[00:00] <shakes808> what would you suggest for a free cad type program?  Want to do some wood working projects and want to draw up plans
[00:03] <cmaloney> Depends on what you want to do with those plans
[00:04] <shakes808> build my plans :)
[00:04] <shakes808> what do you mean?
[00:05] <cmaloney> I mean are you looking just to do some back-of-the-envelope modeling, actual CAD, feed this into a machine?
[00:06] <shakes808> ummm. back-of-the-envelope?
[00:07] <cmaloney> https://brlcad.org/
[00:07] <cmaloney> https://www.freecadweb.org/
[00:09] <shakes808> thank you
[00:09] <shakes808> I will check them out
[00:09] <shakes808> which is one that is for a "non" cad person?
[00:10] <cmaloney> Blender
[00:10] <cmaloney> Fuck if I know. :)
[00:10] <shakes808> haha
[00:11] <cmaloney> https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/tree/v2.3
[00:11] <hpucks> huh.  lubuntu still comes with pidgin?
[00:11] <hpucks> what year is it?
[00:12] <cmaloney> There's still people who use Pidgin
[00:18] <hpucks> Yeah, I kinda forgot about it
[00:25] <jrwren> my wife still uses pidgin.
[00:25] <jrwren> pidgin works adn works well.
[00:26] <jrwren> and she prefers firefox and thunderbird... but... prefers it... on windows ;_;
[00:32] <cmaloney> blergh
[00:33] <cmaloney> Well they can't all be winners
[00:45] <rick_h> shakes808: for woodworking that Google project is the best thing going. /Me forgets the name.
[00:46] <shakes808> rick_h: sketchup?
[00:46] <rick_h> shakes808: that's the one
[00:46] <shakes808> so how do you make it work on ubuntu?  they have  a windows and mac installer but no generic linux.
[00:47] <rick_h> shakes808: vm basically
[00:47] <rick_h> shakes808: nothing I'd bear to use in Ubuntu unfortunately
[00:48] <shakes808> gotcha
[00:51] <rick_h> :(
[00:55] <cmaloney> I thought Sketchup was abandoned?
[02:19] <shakes808> looks like it is still  active
[02:21] <shakes808> i guess i will have to install it on my windows partition.  :| trying to get away from windows :(