
* chesedo is a bit disappointed in mozilla18:37
theblazehenThis guy wrote his own display managing system, with X and wayland compatibility layers, and here's a "Plan 9 like interface" for it https://arcan-fe.com/2017/04/17/one-night-in-rio-vacation-photos-from-plan9/18:38
theblazehenAnd the normal DE used with it http://durden.arcan-fe.com/18:38
theblazehenWorth a read through18:38
theblazehenhttps://arcan-fe.com/2016/12/29/chasing-the-dream-of-a-terminal-free-cli/ is a nice read as well, I'd sometimes like my terminals to work a bit more graphically18:39
theblazehenThey way that plan 9 (and the video on https://arcan-fe.com/2017/04/17/one-night-in-rio-vacation-photos-from-plan9/) is how I think it would be really nice to have18:39
theblazehenThat's about it then18:39
chesedogreat ty theblazehen18:40
chesedoMaaz: topic Local Job Openings and Help Wanted18:40
MaazCurrent Topic: Local Job Openings and Help Wanted18:40
chesedoWith some new additions they are:18:40
chesedo- Certified Scrum Master (JHB) -> http://obsidian.co.za/careers18:40
chesedo- Open Source Hadoop Consultant (JHB) -> http://obsidian.co.za/careers18:40
chesedo- Senior Linux Administrator / Linux Architect (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/senior-linux-administrator--linux-archi18:40
chesedo- Senior JAVA Developer with Middleware Experience (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/senior-java-developer-with-middleware-ex18:40
chesedo- Java Middleware Magician (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/java-middleware-magician18:40
chesedoalthough not too sure about the last three18:41
chesedoif anyone has others then feel free to mention them18:41
chesedoMaaz: topic Ubuntu Education18:41
MaazCurrent Topic: Ubuntu Education18:41
chesedomy status with this is the same as last time - well about...18:42
chesedoneed to check out the software theblazehen mentioned and one that i read about in one textbook18:42
chesedobut with exams coming up, i am a bit busy currently...18:43
chesedoso that seems to be it18:43
chesedothank you all for joining in on the mini meeting18:43
chesedoMaaz: end meeting18:43
MaazMeeting Ended18:43
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theblazehenty chesedo18:43
chesedoyw theblazehen18:44
* chesedo is looking forward to reading about does vulnerabilies of the first news item18:45
chesedos/does/those/18:45
chesedoi wonder if Langjan might have killed his net by changing a wrong passwd18:46
nsnzerogood evening chesedo and the rest of the gang18:46
theblazehenhi nsnzero18:48
nsnzerohow you doing theblazehen ?18:49
theblazehenGood and you nsnzero?18:49
nsnzerowell enough  not to complain 18:50
theblazehenheh18:50
chesedoevening nsnzero18:54
chesedonsnzero: you missed the meeting again, :D18:54
nsnzerowatched a good moive called who am i theblazehen 18:54
theblazehenLooks interesting, ty nsnzero18:55
nsnzerosorry guys i just been caught up with house  matters 18:55
nsnzeroits in german but there are subs available 18:55
theblazehenCool18:56
chesedonsnzero: np, and great share19:00
nsnzeroi like in the main hollywood movies where hacking is depicted by furious typing followed by a large access denied or if successful a 3d representation of a file system19:04
theblazehennsnzero: http://fsv.sourceforge.net/19:05
theblazehenAlso, reddit.com/r/itsaunixsystem  I know this!19:05
nsnzerotheblazehen: thats what is missing from my system a 3d file explorer - now its complete 19:07
theblazehennsnzero: Nice19:07
theblazehenhttps://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/2sz5xo/bspwmofxoc_i_love_sci_fi_movie_interfaces_so_i/19:08
theblazehennsnzero: Give that a go :)19:08
nsnzeroand just when i thought my system is cool enough !!!19:12
nsnzeroi like when people see my pc and remarks its only got words on the screen - referring to the terminal emulators open 19:14
theblazehenheh, nice. People tend to say similar things about my multi monitor setup :)19:15
theblazehen6 at home, and 6 at the office as well19:15
theblazehenAnd a lot better than my old 6 display setup http://imgur.com/a/uVHYy19:16
nsnzeroonly 6 screen how do you get any work done ! 12 is the minimum allowed nowdays19:21
nsnzerohttp://www.multi-monitors.com/Twelve_Monitor_Computers_s/6528.htm19:22
theblazehen> 1920 x 1080p Maximum Resolution Per Screen19:23
theblazehenhah19:23
theblazehenAt home, 4k + 3x 2560x1440 + 1920x1080 + 1024x76819:23
theblazehenOffice 4k + 2x 2560x1440 + 1920x1080 + 1366x76819:24
theblazehenYeah. I guess I gotta upgrade19:24
nsnzerolol - you have enough 19:24
theblazehenYeah...19:25
LangjanKilos, I have sorted the problem without the encryption key. All ok and working. Thanks.19:37
nsnzerogood night all19:39
Kilosnight all. sleep tight21:53

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