[00:00] <spetznaz_> really?
[00:00] <elky> spetznaz_: we're not interested in any kind of bombs here thanks
[00:00] <spetznaz_> i was pranked by my friends
[00:00] <eam> fork bombs maybe
[00:01] <spetznaz_> because of that python code that execute fork bombs
[00:01] <spetznaz_> causing my laptop to crash!
[00:01] <spetznaz_> elky someday you will be interested in any kinds of bombs
[00:03] <elky> spetznaz_: no, i'm more interested in this channel being on topic. you haven't been on topic yet
[00:03] <spetznaz_> elky ok ok! no hurt feelings man
[00:06] <spetznaz_> is ubuntu isnt secured while accessing the deepweb?
[00:06] <spetznaz_> for as far as i know deepweb is different than darknet
[00:07] <spetznaz_> because i use tor always especially while in IRC and accessing some stuf in the deepweb
[00:07] <elky> spetznaz_: still offtopic for here
[00:07] <plut0> New disk setup, trying to boot with LUKS encrypted root but the boot process is not prompting for a password to decrypt, what am I missing?
[00:07] <spetznaz_> elky why? its still about ubntu
[00:09] <elky> spetznaz_: the deepweb and darkweb are not topics for this channel. using ubuntu does not make them so
[00:13] <michael__> sup ?
[00:16] <FreeSoftwareMan> Hello all, looking for someone who has used PendDriveLinux... I am trying to make a multiboot usb, and Grub is saying cannot find file ISO. I have /mnt/USB/NAMEOFISO.iso is this wrong?
[00:22] <helpless> so, I accidentally removed my boot option with efibootmgr
[00:22] <helpless> How can I fix this?
[00:26] <Guest6676_> hi
[00:26] <no-such-2_> Ubuntu saved my ancient laptop! ^_^   hi guest6676
[00:27] <rizonz> is this known with debmirror ? xenial main Release' does not have a Release file.
[00:29] <ChaiTRex> rizonz: Do you mean with `mirror:` or whatever entries in `sources.list`?
[00:29] <Guest6676_> Who use Ubuntu 17?
[00:29] <afl456> wow, no one suggested to spetznaz to check cron?
[00:29] <ChaiTRex> Guest6676_: Lots of people, I think.
[00:30] <rizonz> ChaiTRex: no when I use my own local mirror with debmirror
[00:30] <afl456> I am on 17.04, it's had a few display issues but after this mornings updates they seem to have stabilised :)
[00:30] <ChaiTRex> rizonz: Oh, OK. No idea about that.
[00:30] <Guest6676_> ChaiTRex: cool, I'm using Ubuntu 16
[00:30] <rizonz> ChaiTRex: have you seen it ?
[00:30] <theT00LMAN> i never realized how packed this room is
[00:31] <ChaiTRex> rizonz: No, I've used `mirror:` entries before and they led me to grief when some mirrors didn't have everything they should have, so `apt update` would fail for a long time until the randomly selected mirror changed.
[00:31] <ChaiTRex> rizonz: Never used a local mirror.
[00:31] <rizonz> ChaiTRex: ok, found that issue
[00:32] <theT00LMAN> hey so ive got an issue on 16.04 with amd and 4 monitors
[00:32] <rizonz> ChaiTRex: local mirrros are great
[00:32] <rizonz> ChaiTRex: if you have some servers, just do it
[00:32] <theT00LMAN> xrandr doesnt see all 4
[00:32] <theT00LMAN> and xfce-display-settings does
[00:33] <theT00LMAN> xfce-display-settings will let me do 4 in a horizontal row but not 3 on bottom 1 on top
[00:34] <theT00LMAN> furthermore, it wont save the configuration and i have to redoo it whenever i bott
[00:35] <theT00LMAN> does amd on linux suck or am i doing something wrong?
[00:36] <Guest6676_> theT00LMAN: no
[00:36] <Guest6676_> theT00LMAN: in my work we use ubuntu with amd
[00:36] <Guest6676_> theT00LMAN: why?
[00:37] <theT00LMAN> why what?
[00:38] <ChaiTRex> theT00LMAN: AMD video cards were made a bit slower when 16.04 came out. I'm not sure if that's still the case, though.
[00:40] <theT00LMAN> well when i try configure it how i want it, i hit apply and then it changes the layout to 2 monitors with 2 disabled
[00:40] <theT00LMAN> and xrandr doesnt see the fourth so i cant set it with that
[00:41] <theT00LMAN> it does let me do four in a row [ ][ ][ ][ ]
[00:41] <theT00LMAN> but when i boot, it configures like this
[00:42] <theT00LMAN> [ ][ ]  [X][ ]
[00:42] <theT00LMAN> with number 3 disabled and a monitor sized gap between 2 & 3
[00:43] <theT00LMAN> oh and 3 & 4 out of order
[00:44] <ChaiTRex> theT00LMAN: Sorry, this sort of thing is messed up in general, not just with AMD. Multiple monitors are not handled well. I'm personally not sure of any solutions to it, though there probably are some.
[00:45] <theT00LMAN> i know my machines with mismatched nvidia work fine for this style set up
[00:46] <lkthomas> folks, how exactly do I define runlevel on systemd startup script ?
[00:47] <ChaiTRex> theT00LMAN: My problems occur on Intel integrated graphics.
[00:47] <Guest6676_>   is Ubuntu good to use as server?
[00:47] <ChaiTRex> theT00LMAN: It's possible that nVidia does something right.
[00:47] <Ben64> Guest6676_: yes
[00:47] <ChaiTRex> Guest6676_: Yes, it's used for that a lot.
[00:47] <Guest6676_> Ben64: cool
[00:47] <theT00LMAN> you dont say
[00:47] <Guest6676_> Ben64: i'm using ubuntu here but as desktop
[00:48] <theT00LMAN> Guest6676_: i use it and centos and genttoo for my servers
[00:48] <Guest6676_> Ben64: thinking use ubuntu as server in my work
[00:48] <helpless> Can anyone help me out
[00:48] <Ben64> Guest6676_: go for it
[00:48] <pd1> Guest6676_: just use the server edition...
[00:48] <helpless> Removed boot entry with efibootmgr
[00:48] <helpless> and would like to get it back with livedvd
[00:48] <IngCr3at1on> I've got 16.04.2 booted on this laptop from a USB key and it's working more or less how I would expect. I plugged in an external USB harddrive and it can read it but it can't write to it
[00:48] <ChaiTRex> IngCr3at1on: How is the external drive formatted? FAT, NTFS, ext4?
[00:49] <Guest6676_> ok friends thank you, I'll use server edition of ubuntu
[00:49] <Guest6676_> :)
[00:49] <IngCr3at1on> the drive is formatted as ext4 and I use it with my ubuntu laptop and arch desktop
[00:49] <ChaiTRex> IngCr3at1on: Can root write to it?
[00:49] <pd1> IngCr3at1on: when you unmount it and mount it by hand - any changes or still read only?
[00:49] <IngCr3at1on> ChaiTRex: funny you asked that while I was typing :D
[00:49] <ChaiTRex> IngCr3at1on: Like with `sudo touch newfilename`
[00:50] <IngCr3at1on> ChaiTRex: didn't try, will now also I'm not  sure pd1 but I can find out lol
[00:50] <theT00LMAN> mount -o remount,rw
[00:51] <pd1> IngCr3at1on: and maybe the permissions are jsut wrong. what message do you get when you try to write to the drive?
[00:51] <IngCr3at1on> permission denied but I'm disinclined to change the perms cause the drive works with my other machines and I generally don't use it with other computers
[00:52] <IngCr3at1on> it's just the only drive I have handy to try to pull data
[00:52] <IngCr3at1on> sudo touch works so I'm just going to try remounting it as suggested
[00:52] <theT00LMAN> mount -o remount,re /mountpoint
[00:52] <IngCr3at1on> not sure why I didn't think of that a moment ago
[00:52] <theT00LMAN> rw
[00:52] <IngCr3at1on> aye, ty theT00LMAN
[00:52] <IngCr3at1on> as I said I should have thought of that before even joining
[00:52] <theT00LMAN> and what errors come when you run that
[00:53] <pd1> IngCr3at1on: if 'sudo touch blub' works then its a permission problem
[00:53] <IngCr3at1on> agreed pd1
[00:53] <pd1> while blub is an imaginary filename
[00:53] <IngCr3at1on> yeah I did touch test but I knew what you meant lol
[00:54] <IngCr3at1on> theTOOLMAN doesn't like my mountpoint for whatever reason lol
[00:54] <IngCr3at1on> or no... bad option
[00:54] <IngCr3at1on> screw it...
[00:54] <IngCr3at1on> I'll just fix the perms
[00:54] <pd1> create a folder on the drive with 'sudo mkdir /path/to /drive/folderName' and run 'chown yourUSerName:yourUserName' then you should be able to write at least into that folder
[00:55] <IngCr3at1on> pd1: yep
[00:55] <pd1> sudo chown
[00:55] <IngCr3at1on> aye, for some reason I didn't really troubleshoot this much cause I was thinking it was a live ubuntu issue (not sure why); easy fix really lol
[00:56] <IngCr3at1on> the fun part will be getting these files back onto the windows drive after I redo this person's OS but meh
[00:56] <IngCr3at1on> god I hate windoze...
[00:57] <pd1> is the group name just a nice looking coverup for the gid in the background? or can is easily create the same group on 2 linux installs to use them to make permissions work between linux installs?
[00:57] <pd1> IngCr3at1on: still space on the usb device?
[00:57] <ChaiTRex> pd1: Yes, it's a cover for the GID.
[00:57] <pd1> ChaiTRex: ok
[00:57] <IngCr3at1on> pd1: which one? lol
[00:57] <ChaiTRex> pd1: You can, of course, create a group with a specific ID.
[00:57] <ChaiTRex> pd1: On both systems.
[00:58] <IngCr3at1on> hmm nvm I can' actually mount/access the flash drive it seems so I'll assume you mean the usb harddrive
[00:58] <IngCr3at1on> yes there's lots of space on it
[00:58] <pd1> ChaiTRex: yeah i could. but the coverup is there for a reason :P alll those numbers... who can remember them??? :P
[00:59] <pd1> IngCr3at1on: perhaps resize the ext4 and create a ntfs at the end? the beginning?
[00:59] <theT00LMAN> ewwww
[00:59] <IngCr3at1on> lol, not gonna happen
[00:59] <IngCr3at1on> I refuse!
[01:00] <pd1> IngCr3at1on: kinda the right answer. if you clients win do not let you install funky etx4 tools....
[01:00] <IngCr3at1on> more likely what I'll do is after I reinstall windoze on this POS I'll nuke the live Ubuntu partition from it and format that as NTFS, copy the files over to it then use that to copy them to the laptop lol
[01:00] <theT00LMAN> you know fat32 works linux and windows eh
[01:01] <IngCr3at1on> theTOOLMAN that's the other option yes
[01:01] <IngCr3at1on> either way I'll use the flash drive for that not my harddrive lol
[01:01] <pd1> theT00LMAN: that worked before "big data" got famous :D
[01:02] <ChaiTRex> exFAT is better than FAT32 for modern OSes. Supports files over 4 GB, for example.
[01:02] <theT00LMAN> still exfat is proprietary microcrap
[01:02] <IngCr3at1on> I seriously doubt there's anything big on this machine I'm just doing a bulk copy of the Documents and Settings directories
[01:03] <theT00LMAN> oh in that case, rsync -avPl as root
[01:03] <ChaiTRex> It would be nice if there was a Linuxish permissionless filesystem.
[01:03] <IngCr3at1on> lol.. why didn't I think of that!?!?
[01:04] <theT00LMAN> the "P" will keep mocrocrap permissons
[01:04] <IngCr3at1on> yeah
[01:04] <IngCr3at1on> that's exactly what I should do lol
[01:04] <theT00LMAN> but do it as root
[01:04] <theT00LMAN> dont be scared of root unless youre on a production server
[01:04] <pd1> and then be scared of the sysadmin not the root itself...
[01:05] <IngCr3at1on> who said I was scared of root? lol
[01:05] <theT00LMAN> and even them you can use root just dont run daemons as root
[01:05] <theT00LMAN> well im a senior sysadmon so i can do it freely
[01:05] <IngCr3at1on> lol, right
[01:05] <pd1> theT00LMAN: the deamon should take to drop priviledges it do not need!
[01:06] <theT00LMAN> exactly and every daemon should run as its on user in chropt
[01:06] <theT00LMAN> chroot
[01:06] <pd1> theT00LMAN: thats kinda impossible
[01:06] <theT00LMAN> no its not
[01:07] <theT00LMAN> litlle bit of mount bind magic in your startup scripts and youre good
[01:07] <bazhang> theT00LMAN, we dont recommend root here
[01:07] <ChaiTRex> Well, some daemons need less restrictions, like cron.
[01:07] <theT00LMAN> lol so do i have to play by your rules?
[01:07] <bazhang> theT00LMAN, sudo -i if you must
[01:07] <theT00LMAN> cron should run as root
[01:07] <ChaiTRex> But that's not a bad idea for almost all daemons.
[01:08] <IngCr3at1on> that was a much better solution than copy lol thanks theT00LMAN
[01:08] <Guest6676_> ChaiTRex: what daemon?
[01:08] <theT00LMAN> and sudo -i is working root but with an auditd trail
[01:08] <ChaiTRex> Guest6676_: Cron is one that should run fairly unrestricted.
[01:09] <theT00LMAN> yeah but your cronjobs need to be their own users and chropt jailed
[01:09] <adamg> coworker is on 14.04, did an apt-get autoremove (not sure that this caused the problem), rebooted, and now compiz shows no window decorations. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
[01:09] <theT00LMAN> lets just say my crontab has a bunch of "&&"
[01:10] <ChaiTRex> I think that chrooting isn't a good idea for cron as non-root. The user might have read access to something outside of the proposed chroot and might have a cron job that uses that access.
[01:10] <IngCr3at1on> or not... lol
[01:10] <ChaiTRex> theT00LMAN: Yeah, I put an autoupdate thing with lots of && on a friend's computer so that it keeps things updated automatically without bothering them.
[01:10] <IngCr3at1on> that created a 36byte file that would appear to be a symlink that is no longer accessible without that drive lol
[01:11] <IngCr3at1on> probably the l in those options
[01:11] <ChaiTRex> adamg: Check the end of /var/log/apt/history.log
[01:11] <ChaiTRex> adamg: See what was removed.
[01:11] <orlock> theT00LMAN: autid is better than making sudo log its requests
[01:11] <IngCr3at1on> my mistake for copying your syntax theTOOLMAN instead of looking it up lol
[01:11] <orlock> theT00LMAN: auditd, even
[01:11] <IngCr3at1on> and I just realized why autocomplete wasn't working for that name... theT00LMAN with zeros! lol
[01:11] <IngCr3at1on> I fail!
[01:12] <theT00LMAN> yeah l is for symlinks but when you put the data on the new windows drive
[01:12] <theT00LMAN> it will carry the symlinks over appropriately
[01:12] <orlock> theT00LMAN: you can fork off processes and bypass any sudo command logging
[01:12] <IngCr3at1on> yeah I need the complete data copied onto the harddrive though so that I can nuke the data on the laptop and redo the OS
[01:12] <IngCr3at1on> so symlink won't work
[01:12] <theT00LMAN> i know  which is why i chropt
[01:12] <orlock> theT00LMAN: if this is something you are interested in, you should have a look at the CIS system hardening guidelines
[01:12] <theT00LMAN> well thats
[01:13] <theT00LMAN> why i chroot everything
[01:13] <theT00LMAN> rce is my fear
[01:13] <theT00LMAN> and i use tmux so i know all about bypassing auditd logs
[01:13] <orlock> tmux should not bypass auditd logs
[01:14] <pd1> adamg: do you knwo what he was trying to do before the autoremove?
[01:14] <theT00LMAN> you get the initial sudo request but thays it
[01:14] <theT00LMAN> hey i have to go my phone is gonna die
[01:17] <adamg> pd1: he installed virtualbox and vagrant, then got messages that there were unused packages that could be removed and did the autoremove. I suspect that the unused packages predated the virtualbox/vagrant stuff, just hadn't been noticed before.
[01:17] <pd1> adamg: i assume you have no idea what exactly got removed right?
[01:18] <pd1> adamg: resetting xorg.conf might help
[01:18] <pd1> back it up first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[01:18] <IngCr3at1on> nah
[01:18] <IngCr3at1on> who needs backups!
[01:19] <pd1> adamg: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html this might help.
[01:22] <adamg> pd1: tried. buuut ChaiTRex thanks! that is fruitful. after the autoremove, there's an entry for commandline "aptdaemon --role='role-commit-packages'" at a half-hour boundary, so looks like an auto-upgrade cron of some sort
[01:24] <ChaiTRex> adamg: You're welcome.
[01:57] <tonyt> is there a overclocking thing nvidia that runs in linux?
[01:57] <tonyt>  is there a overclocking thing for nvidia that runs in linux?
[01:59] <Ben64> tonyt: yes, part of the nvidia driver
[02:00] <Rochvellon> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?px=MTY1OTM&page=news_item
[02:05] <tonyt> ben where is it located?
[02:05] <Zythyr> Anyone here has used ImageMagick convert? I am trying to convert a SVG file to BMP file which as 24 bit. I did "convert test.svg -depth 24 test.bmp". It converts it 32 bit instead of 24 bit.
[02:07] <wedgie> Zythyr: imagemagick has its own channel. May be better off asking in ##imagemagick
[02:07] <Zythyr> wedgie Thanks! I didn't know it had a channel
[02:07] <gr33n7007h> Zythyr: try: `convert input.svg -type truecolor output.bmp`
[02:08] <havoc_hive> hello world
[02:08] <Zythyr> gr33n7007h Thanks. -type truecolor worked! Also I just tested -alpha off which also works. I dond't understand the difference though
[02:09] <gr33n7007h> Zythyr: np
[02:20] <amazecpk> Question. Why is it so damn hard to find the configuration files for installed applications
[02:21] <amazecpk> so far not a single application I've installed has had the config file in the specified location from the man. I'm on ubuntu 16.04
[02:21] <amazecpk> (specifically looking for the i3 blocks config file)
[02:21] <havoc_hive> amazecpk: i dont seem to have a problem.
[02:22] <amazecpk> havoc_hive, did I do something wrong during the installation process?
[02:22] <ChaiTRex> amazecpk: apt-file search packagename | egrep '^packagename:'
[02:23] <havoc_hive> amazecpk: im not sure, how are you going about it?
[02:23] <ChaiTRex> amazecpk: You can also limit that further to including only files in /etc, for example.
[02:24] <ChaiTRex> amazecpk: There's also the possibility that you need to create the file.
[02:25] <amazecpk> hmm, could be, for for instance the i3 config file was under ~/.config/... not ~/.i3...
[02:26] <ChaiTRex> amazecpk: Ahh, the command I showed won't show things under /home.
[02:26] <amazecpk> The fonts folder took me forever to find since everyone online had a different location to try.
[02:26] <ChaiTRex> amazecpk: Also, those files (in ~/.whatever) are generally created on first run of the application.
[02:27] <amazecpk> ahh, let me see if that is the case
[02:28] <amazecpk> nope. still cannot find the i3blocks config file.
[02:28] <ChaiTRex> Sorry, have to go (store I'm in is closing).
[02:29] <amazecpk> no worries. thanks
[02:29] <ChaiTRex> You're welcome.
[02:33] <Basketball> !test
[02:34] <monty_hall> anybody get sound blaster z working on ubuntu 17?
[02:35] <monty_hall> shows up in list of audio output devices but I'm getting no sound.
[02:35] <monty_hall> one second - rebooting
[02:35] <amazecpk> so.. anyone know where I can find the i3blocks config file?
[02:35] <amazecpk> on ubuntu 16.04
[02:39] <BennyB> Hi everyone, I'm having an issue with a pendrive install, is anyone willing to help a bit?
[02:42] <Druid-> !test
[02:45] <BennyB> Hi everyone, I'm having an issue with a pendrive install, is anyone willing to help a bit?
[02:47] <gr33n7007h> BennyB: whats the problem?
[02:48] <BennyB> Hi, thanks, so I have a good pendrive install, just used it on a laptop yesterday. Trying it on a different laptop today and it's booting into GRUB
[02:49] <BennyB> At which point I am totally lost. I just want to wipe the HDD and install
[02:50] <gr33n7007h> no why do you ask
[02:53] <gr33n7007h> BennyB: how'd you mean it boots into grub?
[02:54] <BennyB> It's booting into a GRUB command line prompt
[02:55] <BennyB> From what I've googled it sounds like the BIOS isn't good at booting from USB?
[02:55] <gr33n7007h> BennyB: how did you create the usb?
[02:56] <gr33n7007h> have you checked in bios settings?
[02:57] <BennyB> Using pendrivelinux
[02:57] <BennyB> Latest LTS iso
[02:58] <gr33n7007h> BennyB: what OS is on this new laptop you're trying to boot from?
[02:59] <BennyB> It has win7. Previous ownder thinks it's corrupted, so I'm trying to just put a fresh ubuntu install in
[02:59] <Ben64> try writing the iso using unetbootin or rufus or something
[02:59] <Ben64> also, check the hash sum to verify it
[03:00] <gr33n7007h> BennyB: or if you've got a linux laptop lying around try using `dd`
[03:00] <gr33n7007h> but rufus should be good
[03:00] <BennyB> I just used the USB drive to install on a different laptop yesterday, so I'm pretty certain that's not the issue
[03:00] <BennyB> Unless that's not what you're getting at
[03:01] <gr33n7007h> BennyB: well, if it's booting into grub something gone amiss
[03:01] <Ben64> best to eliminate variables, and pendrivelinux is one
[03:02] <BennyB> OK. If I can get Windows to boot, what's the simplest way to install? I've only ever used the pendrive.
[03:03] <Ben64> write the iso using rufus or unetbootin
[03:03] <gr33n7007h> BennyB: or win32 disk imager
[03:04] <BennyB> Alright. I was just wondering if there were some commands in GRUB that I just didn't know about. I'll try a few different tacks from here. Thanks for your time!
[03:04] <gr33n7007h> yw BennyB
[03:13] <SemiNus> hi
[03:13] <adamu> hola
[03:38] <syndikate> Hello people, my ubuntu automatically connects to the hotspot network on startup. I disabled connect automatically and even removed the network from the network manager. Still it is connecting to it on startup. When I check the network list via the manager, I can't even find it in the list.
[03:38] <syndikate> What could be the issue and how can I prevent it from connecting automatically?
[03:42] <rtg72a> Hi
[03:43] <rtg72a> Is anyone else having an issue on Ubuntu 17.04 where Ubuntu Software refuses to install anything? You click install and basically nothing happens
[03:44] <_28Kb> i got install greyed out
[03:45] <_28Kb> messed up PPA stuff
[03:48] <rtg72a> _28Kb: Mine isn't greyed out, install is there, but when I click it, it does nothing, even .deb packages that I download on my own
[03:49] <rtg72a> I have to constantly use sudo dpkg -i <deb package>
[04:09] <wudo_honour> Uh, Jesus, so many people in here.
[04:22] <k_sze> Is it possible to get screen sleep without graphical desktop?
[04:23] <k_sze> I have 14.04 and I disabled the lightdm upstart task on purpose, so I only have 6 ttys and no graphical desktop. However, I still want the screen to properly sleep after some timeout.
[04:23] <k_sze> I don't want it to just go blank.
[04:36] <spetznaz_> is it possible adding kali repositories in ubuntu could be done?
[04:38] <Bashing-om> spetznaz_: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian <- Advice For New Users On Not Breaking Their System
[04:45] <jeff69> any woman outthere??
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:55] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[04:57] <Grorco> hey guys quick question, what causes a symbolic link error?
[04:57] <EriC^^> Grorco: paste the error
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Grorco: hastebin.com the error to EriC^^
[05:01] <Grorco> EriC^^, ln: failed to create symbolic link "/usr/bin/amdgpu-pro-uninstall" file exist
[05:02] <Grorco> EriC^^, sorry I have to manually type it out :( not connected on the other laptop yet
[05:03] <ikonia> it says the problem in the error
[05:03] <Grorco> EriC^^, when I cd to that dir I don't see the file there though from the terminal
[05:03] <ikonia> "the file already exists"
[05:03] <ikonia> so you need to either remove the symolic link so it can be replaced, or use ln -sf to replace it
[05:04] <Grorco> ikonia, what does ln -sf do?
[05:04] <EriC^^> it forces it
[05:05] <Grorco> so just put that at the end like this? ./amdgpu-pro-install ln -sf
[05:05] <EriC^^> actually delete the link then recreate it
[05:05] <EriC^^> sudo rm /usr/bin/amdgpu-pro-uninstall
[05:14] <Grorco> alright thank you so that fixed that error, can anyone help me with this error?  https://pastebin.com/GEdS9jbj
[05:20] <dragostini> I'm not ubuntu user, but can anyone tell me if the packages purple-facebook and purple-skypeweb or purple-skypeweb-git are in the ubuntu official repos? Just do a quick apt search for me ^^
[05:21] <Bashing-om> !info purple-facebook xenial | dragostini
[05:21] <dragostini> !info purple-skypeweb
[05:21] <dragostini> !info purple-skypeweb xenial
[05:22] <dragostini> beauty. Thanks Bashing-om
[05:22] <Bashing-om> dragostini: :)
[05:31] <dimaj> hey guys, is there a way to check which HDD is connected via USB vs internal SATA port?
[05:31] <dimaj> and to identify which disk corresponds to which bay in a system
[05:37] <dimaj> nm. i think i found it via "lshw -c storage -c disk" and then search for anything that does not have "usb-storage" in the configuration
[05:38] <Bashing-om> dimaj: ' sudo lshw -C Disk -short ' may help too, and then read the boot log for the ATA assignements .
[05:38] <aavrug> I am using Ubuntu 14.04 and trying to run docker with some assigned memory so it will use that memory for the specific container but getting error WARNING: Your kernel does not support swap limit capabilities, memory limited without swap.
[05:38] <aavrug> I also tried to modify the grub file but it is not working as well.
[05:41] <rodrigot23> does abybody have the unrar duplicated bug in ubuntu 16.04
[05:41] <dimaj> thanks Bashing-om
[05:42] <uL4m0g> I recently bought a laptop with ubuntu 17.04 pre-installed, what I'd like to know is if its possible to backup the entire os on a thumbdrive, and if its possible to restore from it.
[05:42] <Bashing-om> dimaj: Small bit to try and help :)
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !backup | uL4m0g
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> uL4m0g: im curious wich brand of laptop gives 17.04 on it?
[05:46] <uL4m0g> lotuspsychje, system76 is intended for linux, i bought their Gazelle laptop and I get the option of 16.04 or 17.04
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> uL4m0g: ok thanks, in my opinion, its best to backup your data to external device and if something happens with ubuntu, just reinstall fresh with your usb stick
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> uL4m0g: its easy and free to create your own ubuntu usb stick
[05:49] <uL4m0g> lotuspsychje, i not so recently bought an acer laptop and i couldnt do much because of uefi secure boot locking windows 10 so i googled unlock laptop and i saw people saying system76
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> uL4m0g: its possible to install ubuntu on an uefi system also
[05:49] <uL4m0g> lotuspsychje, true, but i just wanna make sure i back up the os that came with it just in case :)
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> uL4m0g: 17.04 has 9 months support, so if you back that Os up, you wont have much of time with it
[05:50] <uL4m0g> lotuspsychje, well the acer laptop that i bought is literally lock to win10 os, so i couldnt boot ubuntu i had to go to legacy
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> uL4m0g: i suggest you create an usb stick with an LTS release perhaps
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> uL4m0g: to install ubuntu, just disable secureboot and fastboot
[05:52] <uL4m0g> lotuspsychje, that's one of the issue, the bios on my acer laptop is rigged like there's no option to disable secureboot/fastboot
[05:52] <uL4m0g> only change from uefi to legacy
[05:52] <uL4m0g> and other basic
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> uL4m0g: hard to believe, wich type of acer is that?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !uefi > uL4m0g doublecheck all settings here
[05:55] <uL4m0g> lotuspsychje, acer E5-575-33BM, i3 7100 4GB DDR4,
[05:56] <EriC^^> uL4m0g: did you try setting the admin bios password? that gives more features when you set it
[05:56] <EriC^^> an option to "trust" an os might appear
[05:57] <uL4m0g> Eric^^, ok let me try 1 sec
[06:01] <rodrigot23> does anybody get an empty folder when they use ynrar on ubuntu 16.04?
[06:02] <rodrigot23> unrar*
[06:04] <uL4m0g> Eric^^, Oh my god! your suggestion worked.
[06:04] <EriC^^> uL4m0g: great!
[06:05] <uL4m0g> Eric^^, i set bios admin password and it gave me option for TPM, did a quick lookup online something to do with disowning stuff, anyways i went to boot and change boot mode from legacy to uefi, and can now disable the secure boot
[06:08] <EriC^^> uL4m0g: nice
[06:28] <dlrvis> Hi
[06:35] <Guest61430> !help
[06:36] <Guest61430> can someone help me, how do i change my name? i connected via terminal
[06:37] <YankDownUnder> Guest61430: You would do: /nick name-you-want
[06:37] <Swampfox> thank you Yank :)
[06:37] <Swampfox> appreciate it
[06:37] <Xristos_> gia tis gynaikes mas?
[06:37] <YankDownUnder> Swampfox: All good
[06:53] <vNistelroot> Hi guys! maybe someone could help me out, Im looking for an ubuntu version with a specific 3.13.x kernel
[06:54] <vNistelroot> im trying to set-up a specific driver for an SPI programmer
[06:54] <ducasse> vNistelroot: 3.13 was 14.04 iirc
[06:55] <seth> hi all
[06:56] <vNistelroot> heya ducasse, let me check
[06:56] <ducasse> vNistelroot: _not_ 14.04.5, that comes with a later kernel. you'd need the original 14.04 image.
[06:56] <vNistelroot> hm im running in a vm ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS and it comes with 4.4.0
[06:56] <vNistelroot> ahh
[06:59] <vNistelroot> would ubuntu-14.0.04.1-desktop-i386 do the trick?
[06:59] <ducasse> vNistelroot: yes, i think so. let me doublecheck.
[07:00] <YankDownUnder> https://askubuntu.com/questions/517136/list-of-ubuntu-versions-with-corresponding-linux-kernel-version
[07:00] <ducasse> vNistelroot: yes, that's the one.
[07:01] <vNistelroot> thank you YankDownUnder ducasse, lets check
[07:01] <xangua> vNistelroot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[07:01] <proxx_> Does anyone know if ZFS is considered stable on linux , aka production ready ?
[07:02] <ducasse> proxx_: it's mature, yes.
[07:02] <vNistelroot> yeah that ubuntu comes with 3.13.0-32
[07:03] <vNistelroot> lets try this driver
[07:03] <vNistelroot> just for share, im trying to set-up ch341 spi flash programmer
[07:05] <phablet__> 0ð2a
[07:05] <proxx_> ducasse , thanks
[07:18] <ij> Does systemd automatically make nfs mounts depend on network?
[07:23] <YankDownUnder> ij: Locally, right?
[07:23] <ij> YankDownUnder, What do you mean?
[07:23] <YankDownUnder> ij: The NFS mounts - are they local mounts?
[07:24] <ij> They're network mounts.
[07:24] <YankDownUnder> I'd assume that if the network is not present, then an NFS mount would not show up (if it was setup to automatically mount)
[07:28] <ducasse> ij: it should, but i always add the _netdev mount option anyway
[07:34] <ThetaOrionis> Hey guys, so yesterday I made a fresh install of Ubuntu 17.04 Mate, and the ugly DNS bug kept me offline. So I turned off DNSSEC, and updated my system with latest packages (which resolved the issue), but
[07:34] <hailhydra> I have a TASCAM US-122 and I can't get it to work with Ubuntu 16.04
[07:34] <ThetaOrionis> I was infected (first time, like ever!) with some ad-redirecting malware, that went straight to my router, changed DNS tables and affected all my devices connected to the Wifi
[07:36] <ThetaOrionis> I previously resetted the router to see if Ubuntu's Wifi issue was due to bad router conf, and that resetted the password too. As such, the infection occurred.
[07:36] <ThetaOrionis> Now, I want to make a fresh Ubuntu installation again, and the official ISO has the same problem. I simply can't get online to get the latest updates.
[07:36] <ThetaOrionis> Is there any way I can download the ISO with all the latest updates bundled?
[07:37]  * ThetaOrionis doesn't want to go to Mint or anything else
[07:38] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: sorry, no, but can't you just install the regular way, 'fix' resolved, apply updates etc? you can install without installing updates.
[07:38] <pd1>  hailhydra: is that a usb camere?
[07:38] <Ben64> ThetaOrionis: dns bug? infected? what?
[07:39] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse, That's what caused the issue. :( I manually edited the file yesterday, and soon after (within 5 mins) my router got infected
[07:40] <oerheks> how do you tell your router is 'infected' ??
[07:40] <Ben64> thats not how anything works
[07:40] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: editing something local can not cause a compromise of your router.
[07:40] <oerheks> turning off dnssec is a bad advise.
[07:40] <ThetaOrionis> Ben64, Yes, actually I resetted the router first, so the password and username got resetted to default values. Possibly that's why the malware crept in. All my devices (phone, tab, laptop) on the wifi started getting redirected to some oxoclik.net site
[07:40] <Ben64> well that isn't ubuntu's fault
[07:41] <pd1> ducasse: perhaps upnp....
[07:41] <pd1> but who knows
[07:41] <ducasse> oerheks: yes, but it can get him online long enough to get the update that will let him turn it back on.
[07:41] <ThetaOrionis> oerheks, Everything started getting redirected, and I started getting captchas on every site I visited
[07:41] <Ben64> sounds like you need a new router
[07:42] <pd1> or a serial conenction!
[07:42] <ducasse> pd1: no, but this is offtopic.
[07:42] <pd1> i know ducasse
[07:42] <ThetaOrionis> Ben64, Well, I resetted the router again, and plan to upgrade the firmware and change everything (admin password and everything else)
[07:43] <ThetaOrionis> oerheks, Right, actually I followed Hecticgeek's guide here http://www.hecticgeek.com/2017/04/ubuntu-17-04-systemd-dns-issues/
[07:43] <ThetaOrionis> oerheks, And despite that he mentioned the security risk, I just had to get online to get the latest updates. :(
[07:43] <pd1> maybe user you phone
[07:43] <pd1> use your
[07:44] <ThetaOrionis> pd1, Tried everything, using 2 phones and their USB and Wifi hotspots, but Ubuntu just refuses to get connected :(
[07:44] <pd1> manually resolve in the /etc/hosts?
[07:45] <ThetaOrionis> Even in the Live environment, connection isn't happening. And changing nameserver to Google's free servers (temporarily) doesn't help
[07:46] <ThetaOrionis> pd1, I'm afraid I'm hardly well-versed enough to edit /etc/hosts by myself. Is there a guide anywhere? :)
[07:46] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: did you stop resolved?
[07:47] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse, Yeah, actually I restarted it using the command, but after setting DNSSEC=off.
[07:47] <pd1> jsut add entries like that:
[07:47] <pd1> 123.123.123.123 web.address.ofthesiteyoune.ed
[07:47] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: and that didn't work this time?
[07:48] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse, Actually I tried it from the live environment, and no, it didn't work. :(
[07:48] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse, I'm a noob when it comes to cubersecurity, so I'm kinda scared to first install Ubuntu and make the same changes again :(
[07:48] <pd1> but updateing the system solved the issue?
[07:49] <ThetaOrionis> Also, I tried using my phone's hotspot this time. Still nothing.
[07:49] <YankDownUnder> Ubuntu infects routers now? Whoa...
[07:49] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: try just stopping resolved and set servers manually in resolv.conf
[07:49] <ThetaOrionis> pd1, Exactly. Looks like there's a new version of the file that disables DNSSEC and that worked
[07:50] <Ben64> so install and update
[07:50] <Ben64> what's the problem
[07:50] <pd1> then jsut give us the server that is mentioned in /etc/apt/sources.list, we give you the ip address and you append that to the /etc/hosts, update the system, and remove the line in the /etc/hosts
[07:50] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse, ok, I'm trying that
[07:51] <ThetaOrionis> Ben64, After installation, there's no connectivity to update. And if I stop DNSSEC manually before getting the updates (to get the said updates), I'm worried that such a situation might occur again :(
[07:51] <Ben64> it won't
[07:52] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: just set a good password on your router, don't let it sit there with the default.
[07:52] <ThetaOrionis> Actually, overall it was my fault. Resetting the router resetted the admin passwords too, and I forgot to change them.
[07:53] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse, Exactly, I always did that. But resetting it (to check if the issue was with the router) caused the issue. :(
[07:53] <YankDownUnder> ThetaOrionis: Is it safe to asume you've also reset the firewall on the router...?
[07:54] <ThetaOrionis> YankDownUnder, no, the firewall is ON by default. However, the ACL was deactivated.
[07:55] <YankDownUnder> ThetaOrionis: So since it's "on" by default, I'm sure you double checked it to make absolutely sure, right? Like anyone would do if they're worried about mucking things up...
[07:56] <ThetaOrionis> YankDownUnder, Yeah, I double-checked, and UFW was ON too. :\
[07:57]  * ThetaOrionis is afk, there's a visitor
[07:57] <YankDownUnder> The router has logs. Check the router's logfiles. If something "intrusive" shows up, then start checking devices.
[07:58] <donjuan> how to fix this http://imgur.com/a/nGpUh
[07:59] <ducasse> !mint | donjuan
[08:00] <donjuan> ?
[08:01] <YankDownUnder> donjuan: There is a #linuxmint-help channel to ask in
[08:01] <oerheks> donjuan, mint has its own issues, see ubottu for their irc
[08:07]  * ThetaOrionis is back
[08:08] <ThetaOrionis> Well, the router's security isn't an issue. I'll sanitize it and everything else, but it's disheartening to see that 17.04's faulty default confs messed things up for Linux noobs like me :(
[08:10] <ThetaOrionis> I guess I'll simply stick to the last LTS for a while, guys. What I want is a reasonably secure setup that works out of the box, and I don't have to mess up the conf files to get the Wifi working.
[08:10] <ThetaOrionis> s/Wifi/Internet
[08:10] <ThetaOrionis> But thanks nonetheless, ducasse, YankDownUnder, Ben64, pd1 and others. :)
[08:11] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: the router's security is what put you in this situation, and there are always bugs in new releases.
[08:11] <ducasse> ThetaOrionis: but good luck, and no problem :)
[08:12] <ThetaOrionis> ducasse, yeah. Actually I shouldn't have resetted the router in the first place, but being a true noob, I wasn't familiar with DNSSEC and such. So I did the first thing that came to mind. :)
[08:12]  * ThetaOrionis starts re-downloading Ubuntu 16.04 
[08:23] <aryan> Hi everyone, why do I get https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L2IVwME2nlE/WQBRYmNcRYI/AAAAAAAAdiw/v4GqIjbgqEk-O8QU98tqoRmLFPeDmaWhACL0B/h1152/2278171425012422304%253Faccount_id%253D1    screen and not ahead when I boot my UBuntu
[08:23] <aryan> ?
[08:25] <aryan> anyone around please ?
[08:26] <ducasse> !patience | aryan
[08:27] <aryan> hmm ok ducasse
[08:30] <pynki> aryan, ctrl+alt+f1, login, sudo dmesg   dos this show any errors and if yes what errors?
[08:30] <aryan> pynki: ok let me check
[08:32] <aryan> pynki: what is the default login on ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[08:32] <pynki> your user and your password
[08:33] <aryan> pynki: the thing is, its on the live boot
[08:33] <aryan> pynki: I tried every distro
[08:33] <aryan> and it stucks on that
[08:33] <pynki> oh
[08:33] <pynki> thats a different issue
[08:33] <Ben64> every distro?
[08:33] <aryan> I mean, every ubuntu versions
[08:33] <aryan> from 14.04, 16.04 to 17.04
[08:34] <Ben64> try ubuntu-mate
[08:34] <aryan> hm ok
[08:35] <aryan> Ben64: I am downloading MATE and will try
[08:35] <aryan> Ben64: I used startup disk creator, is it fine ?
[08:35] <Ben64> yeah
[08:36] <aryan> Do you suggest unetbootin ?
[08:36] <aryan> or multiusbboot ?
[08:36] <Ben64> unetbootin works also
[08:36] <Ben64> personally, i use dd
[08:36] <aryan> Ben64: dd never worked for me
[08:36] <hailhydra> I'm reading some instrucitons on how to get an older piece of hardware working and it says that sound card info is in /etc/asound.conf but I don't have that file. Where is it on Ubuntu 16.04?
[08:37] <TafThorne> Good morning. I have an Ubuntu 16.04 PC that has ongoing odd behaviour.  It periodically looses or forgets to renew its DHCP assigned IPv4 address.  Is this a good place to ask for help diagnosiing the issue?  I have already checked /etc/networks (blank), /var/lib/dhcp/dhcp.leases (empty file last touched in 2015) and had a look at what syslog (nothing) and jounalctl says.
[08:40] <hanzo> hello
[08:40] <TafThorne> In the past I have got things working again by either unplugging and reinserting the network cable or taking the interface down and up.  As this keeps happening I would like to try and resolve the problem.  AFAIK there are ~6 other Ubuntu PCs on this network that get along Ok with the Windows 2012r2 DHCP server.
[08:40] <pynki> TafThorne, is that network dependent or does this happen on different networks?
[08:40] <hailhydra> TafThorne: Thats not the way DHCP works
[08:40] <hanzo> cant believe that my old laptop working for UM16.04 @_@
[08:41] <TafThorne> pynki, it is a fixed PC, not a laptop so I cannot really answer that.  There are no other networks here to try with.
[08:41] <aryan> Ben64: pynki what may be the issue BTW ?
[08:41] <hanzo> i have install lm-sensors.. but i cant find it anywhere?
[08:41] <aryan> why I get that screen ?
[08:41] <TafThorne> hailhydra, in what way is what I have said not how DHCP works?  Clients request addresses, DHCP servers provide them.  Perodically clients should renew their addresse.  No?
[08:41] <pynki> TafThorne, unstable network
[08:42] <SimonNL> TafThorne: I would try resetting the router to factory settings.
[08:42] <hailhydra> TafThorne: No the server givs out leases
[08:43] <YankDownUnder> TafThorne: Safe to assume you've double-checked your network settings - and tried restarting the network (on the workstation) to see if you get a lease?
[08:43] <TafThorne> pynki, The managed switches claim no packet loss.  This is limited to the one machine though.  It's NIC claims no errors or drops.  All wired.  It could be that but I was trying to eliminate other options.
[08:44] <TafThorne> YankDownUnder, If I do those steps it has got a lease in the past.  It then fails to get one again some time later.  I am trying to fix the route cause rather than paper over.
[08:44] <TafThorne> hailhydra, the client asks for leases.
[08:44] <YankDownUnder> TafThorne: Is it possible to just use a static IP on this network?
[08:44] <pynki> TafThorne, can you wireshark the interface and then see if the normal DHCP flow is going on? discovery, offer, request,ack, (info), release ?
[08:45] <TafThorne> pynki, I could.  The capture would likeley have to run for many weeks though to catch when this blip happens and it enteres the failure state.
[08:46] <TafThorne> YankDownUnder, There is a small pool of addresses that could be used statically.
[08:46] <pynki> its a text file - as my profs used to say back in 2007 - don't care about storage...
[08:46] <pynki> TafThorne, but there are enough free addresses for dhcp clients?
[08:47] <YankDownUnder> TafThorne: So then you could possibly set the machine up as a static IP based workstation?
[08:48] <TafThorne> pynki, I can check how many leases are spare.  That is a good idea.
[08:49] <TafThorne> YankDownUnder, I could set it up to do static.  I could manually force a renew that would possibly work.  Do either of those steps help me diagnose why the DHCP system seems to now be working?
[08:50] <pynki> no, its a coverup of the problem :D
[08:50] <TafThorne> pynki & YankDownUnder, I have been covering it up for a year or more.  Now I must reluctatntly either deal with it or face more coverin up.
[08:51] <YankDownUnder> TafThorne: There could also be an issue with the MAC address database that lives on the MS server (*wow* surpise!) - ergo, you could also blow out the MAC address on the MS server, and then start "fresh" with renewing the DCHP lease...
[08:51] <TafThorne> Has even kept doing it through a dist-upgrade to 14.04 and possibly a move to a new building (the old building did have oor wireing)
[08:52] <pynki> TafThorne, also check if you MAC address is unique on the network
[08:53] <TafThorne> pynki, The DHCP server claims only 73% use of addresses at present.  As this is a UK focused site I do not expect many people suddenly turned up at 9pm and started using up all the allocaitons then ran away before I cme in this morning.
[08:53] <abb4s_> hi every body i want to test my flask app , i read this tutorial : http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/0.12/testing/ but it need import flaskr , how should i install flaskr package ???
[08:54] <hailhydra> Aren't you supposed to calculate your clients by class address to get the correct lease time?
[08:54] <pynki_> or even more?
[08:55] <pynki_> i eman 50 people working on 50 workstations with 50 phones and 25 tablets....depending on what you do in the office it might get critical fast
[08:55] <ab5ni> Hi. I'm trying to compile NetHack 3.6 under xenial, and it's bitching about not being able to locate libncurses.a . I've installed all the required libncurses5 libs. What gives? TIA
[08:55] <hailhydra> abb4s_: with pip just like all python packages
[08:55] <hailhydra> Class C address is only 254 clients
[08:56] <TafThorne> hailhydra, I do not know...
[08:56] <hailhydra> gotta make some subnets
[08:56] <TafThorne> pynki, oh no... Is there an easy way for me to check for duplicate addresses or is it time to look in a lot of switch logs and device terminals?
[08:57] <hailhydra> duplicates and collisions will get dropped simple by TCP negotiation
[08:57] <pynki_> TafThorne, don't knwo what you are doing there -there should be no case of "factory based" double mac addresses. but if you guys are flshing formwares to your own devices, let people playaround with that kind of stuff - better check
[08:58] <felis1> Is there anyone out there that can help me with a quick question about ubuntu mate 16.04, which I just installed? I'm a total newbie to Linux
[08:58] <pynki_> TafThorne, we had issues with firmwares that came from factories with fixed mac addresses in it  and we flashed all dev devices with it and it was a chaos :D
[08:58] <TafThorne> The server thinks I should have a lease that does not expire until the 02/05/2017 21:3347.  That is exactly 8 days after the last client logs say it made a DHCPRREQUEST and got a DHCPACK.
[09:00] <TafThorne> pynki, We do end up with duplicate addresses on the device we build here.  They are not NICs though and have always got at least our default MAC address in our allocation range in them.
[09:00] <pynki_> TafThorne, but not your workstation, right? or do you define the MACs of the workstations too in that network?
[09:01] <hailhydra> TafThorne: bring the lease duration down. It sounds like your running out of addresses. Try 4 days.
[09:02] <TafThorne> pynki_, work stations are as purchased from manufactuer.  We do not change MAC addresses in them.  Just run a cross compiler on them to generate code for the devices we mess up ourselves.
[09:03] <TafThorne> hailhydra, It looks like this PC was given a new 8 day lease last night by the server.  Only the client seems to have forgoten about it.  I can talk with the network admin about changing the lease time down from 8 to 4 but I do not think we are running short of addresses.
[09:04] <pynki_> TafThorne, then double MACs shouldn't be a problem
[09:04] <pynki_> TafThorne, you shutdown the workstation?
[09:05] <TafThorne> pynki_, I had done nothing to the work sation.  It is next to me.
[09:05] <TafThorne> pynki_, secodns before you sent that message I pulled the network cable and plugged it back in.
[09:05] <pynki_> TafThorne, i am still looking for a way to reproduce or record the problem without running wireshar all the time :D
[09:07] <pynki_> ll
[09:07] <pynki_> :/
[09:08] <kaizoku> o/
[09:09] <TafThorne> The workstation now has an address (the same as the old lease).  The DHCP server now says the lease is renewed as of a minute or two ago.
[09:10] <TafThorne> Oh the /var/lib/dhcp directory isnt where leases are stored any more is it... bother.  I should have been llokign elsewhere.. .but where?
[09:10] <hailhydra> consider the problem intermittent and move on
[09:10] <hateball> TafThorne: should be noted in the files section for man dhcpd
[09:10] <TafThorne> pynki_, thanks.  I am going to be afk for a few minutes but I will be back.  If you come up with something to instrument this it would be good bu tno rush.
[09:15] <pynki_> TafThorne, run tshark in the background, rotate the outputted files somehow, keep them long enough to caver your absinence, wait for the problem and then you have at least a network dump of what happens when the problem occurs
[09:18] <hailhydra> in older versions of Ubuntu usb devices were in /proc/bus/usb/ where are they now?
[09:25] <ducasse> hailhydra: you must be confusing /proc with /sys
[09:26] <blackflow> hailhydra: there's /dev/bus/usb, at least lsusb reads from there
[09:32] <Delphin> how do I tell what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[09:32] <ikonia> lsb_release
[09:32] <ikonia> or the "about" tab
[09:38] <shredding> I have a directory with roughly 100k files and i need to run a script over every file.
[09:38] <shredding> That is very, very slow.
[09:38] <shredding> How can i speed that up? Chunking into subdirs?
[09:39] <ducasse> shredding: are the files big?
[09:39] <shredding> 100k
[09:39] <shredding> kb
[09:39] <shredding> but i already have the feel that the problem lies within my python implementation.
[09:40] <pynki_> is the time linear?when running on half of it --> half of the time?
[09:42] <shrikrishna> ??
[09:42] <ppf> is there a clever way to test a microphone?
[09:42] <shredding> pynki_: I think it's not an NP problem :-)
[09:44] <mcphail> shredding: do you know where your bottleneck is? With that number of files, it is likely to be disk i/o
[09:44] <pynki_> load them into the ram! :O
[09:45] <shredding> mcphail: Atm I think it's the python implementation that is not an enumerator.
[09:45] <shredding> gimme a few secs, i will follow with details
[09:47] <mcphail> shredding: from the hacking I've done on thesilversearcher, optimising your script or algorithm might not help very much as the disk i/o is the major hindrance
[09:48] <shredding> i think changing from os.walk to a glob based python algorithm already did some major improvements.
[09:51] <shredding> hm, well it didn't
[09:53] <shredding> but actually it looks like the disk io is not he major problem, but the parsing of the content with beautifulsoup
[09:53] <mcphail> beautifulsoup is slow
[09:55] <root> hi
[09:55] <Guest37153> l
[09:55] <Guest37153> hi
[10:20] <wannaswitch> hi, planning to switch to linux & install it on Lenovo Yoga 260. I'm going for the i3 version so the components are going to be different from what's listed at the ubuntu certified list. How strictly should they match?
[10:21] <bojan> I have bug after suspend on ubuntu mate 16.04 ,please help
[10:23] <hateball> wannaswitch: well your biggest headaches driverwise would be GPU and wifi, so as long as they're the same then you should be fine I guess
[10:23] <hateball> rarely see any cpu related issues these days
[10:23] <bojan> I use acer aspire 7720 ,old laptop,other stuffs work fine for now
[10:26] <zamba> does ubuntu support the bcrypt hash in /etc/shadow?
[10:26] <bojan> when I pushed a force shutdown or simple shutdown it wont suspend,so I need to restart the computer and then it works fine
[10:27] <bojan> nvidia driver updated,and intel firmware also ,..
[10:29] <wannaswitch> mm, wifi is intel 8260 2x2 AC, not the broadcom. gpu both skylake
[10:32] <bojan> many people reported this problem with suspend on laptops,obviosly its a bug,linux mint 18.01 also has that problem too,and what else can I say it is lts version..
[10:33] <hateball> bojan: are you using 16.04?
[10:33] <bojan> yes I am
[10:34] <bojan> great distro,but that bug is annoying
[10:34] <hateball> bojan: you could try using a later kernel with HWE for xenial maybe
[10:34] <hateball> !hwe
[10:35] <bojan> I ll try ,thanks man,..
[10:35] <TafThorne> pynik_, thank you for your help.  I will try and setup the rotating network caputre in time for the next issue.
[10:36] <rizonz> someone preseeding against 64 bits mirrors only ?
[10:36] <hateball> bojan: as you can see from that wiki page: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
[10:37] <rizonz> hateball: he man! how are you ?
[10:37] <wannaswitch> thanks hateball, I think I dodged a bullet with your help
[10:37] <gogeta> sleeps
[10:39] <hateball> wannaswitch: how so?
[10:39] <wannaswitch> that wifi card intel 8260 seems like trouble
[10:40] <hateball> wannaswitch: generally... intel is your best bet tho
[10:40] <gogeta> amd 4 life
[10:40] <hateball> wannaswitch: fixes appear released, if you saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1647826
[10:41] <wannaswitch> I see. I wonder if I should browse for kernel versions now
[10:42] <hateball> wannaswitch: which version of ubuntu do you intend to install? 17.04 comes with 4.10
[10:42] <wannaswitch> no other intentions than to try to follow this: https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201512-20419/
[10:42] <wannaswitch> I'm am utterly clueless, and wish to take no risks :)
[10:44] <wannaswitch> and the version I'd buy has i3-6100, wifi intel 8260 2x2,
[10:44] <hateball> for skylake gpu you will want a rather updated kernel/xorg at any rate. so if you go for LTS you may need to use HWE
[10:44] <bojan> hateball I tried  it over terminal and it said that I have that version of kernel,nothing to update or upgrade at all
[10:44] <hateball> bojan: what's the output of "uname -r" ?
[10:51] <bojan> linux-generic-hwe-16.04 is already the newest version (4.8.0.49.21).
[10:51] <bojan> xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 is already the newest version (1:7.7+13ubuntu4~16.04.2).
[10:51] <bojan> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:51] <bojan> bojan@bojan-Aspire-7720:~$
[10:51] <bojan> that is shown up into terminal
[10:52] <hateball> bojan: what's the output of "uname -r" ?
[10:52] <hateball> It's one thing to install a kernel, another to use it :)
[10:53] <bojan> can you explain me a little better about that output hateball
[10:53] <hateball> bojan: if you just run "uname -r" in a terminal, that shows which kernel version you are currently running
[10:54] <bojan> I didnt use linux along time ago ,and forgot some things
[10:54] <hateball> having 4.8.0.49 *installed* doesnt mean much if you have booted something else
[10:54] <hateball> as you can have multiple kernels
[10:54] <bojan> ok
[10:55] <bojan> bojan@bojan-Aspire-7720:~$ uname -r
[10:55] <bojan> 4.8.0-49-generic
[10:55] <bojan> bojan@bojan-Aspire-7720:~
[10:55] <hateball> bojan: yea that is good, means you are using what you have installed
[10:55] <hateball> bojan: what is less good is that you are still having problems
[10:56] <bojan> miner problem ,but I have problem,like I said before only when I restart laptop it works fine again on a suspend and have no problem
[10:57] <hateball> bojan: which nvidia driver version?
[10:57] <bojan> just a second
[10:57] <hateball> bojan: you can launch "nvidia-settings" and it should say
[10:58] <hateball> bojan: if you are using 16.04 default driver then there are known resume bugs
[10:58] <bojan> yeah ,I know that
[11:00] <bojan> nvidia ge force 8400 mGS ,driver Nvidia binary driver version 340.102,proprietary tested version
[11:02] <bojan> also using Processor microcode firmware for intel cpus,from intel microcode proprietary
[11:03] <hateball> bojan: yeah, that's considered the "legacy" driver but there is no later one for your chipset so...
[11:03] <wannaswitch> maybe someone wants to recommend me a machine. I'm looking for a 25-30cm touch screen laptop, preferably fanless
[11:03] <hateball> bojan: I dont really much else you can do other than to file a !bug against the kernel you're using
[11:04] <bojan> must do that ,tried almost everything
[11:04] <wannaswitch> and I'm trying to stay to a low budget, 1k euros or something like that. if I go 2k, then I can simply buy the xps 13
[11:04] <hateball> !bug | bojan
[11:05] <bojan> I ll do that ,thanks again
[11:07] <pynki_> wannaswitch, have a look at the dells
[11:07] <bojan> I also tried mint 18.01 cinamon ,great distro,but also the same problem with suspend and wi fi network
[11:08] <wannaswitch> I browsed some inspirons. I think they were some of the widest machines I found
[11:08] <hateball> wannaswitch: you could try asking in ##hardware
[11:08] <wannaswitch> thanks
[11:08] <bojan> even worse than mate 16.04,so for now I ll stick with mate,
[11:08] <gogeta> lol
[11:09] <gogeta> bojan, you can use the 3rd party messa drivers there mutch faster then stock 16.04 adds support for open gl 4 etc
[11:11] <bojan> gogeta ,try that too ,it messed up my touchpad ,completely freezed the system
[11:12] <Wiek> Hello
[11:12] <Wiek> Sorry what command can use for  view the hd mounted?
[11:13] <pynki_> df -h for example
[11:13] <pynki_> bad example
[11:13] <EriC^^> Wiek: "lsblk" or ^
[11:13] <hateball> Wiek: What do mean "view" ?
[11:13] <pynki_> but should show it to you
[11:14] <_arktos75_> Wiek https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID
[11:14] <hateball> Wiek: "mount" will show where a device/partition is mounted and with what options
[11:14] <hateball> So... many ways to do stuff when "view" is undefined
[11:15] <_arktos75_> yep
[11:16] <wannaswitch> actually dell inspiron 11 3157 seems magnificent
[11:19] <bojan> ubottu ,its bad that the system cant automatically recognize the bug ,all bugs and send them directly to be seen ,.
[11:19] <bojan> haha
[11:21] <serdar> hello
[11:23] <gogeta> bojan, talking to the bot are we
[11:25] <snadge> is there going to be unity like features added to gnome shell to ease the transition?
[11:26] <snadge> Perhaps a better question is.. when is this question most likely going to be answered publically? just so we have some kind of reassurance
[11:26] <gogeta> snadge, gnome has them unity was based off gtk
[11:26] <Guest73469> do i need a static ip for my home server?
[11:26] <gogeta> snadge, im shure they will have there own spin on the teaming thow
[11:27] <snadge> Unity was its own thing based around compiz.. wayland and the gnome compositor are quite a bit different
[11:28] <bojan> snadge,gnome is simpler ,for me it is better to use
[11:28] <snadge> tge transition will be a little jarring for some at this present time, so i feel its a pertinent question
[11:28] <gogeta> snadge, unity was part o the blowback agenst gnome 3
[11:28] <snadge> yeah but i still prefer unity 7 to gnone shell at this current time
[11:28] <gogeta> snadge, now gnome 3 kinda does not suck now
[11:29] <snadge> it sucks less yes.. but it still has sone issues
[11:29] <ducasse> snadge: the only thing that has been said is that they will try to provide a clean experience like upstream intended it.
[11:29] <gogeta> snadge, yes but that can be fixed by addons :)
[11:29] <bojan> I missed old ubuntu 10.04 ,10.10 ,that was great distros and stable,very stable
[11:29] <gogeta> dont we all
[11:29] <gogeta> gnome 2 all was good
[11:30] <bojan> yeah the best ,my first linux
[11:30] <gogeta> for a time all was good then gnome devs lost there minds
[11:31] <snadge> im not that nostalgic.. it sounds like to me, ubuntu will just be what ubuntu gnome was
[11:31] <gogeta> started that we know better then you attude
[11:31] <snadge> like upstream intended is the part that deeply concerns me
[11:31] <gogeta> so everyone stayed away from gnome 3
[11:32] <lambada> bonjour
[11:32] <gogeta> they got the idea after they where not used by anybody for the last 7 years
[11:32] <bojan> I ll certainly stayed away
[11:32] <snadge> To heck with what they think..thats part of why unity was created in the first place.. upstreams decisions cant be entirely trusted or considered rational at all times
[11:33] <lambada> pourquoi j'ai plus acces a internet ?
[11:33] <gogeta> its how xorg was born
[11:33] <blackflow> !fr | lambada
[11:33] <gogeta> xfree lost there minds in a simmler way
[11:33] <lambada> ho, dsl, merci
[11:33] <snadge> Forking gnome just because you dont lije one or two things about the interface is daft
[11:34] <lambada> je vais essayer
[11:34] <ducasse> !discuss
[11:34] <gogeta> snadge, it was more then a interface problem it was the we know better you cant change anything attude
[11:35] <gogeta> snadge, they finnly quit that crap but it took years
[11:35] <bojan> nice quit discussion ,nothing else
[11:35] <lambada> ca y est?
[11:36] <Guest61209> I have big problems. after upgrading to zeisty, my server is not booting anymore.
[11:36] <ducasse> bojan: you don't need to quit, but move it to an appropriate channel. this channel is for support issues only.
[11:36] <Guest61209> I booted the  recovery mode, but for some reason I cannot mount the disks
[11:37] <Ben64> Guest61209: can you give more detail
[11:38] <Guest61209> ARRAY /dev/md1 UUID=792eb569:39555c7f:7eccbec1:0cbd97cb and if I try to mount it, I get this: mount: special device /dev/md1 does not exist
[11:38] <ikonia> probably because the array doesn't exist in recovery mode as it's not started
[11:39] <Serdar1> hmm
[11:39] <Serdar1> ikonia, what exactly do you mean has not startetd?
[11:40] <gogeta> Serdar1, just fdisk -l
[11:40] <ikonia> the software raid array has not been started
[11:40] <gogeta> Serdar1, see where your drives are at them mount them
[11:41] <Serdar1> gogeta, they are not mounted
[11:41] <Serdar1> ikonia, I will check, thanks
[11:41] <gogeta> you can still list them
[11:41] <quem> ubottu: what
[11:42] <Serdar1> gogeta, I have 3 of these /dev/sdb1  *           63    1992059    1991997 972.7M fd Linux raid autodetect and one swap on two devices.
[11:43] <Serdar1> sda1,3,4 are raid and 2 is swap
[11:43] <Serdar1> same for sdb
[11:44] <gogeta> Serdar1, should be able to mount them as /dev/sdx then
[11:44] <gogeta> Serdar1, rather then md1
[11:44] <Serdar1> gogeta, that was the first thing I tried
[11:44] <Serdar1> mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[11:45] <gogeta> Serdar1, so the raid broke
[11:45] <gogeta> Serdar1, thinks
[11:47] <wannaswitch> is gaming a big thing among linux users?
[11:47] <gogeta> Serdar1, do you have mdadm you may be able to rebuild it
[11:48] <gogeta> Serdar1, it sounds like your softwhare raid is the issue
[11:50] <blackflow> wannaswitch: with thousands of games for linux on steam, I'd say it's a pretty big thing.
[11:51] <gogeta> wannaswitch, its a growing market for shure
[11:51] <gogeta> wannaswitch, linux is good with the native ports and older games
[11:53] <gogeta> Serdar1, https://askubuntu.com/questions/11293/rebuild-mdadm-raid5-after-os-hard-drive-died
[11:54] <gogeta> Serdar1, simmler problem but has a howto on rebulding the array
[11:54] <Serdar1> thanks gogeta I will check
[11:54] <K-ubuntuer> Hello
[11:55] <K-ubuntuer> Should I install kde on ubuntu alongside unity?
[11:55] <Ben64> if you want to, yes
[11:55] <gogeta> K-ubuntuer, you can install any wm you please
[11:56] <K-ubuntuer> But will my Slow my PC?
[11:56] <K-ubuntuer> Plus I don't want a Virtual Machine
[11:56] <gogeta> K-ubuntuer, no as it will only run if you slect it
[11:56] <gogeta> K-ubuntuer, you switch wm at your login screen
[11:56] <K-ubuntuer> But are there any pros and cons of doing so?
[11:56] <K-ubuntuer> I know
[11:57] <gogeta> K-ubuntuer, no real cons other then you have apps from other wm installs showing up on all your wm
[11:57] <K-ubuntuer> But what about pros and cons about hybrid desktops?
[11:58] <K-ubuntuer> Such as a slow pc because of all processes running
[11:58] <K-ubuntuer> At the same time?
[11:58] <gogeta> K-ubuntuer, not how it works
[11:58] <K-ubuntuer> Oh then how?
[11:58] <ducasse> K-ubuntuer: they won't be running at the same time
[11:59] <K-ubuntuer> So no cons at all?
[11:59] <Serdar1> mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdXX /dev/sdYY .... <-- worked
[11:59] <gogeta> Serdar1, :)
[11:59] <K-ubuntuer> :) that's great
[11:59] <gogeta> Serdar1, make shure you save the configs
[12:00] <gogeta> Serdar1, as its shown
[12:00] <K-ubuntuer> Hey, who has upgraded to ubuntu 17.04?
[12:01] <wannaswitch> what does it mean when http://www.feedthepenguin.org/t100ha.html says "updates to kernels coming soon"
[12:01] <MrElendig> K-ubuntuer: that drunken dude in the gutter behind lidl
[12:02] <K-ubuntuer> :/ what do u mean? That's off topic!
[12:03] <MrElendig> K-ubuntuer: no, that was a answer to your question
[12:03] <K-ubuntuer> Anyways, it's sad that canonical is dropping support for unity.
[12:03] <MrElendig> it was not unexpected
[12:03] <ducasse> wannaswitch: you would need to ask him what he means.
[12:03] <K-ubuntuer> Plus, I dont want to talk about drunken men please
[12:04] <wannaswitch> yea, I guess so
[12:04] <K-ubuntuer> Yeah I want to talk about ubuntu.
[12:05] <K-ubuntuer> Old school? That reminds me of older version of ubuntu
[12:06] <gogeta> i would not poke those ops to mutch
[12:06] <K-ubuntuer> What do you mean?
[12:06] <gogeta> they get zomg offtopic get crazy
[12:07] <K-ubuntuer> Yes I know right
[12:08] <K-ubuntuer> But why is the off topic message not coming up? From the server?
[12:08] <Ben64> it's easy, if you don't have a support question, there is #ubuntu-offtopic, or #ubuntu-discuss to discuss ubuntu stuff
[12:08] <K-ubuntuer> Yes but this is on topic #ubuntu support
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:08] <K-ubuntuer> Hi
[12:12] <K-ubuntuer> Are people on irc for nothing?
[12:13] <K-ubuntuer> Which command shall I install kde from? Sudo apt-get plasma-desktop kubuntu
[12:13] <K-ubuntuer> -desktop
[12:13] <K-ubuntuer> Or full-kde-desktop
[12:13] <K-ubuntuer> Or something like that
[12:16] <ducasse> plasma-desktop will install the desktop itself, kubuntu-desktop, drags in everything you would get if you installed from the kubuntu image.
[12:16] <K-ubuntuer> But which one is better?
[12:17] <ducasse> depends on what you want.
[12:17] <K-ubuntuer> Plus kubuntu-desktop shows it will take 1308 MB
[12:17] <K-ubuntuer> Which is loads
[12:17] <K-ubuntuer> Of disk space
[12:18] <ducasse> yes, it includes the default applications and the kitchen sink.
[12:18] <K-ubuntuer> Oh so kubuntu-desktop then?
[12:18] <K-ubuntuer> But can both desktops interfere?
[12:18] <hateball> I wonder if the telepathy bug is fixed yet...
[12:19] <ducasse> if that's what you want :) if all you want is the desktop then you install plasma-desktop.
[12:19] <K-ubuntuer> For example the grub boot loader
[12:19] <soop> K-ubuntuer: kde has no inference on your boot loader
[12:19] <soop> you can pick between the desktop at log in if you so desire
[12:19] <hateball> K-ubuntuer: what can be a problem if you install alongside say ubuntu-desktop is https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1451728
[12:20] <K-ubuntuer> Once it did with its own blue grub
[12:20] <ikonia> blue grub ?
[12:20] <K-ubuntuer> Yes
[12:20] <K-ubuntuer> Kubuntus own grub
[12:20] <K-ubuntuer> And boot logo
[12:20] <hateball> there's no own grub, just a different plymouth splash
[12:20] <hateball> and sddm instead of lightdm for login
[12:20] <ikonia> kubuntu is nothing to do with grub
[12:21] <K-ubuntuer> That's what I don't want
[12:21] <K-ubuntuer> Another Plymouth boot screen
[12:21] <ducasse> then don't install kubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <K-ubuntuer> And I like lightdm
[12:21] <hateball> you're free to use whatever, it can be changed afterwards
[12:21] <K-ubuntuer> Oh ok
[12:21] <hateball> ssdm is preferable if you use plasma as it has integrations with pam_wallet and such
[12:21] <K-ubuntuer> Oh
[12:21] <hateball> but again, you dont have to use it. it's just better.
[12:22] <K-ubuntuer> So what is lightdm vs ssdm
[12:22] <hateball> I mean sddm, not ssdm
[12:22] <hateball> damn acronyms
[12:22] <K-ubuntuer> It's ok
[12:23] <K-ubuntuer> Oh I see sddm
[12:23] <K-ubuntuer> But still I prefer lightdm
[12:24] <K-ubuntuer> Will ubuntu upgrades take longer?
[12:25] <hateball> The more packages you have installed, the more will be upgraded
[12:25] <K-ubuntuer> Oh :( there is a con
[12:25] <K-ubuntuer> More data and takes longer
[12:26] <K-ubuntuer> Ugh. I wish I had an ssd
[12:27] <K-ubuntuer> Any good ssd offers that are compatible with ubuntu?
[12:27] <gogeta> K-ubuntuer, nope all broken
[12:28] <K-ubuntuer> Oh :( then fast hard drives? :)
[12:28] <gogeta> K-ubuntuer, no hdd drives work eyther
[12:28] <K-ubuntuer> Oh :(
[12:28] <gogeta> K-ubuntuer, lol of course ssd work
[12:28] <K-ubuntuer> But any good offers?
[12:28] <K-ubuntuer> That's what I mean :) XD
[12:29] <Ben64> K-ubuntuer: please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <K-ubuntuer> Oh ok sure
[12:32] <K-ubuntuer> Anyways, how do I prevent my computer crashing while updating? It does it frequently
[12:32] <Ben64> how does it crash?
[12:33] <gogeta> throw it out the window
[12:33] <K-ubuntuer> Unresponsively
[12:33] <K-ubuntuer> No I don't want to
[12:33] <K-ubuntuer> It's my laptop :)
[12:33] <pynki> while updateing?
[12:33] <Ben64> i mean, any error message or anything?
[12:33] <K-ubuntuer> No just crashes
[12:33] <K-ubuntuer> That slow my PC
[12:34] <Ben64> so it slows down or crashes?
[12:34] <K-ubuntuer> And I mean an full distribution upgrade
[12:34] <K-ubuntuer> Yes both
[12:34] <Ben64> which one? they're not the same thing.
[12:34] <K-ubuntuer> Distribution upgrade
[12:34] <pynki> you frequently do release updates?
[12:34] <K-ubuntuer> No
[12:35] <K-ubuntuer> When I do, and it crashes, I have to reinstall ubuntu
[12:35] <K-ubuntuer> Since it is corrupt
[12:35] <Ben64> still not sure what you mean by crash
[12:35] <K-ubuntuer> Unresponsive, hangs up and so on
[12:35] <Ben64> that's not a crash
[12:35] <K-ubuntuer> Then what?
[12:36] <pynki> a slow computer
[12:36] <Ben64> that would be called lag or slowdown or something along those lines
[12:36] <K-ubuntuer> D: my ram and cpu (and so on and so on) are good
[12:36] <K-ubuntuer> Fast on anything else
[12:36] <K-ubuntuer> That's not an distribution upgrade
[12:37] <hateball> have you checked your HDD for errors?
[12:37] <K-ubuntuer> Oh erm, no
[12:37] <K-ubuntuer> Not in a long while
[12:37] <Ben64> you said laptop, so it probably has a very slow hard drive
[12:37] <hateball> sudo apt install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[12:37] <Ben64> that could cause the system to slow down under heavy load
[12:37] <K-ubuntuer> Ok I'll try that command now
[12:38] <Zeno-chan> I just jumped in so I'm confused, but I'm assuming your on KDE?
[12:38] <K-ubuntuer> No I'm on unity
[12:38] <K-ubuntuer> Almost dead unity :(
[12:39] <Zeno-chan> Okay, I just thought that because of your username
[12:39] <K-ubuntuer> But I may move onto gnome or kde next
[12:39] <K-ubuntuer> Ok I'm running that command
[12:39] <gogeta> xfce you plebs
[12:39] <Zeno-chan> How long have you been using Ubuntu (or linux in general)
[12:40] <K-ubuntuer> A few years
[12:40] <K-ubuntuer> And what does that command install?
[12:40] <K-ubuntuer> Oh a he'd scan
[12:40] <pynki> !info smartmontools | K-ubuntuer
[12:40] <K-ubuntuer> *hdd
[12:40] <K-ubuntuer> I know
[12:41] <K-ubuntuer> It installed a few other packages
[12:41] <K-ubuntuer> Something to do with mail???
[12:41] <Zeno-chan> Okay, I was making sure you wern't new to linux, and the command above installs smartmontools, before that it installs dependencies
[12:41] <Zeno-chan> I'll go try and see
[12:42] <K-ubuntuer> There is an error
[12:42] <Zeno-chan> it didn't install mail-transport-agent, it just supports it. What is the error?
[12:43] <buco> hi
[12:43] <buco> I cant change the ubuntu update server
[12:43] <buco> wont take my password
[12:43] <ikonia> what won't
[12:44] <buco> when I try to authenticate
[12:44] <K-ubuntuer> I'm not sure
[12:44] <K-ubuntuer> Oh
[12:44] <Zeno-chan> Did you prefix it with "sudo"
[12:44] <ikonia> buco: authenticate with what
[12:44] <K-ubuntuer> Yes
[12:44] <pynki> can i migrate my debian postfix-dovecot install to a ubuntu server without larger issues?
[12:44] <gogeta> buco, i cought like half that
[12:44] <adokai> hello
[12:44] <K-ubuntuer> Hi
[12:45] <buco> http://imgur.com/a/mXCeF
[12:45] <gogeta> buco, umm check for capslock
[12:45] <gogeta> buco, and correct password
[12:45] <buco> does it want the sudo password
[12:45] <buco> I mean su
[12:45] <pynki> exactly
[12:45] <gogeta> buco, yes
[12:45] <buco> or su -i
[12:45] <gogeta> sudo password
[12:46] <pynki> the one you use for sudo
[12:46] <Ben64> buco: nothing needs the su password, since that doesn't exist
[12:46] <buco> Ben64 yeah thats why I wondered
[12:46] <gogeta> Ben64, its a server it may
[12:46] <Ben64> gogeta: servers don't have gui
[12:46] <pynki> Ben64, thats not you decision
[12:47] <knofte> pynki: yes, might be some directories differ, but with reading the logs, one should be fine.
[12:48] <Zeno-chan> gogeta: This may be off topic but are you a DBZ fan? (assuming so because of the name)
[12:48] <buco> well. it worked +
[12:48] <pynki> knofte, sounds good. i will abckup the thing and give it a go :)
[12:48] <gogeta> Zeno-chan, had this name for like 15 years now :)
[12:48] <K-ubuntuer> What's my :)
[12:48] <K-ubuntuer> Oh
[12:48] <K-ubuntuer> My iPad
[12:48] <knofte> pynki: good luck :)
[12:48] <buco> it still cant find the package libimobiledevice though
[12:49] <Zeno-chan> gogeta: So you aren't then?
[12:50]  * pynki needs a mirror server :/
[12:50] <pynki> thanks @knofte
[12:50] <gogeta> Zeno-chan, i am but the name was made what when did redhat 6 come out 98
[12:50] <K-ubuntuer> That was looooong
[12:50] <K-ubuntuer> Windows 98????
[12:50] <K-ubuntuer> Red hat 6????
[12:51] <gogeta> 1998 buddy
[12:51] <Zeno-chan> I wasn't even alive...
[12:51] <gogeta> Zeno-chan, i was shocked it was not taken lol
[12:51] <K-ubuntuer> Hehe :) the old days of 98
[12:52] <buco> are all the repos the same ?
[12:52] <buco> or why can some people install what I need without doing any change to their ubuntu
[12:53] <K-ubuntuer> You can't
[12:53] <K-ubuntuer> You have to make changes
[12:53] <gogeta> buco, i dont even fully get your problem something with a password
[12:53] <buco> gogeta password issue was solved
[12:53] <gogeta> buco, :)
[12:53] <buco> I try to install libimobiledevice
[12:53] <buco> which happens to be in the official ubuntu software app for some people
[12:54] <buco> but not for me
[12:54] <gogeta> buco, you can always install threw sudo apt-get install apname
[12:54] <buco> I did
[12:54] <pynki> !info imobiledevice
[12:55] <buco> !info libimobiledevice
[12:55] <gogeta> buco, if its not in offical repos then you need to find a ppa normaly
[12:55] <K-ubuntuer> Yes it doesn't
[12:55] <geirha> !info libimobiledevice6
[12:56] <gogeta> forgot the numer 6
[12:56] <gogeta> number
[12:58] <buco> parallels@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ ./SemiRestore-x86_64
[12:58] <buco> ./SemiRestore-x86_64: error while loading shared libraries: libimobiledevice.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:58] <buco> thx geirha by the way.
[12:59] <geirha> buco: apparently built against an older version of the library
[12:59] <buco> from the Readme: On the device, you will need afc2 installed. On the computer, you'll need the following (most should be installed by default): GTK 3.0 or higher, libimobiledevice 1.0 or higher, and libssh2.
[13:01] <geirha> it installs libimobiledevice.so.6 instead of .so.4, so I'm guessing there's too many backwards breaking changes for it to be compatible with older versions of the lib. Or it could just be bad packaging.
[13:02] <buco> alright I will just try to get the files manually
[13:05] <MrElendig> buco: is this thing open source?
[13:06] <buco> https://paste.ee/p/4gVvt
[13:06] <buco> it seems there is no folder for current distro
[13:06] <pynki> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/libimobiledevice_1.1.1-4.debian.tar.gz
[13:06] <buco> xenial
[13:07] <buco> can I just take another one?
[13:07] <buco> oh thy for the link. havent seen it
[13:08] <pynki> not sure whats inside ;) on awindows right nwo..
[13:09] <Toxtlo> Hi, I think of buying an intel xeon cpu, aiming to upgrade it to a dual cpu setup later under ubuntu. Is there anything special I have to watch out for?
[13:10] <pynki> Toxtlo, do not save money on the motherboard
[13:10] <Toxtlo> the guy on the shop I want to buy the components recommended the ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS
[13:11] <Toxtlo> but there was also a D16 version, dont know where the difference is right now; still reading about all this stuff right now
[13:12] <MrElendig> if this is open source then just build it yourself
[13:12] <Toxtlo> what would you recommend pynki?
[13:13] <Toxtlo> sry, it was the Z10PE-D8 not the Z9PE
[13:13] <pynki> Toxtlo, nothing - i am actually the wrong one to ask! but i knwo people like fancy CPUs and buy cheap motherboards :D
[13:13] <Toxtlo> ^^ ok
[13:13] <gogeta> umm fancy gpu
[13:14] <ducasse> Toxtlo: this is probably a better question for ##hardware
[13:14] <gogeta> but i have a intel gma video chip bwhahahaha
[13:14] <pynki> but if you want a dual cpu setup the motherboard will have an impact on the communication between them
[13:14] <gogeta> buy a ryzen save 500$ go home
[13:15] <Toxtlo> thought about a ryzen too, yes
[13:15] <pynki> Toxtlo, what do you need? thats the question?
[13:15] <pynki> -?
[13:16] <Toxtlo> running ubuntu, one win8.1 vm and one win7 vm
[13:16] <gogeta> pynki, hes dual cpu probly no cheap on that
[13:16] <Toxtlo> right now got a i5 6600k which cannot handle that...
[13:16] <gogeta> Toxtlo, so why xeons for that
[13:17] <gogeta> Toxtlo, why not
[13:17] <Toxtlo> it was just one option besides ryzen which I am thinking of
[13:17] <Toxtlo> at work I have a dual xeon workstation
[13:17] <Toxtlo> I do a lot of stuff with visual studio and MATLAB
[13:17] <gogeta> Toxtlo, why all the vms
[13:17] <Toxtlo> and these dual xeons work just fine
[13:18] <Toxtlo> at work I mean
[13:19] <gogeta> Toxtlo, just sounds like you get the vms setup to use all they can ratehr then split the avable threds etc
[13:19] <pynki> but do you need like 128 cores and 1234544GB RAM? or are 8 cores and 64gb enough?
[13:19] <Toxtlo> so I just thinking of some builds, one is an ASUS Prime X370 Pro with a ryzen, another would be a dual xeon which I am reading and asking about now
[13:19] <piyush_> any one know instant messenger for local network ? should work linux to window.
[13:19] <pynki> piyush_, without local server?
[13:19] <buco> https://paste.ee/p/L4vXY
[13:19] <gogeta> piyush_, it should as long as thers a windows version
[13:19] <Toxtlo> aiming for 24+ GB RAM
[13:20] <Toxtlo> 8 cores
[13:20] <Toxtlo> the xeon I have in mind got HT
[13:20] <piyush_> I tried Lan Messenger but not working.
[13:20] <buco> https://paste.ee/p/16ngj
[13:20] <buco> does that make even sense? I cant see the autogen file
[13:20] <gogeta> Toxtlo, most intel have ht
[13:20] <piyush_> pynki, doesn't matter about local server.
[13:21] <gogeta> Texou, and so does ryzen
[13:21] <pynki> then setup a xmpp server
[13:21] <gogeta> Texou, it sounds like a vm setup problem them your current cpu being to weak
[13:21] <Toxtlo> y gogeta, the ryzen 1700x or 1800x would also be an option, the xeon I have in mind would be a E5-2623v4
[13:21] <pynki> piyush_, that the first link ifind for eJabbered https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-ejabberd-xmpp-server-on-ubuntu
[13:22] <gogeta> Toxtlo, limit eatch vm to 2 cores
[13:22] <piyush_> pynki, thanks. i really appreciate that.
[13:22] <gogeta> Toxtlo, and probly 1/3 ram
[13:22] <Toxtlo> then visual studio is taking forever on the VM I am programming O.o
[13:22] <pynki> gogeta, thats not an option if you really do stuff inside your vm's
[13:23] <Toxtlo> and MATLAB wont handle that
[13:23] <gogeta> Toxtlo, why 2 vms anyways
[13:23] <gogeta> sounds like a massive wast of power
[13:23] <Southern_Gentlem> matlab has linux ports
[13:24] <piyush_> pynki, do you know any app that just work like ipmsgr ?
[13:24] <Southern_Gentlem> and there is always octave as well
[13:24] <Toxtlo> on the other one I'm running a programm in parallel. MATLAB is already installed under linux, yes, but no matter where, compiling a bigger simulink model is taking pretty much RAM and time
[13:25] <gogeta> Toxtlo, i relly would not be using vms on a compile box
[13:25] <Toxtlo> so one VM is always up and needs at least one thread 100%, than one win vm with visual studio and MATLAB under ubuntu :-P my i5 cant handle that
[13:26] <gogeta> Toxtlo, i would get another machine
[13:26] <Toxtlo> thought about that too... with remote desktop etc.. but got two big monitors and I like the setup...
[13:27] <gogeta> Toxtlo, for the cash need to build out a system crazy enough to handel vms and compiling you can buy a small army of worstations
[13:28] <Toxtlo> first I would get one xeon and the board, work some time for the next xeon and some additional RAM ;)
[13:28] <kristhian> hi guys, i forgot the command to check the version of ubuntu?
[13:28] <kristhian> ls_usb?
[13:28] <gogeta> Toxtlo, yea price that xeon server ram etc
[13:28] <gogeta> Texou, then price some workstations lol
[13:29] <pynki> piyush_, whats ipnsgr?
[13:29] <pynki> piyush_, a program that opens udp sockets is written in 20 minutes....
[13:29] <ducasse> kristhian: lsb_release -a
[13:30] <gogeta> Texou, going that crazy is only if you have like 100 users
[13:30] <Toxtlo> y.. but back to the xeons, the E5-2623v3 "wins" against its v4 version in the benchmarks. But thats probably not what I should be looking for right?
[13:30] <kristhian> aw, ok
[13:30] <kristhian> thanks
[13:30] <rockyh> how to install additional UNICODE sets? I can't see much of the characters beyond 26c4 in this (http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/category/So/list.htm) page
[13:30] <Southern_Gentlem> Toxtlo,  i am sittinghere install 2017a at the moment
[13:30] <kristhian> how about the if i wanted to know if i am on 32 or 64 bit os?
[13:30] <pynki> piyush_, but you want a multi platform solution... :P
[13:31] <pynki> piyush_, http://beebeep.sourceforge.net/
[13:31] <kristhian> x86_64 <- stands for 64 bit os right?
[13:31] <Southern_Gentlem> Toxtlo, we are having great results with cuda
[13:31] <Southern_Gentlem> kristhian, yes
[13:31] <gogeta> Texou, for what your using them for go for the most power yes
[13:31] <gogeta> Texou, as compoling is cpu heavy
[13:32] <Toxtlo> but ubuntu can handle two xeons setups?
[13:32] <gogeta> Texou, no reasion it whont
[13:33] <Toxtlo> ok, just asking, when I first bought my skylake I had big trouble to get it to work :-P
[13:33] <gogeta> Texou, personaly i say overskill for only nedding 3 machines but have at it
[13:33] <gogeta> overkill
[13:34] <gogeta> Toxtlo, becouse lts tend not to have the newer kernels
[13:34] <gogeta> Toxtlo, so new chipsets can be a issue
[13:34] <Leoneof> hi, where to get or download beautiful ubuntu's icons? i'm using debian :)
[13:34] <Toxtlo> I already upgraded to ubuntu 17.04 and kernel 4.10
[13:35] <piyush_> pynki, it's IP Messenger.
[13:35] <gogeta> Toxtlo, :)
[13:35] <Toxtlo> as I heard ryzen could make problems
[13:35] <gogeta> Toxtlo, its working ok now in kernel 4.10
[13:35] <gogeta> Toxtlo, but it is new sso bugs can be bad
[13:36] <Toxtlo> ok, so whatever it will be I should be fine with 17.4 and the 4.10 kernel :-D
[13:36] <dreamcat4> so whats the state of wayland on ubuntu these days?
[13:36] <gogeta> should be
[13:36] <gogeta> dreamcat4, wayland won
[13:37] <gogeta> dreamcat4, unity/miar dead
[13:37] <Toxtlo> I really like unity ... :-(
[13:37] <dreamcat4> sure i know that... but it doesnt mean that wayland is ready yet
[13:37] <dreamcat4> so how has it been progressing recently?
[13:38] <ducasse> Toxtlo: a guy with a ryzen was in here yesterday, he had trouble even with 4.11rc8
[13:38] <Toxtlo> O.o oh
[13:38] <gogeta> oh
[13:38] <ducasse> dreamcat4: try it out for yourself
[13:38] <Toxtlo> do you remember what kind of problem?
[13:39] <dreamcat4> ducasse: i'd like to. but am stuck on 16.04 for the time being.
[13:39] <ducasse> it had trouble booting the initramfs, i can't recall the exact error. he fixed the first problem and immediately hit another :)
[13:39] <dreamcat4> the question was for Toxtlo
[13:40] <Toxtlo> mhh, ok... good to know, beta test again, as with skylake :-D
[13:40] <Toxtlo> but I kind of liked that ^^
[13:40] <gogeta> lol
[13:41] <gogeta> i think the probly was amds driver got rejected
[13:41] <Toxtlo> I'm pretty nooby when it comes to these things, so its an opportunity to learn something new :-D
[13:41] <gogeta> bad formating or something
[13:41] <gogeta> there is a kernel for ryzen called amd staging
[13:41] <gogeta> that seems to work
[13:42] <Toxtlo> ok, if it will be AMD I'll keep that in mind
[13:43] <gogeta> i rember saying it might be in 4.10 guess it didnt happen
[13:43] <gogeta> probly 4.11 4.12
[13:46] <luca__> hello
[13:47] <Zeno-chan> hello
[13:47] <akik> there's no way to tell the ubuntu installer that even though i select the finnish keyboard layout, i want to use english as the ui language. any hope that there would be a language and keyboard selection separately?
[13:48] <luca__> i tried to install ubuntu and other distros
[13:49] <luca__> but i cant even go to the installer
[13:50] <luca__> because the monitor goes black
[13:50] <luca__> and the gpu and cpu  spin up 100%
[13:50] <K-ubuntuer> I really like unity too, but what's the problem?
[13:51] <K-ubuntuer> How new is your hardware?
[13:51] <luca__> my?
[13:51] <ducasse> !nomodeset | luca__
[13:53] <luca__> knoppix live cd works
[13:53] <ducasse> luca__: see the message from ubottu
[13:54] <K-ubuntuer> Yes yours
[13:54] <K-ubuntuer> How new? New hardware is not directly supported on Linux by vendors.
[13:56] <luca__>  r9 380 ,amd x4 860k,sandisk ssd,asrock fm2+ extreme6+,corsair 760
[13:58] <luca__> its 2years old
[13:59] <ducasse> luca__: did you read ubottus message? if not, please do so.
[14:00] <luca__> the irc guidelines? yes
[14:00] <ducasse> luca__: no.
[14:00] <ducasse> !nomodeset | luca__
[14:00] <ducasse> !nomodeset > luca__
[14:01] <luca__> oh found it,thanks reading it
[14:07] <wadie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/909138/install-ubuntu-16-04-from-terminal
[14:07] <wadie> would love to get some assistance
[14:10] <vlt> wadie: Have you checked the checksum of the USB iso?  -- I always use debootstrap to install Ubuntu.
[14:10] <luca__> so im in the boot menu of my motherboard.should i use the ubuntu with uefi or ahci?
[14:10] <ikonia> luca__: they are two diferent things
[14:11] <ikonia> luca__: uefi/bios and ahci/raid/legacy
[14:11] <EriC^^> luca__: do you already have an OS installed?
[14:11] <ikonia> those are the two groups
[14:11] <wadie> luca__, good idea
[14:11] <wadie> I mean vlt xD
[14:11] <luca__> yes windows 8.1
[14:11] <EriC^^> luca__: then leave it as is
[14:11] <luca__> leave what?
[14:12] <EriC^^> the settings you mentioned
[14:12] <EriC^^> dont change them, leave them as they already are set
[14:12] <wadie> vlt the usb on try ubuntu shows as a 2.5MB volume and I can't access it :O how's that possible when I'm actually using it ?
[14:13] <luca__> i dont know which one is the default,nothin is set,with f11 im in the boot menu and now i can choose between booting the installationcd from ubuntu with uefi or  ahci.
[14:14] <EriC^^> luca__: boot it uefi right now
[14:14] <EriC^^> then do "sudo blkid /dev/sd?" in try ubuntu and see if it says PTTYPE=gpt
[14:15] <EriC^^> if the disk with windows says gpt then install in uefi
[14:16] <vlt> wadie: iirc one of the boot menu items on the Ubuntu boot iso is an md5sum self check.
[14:17] <vlt> wadie: If not, I'd compare the md5sum listed on download.ubuntu.com to the first size_of(iso file) bytes of /dev/sdX (the usb drive).
[14:18] <luca__> i cant make a "/", i use shift+7(thats my / key) bbut it makes a"&"
[14:19] <EriC^^> try pressing the button that has a ? on it
[14:21] <luca__> nothin happend
[14:21] <vlt> luca__: Or "-" left of the right shift key.
[14:21] <vlt> Or "/" on the num block.
[14:21] <luca__> worked thanks
[14:22] <wadie> vlt md5sum gives permission denied on the usb
[14:22] <wadie> and get nothing with sudo
[14:23] <wadie> I have mounted the ubuntu.iso on my try ubuntu now..how can I run that :O
[14:23] <vlt> wadie: What does "get nothing" mean?
[14:23] <wadie> nothing until I do ctrl+z to abort
[14:24] <vlt> wadie: ctrl+z usually puts the job in the background.
[14:24] <vlt> wadie: Reading the whole usb device takes a while.
[14:25] <wadie> I'll give it a whole then..
[14:25] <wadie> while
[14:25] <vlt> wadie: But ... you don't want to know the md5sum of the whole device, only the first size_of(iso_image) bytes.
[14:25] <wadie> I did a md5sum /dev/sdb
[14:26] <EriC^^> wadie: what's the size of the iso? try stat -c %s /path/to/iso
[14:27] <wadie> stat -c %s /dev/sdb
[14:27] <wadie> returns 0
[14:27] <luca__> i booted with uefi,clicked f6 for different options (try ubuntu without installing,check disk for defects etc. (there was grub 2 on the top end of the screen,is that the grub boot screen)), then i clicked c for ckmmand line,wrote'blkid dev/sd?' then it said "sudo command t found then clicked "try ubuntu without installin8g"
[14:32] <luca__> How to enable kernel options on the livecd (before install)  If you boot ubuntu from a livecd (or USB stick), right after the bios splash screen you will get a purple screen with a keyboard logo at the bottom:" is there a difference bewteen a live cd and the iso i downloaded from ubuntu download section?
[14:34] <ducasse> luca__: how to enable kernel options is explained in the thread ubottu linked you to earlier
[14:34] <Wulf> Hello! Since I upgraded to 17.04, my touchpad is mishaving. To click the middle button, I need to tap on the upper right instead of tapping 3 fingers at the same time. I want the old behaviour back. How?
[14:35] <EriC^^> luca__: that keyboard at the bottom is for legacy mode only
[14:35] <EriC^^> so never mind it you're booting in uefi
[14:35] <ducasse> Wulf: you can change touchpad settings with synclient, just enter 'synclient' in a terminal for a list of settings.
[14:36] <Wulf> ducasse: ok. How do I make the settings permanent?
[14:36] <luca__> i qouted ubottu,sorry i missed "". is there a difference between a live cd and the iso from the ubuntu download section?
[14:36] <ducasse> Wulf: you can put a line that runs synclient in ~/.xsessionrc
[14:36] <ducasse> luca__: no
[14:38] <Zeno-chan> I take it gogetta left?
[14:39] <Zeno-chan> *gogeta
[14:41] <wadie> vlt the md5sum checks out
[14:41] <wadie> identical
[14:42] <luca__> i cant make a = please help,i click it and other letters appear
[14:42] <akis> hi all. does anyone konw how date/timestamp works in print option of firefox and why instead of the current date&time i see 1/1/1970? Is there way to fix it? I know the procedure to stop be printing the date/timestamp but i am looking for a solution to get back the current one.
[14:44] <luca__> do you use qwerty? where is your = key please
[14:45] <EriC^^> luca__: it's next to backspace
[14:46] <luca__> use it with left shift? it makes a +
[14:46] <luca__> ok worked now thanks
[14:48] <aotaointbin> akis: 1970-01-01 is when the epoch began. you're printing the date string for timestamp 0.
[14:50] <luca__> i wrote acpi_osi= in the grub command line,but nothing happened only grub> appeard?
[14:50] <Leoneof> hi, where to get or download default icons for ubuntu?
[14:50] <luca__> is it enabled now?
[14:53] <luca__> do i need to write kernelparameters in grub commandline?
[14:54] <akis> aotaointbin:how can i customize the date string for timestamp?
[14:57] <Leoneof> echo?
[14:57] <lacrymology> what are the stable versions of python?
[14:57] <lacrymology> Leoneof: echo?
[14:58] <Leoneof> lacrymology: i need to find ubuntu's icons, and install it on debian.
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> !stable | lacrymology
[14:59] <luca__> how do i put kernel parameters in my iso?
[15:00] <ikonia> F6 I think
[15:00] <ikonia> you can pass boot arguments in
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> !bootoptions | luca__
[15:00] <lacrymology> lotuspsychje: that is not an answer. I just asked what the version numbers are on the official repos for py2 and py3
[15:01] <pavlos> lacrymology: I think 2.7 and 3.5
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> lacrymology: stable and versions are 2 different things..
[15:02] <akik> !info python zesty
[15:02] <akik> !info python3 zesty
[15:02] <lacrymology> lotuspsychje: ok. I understand "stable versions" as "the versions that are deemed stable to be supported on the official repositories"
[15:03] <Leoneof> anyone? >:(
[15:03] <luca__> i write !bootoptions in grub to get bootoptions? i wrote!nomodeset but it said "not found"
[15:03] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[15:03] <aotaointbin> akis: it's not even clear to me why firefox would be printing dates. i'm not sure i understand your situation.
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> Leoneof: this is ubuntu support, for debian questions ask #debian
[15:03] <Leoneof> "hi, where to get or download default icons for ubuntu?"
[15:03] <ikonia> Leoneof: they will be in one of the theme packages, you'll need extract them from that
[15:03] <L4M3B047> hi, strange problem with my Ubuntu laptop, connected to wifi, I can see it on devices connected list of my router but I can not ping router
[15:04] <lacrymology> pavlos: that's not full versions, but I'm seeing 2.7.11 in yakkety and xenial (LTS). I wasn't able to find it online, I just got a bunch of "how to install version X of pyhton on ubuntu"
[15:04] <lacrymology> thanks
[15:04] <L4M3B047> the wifi is connected but no internet
[15:04] <L4M3B047> I am on 17.04
[15:04] <Leoneof> ikonia: thanks.
[15:04] <L4M3B047> any clue?
[15:05] <xangua> !info ubuntu-mono | Leoneof
[15:06] <Leoneof> xangua: thanks \o/
[15:06] <pavlos> lacrymology: my 16.04 reports python --version as 2.7.12, python3 --version as 3.5.2
[15:06] <lamerchenca> ikonia |{}
[15:06] <akik> L4M3B047: there was a bug with the new dns resolver. can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[15:07] <lamerchenca> lamerchenca = bigests lame on the earth :)
[15:07] <lamerchenca> panimaesh
[15:08] <L4M3B047> akik I can't ping 8.8.8.8
[15:08] <akis> aotaointbin: firefox can print date and time every time on footer of the document. this date/time must be the current one. everything worked ok on my system till some days ago when i realized that the timestamp is not the current one but 01/01/1970. I tried customize it through print/page setup but there no option, except to stop timestamp to be printed.
[15:09] <doomlord> is there a good forum discussing ubuntu's gnome future
[15:09] <akik> L4M3B047: are you using dhcp? has it worked before?
[15:10] <L4M3B047> akik yes DHCP, working on another laptop on Debian and all other phones
[15:10] <L4M3B047> akik it was actually working till morning...
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> doomlord: #ubuntu-discuss
[15:11] <aotaointbin> akis: oh, when you say print, you mean, like, with a printer? sorry :P
[15:11] <amatiorchenca> ikonia poizduhai mi k-lina
[15:12] <amatiorchenca> stupid
[15:12] <aotaointbin> akis: so you're saying that the footer that's actually printed on paper is always 1970-01-01?
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> !english | amatiorchenca
[15:12] <akis> aotaointbin: print=print to a printer or print to a file (create a pdf file)
[15:12] <akik> L4M3B047: you can see your ip addresses with "ip addr list" and routes with "ip route list". check that the addresses match your network
[15:12] <akis> aotaointbin:yes!
[15:13] <amatiorchenca> i am from tajikistan
[15:13] <akis> aotaointbin: and was the current. but now is 1970-01-01
[15:14] <aotaointbin> that's really strange. i don't have firefox handy or i'd try to reproduce it.
[15:14] <pavlos> aotaointbin: does date reports today's date in your system?
[15:15] <aotaointbin> indeed, akis, try running `date` in a terminal. does it give you a current date/time?
[15:16] <L4M3B047> akik ip addr list gives IP which is local network IP, I can see the wifi mac in my router list, however the route list has 169.254.0.0, this is confusing
[15:17] <pavlos> L4M3B047: that may be the 3rd line in route, can you pastebin route -n
[15:17] <aleman> ikonia oper abuser lame and stupit person :)
[15:17] <akik> L4M3B047: 169.254. address is not a working address but used in the case when dhcp can not give you a working one
[15:18] <akis> aotaointbin: i cannot check it right now because i am not writing from the affected system, but i checked the date/time on system's panel and was the current.
[15:18] <akik> L4M3B047: you can control your network manager with nmcli e.g. "nmcli con show" and "nmcli con down 'Wired connection 1'"
[15:19] <aotaointbin> i really don't know then, sorry.
[15:19] <akik> L4M3B047: (also nmcli con up ...) try if those give you something more
[15:20] <L4M3B047> pavlos akik here is o/p of route -n I had to type it, the laptop is not on network, I am trying nmcli
[15:20] <L4M3B047> https://pastebin.com/tNett9H5
[15:20] <hiper> ikonia wronge corner my friend
[15:20] <hiper> all naght all day
[15:20] <hiper> night
[15:21] <Beato> Hi, is there a way to force Ubuntu to use a specific gpu?
[15:22] <ikonia> you can configure xorg to use whatever card you want
[15:22] <Beato> How though? Does Ubuntu use xorg.conf, because I can't find it.
[15:23] <nacc> Beato: there isn't one by default, but you can create one
[15:23] <pavlos> L4M3B047: akik the gateway metric should be 1 instead of 600
[15:25] <Richard_Cavell> May I ask - does a default install of ubuntu come with the following commands?  aclocal, autoheader, automake, autoconf
[15:26] <akik> pavlos: strange. on 17.04 my ethernet card route metric is 100
[15:26] <Fuchs> not all of them, no. Some are in the build-essentials metapackage
[15:26] <Richard_Cavell> Fuchs: Okay, so if I install build-essentials, I'll have them?
[15:26] <Fuchs> automake and autoconf for sure,
[15:26] <Fuchs> maybe check packages.ubuntu.com  for the other things you need
[15:26] <L4M3B047> akik pavlos on my Debian laptop its 1024 for first line then 1000 for 2nd line
[15:27] <rockyh> how to install additional UNICODE sets? I can't see (in my Ubuntu 14.04) much of the characters beyond 26c4 in this page: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/category/So/list.htm
[15:28] <Richard_Cavell> Fuchs: Can't find them
[15:29] <pavlos> L4M3B047: akik the gateway (UG) and your ip (U) should have the same metric, a lower number than the 169.254.0.0 I booted a 17.04 vm, metric is 100
[15:30] <ioria> Richard_Cavell, what you can't find ?
[15:32] <Silvering> Hi everyone! For a house domotic usage I would like to have  very basic ubuntu distribution running on a small pc. My dream is to create my own distribution based on ubuntu. My dream is just a dream of it is possible ?
[15:33] <ioria> !mini | Silvering
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> !info uck | Silvering
[15:34] <Richard_Cavell> ioria: I want to build a program from source.  It requires aclocal, autoheader, automake, autoconf
[15:35] <ioria> Richard_Cavell,  install autoconf and automake
[15:35] <Richard_Cavell> Will that give me the other two?
[15:35] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: what are you trying to build
[15:35] <Silvering> ok thanks a lot guys I have a good starting point ;-)
[15:35] <Richard_Cavell> asm6809
[15:36] <L4M3B047>  pavlos akik this seems to be some issue with dns, the resolv.conf is also strangely pointing to 127.0.0.1
[15:36] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: https://launchpad.net/~sixxie/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[15:36] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: the official project maintains this PPA
[15:36] <ikonia> already built and maintained for you
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> Silvering: lubuntu or xubuntu could be small/light also as usage
[15:37] <Richard_Cavell> ikonia: Oh, terrific, thanks
[15:37] <__Yiota> so I accidentally messed up my sudoers file
[15:37] <__Yiota> and pkexec is asking for passwd
[15:39] <L4M3B047> akik pavlos I checked my apt history and I can see that I installed some packages today, they look unity packages, unity-settings daemon, I will login to unity DE to check what is happening
[15:39] <pavlos> L4M3B047: my 17.04 has one line in /etc/resolv.conf   nameserver 127.0.0.53
[15:40] <Beato> "The PCI device 0x2000 at 06@00:00:00 has a kernel module claiming it."
[15:40] <Beato> How do I find out which module is doing that?
[15:41] <wanted`> htop
[15:42] <wanted`> system monitor
[15:42] <pavlos> Beato: do you have a second GPU?
[15:42] <__Yiota> any way to recover sudo in this case?
[15:44] <Beato> pavlos: Yeah, I have a onboard GPU that does the output (or should anyway), and I have a Tesla. Installing nVidia drivers seem to mess up the driver for the output GPU somehow, as it drops me back to the login screen when I try to log in.
[15:44] <L4M3B047> I am giving up now, I can set up a new system overnight, damn it Ubuntu, switching to Debian now
[15:44] <pavlos> Beato: found this if it helps ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/847645/secondary-graphic-card-not-work-after-install-nvidia-driver-login-loop
[15:45] <wanted`> nvidia but model
[15:45] <wanted`> :)
[15:45] <kristian_> hey
[15:46] <akis> aotaointbin: have a look at this please http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2954645
[15:47] <kristian_> ANYBODY SPEAK SPANISH ?
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> !es | kristian_
[15:47] <kristian_> OLE JAJAJ
[15:50] <RonWhoCares> I just upgraded to 17.04 ... how do I enable 3rd party software
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:53] <wanted`> RonWhoCares: may be install synaptic and use settings for repos
[15:53] <pavlos> __Yiota: https://askubuntu.com/questions/209558/how-can-i-fix-broken-sudo-sudo-parse-error-in-etc-sudoers-near-line-23
[15:53] <RonWhoCares> wanted`: How do I do this
[15:53] <wanted`> but ikone tel you a am lame
[15:53] <__Yiota> pavlos can I reboot into safe mode on ubuntu server (SSH) ?
[15:54] <wanted`> i am bann ikonie tel you
[15:54] <wanted`> ikonia
[15:54] <pavlos> __Yiota: if you have physical access to the server
[15:54] <__Yiota> it's aws
[15:55] <pavlos> __Yiota: you could change the boot option but since you cannot use sudo, idk
[15:58] <pavlos> __Yiota: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=160467
[15:58] <__Yiota> yeah, just read that
[15:58] <__Yiota> fuck
[15:58] <genii> !language | __Yiota
[15:59] <aotaointbin> akis: that sounds like what you're seeing, sure. no idea how to fix it, sorry.
[16:02] <akis> aotaointbin: i will check (as soon as i will be on the affected system) the date through the terminal (although in panel was the current one, and if the date/time is OK i decided to change the options on what firefox prints and i keep only URL, title and #page.
[16:04] <pavlos> akis: maybe dpkg-reconfigure tzdata will fix it
[16:04] <Beato> pavlos: yep, that worked. Thanks.
[16:06] <akis> aotaointbin: sounds a good idea. i am wondering why happened this? is it a system's issue or a firefox's one?
[16:08] <akis> aotaointbin: firstly i though that a system's update caused this issue, till i realized that on my other system (this one i am using right know) haven't any problem with timestamp.
[16:15] <rfleming> Greetings!
[16:15] <noob> hi
[16:16] <rfleming> Does anyone have any handy info on getting HDMI audio to work with nVidia drivers on GNOME?
[16:16] <rfleming> pavucontrol says HDMI is unplugged (but it's not)
[16:17] <smerz> rfleming, do you use propietary drivers? first thought would be to try those
[16:17] <rfleming> alsamixer shows three S/PDIF ports with volume of 00
[16:17] <rfleming> smerz, I'm using nvidia-current
[16:18] <smerz> then i dunno
[16:18] <rfleming> card shows HDA NVidia
[16:19] <|PiP|> Will Ubuntu 12.04 ESM packages be available for free?
[16:20] <dax> |PiP|: Ubuntu ESM is part of Ubuntu Advantage, which is a Canonical paid support program
[16:20] <dax> so a) not free, and b) #ubuntu community support doesn't really know much about it
[16:25] <imightbestupid12> I'm would like to
[16:29] <|PiP|> dax: but aren't the packages open-source?
[16:29] <dax> |PiP|: Yes. Open source does not mean free of charge.
[16:30] <dax> often it means source needs to be provided on request, which I assume Canonical does. that would be a question for them.
[16:30] <dax> (on request to people who get the binaries, so paying customers)
[16:30] <dax> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#DoesTheGPLAllowDownloadFee is relevant
[16:32] <|PiP|> dax: but would an open ESM mirror be legal?
[16:34] <dax> No idea, consult Canonical and a lawyer.
[16:34] <dax> Again, it's not a community thing at all, so we don't know a whole lot about it.
[16:38] <Random832> dax, for GPL software it also means that people who the source or binaries are provided to have a right to redistribute them. However, this probably wouldn't stop Canonical from choosing to revoke their access (possibly with a refund) and therefore preventing them from receiving and redistributing future updates.
[16:38] <Random832> but anyway, yeah this is something that anyone wanting to do it should ask a lawyer and find out what Canonical's policy actually is.
[16:38] <dax> Random832: I am aware of the copyright side of things, yes. My understanding is that Canonical assets (ridiculous) trademark rights over Ubuntu packages in general, so I am not willing to provide a solid answer based only on copyright considerations.
[16:39] <stefan2985798> Hello Ubuntuans
[16:44] <rypervenche> stefan2985798: Hi there.
[16:47] <fabiano> hi
[16:55] <immu> hi
[16:57] <Toxtlo> hi
[16:59] <L4M3B047> pavlos akik I found the problem, it was on my side, I had blocked a mac address and it was bound to an IP, now that device changed its settings and got another IP, freeing this particular IP which was blocked, and there was the problem, thanks guys, yey Ubuntu! I take my words back :D
[17:01] <faugusztin> hi guys, i guess if i get errors with ASM1062 PCI-E adapter (2xSATA) on Ryzen X370 system, but not on a Z170 Skylake system, then i am just screwed :P
[17:03] <Toxtlo> faugusztin what board do you have?
[17:03] <Toxtlo> thinking of buying a ryzen system too
[17:03] <faugusztin> ASUS PRIME X370 PRO
[17:03] <Toxtlo> wanted to get that too >.<
[17:04] <Toxtlo> (if it would be a ryzen system)
[17:04] <faugusztin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24461419/ <-- relevant part
[17:05] <faugusztin> otherwise works fine. but for some reason, storage cards are problematic for me, might have to play with them a bit
[17:05] <faugusztin> what i mean is that if i plug in my IBM M1015 flashed to 9211-8i IT, then the board loses ethernet for some reason. then i plugged in this one, and it does what you can see in that log file - same cable, same controller, same hard drive works just fine on the z170 board
[17:06] <faugusztin> maybe i will play around with some settings over the weekend
[17:08] <faugusztin> Toxtlo: a GT710 GPU worked just fine though, so not sure what is going on
[17:09] <pavlos> L4M3B047: glad it worked
[17:12] <faugusztin> Toxtlo: nah, going to play around now, will report back if i succeed in getting the card working :P
[17:12] <Toxtlo> faugusztin: so its only related to your storage device?
[17:13] <Toxtlo> not to the processor
[17:13] <faugusztin> Toxtlo: well, i have only GPU and storage cards :P
[17:13] <faugusztin> yes, the system itself works fine, with kernel 4.11-rc1 and newer i had 20+ days of uptime
[17:13] <faugusztin> (between resets due playing around with hardware)
[17:13] <faugusztin> i run various VM's on it 24/7
[17:13] <Toxtlo> what ryzen cpu do you use?
[17:14] <faugusztin> 1700
[17:14] <Toxtlo> did you try kernel 4.10 ?
[17:15] <faugusztin> i had crashing after few hours, sorry
[17:15] <Toxtlo> ok
[17:15] <faugusztin> i really needed 4.11-rc1 as minimum
[17:17] <rickety> im trying to use brasseo burn to create a iso disk, ( ive used this method in the past with the same type of disk, ) but now when i put the disk in my 16.04 says cant mount already mounted, and brasseo ejects the disk before burning. help?
[17:18] <ouroumov> hello rickety
[17:18] <rickety> hey
[17:18] <ouroumov> rickety, sorry it's been a while since I used a DVD for that kind of stuff
[17:18] <ouroumov> rickety, can't you use a USB drive?
[17:18] <pavlos> rickety: is the DVD R/O ?
[17:19] <th34lch3m1st> Hi, I have just installed 16.04 and I'm trying to get this dvb usb works. Can you confirm that linux-firmware-nonfree package is no longer available on 16.04?
[17:19] <frib> I can't get LibreOffice to apply my replacement correcitons while typing in Italian. I checked the the "while typing" autocorrect option. Installed the language. Set the document language to Italian. Not sure what else to do. Please help! ty
[17:19] <rickety> i have u net bootin that i have also used in the past as well, but i cant get any other computer to recognize the usb as a bootable device now, ouroumov
[17:20] <rickety> pavlos R/O?  RW yes
[17:20] <ouroumov> th34lch3m1st, it is still available.
[17:20] <pavlos> rickety: since it is R/W, brasero should allow you to blank the disk
[17:22] <rickety> pavlos blank the disk?
[17:22] <pavlos> rickety: erase the contents of the disk and burn an image to the disk
[17:22] <th34lch3m1st> ouromov synaptic say no
[17:23] <ouroumov> th34lch3m1st, apt-cache policy says yes
[17:23] <ducasse> !info linux-firmware-nonfree xenial
[17:24] <th34lch3m1st> ouromov so, to let synaptic dhow me the pacjage, I have to do what?
[17:24] <th34lch3m1st> *show me the package
[17:24] <ouroumov> th34lch3m1st, not sure, I don't use synaptic :x
[17:24] <rickety> pavlos is erasing the same as formatting? i have never been able to format or re write any R/W disk using ubuntu
[17:24] <ouroumov> th34lch3m1st, why don't you just sudo apt install the package?
[17:25] <ouroumov> ducasse, that's weird
[17:25] <ouroumov> ducasse, :ouroumov@Box:~/Desktop$ apt-cache policy linux-firmware-nonfree
[17:25] <ouroumov> linux-firmware-nonfree:
[17:25] <ouroumov>   Installed: 1.16
[17:26] <th34lch3m1st> ouroumov cause I have already did that and apt say to me there's no such package...16.04 fresh install...
[17:26] <ouroumov> Weird, maybe that was dropped in .2 point release? :/
[17:26] <ducasse> it's only available for precise and trusty afaict
[17:26] <ouroumov> But then why do I still have it ?_?
[17:27] <ducasse> ouroumov: did you upgrade from trusty?
[17:27] <ouroumov> No
[17:27] <ducasse> what does apt policy say under version table?
[17:27] <pavlos> rickety: erase is a better term since there is no formatting on the DVD RW. Any DVD software should be able to erase the DVD and re-write to it.
[17:27] <ouroumov> ducasse,  *** 1.16 100
[17:27] <ouroumov>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[17:28] <ducasse> so, locally installed, not from the repos.
[17:28] <ouroumov> Maybe a PPA pulled it?
[17:28] <th34lch3m1st> ouroumov maybe I have mispelled it... is it linux-firmware-nonfree ,right?
[17:29] <ouroumov> th34lch3m1st, yes, but apparently I have the frankeninstall, not you
[17:29] <ducasse> ouroumov: then you've removed it after installing that.
[17:29] <th34lch3m1st> ouroumov from synaptic I can see linux-firmware already installed...
[17:30] <maciek_> 123
[17:31] <rickety> pavlos http://paste.ubuntu.com/24461673/
[17:34] <pavlos> rickety: the last part reads, read-only. I'd say exit brasero, start it again, insert DVD and it will tell you if RO or RW
[17:37] <frib>  where can I get support for libre-open office
[17:37] <pavlos> rickety: what do you get with, dmesg | grep sr0
[17:40] <ducasse> !alis | frib
[17:41] <frib> ducasse, i found the channel thanks
[17:41] <frib> any clue why the default auto correct rules would work but not the custom ones I inserted?
[17:45] <rickety> pavlos http://paste.ubuntu.com/24461823/
[17:49] <z> hy
[17:49] <pavlos> rickety: seems your DVD gives errors, can you insert another DVD RW if you have one? My system reports, sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/52x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray without errors
[17:50] <z> hey help me
[17:50] <Guest2124> listen
[17:58] <FManTropyx> I got disconnected again
[17:58] <faugusztin> Toxtlo: positive news - with BIOS 0604 (latest) the IBM M1015 card finally works in Ubuntu on Ryzen X370 system
[18:00] <Toxtlo> faugusztin: thx. thats good news!
[18:00] <faugusztin> Toxtlo: the ASM1062 card still doesn't work with Ryzen/X370/Ubuntu, but when i have my IBM M1015, i don't give a damn :)
[18:00] <faugusztin> 2 vs 8 ports :D
[18:01] <faugusztin> it is possible they are still fine tuning some stuff even around PCI-E with BIOS updates
[18:06] <mati_> Hi I have question is there any auto change resolution for games script? or something similar to this?
[18:09] <minimec> mati_: Have a look here for a start... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting_xrandr_changes_persistently
[18:09] <minimec> mati_: With 'xrandr' you should be able to do these changes on the fly.
[18:10] <mati_> thanks for advaice I will try it
[18:14] <rickety> pavlos, i just tried another disk, and its the same error, could it be the cd drive itself?
[18:15] <pavlos> rickety: that might be, dust collected.
[18:16] <rickety> i do have another drive, im going to boot off try that and get back to ya
[18:17] <pavlos> rickety: there is also k3b, you may try ... brasero has not been updated for ages
[18:18] <rickety> oh yeah!
[18:23] <rickety> pavlos you would happen to have the sudo for that handy, i went looking but fire fox is having personal issues today.
[18:23] <lrojas> hi all, this might sound like a dumb question and i hate comparing platforms but here is my problem.
[18:23] <lrojas> I need to repartition my main disk on my laptop
[18:24] <lrojas> but in order to do that i need to make a bootable usb drive that has a copy of the internal drive
[18:25] <lrojas> on a mac i could use "Disk Utility" to make a "clone" of the disk in question, while preserving all the boot info, etc...
[18:25] <pavlos> rickety: you mean the link for k3b? you should be able to type, sudo apt install k3b
[18:25] <lrojas> mostly because that would "shrink" the source disk to fit into destination...
[18:26] <lrojas> what is the best way to accomplish this on ubuntu without shrinking the partition of the source disk?
[18:26] <Bashing-om> !backup | lrojas
[18:29] <erva> guys i want app to create passport photo on linux
[18:30] <lrojas> !sbackup
[18:30] <lrojas> !cloning
[18:31] <minimec> lrojas: You can also 'msg ubottu !cloning' ... ;)
[18:31] <lrojas> Bashing-om: I appreciate you taking the time to answer me, but after reading the documentation you sugested i think you missunderstod my question
[18:31] <lrojas> minimec: thanks
[18:32] <erva>  i want app to create passport photo on linux
[18:32] <minimec> lrojas: '/msg' obviously... ;)
[18:32] <lrojas> all i want is something similar to dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb where sdb is a 16gb usdb drive
[18:33] <NotYouTu> Anyone available to give some (hopefully quit) assistance?  I have a 10TB drive I'm trying to connect externally so I can do a full system backup before a rebuild... but Ubuntu is only seeing 1.2TB of it
[18:34] <leaderboss> hi
[18:34] <leaderboss> how do i use the guest additions ?
[18:34] <leaderboss> I installed using the sudo apt-get install virutalbox-guest-additions
[18:35] <leaderboss> but now how do I activate them, I don't get resize 1024x768 option, it's still disabled?
[18:35] <leaderboss> I also don't know after installing where the gugest additions image lies/
[18:35] <leaderboss> anyone knows about this ?
[18:38] <minimec> leaderboss: I normally use the virtualbox package of 'virtualbox.org', but once you have the additions package of the repo installed, you should be able to mount the guest additions as CD-Rom. It will then appear on your desktop of the virtual guest. Then double click it for intallation.
[18:38] <minimec> leaderboss: All these actions are done in the virtual guest...
[18:39] <leaderboss> minimec: How do I mount?
[18:39] <leaderboss> ok right click mount
[18:40] <tich> hi, I had a sketchy Bluetooth audio connection (would cut in and out or drop) but now it won't connect at all. I'd like to purge my Bluetooth config to start over but don't know how. any ideas?
[18:40] <leaderboss> /usr/share/virtualbox-guest-additons.iso
[18:40] <leaderboss> right?
[18:40] <leaderboss> may be
[18:43] <minimec> leaderboss: In the virtual guest... right <ctrl> key + <Home> key... then >'devices' >'insert guest additions CD image'
[18:43] <leaderboss> yup got it
[18:45] <leaderboss> minimec: This is taking a bit to long, it looks like it's stuck at 5%
[18:46] <tich> is this the channel I should be asking Ubuntu Bluetooth questions? or is there another channel I should go to?
[18:46] <minimec> leaderboss: It has to add some kernel modules to the guest I think. That might take some time.
[18:46] <leaderboss> minimec: I use 2.6GB in windows 10 64 bit as it is resource hungry windows 10
[18:49] <ses1984> hey -- somehow my google chrome window became always on top and i wasn't sure how to turn that off. so i set "use system title bars..." in order to uncheck always in top. how do i get back to custom title bars?
[19:00] <bradley> Hi. i switched from one device to another... i had asked how to purge my bluetooth config files so i can try adding devices fresh again... does anyone have any ideas?
[19:19] <leaderboss> hi
[19:19] <leaderboss> how can I install nasa world wind on linux?
[19:21] <JimmyNeutron> How do you tell ubuntu to format the EFI partition during installation?
[19:22] <JimmyNeutron> I'm seeing installs from previous linux distro inside /boot/efi partition.  I can do a rm -rf afterward but prefer to format it during the install process.
[19:25] <bradley> got it. i'm not sure why i assumed it was a ubuntu problem but i reset the Logitech BT adapter and it works fine now
[19:27] <bradley> (by fine i mean back to the original cutting in and out and dropping -- but at least it is connecting0
[19:33] <Bashing-om> faugusztin: Maybe good thing on the horizon for Ryzen : https://launchpad.net/bugs/1674399 .
[19:34] <anonona> hello, is unity desktop going to be discontinued?
[19:35] <Bashing-om> anonona: No, just will not be a default past 17.10 . Not going away ( at last any time soon ) .
[19:36] <anonona> ok. ubuntu phones will still be available?
[19:36] <Bashing-om> !touch | anonona
[19:37] <anonona> ok. that's great.
[19:38] <anonona> i think unity will be the only interface on ubuntu phone. is it?
[19:40] <faugusztin> anonona: Ubuntu Phone is dead
[19:40] <anonona> why?
[19:41] <faugusztin> because money ? haven't you read the blog post
[19:41] <anonona> ok. leave that. in future which is going to be the default ubuntu de?
[19:41] <faugusztin> gnome
[19:42] <faugusztin> gnome 3 to be exact
[19:42] <faugusztin> anonona: blog post clearly states all that :) "I’m writing to let you know that we will end our investment in Unity8, the phone and convergence shell. We will shift our default Ubuntu desktop back to GNOME for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS."
[19:42] <anonona> ok. are budgie and gnome 3 similar in some way?
[19:43] <faugusztin> anonona: https://ubuntubudgie.org/ ?
[19:44] <faugusztin> anonona: aparently it is an official version from 17.04
[19:44] <oerheks>  if they were simular .. what is the use?
[19:44] <anonona> ok.. thanks
[19:45] <faugusztin> also "and opening the door for development of the Qt 5-based Budgie 11"
[19:45] <faugusztin> Gnome is GTK based, Budgie is GTK based for now, but switching to Qt it seems ?
[19:56] <Hillis> Hey Ya'll
[19:56] <Hillis> I have a question about 17.04 I was hopiong for some quick help :-)
[19:57] <Hillis> Does anyone know if exFAT can be used instantly without apt-get commands?
[19:57] <YankDownUnder> Hillis: Should do.
[19:57] <Hillis> I've a 16GB USB-Memory and files >4GB
[19:58] <Hillis> YankDownUnder: Thank you!
[19:58] <YankDownUnder> Hillis: Give it a go...should be right.
[20:02] <enoch85> hey I need help intercepting a kernel panic message:
[20:02] <enoch85> ooh crap
[20:02] <enoch85> got it again, need to reboot
[20:06] <TheMontyChrist> how to suppres log messages?  my logs fill up to 50-60gb - flakey driver
[20:07] <TheMontyChrist> I'm so used to deleting them frequency. i forgot what type of message I'm getting.
[20:07] <TheMontyChrist> suppose, I"m getting spammed w/ INFO's.  can I just tell the logger to ignore infos from the driver?
[20:07] <enoch85> OK, back. Here it is: http://i.imgur.com/gZh5d6l.png
[20:07] <minimec> TheMontyChrist: That is not normal. It would probably be better to trace the error that spams your log file.
[20:07] <tomreyn> TheMontyChrist: you should both filter messages getting logged using rsyslog, and have logrotate running as a cron job
[20:07] <YankDownUnder> TheMontyChrist: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man5/syslog.conf.5.html => you can change the system log settings ...
[20:08] <enoch85> I have no clue that's causing this
[20:08] <enoch85> I've checked syslog and it seems it happens when it activates swap_1 on LVM
[20:08] <enoch85> but I'm not sure
[20:08] <TheMontyChrist> minimec: absolutely.  I let the vendor know of this, but in the meantime, I was wondering what I could do on my end - other than constant keep deleting log files.
[20:08] <Grorco1> Hello can any help me apply a kernal patch and rerun a video driver update from usb live to my hdd?
[20:08] <tomreyn> enoch85: hard to tell, since this is just to lower part of the kernel panic message
[20:08] <enoch85> tomreyn, yeah I know :(
[20:09] <tomreyn> enoch85: vmxnet points to vmware, though
[20:09] <enoch85> tomreyn, yeah, maybe change nic driver
[20:09] <enoch85> hmm
[20:09] <TheMontyChrist> so kenel and syslog dmessage are logged w/ syslog?
[20:09] <TheMontyChrist> how does the driver know which to log it
[20:09] <TheMontyChrist> to log to
[20:10] <enoch85> TheMontyChrist, I though all kernel panics where logged to syslog?
[20:10] <enoch85> thought*
[20:11] <enoch85> it takes 20 minutes to restore each time, so it's pretty time consuming
[20:11] <enoch85> TheMontyChrist, so which file should I check for kernel panics?
[20:11] <fartface> Hey!  I've recently got into Ansible, and I'm running a playbook which installs Apache2--problem is that when doing it this way, it only seems to listen on IPv6.  I can curl localhost in the terminal, but can't access via a browser.
[20:11] <minimec> enoch85: you can enable 'persistent' mode for journalctl. Like that the logs of systemd will survice a reboot. 1st: 'sudo mkdir -p /var/log/journal' 2nd: 'sudo nano /etc/systemd/journald.conf' and change '#Storage=auto' to 'Storage=persistent
[20:12] <tomreyn> TheMontyChrist: the driver does not log. it sends messages to the kernel ring buffer, which the syslog daemon (usually rsyslog on ubuntu, i think) then grabs and writes to a file based on certain filtering mechanisms you can modify.
[20:12] <fartface> I've checked ufw and iptables and port 80 is definitely open.
[20:12] <enoch85> minimec, will try
[20:12] <enoch85> minimec, thanks
[20:12] <minimec> enoch85: link... https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-journalctl-to-view-and-manipulate-systemd-logs
[20:14] <enoch85> will get back to you when I successfully preserved the log, maybe it explains everything. I hope so
[20:14] <minimec> TheMontyChrist: What kind of driver is that? Maybe you can set some options for the driver in '/etc/modprobe.d'.
[20:15] <effectnet> hello what is used to scan and fix a dirty usb drive?
[20:15] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Question - when did this start happening?
[20:16] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, like last week, i thought I will investigate now. I can upgrade the system (dist-upgrade even) but it happens when I run the database upgrade on Nextcloud
[20:16] <enoch85> very strange
[20:16] <enoch85> and no, there are no errors in the Nextcloud update, I've run it on like 10 other servers
[20:16] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: What changed from the time it worked last and the time when the error started to happen?
[20:17] <mkwia> Hi, how can I use php 7 on nginx on ubuntu?
[20:17] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, only thing I've done is run apt update and apt dist-upgrade nothing else
[20:17] <enoch85> the VM is pretty newly setup and I have like 20 other VMs with the same setup that doesn't panic
[20:17] <sshhelp> Hey guys, anyone got any tips on connecting to an apt-repo over an ssh tunnel? I've got apt-mirror running on server one + an FTP server, then a VPN that allows ssh to server two. I've tried making a tunnel ala this: -
[20:17] <enoch85> so, I'm puzzled
[20:17] <minimec> enoch85: If it started after an upgrade, I first start an older kernel with 'additional options...' in the grub screen. Worth a try.
[20:18] <Bizzeh> mkwia: literally the first google result for "php7 nginx" https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-nginx-mysql-php-lemp-stack-in-ubuntu-16-04
[20:18] <enoch85> minimec, yeah I can try that
[20:18] <sshhelp> ssh -R 21:localhost:21 user@server2
[20:18] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Right oh...and looking through system logs hasn't given you a clue?
[20:18] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, nope. :(
[20:18] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, that's why I'm asking here
[20:19] <enoch85> will try to get some more output with journald
[20:19] <mkwia> Bizzeh, cool, that doesn't work. php-fpm is not a package. Neither is php7-fpm, neither is php7.0-fpm.
[20:19] <Grorco1> can anyone help me apply a kernal patch from ubuntu live usb?
[20:19] <effectnet> i run fsck on my usb drive and all i see is                 fsck from util-linux 2.28.2
[20:21] <nacc> Grorco1: what do you mean? you need to build a new kernel?
[20:22] <wafflejock> effectnet, is that the only line?
[20:22] <effectnet> hi wafflejock yes only line no other text
[20:24] <pavlos> effectnet: you should be able to sudo fsck /dev/sdb1 assuming it is mot mounted
[20:24] <effectnet> k
[20:26] <Grorco1> nacc, Yes, I was upgrading my video drives on a new install last night and lost video, I looked further and there was a kernal patch amd said was needed
[20:26] <enoch85> crap no old kernel
[20:26] <enoch85> ok, changed to presistent, will make it panic again
[20:27] <effectnet> i should get more than one line back from fsck right?
[20:27] <nacc> Grorco1: do you know how to build linux kernels?
[20:27] <Bashing-om> effectnet: What is the file system on that USB drive ?
[20:28] <minimec> enoch85: At least you know that it is not a kernel issue... ;) because after akernel upgrade at least one older kernel should be present, even after having done 'apt autoremove'...
[20:28] <Grorco1> nacc no I just downloaded the .patch file not sure where to start after that
[20:28] <enoch85> minimec, true
[20:28] <enoch85> ok, it paniced
[20:28] <effectnet> what is fuseblk, it says that
[20:28] <enoch85> let's check the logs
[20:28] <effectnet> Bashing-om,
[20:29] <Didact69> what's the command to save iptables ?
[20:29] <effectnet> so it's ntfs i guess
[20:30] <effectnet> so this drive wont mess up as much as the other ones?
[20:30] <nacc> Grorco1: building your own kernel is non-trivial
[20:30] <effectnet> people pulling out drives making me nuts
[20:30] <enoch85> minimec, ok, so it's just jibberish
[20:30] <Bashing-om> effectnet: fuseblk I think relates to NTFS . and as such . fsck is not the tool to use on a windows' file system .
[20:30] <Grorco1> nacc, if it's way more complicated then "applying" the patch, can you help me get grub up so I can run the repair utility
[20:30] <enoch85> can't read it
[20:31] <effectnet> k thx
[20:31] <nacc> Grorco1: well you hvae to apply the patch and then build it, of course
[20:31] <nacc> Grorco1: if you don't know how to build a kernel, you're liable to do it wrong, imo
[20:31] <nacc> Grorco1: someone else can probably ehlp you repair grub
[20:31] <enoch85> nano says it's converting from dos or mac format minimec
[20:31] <enoch85> hwo do I read it?
[20:31] <enoch85> gedit?
[20:32] <minimec> enoch85: You have to use 'journalctl' to read the logs, because it is in some binary format
[20:32] <enoch85> minimec, it's just a bunch of @@@@@
[20:32] <enoch85> okok
[20:32] <enoch85> thanks
[20:33] <wafflejock> effectnet, yeah this post they mention a few other packages that may help with ntfs scanning/fixing but ymmv haven't used them myself https://askubuntu.com/questions/86086/fsck-cant-find-fsck-ntfs
[20:33] <effectnet> thx wafflejock
[20:33] <minimec> enoch85: try 'journalctl --boot=-1
[20:34] <enoch85> minimec, it's rebooting and everything
[20:34] <enoch85> but running the update makes it fail
[20:34] <enoch85> seems like it's deleted across reboots
[20:34] <enoch85> hmm
[20:34] <enoch85> will try to make it panic again
[20:35] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: It fails *when* you run an update? At which point - the point where you do: sudo apt-get update => or at: sudo apt-get upgrade ---> ?
[20:35] <minimec> enoch85: 'persistent' should save the logs. you should then be able to 'journalctl --list-boots' or 'journalctl --boot=-1" to show the last boot.
[20:38] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, minimec it fails here: https://kopy.io/4Ri4G
[20:39] <enoch85> if I tail -f the syslog I can see until line 24, the it panics
[20:39] <enoch85> during the update I mean
[20:39] <enoch85> so it's not apt that is failing, it's when running the php command
[20:39] <enoch85> could the issue be with php?
[20:39] <enoch85> hmm
[20:40] <enoch85> seems www-data is triggering it
[20:40] <jdrv_> somebody has tried to setup a google online account recently, i mean, in the last 24 hours?
[20:40] <jdrv_> i think there is a problem with google online account settings
[20:41] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: How's about momentarily disabling any web services...and then trying again...hmm?
[20:41] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, will do a restore again
[20:41] <enoch85> hold on for 20 mins :)
[20:41] <minimec> enoch85: could you try to set nextcloud into mainenance mode manually first? See... https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/11/admin_manual/maintenance/enable_maintenance.html
[20:43] <enoch85> as you can see in the output I set maintenance mode --on
[20:43] <enoch85> and what happens next is that is tries to update, and it's failing during the update of "calendar"
[20:43] <enoch85> (an app in nextcloud)
[20:44] <enoch85> so maybe disabling calendar or any other apps as well and then update
[20:44] <enoch85> will try
[20:44] <enoch85> have a lot of options here
[20:44] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: You're getting further along than you were an hour ago.
[20:45] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, that's pleasing :)
[20:45] <minimec> enoch85: disable "calendar" seems a good idea
[20:46] <enoch85> still I think it's very strange that Nextcloud or any of its apps should cause a kernel panic
[20:46] <minimec> enoch85: I agree. That should not happen...
[20:46] <enoch85> I'm an experienced ownCloud/Nextcloud user/contriutor and this just seems strange
[20:46] <enoch85> but I won't know until I tried :)
[20:47] <enoch85> it's more likley it's something in MySQL or the webserver itself imo
[20:47] <enoch85> but, running the same version on other servers works
[20:47] <enoch85> so, hmm
[20:48] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Aliens.
[20:48] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, zombies
[20:48] <enoch85> for sure :)
[20:48] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: TRUMP!
[20:48] <enoch85> HAHA
[20:48] <enoch85> :D
[20:49] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, best internet joke today :D
[20:49] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, you like "no joke" lol
[20:49] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Trump orders NSA to crash "Nextcloud" application and causes consternation for admin
[20:49] <enoch85> loool, long shot but heck who knows right :D
[20:50] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Maybe Trump thinks you're Mexican.
[20:50] <enoch85> arrriiba
[20:50] <enoch85> better build a better fireWALL
[20:55] <enoch85> ok, so my plan is to change network adapter to E1000 (VMware) disable contcts before the upgrade and then run the upgrade
[20:56] <enoch85> restore done in 10 minute
[20:56] <enoch85> s
[20:58] <mate_> hex
[21:05] <Pennth> Xenial->Zesty woe. ipython3-notebook got removed from my machines because of an incomplete package dependency in 17.04. I had to install jupyter-core by hand before I could reinstall ipython3-notebook :p
[21:17] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, minimec it IS when updating the apps
[21:17] <enoch85> just tried to update them from GUI and I got kernel panic again
[21:19] <enoch85> yup, disabling the apps prior to update solved it
[21:19] <enoch85> VERY strange
[21:19] <enoch85> deficiently trump
[21:20] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Yes...strange...more than strange...however, that being said, it begs one to inspect all the aspects of this particular machine...hmm...
[21:20] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, it sure does
[21:21] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Coffee, donuts, and time to read through all the system logs, web logs, etc etc etc...
[21:22] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, would be easier to just create a new VM and resotre the data actually
[21:22] <enoch85> something is pretty nasty here
[21:23] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: There ya go...easy enough done...
[21:23] <enoch85> just tried to activate the calendar app after a sucesfull update, kernel panic again
[21:24] <enoch85> well, will shit this server down in a few months, it will just have to run without those apps
[21:24] <enoch85> don't think any one uses them anyway :)
[21:24] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Just as a "thought" - since this is in a VM, have you check the HW clock settings of the VM?
[21:24] <enoch85> hmm
[21:24] <enoch85> can see
[21:24] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: See where I'm going with this "thought"?
[21:25] <enoch85> the time on the Hypervisor and VM isn't the same which causes stuff to go wrong..?
[21:26] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Not sure...but - for whatever reason - something to do with "time" has caused issues...ergo...
[21:26] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, yeah, worth to check at least
[21:26] <enoch85> hold on
[21:27] <enoch85> nope, they are the same
[21:27] <enoch85> synced over ntp from my firewall
[21:27] <enoch85> opnsense btw
[21:27] <enoch85> great stuff
[21:28] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Kernel boot params? UTC or HWC?
[21:30] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, ok, so the timezone in the DB tables are NULL in the calendar app
[21:30] <enoch85> hmm
[21:30] <enoch85> going to check the other tables
[21:32] <enoch85> they doesn't seem to have timezone in the same way
[21:32] <enoch85> YankDownUnder, kernel boot params, how do I check that?
[21:34] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Look at: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:34] <minimec> enoch85: in the grub screen with 'e' or in '/etc/default/grub' --> 'LINUX_DEFAULT', but if you did not change anything manually, you will not have anything special in there.
[21:35] <enoch85> minimec, nope default install of Ubuntu Server 16.04
[21:35] <enoch85> and no UTC or anything now when I checked
[21:37] <enoch85> well, problem is located and I'm satisfied with that at least
[21:37] <enoch85> a new version (major) will be released soon, will see if that helps
[21:37] <enoch85> thanks guys for your help
[21:37] <enoch85> appriciate it!
[21:38] <YankDownUnder> enoch85: Peace, bro
[21:59] <Squarism> what is the first place to look if a hacker entered your ubunutu machine?
[22:00] <kk4ewt> are your logs missing
[22:00] <kk4ewt> if you suspect it has been hacked reinstall period
[22:00] <liplit> "ext4magic" shows a list of all deleted files. for security, how can I wipe those names to avoid "ext4magic" or other software read them. thank you
[22:01] <genii> !info wipe | liplit
[22:02] <liplit> ubottu: is not one file, are thousands of deleted files that "ext4magic" still showing the name.
[22:17] <ArchDebian> "ext4magic" shows a list of all deleted files. For security, how can I Wipe those names to avoid "ext4magic" or other software list deleted filenames? thank you.
[22:23] <ArchDebian> What is the security way to clean the filesystem Journal?
[22:24] <Ben64> ArchDebian: don't use a journal
[22:28] <ArchDebian> Ben64: I agree, but if I'm using, how can I delete it now?
[22:30] <Ben64> turn off journaling, unmount, mount, fill free space with zeros?
[22:51] <bmomjian> Did anyone get an odd sweepstakes notification on Ubuntu today on the OS notification bar at the top of the screen?  I did.
[22:52] <underd0g> no
[22:53] <bmomjian> It mentioned AnandTech
[22:53] <rizonz> meh I still cannot fix my 64 bits preseed issues
[22:54] <oborot> I got a systemd process set to auto restart, I sent it's process a kill -11 and it seems to be in a permanent auto restart loop now? Looks like it tries to restart and gives up too fast. ANybody got any ideas?
[22:54] <oborot> RestartSec is 10
[22:55] <underd0g> oborot: give it more time to restart?
[22:57] <oborot> I tried setting it to 50 seconds
[22:57] <oborot> But it seems RestartSec is just the time it waits before trying to restart again
[22:58] <oborot> My problem seems to be it gives performing the actual restart task too fast
[23:05] <oborot> Found the problem
[23:07] <blackflow> oborot: what was it?
[23:09] <oborot> The process I was killing is binding to a unix socket
[23:09] <oborot> And I'm guessing I need to do some sort of cleanup when the process is killed prior to restarting
[23:10] <oborot> Because nginx was complaining that the socket was already in use
[23:11] <oborot> If I just delete the .sock file it restarts fine...
[23:22] <th34lch3m1st> hi
[23:26] <th34lch3m1st> 16.04 fresh install. amd mobo pci-e radeon. I want to set refresh rate to 75hz. now is 60hz. xrandr  works on session, not on reboot.
[23:28] <th34lch3m1st> two days ago I was using 12.04 with catalyst control center. refresh rate was working at 75hz with no issue.
[23:38] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[23:39] <Umeaboy> Whenever I upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10 or 16.10 to 17.04 I end up with a frozen window when it comes to installing unattended-upgrades.
[23:39] <Umeaboy> Anyone else experienced that?
[23:39] <Umeaboy> I'm NOT using Backports.