| immu | hi | 09:33 |
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| immu | i wanted to ask is it ok to install gnome along with unity? from a upgrade point of view | 09:44 |
| rfleming | Greetings! | 13:39 |
| immu | greetings | 13:44 |
| rfleming | How goes it? | 13:57 |
| rfleming | ... and how do I get GNOME to turn off my displays at lock? :) | 13:57 |
| dsynapse | greetings | 14:24 |
| dsynapse | rfleming: I dont' have gnome up right now (at work) but I want to say that's in the screensaver settings? | 14:59 |
| dsynapse | or power saving settings | 14:59 |
| rfleming | Greetings! | 17:04 |
| rfleming | Is the nautilus that ships with Ubuntu-GNOME 17.04 different from the one in Debian Stretch? | 17:05 |
| rfleming | What I mean is in terms of hard-coded configuration, not version | 17:05 |
| rfleming | most specifically with regards to context menus | 17:06 |
| jbicha | yes, Ubuntu's Nautilus is different but could you be more specific? | 17:09 |
| rfleming | Yeah. Under Ubuntu, pressing the 3-dot context menu brings up... you know what? Let me make some screen captures | 17:10 |
| jbicha | Ubuntu does not customize that menu | 17:11 |
| rfleming | http://imgur.com/a/wEP35 | 17:14 |
| rfleming | On Debian, the view mode just toggles the view from list to icon. | 17:15 |
| jbicha | that's because stretch has a newer version of nautilus than 17.04 | 17:15 |
| rfleming | Aaaah | 17:16 |
| rfleming | I completely forgot to look at that | 17:16 |
| jbicha | 17.10 will get the newer version | 17:16 |
| rfleming | how 'usable' are the daily builds? :) | 17:17 |
| jbicha | how good are you at fixing your Ubuntu when it breaks? have you run Ubuntu betas before? | 17:18 |
| rfleming | yeah | 17:18 |
| rfleming | just not with GNOME... | 17:18 |
| rfleming | I'm an XFCE convert | 17:18 |
| rfleming | I got used to the Windows 10 workflow at work, and XFCE was found wanting | 17:18 |
| jbicha | of course, this will be a more disruptive development cycle than normal but if you don't mind fixing your computer and reinstalling if things break, then you're welcome to try it out | 17:19 |
| rfleming | I'll think about it. Maybe run in a VM | 17:19 |
| jbicha | I recommend you make sure that you do not have proposed updates enabled | 17:20 |
| jbicha | if you want to run the development version of Ubuntu | 17:20 |
| rfleming | good thinking 99 | 17:20 |
| jbicha | personally, I am still on 17.04 and have 17.10 in a VM so that I can verify 17.04 Stable Release Updates easier | 17:20 |
| jbicha | but several people do run the development versions continuously as a sort of rolling release | 17:21 |
| rfleming | I'm still teeter-tottering between Debian and Ubuntu :) | 17:21 |
| rfleming | at least I have GNOME worked out | 17:21 |
| jbicha | a lot of the GNOME packaging is shared between Debian and Ubuntu | 17:22 |
| rfleming | So how is the change from Ubuntu-GNOME to just Ubuntu going to work? | 17:22 |
| rfleming | I know you guys pride yourselves on a 'pure' experience. What's the main group going to do for customisations? | 17:22 |
| jbicha | basically Ubuntu will get gnome-shell and drop Unity in the next month or two | 17:23 |
| jbicha | decisions about specific apps, customizations, theming haven't really been made yet | 17:23 |
| rfleming | hopefully consideration will be made this time about what people want in their DE and not force something unchangeable down the throats | 17:24 |
| * rfleming isn't interested in having specialized versions of software that deviate from developer design plans | 17:25 | |
| jbicha | I don't think anything is being forced anywhere | 17:25 |
| jbicha | people don't all want the same thing | 17:25 |
| rfleming | I understand completely :) | 17:25 |
| jbicha | I mean Unity is not being actively developed now so it's a problem for those who really liked Unity but there are more choices now than there were in the GNOME 2 days | 17:27 |
| rfleming | I liked Budgie, it was modern, but simple. Will be interesting to see where they go moving to QT libs | 17:28 |
| rfleming | it is modern | 17:28 |
| rfleming | used was because I stopped using it. :) | 17:28 |
| rfleming | I'm just settling into GNOME and working out little niggles here and there. | 17:29 |
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| rfleming | is anyone having issues with GNOME and NVidia drivers where the displays aren't going to sleep on lock? With the nouveau driver they turn off... | 21:39 |
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