[04:47] hi all [05:29] good morning to all [05:29] breakfast bbl [06:09] lotuspsychje, indeed [06:16] hey ducasse [06:18] good morning :) [06:19] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/system76-pop-gtk-theme-ubuntu [06:20] hey EriC^^ [06:20] hey lotuspsychje [06:22] \o EriC^^ [06:23] hey ducasse [06:25] http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-3-26-desktop-environment-to-offer-todoist-integration-quarter-tiling-515200.shtml [06:29] Good morning [06:29] morning lordievader sleep well? [06:30] Hey lotuspsychje [06:30] Quite okay [06:30] What about you? [06:31] great here, rainy,hagel day, and no work today...whole day irc yesss [06:35] Have fun ;) [06:40] lotuspsychje: what is 'hagel day'? [06:40] ducasse: ermm, dont know the exact english word..iceballs falling out of the sky? [06:41] 'hail', i think [06:42] ah thats it [06:43] i sort of suspected that was what you meant :) [06:43] :p [06:47] Many languages are alike :P [06:49] we call it 'hagl', so only one letter different [06:55] ducasse: one day we had hail so big as tennisball, it ruined half of belgium [07:04] welcome sebsebseb [07:04] sebsebseb: most active volunteers gathered here to serve #ubuntu as good as possible [07:04] yeah I been here once or twice before, so oh yeah this channel again [07:04] lol [07:06] this is where the magic happens [07:19] lotuspsychje: maybe sometimes [07:31] sebsebseb: read that article on lxer [07:31] link? [07:31] lotuspsychje: [07:32] sebsebseb: i mean that url you just posted [07:32] oh [07:32] but that wasnt lxer [07:32] yeah i know, lxer gathers articles from all around [07:34] lotuspsychje: I been linking sharing various articles on Facebook and trying to from Twitter [07:34] mostly from omgubuntu [07:34] i like softpedia linux also [07:34] and trying to share on twitter to [07:34] and lexer [07:34] lxer [07:34] but loooks like dont need to for a few months now [07:35] i like softipedia [07:37] lotuspsychje: by the way if you are from a usually cold/chilly country such as uk, and you suddenly get a hot sunny day, when doing a small generally public aimed trying to get into Linux etx event, dont expect much of a turn out from target audience, looks like october should be better then, next time# [07:38] belgium is 9months cold yes lol [07:38] lotuspsychje: yep and here [07:38] sucks [07:40] lotuspsychje: such ashame after all that facebook interest to, more than last time [07:40] and paid adds had been running for longer [07:40] i dont like FB too much [07:40] and social media [07:41] lotuspsychje: but in the end no one came in from that, but last time october that worked and quite a few did [07:41] lotuspsychje: i dont either, but it can work to get people to events [07:42] true [07:42] lotuspsychje: so we had people already on lug list, and one guy who came up [07:42] who already used linux or had [07:43] and a guy someone imvited [07:43] lotuspsychje: would have been intersting chatting about unity to the non users [07:44] well its good, but the company behind it well.... [07:44] however this is open source so it can live on as.... [07:45] sebsebseb: im surely will stick to ubuntu, whatever future brings us [07:45] we think opensource, and we will find a way to config things they way we need [07:46] lotuspsychje: ill start using it less again i expect, but been using quite a bit again last two or so years [07:46] i like apt too much [07:47] lotuspsychje: if I want to use GNOME 3 Shell I would usually rather in another distro as i put earlier [07:47] apt works yes [07:47] slow though [07:48] i cant get used to other distro's anymore [07:48] too addicted to ubuntu [07:48] why not? [07:48] oh [07:48] why? [07:49] ubuntu satisfy all my needs [07:50] ok === JanC is now known as Guest35192 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [09:03] hi ducass [09:03] ducasse, hi [09:04] \o [09:04] why does IRC tell me that my nickname is already in use [09:05] because it's already in use by immu [09:05] /nickserv ghost immu [09:06] yup thats me === immu is now known as Guest47649 === immu2 is now known as immu [09:10] EriC^^, whats with this ghost thing ? [09:14] if you get disconnected and the nick stays on then you can force it to quit [09:29] morron day :p [09:30] isn't it always? :) [09:31] they should make a bot that we can use to set bans (the regs) [09:31] that will never happen :p [09:31] like it has a voting system, if enough people vote to ban it'll ban [09:31] EriC^^: what happ? [09:31] in case the ops are asleep or something, would be pretty handy [09:31] ops like banning too much :p [09:31] (they'll never go for it i guess though) [09:32] i like banning ops too [09:32] haha [09:32] yeah that could happen then, democracy :D [09:32] ~crazy .. [09:33] it's the way it is in some multiplayer games [09:33] the idea is nice EriC^^ [09:34] if somebody's trolling or cheating etc you get a vote, enough players vote yes, he's gone [09:34] ban cheaters :p [09:34] :D [09:35] some times there are as many trolls active as regulars, though [09:35] we got all kinds of goodies here: trolls, ban evaders,racists,botnet abusers, flooders,language spammers, pm comercials... [09:35] choose a pick :p [09:36] yeah, it would be restricted to the regulars like us, all the helpers [09:36] its hard to decide who's a helper and not [09:36] we know were are but... :p [09:36] and like it needs 3 votes of yes minimum, and it uses the majority of yes/no to decide (i'm still going on about it for no use right now :D ) [09:38] the last couple of days i've seen a couple of new users both helping and trolling/just talking crap [09:38] yeah thats the hardest part [09:38] when ops arent watching, trolls being good & helping lol [09:38] i wanted to know, how many of you have installed gnome along with unity [09:39] immu: ive installed gnome-shell on xenial right now [09:39] installing a 2nd desktop is a bad idea [09:39] thats my concern [09:39] yeah things get scrambled alot [09:39] you can't remove unity and its a core dependency [09:40] immu: virtualbox test one you like, or real clean install a flavor [09:40] i like the horror-pastebins when you try :-D [09:40] haha [09:40] * lotuspsychje gonna laugh around the corner [09:40] is it true mark shuttleworth had a meltdown on some social media? [09:40] somebody in ##linux was talking about it yesterday [09:41] meltdown how EriC^^ ? [09:41] lemme check tweet [09:42] EriC^^: what did you hear? [09:42] nothing like that on https://twitter.com/ubuntu [09:42] DId he call someone an aardvark?? [09:42] wahaha [09:43] just bought a dvd player with 5.1 on the fleemarket :-D [09:44] oerheks: who buys a dvd player? [09:44] oerheks obviously did. [09:44] me, i wanted one a long time, but never wanted to pay more than €7,50 [09:45] oerheks: they are obselete [09:45] * lotuspsychje uses a mediaplayer [09:46] immu yes, people trow away dvd's too, so i have 200 movies to watch [09:47] .. maybe more [09:47] lotuspsychje: immu something about him going after the hardcore linux guys, and how nobody supported unity, etc [09:47] oerheks: njoy then, get loads of pop corn and soft drink and go gagga [09:48] hmm, he had a post in google+, did you read that [09:49] https://betanews.com/2017/04/09/ubuntu-mark-shuttleworth-insults-mir-gun-control/ [09:49] i didnt read anything really, somebody in the channel mentioned it [09:53] lotuspsychje: watch any new movies lately? [09:53] !ping [09:53] pong! [09:53] https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-after-unity/ [09:55] EriC^^: fifty shades darker [09:55] aha i saw that one [09:55] did you watch Arrival? [09:55] EriC^^: a monster calls [09:55] no, not yet [09:55] yeah also that, it's a good one [09:55] any good? [09:55] yeah it's pretty good [09:57] pete & the dragon [09:57] any good? [09:57] yeah its nicely made, not childish [09:58] lotusdb and ericdb [09:58] :D [09:58] lol [09:58] nice [09:58] EriC^^: im gonna eat lebanese bread this noon [09:59] nice [09:59] we sell it where i work [09:59] so after work il grab some bread home :p [09:59] :D [09:59] EriC^^: ducasse wants to see the new alien movie [10:00] life ? [10:00] trailer lookin pretty nice :p [10:00] i saw it, it kind of sucks [10:00] is it in theaters already? [10:00] is it the one with the guy from deadpool? ryan reynolds? [10:00] no, the new 'alien' movie, not 'life' [10:01] ah [10:01] haven't seen that [10:01] out in may [10:01] * ducasse waits patiently [10:01] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2316204/ [10:01] looks scary [10:01] watching those beasts always remind me playing doom3 lol [10:03] EriC^^: arrival i Did [10:03] immu: good right? [10:03] lotuspsychje: lebanese bread with humus? [10:03] yeah EriC^^ but left bit thirsty [10:04] immu: no with rosted chicken mmm [10:04] lotuspsychje: roast chicken with lemon juice ? [10:04] lotuspsychje: get some tabbouli, some humus, and get some meat, make it into pieces put it on a rod with some onions over a barbeque [10:04] mmmm yummy [10:06] EriC^^: epic, bbq at night time [10:07] EriC^^: there's a new hacker flick somewhere 2016 [10:07] but cant find subs [10:08] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3173594/ [10:08] 6.3 wanan try it [10:10] aha [10:10] did you see ghost in the shell? [10:12] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWiC75E2DO8 [10:13] no EriC^^ good? [10:13] EriC^^: that isnt out yet right? [10:14] they have it in http://123movies.is [10:16] EriC^^: looks good, bit like matrix [10:17] brb [10:20] Howdy folks [10:23] good morning BluesKaj, wb [10:23] ooo BluesKaj is here, well do well do, what about you? [10:24] Hi ducasse, immu , fine here [10:25] hey BluesKaj [10:26] except I can't figure why just transferring files makes the gpu heat up. [10:26] hi lotuspsychje [10:27] lotuspsychje: so about mark shuttle worth going mad, its about the google+ post i mentioned about, now he is quiet as they look forward to 17.10 development which has started since this friday [10:28] immu, yup I'm already testing Artful 17.10 [10:29] BluesKaj: does it work? [10:29] well, I'm here chatting using it [10:29] cool [10:30] the gnome transfer will be on alpha2 [10:30] well. kde/plasma here [10:30] ill help bugging out then [10:31] bbl [10:32] plasma 5.9.4 with the new 4.10 kernel [10:32] it's using the zesty kernel for now, isn't it? [10:33] if the zesty is 4.10.0-20-generic [10:34] then yes [10:34] yep, it is [10:35] BluesKaj: ducasse cool, so hows kubuntu as of now? [10:36] it works, but it's under devel so one has to expect bugs [10:36] oke [10:36] on VM or side by side BluesKaj [10:37] no vms here, this is devel ...vms don't reflect a real situation IMR [10:38] so its side by side [10:38] so is the /usr folder shared? [10:38] that won't work [10:39] nope [10:39] so its on a separate partition? [10:40] I have separate / and /home partitions on both OSs [10:43] Kubuntu and Debian...no Windows here [11:00] ok [11:05] welcome back EriC^^ [11:05] how many of you are using this sound chipset Realtek ALC3661 [11:05] thanks immu [11:18] immu, that's snd-hda-intel driver [11:21] yeah, do you have it on your system? [11:33] immu, yes [11:33] was busy for a few mins there [11:47] BluesKaj: any sound issues regarding it [11:51] you see, now. that my laptop is Alienware 14 with this ALC3661 chipset ok [11:52] and using hdajackretask to set a pin, that restores sound to its proper levels [12:38] hmm [12:52] welcomeback BluesKaj what happened? [12:57] my gpu is self destructing, suffering from thermal problems if I run any video or transfer files then it crashes my system [12:59] I have a new gpu on order , should arrive sometime next week, in the meantime I'll watch video on the rpi [13:04] this is an old pc and I'm not able to invest in fancier gpu than a nvidia GT210 due to the low PSU wattage, but the new gpu will keep this pc viable for a while longer til I decide to replace it....not a gamer anyway [13:08] ok [13:19] can't you control its thermal profile [13:36] your card has a fan BluesKaj ? [13:46] no thermal control on this card, it's disabled by default , but it does have a fan strangely enough https://imagebin.ca/v/3KWFFP0WQI3Z [13:47] it's behaving atm because no file transfer or video action [13:54] BluesKaj: did you try vacuum clean the fan? [13:55] BluesKaj: when did this start to happen? [13:58] slowly , a few times while watching video a couple if weeks ago, now every 10mins or so while a video plays . the gpu heats up to 109C and crashes the system, and yes the gpy card is clean as is the whole pc ...gave it a good cleaning yesterday altho it wasn't very dusty at all [14:03] BluesKaj: you are using a 8400GS nvidia chip how old is that? [14:09] about 5yrs [14:45] BluesKaj_: could it be a kernel thing? other releases make your gpu hot also? [14:46] it's worse on debian lotuspsychje [14:46] hmm [14:47] BluesKaj_: card dead? [14:48] no it works , just overheats under load [14:48] on my RPI3 now , so I'm taking a break from the pc for now [14:55] kk [15:26] hey there nacc [15:27] lotuspsychje: morning [15:32] 'Morning nacc [16:59] hey baizon [17:22] @ping [17:22] !ping [17:22] pong! [17:23] for our rasberry loves: http://www.binaryemotions.com/blog/raspberry-webkiosk-6-0-released/ [17:23] lol EriC^^ [17:26] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/stop_downloading_win10_creators_update/ [17:27] hey lotuspsychje :D [17:45] oh no 2 erics === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [17:45] :P [18:04] we need some kind of fun bot here [18:04] heh [18:04] for the #ubuntu-discuss channel [18:05] !beer [18:05] lol [18:05] i used to do a lot of mirc scripting back in the day [18:06] BluesKaj_, EriC^^ ducasse howdy amigos [18:06] i really need to learn python i think that's used for xchat and bot scripting and stuff [18:06] EriC^^: mirc invision was nice [18:06] python is pretty must know i guess, i've been kind of putting off learning it, it would come handy for sure [18:07] invision is a script? [18:07] hey immu [18:08] EriC^^: yeah invision was a sort of addon for mirc [18:08] ah [18:09] i used to use extreme irc, it was pretty good [18:09] there was some fellow named EriC^^ that had an irc client, lots of times people would confuse me for him xD [18:09] heh [18:12] hey Bashing-om [18:12] hey Bashing-om [18:12] waky waky [18:13] EriC^^: Hey Hey .. I survived to fight another day :) How goes your world ? [18:14] \o Bashing-om - all well? [18:15] Bashing-om: good thanks [18:16] how's it going with you? did the weather clear up yet? [18:16] ducasse: All little bitty things . Still on the list: 1) lawn mowers, 2) 14.04 hard drive, 3) running the replacement water line between the well head and the house . Small things ! in comparison . [18:16] Location: Heber Springs, AR ~ Cond: 64°F (18°C), Haze ~ Atmo: 52%, 6.0 mi (9.7 km), 29.81 in (1009 mb) ~ Wind: 4 mph (6 km/h), SW, N/A°F (N/A°C) ~ Time: 12:55 [18:17] not bad [18:18] EriC^^: Great weather .. Been out messing about to get one of the mowers started . will go back to it when my aggravation level is at an acceptable level . [18:19] Bashing-om, I recall there used to be a mirc weatherinfobot . is there a linux client equivalent ? [18:20] BluesKaj_: well that ^ is a irssi script . for a linux thingy for weather ' inxi -xxxw ' :) [18:20] three weather scripts for weechat... [18:22] Bashing-om, yeah, looking [18:22] what happened with the mower, Bashing-om ? [18:22] since aggro level is up, i mean :) [18:23] BluesKaj_: the 'inxi -xxxw ' is very verbose . the lessen the noise output decreace the x's . [18:26] ducasse: Well mowers : #1 has trash in the carbuerator, #2 has not been started since last summer and requires a belly belt . #3 sheeres off the stering sheer pin for some unknown reason . ALL fixable given time effort and money ! [18:30] Bashing-om: ouch. well, good luck with that. this is a good example of murphy's law, i suppose... [18:33] I actually consideed buying a push mower a few yrs ago after my old clinton powered mower gave up , basically fell aprt , the push mower clip the grass not tear the grass like powered does [18:33] * nacc has a push mower too [18:34] * lotuspsychje gives his lawnmower to his father in law lol [18:36] I'm more worried bout the chainsaw , it hasn't been started for a couple of yrs, got some major branches to cut down this yr. [18:36] ducasse: It's the will to survive ! Before the lawn follage takes over ! ( before the situation gets real out of hand - son-in-Law will bring over his mower ) /./ and yes is on the want list for a human powered grass getter = Household Financial administrator says maybe next week . [18:36] welcome ubot9 [18:36] lotuspsychje: that's a great idea, lotus - "your daughter makes me dinner, so get out there and mow my lawn!" ;) [18:37] thats really whats happening, how can you guess :p [18:39] the bigger the meat, the harder the garden work [18:39] and me...chilling on irc [18:39] Bashing-om: get a couple of goats and let nature do the work :) [18:39] lol [18:40] lotuspsychje: " chilling on irc " ; aint live grand ! [18:40] displaylink - is that screens connected via usb-c? [18:40] ducasse: yeah [18:40] well i don't think exclusively, but that's the most common [18:40] Bashing-om: surely is, and the friends are better on irc also! [18:40] it's a chipset in the dongle [18:40] and you need a driver for it in linux and windows [18:41] or it doesn't see anything but the usb ports [18:41] ah, ok. [18:41] i *believe* there is some upstream work in this area [18:41] ducasse: Now now wifey .. who is going to change the water and the habitant .. what me milk goats ! Give me a break ! [18:41] for DL daisy-chain, etc. [18:41] in theory, it allows you to seamlessly connect 10 displays or so [18:41] but the problem i ran into with the dl driver (from displaylink consortium) is that it ships a binary that helps stich things together [18:41] and it would peg the cpu all the time [18:41] pretty impressive bandwidth [18:42] yeah [18:42] they were at least responsive, i got them to fix their driver [18:42] i also pointed canonical's kernel team to their github, to see if they wanted to pull it in [18:42] not sure if they did or not [18:44] i dislike hw that depends on binaries, can easily leave me in a situation where i can't use it. often has, in fact. [18:46] did i miss something boys [18:46] immu: you can scroll with your mouse [18:47] already did that? how do i print my weather here? [18:48] Bashing-om has a script for that [18:48] oke [18:49] ducasse: yeah and it's an embedded binary in a tarball [18:49] ducasse: it's really gross [18:51] nacc: ugh. i was a heavy bsd user for a long time, where companies just laugh at you when you ask for driver support ;-/ [18:51] ducasse: yeah :) [18:51] ducasse: i will say the maintainer was really responsive [18:52] and it helped i could test it really quickly as a developer [18:53] boys i tried suse and it had trouble finding my Hp wifi inkjet printer [18:53] openSuse [18:53] now on solus [18:54] any comments? [18:54] ... [18:54] don't use opensuse? [18:55] some companies are better than others. i guess multi-display generally attracts a pretty techy crowd. [18:55] ducasse: yeah, and displaylink is a technology in a lot of those new usb-c docs [18:55] nacc, why so? please shed some light on it? [18:55] *docks [18:55] immu: you know you're in the ubuntu discussion channel? [18:55] immu: i don't care about opensuse [18:55] immu: but you did ask for comments [18:55] immu: and my comment was don't use it [18:55] use ubuntu, it works for me [18:57] immu is searching for distro nirvana :-) [18:57] lol [18:57] ah [18:57] perfection is the enemy of the good [18:58] immu: you need to hook up with CrazyTux, you'd like him. [18:58] lolz [18:58] ducasse, that's not nice :-) [18:59] ducasse means crazytux also likes to tryout different distro's [18:59] i apologize if that was insensitive, they just seem to be very interested in testing desktops, various distros etc. :) [19:00] ducasse, i was only kidding ...crazytux suits his nick [19:02] :) i just think he was inexperienced, a bit overwhelmed by all the options and kept looking for the 'perfect' thing. [19:03] http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GrSecurity-No-Longer-Free [19:03] hmm thats why we had a grsecurity question this morning [19:03] they pactically banned him in the ##linux chat [19:04] lotuspsychje: jeez, the closed even the testing tree? [19:04] seems like it [19:05] nite nite guys [19:07] some say phoronix news is not to be trusted [19:27] nacc, i am now sailing in Solus Distro, but Ubuntu, is my primary distro of choice with Unity. [19:29] And no matter which distro you are on, or flavour, we all should be united by commong goal of Bug no#1 [19:29] meh [19:31] ducasse, may you introduce me to nacc , and anyways i am running gnome now, which all four distro's will be on Gnome :) [19:32] BluesKaj, hey buddy how are you doing [19:35] immu, well thanks, almost time for my nap...later all [19:45] EriC^^, hi [20:01] nacc, didnt see you earlier? [20:03] ducasse, who is CrazyTux? [20:06] just a guy who kept switching desktops and distros all the time for no good reason. [20:07] ducasse, so i am the second one like him? [20:08] more like the thousandth :) i think we've all been there at some point. [20:09] the thing is no matter which distro i have hopped upon, i end up comming back to ubuntu ducasse , and also this channel is semi-formal so little bit of leeway should be allowed [20:24] it isn't a very formal channel, no, but support questions for other distros will probably not be very welcome. [20:25] well, this isn't a good place to ask support questions at all, actually :) [20:31] ducasse, i don't think i asked a support related question? but just a general opinion? is that also not allowed? [20:33] ducasse, by the way ? do i look like i am ranting? here :) [20:33] looking at it, it might not have been meant as a support question, but it could easily be perceived as one. [20:34] i think it was just a misunderstanding. [20:34] * Bashing-om likes having a channel to *whine* in :P [20:34] very important, whining :) [20:38] see like i am solus, now, but still got Ubuntu, hanging out, i can try all other OSes on VM's :) [20:42] honestly, immu asked what anyone's opinion of opensuse is, i simply said don't run it [20:42] i've never had any use case that needs it [20:45] i removed openSuse its boring nacc [20:46] immu: :) [20:47] i haven't looked at it in over a decade, so can't comment :) [20:54] ducasse, i looked at it and may never look at it [20:54] i have always being a Ubuntu(Unity) guy but after death of unity, i have become a drifter [20:54] goodnite gentleman [20:54] see you toom [20:55] nitenite, same here soon === JanC_ is now known as JanC