[04:47] <immu> hi all
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> breakfast bbl
[06:09] <immu> lotuspsychje, indeed
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[06:18] <ducasse> good morning :)
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/system76-pop-gtk-theme-ubuntu
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[06:20] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[06:22] <ducasse> \o EriC^^
[06:23] <EriC^^> hey ducasse
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-3-26-desktop-environment-to-offer-todoist-integration-quarter-tiling-515200.shtml
[06:29] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> morning lordievader sleep well?
[06:30] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[06:30] <lordievader> Quite okay
[06:30] <lordievader> What about you?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> great here, rainy,hagel day, and no work today...whole day irc yesss
[06:35] <lordievader> Have fun ;)
[06:40] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: what is 'hagel day'?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: ermm, dont know the exact english word..iceballs falling out of the sky?
[06:41] <ducasse> 'hail', i think
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> ah thats it
[06:43] <ducasse> i sort of suspected that was what you meant :)
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> :p
[06:47] <lordievader> Many languages are alike :P
[06:49] <ducasse> we call it 'hagl', so only one letter different
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: one day we had hail so big as tennisball, it ruined half of belgium
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> welcome sebsebseb
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: most active volunteers gathered here to serve #ubuntu as good as possible
[07:04] <sebsebseb> yeah I been here once or twice before, so oh yeah this channel again
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> this is where the magic happens
[07:19] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: maybe sometimes
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: read that article on lxer
[07:31] <sebsebseb> link?
[07:31] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje:
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: i mean that url you just posted
[07:32] <sebsebseb> oh
[07:32] <sebsebseb> but that wasnt lxer
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> yeah i know, lxer gathers articles from all around
[07:34] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: I been linking sharing various articles on Facebook and trying to from Twitter
[07:34] <sebsebseb> mostly from omgubuntu
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> i like softpedia linux also
[07:34] <sebsebseb> and trying to share on twitter to
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> and lexer
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> lxer
[07:34] <sebsebseb> but loooks like dont need to for a few months now
[07:35] <sebsebseb> i like softipedia
[07:37] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: by the way if you are from a usually cold/chilly country such as uk, and you suddenly get a hot sunny day, when doing a small generally public aimed trying to get into Linux etx event, dont expect much of a turn out from target audience, looks like october should be better then, next time#
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> belgium is 9months cold yes lol
[07:38] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: yep and here
[07:38] <sebsebseb> sucks
[07:40] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: such ashame after all that facebook interest to, more than last time
[07:40] <sebsebseb> and paid adds had been running for longer
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> i dont like FB too much
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> and social media
[07:41] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: but in the end no one came in from that, but last time october that worked and quite a few did
[07:41] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: i dont either, but it can work to get people to events
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> true
[07:42] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: so we had people already on lug list, and one guy who came up
[07:42] <sebsebseb> who already used linux or had
[07:43] <sebsebseb> and a guy someone imvited
[07:43] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: would have been intersting chatting about unity to the non users
[07:44] <sebsebseb> well its good, but the company behind it well....
[07:44] <sebsebseb> however this is open source so it can live on as....
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> sebsebseb: im surely will stick to ubuntu, whatever future brings us
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> we think opensource, and we will find a way to config things they way we need
[07:46] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: ill start using it less again i expect, but been using quite a bit again last two or so years
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> i like apt too much
[07:47] <sebsebseb> lotuspsychje: if I want to use GNOME 3 Shell I would usually rather in another distro as i put earlier
[07:47] <sebsebseb> apt works yes
[07:47] <sebsebseb> slow though
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> i cant get used to other distro's anymore
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> too addicted to ubuntu
[07:48] <sebsebseb> why not?
[07:48] <sebsebseb> oh
[07:48] <sebsebseb> why?
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu satisfy all my needs
[07:50] <sebsebseb> ok
[09:03] <immu2> hi ducass
[09:03] <immu2> ducasse, hi
[09:04] <ducasse> \o
[09:04] <immu2> why does IRC tell me that my nickname is already in use
[09:05] <brunch875> because it's already in use by immu
[09:05] <EriC^^> /nickserv ghost immu <pass>
[09:06] <immu2> yup thats me
[09:10] <immu> EriC^^, whats with this ghost thing ?
[09:14] <EriC^^> if you get disconnected and the nick stays on then you can force it to quit
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> morron day :p
[09:30] <ducasse> isn't it always? :)
[09:31] <EriC^^> they should make a bot that we can use to set bans (the regs)
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> that will never happen :p
[09:31] <EriC^^> like it has a voting system, if enough people vote to ban it'll ban
[09:31] <immu> EriC^^: what happ?
[09:31] <EriC^^> in case the ops are asleep or something, would be pretty handy
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> ops like banning too much :p
[09:31] <EriC^^> (they'll never go for it i guess though)
[09:32] <oerheks> i like banning ops too
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> haha
[09:32] <EriC^^> yeah that could happen then, democracy :D
[09:32] <oerheks> ~crazy ..
[09:33] <EriC^^> it's the way it is in some multiplayer games
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> the idea is nice EriC^^
[09:34] <EriC^^> if somebody's trolling or cheating etc you get a vote, enough players vote yes, he's gone
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> ban cheaters :p
[09:34] <EriC^^> :D
[09:35] <ducasse> some times there are as many trolls active as regulars, though
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> we got all kinds of goodies here: trolls, ban evaders,racists,botnet abusers, flooders,language spammers, pm comercials...
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> choose a pick :p
[09:36] <EriC^^> yeah, it would be restricted to the regulars like us, all the helpers
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> its hard to decide who's a helper and not
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> we know were are but... :p
[09:36] <EriC^^> and like it needs 3 votes of yes minimum, and it uses the majority of yes/no to decide (i'm still going on about it for no use right now :D )
[09:38] <ducasse> the last couple of days i've seen a couple of new users both helping and trolling/just talking crap
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> yeah thats the hardest part
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> when ops arent watching, trolls being good & helping lol
[09:38] <immu> i wanted to know, how many of you have installed gnome along with unity
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> immu: ive installed gnome-shell on xenial right now
[09:39] <oerheks> installing a 2nd desktop is a bad idea
[09:39] <immu> thats my concern
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> yeah things get scrambled alot
[09:39] <immu> you can't remove unity and its a core dependency
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> immu: virtualbox test one you like, or real clean install a flavor
[09:40] <oerheks> i like the horror-pastebins when you try :-D
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> haha
[09:40]  * lotuspsychje gonna laugh around the corner
[09:40] <EriC^^> is it true mark shuttleworth had a meltdown on some social media?
[09:40] <EriC^^> somebody in ##linux was talking about it yesterday
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> meltdown how EriC^^ ?
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> lemme check tweet
[09:42] <immu> EriC^^: what did you hear?
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> nothing like that on https://twitter.com/ubuntu
[09:42] <oerheks> DId he call someone an aardvark??
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> wahaha
[09:43] <oerheks>  just bought a dvd player with 5.1 on the fleemarket :-D
[09:44] <immu> oerheks: who buys a dvd player?
[09:44] <ducasse> oerheks obviously did.
[09:44] <oerheks> me, i wanted one a long time, but never wanted to pay more than €7,50
[09:45] <immu> oerheks: they are obselete
[09:45]  * lotuspsychje uses a mediaplayer
[09:46] <oerheks> immu yes, people trow away dvd's too, so i have 200 movies to watch
[09:47] <oerheks> .. maybe more
[09:47] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: immu something about him going after the hardcore linux guys, and how nobody supported unity, etc
[09:47] <immu> oerheks: njoy then, get loads of pop corn and soft drink and go gagga
[09:48] <immu> hmm, he had a post in google+, did you read that
[09:49] <EriC^^> https://betanews.com/2017/04/09/ubuntu-mark-shuttleworth-insults-mir-gun-control/
[09:49] <EriC^^> i didnt read anything really, somebody in the channel mentioned it
[09:53] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: watch any new movies lately?
[09:53] <EriC^^> !ping
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-after-unity/
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: fifty shades darker
[09:55] <EriC^^> aha i saw that one
[09:55] <EriC^^> did you watch Arrival?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: a monster calls
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> no, not yet
[09:55] <EriC^^> yeah also that, it's a good one
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> any good?
[09:55] <EriC^^> yeah it's pretty good
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> pete & the dragon
[09:57] <EriC^^> any good?
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> yeah its nicely made, not childish
[09:58] <EriC^^> lotusdb and ericdb
[09:58] <EriC^^> :D
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:58] <EriC^^> nice
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: im gonna eat lebanese bread this noon
[09:59] <EriC^^> nice
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> we sell it where i work
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> so after work il grab some bread home :p
[09:59] <EriC^^> :D
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ducasse wants to see the new alien movie
[10:00] <EriC^^> life ?
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> trailer lookin pretty nice :p
[10:00] <EriC^^> i saw it, it kind of sucks
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> is it in theaters already?
[10:00] <EriC^^> is it the one with the guy from deadpool? ryan reynolds?
[10:00] <ducasse> no, the new 'alien' movie, not 'life'
[10:01] <EriC^^> ah
[10:01] <EriC^^> haven't seen that
[10:01] <ducasse> out in may
[10:01]  * ducasse waits patiently
[10:01] <EriC^^> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2316204/
[10:01] <EriC^^> looks scary
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> watching those beasts always remind me playing doom3 lol
[10:03] <immu> EriC^^: arrival i Did
[10:03] <EriC^^> immu: good right?
[10:03] <immu> lotuspsychje: lebanese bread with humus?
[10:03] <immu> yeah EriC^^ but left bit thirsty
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> immu: no with rosted chicken mmm
[10:04] <immu> lotuspsychje: roast chicken with lemon juice ?
[10:04] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: get some tabbouli, some humus, and get some meat, make it into pieces put it on a rod with some onions over a barbeque
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> mmmm yummy
[10:06] <immu> EriC^^: epic, bbq at night time
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: there's a new hacker flick somewhere 2016
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> but cant find subs
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3173594/
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> 6.3 wanan try it
[10:10] <EriC^^> aha
[10:10] <EriC^^> did you see ghost in the shell?
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWiC75E2DO8
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> no EriC^^ good?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: that isnt out yet right?
[10:14] <EriC^^> they have it in http://123movies.is
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: looks good, bit like matrix
[10:17] <EriC^^> brb
[10:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:23] <ducasse> good morning BluesKaj, wb
[10:23] <immu> ooo BluesKaj is here, well do well do, what about you?
[10:24] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse, immu , fine here
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[10:26] <BluesKaj> except I can't figure why just transferring files makes the gpu heat up.
[10:26] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[10:27] <immu> lotuspsychje: so about mark shuttle worth going mad, its about the google+ post i mentioned about,  now he is quiet as they look forward to 17.10 development which has started since this friday
[10:28] <BluesKaj> immu,  yup I'm already testing Artful 17.10
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: does it work?
[10:29] <BluesKaj> well, I'm here chatting using it
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> cool
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> the gnome transfer will be on alpha2
[10:30] <BluesKaj> well. kde/plasma here
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> ill help bugging out then
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[10:32] <BluesKaj> plasma 5.9.4 with the new 4.10 kernel
[10:32] <ducasse> it's using the zesty kernel for now, isn't it?
[10:33] <BluesKaj> if the zesty is 4.10.0-20-generic
[10:34] <BluesKaj> then yes
[10:34] <ducasse> yep, it is
[10:35] <immu> BluesKaj: ducasse cool, so hows kubuntu as of now?
[10:36] <BluesKaj> it works, but it's under devel so one has to expect bugs
[10:36] <immu> oke
[10:36] <immu> on VM or side by side BluesKaj
[10:37] <BluesKaj> no vms here, this is devel ...vms don't reflect a real situation IMR
[10:38] <immu> so its side by side
[10:38] <immu> so is the /usr folder shared?
[10:38] <ducasse> that won't work
[10:39] <BluesKaj> nope
[10:39] <immu> so its on a separate partition?
[10:40] <BluesKaj> I have separate / and /home partitions on both OSs
[10:43] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu and Debian...no Windows here
[11:00] <immu> ok
[11:05] <immu> welcome back EriC^^
[11:05] <immu> how many of you are using this sound chipset Realtek ALC3661
[11:05] <EriC^^> thanks immu
[11:18] <BluesKaj> immu, that's snd-hda-intel driver
[11:21] <immu> yeah, do you have it on your system?
[11:33] <BluesKaj> immu, yes
[11:33] <BluesKaj> was busy for a few mins there
[11:47] <immu> BluesKaj: any sound issues regarding it
[11:51] <immu> you see, now. that my laptop is Alienware 14 with this ALC3661 chipset ok
[11:52] <immu> and using hdajackretask to set a pin, that restores sound to its proper levels
[12:38] <immu> hmm
[12:52] <immu> welcomeback BluesKaj what happened?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> my gpu is self destructing, suffering from thermal problems if I run any video or transfer files then it crashes my system
[12:59] <BluesKaj> I have a new gpu on order , should arrive sometime next week, in the meantime I'll watch video on the rpi
[13:04] <BluesKaj> this is an old pc and I'm not able to invest in fancier gpu than a nvidia GT210 due to the low PSU wattage, but the new gpu will keep this pc viable for a while longer til I decide to replace it....not a gamer anyway
[13:08] <immu> ok
[13:19] <immu> can't you control its thermal profile
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> your card has a fan BluesKaj ?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> no thermal control on this card, it's disabled by default , but it does have a fan strangely enough https://imagebin.ca/v/3KWFFP0WQI3Z
[13:47] <BluesKaj> it's behaving atm because no file transfer or video action
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you try vacuum clean the fan?
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: when did this start to happen?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> slowly , a few times while watching video a couple if weeks ago, now every 10mins or so while a video plays . the gpu heats up to 109C and crashes the system, and yes the gpy card is clean as is the whole pc ...gave it a good cleaning yesterday altho it wasn't very dusty at all
[14:03] <immu> BluesKaj: you are using a 8400GS nvidia chip how old is that?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> about 5yrs
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj_: could it be a kernel thing? other releases make your gpu hot also?
[14:46] <BluesKaj_> it's worse on debian lotuspsychje
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj_: card dead?
[14:48] <BluesKaj_> no it works , just overheats  under load
[14:48] <BluesKaj_> on my RPI3 now , so I'm taking a break from the pc for now
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> kk
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> hey there nacc
[15:27] <nacc> lotuspsychje: morning
[15:32] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning nacc
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> hey baizon
[17:22] <EriC^^> @ping
[17:22] <EriC^^> !ping
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> for our rasberry loves: http://www.binaryemotions.com/blog/raspberry-webkiosk-6-0-released/
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> lol EriC^^
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/stop_downloading_win10_creators_update/
[17:27] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje :D
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> oh no 2 erics
[17:45] <EriC^^> :P
[18:04] <EriC^^> we need some kind of fun bot here
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> heh
[18:04] <EriC^^> for the #ubuntu-discuss channel
[18:05] <EriC^^> !beer
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:05] <EriC^^> i used to do a lot of mirc scripting back in the day
[18:06] <immu> BluesKaj_, EriC^^ ducasse howdy amigos
[18:06] <EriC^^> i really need to learn python i think that's used for xchat and bot scripting and stuff
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: mirc invision was nice
[18:06] <EriC^^> python is pretty must know i guess, i've been kind of putting off learning it, it would come handy for sure
[18:07] <EriC^^> invision is a script?
[18:07] <EriC^^> hey immu
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: yeah invision was a sort of addon for mirc
[18:08] <EriC^^> ah
[18:09] <EriC^^> i used to use extreme irc, it was pretty good
[18:09] <EriC^^> there was some fellow named EriC^^ that had an irc client, lots of times people would confuse me for him xD
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> heh
[18:12] <EriC^^> hey Bashing-om
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> waky waky
[18:13] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Hey Hey .. I survived to fight another day :) How goes your world ?
[18:14] <ducasse> \o Bashing-om - all well?
[18:15] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: good thanks
[18:16] <EriC^^> how's it going with you? did the weather clear up yet?
[18:16] <Bashing-om> ducasse: All little bitty things . Still on the list: 1) lawn mowers, 2) 14.04 hard drive, 3) running the replacement water line between the well head and the house . Small things ! in comparison .
[18:16] <Bashing-om> Location: Heber Springs, AR ~ Cond: 64°F (18°C), Haze ~ Atmo: 52%, 6.0 mi (9.7 km), 29.81 in (1009 mb) ~ Wind: 4 mph (6 km/h), SW, N/A°F (N/A°C) ~ Time: 12:55
[18:17] <EriC^^> not bad
[18:18] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Great weather .. Been out messing about to get one of the mowers started . will go back to it when my aggravation level is at an acceptable level .
[18:19] <BluesKaj_> Bashing-om,  I recall there used to be a mirc weatherinfobot . is there a linux client equivalent ?
[18:20] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj_: well that ^ is a irssi script . for a linux thingy for weather ' inxi -xxxw ' :)
[18:20] <ducasse> three weather scripts for weechat...
[18:22] <BluesKaj_> Bashing-om, yeah, looking
[18:22] <ducasse> what happened with the mower, Bashing-om ?
[18:22] <ducasse> since aggro level is up, i mean :)
[18:23] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj_: the 'inxi -xxxw ' is very verbose . the lessen the noise output decreace the x's .
[18:26] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Well mowers : #1 has trash in the carbuerator, #2 has not been started since last summer and requires a belly belt . #3 sheeres off the stering sheer pin for some unknown reason . ALL fixable given time effort and money !
[18:30] <ducasse> Bashing-om: ouch. well, good luck with that. this is a good example of murphy's law, i suppose...
[18:33] <BluesKaj_> I actually consideed buying a push mower a few yrs ago after my old clinton powered mower gave up , basically fell aprt , the push mower clip the grass not tear the grass like powered does
[18:33]  * nacc has a push mower too
[18:34]  * lotuspsychje gives his lawnmower to his father in law lol
[18:36] <BluesKaj_> I'm more worried bout the chainsaw , it hasn't been started for a couple of yrs, got some major branches to cut down this yr.
[18:36] <Bashing-om> ducasse: It's the will to survive ! Before the lawn follage takes over ! ( before the situation gets real out of hand - son-in-Law will bring over his mower ) /./ and yes is on the want list for a human powered grass getter = Household Financial administrator says maybe next week .
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> welcome ubot9
[18:36] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: that's a great idea, lotus - "your daughter makes me dinner, so get out there and mow my lawn!" ;)
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> thats really whats happening, how can you guess :p
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> the bigger the meat, the harder the garden work
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> and me...chilling on irc
[18:39] <ducasse> Bashing-om: get a couple of goats and let nature do the work :)
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:40] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: " chilling on irc " ; aint live grand !
[18:40] <ducasse> displaylink - is that screens connected via usb-c?
[18:40] <nacc> ducasse: yeah
[18:40] <nacc> well i don't think exclusively, but that's the most common
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: surely is, and the friends are better on irc also!
[18:40] <nacc> it's a chipset in the dongle
[18:40] <nacc> and you need a driver for it in linux and windows
[18:41] <nacc> or it doesn't see anything but the usb ports
[18:41] <ducasse> ah, ok.
[18:41] <nacc> i *believe* there is some upstream work in this area
[18:41] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Now now wifey .. who is going to change the water and the habitant .. what me milk goats ! Give me a break !
[18:41] <nacc> for DL daisy-chain, etc.
[18:41] <nacc> in theory, it allows you to seamlessly connect 10 displays or so
[18:41] <nacc> but the problem i ran into with the dl driver (from displaylink consortium) is that it ships a binary that helps stich things together
[18:41] <nacc> and it would peg the cpu all the time
[18:41] <ducasse> pretty impressive bandwidth
[18:42] <nacc> yeah
[18:42] <nacc> they were at least responsive, i got them to fix their driver
[18:42] <nacc> i also pointed canonical's kernel team to their github, to see if they wanted to pull it in
[18:42] <nacc> not sure if they did or not
[18:44] <ducasse> i dislike hw that depends on binaries, can easily leave me in a situation where i can't use it. often has, in fact.
[18:46] <immu> did i miss something boys
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> immu: you can scroll with your mouse
[18:47] <immu> already did that? how do i print my weather here?
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om has a script for that
[18:48] <immu> oke
[18:49] <nacc> ducasse: yeah and it's an embedded binary in a tarball
[18:49] <nacc> ducasse: it's really gross
[18:51] <ducasse> nacc: ugh. i was a heavy bsd user for a long time, where companies just laugh at you when you ask for driver support ;-/
[18:51] <nacc> ducasse: yeah :)
[18:51] <nacc> ducasse: i will say the maintainer was really responsive
[18:52] <nacc> and it helped i could test it really quickly as a developer
[18:53] <immu> boys i tried suse and it had trouble finding my Hp wifi inkjet printer
[18:53] <immu> openSuse
[18:53] <immu> now on solus
[18:54] <immu> any comments?
[18:54] <nacc> ...
[18:54] <nacc> don't use opensuse?
[18:55] <ducasse> some companies are better than others. i guess multi-display generally attracts a pretty techy crowd.
[18:55] <nacc> ducasse: yeah, and displaylink is a technology in a lot of those new usb-c docs
[18:55] <immu> nacc, why so? please shed some light on it?
[18:55] <nacc> *docks
[18:55] <nacc> immu: you know you're in the ubuntu discussion channel?
[18:55] <nacc> immu: i don't care about opensuse
[18:55] <nacc> immu: but you did ask for comments
[18:55] <nacc> immu: and my comment was don't use it
[18:55] <nacc> use ubuntu, it works for me
[18:57] <BluesKaj> immu is searching for distro nirvana :-)
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:57] <nacc> ah
[18:57] <nacc> perfection is the enemy of the good
[18:58] <ducasse> immu: you need to hook up with CrazyTux, you'd like him.
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> lolz
[18:58] <BluesKaj> ducasse, that's not nice :-)
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> ducasse means crazytux also likes to tryout different distro's
[18:59] <ducasse> i apologize if that was insensitive, they just seem to be very interested in testing desktops, various distros etc. :)
[19:00] <BluesKaj> ducasse, i was only kidding ...crazytux suits his nick
[19:02] <ducasse> :) i just think he was inexperienced, a bit overwhelmed by all the options and kept looking for the 'perfect' thing.
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GrSecurity-No-Longer-Free
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> hmm thats why we had a grsecurity question this morning
[19:03] <BluesKaj> they pactically banned him in the ##linux chat
[19:04] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: jeez, the closed even the testing tree?
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> seems like it
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> nite nite guys
[19:07] <BluesKaj> some say phoronix news is not to be trusted
[19:27] <immu> nacc, i am now sailing in Solus Distro, but Ubuntu, is my primary distro of choice with Unity.
[19:29] <immu> And no matter which distro you are on, or flavour, we all should be united by commong goal of Bug no#1
[19:29] <nacc> meh
[19:31] <immu> ducasse, may you introduce me to nacc , and anyways i am running gnome now, which all four distro's will be on Gnome :)
[19:32] <immu> BluesKaj, hey buddy how are you doing
[19:35] <BluesKaj> immu, well thanks, almost time for my nap...later all
[19:45] <immu> EriC^^, hi
[20:01] <immu> nacc, didnt see you earlier?
[20:03] <immu> ducasse, who is CrazyTux?
[20:06] <ducasse> just a guy who kept switching desktops and distros all the time for no good reason.
[20:07] <immu> ducasse, so i am the second one like him?
[20:08] <ducasse> more like the thousandth :) i think we've all been there at some point.
[20:09] <immu> the thing is no matter which distro i have hopped upon, i end up comming back to ubuntu ducasse , and also this channel is semi-formal so little bit of leeway should be allowed
[20:24] <ducasse> it isn't a very formal channel, no, but support questions for other distros will probably not be very welcome.
[20:25] <ducasse> well, this isn't a good place to ask support questions at all, actually :)
[20:31] <immu> ducasse, i don't think i asked a support related question? but just a general opinion? is that also not allowed?
[20:33] <immu> ducasse, by the way ? do i look like i am ranting? here :)
[20:33] <ducasse> looking at it, it might not have been meant as a support question, but it could easily be perceived as one.
[20:34] <ducasse> i think it was just a misunderstanding.
[20:34]  * Bashing-om likes having a channel to *whine* in :P
[20:34] <ducasse> very important, whining :)
[20:38] <immu> see like i am solus, now, but still got Ubuntu, hanging out, i can try all other OSes on VM's :)
[20:42] <nacc> honestly, immu asked what anyone's opinion of opensuse is, i simply said don't run it
[20:42] <nacc> i've never had any use case that needs it
[20:45] <immu> i removed openSuse its boring nacc
[20:46] <nacc> immu: :)
[20:47] <ducasse> i haven't looked at it in over a decade, so can't comment :)
[20:54] <immu> ducasse, i looked at it and may never look at it
[20:54] <immu> i have always being a Ubuntu(Unity) guy but after death of unity, i have become a drifter
[20:54] <immu> goodnite gentleman
[20:54] <immu> see you toom
[20:55] <ducasse> nitenite, same here soon