[06:29] hi [06:29] hey sebsebseb [06:30] tested 17.10 yet sebsebseb ? [06:30] lotuspsychje: nope have you? [06:30] sebsebseb: ill wait until alpha2 so gnome will be there [06:30] sebsebseb: then help bugging out [06:31] yeah thats what I was thinking probably no gnome shell in there yet [06:31] sebsebseb: until alpha2 it will stay on unity7 [06:31] lotuspsychje: I am testing a unity gnome theme in 16.10 [06:32] sebsebseb: join #ubuntu-discuss and imgur your desktop theme? [06:34] lotuspsychje: one that can also do a nice windows theme, and a basic mac os x. some random script omgubuntu mentioned. uhmm testing random scripts from the Internet that doesnt seem particulary secure? uhmm yeah! but this one seems ok [06:34] lotuspsychje: no need just look on omgubuntu [06:34] sebsebseb: ah yeah, saw that script article [06:34] the dock/dash isnt that great [06:35] sebsebseb: found this on deviant also: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Fedora-677149963 [06:36] but at least it turned firefox with whatever default black theme, which looks horrible in ubuntu gnome, to grey thats better [06:36] sebsebseb: lets make gnome better by bugging it out to the max :p [06:36] thats my plan for sure [06:36] lotuspsychje: yeah not done theming stuff for ages, but thought would try script [06:36] i tested gnome-shell on my xenial laptop [06:37] lotuspsychje: I think switching to gnome is wrong move [06:37] unity is quite established now [06:37] same here..but what can we do sebsebseb ? [06:39] uhmm 16.04 untill 2021 h eh or try unity 8 from universe repos, but some programs might not look quite right [06:39] sebsebseb: so i hear unity7 will still be installable from the official repos [06:39] but if they wont work on it much..there's no point to continue right [06:39] lotuspsychje: for GNOME Shelll I would usually use another distro [06:40] sebsebseb: well we dont know yet how it will look vanilla on ubuntu, perhaps theyl add improvements [06:40] sebsebseb: http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-3-26-desktop-environment-to-offer-todoist-integration-quarter-tiling-515200.shtml [06:41] lotuspsychje: despite all the flak it got from various vocal online people over the years, Unity gave people a real reason to use Ubuntu, and thats both unity 7 and 8 [06:41] thats my opinion also [06:41] lotuspsychje: also if more fan boys reolised and then could accept, that in 16.10b [06:41] and 17.04 [06:42] the Unity 8 is JUST A PREVIEW [06:42] the ubports guys will work on unity8 still [06:43] need other programs in there snaps or whatever like the Ubuntu tablet and phone to make much more usuable [06:45] lotuspsychje: its asahame my ubuntu tablet is away for repair with a guy i know since some screen cracks, but its also ashame that it isnt going to be so simple to repair, since how BQ have attached certain hardware components together [06:46] lotuspsychje: might end up buying a second hand one later on as a result [06:46] dont know yet [06:47] lotuspsychje: theres two Unity 8 forks actually yes two [07:02] sebsebseb: lets c what the future brings us right :p [07:03] sebsebseb: join #ubuntu-discuss mate, we all hang there [07:07] lotuspsychje: I am waiting for another distro to finally release its 6th version after over a year, but hey its a 100% community distro, all volunters, no commercial sponser, and reasonabbly small community, so [07:07] lotuspsychje: but the GNOME will be recent so :) [07:08] but I guess may start using that more again once that [07:08] sounds cool [07:11] lotuspsychje: been using unity 7 on computer usuallly when using for about two years, well got a bit bored of gnome 3 gnome shell so. and the bq 4.5 ubunu phone was a short lived daily driver, snce the mx 4 became one as well. later a ubuntu m10 hd tablet as well [07:11] sebsebseb: i got unity on all my machines, touch on my bq 4.5 and nexus7 [07:13] lotuspsychje: yes certain people actually use ubuntu touch as a daily driver. and you saw what i had to say about desktop previwes above, but yes convergence seemed like a good idea to, so despite also having gnome shell as a favourite, you can see why i am beng quite hmm to it switching to that [07:13] same here [07:14] and they wanted to make money,, but unity 7 and 8 were also inovation [07:14] sebsebseb: i wonder how gnome 18.04 will look on a x86 tablet? [07:15] i remember when things were mostly about gnome 2 and kde 3/4 all a bit boring really, but then along came gnome 3 gnome shelll and unity [07:16] i liked gnome2 lightweight [07:16] yeah gnome 2 was good [07:16] so I like mate as well :) [07:16] now gnome3 feels bit laggy, sluggish [07:17] sebsebseb: tested mate on my xenial, not really fan of it either [07:17] never really liked xfce or lxde much, seemmed gnome 2 could do more, plus more used to it, simce both fedora and ubuntu used [07:18] xfce was around firstt though [07:18] lubuntu 16.04 is pretty nice [07:18] it dates back to like 1996 i think [07:18] one of the best lubuntu's ever [07:18] and cinnamon uh no [07:18] mate is good for light waight or classic style [07:20] lotuspsychje: unity tighed people to ubuntu, as of 17.10 well it will much less [07:20] sebsebseb: you know whats the problem, unity works right out of the box [07:20] sebsebseb: all others i tested...needs alot of tuning [07:21] unworkable by default [07:21] its easy to use and works well, thats unity 7, but also 8 on phone and tablet [07:22] the desktop reviews were a bit too much like a preview of 8, which may have been a problem there, since the fan boys, wont just put in there own stuff to that [07:23] lotuspsychje: as a interface I love unity 8 on phone and tablet though [07:23] yeah [07:23] previews not reviews [07:24] lotuspsychje: well at least the 17.04 vesion of 8 works in virtualbox, so if you want to then remember what ccould have been, there you go [07:25] 16.10 version of unty 8 does not unfirtunatly [07:26] lotuspsychje: actually i read a good article about the so called failure [07:26] lets try and find that for you [07:27] lotuspsychje: http://www.networkworld.com/article/3192311/linux/lessons-learned-from-the-failure-of-ubuntu-touch.html [07:28] yeah ive read that1, good article [07:30] lotuspsychje: indeed it is [08:00] well, halium project might help with that in a big way === JanC is now known as Guest35192 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === Night___ is now known as Night_ === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === JanC_ is now known as JanC