[07:45] <foobarry_> firefox tab separation doesn't seem to have achieved anything. whole browser still freezes :(
[07:49] <SuperMatt> Stop going to whichever site is causing it to freeze then
[07:49] <SuperMatt> I haven't had firefox freeze on me for yonks
[08:06] <foobarry> its random
[08:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:16] <diplo> Plugins issues foobarry ? I like SuperMatt don't have any freezes on a sub par laptop. Maybe try a fresh profile and see if that helps ?
[08:16] <diplo> I run the 64bit version though if that makes a difference
[08:16] <foobarry> thats the thing
[08:16] <foobarry> the profile needs purging every now and then
[08:17] <foobarry> its a pain
[08:17] <SuperMatt> Something's wrong with what you're doing
[08:17] <SuperMatt> stop doing that
[08:17] <foobarry> 50+ tabs?
[08:17] <diplo> I never do mine :)
[08:17] <foobarry> thats work innit
[08:17] <diplo> I rarely have that many in Firefox, more like 10-15 and then I start closing them
[08:17] <foobarry> wasn't there a tool to copy the useful bits to a new profile and clean it up?
[08:17] <diplo> I'd probably say that's more of the issue than anything else.
[08:18] <foobarry> the sqlite dbs get munged up
[08:50] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:05] <foobarry>  Cleaning urlclassifier3.sqlite                done  -18.56 Mbytes
[09:05] <foobarry>  Cleaning places.sqlite                        done  -16.31 Mbytes
[09:05] <foobarry>  Cleaning formhistory.sqlite                   done  -.12 Mbytes
[09:05] <foobarry> profile cleaner doing its thing
[09:06] <foobarry>  Profile(s) for firefox reduced by 43.93 Mbytes.
[09:08] <diplo> Can't say I've ever looked at something to do that
[09:08] <diplo> I do run ccleaner occasionally and that's about it on my windows box
[09:09] <foobarry> https://github.com/graysky2/profile-cleaner
[09:10] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Hapy Friday, and happy Hairball Awareness Day! 😃  🐈
[09:11] <diplo> Cheers!
[09:12] <davmor2> tempted to just link to smellycat and say I'm done :D
[09:12] <davmor2> JamesTait: ^
[09:13] <JamesTait> davmor2, Tom Jones?
[09:13] <JamesTait> What's New Pussy Cat?
[09:13] <davmor2> JamesTait: Smellycat is funnier
[09:13] <JamesTait> *hack* *hack* *wheeze* *splat*
[09:15] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5bBKsH0s5E
[09:19] <davmor2> JamesTait: only song I can think of that mentions a hairball
[09:20] <JamesTait> Good job, davmor2. ☺
[09:37] <JamesTait> davmor2, how could I have forgotten Ed Balls Day? :-O
[09:37] <awilkins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNAsdUUwGP4
[09:38] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=Czqtjk_iGFU
[09:42] <JamesTait> davmor2, he's a lot better than I'll ever be!
[09:44] <davmor2> JamesTait: put a smile on my face and I don't watch it, my wifes aunt pointed it out to me but I do like awilkins too but he beat me to the song :D
[09:44] <JamesTait> We're doing well on the video front today.
[10:28] <foobarry> sigh, deleting slack channel messages 100 at a time...
[10:41] <SuperMatt> can't be done in one fell swoop?
[10:45]  * davmor2 hits the button to trigger global thermal nuclear war to kill all the slack channels.......there easy :D
[10:48] <foobarry> found a tool on github to do it
[10:49] <foobarry> you can only delete 1 or 100 messages at a time.
[10:50] <SuperMatt> If corp ever decide to delete my team's slack channel, they're going to send a lot of time going through animated gifs of kittens
[10:51] <foobarry> we are realising rather late than #general is bad
[10:51] <foobarry> when you want to add the users you abused at a later stage
[10:52] <foobarry> or lets say the inappropriate comments about eating noises
[10:57] <foobarry> slack are gonna have to change their pricing model , its ridiculous
[10:58] <davmor2> SuperMatt: hahahahahaha
[11:17] <foobarry> tried that new thunderbird theme shown on omg
[11:17] <foobarry> with a few tweaks, its nice
[11:17] <SuperMatt> I'll just keep on using google inbox
[11:18] <SuperMatt> it works exactly how I need an email client to work
[11:18] <foobarry> on an always-on desktop at work, tb seems to give a more tangible feel to mail
[11:18]  * davmor2 hugs claws mail
[11:19] <SuperMatt> TBH, I think email needs to go the way of the dodo, but figuring out something to replace it isn't easy
[11:21] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/kULXz
[11:22] <davmor2> SuperMatt: yeah that is the problem, twitter/facebook/G+/slack/telegram...... all do a job but none replace email it still lives on because nothing beats it hands down
[11:23] <SuperMatt> email's biggest advantage is it's biggest disadvantage too, the fact that it's decentralised
[11:26] <davmor2> SuperMatt: and any client can plug into it because it has a standard that rarely changes
[11:29] <SuperMatt> indeed
[11:29] <SuperMatt> but the issue is, as show by email, by decentralising you have to come up with a robust verification method
[11:45] <awilkins> Slack are like facebook - turning PHP and MySQL into bank
[11:45] <awilkins> http://www.infoworld.com/article/3191210/cloud-computing/why-slack-cant-slow-down.html
[11:46] <awilkins> Oh : http://www.infoworld.com/article/3191210/cloud-computing/why-slack-cant-slow-down.html
[11:46] <awilkins> oops
[11:46] <awilkins> http://www.nhsbuntu.org/
[11:50] <SuperMatt> that looks like a gateway to hell
[11:50] <SuperMatt> While I agree that the NHS using Ubuntu would be great, if it's a fork rather than a spin, they're going to end up with a security nightmare
[12:06] <diddledan> this is fun: https://scotthelme.co.uk/nomx-the-worlds-most-secure-communications-protocol/ <-- hint it isn't
[12:39] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan: renamed to "nosec", "nowork", or "nouse"?
[14:04] <diddledan> winner winner, chicken dinner: https://youtu.be/d_S9YsD9Y0c
[14:18] <SuperEngineer> errrmmmm.. don't they do building supplies?
[18:20] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_S9YsD9Y0c
[18:20] <daftykins> XD ace video from Dave at EEVblog
[19:08] <diddledan> I've shared this before, but https://github.com/veorq/oee
[19:08] <diddledan> daftykins: I already posted that at 15:04:25
[19:08] <diddledan> tis like two lines (of real talking) before you
[19:09] <daftykins> oh wow so you did
[19:09] <daftykins> he's a jammy devil eh?
[19:27] <diddledan> what's happening in the bananas right now?
[19:27] <diddledan> apparently something big has gone wrong
[19:28] <daftykins> which diddled fruit is that?
[19:28] <diddledan> it's an island
[19:28] <daftykins> bahamas?
[19:28] <diddledan> yeah, bananas
[19:31] <diddledan> Theresa is moaning that European countries are being unified. almost like they're in a union! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-labour-supporters-general-election-lend-me-their-vote-brexit-success-eu-tory-leader-a7706096.html
[19:33] <daftykins> "they're ganging up against us!"
[19:33] <daftykins> where us is you, i mean
[19:33] <zmoylan-pi> it's not a problem, they can just dump the cost of brexit on the poor people... and spare the bankers...
[19:36] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: worked for trump and his wall
[19:37] <zmoylan-pi> he should make a bid on the chinese wall and see if they'll deliver...
[19:39] <diddledan> seriously? have you not seen what the chinese wall keeps out?! https://youtu.be/6SKI9rgqFck
[19:43] <zmoylan-pi> they really don't know how to not whitewash a movie do they? or is it ok to whitewash if there's a big wall in it?
[19:45] <daftykins> ooh Ubuntu 12.04 went EOL today :)
[19:46] <daftykins> there's a milestone
[19:46] <diddledan> yup
[19:46] <diddledan> old place of work _finally_ shut down their 12.04 box yesterday
[19:46] <diddledan> they went right up to the wire, right?!
[19:49] <daftykins> typical!
[19:50] <zmoylan-pi> so they replaced it with a system running xp then? :-P
[19:50] <diddledan> they've been rolling out 14.04 - I think they finally realised they should move that rollout onto 16.04 rather than finish it
[19:51] <daftykins> hahaha
[19:51] <diddledan> I really don't understand why people are so afraid to change stuff
[19:52] <zmoylan-pi> years and years of updates breaking things?
[19:52] <daftykins> must be due to how much the wheel gets reinvented i suppose
[19:52] <daftykins> i think i went from a 10.04 VM straight up to 14.04 last - quite some changes in how apache's configs are laid out :> but not so big in the grand scheme
[20:43] <foobarry> i have 2 centos 5 boxes that aren't built with puppet. its a pain to migrate the service and have lots of other things to do
[20:43] <foobarry> so much to do, so little time
[20:44] <foobarry> when its quite complex apps that are painful to migrate and usually provide reliable service, its hard to do it
[20:44] <foobarry> you just say, just another week
[21:45] <daftykins> diddledan: oh i have an amusing tale for you, prepped an old PC from a friends workplace for his wifes art gallery... popped the can and vacuumed it out etc, fired it up - oh look 14 bad sectors on the disk
[21:45] <daftykins> grabbed a spare 320GB laptop drive of mine to toss in, oh look bad sectors :D
[21:45] <diddledan> dodgy chip?
[21:45] <daftykins> third time was the charm though
[21:45] <daftykins> nah really was the disks
[21:45] <diddledan> aah
[21:46] <diddledan> I was getting errors spewed to the console on my xenserver box. swapped-out the cable and moved the drive to a different sata connector on the mobo and it appears stable now
[21:46] <daftykins> \o/
[21:47] <diddledan> has gone several days where prior it was breaking after a few hours
[21:47]  * diddledan tests it now
[21:47] <diddledan> yup, still working fine
[21:48] <daftykins> they're a pain those, i usually snip and bin the SATA cables regardless
[21:49] <diddledan> they're nice and cheap these days
[21:49] <daftykins> yipyip, i just get by on spares from mobos and that too
[21:49] <daftykins> that Dell and its' proprietary power one scuppered me though - http://i.imgur.com/keppJK0.jpg
[21:49] <diddledan> aye, new mobos coming with 2 or more cables is nice
[21:50] <daftykins> Asus were quite rude with mine and only included 2 :<
[21:50] <daftykins> Z170 board too
[21:51] <diddledan> that looks like a sata data plug
[21:51] <diddledan> I hope it's not the same shape
[21:51] <diddledan> "I'll just plug this into that drive's sata port" *bang*
[21:52] <daftykins> ah it's the mobo end on the right that's the devil, the middle is just a teeny tiny for a slimline optical
[21:52] <daftykins> Dell seem to have moved to putting laptop style drives in to make their cases smaller
[21:52] <diddledan> aah
[21:52] <diddledan> so that doesn't come from the PSU?
[21:53] <daftykins> nope! mobo
[21:53] <diddledan> weird
[21:53] <daftykins> the PSU is some teeny tiny jobby that hs funky connectors too
[21:53] <diddledan> I thought the point of ATX was to get rid of proprietary crud
[21:54] <daftykins> best part? 5 phone transfers with Dell and some guy looked it up for me, the code on it there was no use to them
[21:54] <daftykins> the guy then said "yep that'll be £38 please"
[21:54] <diddledan> wat?!
[21:54] <daftykins> (had to buy a second to drive an SSD as well as the disk inside)
[21:54] <daftykins> yip!
[21:54] <daftykins> ended up finding one on ebay from Latvia for £12.50
[21:56] <diddledan> someone's been watching i-robot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5V_VzRrSBI
[21:56] <diddledan> it's elon musk's "the boring company"
[21:57] <daftykins> never did see that
[21:58] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqfs9yJALyc
[21:58] <diddledan> that's irobert
[22:01] <daftykins> :D
[22:01] <daftykins> hehe this is an oldie perhaps but i missed it - https://www.troyhunt.com/content/images/2016/02/46624661SNAGHTML3928683.png
[22:01] <diddledan> wtf?!
[22:08] <daftykins> https://www.troyhunt.com/reckon-youve-seen-some-stupid-security-things-here-hold-my-beer/
[22:10] <daftykins> i'm on the Betfair one XD
[22:25] <diddledan> daftykins: so. that strawberry.net. it is still like that
[22:25] <daftykins> :D looks fun
[22:27] <ali1234> wordpress emails new users their password
[22:28] <diddledan> daftykins: I just loaded this:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qqnDCXsf/
[22:29] <daftykins> :O eatmon sounds like a pokemon
[22:30] <daftykins> diddledan: you can self-gift them!
[22:33] <daftykins> heh the person i tried didn't have one :>