[00:00] <valorie> I guess we should be watching ubuntu-devel list for this stuff?
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[00:05] <wxl> yeah probably. i just wish we didn't have to be asking this
[00:06] <valorie> I dunno, wayland is progress
[00:06] <valorie> but maybe not quite yet
[00:06] <valorie> six months can be a long time in development time
[00:06] <wxl> yeah well i heard it was going to be "default" so that's kind of weird but i dunno
[00:06] <valorie> even if it races by "IRL"
[00:07] <ahoneybun> that would break a lot of people's machines
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[00:10] <valorie> right, "breaking people's machines" is NOT what we want
[00:12] <ahoneybun> well yea
[00:12] <ahoneybun> I imagine we can control if we use wayland by default or not
[00:12] <ahoneybun> like you said X is not going anyway anytime soon
[00:12] <ahoneybun> *anywhere
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[01:37] <ahoneybun> oh forgot the bot put my changes in here lol
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[02:13] <ahoneybun> valorie: see that dark box on the bottom right: http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/
[02:13] <ahoneybun> I'm trying to figure out how they do that
[02:13] <ahoneybun> ahhh readthedocs
[02:17] <valorie> that would be a nice feature, although I'm not sure how discoverable that is, down in the bottom corner
[02:18] <ahoneybun> well if we have both the master and 16.04 on the server we might be able to put it up in the top nav bar
[02:18] <ahoneybun> MAYBE
[02:22] <valorie> or http://kubuntu.org/docs ?
[02:22] <valorie> you could have links to the github source
[02:22] <valorie> and a download button
[02:22] <valorie> etc.
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[06:29] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:43] <santa_> good mroning everyone
[06:50] <santa_> * morning
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 morning :)
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[09:57] <sitter> yofel: take heed, I am removing unused KCI code from blue systems tooling repo, best be careful if you merge that at some point
[09:58] <yofel> sitter: ok thanks. currently we're running a fork anyway so I'm not sure when someone will get to even look into that
[09:58] <acheronUK> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379254
[09:59] <acheronUK> Hotfix coming hopefully
[10:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:46] <mamarley> acheronUK: Yeah, I noticed that too.  In my case, on systems that had been upgraded from KDE4 at some point, it was complaining about trying to start kwrited.  I just found the offending .desktop file and deleted it.
[11:50] <clivejo> no no no no
[11:53] <acheronUK> Yes
[11:54] <yofel> maybe?
[12:21] <mparillo> AA Builds are here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ No sed required.
[12:23] <mparillo> But no AA on the testing tracker yet: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[12:23] <mparillo> Whoops. Wrong.
[12:23] <mparillo> They helpfully reverse-sort, and it is at the bottom. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/376/builds
[12:53] <clivejo> mparillo: have you a KDE ID?
[13:03] <mparillo> conveniently enough, it is mparillo
[13:03] <clivejo> how strange!
[13:04] <clivejo> would you join the Kubuntu project? https://phabricator.kde.org/project/profile/214/
[13:06] <mparillo> I see where I can watch the project.
[13:06] <clivejo> would you have time to help me with this? https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/packaging/status/
[13:07] <clivejo> need a good way to display that info, but also easy to update
[13:12] <mparillo> I think it is a great display. First thing I would do is sort on the left column. OK by you?
[14:02] <clivejo> mparillo: is that possible?
[14:06] <mparillo> Oh, you mean automajic. Probably not, and now I can see you have it sorted, right? Basically newest updates are at the top, correct?
[14:06] <clivejo> I'm not sure how to do it
[14:06] <yofel> does phab have an API to update that page? Such pages tend to get out-of-sync really fast
[14:07] <clivejo> yofel: not that I know of, but my thoughts where to put a link to it in our IRC topic, and have just one place to update
[14:08] <yofel> if that works for you, go ahead
[14:08] <clivejo> but needs to be simple
[14:08] <clivejo> well its not really working
[14:08] <clivejo> looking for ideas!
[14:10] <mparillo> There appears to be https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/conduit/  but that is way beyond me.
[14:13] <acheronUK> Hmm.. https://plus.google.com/115793168478540780255/posts/SG8Hk21s7AB
[14:16] <clivejo> mparillo: the top table looks pretty, but is hard to keep up to date
[14:17] <clivejo> the bottom table would be easier to edit and update fast
[14:17] <mparillo> clivejo: Agreed; it is pretty. Staged means the binaries have been fully loaded into Launchpad? Landing means they are in the main repo for the current release?
[14:18] <clivejo> staged and landing PPA's
[14:20] <mparillo> So, to pick an example, in data row 2, Plasma 5.9.3 is available in staging-plasma 
[14:23] <clivejo> well it was
[14:23] <clivejo> but hasnt been updated recently
[14:23] <clivejo> it was staged and uploaded to Zesty
[14:24] <clivejo> but the editing of the table is too complicated
[14:24] <clivejo> which is why Im playing with the lower table
[14:29] <mparillo> And in the lower table, staging and landing refer to the current version only? AA? Otherwise including backports-landing makes the table too complicated?
[14:37] <clivejo> I might take those off, as they change very quick
[14:39] <clivejo> wish the editor was more WYSIWYG
[14:41] <mparillo> And in the upper table, the red clock and the blue arrows mean what?
[14:42] <clivejo> not started 
[14:42] <clivejo> blue arrow meant uploaded
[14:42] <mparillo> TY. So my first task is to add a legend.
[14:43] <clivejo> well Im considering get rid of the top table
[14:43] <clivejo> as it is very difficult to update
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[14:48] <mparillo> Give me a few minutes.
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[14:51] <clivejo> acheronUK: this it https://cgit.kde.org/scratch/davidedmundson/plasma-browser-integration.git/ ?
[14:52] <acheronUK> yep
[14:52] <clivejo> you tried to build it?
[14:56] <acheronUK> not yet. JR already did some initial packaging, so have mirrored that
[14:57] <acheronUK> going to try in a bit
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[15:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Rik Mills: add plasma-browser-integration
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[15:36] <mparillo> clivejo: I think I got the top table into shape.
[15:38] <mparillo> I am tempted to delete the rows we will never backport to.
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[17:59] <Peace-> hello guys i got a weird situation here on my laptop ... first of all 17.04 do not boot 0_0
[17:59] <Peace-> it says kernel panic 
[17:59] <Peace-> and i see acpi watchdog failed somethinig -16
[18:00] <Peace-> does not boot*
[18:00] <Peace-> i tried to reinstall but it just freeze 
[18:00] <Peace-> i can't even install it :/
[18:00] <Peace-> luckly i had 15.04 somewhere i got some silly system now 
[18:44] <clivejo> !info zssh
[18:48] <acheronUK> plasma-workspace for 5.9.5 is still pretty busted. going to need a 5.9.5.1 tarball or something
[18:51] <clivejo> whats up with it?
[18:52] <acheronUK> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379254
[18:52] <clivejo> oh that
[18:52] <acheronUK> and the *fix* is broken
[18:52] <acheronUK> FTBFS
[18:52] <clivejo> now theres a surprise!
[18:53] <clivejo> quite a serious regression
[18:53] <clivejo> for a bugfix release!
[18:53] <acheronUK> clivejo: that plasma-browser thingy built
[18:53] <clivejo> oooo
[18:53] <clivejo> did you play with it?
[18:53] <clivejo> is it cool?
[18:53] <clivejo> or kool
[18:54] <acheronUK> but KCI fails the build, as it puts files in evil places
[18:54] <clivejo> oh dear
[18:54] <clivejo> how evil?
[18:54] <acheronUK>  /etc/opt
[18:55] <acheronUK> It seems ok. but some things in the options that should work don't seem to for me
[19:27] -KubuntuManual:#kubuntu-devel- [kubuntu-manual] ahoneybun pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v9G5g
[19:27] -KubuntuManual:#kubuntu-devel- kubuntu-manual/master dff3aa0 Aaron Honeycutt: update README
[19:32] <clivejo> so whats the status of FW5.33?
[19:32] <clivejo> looks good here - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.33.0_artful.html
[20:46] <acheronUK> clivejo: khotnewstuff giving a 401?
[20:47] <clivejo> sorry?
[20:48] <acheronUK> http://i.imgur.com/q97UFv4.png
[20:49] <clivejo> eak
[20:52] <acheronUK> yes? no?
[20:52] <clivejo> Ben was looking into Discover hammering the server
[20:52] <clivejo> with like 23 requests to open the same file from each instance of discover :/
[20:53] <acheronUK> hmmmmm
[20:53] <clivejo> where do you get that setting?
[20:54] <acheronUK> systemsettings
[20:54] <clivejo> but where in there?
[20:54] <acheronUK> or run kcmshell5 kcm_desktoptheme
[20:55] <clivejo> org.kde.knewstuff.core: Redirected to  "https://autoconfig.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml"
[20:56] <clivejo> yup, thats the redirect Ben put in place I think
[20:57] <acheronUK> so he deliberately broke it?
[20:58] <clivejo> don't think so
[20:58] <clivejo> was trying to stop discover DOS'ing the server 
[20:58] <clivejo> why it needs to try to open the same file 23 times is beyond me
[21:02] <acheronUK> where does it say he redirected?
[21:02] <acheronUK> where did he...
[21:03] <clivejo> I'm not sure, he did something server side to reduce the load
[21:03] <acheronUK> when?
[21:08] <clivejo> couple days back
[21:08] <clivejo> https://paste.kde.org/pmckgol4d
 i've just made some server changes to halve the amount of load that behaviour generates
[21:12] <clivejo> acheronUK: is discover showing latest for you?
[21:13] <acheronUK> latest what?
[21:13] <clivejo> apps
[21:13] <clivejo> mine is broken again
[21:13] <acheronUK> what latest apps?
[21:14] <clivejo> like recommended
[21:14] <acheronUK> where is that?
[21:15] <clivejo> https://api.kde-look.org/
[21:15] <clivejo> that domain isnt working for me at all
[21:15] <clivejo> https://autoconfig.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml
[21:16] <acheronUK> not sure that it's a redirect that broke it.
[21:17] <acheronUK> just maybe that the servers it goes to eventually are borked for the time being?
[21:17] <clivejo> no idea
[21:17] <acheronUK> same thing happening in my chakra VM, so not our problem!
[21:45] <acheronUK> clivejo: anyway.... hoping can get new FW and plasma uploaded in next few days
[21:46] <acheronUK> depending on tests and plasma devs 'unfixing' plasma 
[21:47] <clivejo> LOL unfixing
[21:48] <acheronUK> well, looks like an include got missed in a manual merge, but hey!
[22:30] <ahoneybun> seems Manjaro is getting that 401 with knewstuff acheronuk
[22:32] <clivejo> its a KDE issue
[22:32] <clivejo> the server
[22:35] <ahoneybun> right I know
[22:35] <ahoneybun> just saying
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[23:17] <santa_> clivejo, acheronuk: given that I didn't have a very productive day today and due to that plasma bug, I will delay that pending chat we had about build depends bumping
[23:20] <acheronuk> no problem
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