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Trevinhomorning...02:57
dufluMorning Trevinho03:16
dufluWhat's left of it03:16
Trevinho:-)03:17
TrevinhoI'm good now03:17
TrevinhoLaney: good morning...07:18
TrevinhoLaney: any clue why the bileto Britney Job doesn't start?07:19
TrevinhoOr... sil2100 ^?07:19
sil2100Trevinho: no clue, I'll try to investigate in a moment07:20
Trevinhosil2100: thanks07:20
oSoMoNgood morning07:30
Laneymorning08:02
davmor2Morning all08:06
sil2100Morning08:07
Laneyhey Trevinho sil2100 oSoMoN & davmor2!08:08
dednickgood friday all!08:15
dednicksaying goodbye to upstart. nice way to start the day.208:16
dednickdon't ask if i was being serious or not. because i don't know either...08:17
willcookemorning dednick08:26
willcookehey Laney  davmor208:26
willcookehola sil210008:26
Trevinhohey willcooke08:28
willcookeevening Trevinho08:28
Trevinhostill afternoon... :-), but in a nice working spot08:28
willcookeHave you got a cocktail in a cocnut with an umbrella in it?  I bet you have08:29
TrevinhoNo... Not yet...08:29
Trevinhoit's office time! :-)08:29
duflu(cocktail without an umbrella)08:29
willcooke:))  Ok, you convinced me08:29
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Trevinhohttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8kojHTxW/20170428_163106.jpg08:31
Laneyhey willcooke08:31
Laneyhow's it going?08:31
Laneyspring is back a bit08:32
willcookeIs good.  Have my work items list for the sprint next week.  Need to pack my bags today.08:32
Laneyoh yeah that08:32
willcookeMinimum temp. over night was a balmy 6 degrees08:33
willcookeThe mercury is going up too: http://imgur.com/a/CPa6208:33
Laneygot some chard and some kale plugs last night08:34
Laneyprobably keep them indoors for a bit longer ...08:34
seb128good morning desktopers08:34
willcookeLaney, wise!  Keep them away from the slugs as well08:35
willcookemorning seb12808:35
* Laney is trying egg shells in a couple of places08:35
Laneyhave to do quite a thick layer and it looks like shit08:35
Laneybut I think it works08:35
Laneyhey seb12808:35
Laneyhow are you?08:36
willcookeI heard that those "organic slug pellets" are still terrible for wildlige all round08:36
TrevinhoMh, I've some problems in one of my laptops (xenial), for some reason the gnome-keyring doesn't seem to work when starting the session. Well it does start, but it seesm the lightdm one is still alive and for some reason the session one doesn' start properly.08:36
willcookeI wonder if something like porridge oats would work?08:36
Laneymm08:37
Laneywouldn't it break down?08:37
davmor2Laney, willcooke: the old fashion beer traps actually work08:37
dufluTrevinho, was that photo really from 2 minutes ago?08:37
duflu5 minutes08:37
dufluish08:37
davmor2http://www.slugoff.co.uk/killing-slugs/beer-trap08:37
Laneycan't really do it in containers though08:38
Laneythat's where the delicious stuff is08:38
Trevinhoduflu: yep08:38
Trevinhoduflu: why?08:38
dufluTrevinho, you're just very quick with publishing.08:39
willcookedavmor2, ah yes!08:39
willcookeLaney, I think it would rot down, but might be a bit less unsighyly than egg shells?  And easier to get in quantity.08:40
Laneybleddy creatures08:40
davmor2willcooke: works on developers too offer them free beer and watch the productive increase ;)  They might not fall for it a second time once they realise it is a trap though they are clevererer than slugs :D08:41
seb128Laney, had better days but mostly fine, you?08:41
Laneynot bad thanks08:41
* Laney hugs seb128 :(08:41
davmor2seb128: :( you not well dude, if so get better soon :)  If it is just that it is a miserable day I feel ya08:42
davmor2okay guys why would there be no menus in hexchat on gnome?08:48
davmor2All I get is global menu that just lists quit08:48
* seb128 hugs Laney back08:50
dednickTrevinho: jealous!08:54
dednicklooks like you're working from a spa hotel. lol08:54
willcookedavmor2, I think that's probably a header bars thing.  GNOME getting rid of app menus08:56
willcookeoh, Laney, I got an email from Brian Murray.  He says he's set up the rls-<foo>-<bar> reports for "aa" not "a"08:57
Laneywtf08:57
Laneyhttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/08:57
Laneynothing like consistency08:57
willcookeLaney, you got mail08:57
Laneyoh well, not a big deal to move some tags08:58
dednickdavmor2: it seems to be the "app menu" only for some apps. think they've integrated all the window menus into headers.08:58
dednicksame for chrome.08:58
Trevinhodednick: just a villa.... 20€ each for night, with awesome rooms... That's the nice thing of Bali.08:58
dednickTrevinho: you're in Bali?!08:59
dednickbastard08:59
Trevinhodednick: yeah...08:59
dufluTrevinho, private or shared pool?08:59
Trevinhoduflu: shared but all the rooms are occupied by my friends...08:59
TrevinhoSo basically the house is all ours08:59
dufluSounds terrible08:59
dednickTrevinho: shame. didnt have enough for your own pool?08:59
dednicklol08:59
* Trevinho is greedy09:00
dednickslacker. 9C here...09:00
Trevinhothat's why I'm staying here for other 20 days, even in italy weather isn't the nicest thing09:00
Trevinhobtw... sil2100 found anything for that silo?09:01
Trevinhoor Laney I guess you won't publish it before having automated testing done, right=09:01
Trevinho?09:01
Laneynope09:02
Laneyhe's looking into it09:02
Trevinhowhich is right.. ok.09:02
* Laney can see activity in the sysadmin channel09:02
Laneyif bileto's busted that needs to get fixed09:02
Laneyjust got a notification on my phone09:03
Laney4 years ago today we were in Oakland09:03
willcooke3 years ago we were in China09:04
Laneyman09:05
Laneythat was basically your first day wasn't it?09:05
Laneyor thereabouts09:06
willcookeon, wait - that was August09:06
willcookeyeah09:06
Laneywhat an induction09:06
Laneyaugust - close enough09:06
willcookeI really hoped we'd go back.  I wanted another run at that toboggan thing just without some slow coaches in front of us09:08
Trevinhowillcooke: agreeeedoooooo!09:09
Trevinhowillcooke: I waited so long for the front one to go, before starting... And although it was already there!09:10
Trevinhowe had to hit it...09:10
willcooke:DD09:10
willcookehttps://goo.gl/photos/63xVZ9aeB7H1QjLz809:12
Laney:D09:17
Laneyah man09:18
Laneyit's also Ed Balls day09:18
chrisccoulsonhi desktop team09:28
* Laney cries at Lanscape09:28
Laneyd09:28
Laneysiofaoih09:28
Laneyhi chrisccoulson09:28
chrisccoulsonHappy Ed Balls day Laney!09:28
LaneyI knew I felt lighter on my feet this morning but couldn't quite identify why!09:29
Laneyand to you chrisccoulson!09:29
Laneyoh, I've got a physio appointment later09:30
Laney...good job I loaded up my calendar to add Ed Balls day...09:31
Laneymeh09:34
LaneyLandscape's just erroring09:34
davmor2meh I disabled location, the icon disappears from indicators +1, the option to turn it back on from the indicator menu also disappears -109:37
davmor2well that's intuitive I found the preferences menu for hexchat it's a right click on the stupid slidey out thing bottom left09:59
davmor2that I think might be the tray icons10:00
TrevinhoIt's time to jump in the pool for me :-)10:16
Trevinhohave a nice weekend desktoppers..10:16
Trevinholong weekend for most of us I guess.10:17
willcookecya Trevinho, have a good one10:17
Trevinhoyou too willcooke10:17
willcookeGet that cocktail sorted out :)10:17
Trevinhowe've beers for now, but that will happen indeed10:18
oSoMoNhave a good one Trevinho10:22
dufluMe too, later Trevinho, all10:24
duflu(minus the pool)10:24
ksamakandyrock: Trevinho: hi, just a quick reminder, i updated https://code.launchpad.net/~ksamak/compiz/ezoom_focus_tracking/+merge/321643 and https://code.launchpad.net/~ksamak/compiz/showmouse_autostart_option/+merge/31872510:37
ksamakso if you got time to have a look, feel free ;-)10:38
seb128Trevinho, enjoy your w.e10:41
davmor2Laney: do you know if the indicators menu and icons are dynamic or do they only land on a session start?11:18
LaneyI don't know how it works in shell11:18
davmor2Laney: I disabled location from the indicator menu, the icon and the menu entry disappeared I opened setting and re-enabled expecting to see it reappear but nothing, and I don't want to restart right now but will later so I can see if it loads back up then11:20
flocculantjbicha: gnome-font-viewer in zesty allows for adding font, just installed on artful and that's gone, just appears to now be a font viewer - is that the case?11:29
flocculant(on Xubuntu in case that matters)11:29
jbichagood morning11:31
flocculantjbicha: hi :)11:31
jbichauh, that app is the same version in zesty and artful11:31
flocculantnever know what tz's people are in :)11:31
flocculantjbicha: oh - sorry - looking at packages.u.c11:32
jbichaI'm US Eastern11:32
flocculantanyway - case remains - in zesty there's an Add option that I'm not seeing on Artful here?11:32
jbichacould you file a bug with screenshots and more details?11:34
flocculantjbicha: okey doke11:34
flocculantjbicha: now I'm told that it was there in 16.04 ... I'll file bug anyway, unless Gnome actually removed that option?11:39
jbichacan you reproduce this yourself or are you just forwarding what someone else is saying?11:39
jbichaoSoMoN: I tried your 1359 build (w/ gtk3) and it seems to work fine here on 17.04; if you want a bit more testing you could upload to artful?11:41
flocculantjbicha: I've installed it locally to check (artful) definitely missing for me here - it is JUST viewing installed fonts for me - np reporting it :)11:43
flocculantbiab11:43
dednickanyone here know why if i use 'quilt refresh' on a debian/patch, it changes the file format? Not in 'git diff' style anymore :/11:48
Laneythat's just what it does11:50
jbichadednick: this is what I have in my ~/.quiltrc  it's not quite like git diff but closer: https://paste.debian.net/929852/11:51
LaneyIf you want real git diffs then you can export them from git using format-patch11:52
jbichaanother way is to use git-buildpackage and use gbp pq11:53
LaneyRight, this is option overload /me goes away11:53
dednickjbicha: mine is similar, but i'm getting Index: nm-1.6/libnm/nm-manager.c11:54
dednick===================================================================11:54
dednick--- nm-1.6.orig/libnm/nm-manager.c      2017-04-28 12:34:10.278642076 +010011:54
dednick+++ nm-1.6/libnm/nm-manager.c   2017-04-28 12:34:10.278642076 +010011:54
dednick@@ -1,4 +1,5 @@11:54
meetingologydednick: Error: "@" is not a valid command.11:54
dednick /* -*- Mode: C; tab-width: 4; indent-tabs-mode: t; c-basic-offset: 4 -*- */11:54
dednick+11:54
dednick /*11:54
dednick  * This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or11:54
dednick  * modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public11:54
dednick@@ -789,7 +790,7 @@ find_active_connection_by_path (NMManage11:54
meetingologydednick: Error: "@" is not a valid command.11:54
dednick static void11:54
dednick recheck_pending_activations (NMManager *self)11:54
dednick {11:54
dednick-       NMManagerPrivate *priv = NM_MANAGER_GET_PRIVATE (self);11:54
dednick+       NMManagerPrivate *priv;11:54
dednick        GSList *iter, *next;11:55
dednick        NMActiveConnection *candidate;11:55
dednick        const GPtrArray *devices;11:55
dednick@@ -797,6 +798,9 @@ recheck_pending_activations (NMManager *11:55
meetingologydednick: Error: "@" is not a valid command.11:55
dednick        GDBusObjectManager *object_manager = NULL;11:55
dednick        GError *error;11:55
dednick 11:55
dednick+       g_return_if_fail (NM_IS_MANAGER (self));11:55
dednick+11:55
dednick+       priv = NM_MANAGER_GET_PRIVATE (self);11:55
dednick        object_manager = _nm_object_get_dbus_object_manager (NM_OBJECT (self));11:55
dednickdoh!11:55
dednickstupid paste11:55
dednickthat was supposed to be a pastebin link :/11:55
dednickhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24472542/11:55
xnoxhahahahaha =) happens, still funny11:55
xnoxlooks nice though11:55
dednickrather than this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24472545/11:56
jbichaisn't NM packaging already in git?11:56
Sweetsharktasty copypasta for lunch.11:56
dednickjbicha: i'm refreshing the patches.11:57
dednickfor 1.611:57
dednickah. i'm probably supposed to be useing gbp pq.11:58
jbichayes, I think that's how Debian is doing it12:00
jbichajust keep the patch-queue/master branch local and don't push it to LP because it's just a working branch12:01
dednickjbicha: ack. ta.12:02
jbichathanks for working on NM :)12:04
jbichais seb128 out today?12:10
willcookejbicha, yeah12:12
jbichayay, I'll just break a few things while he's not looking ;)12:12
willcooke:)12:12
jbichaI want to get his input on dropping pkg-gnome-compat-desktop-file, so next week LP: #160690112:13
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1606901 in nautilus (Ubuntu Xenial) "Clicking "Show details" in AO for Nautilus produces "Could not find 'nautilus.desktop'" error from gnome-software" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160690112:13
oSoMoNjbicha, thanks! there’s packages with GTK3 for all supported series in https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-next/+packages12:31
oSoMoNjbicha, that version of chromium (58) is still beta though12:32
oSoMoNnot sure it’s suitable for artful, even though it’s a development series12:32
jbichaand artful is still alpha ;)12:32
oSoMoNtbh I don’t know what Chad did in this regard, but it would make sense to push the beta to artful12:33
oSoMoNchrisccoulson, do you know? ^12:33
jbichaChad did not push betas like that as far as I remember12:34
chrisccoulsonhe didn't. I did at one point push Firefox beta to the development release12:36
chrisccoulsonHigh DPI is broken with use_gtk3 in chromium btw12:36
chrisccoulsonhttps://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=71613512:37
jbichachrisccoulson: where should the chromium beta PPA live? what do you think about reviving https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily ?12:38
LaneyIf the compatibility desktop files are removed, then upgrades need to be handled.12:43
LaneyFor desktop environments that aren't just Shell.12:43
LaneyI'm off to an appointment, back in ab it.12:43
Beretanyone available to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1675933 ?12:49
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1675933 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm fails to start" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:49
BeretI'm sure folks are going to be wanting to play with or use gnome shell in zesty and it's a royal pain atm unless you use the gnome flavor12:50
jbichaLaney: LP: #166229612:53
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1662296 in unity (Ubuntu) "Remap renamed .desktop files" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166229612:53
jbichathe compatibility script is broken and I'm not sure how much responsibility we have for upgrading other desktops12:55
* kenvandine is undoing old work... so fitting :)13:14
kenvandinei've been working on undoing all my old patches to empathy13:14
kenvandinei'll also update it to the latest version13:15
oSoMoNchrisccoulson, ack, thanks13:15
kenvandineLaney, jbicha: ^^ so we don't duplicate efforts :)13:15
jbichathanks13:15
kenvandinemy current work in progress https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/empathy/no_unity_no_uoa/+merge/32338413:16
kenvandineit's removing a bunch of binaries that aren't useful anymore, with UOA13:16
kenvandineand moving the goa plugin back to the empathy binary, since that's all we'll support anyway13:16
jbichaif the Unity patches still apply, I'm not sure whether we want to remove them now?13:17
kenvandinei don't think we lose much13:17
kenvandinelike the file transfer in the launcher13:17
kenvandinei know there will still be unity users, but it's not that important to have the progress in the launcher13:17
kenvandinesame for the ido message dialog for answering voip calls... we can just do what upstream does now13:18
kenvandinethat was just because we had designs that didn't match upstream13:18
jbichamaybe that's a topic for next week's meeting?13:19
kenvandinesure13:19
kenvandinei'm not going to upload it this week :)13:19
kenvandineit's a big packaging change13:19
kenvandinemostly because of dropping uoa13:19
jbichaI think we're killing UOA because it's simpler to just go along with GOA13:20
kenvandineyeah13:21
kenvandinewe're not going to maintain UOA anymore13:22
kenvandineso we'll switch to GOA13:22
Laneyjbicha: yes, but (1) a bug report isn't going to get it fixed, (2) caring about only one environment isn't very good13:57
LaneyI like how our thing is a hack but gnome-shell's massive table isn't13:57
Laneydoes that table work for mimetype opening?13:58
jbichagnome-shell's approach is a hack too13:59
Laneythe point of doing it the way we chose to was to try to support as many environments as possible14:00
Laneyotherwise we could have just done a session migration script14:00
LaneyI suppose one way would be indeed to use session migration and ask all flavours to contribute code to port their stuff14:02
Laneykenvandine: Just FYI I'm not actively working on any patches / updates atm, so don't worry about colliding with me14:06
Laneywell, gstreamer, but nobody else will touch that :)14:06
* willcooke is cooking a plan for GStream and VA API14:07
willcooke(as usual)14:07
willcooke*GStreamer14:07
Laneybaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahah14:07
* Laney ahem14:07
jbichakenvandine: I think it's ok to push stuff like your empathy work directly to the ubuntu-desktop branch14:07
kenvandineLaney, i made the mistake of touching that once... i won't do it again :)14:08
LaneyI'm living in your shadow right now14:08
Laneythe move-some-plugins-to-good stuff14:08
kenvandinejbicha, not yet, i like having it in a WIP branch to easily see the diff14:08
kenvandineLaney, yeah... i did that one time and it was 2 years of hell :)14:09
Laneyheh14:09
kenvandinemoving plugins suck14:09
jbichaI pushed my nautilus 3.24 to the desktop branch but I don't know how to handle tracker14:09
kenvandinejbicha, without tracker it's pretty useless right?14:09
* kenvandine really doesn't want tracker by default14:10
kenvandinethere was a time i tried to convince people we did... i lost that battle and in hindsight is thankful14:10
jbichaI don't think it will be useless, it just won't work as nicely14:11
kenvandinei need to re-read that thread14:11
jbichatracker is supposed to be better than it was a few years ago14:12
kenvandinejbicha, lol... i've heard that before :)14:12
kenvandinewhen i was pushing for it by default we had been told it was rewritten and greatly improved, yada yada14:12
kenvandineit wasn't better :)14:13
kenvandinejbicha, just saying i'm still skeptical... and i'm an annoyingly optimistic person14:13
kenvandineif you ask my wife :)14:13
* kenvandine runs out for an appointment, bbiab14:14
dobeytracker itself doesn't seem to be as horrible any more14:39
dobeybut the way it's used in GNOME is :-/14:39
kenvandinehey dobey15:19
dobeyhey kenvandine15:20
jbichathe Books, Documents, Games, Music and Photos apps all require Tracker; GNOME Shell requires Tracker for file search in the Activities Overview15:20
jbichait looks like Nautilus' new Batch Rename feature is not enabled if nautilus is built without tracker15:21
dobeyyep15:22
dobeyand needs tracker-miner-fs to actually find things15:22
kenvandinethat's unfortunate15:23
dobeyand having every random mp3 ogg wave etc file on my system show up under gnome music is also really awesome15:23
dobeyi always wanted to shuffle through all the sound effects from every game in my steam library15:24
kenvandinelol15:24
dobeyalso i can totally vouch for kenvandine being annoyingly optimistic ;)15:27
kenvandinelol15:27
jbichaI don't have that problem with my gnome-music, I thought it only used your XDG_MUSIC_DIR15:27
dobeyi don't think it does, but i didn't go debugging very far when i hit it15:30
dobeyi just uninstalled tracker-miner-fs and the apps and deleted the tracker db15:30
kenvandineif it does index the whole system, i bet that's a patch upstream might take15:38
kenvandinejbicha, do you know about any of the palm detection stuff that replaced the ability to disable the touchpad while typing?15:40
kenvandineit doesn't work very well on my laptop, driving me nuts15:40
kenvandinecurious what component to look at15:41
oSoMoNqengho, hey, I was wondering whether https://translations.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+templates is still in use?15:41
oSoMoNlooks like the pots were last updated 2 years ago15:41
jbichakenvandine: make sure you don't have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed15:41
kenvandineah... i do15:42
jbichauninstall it and log out and back in15:42
kenvandinecool15:42
jbichaGNOME uses -libinput but if synaptics is installed then it will override libinput which will break GNOME's mouse & touchpad settings15:42
kenvandinetime will tell if that helped15:45
kenvandinei could never reproduce it at will15:45
kenvandinebut when i wasn't trying to... it was terrible15:45
jbichaGNOME uses -libinput but if synaptics is installed then it will override libinput which will break GNOME's mouse & touchpad settings15:45
jbichaUnity7 might be the only reason Ubuntu still offers -synaptics15:46
jbichaif Nautilus is built with --enable-tracker (like it currently is), Batch Rename works; but its metadata templates won't work15:51
kenvandinei don't think batch rename is a feature average users will even know exists15:51
kenvandinewe shouldn't cater to that15:51
jbichaso I think I'll just upload 3.24 as is (without the tracker dependency and without the now-obsolete ubuntu_tracker_only_on_GNOME.patch )15:52
jbichaif someone has tracker installed (because of something else pulling it in or whatever) then nautilus will gain a few more features15:53
kenvandinehmm... after a logout/login now scaling in chrome is terrible15:54
kenvandineeverything is tiny15:54
kenvandineit was fine15:54
jbichakenvandine: is that https://codereview.chromium.org/2852593002/ ?15:55
kenvandinejbicha, maybe... but why would that have changed today15:56
kenvandinehmmm... maybe a chrome update15:56
jbichaDebian's nautilus only suggests tracker too15:57
kenvandinei think that's sensible15:57
kenvandineok, i have chrome beta 5915:57
jbichabut Debian GNOME would still have tracker installed15:58
jbichabut besides that bug, gtk3 Chrome is nice, right?16:16
kenvandinejbicha, hard to enjoy it... when everything is so tiny16:26
Laneykenvandine: have you ever tried OpenTTD on hidpi?16:27
kenvandinebut i've been looking forward to this16:27
Laneyit's the best16:27
kenvandinenope16:27
Laneynot to play, but to look at16:27
* kenvandine googles16:27
Laneybecause it's not scaled16:27
kenvandineLaney, lol, that's a little worse than chrome16:32
Laney:D16:32
dobeyeh16:44
dobey"have you *tried* playing this game that was designed for 320x200 displays on HiDPI yet?!"16:44
kenvandinedobey, that's awesome right?16:44
* ogra_ guesses you need a really tiny joystick16:45
dobeykenvandine: oh, openttd isn't too bad. you can set it to 3840x2160 and full screen16:46
willcookehappy weekend everyone16:46
* willcooke goes to pack16:46
willcookeo/16:47
Laneybye willcooke16:47
Laneyhappy flight16:47
willcookecheers!16:47
Laneymay you forever get bumped to business16:47
Laneystupid quitters16:47
seb128lol16:49
kenvandinehey seb12816:49
dobeythe audio seems to clip a lot though16:49
seb128hey kenvandine16:56
flocculantjbicha: sorry for the pointless noise earlier - not sure how someone saw http://i.imgur.com/Xdd8q4a.png, I see http://i.imgur.com/mvmAovC.png in Xubuntu AND Gnome Artful Daily ...17:06
flocculantguessing it was a bit old17:08
jbichaflocculant: that is what it looks like in 16.04 LTS17:09
ogra_did anyone notice that gnome permanenetly accesses the camera on laptops to auto-adjust the brightness ?17:09
flocculantjbicha: ok ty - I shouldn't deal with things lunchtime ...17:10
kenvandineogra_, that's slightly creepy17:11
ogra_kenvandine, yes17:11
jbichaogra_: are you sure it's the camera and not just an ambient light sensor?17:11
ogra_i was wondering for a week why my display brightness seems to go up and down ... now i tried with a lamp, pointing it to the camera makes my screen go fully bright17:12
ogra_jbicha, to my knowledge this laptop doesnt have an ambient sensor17:12
kenvandineinteresting... i just put my hand over the camera and it did dim a little17:13
jbichasome guys in #gnome-design (irc.gnome.org) today said that Simple Scan let them use their webcam as a scanner17:14
kenvandinethat's kind of neat... i wonder how it looks17:14
jbichaI have a webcam in my laptop but it doesn't do either of those!17:14
jbichaI think it was a bug actually17:14
ogra_perhaps i have an ambient sensor built into the camera that i dont know about :)17:15
kenvandinesimple-scan didn't let me scan :)17:15
ogra_lshw, lsusb and lspci dont show anything related though17:15
kenvandineogra_, it's possible17:15
jbichakenvandine: I know, I'm jealous now! :) (re: scanning)17:16
kenvandinei finally figured out there was a control to disable rotation, which was terribly annoying17:17
kenvandinethe slightest bump to my laptop and the screen would rotate, and stay rotated17:17
ogra_ok ... i take that back ..17:21
ogra_... /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/device:01/PNP0C09:00/ACPI0008:00/iio:device0/in_illuminance_raw17:21
ogra_seems there is such a sensor17:21
ogra_so not using the camera then,, sorry for the noise17:22
* oSoMoN EOW17:37
oSoMoNhave a good week-end everyone17:37
Laneyme too17:45
Laneysee you tuesday17:45
kenvandineLaney, have a good weekend17:45
kenvandineogra_, must be the same for me, it's gotta be in the camera though17:45
ogra_sudo find /sys -name '*illuminance*'17:47
ogra_;)17:47
ogra_should tell you17:47
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