[10:40] <xubuntu94w> Hi, as with the update to 17.04 Numix got improved, the black background of whisker menu, xfce4-systemload-plugin bar or Okular pdf reader is white now.  Is this a bug ?
[10:49] <Spass> xubuntu94w: Hi, about Whisker Menu, they just changed the theme. In my opinion the previous black Whisker Menu was a bug :)
[11:51] <x64386> 8-)
[12:05] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[12:06] <x64386> Hello, someone (except Google) can help with getting the hostname on dhcp on livecd?
[12:06] <x64386> this
[12:06] <x64386> https://askubuntu.com/questions/210530/casper-set-hostname-via-dhcp
[12:07] <x64386> does not work
[12:58] <needalilhelp> anyone around who can help me track down the caouse for bringing xubuntu 14.04 down to a crawl*?
[13:05] <needalilhelp> can somebody help me to find out why xubuntu 14.04 slows down to a crawl after running a while, only restart fixes it
[13:10] <Spass> needalilhelp: does xfce4-taskmanager (or 'top' in terminal) shows any unusual memory usage of some program?
[13:11] <needalilhelp> if i knew how to read it correctly, i could tell you
[13:11] <needalilhelp> in task manager, what is RSS and what is VSZ?
[13:14] <needalilhelp> ah yes btw. i recall that dmesg does something like this
[13:14] <needalilhelp> [ 1408.591528] perf samples too long (2501 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000 [ 1536.113965] EXT4-fs (sdc1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) [ 1621.535105] INFO: NMI handler (perf_event_nmi_handler) took too long to run: 1.253 msecs [ 1636.735460] perf samples too long (12799 > 5000), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 25000 [ 1636.735470] INFO: NMI handler (perf_even
[13:14] <needalilhelp> [ 1637.985646] perf samples too long (12725 > 10000), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 12500
[13:28] <akxwi-dave> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7880784/what-is-rss-and-vsz-in-linux-memory-management
[13:56] <needalilhelp> ok here we go screenshots of task manager, you might be able to make more out of it then me.
[13:57] <needalilhelp> right now its so slow that im typing this msg and it shows up like 10 sec. later in thetext field
[13:57] <needalilhelp> http://imgur.com/a/Yu9R2
[14:07] <needalilhelp> brb will try to restart the browser to see if it gets any better
[14:21] <ineedalilhelp> back, switched to FF now, instead Chrome, for some reason chrome is so slow, and is it possible that al those problems are caused by chrome? chrome does not see to be slow
[14:21] <ineedalilhelp> bvut i have also brave installed and brave behaves the same way like chrome
[14:21] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Chrome is a sow....
[14:21] <ineedalilhelp> so chrome could be the culprit?
[14:22] <ineedalilhelp> what browser to use then? in case that chrome is the drag
[14:23] <JohnnyComeL8ly> No, I'm just saying Chrome doesn't help.
[14:24] <ineedalilhelp> also i dont see the reason why chrome would drag down even my screensaver, it is stop motion now
[14:24] <JohnnyComeL8ly> It isn't a Chrome issue... I'm just saying that it won't help to run it.
[14:25] <ineedalilhelp> ah i see
[14:25] <ineedalilhelp> so.. how would i track down the reason for the problem i dont even know where to start
[14:25] <ineedalilhelp> any tips would be apriciated
[14:27] <ineedalilhelp> here is my dmesg output https://pastebin.com/raw/kfMUMzZa
[14:27] <ineedalilhelp> maybe that helps
[14:32] <Spass> ineedalilhelp: what kernel version are you using? (uname -r)
[14:33] <ineedalilhelp> Linux pgl 3.13.0-117-generic #164-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 7 11:05:26 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:36] <Spass> oh sorry for asking, kernel version was on top of your dmesg too
[14:37] <ineedalilhelp> no need for apologies
[14:38] <JohnnyComeL8ly> ineedalilhelp: It doesn't seem right that Chrome is registering 0% in your Task Manager, but Task Manager is 2.66%.
[14:39] <ineedalilhelp> well im not sure why it is hapening
[14:39] <ineedalilhelp> i have no idea why it slows down so much
[14:40] <ineedalilhelp> but right now i realize that firefox works for some reason
[14:40] <ineedalilhelp> im using firefox and can brwser normally
[14:40] <ineedalilhelp> but
[14:40] <ineedalilhelp> the thing that does not work normal is my screensaver its down to stop motion, im using mpv to playback a video with xscreensaver
[14:41] <ineedalilhelp> also chrome is damn slow
[14:41] <ineedalilhelp> even i restart chrome
[14:42] <ineedalilhelp> the only thing that fixes everything is a full restart of the computer, but that does not last for long, then its back down to a crawl
[14:43] <ineedalilhelp> and btw. the browser "Brave" behaves the same
[14:43] <Spass> ineedalilhelp: your issue appears only after you're away from computer for a while or even when you working on it?
[14:45] <JohnnyComeL8ly> It might sound stupid, but I think you have a kernel issue.  Idk.
[14:45] <ineedalilhelp> it happnes in both cases, working and not working on the computer
[14:45] <ineedalilhelp> so it might be the kernel?
[14:46] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Have you tried disabling the screensaver?
[14:46] <Spass> or disabling suspend
[14:46] <ineedalilhelp> no but it hapens even without the screensaver getting activated
[14:47] <ineedalilhelp> i mean it slows down while im using the comuter
[14:47] <ineedalilhelp> computer*
[14:47] <ineedalilhelp> without ever entering sleep state or activatting the screensaver
[14:48] <ineedalilhelp> right now the only browser that works is firefox
[14:49] <Spass> my guess - kernel issue or hard drive issue, but stay in the channel for some time, maybe somebody knows exactly what's wrong
[14:49] <ineedalilhelp> if i start chrome now it is slow as hell, but its only the chrome browser, and if i actiovate the screensaver, that one is also stop motion i.e. slow, but as said FF works
[14:50] <ineedalilhelp> yup just tried again the screensaver, the problem persits, but FF is not affected
[14:53] <JohnnyComeL8ly> There's a way to check if it is purely a harddrive issue... clone your HDD onto another one.
[14:56] <ineedalilhelp> if it was a harddriver issue, wouldnt that affect the whole System including all apps?
[14:57] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Yes, I was thinking about that.
[14:57] <JohnnyComeL8ly> "harddriver" lol
[14:57] <ineedalilhelp> lol
[14:59] <JohnnyComeL8ly> ineedalilhelp: You do have an old software setup... I would recommend booting into a liveUSB and copying essential data off the system partition.  After that, just grab Xubuntu 17.04 and make a fresh install!
[14:59] <ineedalilhelp> btw. even gimp works fine
[15:00] <ineedalilhelp> i know i have an old OS, but the thing is, i installed it a few days ago, so it is actually fresh and the reason is because the fglrx driver wont run with a newer kernel
[15:00] <ineedalilhelp> i want to run Playonlinux with dx11 support, which works
[15:00] <ineedalilhelp> in this setup
[15:01] <ineedalilhelp> have the ATI HD5850 Radeon with 1GB ram
[15:02] <JohnnyComeL8ly> So, it is only some things that have a slowness issue?
[15:02] <ineedalilhelp> yeah, thats the strange thing
[15:03] <ineedalilhelp> even running a game works, but chrome like kills the whole system and the screensaver too and also the brave browser
[15:04] <ineedalilhelp> its a strange and "to me" a mysterious thing
[15:05] <ineedalilhelp> if it was the browser, lets say chrome if it was some memory leak thing, wouldnt a restart of the brwoser solve the issue?
[15:05] <ineedalilhelp> if so, it doesnt
[15:06] <ineedalilhelp> and the more strange thing is, whe  the probem happens with chrome, and even i did not open brave browser, the same thing happens anyway
[15:09] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Is the game a 3d one?
[15:10] <ineedalilhelp> yes it is star trek online it requiers dx11 support currently only working with wine 2.3 stage version
[15:29] <JohnnyComeL8ly> So, I'm not sure... is there a library that Chrome and Brave share?
[15:35] <ineedalilhelp> i dont know, how can i check that?
[15:36] <ineedalilhelp> also then, i guess mpv should share the same library?
[15:36] <ineedalilhelp> i mean since it happnes also when using the screensaver
[15:36] <ineedalilhelp> also maybe xscreensaver in addition
[16:18] <Cursarion> I upgraded Thunar to 1.6.11 in hopes of getting rid of the file rename crash bug, but now it seems to freeze because of other activities, far more often
[16:18] <Cursarion> :(
[16:43] <flocculant> Cursarion: bug 1679488 - which has an updated package available in one of the team ppa's (or info on how to build and patch) we need to get that landed in 17.10 and then we can sru
[16:51] <Cursarion> looks what I have, I think I also had temporary files there
[16:51] <Cursarion> looks like*
[19:12] <rud0lf> Cursarion: my thunar freezes very often when i use right-click menu action like "open console from here" or "make archive"
[19:12] <rud0lf> sometimes even when double-click on executable
[23:33] <horaz> Hi
[23:34] <horaz> Some italian speakers?