[00:00] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: Back to aquare one , Is the hardware seen and identified ' lspci | grep Ethernet ' ?
[00:00] <Bashing-om> square*
[00:01] <skinux> Can I add an owner to a file without taking ownership away from it's current owner?
[00:02] <FinalX> no, only one owns a file
[00:02] <FinalX> (it's the same in windows, also only one owner)
[00:02] <bumblefuzz> Bashing-om yep it sees the ethernet adapter
[00:04] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: next is a driver loaded '  sudo lshw -C network " look in the configuration line " driver=8139too : in my case .
[00:04] <skinux> Maybe someone can help me with this, searching isn't turning up anything useful https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657#file-apache-m
[00:07] <ScioMin> My wifi usb adapter still lists networks but wont connect anymore. I need help as posted here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2359742
[00:07] <bumblefuzz> ok
[00:07] <bumblefuzz> Bashing-om no driver listed
[00:08] <bumblefuzz> so, confusingly, the install image didn't include the same driver it used to connect to the internet in the actual install
[00:09] <pd1> ScioMin: may be this helps https://askubuntu.com/questions/902992/ubuntu-gnome-17-04-wi-fi-not-working-mac-address-keeps-changing
[00:09] <pd1> saw this problem here a few times now
[00:10] <ScioMin> pd1, i'm using Lubuntu 16.04.. But i'll try thanks! I'll come back with the result.
[00:10] <bumblefuzz> ...actually it's worse than that
[00:10] <bumblefuzz> there's nothing listed under configuration
[00:10] <bumblefuzz> except latency=0
[00:11] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: Uh Huh . The installer does not utilize the same assetts . So we need to see what driver we need and what it will take to get the driver installed . huh ?
[00:12] <bumblefuzz> I guess
[00:12] <bumblefuzz> I assumed since it could connect the installer would already know and, therefore, install the relevant driver
[00:13] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: We get a nic ID from ' inxi -ni '
[00:14] <Bashing-om>  chalcedony Still with us ? status ?
[00:14] <ScioMin> pd1, didn't worked sadly :( still worth a try. thanks! I'm starting to suspect of my kernel. It was updated recently. rtl8812au might not like 4.4.0-75. Is it dangerous to downgrade to linux-headers-4.4.0-31?
[00:15] <ScioMin> this is how my dmesg looks like: http://i.imgur.com/JT5pZtv.png
[00:20] <ccat> q: what browser is blessed by the great U? -- and is there any *actual* (irc?) tech-support for it?
[00:21] <bumblefuzz> Bashing-om: these are the instructions for my ethernet adapter: http://www.killernetworking.com/driver-downloads/knowledge-base?view=topic&id=2
[00:21] <bumblefuzz> the E2400
[00:22] <pavlos> ScioMin: does this help? ... iwconfig wlan0 power off
[00:22] <pd1> ccat: firefox seems to be preinstalled, chromium available - no idea where the irc's for them
[00:22] <bumblefuzz> I have to rebuild the kernel?
[00:23] <ScioMin> pavlos, here I had to do "sudo iwconfig wlx801f02fedc9a power off" and it gave an error: Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) :SET failed on device wlx801f02fedc9a ; Operation not permitted.
[00:24] <ccat> pd1: where do you all go for browser help then?
[00:25] <ScioMin> ccat, what's the issue?
[00:25] <nefarious> hello
[00:25] <bumblefuzz> Bashing-om: https://askubuntu.com/questions/843352/how-to-install-killer-e2400-gigabit-ethernet-controller-without-internet-conne#comment1292237_843352
[00:26] <bumblefuzz> this makes no sense
[00:26] <ccat> ScioMin: when in chromium devtools, how to access top doc if code exec is halted in iframe? top.document does not even work, and devtools context is already "top"
[00:26] <nacc> !alis | ccat
[00:26] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, in the process of trying to boot to the usb, he managed to get the 2 tb drive open, and is copying his stuff from there to the original Desktop file.
[00:27] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: Agreed. presently makes no sense . should work out of the box . .. seeing what uncle google has to say .
[00:27] <ScioMin> ccat, try /join #chromium
[00:27] <chalcedony> Desktop Directory
[00:27] <chalcedony> he is him. he has a headache.
[00:28] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: If all is well, all is well . We can put undelete back in pur poackets and call this day experience for the next time .
[00:29] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, lets see how it does, but yes i sure hope so. he started with this when i had 3 hours sleep
[00:29] <ccat> ScioMin: did... hours ago... thus the part about *actual* help
[00:31] <ScioMin> ccat, i see. isn't this more rlated to front-end development? AFAIK javascript is single-threaded. If code execution is locked I'd start by trying to fix why it got locked in first place.
[00:32] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: We do what we need to do . get some rest and as needed we do !
[00:32] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: Qualcomm Atheros network card ?
[00:32] <bumblefuzz> yup
[00:33] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: ouch ! look'n .
[00:35] <bumblefuzz> Bashing-om specifically E2400: http://www.killernetworking.com/driver-downloads/knowledge-base?view=topic&id=2
[00:36] <ScioMin> Alright. To fix this wifi card I'm willing to downgrade kernel from 4.4.0-75 back to 4.4.0-31. I'll need to re-install old kernel since autoremove deleted it. How can I do this?
[00:36] <ccat> ScioMin: it is just paused in the debugger
[00:37] <ScioMin> ccat, you'll probably have better luck in #javascript because this is a javascript issue regardless of the browser/operating system.
[00:38] <pavlos> ScioMin: can you pastebin the output of iwconfig ?
[00:38] <ccat> ScioMin: tried that too :(
[00:38] <ccat> ScioMin: ok ty -- must go - bbl
[00:38] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: Here are listed 2 other alternatives than patching : https://askubuntu.com/questions/670347/is-there-any-way-to-install-atheros-e2400-drivers . Will not hurt my feelings in the least to await others to comment . but maybe installing HWE will resolve ?
[00:38] <ThisGuyNeedsHelp> hey guys i'm trying to get 16.04 to authenticate against an samba ad server. I've followed the guide on the wiki but sssd fails to start giving me an error that no domains are configured despite me following the tutorial and setting up the config appropriately
[00:38] <ScioMin> pavlos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24470028/
[00:38] <bumblefuzz> Bashing-om I just had him reinstall with HWE
[00:39] <bumblefuzz> lol
[00:39] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: fingers crossed :)
[00:39] <pavlos> ScioMin: it does say that power management is off
[00:39] <ScioMin> pavlos, i just tried turning it on again.. got same result: not permitted
[00:40] <bumblefuzz> Bashing-om ok, wow, immediately after reboot, he says the screen is black
[00:40] <pavlos> ScioMin: it must be the kernel driver ... I'll keep searching
[00:41] <ScioMin> pavlos, i really appreciate your attention regardless of the result
[00:41] <bumblefuzz> that's the exact mobo though
[00:41] <bumblefuzz> that's causing all the problems
[00:41] <bumblefuzz> ...so weird
[00:41] <Oderus> anyone good at qml?? I'm trying to modify the breeze splash from having a black color rectangle background to a full screen image instead. here's the file. Wondering what changes I need to make at the top to achieve this? I'm clueless heh. https://paste.ubuntu.com/24468312/
[00:41] <ScioMin> pavlos, there some more info here generated by a debug script in case you need: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24466171/
[00:43] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: "nomodeset" as a boot parameter ? see if we get to a GUI ?
[00:43] <bumblefuzz> k
[00:43] <bumblefuzz> I really appreciate the help
[00:43] <bumblefuzz> I know some things
[00:43] <bumblefuzz> but I don't know a lot of things
[00:44] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: I too am aeare of a little on a few things :)
[00:44] <bumblefuzz> ok
[00:44] <Bashing-om> aware*
[00:44] <bumblefuzz> with the HWE kernel, the network is again unreachable
[00:45] <bumblefuzz> he's got a cli
[00:46] <bumblefuzz> are all MSI mobo's this bad?
[00:46] <bumblefuzz> or is it just the m5?
[00:47] <bumblefuzz> this is actually impressive for an ubuntu install
[00:51] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: Did you verify the booting Kernel is 4.10 ?
[00:52] <bumblefuzz> ahhh
[00:52] <bumblefuzz> it is 4.8.0-36
[00:52] <bumblefuzz> but it should be
[00:52] <bumblefuzz> with 16.04.2
[00:52] <bumblefuzz> shouldn't it?
[00:53] <ScioMin> pavlos, sudo apt-cache search 4.4.0-31 gave me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24470069/. I did: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-4.4.0-31 linux-image-4.4.0-31-generic linux-tools-4.4.0-31-generic linux-headers-4.4.0-31. Now I'll try to boot into the old kernel. BRB (hopefully)
[00:54] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: U do not know where HWE is on xenial . But the xenail kernel is : " sysop@x1604:/$ uname -r >> 4.4.0-75-generic " . so 4.8 "should" be good .
[00:59] <omenius_> I just noticed that my apt is not working and I'm missing the whole /etc/apt folder. How can this happen by accident? I haven't made any major changes in my system
[01:01] <ScioMin> pavlos, 4.4.0-31 booted but I had no mouse/keyboard working. I tried also booting 4.4.0-72 and reinstalling wifi but got same problem: list networks, doesn't connect to any. I'm back to 4.4.0-75.
[01:02] <omenius_> I think I have backups but how can this happen
[01:02] <bumblefuzz> Bashing-om 'sudo modprobe -v alx' even lists mdio.ko and alx.ko
[01:02] <ScioMin> how do I make dkms run after installing an older kernel with this?: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-4.4.0-31 linux-image-4.4.0-31-generic linux-tools-4.4.0-31-generic linux-headers-4.4.0-31
[01:02] <pavlos> ScioMin: ok, the module loaded is 8812au but it may not play well with the kernel driver
[01:02] <omenius_> last time I remember using apt is when I installed mumble yesterday, with no problems
[01:03] <ScioMin> pavlos, yeah it worked fine with 4.4.0-31. I think the auto kernel update broke it.
[01:03] <ScioMin> pavlos, my current problem is I can't test an older kernel because I don't know how to install 4.4.0-31 properly.
[01:04] <pavlos> ScioMin: you did the proper apt install of the 31 a few lines ago
[01:04] <ScioMin> i thought that wasn't the proper install since dkms didn't kicked to install the modules?
[01:05] <ScioMin> pavlos, how come I had no keyboard/mouse working when booting with it :(
[01:05] <pavlos> ScioMin: there is a linux-image-extra for the 31, can you install that, too?
[01:05] <ScioMin> sure i'll install reboot and test. brb
[01:07] <nirmal> hi
[01:07] <nirmal> anyone here?
[01:07] <pavlos> about 1800
[01:07] <nirmal> i'm here for the first time.
[01:08] <JoePhi> ScioMin: I think you may be looking for something like "dkms autoinstall 4.4.0-31".  Or with sudo as appropriate.  I've had similar problem when needing the VirtualBox modules and somehow they didn't build on install of an updated kernel
[01:08] <pavlos> !ask | nirmal
[01:09] <nirmal> ok
[01:09] <ScioMin> pavlos, before I reboot just a headsup: it complained that I should install "linux-headers-4.4.0-31-generic". This seemed to kick in the dkms/post install scripts. It is running atm. I'll reboot when it finishes.
[01:09] <pavlos> ScioMin: install the headers, yes.
[01:09] <JoePhi> That's true.  If the kernel headers aren't present for some version of the kernel, dkms often won't work
[01:10] <Bashing-om> bunchies: I am about at a loss as modprobe alx gives no joy . Take some one with greater driver skills than I .
[01:13] <omenius_> recovered /etc/apt from backup, but still interested if anyone has idea how can it be accidentally deleted
[01:17] <pavlos> omenius_: look at your bash_history, was a command mis-typed and removed the /etc/apt/ tree?
[01:17] <omenius_> I'm just looking but there is nothing to do with that folder
[01:20] <omenius_> it has to be this one bin file that I ran, but I did not use root or anything
[01:20] <pavlos> omenius_: did that bin file grab privileges and then wiped out things ?
[01:21] <omenius_> I'm not actually sure, can't remember. It's this file: http://www.wirelessorange.com/womic/softwares/micclient-ubuntu-x86_64
[01:22] <omenius_> "WO Mic can turn an Android phone to be a microphone for your computer."
[01:22] <omenius_> I've used this with windows
[01:22] <ScioMin> pavlos, 4.4.0-31 gave me same result: list networks but wont connect to any. I even booted Windows to test if the USB wifi adapter is not broken and it works fine on Windows 10. I can only think of one ore thing I did to brea kit: installed docker. Docker installed a network driver on my Lubuntu 16.04: http://i.imgur.com/Ogcxl4Z.png
[01:23] <ScioMin> pavlos, i'll try wiping and and all traces of docker of this machine.
[01:23] <pavlos> ScioMin: give those a try, I have to leave in a bit ... I will check later
[01:23] <ScioMin> pavlos, thank you!
[01:24] <omenius_> from the docs it looks like it's not using root
[01:25] <wizwizwizwiz> u
[01:26] <wizwizwizwiz> i'm using ubuntu 16.04 LTS on a nice newish intel machine. i'm connecting a usb midi keyboard controller and am getting this error message: unable to enumerate USB device
[01:27] <wizwizwizwiz> i also get this error message: device descriptor read/all, error -71
[01:27] <wizwizwizwiz> this happens both when i use a usb2 port and a usb3 port
[01:28] <wizwizwizwiz> when i connect this same usb midi keyboard controller to my mac, it works without issue
[01:28] <omenius_> it's mac, it's pretty much has only true reason to exist; to be music making machine
[01:29] <omenius_> don't take this wrong, but imo it's just masochist to use linux for music producing
[01:29] <omenius_> at least if you are not pioneer
[01:30] <omenius_> *only = only one
[01:30] <wizwizwizwiz> i'm a pioneer
[01:30] <wizwizwizwiz> we've seen twice now that without steve jobs apple isn't managed well
[01:30] <swampfox1> exit
[01:31] <omenius_> alright, cool. What I would suggest is to find one working midi card for your pc and plug your midi devices to it
[01:31] <omenius_> there is some kind of midi sound card inside that machine
[01:31] <omenius_> If it has usb
[01:32] <wizwizwizwiz> it has usb, but that's all
[01:32] <wizwizwizwiz> i found a forum post saying to disable usb autosuspend and reboot... here goes nothing!
[01:33] <omenius_> good luck
[01:38] <Oderus> anyone good at qml?? I'm trying to modify the breeze splash from having a black color rectangle background to a full screen image instead. here's the file. Wondering what changes I need to make at the top to achieve this? I'm clueless heh. https://paste.ubuntu.com/24468312/  last time i will ask then i am giving up ;p
[01:52] <trism> Oderus: it looks like you can just replace the outer-most Rectangle with Image and replace the first color: line with source: and the path to your image, it seems to work in the qmlviewer anyway
[01:54] <Oderus> trism: thank you! i will try this !
[02:02] <totll> Having java crash, no idea why. Here is part of what it output: https://pastebin.com/0BZWhtx2
[02:06] <johnathon> kek
[02:08] <Ubuntu-BR> There is some way to Disable Journaling file system in FSTAB file? or only by mount Read-Only and do "tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/sda1" ?
[02:11] <MrCrackPotBuilde> completely off topic but for the life of me i can't remember the name of text art you can insert into code things like header etc
[02:11] <MrCrackPotBuilde> anyone know what its calledorwhere i can find it?
[02:15] <totll> MrCrackPotBuilde: ascii art?
[02:17] <MrCrackPotBuilde> totll: yes but i can only find images
[02:26] <guest_Newbie> Howdy...
[02:27] <guest_Newbie> Could someone help me get a font installed? It is in the Ubuntu Studio but not Ubuntu Desktop... Please and thanks in advance.
[02:34] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, hubby is too tired. ill take a look at the downloaded file and see what we c\an do. his computer isn't booting to it, and he would like to look for missing files
[02:38] <guest_Newbie>  Machine says to restart...
[02:38] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Well, if files not found, there is the option to boot the liveUSB, install extundelete, mount the install and see what undelete can do for us .
[02:42] <chalcedony> ok
[02:42] <chalcedony> yes i think he wants to do that
[02:42] <chalcedony> i just have to make sure i got a good download
[02:42] <chalcedony> its a deb not a windows file
[02:42] <havoc_hive> hello world
[02:43] <compdoc> goto havoc_hive
[02:43] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: " good download " is in reference to the .iso file ?
[02:46] <fishcooker> i try to install "$ sudo apt search linux-generic-lts-trusty", but i couldn't find the kernel 3.13.0.117.127 listed on the menu.lst http://vpaste.net/kKRu9
[02:47] <Bashing-om> !info linux-generic-lts-trusty trusty
[02:48] <jkjom> i heard rhythmox can play music via dlna but it doesn't work
[02:48] <jkjom> do i need open ports or something
[02:48] <jkjom> in android it works
[02:49] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: fishcooker What is the goal here . the package is there .
[02:49] <fermulator> USN update cron script is not running, USN information may be out of date. -- get that message in Landscape, anyone know it? (googling gives me notta)
[02:49] <fermulator> whenever i try to do anything software/pkg related to the registered clients
[02:50] <fishcooker> i want to install the package that require those kernel version 3.13.0.117.127
[02:50] <fishcooker> Bashing-om:
[02:50] <Bashing-om> !hwe | fishcooker
[02:51] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: docs ^^ there to make it happen .
[02:51] <fermulator> also some other links bork with this: OOPS ID: OOPS-2e915ab6fb999a65b68ebf964b1da1a8
[02:53] <fishcooker> thanks Bashing-om
[03:10] <wcs> het
[03:57] <FlameStrike_> Can anyone here help me with an error I'm getting? I've installed Kubuntu on a laptop, and I keep getting a "select proper Boot device" message when I try to start the machine.
[04:01] <Jordan_U> FlameStrike_: Is this a UEFI or BIOS based machine?
[04:01] <FlameStrike_> UEFI, I believe
[04:05] <ScioMin> FlameStrike_, does it have only one HD right? If not you might want to enter BIOS settings during boot and select the disk to boot.
[04:05] <ScioMin> by HD I meant storage disc/ssd.
[04:06] <FlameStrike_> Yes, it only has the one HD, and I believe it is selected as the boot device.
[04:07] <FlameStrike_> Confirmed, the HDD is selected as the primary boot device
[04:16] <rehemiau> Hello, my Internet friends! I need a little assistance with wayland on 17.04. I can't find wayland package in the official repositories. Does anyone have an idea why would that be?
[04:19] <frappr> whoami
[04:21] <ScioMin> FlameStrike_, humm. Did you installed Kubuntu using USB pendrive? If so, you might want to check in BIOS if you can boot the pendrive in BIOS or UFEI mode. I suggest booting the USB pendrive using UFEI. I know this because I had that problem.
[04:22] <ScioMin> FlameStrike_, insert pendrive with Kubuntu installation in USB, reboot notebook, enter bios. Check if you can boot USB pendrive in different modes: UFEI, BIOS...
[04:22] <FlameStrike_> I installed from a USB drive, yes, and the machine will not even regocnize the USB drive when I disable UEFI
[04:23] <SebaMendoza201x> Hi i can't dual boot ubuntu with windows 10
[04:23] <ScioMin> humm.. well then my limited knowledge ends here. I had to reinstall Lubuntu on my PC because the first installation was done wiht USB pendrive booted as BIOS instead of UFEI.
[04:23] <ScioMin> SebaMendoza201x, easiest route is install Windows first then ubuntu.
[04:24] <orlock> Hmm. Can anybody reccomend a good antivirus?
[04:24] <SebaMendoza201x> i have legacy bios and i have windows 10 installed, when i use the installer
[04:24] <SebaMendoza201x> its shows no os installed
[04:24] <ScioMin> orlock, I don't use anti virus even on windows but when I did in the past I used avast.
[04:25] <ScioMin> orlock, make sure you uncheck all the crapware during installation. I also disable everything my file scanner (no web, e-mail, firewall etc...)
[04:25] <SebaMendoza201x> anybody knows my issue? ubuntu dont detect my windows 10
[04:25] <orlock> ScioMin: Well, remember that when somebody is asking for 1.5 bitcoin to get your files back!
[04:25] <orlock> ScioMin: i was actually specifically after something for linux, as clamav's crap
[04:26] <ScioMin> SebaMendoza201x, have you tried os-prober ?
[04:26] <orlock> But anything worthwhile is probably stupidly expensive
[04:26] <SebaMendoza201x> no
[04:26] <SebaMendoza201x> i will try it
[04:26] <ScioMin> orlock, 7 years have passed without a virus. They probably don't want my files then :(
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | orlock
[04:26] <orlock> Oh, no, they don't want your files.
[04:27] <orlock> They want your money
[04:27] <ScioMin> i know where I click :)
[04:27] <orlock> lotuspsychje: Sorry, i should have prefaced the question with "functional"
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> orlock: whats not functional on clamav?
[04:27] <orlock> ScioMin: Anyway - no virus _that you know of_ ;)
[04:27] <SebaMendpza201x> im booting ubuntu
[04:27] <FlameStrike_> ScioMin, I think you helped anyway. I disable UEFI to double check, and the machine finally booted without a flash drive. Thanks.
[04:28] <ScioMin> orlock, like I said, 7 years
[04:28] <SebaMendpza201x> what command i need to try with os-parted¡
[04:28] <SebaMendpza201x> ¡
[04:28] <ScioMin> FlameStrike_, yay!
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> orlock: also try: rkhunter,lynis,snort
[04:29] <orlock> lotuspsychje:  i've been pointingan up to date copy of clam at a crypto locker dll, and it failes to detect it
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> orlock: why is a dll a danger on ubuntu?
[04:30] <orlock> I'm just after something that will tell me a file is a virus, not a filesystem/host integrity monitor/intrusion detector
[04:30] <SebaMendpza201x> how i use os-parted?
[04:30] <SebaMendpza201x> or what is the command
[04:30] <SebaMendpza201x> to show os?
[04:30] <ScioMin> SebaMendpza201x, i suggest using os-prober instead. I'm trying to find a good link about it.
[04:31] <orlock> lotuspsychje: It's not?
[04:31] <SebaMendpza201x> Sciomin its show /dev/sda1:Windows 10:Windows:chain
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> orlock: ubuntu does not work the same as windows, you can just poison system with a dll..
[04:32] <Zer0Day> what tool i can use to copy my own OS as a backup for all installed web dev tools
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> orlock: also if you think you found a new virus, undetected email it to clamav's database?
[04:32] <orlock> lotuspsychje: But i'll use a non-target OS to investigate potentially dodgy software because it's the smart thing to do
[04:32] <ScioMin> SebaMendpza201x, nice so it detected your windows. Perhaps try "sudo update-grub" the nreboot. Check if there are other options in your grub now.
[04:33] <ScioMin> SebaMendpza201x, I must warn you I'm not very good with grub/multiboot stuff.
[04:33] <orlock> Zer0Day: That would depend on exactly how they are installed - but usually tar is a pretty good bet
[04:33] <SebaMendpza201x> i get this error with sudo update-grub
[04:33] <SebaMendpza201x> error: no se pudo obtener la ruta canonica de aufs
[04:33] <ScioMin> cannot obtain canonical rout of aufs....
[04:34] <ScioMin> route*
[04:34] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: doing it from a live usb?
[04:34] <SebaMendpza201x> yes eric
[04:34] <ScioMin> well then I can't help you sorry
[04:34] <Zer0Day> orlock: i mean to copy my own OS in bootable USB so that all my downloaded tool terminal wont delete if anything wrong happens
[04:34] <SebaMendpza201x> thanks anyway Sciomin :D
[04:34] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: you need to chroot
[04:34] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you
[04:34] <Zer0Day> SebaMendpza201x:  maybe its sudo apt-get --update grub
[04:34] <EriC^^> what's the problem btw?
[04:34] <EriC^^> ^ no
[04:34] <SebaMendpza201x> i can't dual boot ubuntu with windows 10
[04:35] <SebaMendpza201x> its shows
[04:35] <SebaMendpza201x> no os installed
[04:35] <Zer0Day> SebaMendpza201x: are u using virtual machine?
[04:35] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: you get grub but no windows?
[04:35] <SebaMendpza201x> im using my pc, i have legacy bios
[04:35] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: answer plz
[04:35] <SebaMendpza201x> i don't understand eric, sorry
[04:36] <alive876__> hi, i am trying to load ubuntu into vmware. i downloaded a zip file with a lot of  .vmdk files, but vm workstation player seems to require an iso file,  is that true thanks
[04:36] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: what do you mean by "no os installed" ?
[04:36] <SebaMendpza201x> i have windows installed but the ubuntu installer doesn't show anything
[04:36] <Zer0Day> alive876__: it needs to be booted by a usb using ISO file
[04:36] <orlock> i found this, has a ncie list
[04:36] <orlock> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[04:36] <Zer0Day> alive876__: so that it may works
[04:36] <EriC^^> alive876__: in virtualbox for me .vmdk are hard disk files. they load fine but you need to set them as the hard disk
[04:37] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: so you haven't installed ubuntu yet?
[04:37] <SebaMendpza201x> no, i havtn't installed ubuntu
[04:37] <jasonheh> how can I modify a ubuntu package to exclude a dependency?
[04:37] <Zer0Day> SebaMendpza201x:  i think  u need to boot something first
[04:38] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you
[04:38] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: also type "ls /sys/firmware/efi" and tell me what you see
[04:38] <orlock> jasonheh:  edit the source rules to exclude it and rebuild it?
[04:39] <orlock> jasonheh: But it probably needs it for a reason
[04:39] <orlock> jasonheh: or you can try installing it with --nodeps and --force
[04:39] <orlock> That might be a yum/rpm thing though
[04:40] <jasonheh> yeah I did that and it works, but it leaves things in conflict, and won't let me apt-get install anything else until I fix it
[04:40] <orlock> yeah, i forgot to say
[04:40] <SebaMendpza201x> Eric i get getaddrinfo: name or service not known
[04:40] <orlock> "and enjoy your broken packaging system"
[04:40] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: do you have internet on the pc?
[04:41] <orlock> How about you just install the dependency?
[04:41] <SebaMendpza201x> you right i dont connected my pc
[04:41] <SebaMendpza201x> hold me a seconds
[04:41] <SebaMendpza201x> termbin.com/9sds
[04:42] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you
[04:42] <EriC^^> (make it -ls instead of -l)
[04:42] <Zer0Day> SebaMendpza201x: what version of ubuntu are u trying to install ?
[04:43] <SebaMendpza201x> 17.04
[04:43] <selsper> off on a tangent over here, are there any documentaries or such on ubuntu?
[04:43] <SebaMendpza201x> termbin.com/ueg9
[04:43] <jasonheh> I can't install the dependency, and it's really not a true dependency.
[04:43] <jasonheh> It should be optional
[04:44] <jasonheh> it enables a certain feature that isn't available on my hardware but I don't need
[04:44] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: ok, it can't see the partition type or partitions in the 500gb disk
[04:44] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: that's really odd
[04:44] <Zer0Day> jasonheh: u gotta have to update and upgrade
[04:44] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: try "dmesg | grep -C10 sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:45] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: try "dmesg | grep -C10 sda | nc termbin.com 9999"
[04:45] <SebaMendpza201x> termbin.com/i386
[04:45] <EriC^^> jasonheh: edit /var/lib/dpkg/status if you want, at your own risk
[04:46] <jasonheh> I like the sound of this solution
[04:46] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: wow nice link you got there what are the odds
[04:47] <SebaMendpza201x> yes hahaha i386
[04:48] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:48] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: is there maybe an option in the bios for the hdd you could change? like ahci?
[04:50] <SebaMendpza201x> no, i checked
[04:51] <jushur> Morning ppls, is there any place i can view a timestamped list of packages that has been updated recently? not for my local computer, but for the apt repo.
[04:51] <SebaMendpza201x> EriC^^ termbin.com/nfjd
[04:52] <EriC^^> looks clean
[04:52] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: odd, try sudo partprobe /dev/sda
[04:53] <SebaMendpza201x> error (in spanish) ¡No se puede hacer una particion fuera del disco!
[04:53] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: are you sure the disk has windows?
[04:53] <jasonheh> EriC^^, yay it works thanks
[04:53] <SebaMendpza201x> yes
[04:54] <EriC^^> jasonheh: no problem
[04:55] <masber> good afternoon all,
[04:55] <SebaMendpza201x> good night here in chile! its 2:02 am
[04:55] <masber> my ubuntu server has 2 ips assigned to same nic
[04:55] <masber> I am trying to delete one of the IPs running "ip addr del 129.94.72.52/32 dev ens160" but it says RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[04:55] <masber> any idea?
[04:56] <Ben64> masber: what is the output of "ip addr"
[04:57] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: try to ask in ##linux , i'll brb in a few mins as well
[04:57] <SebaMendpza201x> ok thanks!!!
[04:57] <SebaMendpza201x> <3
[04:57] <EriC^^> SebaMendpza201x: show them the parted -l paste
[04:57] <masber> Ben64, RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[04:57] <EriC^^> http://termbin.com/ueg9
[04:57] <Ben64> masber: ...
[05:00] <orlock> masber: Ask the UNSW sysadmins for help
[05:00] <orlock> masber: TAKE BEER.
[05:01] <masber> orlock, UNSW?
[05:03] <gr33n7007h> masber: are you using sudo?
[05:03] <masber> gryes
[05:03] <masber> gr33n7007h, yes
[05:03] <orlock> masber: They own the IP block you are using
[05:04] <gr33n7007h> masber: the try adding them again then deleting
[05:04] <orlock> masber: SO i kind of assumed you would be a student or staffer there. Obviously not
[05:04] <gr33n7007h> *then
[05:04] <orlock> masber: How did you put them in? NetworkManager?
[05:04] <masber> orlock, yeah well this is an issue with linux, nothing to do with networking
[05:05] <orlock> masber: How did you get the IP's in there?
[05:05] <Ben64> you don't have 129.94.72.52 assigned, so of course you can't remove it
[05:06] <masber> Ben64, I had it before but I just was confused about that message
[05:06] <Ben64> that message is because you don't have that address assigned
[05:08] <orlock> playing with openstack?
[05:09] <orlock> ahh apache mesos
[05:09] <orlock> masber: generally, it's not a good idea to use publically assigned IP's that belong to other people - stuff will break and not work in different ways
[05:15] <mgor> hmm
[05:22] <SebaMendoza201x> so i can't do anything
[05:22] <SebaMendoza201x> its weird
[05:35] <vex8ion> Hello
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> vex8ion: welcome, how can we help you?
[05:35] <thatlizdude> I can't launch anything on my Ubuntu
[05:35] <thatlizdude> it's messed up
[05:36] <thatlizdude> should I reinstall?
[05:36] <thatlizdude> can I debug?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> !details | thatlizdude
[05:36] <vex8ion> Wondering if both Windows and Ubuntu can be installed on the same drive?
[05:37] <thatlizdude> that's it really, I can't do a lot
[05:37] <thatlizdude> I'm only running discord server
[05:37] <thatlizdude> which seemed to have lost connection
[05:37] <thatlizdude> so I opened my laptop to see it messed up like this
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | vex8ion
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: plz give us some relevant details, ubuntu version? what did you do to bork your system?
[05:38] <thatlizdude> 16.04.2 lts
[05:39] <thatlizdude> what do you mean bork?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: you say you cant launch anything? what did you do? what happens exactly? define 'anything'?
[05:40] <thatlizdude> I click it, it freezes for 8 seconds then nothing happens
[05:40] <thatlizdude> terminal works
[05:41] <thatlizdude> it works now...
[05:41] <thatlizdude> as soon as the discord server ended, it started working
[05:43] <vex8ion> lotuspsychje: I'm new to the chat... What does " !dualboot | " mean?
[05:44] <hateball> vex8ion: It means read the links provided by ubottu
[05:44] <vex8ion> Ah. Thank you.
[05:44] <hateball> vex8ion: Short answer Yes. Install Windows first, then the Ubuntu installer will offer to install alongside Windows once you boot that up.
[05:46] <vex8ion> hateball: Thanks that gives me direction along with the link to the help page.
[05:48] <awesomess3> yo. When I click a link to http://imgur.com and I'm signed onto imgur.com through https:// are my session-login cookies available to anyone that can see the electrons flying out of my ass?
[05:48] <knofte> 42.
[05:49] <knofte> awesomess3: the answer is 42.
[05:49] <awesomess3> knofte: I'm 42% sure you're full of shit.
[05:49] <knofte> awesomess3: and 58% full of carbon.
[05:50] <awesomess3> and 0% full of being on topic in this channel
[05:51] <knofte> I thought your question wne a bit too far with the last 6 words though, hence the seriousness in the answer.
[05:52] <awesomess3> Then answer the first sentence, which happens to be a fragment with no tail that defines any meaning whatsoever.
[05:54] <awesomess3> So...the question is, how can you answer something that defines no meaning?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !language | awesomess3
[06:00] <awesomess3> nobody cares about me!
[06:00] <awesomess3> I'm gonna marry nobody
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> awesomess3: thats not relevant for this channel
[06:13] <amazingalex224_> how come when i set the mariadb root password it does not ask for it when i use mysql command, and phpmyadmin wont let me login with it , i used mysql_secure_installation
[06:14] <amazingalex224_> t
[06:15] <amazingalex224_> h
[06:15] <amazingalex224_> hi
[06:16] <awesomess3> hey alex
[06:16] <Voron> HI
[06:16] <amazingalex224_> oops
[06:16] <amazingalex224_> sorry for spam
[06:16] <awesomess3> phpmyadmin logs into the mysql user database. I don't know I don't care about your stupid problem.
[06:17] <amazingalex224_> cant phpmyadmin use mariadb?
[06:17] <awesomess3> because obviously this channel doesn't care about me when nobody else needs to be on topic!
[06:17] <awesomess3> Hmmm
[06:17] <awesomess3> I thought you said you were using mysql?
[06:17] <amazingalex224_> mariadb
[06:17] <awesomess3> What in the hell is mariadb?
[06:18] <amazingalex224_> a mysql fork
[06:18] <awesomess3> A database in mysql?
[06:18] <awesomess3> OOoooooOOoooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh.
[06:18] <amazingalex224_> it has same mysql commands
[06:18] <amazingalex224_> https://mariadb.com/
[06:18] <awesomess3> Hm.
[06:18] <awesomess3> Try restarting the mysql database.
[06:18] <awesomess3> I mean the daemon/server.
[06:19] <amazingalex224_> i did
[06:19] <awesomess3> Hmmm
[06:20] <awesomess3> Maybe try going to /etc/mariadb/*.conf and see that maybe localhost doesn't need a password to access root on the server.
[06:20] <awesomess3> But then again that sounds like 4% probable.
[06:20] <amazingalex224_> it saves in /etc/mysql
[06:21] <awesomess3> k
[06:21] <amazingalex224_> its basicly mysql with improved security and is open source
[06:21] <awesomess3> yeah logging in without passwords and needing no password sounds reeeeeeal secure
[06:21] <awesomess3> OooooOoh
[06:22] <awesomess3> shit omg I don't care about this channel enough to really read your question
[06:22] <awesomess3> shoot
[06:22] <awesomess3> omg I swore
[06:22] <awesomess3> I'm k-lined
[06:22] <orlock> awesomess3: Well, if everything is unencrypted, then it can be more so than using a password
[06:22] <orlock> awesomess3: Depends on your definition of "security"
[06:23] <orlock> awesomess3: Not using a password may prevent other people knowing the password you used
[06:23] <awesomess3> orlock: security is my ex-girlfriend not getting my dick picks that I upload to a private album on imgur
[06:23] <awesomess3> *pics
[06:23] <knofte> amazingalex224_: if you mean you use 'mysql' from commandline without need of using password, it's probably becuase of the debian.cnf in /etc/mysql/ folder.
[06:23] <knofte> this is quite normal.
[06:23] <knofte> That however does not affect the need of password when using mysqladmin/phpadmin etc.
[06:24] <awesomess3> orlock: oh. you're talking about the mariadb mysql, I thought you were referring to my original channel post when I entered.
[06:24] <orlock> awesomess3: actually, i was just talking about in general
[06:24] <amazingalex224_> any passwword i set with mysql_secure_installation dosent let me login to phpmyadmin tho
[06:24] <orlock> awesomess3: i was specifically thinking of FTP
[06:25] <awesomess3> orlock: why the flipekodoshu are you talking about FTP when we're talking about a mysql server fork password issue?
[06:25] <amazingalex224_> and what does this mean in phpmyadmin
[06:25] <amazingalex224_>  Connection for controluser as defined in your configuration failed.
[06:25] <orlock>  <awesomess3> yeah logging in without passwords and needing no password sounds reeeeeeal secure
[06:26] <amazingalex224_> lol as ive told its suppose to be
[06:26] <amazingalex224_> and ive been told*
[06:26] <orlock> Anyway,  mariadb/mysql permissions grants often involve a hostmask component
[06:26] <orlock> So accessing the server via a local socket is not the same as accessing it via IP, etc etc
[06:27] <awesomess3> ok I'm done with this channel, dax just ban everyone already including yourself. Radafeckualifumaku this stupid channel.
[06:27] <awesomess3> YABADABADUUuuUuuUuu
[06:29] <Volund> Ughhhhhhh this permissions setup is giving me a headache and #samba is utterly silent at this hour.
[06:29] <Volund> maybe I should try NFS again
[06:30] <awesomess3> We should just got back to MS-DOS, we've got like 2GB+ of RAM and that shabudakulamisosa-abaku banana flabber-boos only requires at most 680K!
[06:30] <OlofL> Gnome always opens windows in upper top left corner. How can I change this behaviour to remember where it was last opened?
[06:31] <awesomess3> OlofL: you want to configure its window manager. Open up a terminal and try these:  `apropos gnome`   `apropos manager`   `apropos settings`
[06:32] <awesomess3> I'm gonna do it with you because I have XFCE4 and I just want to see what happens.
[06:34] <awesomess3> I think I learnded!
[06:35] <orlock> amazingalex224_:  https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/show-grants/
[06:36] <orlock> awesomess3: If you put dick picks on imgur you deserve whatever you get?
[06:36] <orlock> Thats probably a lesson we can all learn from
[06:37] <amazingalex224_> i solved it
[06:38] <orlock> amazingalex224_: Enlighten us??
[06:38] <awesomess3>  /usr/bin/source-highlight-settings  And lo-and-behold I did learn something! This program has the worst man-page, I don't know if it's some kind of 20-question-console program or runs a pretty GUI, all I know is that it helps write to ~/.source-highlight/ And we wonder why North Korean experts can't create nuclear weapons, it's because of the quasay-esquibar-eequana-dooshor-opay stupid manuals they have to work with..can you
[06:38] <awesomess3> believe these manual authors?
[06:38] <OlofL> awesomess3: how do I do that in gui?
[06:39] <awesomess3> OlofL: you do not know how to open a GUI terminal and type commands in it?
[06:40] <ducasse> OlofL: ignore that. try installing gnome-tweak-tool and see if that has settings for what you're after.
[06:44] <awesomess3> yeah ignore the helper! Ignore it all! If you ever need help with finding a tool that you need that's probably already on your computer, open your irc client immediately, come to #ubuntu on Freenode, and go like:   ducasse: How do I add a custom keyboard shortcut to Gnome that opens my favorite GUI text editor?     And thank goodness for that because ducasse is going to be there for you 24/7! That's why he's here! for you alex! He
[06:44] <awesomess3> wants your soul.
[06:44] <OlofL> ducasse: it didnt
[06:45] <awesomess3> oh whoops you're not alex
[06:45] <awesomess3> I got amazingalex224_ on my mind!
[06:47] <ducasse> awesomess3: if you can't stay on topic you are more than welcome to take your ranting elsewhere. #ubuntu-offtopic, for instance.
[06:47] <jackhum> hello fellas , can anyone tell me if there is shortcut to see all the windows from all the workspaces? super+w shows all windows of only one workspace. i want to see from all the workspace thanks
[06:48] <Volund> @_@
[06:48] <acetakwas> Hello
[06:48] <Volund> Uuuuuuggh, I am having such a terrible time grokking how this works...
[06:48] <acetakwas> Is there to temporarily zoom into my system's font?
[06:48] <acetakwas> I am temporarily using a monitor with a very high resolution.
[06:49] <ccat> jackhum: how about super-Duper+w :D
[06:49] <acetakwas> I like the current size of my font on my laptop screen, but I'd like to make it larger on the connected monitor without having to reset my system's font size.
[06:50] <awesomess3> ranting? can't stay on topic? Who are you ducasse? Are you a vulture come to loot the bodies of our fallen warriors? Regardless, this is no place to make a name for yourself. The mountain is ours to protect. It is only a matter of time before Hell's legions are routed.
[06:52] <awesomess3> jackhum: how about a shortcut that deletes all of your workspaces forcing all windows to come to one?
[06:52] <jackhum> awesomess3, be serious dude
[06:53] <jackhum> ccat, why would you hang out on this channel , go get your milk , and jump outside of  the window
[06:53] <ducasse> acetakwas: see this article, especially what it says about multiple displays and scaling - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI
[06:53] <jackhum> awesomess3, all i want is to see all my windows , super+w shows me windows of one workspace only
[06:53] <awesomess3> jackhum: I am being serious! DELETE them! DESTRRRRRRoy those workspaces. REAP the reward of having all of your windows in just one workspace :D
[06:53] <awesomess3> Ok fine
[06:53] <awesomess3> I think there is a way in KDE
[06:54] <ccat> jackhum: me indoor model, and not milk time just yet
[06:54] <awesomess3> acetakwas: there are programs to zoom parts of the screen that follow your mouse.
[06:54] <jackhum> awesomess3, so , why would i do that , you are just killing a feature of ubuntu .
[06:54] <awesomess3> jackhum: There is Kubuntu you know.
[06:55] <jackhum> should i attempt this ?
[06:55] <jackhum> https://askubuntu.com/questions/179951/how-do-i-make-superw-show-open-windows-from-all-workspaces
[06:55] <jackhum> yeah, i know , but i wont install it
[06:55] <jackhum> i want to know if there is a way i can do it on my ubuntu 16.04
[06:58] <acetakwas> awesomess3::  Thanks
[07:01] <awesomess3> jackhum: if you can't there might be a way to change your window manager that allows the ability to move all of your windows to say, the first or current workspace. However, what if you want those windows back on those other workspaces?
[07:02] <ducasse> jackhum: there are other tools you could use, i expect rofi will work with unity but never tested
[07:07] <jeff_h> I've got a directory with drwxrws--- but files created inside it are getting -rw-r--r--
[07:07] <ccat> jackhum: wasn't that supposed to be fixed long ago now (2013), per that url?
[07:07] <jeff_h> can anyone tell me why that would be, and how to get them to inherit permissions from the containing directory?
[07:07] <ikonia> jeff_h: look at umask
[07:08] <jeff_h> the setgid is not for this purpose?
[07:08] <ikonia> jeff_h: it can be, but first look at umask
[07:14] <jeff_h> @ikonia — sounds interesting, thanks! I am a little confused though — is the setgid bit just to give new files the same group ownership, and has nothing to do with RWX permissions?
[07:15] <Volund> phew
[07:15] <Volund> a half-hour later, I have solved the problem by changing all kinds of UID and GIDs around so they match up on both machines
[07:15] <Volund> at least the file sharing works now. I hope logging in to XFCE still does, oi.
[07:16]  * Volund did all the necessary chown futzery so
[07:16] <ikonia> jeff_h: at a really basic level, you're right, but if you look into umask/setuid/setguid as seperate things and try to understand the implications each, I think you'll answer your own question better
[07:27] <jeff_h> my directory already has a umask of 0002, yet files are getting 644
[07:28] <jeff_h> so I guess umask determines what's *allowed* to be set, but doesn't force the loosest permission
[07:32] <marvin3> is there a shell program that will launch another program and always return 0?
[07:32] <marvin3> I want to do something like this: ignoreerrors prog && prog2
[07:39] <maybe> how to install gnome in Ubuntu
[07:40] <akik> maybe: on 17.04, i installed the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package
[07:43] <ducasse> marvin3: do you need the 0 exit value? otherwise just use ;
[07:46] <Younder> From several years ago I remember SLI and CROSSX didn't work. Is that still true?
[07:49] <marvin3> I don't. yeah ; is better than what I  wanted to do
[07:50] <ducasse> Younder: afaik sli works at least, but it might be gpu/driver-dependent.
[07:52] <Younder> ducasse, Yes, altso the games need to be written to take advantage of it. A hit and miss affair even on Windows. Perhaps in Steam.
[07:54] <ducasse> Younder: games i haven't got the faintest idea about. there are some linux gaming channels on freenode you could try.
[08:05] <fcastillo> hey guys, just wondering if for the next release we can expect gnome-shell to have an Ubuntu theme, with the traditional colors. I just checked Gnome Ubuntu for the first time and it comes pretty vanilla. I wouldn't be able to tell that it was Ubuntu based unless I looked for it
[08:05] <ducasse> fcastillo: nobody knows yet, i think
[08:06] <fcastillo> ducasse: yeah... I thought it would be too early to ask, but did it anyway, just in case :)
[08:07] <ducasse> it is, and you're not the only one to do it :)
[08:08] <fcastillo> I tried googling just in case. I did find tons of user-based themes though
[08:09] <ducasse> the only thing that has been said afaik is that ubuntu will provide "a clean experience, close to upstream" whatever that means.
[08:10] <h3ll0w0rld> ??
[08:11] <fcastillo> i don't really like the "close to upstream" experience, but I can't complain. Ubuntu has giving me so many greats years that I support whatever decision they make. After all there's always a big community out there with user-themes and extension
[08:12] <fcastillo> at least, I hope they still hold the wallpaper contest
[08:13] <ducasse> that might have been more of a reference to trying to cut down on the ubuntu patches to gnome code, not necessarily to the look/feel. it's too early to say.
[08:50] <kristhian> clear
[08:50] <kristhian> sorry
[09:03] <JuPaname> hiii
[09:04] <Guest38958> hola
[09:04] <Guest38958> hello
[09:05] <Guest38958> saludos
[09:05] <Guest38958> alguna cchica po aqui
[09:08] <adnauseam> gooday
[09:08] <adnauseam> why is the neovim package offered by ubuntu compiled without python ?
[09:27] <readytogo> I heard there is free shells giveaway in ##thunix, only for 30 days
[09:48] <gredjok> if I press alt+f2 my computers screen turns black. What is it called?
[09:48] <gredjok> if I press such key combination and leave my computer download data for 15 hours, next time I press any key to turn the screen on, it will still remain blank (also, black). this has happened twice on a new notebook bought 6 months ago
[09:49] <gredjok> this is a problem, because I have to unplug and restart the system
[09:49] <gredjok> ubuntu 17.04 64 bits
[09:57] <linuxthefish> gredjok do you mean CTRL + ALT + F2?
[09:57] <linuxthefish> does it show a terminal prompt?
[09:57] <linuxthefish> well, a login prompt
[10:02] <kbob> gredjok: next time go back with Ctrl + Alt + F7
[10:19] <Qwertie> Would this classify as a critical bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1686329
[10:20] <slima> Hello, I have problem with preseed ubuntu 14.04/16.04 When I deploy prseeded instalations without DHCP, installator ask for domain name, But field is already fill with domain, my config is: d-i netcfg/get_domain string <%= @host.domain %>
[10:20] <slima> how to prevent this question?
[10:22] <PragueBob>  /msg nickserv register Cl0s3tT3ch13 me@robertmorrison.cz
[10:24] <PragueBob>  /msg nickserv register Cl0s3tT3ch13 me@robertmorrison.cz
[10:25] <blackflow> PragueBob: you better change that now
[10:27] <gredjok> linuxthefish, kbob no, i mean function keys , o sorry guys, I mean fn+f2
[10:27] <gredjok> i have togo to the bakery :(
[10:29] <linuxthefish> gredjok what function is marked on your F2 key?
[11:03] <gredjok> linuxthefish, on the f2 key I can read "lcd"
[11:05] <OlofL> I have encrypted home folder in setup. I skipped setup the passphrase on first login.. now how do I rerun that action? ubuntu gnome 1704
[11:07] <zaganator> salve volevo inserire un'app che mi potesse dare la possibilità di fare una ricerca veloce tra le applicazioni tramite la pressione di ctrl+space
 so che già esiste una applicazione simile ma non ne ricordo più il nome
[11:07] <jushur> gredjok: fn+f2 is acpi based lock+blank screen request right?
[11:07] <zaganator> sorry
[11:08] <gredjok> jushur, blank request, although there is no lock in my case, I dont know if it is acpi based
[11:09] <zaganator> ok someone can indicate me an app that is able to search in the pc
[11:10] <gurry_zoo> Hi Everyone
[11:10] <jushur> gredjok: just use superkey+l to lock instead? as i bet it acpi that messes up.
[11:10] <FrogCast> how do I update xkb after I changed the contents of one of the symbol files?
[11:10] <FrogCast> without having to restart?
[11:11] <gurry_zoo> I did an update-upgrade and at some point it asked where to put grub I guess... I selected sda1 and now it doesn't bııt
[11:11] <jushur> gredjok: note that that actually locks the login tho
[11:11] <gurry_zoo> I tried fixing grub with the things on the net a lot of things
[11:11] <gredjok> jushur, ok... could it be that the upgrade to 17.04 triggered this inconsistency?
[11:12] <gurry_zoo> Any help to recover will be gratly appreciated
[11:14] <jushur> gredjok: yes, if your acpi package is not behaving correctly.
[11:14] <hateball> !fixgrub | gurry_zoo
[11:14] <hateball> gurry_zoo: ignore that it says windows, just read the docs
[11:15] <gurry_zoo> I have ubuntu only
[11:15] <gurry_zoo> No other Windows or Linux at all
[11:15] <hateball> Or you can ignore what I said and don't read the docs. It's a free world
[11:17] <gurry_zoo> hateball I did many things like changing the flag to bios_boot or something and then I changed the flag to boot with gparted which caused the change of file system
[11:18] <gurry_zoo> hateball I'm lost I guess
[11:19] <ioria> gurry_zoo, if you can't access from recovery, you need a livecd
[11:20] <gurry_zoo> ioria at the moment I'm writing from the live cd
[11:20] <ioria> gurry_zoo, ok, paste  sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[11:20] <hateball> This is literally step 1 of the documentation I linked you to
[11:20] <hateball> But ok
[11:23] <gurry_zoo> ioria it said I don't have pastebinit and I tried to install it in the livecd environment but it hung at the moment
[11:23] <gurry_zoo> 1      1049kB  215MB   214MB   ext2
[11:23] <gurry_zoo> 2      215MB   4380MB  4165MB  linux-swap(v1)
[11:23] <gurry_zoo> 3      4380MB  40.1GB  35.7GB  ext4
[11:24] <ioria> gurry_zoo, wait ...
[11:24] <ioria> gurry_zoo,   sudo parted -l |  nc termbin.com 9999
[11:25] <ioria> gurry_zoo,   do you use encryption ?
[11:25] <gurry_zoo> http://termbin.com/znaf
[11:25] <gurry_zoo> ioria No, I don't
[11:25] <ioria> gurry_zoo,   stange table
[11:26] <ioria> gurry_zoo,   using gpt without efi partition, with an ext2 partition
[11:26] <gurry_zoo> ioria a warning message like this appears when I put parted:  Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.
[11:27] <ioria> gurry_zoo,   lsblk |  nc termbin.com 9999
[11:28] <gredjok> i may have found my issue: https://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/ end of the screen
[11:28] <gurry_zoo> http://termbin.com/o3su
[11:30] <gredjok> how do I find what version of sfce I own?
[11:30] <gredjok> xfce power manager I mean
[11:31] <ioria> gurry_zoo,   do you use uefi ?
[11:31] <gurry_zoo> ioria No, I don't
[11:32] <EriC^^> gurry_zoo: has it ever booted?
[11:33] <gurry_zoo> EriC^^ it was a working system. I did an update-upgrade and at some point it asked for location to grub and things messed up then
[11:33] <ioria> gurry_zoo,   sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt   and paste ls -R /mnt
[11:33] <ioria> EriC^^, he installed grun on /dev/sda1
[11:33] <ioria> *grub
[11:34] <EriC^^> gurry_zoo: that's odd, cause it's a gpt partition table, but doesn't have a bios_boot partition
[11:34] <EriC^^> ioria: yeah that looks like a /boot partition
[11:34] <ioria> EriC^^,  and maybe did a lot of other thing , that we don't know
[11:34] <gurry_zoo> http://termbin.com/7w0j
[11:35] <ioria> gurry_zoo,   you have a separate /boot
[11:35] <gurry_zoo> ioria Yes
[11:35] <gurry_zoo> http://termbin.com/bpe9
[11:35] <ioria> gurry_zoo,   sudo umount /mnt
[11:37] <gurry_zoo> I did
[11:37] <EriC^^> gurry_zoo: try "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt"
[11:37] <ioria> gurry_zoo,   yes ^ that
[11:37] <EriC^^> gurry_zoo: then "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[11:37] <gurry_zoo> I did ^
[11:37] <EriC^^> gurry_zoo: then sudo chroot /mnt
[11:37] <EriC^^> gurry_zoo: then mount -a
[11:38] <EriC^^> then try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[11:38] <EriC^^> and see what happens
[11:38] <EriC^^> if it's all good run update-grub and try rebooting
[11:38] <Lukker> hello
[11:38] <ioria> EriC^^,  mount -a mounts his /dev/sda1 on /mnt, righ ?
[11:39] <EriC^^> ioria: yeah
[11:39] <ioria> ok, tx
[11:39] <gurry_zoo> grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition
[11:39] <gurry_zoo> grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[11:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:40] <EriC^^> gurry_zoo: ok, i'd delete the swap partition, create a bios_boot and recreate the swap
[11:40] <Lukker> i wonder how to play a dvd on UBuntu desktop16.10
[11:40] <EriC^^> are you down?
[11:40] <gurry_zoo> EriC^^ I'm deleting swap
[11:40] <EriC^^> !dvd | Lukker
[11:40] <Lukker> probably need to install a package to read it
[11:41] <EriC^^> gurry_zoo: ok, use cgdisk if you want to delete and create stuff, it's pretty easy
[11:41] <EriC^^> bios_boot has to be 1MiB and hex code(type) ef02
[11:42] <gurry_zoo> Eric^^ should I unmount before cgdisk?
[11:43] <EriC^^> gurry_zoo: well just the swap
[11:44] <gurry_zoo> Ericc^^ I created 1M ef02
[11:44] <EriC^^> when you want to recreate the swap, you can use mkswap -U <uuid here from fstab> /dev/sdxY to make things easier
[11:44] <gurry_zoo> and wrote
[11:44] <EriC^^> ok make the swap too in the same time
[11:45] <EriC^^> then do partprobe /dev/sda
[11:46] <gurry_zoo> done
[11:46] <EriC^^> grep swap /etc/fstab
[11:47] <gurry_zoo> UUID="d8c89fd4-458a-40d6-89f4-abeeb56c7e83"     none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:47] <EriC^^> and mkswap -U <uuid here> /dev/sdxY   (get the new name from lsblk)
[11:48] <gurry_zoo> Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 3.9 GiB (4163891200 bytes) no label, UUID=d8c89fd4-458a-40d6-89f4-abeeb56c7e83
[11:49] <EriC^^> ok, try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[11:49] <gurry_zoo> Installing for i386-pc platform. Installation finished. No error reported.
[11:49] <EriC^^> ok, update-grub
[11:50] <gurry_zoo> some Found image initrd etc.... and Found memtest86+ image: /memtest86+.bin grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1.  Check your device.map. done
[11:51] <gurry_zoo> sdb is the usb that live cd is on
[11:51] <EriC^^> ok, try rebooting
[11:51] <gurry_zoo> THANKS A LOT I'll come back after reboot
[11:54] <spupy> is there anything like Unity's app launcher menu (the one that pops up when you click the logo), but DE-agnostic?
[11:56] <Lukker> @ubottu thank you.Done!
[11:56] <LordDragon> hey all
[11:56] <LordDragon> im trying to setup an ftp server on ubuntu server
[11:56] <LordDragon> ive got vsftpd running
[11:57] <LordDragon> but every attempt i make to connect to the ftp server results in "connection refused"
[11:57] <LordDragon> sudo ufw status indicates the firewall is NOT active
[11:57] <ppf> is the server running and listening on the right adapter?
[11:57] <ppf> netstat -tulpn
[11:58] <LordDragon> hmm it doesnt even show ANY listening on my ftp port
[11:59] <LordDragon> ok
[11:59] <LordDragon> the server isnt running
[11:59] <LordDragon> lol
[11:59] <LordDragon> i thought it automatically ran
[12:00] <pynki> LordDragon, better to do not run thigns without interaction that maybe a risk if misconfigurted...
[12:01] <LordDragon> pynki: ok. well how do i start vsftpd manually then?
[12:01] <pynki> sudo service vsftpd start - does that work?
[12:01] <gurry_zoo> I'm back connected from the recovered install. Thank you very much EriC^^
[12:01] <pynki> do not knwo the deamon name
[12:02] <LordDragon> it doesnt show any error
[12:02] <gurry_zoo> Thank you very much ioria
[12:02] <LordDragon> but its still not running
[12:02] <ioria> gurry_zoo, glad you made it
[12:02] <ppf> LordDragon: systemctl status vsftpd
[12:02] <EriC^^> gurry_zoo: great, no problem
[12:03] <LordDragon> Apr 28 08:02:01 CamServer systemd[1]: vsftpd.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT
[12:03] <pynki> LordDragon, netstat -tapn
[12:03] <LordDragon> alright
[12:03] <LordDragon> well that explains that
[12:03] <pynki> yeah
[12:03] <ppf> i'm assuming you messed up the config. journalctl -u vsftpd
[12:04] <pynki> LordDragon, replace your config with something minimal and make it run, advance your config from there
[12:04] <gurry_zoo> hateball thank you too
[12:04] <tangarora> test
[12:04] <MustaKrakish> fail
[12:04] <tangarora> :)
[12:05] <MustaKrakish> :P
[12:06] <Zalabaslea> :-(
[12:06] <hateball> gurry_zoo: :)
[12:06] <tangarora> Hi, so I just upgraded to Ubuntu 17... and no my Bose SoundLink Mini will not show up in the sound settings even though its connected in bluetooth. Can you believe it?
[12:07] <tangarora> I was Ok B4
[12:08] <tangarora> Does anyone have a clue as to why this may be?
[12:08] <Zalabaslea> hmmm
[12:09] <Zalabaslea> so sorry i have no idea
[12:09] <Zalabaslea> the bluetooth works?
[12:09] <tangarora> its like pulse does not understand that its a speaker anymore...
[12:09] <tangarora> Yes bluetooth works fine.
[12:09] <Zalabaslea> check pulseaudio settings or switch to alsa
[12:09] <tangarora> Shows up in the config and the speaker knows its connected.
[12:09] <Zalabaslea> check if muted
[12:10] <tangarora> I cannot mute what is not there to mute in sound setings.
[12:10] <syd> Select another output device, then select the correct one again.
[12:10] <Zalabaslea> try alsactl restore
[12:10] <tangarora> volume is ok on head set
[12:10] <co2-1a5> Hello people
[12:11] <Zalabaslea> try what syd said
[12:13] <tangarora> OK it found: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALC892" and NVidia... not BOSE.
[12:13] <tangarora> Not sure that it would normally show in alsa though?
[12:13] <Zalabaslea> its an external soundcard?
[12:13] <tangarora> no no... those are teh sound cards...
[12:13] <tangarora> but the BOSE is just a speaker via BT
[12:14] <tangarora> bluetooth
[12:14] <SchrodingersScat> I've had a couple lockups on 17.04.  Looking at the logs I suspect it's a hdd that's malfunctioning.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24472625/ is what is right before I did a hard reset because it had been frozen for like 8 hours.
[12:14] <SchrodingersScat> p.s. and what should I do about it
[12:14] <tangarora> I even did a clean install...
[12:14] <tangarora> just because I initially blamed the upgrad in place
[12:15] <tangarora> So strange... BT shows soundLink connected via BT, but the sound setings has no clue its there.
[12:15] <tangarora> so it cannot send sound to it.
[12:18] <blackflow> SchrodingersScat: replace the drive? :)   Could be faulty SATA cable too
[12:20] <Druid-> I just tried in terminal to adduser and it said I'm not root
[12:20] <Druid-> but I know that I am
[12:20] <Druid-> adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[12:21] <Noammac> Have you tried it with sudo or on its own?
[12:21] <Druid-> just alone
[12:21] <Druid-> lemme try that 1 sec
[12:21] <black-knight> hi all
[12:21] <Druid-> got it
[12:22] <nbro> Does anyone know where ubuntu-make installs its tools? Essentially I would like to start Pycharm, which I installed with umake, from the terminal...
[12:22] <nbro> ?
[12:22] <PipeItToDevNull> Try "whereis"
[12:22] <SchrodingersScat> black-knight: it's an external, usb 2.0, ancient.
[12:22] <blackflow> nbro: installed PyCharm with umake? can you explain? I just untar the upstream tarball into /opt
[12:23] <SchrodingersScat> black-knight: oops, that was for blackflow
[12:23] <blackflow> SchrodingersScat: so what's your question?
[12:23] <nbro> blackflow: can you explain what?
[12:23] <blackflow> nbro: installing with umake
[12:23] <SchrodingersScat> blackflow: do I really have to kill that drive? ;_;
[12:23] <black-knight> nbro: You you can just go to $Pycharmdirectory/bin and open it ./pycharm.sh
[12:23] <SchrodingersScat> blackflow: retire it to the land of wind and ghosts?
[12:23] <black-knight> SchrodingersScat: np I was confused at first LOL
[12:24] <blackflow> SchrodingersScat: you can try another USB cable first. You can also try diagnose with smartmontools, and see what that has to say.
[12:24] <nbro> blackflow: http://stackoverflow.com/a/41482822/3924118
[12:24] <SchrodingersScat> a quick test said it was 'ok' but the log makes me think maybe that's not working too well?
[12:24] <black-knight> nbro: why not download from https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/
[12:24] <nbro> black-knight: the problem is where do I find the directory of PyCharm...
[12:24] <blackflow> nbro: I don't know what that does, but unpacking the tarball somewhere and running /bin/pycharm.sh is all it takes
[12:25] <black-knight> nbro: did you check the ubuntu software center?
[12:25] <black-knight> nbro: it can be shown there
[12:25] <nbro> black-knight: because I don’t like to have to update/remove/install manually software, in general
[12:25] <blackflow> nbro: wherever you unpack it
[12:25] <black-knight> blackflow: he installed it in anouther way
[12:25] <blackflow> nbro: using umake is basically "manually", as in not using the official packaging
[12:26] <nbro> the reason is that you need to keep track of things you forget
[12:26] <blackflow> and once you install it, it pretty much updates itself through ~/.PyCharm...
[12:26] <nbro> blackflow: no connection
[12:26] <nbro> of what you’re saying
[12:27] <black-knight> nbro: blackflow is right. Just download the tarball and if you want you can add the /bin to PATH and call it from anywhere (that's what I do)
[12:27] <blackflow> nbro: eh?
[12:27] <nbro> blackflow: "using umake is basically "manually", as in not using the official packaging"?
[12:27] <pynki> SchrodingersScat, sell it on ebay - say its state is not clear
[12:27] <blackflow> black-knight: I unpack it into /opt/pycharm/pycharm-version-here, then symlink /opt/pycharm from /opt/pycharm-version-here. That's why I have a single .desktop icon that always takes from /opt/pycharm whatever the underlying version.
[12:28] <blackflow> works fine
[12:28] <black-knight> blackflow: nice. I will create my .desktop too its very convenient that way (y)
[12:29] <nbro> I’m not going to download any tarball, since ubuntu-make is an official Ubuntu tool and from their philosphy I can be pretty confident of what I’m going to download and install
[12:29] <pynki> SchrodingersScat, you run the "DiskUtility"s SMART Data and test thing
[12:29] <pynki> ?
[12:29] <black-knight> wtf man its from their fucking website. its official
[12:29] <blackflow> nbro: and what do you think ubuntu make downloads? pixie dust? :)  It uses the same official tarballs.
[12:29] <nbro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-make
[12:29] <black-knight> lel
[12:30] <black-knight> okay im out :P
[12:30] <black-knight> bye
[12:30] <blackflow> bb
[12:30] <nbro> blackflow: yes, so why are you suggesting to manually download the tar?
[12:30] <nbro> nonsense
[12:31] <pynki> nbro, why use a tool like that in the first place?
[12:31] <SchrodingersScat> pynki: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1351305 this says it may be false readings, BUT, then why did my system lock up indefinitely?
[12:31] <nbro> pynki: I explained it above
[12:31] <pynki> hoa
[12:31] <pynki> hao
[12:32] <nbro> pynki: I love package managers… I hate to have to download every piece of software that I need to use
[12:32] <nbro> it’s a waste of time
[12:32] <pynki> nbro, have locate installed?  then its quite easy to find things
[12:32] <nbro> mostly when you eventually have to upgrade or remove the software
[12:32] <blackflow> nbro: okay then. :) if you prefer ubuntu-make, then what's the problem?
[12:33] <nbro> blackflow: first 5 minutes using ubuntu-make, dude, why are you provoking?
[12:33] <nbro> you guys just like to lose time, I guess
[12:34] <blackflow> nbro: I'm not, I'm just asking what's the problem with ubuntu make wrt pycharm
[12:36] <pynki> blackflow, he cannot find the pycharm binaries/scripts that ubuntu-make installs. thats the basic problem
[12:36] <pynki> as far as i read it
[12:37] <pynki> if thats the case nbro, just install locate, run 'sudo updatedb' and then 'locate whateveryouarelookingfor'
[12:38] <nbro> pynki: I know I can search through all the system, but my point, from the beginning, is if there is an option in umake to locate the installed tools
[12:39] <ppf> how can i add a user without a password? i.e., allow key-based login via ssh and to set a password later, but disable password login initially?
[12:41] <nbro> I found the place where umake installs stuff ;)
[12:41] <scottjl> ppf: you'd have to set them up, set them up with a password you don't give them, and set up their ssh key.
[12:41] <Noammac> Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you just use useradd without supplying a password?
[12:41] <ppf> Noammac: useradd asks me to type a pw
[12:41] <PipeItToDevNull> man useradd
[12:41] <pynki> Noammac, that would disable the login via keys too i think
[12:43] <scottjl> ppf: if the user has a disabled password they're not going to be able to log in, regardless of key
[12:43] <nbro> for those of you interested, umake lets you choose where to install your tools
[12:43] <nbro> I think I let it to install in a default location
[12:43] <PipeItToDevNull> ppf, What is your goal?
[12:43] <blackflow> nbro: which is where?
[12:43] <scottjl> ppf: you can disable password login for ssh in sshd_config, passwordauthentication no
[12:43] <scottjl> that would be keys only
[12:43] <scottjl> but for everyone
[12:44] <linuxthefish> scottjl with a disabled password a user can still log into SSH with a key
[12:44] <nbro> which is under /home/{user}/.local/share/umake/ide/{yourtool}
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:44] <pynki> exept root scottjl
[12:44] <blackflow> nbro: I see
[12:44] <linuxthefish> disabled password as in "passwd -l user"
[12:44] <blackbird1> Hi, is that a way to share an Ethernet dongle ?
[12:44] <nbro> sometimes doing things alone you lose less time...
[12:44] <nbro> :D lol
[12:44] <PipeItToDevNull> blackbird1, Share it with what
[12:44] <blackbird1> is there*
[12:44] <blackflow> nbro: just don't forget that PyCharm updates itself (when you click to accept of course), and it does into ~/.Pycharm...
[12:45] <linuxthefish> blackbird1, you can iptables NAT it
[12:45] <scottjl> linuxthefish: if i lock an account, i can't get in with or without key
[12:45] <blackbird1> PipeItToDevNull, share it with other computers
[12:45] <linuxthefish> scottjl, lock with "passwd -l" ?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> blackbird1, ethernet dongle?
[12:45] <scottjl> linuxthefish: yes
[12:45] <blackflow> nbro: so it kinda creates a discrepancy between what umake tracks and what pycharm does, that's why I suggested unpacking a tarball to, say, /opt, so you can keep those well separated and under your control.
[12:45] <blackbird1> I have ane USB to access to internet
[12:46] <blackbird1> Yes BluesKaj
[12:46] <nbro> blackflow: not sure it updates itself manually… I use it in another system, and it’s true that when there’s an update it lets you know, but in that system I need to re-download and install the new Pycharm manually, if that’s what you meant
[12:46] <pynki> blackbird1, describe exactly what you want to do.
[12:46] <nbro> * itself automatically
[12:46] <Noammac> nbro: Isn't that just the Windows behaviour?
[12:46] <scottjl> linuxthefish: pam sees the account as locked, doesn't matter what sshd thinks for auth
[12:46] <BluesKaj> blackbird1, are you sure? or is it a wifi dongle?
[12:46] <nbro> Noammac: not Windows
[12:46] <blackflow> nbro: yes you have to explicitly click Update, but newer versions do so without  having to re-download. except on major upgrades, of course.
[12:46] <ppf> scottjl: would still require the user to have a password
[12:46] <Noammac> I remember that it did auto-update on my last Ubuntu installation
[12:47] <scottjl> ppf: yes. you can't not have a password on an account for it to be a valid login account.
[12:47] <ppf> PipeItToDevNull: what i said: adding a user on a headless machine without inventing a password for them
[12:47] <PipeItToDevNull> ppf, Yes, but there is an goal, that is a step
[12:47] <blackbird1> pynki, PipeItToDevNull BluesKaj linuxthefish, I have an Ehterrnet dongle to access to the internet, I try to share the internet with other computers
[12:47] <scottjl> ppf: you can create a long crazy password, never give it to the user, and don't keep track of it.
[12:48] <ppf> PipeItToDevNull: that's the goal :)
[12:48] <scottjl> ppf: but if you don't have a password on the account, then you could log in without one, if you lock the password on the account, then the account can't log in period
[12:48] <PipeItToDevNull> ppf, For what purpose, there is a reason, a need or a want
[12:48] <nbro> Noammac: I think you should stop rage against Windows, btw
[12:48] <scottjl> PipeItToDevNull: does it matter?
[12:48] <nbro> Windows 10 is a very nice piece of software
[12:48] <ppf> matter of fact, using adduser instead of useradd (why's there even two of those??), gives me the option to --disable-password
[12:48] <scottjl> ppf: yes. but that locks the account, preventing login
[12:49] <PipeItToDevNull> scottjl, Finding the end goal would allow other solutions to be proposed since he isnt keen on what has been suggested
[12:49] <nbro> ask to OS experts and by experts I mean really experts, like university professors
[12:49] <ppf> scottjl: not via ssh
[12:49] <ppf> PipeItToDevNull: the goal is to have one user more on my machine?
[12:49] <blackbird1> lsusb
[12:49] <blackbird1> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 12d1:14dc Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
[12:49] <blackbird1> !paste
[12:49] <linuxthefish> scottjl, not for me? http://i.imgur.com/gUlP6NS.png
[12:50] <scottjl> ppf: the problem is user accounts aren't coupled with ssh.
[12:50] <linuxthefish> i can't login with the password anymore but key still works
[12:50] <scottjl> linuxthefish: shrug. i am just testing it now. locked account = no login, even with key.
[12:50] <Noammac> nbro: I am a Windows user myself, I just remember the different behaviour of those two systems in regard to certain program updates.
[12:50] <linuxthefish> scottjl, how did you lock the account?
[12:50] <blackbird1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24472726/
[12:50] <ppf> scottjl: "coupled"?
[12:50] <scottjl> linuxthefish: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24472728/
[12:50] <scottjl> linuxthefish: passwd -l scottjl
[12:51] <scottjl> fortunately i kept another session open before i locked my account ;-)
[12:51] <linuxthefish> how strange lol, i've always used "passwd -l" to remove passwords for key only accounts
[12:52] <ppf> locking the account through passwd or --disable-password "just" disables login with a password. other authentication tokens still work
[12:52] <scottjl> ppf: well then there's your answer, set a bogus pw. then lock the account.
[12:52] <blackbird1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24472726/ <-- ifconfig
[12:53] <mrsun> hmm ... ok so i messed up .. bad ... was removing files and managed to press enter when i was about to do a * sign .. so it became rm * inside of rc4.d ... anyone know how the heck i restore the files for that runlevel? :P
[12:53] <ppf> scottjl: no need for a bogus pw thanks to useradd --disable-password
[12:53] <darkfrog> I did a stupid thing. I was having problems with getting MariaDB working so I uninstalled and then deleted the /etc/mysql directory trying to purge all settings.  Now I can't reinstall because it throws errors expecting it to be there.
[12:53] <scottjl> ppf: ok. so you answered your question?
[12:53] <ppf> yes
[12:53] <darkfrog> Any advice on how to fix it?
[12:54] <ppf> next question: Why is there adduser and useradd?
[12:54] <scottjl> ppf: this is unix. there are a dozen ways to skin the cat
[12:55] <BluesKaj> blackbird1, so how do you plan to connect other computers to an ethernet dongle connected to one pc?
[12:55] <ppf> scottjl: sure, but usually there's a good reason (tm) for either way
[12:56] <linuxthefish> darkfrog, did you 'apt-get --purge mariadb-server*' before installing again? it shouldn't matter
[12:56] <blackbird1> BluesKaj, is it possible to make it as an access point ?
[12:56] <scottjl> ppf: because the people who wrote useradd didn't like what adduser had done so they rolled their own? you'll find a lot of that in *nix
[12:56] <darkfrog> @linuxthefish I tried, but it says no matches found
[12:56] <blackbird1> or to share the connection via ethernet wires ?
[12:57] <linuxthefish> blackbird1, there are tons of tutorials on google about how to share ethernet over wifi :D
[12:57] <scottjl> why have ifconfig and ip ?
[12:57] <ppf> ifconfig is somewhat deprecated and i expect it to be phased out slowly
[12:57] <scottjl> lol.
[12:58] <darkfrog> @linuxthefish not sure it will help, but here's the console output when I try to install via apt: https://pastebin.com/9jtZ09T9
[12:58] <scottjl> bsd vs. att has been going on for over 40 years.
[12:58] <scottjl> nothing in unix happens quickly
[12:59] <BluesKaj> blackbird1, only if you have a switch with several ports or NICs or over wifi
[13:03] <linuxthefish> darkfrog, try 'dpkg-reconfigure --force mariadb-server-10.0'
[13:04] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: it says mariadb-server-10.0 is not installed
[13:04] <darkfrog> because apt errors, it can't be installed
[13:05] <linuxthefish> darkfrog, pastebin what "dpkg -l | grep -E 'mysql|maria'" says
[13:06] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: https://pastebin.com/cM30FNJ3
[13:07] <linuxthefish> ah darkfrog, "dpkg-reconfigure --force mariadb-server-10.1" sorry
[13:08] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: same error
[13:10] <cnnx> when i boot into ubuntu now it says system program problem detected in a popup dialog box, why?
[13:10] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: https://pastebin.com/aUW2xVj3
[13:11] <darkfrog> cnnx: are you running GNOME 3?
[13:11] <cnnx> darkfrog: yes sir
[13:11] <darkfrog> cnnx: `apt install plymouth-x11`
[13:11] <cnnx> like the old car
[13:11] <cnnx> chrysler
[13:12] <cnnx> can i know what i'm installing?
[13:12] <linuxthefish> darkfrog, backup /var/lib/mysql then "dpkg --purge mariadb-server-core-10.1 mariadb-server-10.1 mariadb-server"
[13:12] <darkfrog> GNOME 3 is a new car...GNOME 2 is an old car, and Unity is like a Mustang 2. :-p
[13:12] <linuxthefish> then you should be able to install again without it complaining
[13:12] <cnnx> looks like a kernel update
[13:12] <cnnx> now ireboot?
[13:13] <darkfrog> cnnx: yeah...that fixed things for me
[13:14] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: thanks, that seems to have gotten it installed. :)
[13:15] <cnnx> darkfrog: same message after i rebooted
[13:15] <cnnx> is there something in dmesg i can check?
[13:15] <darkfrog> cnnx: look at the details to determine the responsible application
[13:15] <cnnx> theres no details
[13:15] <cnnx> just cancel or report problem
[13:15] <darkfrog> report problem
[13:16] <cnnx> "sorry the aPPLICATION WVDIAL HAS STOPPED UNEXPECTEDLY"
[13:16] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: what led me down this path was that `mysql -u root` wouldn't let me in and I couldn't figure out why...I tried setting the password, etc. but I'm still seeing the exact same problem.
[13:17] <darkfrog> perhaps this is more a question for #mariadb though
[13:17] <darkfrog> cnnx: looks like it's a PTP dialer...do you need that?
[13:17] <cnnx> no
[13:17] <cnnx> apt-get remove it?
[13:17] <darkfrog> cnnx: then just remove it. :-p
[13:18] <cnnx> what does :-p mean?
[13:18] <cnnx> is it a sideways smile?
[13:18] <scottjl> yes
[13:18] <scottjl> tongue sticking out
[13:19] <darkfrog> I have bad manners
[13:19] <scottjl> or a long tongue
[13:19] <cnnx> oh
[13:19] <linuxthefish> darkfrog, you should be able to stop mysql service then run "mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables" then use mysql command line to set a new password
[13:19] <darkfrog> scottjl: it doesn't fit entirely in my mouth.
[13:19] <LOBINIOS> ciao
[13:19] <LOBINIOS> !list
[13:20] <scottjl> lol. ubuntu warez?
[13:20] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: I don't want a password set but even after changing the password it doesn't seem to let me in
[13:20] <semitones> scottjl: dl ubtu for free!!
[13:20] <scottjl> semitones: yes. i know. i was just laughing at someone here looking for warez.
[13:21] <cnnx> darkfrog: thanks its fixed now :)
[13:21] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: I ran mysql_secure_installation the last time and set a password but I was still getting denied....it's a default install
[13:21] <darkfrog> cnnx: when in doubt, uninstall
[13:21] <cnnx> ok
[13:21] <linuxthefish> darkfrog, you are using "mysql -u root -p" to login to mysql?
[13:21] <darkfrog> cnnx: that was a joke....don't really follow that
[13:21] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: no, "mysql -u root"
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !behelpful
[13:22] <darkfrog> cfhowlett: if that was pointed at me I just helped him fix his problem, so be nice! :-p
[13:25] <tangarora> OK i figured out how to re enable the pairing of BOSE DounLink Mini to Ubuntu after upgrad to Ubuntu 17.04
[13:25] <tangarora> You must edit:
[13:25] <tangarora> sudo nano /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf [General]
[13:25] <tangarora> And add:
[13:25] <tangarora> Disable=Socket
[13:25] <tangarora> Enable=Media,Source,Sink,Gateway
[13:26] <tangarora> Or it will not work.
[13:26] <tangarora> Someone over at canonical must have done something...
[13:27] <mikeymop> is there an alternative to bluez I can use?
[13:27] <mikeymop> I have an XPS dev edition and a Dell mouse, marked compatible with my notebook
[13:27] <linuxthefish> darkfrog you should be able to run "sudo -u mysql mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables", then in a new window run "mysql -u root" to get access
[13:27] <mikeymop> however when the mouse idles it will disconnect and I have to do a full re-pairing to get it to work again
[13:27] <linuxthefish> then add a root user with no password
[13:28] <linuxthefish> using "CREATE USER 'root2'@'localhost'" and "GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'root2'@'%'"
[13:28] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: I used "sudo mysql -u root" to log in and then deleted the root user and re-created it.  Apparently in that build it comes pre-configured with a random password?
[13:29] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: everything works fine now...thanks for all your help
[13:29] <marcofe> hi everbody
[13:30] <linuxthefish> darkfrog, using "update user set password=PASSWORD("") where User='root';" works for me to set the root user as having no password
[13:30] <linuxthefish> see http://i.imgur.com/j60bXIE.png
[13:32] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: that probably would have been easier. ;)
[13:32] <OlofL> Is it just me or does the spotify font look like shit on my machine. its so blurry
[13:32] <linuxthefish> darkfrog, there is a built in maintainer user with a random password set
[13:34] <blackrabbit> hey
[13:35] <blackrabbit> anyone tried 17.04?
[13:35] <tarzeau> yes
[13:35] <darkfrog> blackrabbit: running it now
[13:35] <cfhowlett> no polls in this channel please.  focus on YOUR problems and YOur specifications
[13:36] <blackrabbit> I don't have any problem, just wondering if I should upgrade from 16.04 or wait for TLS
[13:36] <linuxthefish> yeah sorry darkfrog i don't always think of the best solution first, i'm noob mysql user :p
[13:36] <cfhowlett> your choice --- obviously. 9 months support vs. 5 years support.  chooose.
[13:36] <darkfrog> blackrabbit: it's been pretty solid for me...apart from having a few problems with mariadb
[13:36] <Pici> blackrabbit: If you're on an LTS, I'd wait for the next LTS
[13:37] <blackrabbit> yeah currently running 16.04.2 LTS
[13:37] <darkfrog> linuxthefish: ironically I am setting up MariaDB to migrate one of my projects away from it to ArangoDB...
[13:38] <linuxthefish> i use mariadb for most stuff
[13:57] <bonezim> Hello World
[14:00] <zukizukito> please help me with this error
[14:00] <zukizukito> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24473034/
[14:01] <zukizukito> cant update anything from my software centre
[14:01] <zukizukito> its shows error
[14:02] <zukizukito> somebody please help :(
[14:02] <Menzador> zukizukito: What version? The original Software Centre is deprecated in favour of a fork of GNOME Software
[14:02] <zukizukito> mine is kubuntu
[14:02] <zukizukito> latest version
[14:03] <Menzador> OK, so that's Muon Discover right?
[14:03] <zukizukito> i installed fluxion lately
[14:03] <zukizukito> yea
[14:03] <zukizukito> and after that i think all this happened
[14:03] <Menzador> zukizukito: What sort of error message appears?
[14:03] <zukizukito> cant apt-get dist-upgrade also
[14:03] <zukizukito> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24473034/
[14:04] <yeats> zukizukito: https://askubuntu.com/questions/176121/dpkg-error-trying-to-overwrite-file-which-is-also-in#176132 may help
[14:04] <zukizukito> please check the paste
[14:04] <Menzador> zukizukito: [ sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get update ]
[14:05] <Menzador> (in your terminal)
[14:05] <Menzador> Then try again
[14:06] <linuxthefish> zukizukito, if that doesn't fix pastebin the output of "gconf-service"
[14:07] <Menzador> GConf?
[14:07] <linuxthefish> "gconf-service 3.2.6-4+b1" does not sound like a ubuntu package
[14:08] <blackbird1> Hi in bash, how to sort an array from A to Z then from a to z ?
[14:08] <Menzador> Good point... what needs GConf?
[14:08] <zukizukito> it didnt work
[14:08] <zukizukito> gconf-service?
[14:08] <linuxthefish> blackbird1, #bash will know better
[14:08] <Menzador> blackbird1: #bash might help you better
[14:08] <blackbird1> no answer there
[14:09] <linuxthefish> whoops, i should have said pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy gconf-service" zukizukito
[14:09] <linuxthefish> blackbird1 is http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7442417/how-to-sort-an-array-in-bash what you are looking for?
[14:10] <zukizukito> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24473076/
[14:10] <linuxthefish> zukizukito you have kali linux sources on kubuntu, that won't work
[14:10] <zukizukito> please check the paste
[14:11] <zukizukito> i installed fluxion lately
[14:11] <zukizukito> that came from the installer
[14:11] <zukizukito> how fix that
[14:12] <linuxthefish> zukizukito, pastebin the output of "grep kali /etc/apt/sources.list* -r"
[14:13] <zukizukito> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24473090/
[14:14] <Menzador> !kali | zukizukito
[14:15] <zukizukito> i know , kali repos came from the installation of fluxion
[14:15] <zukizukito> and many other things like reaver aircrack too
[14:15] <linuxthefish> zukizukito run "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and delete the kali linux lines, then save, "apt-get update", then "apt-get -f install"
[14:15] <Menzador> linuxthefish: He has KDE
[14:16] <orglce_> hello. i have a question about my corrupted usb
[14:17] <linuxthefish> Menzador, yeah but you can't use kali sources in ubuntu/kubuntu without some work
[14:18] <linuxthefish> ubuntu does have an aircrack-ng package if you want that
[14:18] <cfhowlett> and mixing distro sources is highly inadvisable
[14:20] <thyriaen> is there a tool to spellcheck pdf files ?
[14:20] <Menzador> linuxthefish: My point is that gedit is a GNOME product, not shipped with Kubuntu
[14:21] <zukizukito> i used nano
[14:21] <linuxthefish> whoops sorry my bad, yeah nano will work :p
[14:21] <zukizukito> :P
[14:21] <zukizukito> thanks a lot , i think its working
[14:22] <zukizukito> till now, no errors
[14:23] <zukizukito> thanks a lot
[14:23] <zukizukito> it worked
[14:23] <zukizukito> thank you menzador , linuxthefish
[14:24] <zukizukito> i have one more doubt
[14:24] <zukizukito> :D
[14:24] <zukizukito> its regarding metasploit
[14:27] <zukizukito> any help
[14:27] <zukizukito> ?
[14:27] <zukizukito> with metasploit
[14:27] <cfhowlett> you ask no question, you get no answer
[14:28] <zukizukito> i used the android module to create a rat in msf
[14:28] <zukizukito> but it work only when both are connected to same wifi , treid using the public ip but its not working
[14:29] <linuxthefish> zukizukito, might be best to ask in #metasploit channel
[14:29] <zukizukito> ok
[14:29] <zukizukito> thank you
[14:31] <rockyh> Hi!
[14:32] <rockyh> as regards the package libnss-ldapd configuration, I get in a client with Ubuntu 16.04 the following error when trying to connect to a working server:
[14:32] <rockyh> TLS: could not set cipher list HIGH:MEDIUM:+SSLv3.
[14:32] <rockyh> this is documented in https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/OpenLDAPSetup#Configuring_TLS.2FSSL
[14:33] <rockyh> Changing the configuration of server to `TLSCipherSuite NORMAL' is really the only option available for this kind of issue?
[14:34] <linuxthefish> rockyh, isn't sslv3 dead?
[14:35] <linuxthefish> zukizukito, if you still want to install fluxion most of the dependencies needed as shown in https://github.com/wi-fi-analyzer/fluxion/blob/master/Installer.sh are available from ubuntu repos
[14:39] <zukizukito> thanks linuxthefish
[14:44] <amalmajeed> anybody here ?
[14:44] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu support question, amalmajeed
[14:44] <Armays> how can i get only docker images beginning by registry.gitlab.com ?
[14:44] <Armays> in docker images ?
[14:45] <rockyh> linuxthefish: I was following a guide suggesting it. Maybe it is obsolete, but the problem with Ubuntu is still there even with HIGH:MEDIUM only
[14:47] <JP____> guess he didn't have an ubuntu support question
[14:58] <rfleming> Morning!
[14:58] <rfleming> Does anyone know where gvfsd-fuse is mounted?
[14:59] <rfleming> let me rephrase... does anyone know where the call to mount gvfsd-fuse is located
[14:59] <rfleming> I need to change the mount options to allow_root
[15:00] <kristhian> how does sudo su different from just sudo?
[15:00] <compdoc> sudo su logs you in as root and remains that way until you exit
[15:01] <kristhian> i see, thanks
[15:01] <compdoc> the prompt changes to show you are root
[15:03] <kristhian> how about sudo su rm -rf / all users
[15:03] <kristhian> what does that mean?
[15:03] <kristhian> destroy all users from a directory?
[15:03] <Zalabaslea> destroy?
[15:04] <Zalabaslea> no, erase path /
[15:04] <kristhian> aw
[15:05] <kristhian> so it will break down the system?
[15:05] <kristhian> i mean that command?
[15:05] <cfhowlett> deluser is the command you should be using kristhian
[15:06] <kristhian> ah
[15:06] <kristhian> ok
[15:06] <kristhian> so that command is just equivalent to deluser
[15:06] <rickety> this isnt really a ubuntu question, but im stuck and mabey some one here can point me in the right direction, for 16.04 how do i burn programs to a cd/dvd disk ?
[15:07] <raub> kristhian: rm knows nothing about users. It only deletes files and directories
[15:07] <raub> To delete a user you have to tell the machine not to see the user as a, well, user.
[15:07] <kristhian> i do not know why someone posted that command
[15:07] <kristhian> i was just curious
[15:07] <kristhian> thats why i asked
[15:08] <kristhian> sudo su rm -rf / all users
[15:08] <kristhian> something like that
[15:08] <rfleming> kristhian, a system typically won't allow a user to log in, if they don't have a home folder
[15:08] <kristhian> and another adduser guest[1.00000]
[15:08] <raub> kristhian: "rm -rf /" deletes every single file ont he computer
[15:08] <rfleming> that command will delete all files from your system
[15:08] <kristhian> oh
[15:09] <kristhian> so it means that it will break all the system?
[15:09] <raub> Someone was trying to pull your leg
[15:09] <rfleming> kristhian, yep
[15:09] <kristhian> ok
[15:09] <raub> Just because someone posts something you should not blindly follow it
[15:09] <kristhian> yes i didnt
[15:09] <raub> specially if *I* am the one who posted it. ;)
[15:09] <kristhian> how about the command adduser guest[1.000]
[15:10] <kristhian> raub: maybe you did post it
[15:10] <kristhian> lol
[15:10]  * raub wistles innocently
[15:10] <draco_> Hi all, I have a question. I have 2 computers, one have 17.04 on it and second KDE Neon (16.04, esentially), because of that when I installed synergy both PC had different versions. In order to have the same version I did apt download synergy on 17.04 and installed downloaded deb on 16.04. Are there any drawbacks of this solution?
[15:10] <ppf> rm -rf doesn't remove anything
[15:10] <ppf> *rm -rf /
[15:10] <raub> ppf: it depends on which user you are running as
[15:11] <ppf> oh, well, and on the default of --preserve-root, i just noticed
[15:11] <draco_> raub: it will not do anything even as root
[15:11] <kristhian> anyways next question
[15:11] <draco_> ppf: exactly, you need that option
[15:11] <kristhian> what does adduser guest[1.00000] does?
[15:11] <kristhian> or what does it mean?
[15:11] <ppf> draco_: yes, but the option is the default
[15:12] <draco_> ppf: no, by default you have to add that option to rm -rf  / in order to delete /.
[15:12] <ppf> but it appears the default changed sometime, it used to be --no-preserve-root
[15:12] <xXEoflaOEXx> Hi everyone. I have had apt-get keeps saying (Connecting to sy.archive.ubuntu.com (ip)) while my Internet was fine! I even installed the RTL8192CU driver fixes and it appeared to work on 16.10! I removed firefox because it crashes while I open after the upgrade and now I do not have any Internet browser installed. Should I force apt-get to connect like all other Internet-required apps like ping, HexChat, browser? It pings that IP address that
[15:12] <xXEoflaOEXx> apt gave me fine.
[15:12] <ppf> draco_: not according to my man page
[15:13] <draco_> ppf: try it ;)
[15:13] <ppf> you first!
[15:13] <draco_> ok, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[15:13] <ppf> yakkety
[15:13] <wannado> I use ssh to log into a remote server. Since some days I have a strange keyboard behaviour only on the remote server: when I press d once, I get an underlined d (
[15:13] <wannado> ) and when pressed twice turns into a Ð. Other keys perform also strange with different special characters. How can I reset this?
[15:13] <ppf> coreutils 8.25
[15:14] <mikeymop> is there a better place for me to get help with bluez?
[15:15] <Scungielli> Question:  What is the best/fastest LIGHTWEIGHT web browser for running on an old netbook?  1GB ram, Intel Atom CPU
[15:15] <cfhowlett> !browser | Scungielli
[15:15] <rfleming> does anyone know where gvfsd-fuse is called to mount /var/run/user/$UID/gvfs?
[15:16] <thyriaen> is there a tool to spellcheck pdf files ?
[15:16] <rfleming> thyriaen, I believe no as PDF files are not meant to be 'editable'
[15:16] <rfleming> (like a word processor)
[15:16] <draco_> ppf: tested
[15:16] <draco_> root@ubuntu-512mb-nyc3-01:~# rm -rf /
[15:16] <draco_> rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on '/'
[15:16] <draco_> rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe
[15:17] <thyriaen> yes, but i am looking for a tool that highlights mistakes, do not require editing them
[15:17] <draco_> ppf: on fresh droplet on DO
[15:18] <kristhian> another question
[15:18] <kristhian> what does [1.00000] does?
[15:18] <kristhian> in adding user?
[15:18] <draco_> Hi all, I have a question. I have 2 computers, one have 17.04 on it and second KDE Neon (16.04, esentially), because of that when I installed synergy both PC had different versions. In order to have the same version I did apt download synergy on 17.04 and installed downloaded deb on 16.04. Are there any drawbacks of this solution?
[15:18] <draco_> anyone?
[15:18] <kristhian> for example adduser guest[1.0000]
[15:19] <rfleming> draco_, yes.  The libraries most likely will be different as there is more to a version number than the version number
[15:19] <rfleming> there may be dependencies for newer libraries than are on your 16.04 machine
[15:20] <rfleming> other than that, no.  Just check and make sure.
[15:20] <thyriaen> rfleming, so you know of nothing like that ?
[15:20] <draco_> rlfeming: well, it already worked I was thinking more about long term problems
[15:20] <raub> draco_, ppf: if you are relying on this failsafe handholding thingie, you are braver than me
[15:20] <tsglove> I was reading about apr-proxy, yet not sure if there is a newer solution?
[15:22] <rfleming> thyriaen, there is no spell-check for PDF files.  You will need to import it into another program.
[15:22] <rfleming> maybe Abiword?
[15:22] <draco_> raub: what are you reffering to?
[15:22] <thyriaen> okey thanks rfleming i will check it out
[15:24] <Random832> kristhian, where do you see that? that oesn't make sense.
[15:25] <ubbbu> hio
[15:25] <ubbbu> in..
[15:26] <draco_> hi ubbbu
[15:28] <sudoer> I have a question regarding preseed on ubuntu 16.04.
[15:28] <nacc> !ask | sudoer
[15:28] <ubbbu> sm adrees g2 g3  android...old??????
[15:30] <sudoer> It works without a problem on VMs. When I tried using it on desktop/laptop, I get the "No disk drive was detected..." prompt. I hit ESC, click "Detect disks" and it detects and proceeds without incident.
[15:33] <ubuntu-mate> hi there ... im trying to install ubuntu mate but the installation abortss saying that there is a problem about bootloader... how can I fix? i am on a live right now thank hyou
[15:33] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: problem how?
[15:34] <EriC^^> what's the error?
[15:34] <tonyt> i have 16.04 set up on a laptop on the lan. i installed openssh-server on the laptop. i ssh'ed in the laptop from the desktop fine. what is the command to switch to root?
[15:35] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, it just says that bootloader cannot be installed ... than it lets me choose among different partitions to install it, but then after reboot system does not start
[15:36] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:36] <ubbbu> number...
[15:36] <EriC^^> tonyt: su
[15:36] <EriC^^> tonyt: sudo -i
[15:36] <tonyt> i tried su, su -, sudo -i. all 3 times i put the password in and it doesnt work
[15:36] <EriC^^> do you have sudo access?
[15:36] <EriC^^> try id; sudo -l
[15:37] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/mtes
[15:38] <draco_> tonyt: its sudo su -
[15:38] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--mate--vg-root /mnt
[15:38] <tonyt> k ill try that thanks
[15:38] <mikeymop> Scungielli: try midori and w3m
[15:38] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, done
[15:38] <draco_> using only su you have to know root pass because su is only for changing user
[15:39] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[15:39] <tonyt> draco_ that worked. thanks
[15:39] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, done
[15:39] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: sudo chroot /mnt
[15:40] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: ah wait a sec
[15:40] <EriC^^> you dont have a /boot partition!
[15:40] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: lvm needs a separate /boot i think
[15:40] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, i just let it choose the partition table by formatting the whole hdd
[15:41] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: odd it chose lvm
[15:41] <EriC^^> do you want lvm?
[15:42] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, i tried both lvm installation and normal installation, the result is the same
[15:42] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: try normal installation
[15:42] <EriC^^> if it doesnt work come back here
[15:43] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, already tried with normal install
[15:43] <ubuntu-mate> the system installs, but doesnt boot
[15:44] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, how can i totally format from live? gparted does not allows me to format
[15:44] <xXEoflaOEXx> I cannot use Firefox because it kept crashing at startup. I can use it before the upgrade from Xubuntu 16.04 LTS to 16.10 and now I cannot. I even tried to reinstall it, but it does not fix it.
[15:52] <rypervenche> xXEoflaOEXx: Have you tried moving your mozilla folder out of the way and starting with a fresh one?
[15:53] <xXEoflaOEXx> rypervenche, no. Where is that folder?
[15:55] <rypervenche> xXEoflaOEXx: It's a dot folder in your home directory. If you use the command line you can type: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak
[15:55] <rypervenche> xXEoflaOEXx: Or if you feel more comfortable with the GUI, you can type ctrl+h to show hidden files and folders and find the .mozilla one and rename it to something else.
[15:56] <xXEoflaOEXx> rypervenche, I tried it. same thing happened
[15:57] <rypervenche> xXEoflaOEXx: Then it is not your configuration. Can you open up a terminal and type: firefox
[15:57] <rypervenche> xXEoflaOEXx: Then copy all of the output after it crashes to a pastebin site.
[15:57] <xXEoflaOEXx> rypervenche ok.
[15:59] <xXEoflaOEXx> rypervenche do I just have to run "firefox | pastebinit"?
[15:59] <rickety> i have 2 computer drives with 16.04 on them both, if i plug in drive both of them to the same computer, can i copy programs from the second drive to the first?
[16:00] <rypervenche> xXEoflaOEXx: I don't know if that will work. If it does, you should use |& instead of |
[16:01] <xXEoflaOEXx> rypervenche, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24473635/
[16:02] <rypervenche> xXEoflaOEXx: Looks to be an xorg issue. Looking into a possible solution for you.
[16:02] <ppf> draco_: and successfully?
[16:03] <xXEoflaOEXx> rypervence, ok thanks. by the way I have to go.
[16:03] <rypervenche> Or that.
[16:03] <rypervenche> Don't see why people ask for help when they don't have time to fix it ><
[16:04] <rickety> is there a way to transfer programs between drives? for 16?
[16:06] <rypervenche> rickety: You mean installed programs on Linux? What is your ultimate goal with the other hard drive?
[16:07] <user3> hello
[16:08] <rickety> ultimatly they will be going into two diffrent computers
[16:08] <pynkii> rickety, you want only the binaries transfered?
[16:09] <pynkii> or configuration etc. too?
[16:09] <rickety> pnkii the whole thing
[16:10] <pynkii> rickety, am i right in assuming that the hardware - besides the harddrives - is not the same?
[16:10] <rickety> correct
[16:11] <pynkii> rickety, then just cloning the harddrive is not an option. manual transfer of the configs will be needed and the best way to install the programs will be a fresh install on the other machine
[16:11] <pynkii> i think you knwo what programs you need/want?
[16:12] <pynkii> the programs it self are not your problem if you knwo all of them. the configs are
[16:13] <rickety> pynkii i dont want to copy or clone either drive! im asking: is there a way to transfer programs between drives using ubuntu OR is there a way ubuntu and burn programs right to a disk
[16:14] <pynkii> no
[16:14] <pynkii> as long as you did not install them by hand but with the packetmanager
[16:15] <rickety> ok then the other drive and computer are crap. thats all i needed to know. Thank You
[16:15] <user3> hi guys can i get some help in here
[16:15] <pynkii> user3 depends
[16:16] <user3> what is this all about?
[16:16] <pynkii> ubuntu
[16:16] <user3> yes i know , i mean specifically
[16:16] <pynkii> what we are talking abotu right now?
[16:16] <nacc> user3: if you have an issue with ubuntu, ask for help here
[16:17] <pynkii> the possibility of copying programs including configs from one ubuntu system containing hdd to another one containing ubuntu too
[16:17] <user3> oh thats interesting
[16:18] <user3> thanks guys
[16:18] <pynkii> not the possibility but the existence of a program that can do that
[16:18] <Zalabaslea> Simooon: !!!
[16:19] <pynkii> and well - sure its possible but i do not knwo any program that does the work for you
[16:19] <Simooon> Zalabaslea, !!!
[16:19] <user3> (y)
[16:20] <user3> i just turned from arch to ubuntu
[16:20] <pynkii> same same but different...
[16:22] <Simooon> I'm trying to write a script that can send me mail when certain events happen, trying to use sendmail, but get the error "sendmail: cannot open mail:25" can anyone point me in the right direction, is there some configuration I need to do, or how does this work, google only give me super old gentoo forum posts when trying to find out what is going on...
[16:22] <user3> i still have the same problem dude
[16:22] <Simooon> (and they do not seem to applu)
[16:23] <Simooon> user3, what is your issue? I was just considering trying manjaro the other day.
[16:26] <LordDragon> hey guys. so i have vsftpd setup and i can connect and list the directory
[16:26] <godmachine81> hmm i must be sick.. how the heck i get in here
[16:26] <godmachine81> sorry
[16:26] <LordDragon> but any attempt to upload gives me an error
[16:26] <LordDragon> "cannot create file"
[16:28] <Guest39418> hello
[16:28] <Zalabaslea> (m)
[16:32] <pynkii> LordDragon, the user running the deamon can create files in location?
[16:32] <LordDragon> oh hmm
[16:32] <pynkii> try to set the folder 777 for testing to see if it is a rights problem
[16:32] <LordDragon> nope
[16:32] <LordDragon> id have to use sudo to creat a file
[16:32] <pynkii> here you go ;)
[16:32] <LordDragon> its a write problem
[16:33] <gideon> hi
[16:33] <LordDragon> hmm.. so id have to add my account to write permission
[16:33] <LordDragon> i created a 2nd user cuz i was told its safer
[16:34] <gideon> hello thre
[16:34] <LordDragon> but if the daemon is running under my main ubuntu account ANYWAYS, maybe its not any safer
[16:34] <pynkii> Simooon, https://askubuntu.com/questions/531526/ssmtp-cannot-open-mail-server-com25 maybe this helps?
[16:34] <Sbur3> Hi.  Anyone have the courage to direct me towards the latest version of the ath9k driver for Ubuntu 17.04?  And can that person explain how I need to install / enable it?
[16:35] <gideon> @Sbur3 why u need it for?
[16:35] <LordDragon> how do i set a directory so that ANY user can write to it?
[16:36] <Walex> Sbur3: don't do that. Just use a backported kernel.
[16:36] <mikeymop> LordDragon: chmod [directory] 666
[16:36] <pynkii> Sbur3 the wifi does not work? networks showing up but not able to connect?
[16:36] <Walex> LordDragon: chmod a+rwx $DIR
[16:36] <mikeymop> 6 = rw first digit is owner, 2nd is group, third is global
[16:36] <Simooon> pynkii, I looked at that as well, didn't quite understand it, but I'll give it another look, thanks regardless :-)
[16:36] <LordDragon> ok thanks
[16:36] <Walex> mikeymop: 1 is for search
[16:37] <Sbur3> pynkii: gideon: You got it pynkii.  AR9287 chip usb
[16:37] <EriC^^> LordDragon: i think it's chmod 666 <dir>
[16:37] <LordDragon> if i changed it so nobody/nogroup owned it, would that do the same thing?
[16:37] <mikeymop> ^^
[16:37] <mikeymop> i derped
[16:37] <mikeymop> lsiten to EriC^^
[16:37] <Walex> LordDragon: that's irrelevant
[16:37] <LordDragon> ok
[16:37] <gideon> ok
[16:37] <pynkii> Sbur3, https://askubuntu.com/questions/902992/ubuntu-gnome-17-04-wi-fi-not-working-mac-address-keeps-changing thy this
[16:37] <LordDragon> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-for-a-user-s-directory-on-ubuntu-16-04
[16:38] <LordDragon> i mtrying to follow that guide
[16:38] <Walex> LordDragon: ahahahahahaha
[16:38] <LordDragon> i dont understand why they tell me to REMOVE write ability for the ftp
[16:38] <Sbur3> pynkii: What bugs me is that when I look, the Wifi is there.  But I can't connect to it
[16:38] <Walex> LordDragon: FTP should not be setup like that...
[16:38] <pynkii> Sbur3, see the link i send, you are not alone
[16:38] <LordDragon> Walex: ok. so closing THAT tab then lol
[16:38] <Walex> LordDragon: well, depends though
[16:39] <Sbur3> pynkii: I see that.  But it worked on an older computer with 17.04.  Now I have an i3 based computer, and it doesn't
[16:39] <LordDragon> Walex: i guess having a second user means that if they get that password, they wont be able to ssh in and SU up and
[16:39] <LordDragon> stuff
[16:40] <Walex> LordDragon: that tab is not bad, it has to be understood wrt to what you wan to do. But 'nobody'/'nogroup' are a bit special and should not be used
[16:40] <LordDragon> ok
[16:40] <pynkii> Sbur3, so the wifi adapter changed too or only the cpu?
[16:40] <LordDragon> the daemon is running under my main ubuntu account where i can do sudo
[16:40] <LordDragon> so i created a second user
[16:40] <LordDragon> with adduser
[16:40] <Walex> LordDragon: FTP can be setup in one of two ways: "anonymous", where users don't need to login, and non-anonymous, where they need to login.
[16:40] <LordDragon> nonanonmous for sure
[16:41] <Sbur3> pynkii: No, just the computer
[16:41] <LordDragon> but the problem is i cant upload to second user account because the daemon is running on the main account
[16:41] <LordDragon> so i cant write
[16:41] <Walex> LordDragon: then for non-anonymous there are two choices: users who are also UNIX users, and users who are just FTP users.
[16:41] <LordDragon> oh ok
[16:41] <LordDragon> id rather just do ftp only
[16:41] <LordDragon> but i didnt see that anywhere
[16:42] <Walex> LordDragon: not all FTP daemons support having their own list of users; and the others you can disable UNIX login by setting their shell to /bin/false or something.
[16:43] <Sbur3> pynkii: Look at this ... the reaction to the first part of your link. https://pastebin.com/CY05tQww
[16:43] <LordDragon> Walex: im using vsftpd
[16:44] <pynkii> Sbur3, add the wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no line and see if it changes anything in the wifi connectivity or not
[16:45] <Walex> LordDragon: in 'vsftpd' FTP-only users are called "virtual users" IIRC
[16:46] <Walex> LordDragon: anyhow your problem is not really FTP related; it is is that you want RW access to the directory of the FTP user.
[16:46] <Walex> LordDragon: is that the case?
[16:47] <Sbur3> pynkii: After the restart command, I don't have the option to choose to enable or not wifi
[16:47] <pynkii> Sbur3, well, then better reverse the changes :D
[16:47] <Walex> LordDragon: http://howto.gumph.org/content/setup-virtual-users-and-directories-in-vsftpd/ https://askubuntu.com/questions/575523/how-to-setup-virtual-users-for-vsftpd-with-access-to-a-specific-sub-directory
[16:48] <LordDragon> Walex: yes thats the case
[16:48] <Sbur3> pynkii: Doesn't change much for me.  I'm using the computer that doesn't want wifi with the auto eth connection
[16:49] <Walex> LordDragon: then the standard "UNIX" solutions are two: use your personal group, or use ACLs.
[16:49] <htafdresgi> how to enable tty1-6 on 16.04+ ?
[16:49] <htafdresgi> i tried google many conflicting results
[16:49] <LordDragon> Walex: hmm so i would change the group of my ftp user to my main account group?
[16:50] <Walex> LordDragon: to use your personal group, set the group-owner of the directory to your group, set the permissions for the group on the directory to 'rwxs', and job done.
[16:50] <Walex> LordDragon: no, change the group of the directory to your main account group.
[16:51] <Walex> LordDragon: otherwise you can use ACLs to give extra permissions on the directory to your main account *user*.
[16:51] <Sbur3> pynkii: Because I can still see the Wifi connections via edit connections
[16:53] <Walex> LordDragon: http://www.golinuxhub.com/2012/10/give-individual-permission-on.html  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[16:54] <Sbur3> pynkii: Any other ideas?
[16:55] <Sbur3> pynkii: Any idea about how to check for the ath9k driver?
[16:56] <jhonnyBeGood> I could say that signal are one of the ways that process can comunicate to each other?
[16:56] <LordDragon> Walex: wow acl looks pretty complex for just setting up an ftp server for my IP camera to send video to. heh
[16:57] <sergey_> Why quit?
[16:58] <Walex> LordDragon: not that complicated, just a 'setfacl'...
[17:02] <muzz> is there any ubuntu os that can transfer files via usb?
[17:03] <LordDragon> Walex: success! changed the group
[17:03] <LordDragon> and then chmod g+rw
[17:03] <LordDragon> thank you :)
[17:03] <LordDragon> lets see if ftp works now
[17:04] <muzz> every one talks about this how can ubuntu be so shitty?
[17:04] <LordDragon> Response:	500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[17:04] <LordDragon> some other safety mechanism i guess
[17:04] <Walex> LordDragon: yes...
[17:05] <muzz> can anyone direct me to the ubuntu help chat>?
[17:05] <LordDragon> Walex: i guess i should make a sub folder in this ftp folder so that the active home ftp dir isnt root?
[17:06] <nacc> muzz: you are in the ubuntu support channel
[17:06] <Walex> LordDragon: the error is "writable root", that is "writable root directory" of the 'chroot' tree
[17:06] <muzz> aparently im not
[17:06] <LordDragon> Walex: ok. so i guess thats a no no? i mean the ftp dir is /home/foscam/ftp
[17:06] <anddam> hello
[17:06] <nacc> muzz: you are, this is it.
[17:07] <muzz> just greese fat people sitting in a chair at the computer talking about ubuntu
[17:07] <Walex> LordDragon: this presentation is one of many on the topic of permissions: http://localhost/Notes/linuxOwnPermDet15.html
[17:07] <muzz> i actually need help
[17:07] <Happy[m]> just stopping by to ask this, linux mint users, when linux mint devs release a new version do you upgrade kind of like windows 10? (where you upgrade through the control panel) or do you have to manually upgrade?
[17:07] <anddam> I'm trying to add an user to my 16.04 via Unity's setting panel
[17:07] <LordDragon> Walex: i dont have access to your localhost. or are you saying thats on my localhost?
[17:07] <nacc> muzz: your attitude is rude and will result in no one helping you
[17:08] <akik> !mint
[17:08] <anddam> clicking the "unlock" button I get the "Authentication is required to change user data" request for password
[17:08] <Happy[m]> ubottu: thanks
[17:08] <anddam> if I put it my user (the only one, administrator) I get "Your authentication was unsuccessful. Please Try again."
[17:08] <Happy[m]> ill ask there .-.
[17:08] <anddam> is the password I'm prompted my current user's one?
[17:08] <akik> ;-)
[17:09] <Walex> LordDragon: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxOwnPermDet15.html
[17:09] <anddam> I figure so, but I'd rather ask than keep putting in the wrong one
[17:09] <LordDragon> Walex: ok thanks
[17:09] <anddam> if that's the right one how can I check why isn't it accepting the pw?
[17:09] <muzz> why wont ubuntu let me copy anything to a ( usb, cd, other drive,) any thing
[17:10] <anddam> muzz: permissions, it's not actually ubuntu preventing but the program you're using to copy the file
[17:10] <Walex> LordDragon: ideally in a FTP 'chroot' tree *all* directories and files are read-only except for the upload directory (traditionally called 'incoming').
[17:10] <LordDragon> Walex: ok well i can create a subdirectory in my ftp dir
[17:11] <muzz> anddam copy and paste has permissions???? through what program?
[17:11] <vho_> hi
[17:12] <vho_> Play yo do no warzon 2100?
[17:13] <vho_> okayß
[17:23] <kang0> (kang0) (kang0) Can you suggest some softwares to be installed in it
[17:23] <kang0> (kang0) I bought new laptop
[17:24] <nacc> kang0: that's not the purpose of this channel -- you don't know what you want to use your laptop for?
[17:25] <kang0> No
[17:25] <Zalabaslea> Yes
[17:25] <Zalabaslea> where is bugzbunny?
[17:25] <Zalabaslea> ah wrong channel sorry
[17:27] <nacc> kang0: then figure that out first
[17:27] <oerheks> kang0, tons of webpages with reviews & suggestions, omgubuntu, fulllcirclemagazine and such
[17:27] <kang0> Are those websites?
[17:28] <soee_> is it ok to empty /var/cache ?
[17:28] <LordDragon> Walex: ok. got it working now! last thing is to disable the ability to ssh in to this ftp unix account. how do i do that? something about changing the shell to /bin/false ?
[17:29] <melodie> hi
[17:30] <Walex> LordDragon: yes.
[17:30] <melodie> I would need help to do a dual boot with uefi and gpt on a thinkstation W520
[17:30] <melodie> can someone advice me?
[17:31] <melodie> I have installed ubuntu gnome behind windows 10, using a usb stick with iso images and grub on it (but not grub-efi) and I had to use the option "both" for legacy and uefi in the bios.
[17:32] <melodie> else it would not have booted
[17:32] <melodie> but I can't boot to ubuntu since I have installed it
[17:32] <Walex> soee_: usually yes, but sometimes there are some lists/databases in there that should not be deleted, but few applications do that
[17:32] <elemeno_> Would anybody here be able to help me with directory structure on creating my first .deb package?
[17:33] <soee_> Walex: i have only gitlab installed on that server and it run out of space and /var dir takes ~ 6 GB
[17:34] <Walex> soee_: most likely you can just do it. try 'du -m --max-depth=3 /var | sort -n | tail -10' to see where most of the space has gone
[17:35] <Walex> soee_: it will be mostly logs I suspect
[17:37] <nacc> elemeno_: there are pacaking specific channels iirc
[17:38] <elemeno_> nacc: Such as?
[17:39] <elemeno_> I tried this one since I'm using Ubuntu, but if there's something more spcific then that's great
[17:40] <elemeno_> nacc: Nevermind, I found #ubuntu-packaging
[17:47] <lio> hi! anybody who would help me with systemd service error?
[17:48] <Jordan_U> lio: Just ask your actual question and if anyone thinks they can help they'll chime in.
[17:50] <lio> ok, I have a systemd service executing nodejs app, but when I start the service I get an error
[17:50] <lio> Process: 12082 ExecStart=/usr/bin/nodejs . (code=exited, status=200/CHDIR)
[17:50] <lio>  Main PID: 12082 (code=exited, status=200/CHDIR)
[17:50] <lio> Process: 12082 ExecStart=/usr/bin/nodejs . (code=exited, status=200/CHDIR)
[17:51] <nacc> lio: uh, what does '.' mean to a systemd process?
[17:51] <lio> https://thepasteb.in/p/pghQmW7WmpAFR
[17:52] <lio> . is current directory
[17:52] <nacc> lio: i know what '.' is
[17:52] <lio> I set WorkingDirectory=/var/www/app
[17:52] <nacc> lio: what is '.' to systemd?
[17:52] <nacc> lio: is working directory == current directory?
[17:53] <lio> yep
[17:53] <nacc> lio: where do you see that documented (I don't even see it in the manpage on 17.04)
[17:54] <lio> well it's the same if I put there /var/www/app insted of the dot
[17:55] <lio> I mean the same error
[17:55] <Jordan_U> lio: ls -ld /var/www/app/
[17:56] <nacc> lio: does the directory exist?
[17:57] <lio> $ ls -ld /var/www/app
[17:57] <mikeymop> emacs dired mode? thats new to me
[17:57] <lio> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 28 17:56 /var/www/app
[17:57] <lio> yep
[18:00] <lio> it's actually working if I run it from terminal
[18:00] <lio> $ sudo /usr/bin/node .
[18:00] <lio> server listening on port 81!
[18:01] <lio> but it is not working with the service
[18:02] <lio> I run the service by this:
[18:02] <lio> sudo systemctl daemon-reload
[18:02] <lio> sudo systemctl start app
[18:07] <lio> don't have idea what's wrong there :-(
[18:07] <lio> status:
[18:07] <lio> https://thepasteb.in/p/nZhlv2WGoWEfY
[18:11] <Violinist> is there a memcached-tools package?
[18:11] <Jordan_U> lio: Please pastebin your /etc/systemd/system/app.service .
[18:11] <nacc> !info memcached-tools | Violinist
[18:12] <Violinist> no the script is called memcached-tool
[18:12] <lio> @Jordan_U: here it is:
[18:12] <lio> https://thepasteb.in/p/Vmh036Zg53xt4
[18:12] <nacc> Violinist: then why didn't you just ask that?
[18:12] <Violinist> is there a way to get it from apt
[18:12] <Violinist> rather than download
[18:12] <nacc> Violinist: in 17.04, no such file exists in any package
[18:13] <Violinist> sux
[18:15] <Jordan_U> lio: echo $NODE_ENV
[18:16] <Jordan_U> Violinist: What is the advantage of memcached-tool over memcstat?
[18:18] <lio> @Jordan_U: it's empty
[18:18] <lio> $ echo $NODE_ENV
[18:18] <lio> outputs just one empty line
[18:18] <Violinist> umm the memcached-tool actually comes with memcached
[18:18] <Violinist> its just not in bin
[18:19] <Violinist> /usr/share/memcached/scripts/memcached-tool
[18:19] <Violinist> here is it
[18:20] <Jordan_U> lio: OK. What happens if you run "cd /var/www/app/ && sudo NODE_ENV=production /usr/bin/node ." ?
[18:21] <lio> it runs:
[18:21] <lio> server listening on port 81!
[18:24] <Violinist> Jordan_U, what is memcstat
[18:24] <Violinist> is is good
[18:24] <Violinist> ?
[18:25] <Jordan_U> Violinist: I don't know other than it's a tol available in the libmemcached-tools package.
[18:25] <Jordan_U> s/tol/tool/
[18:29] <lio> Jordan_U: it works fine from command line but doesn't work by running it as the systemd service
[18:30] <gideon_> h
[18:31] <gideon> ...........................
[18:32] <nacc> gideon: stop that please
[18:32] <nacc> Violinist: ah sorry, you're right, i hadn't updated my `apt-file` cache
[18:34] <Violinist> lel
[18:34] <Violinist> ok now i cant find itemsize
[18:34] <Violinist> this used to show in stats
[18:34] <Violinist> i guess the packages vary from distro
[18:36] <lio> tried to remove User=root and Group=root but the error is the same
[18:36] <lio> tried to replace the . by /var/www/app and the same error
[18:38] <lio> tried to remove WorkingDirectory=/var/www/app and got different error:
[18:38] <lio> https://thepasteb.in/p/k5hY9jwvm35cE
[18:39] <lio> status=1/FAILURE instead of the status=200/CHDIR
[18:39] <lio> but it's obvious since the working directory is not set
[18:40] <lio> don't know what I should check next
[18:40] <Jordan_U> lio: When you run your app manually does it stay in the foreground or does it fork and exit?
[18:40] <cash> https://pastebin.com/z1gba7GM
[18:40] <cash> https://pastebin.com/z1gba7GM
[18:40] <fiberbaby> I'm looking for a tool that can create SHA-1 checksums?
[18:40] <nacc> fiberbaby: sha1sum ?
[18:40] <Jordan_U> fiberbaby: sha1sum /path/to/file
[18:40] <lio> Jordan_U: it stays - block the terminal until I press ctrl+c
[18:41] <fiberbaby> Jordan_U, nacc I'm looking for a non cli tool
[18:41] <Jordan_U> fiberbaby: What is your end goal?
[18:41] <Jsier> Can anyone help with problems installing ubuntu? I'm not to this OS and previously had Mint installed, but now I can't install ubuntu because Mint is still on my bootloader
[18:42] <fiberbaby> I want an easy to use tool that can create SHA-1 checksums and check files
[18:42] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Did you already go through installing Ubuntu with the live system?
[18:43] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: No. I just deleted the Linux Mint partitions and now when I try to install Ubuntu, I get stuck on failed to install on /dev/sda
[18:43] <lio> Is there any log or something I can check to figure out what's happening with the service, or just the erro "200/CHDIR" is all I can get from systemd ?
[18:44] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: So you're running the Ubuntu live system and the error occurs there? When you're running Ubiquity?
[18:44] <ppf> lio: journalctl -u $UNIT
[18:44] <ppf> lio: if the units logs to the journal
[18:44] <lio> ppf:  $ journalctl -u app
[18:44] <lio> No journal files were found.
[18:45] <fiberbaby> so is there an easy to use Ubuntu app that can create SHA-1 checksums?
[18:45] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: Correct. I'm on Ubuntu currently, but when I try to Install it, it fails at installing on /dev/sda.
[18:45] <Pici> fiberbaby: sha1sum
[18:45] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: The error it gives me is bootloader install failed.
[18:46] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Ah, let's see what's going on. Is wiping out the entire disk an option or do you have other partitions you'd like to keep?
[18:46] <fiberbaby> Pici, I said easy to use
[18:46] <ppf> lio: what service is it?
[18:46] <Pici> fiberbaby: I'm not sure whats hard about typing:  sha1sum yourfilename
[18:46] <nacc> fiberbaby: literally you type the command and a filename
[18:46] <nacc> fiberbaby: how much easier do you want it to be?
[18:46] <fiberbaby> you don't understand
[18:46] <DrosteEffect> ^ Kind of have to agree. If that's hard for you, then I'm not sure why you'd use Linux.
[18:47] <Pici> fiberbaby: explain it to us then
[18:47] <nacc> fiberbaby: you haven't explained your problem
[18:47] <fiberbaby> I don't know how to give the path to where the file is stored even
[18:47] <lio> ppf: app.service
[18:47] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: Wiping the entire disk isn't an option. I have the partitions for Ubuntu on my D drive, but I wanted to dual install it with Windows 10. I previously had Linux Mint running along with it on my bootloader, but now I am not able to install the Ubuntu bootloader.
[18:47] <nacc> fiberbaby: ... you don't know what file you wan to get the sha1 sum of?
[18:48] <DrosteEffect> fiberbaby: Or is that you don't know how to type a Linux path?
[18:48] <lio> ppf: I tried that previously, but there are no journals
[18:48] <fiberbaby> DrosteEffect, right
[18:48] <DrosteEffect> fiberbaby: Are you coming from Windows?
[18:48] <fiberbaby> uh huh
[18:48] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Are you using a UEFI or BIOS-based boot?
[18:49] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: UEFI
[18:49] <DrosteEffect> fiberbaby: Do you know how to type a Windows file path?
[18:49] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Can you run "sudo fdisk -l" and post the results?
[18:49] <Jordan_U> Jsier: Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveUSB, run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript , and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[18:49] <fiberbaby> yes I do
[18:50] <notReallyZenox> so, i've set up a vmware ubuntu machine, and am now trying to connect to it - i've installed polipo on it - but each time i get connection refused. where can i see in the logs why this connection is refused?
[18:50] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: Disk /dev/loop0: 1.5 GiB, 1609039872 bytes, 3142656 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x1b571474  Device       Boot   Start     End Sectors  Size Id Type /dev/loop0p1 *          0 3142655 3142656  1.5G  0 Empty /dev/loop0p2      3118960 3123567    4608  2.3M ef EFI (FAT-1
[18:50] <realHans> Hi. I have a very old iMAC 6,1 late 2006. I never had one before. Can someone point me to a description how to install ubuntu ?
[18:50] <DrosteEffect> fiberbaby: Linux is the same without the C:/ in the beginning, and you reverse all the slashes. Put the path in quotes if there are spaces in any of the directories or the file.
[18:50] <ChadTaljaardt> Hi
[18:51] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Could you use gist.github.com for pastes? Much easier to read.
[18:51] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: Yes I can
[18:51] <DrosteEffect> fiberbaby: And you start with /. I meant "C:\" not "C:/". Damn Windows
[18:51] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Jsier
[18:52] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: My bad. Use their paste link next time.
[18:52] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0be9bed73cf8f29dd1d3243b3375ce2f
[18:53] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Can you describe the process you're taking for running the Ubiquity installer, like the options you're choosing at each part?
[18:53] <fiberbaby> thanks DrosteEffect
[18:54] <Jordan_U> DrosteEffect: gist.github.com is fine too, I just hadn't seen that you had already mentioned it.
[18:54] <notReallyZenox> ls
[18:54] <notReallyZenox> duh!
[18:55] <ppf> lio: and what's app?
[18:55] <ppf> can you paste the unit file?
[18:55] <ppf> (on a train currently, spotty connection...)
[18:55] <lio> I've replaced the /usr/bin/node with /bin/node and got
[18:55] <lio> Process: 12965 ExecStart=/bin/cat /var/www/app (code=exited, status=200/CHDIR)
[18:55] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: I downloaded Ubuntu onto an external hard drive. Booted from the external hard drive and am on the Ubuntu desktop. I started the Ubuntu installation and it didn't give me the option to install alongside Windows 10 like Linux Mint did. I chose the option "Do Something Else" then created the partitions for home, swap, and root. Began the rest of the install and it got stuck on failed to install bootloader on /dev/sda
[18:55] <lio> the same error, so it's probably not connected with the node itself
[18:56] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Did it give you any choice for the bootloader at all?
[18:56] <lio> ppf: yep, current version:
[18:56] <DrosteEffect> Usually it's at the bottom of the screen where you select the other partitions, if it's available at all.
[18:57] <lio> https://thepasteb.in/p/zmh86ZrDXVxFZ
[18:57] <Violinist> ummm how come memcached doesnt show in nmap
[18:57] <Violinist> like others
[18:58] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: It did, and I chose the option to install it on the same area as I chose for Linux mint where my Windows bootloader is located. I'm not sure if its a failure on my part to remove the other bootloader, because when I try to boot from the other Linux Mint bootloader, it takes me to the GRUB screen with only command options.
[18:58] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Hold up one second. I'm a bit confused about your devices now that I'm re-reading your fdisk. You have one 465 GiB drive and one 931.5 GiB drive. Is one internal and one extenral?
[18:59] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: Both are internal. I have the partitions for Ubuntu on the 931.5GiB drive and I tried to install the bootloader on the 465GiB drive.
[19:00] <lio> if I remove the WorkingDirectory then it runs
[19:00] <lio> Apr 28 18:58:15 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Started Server backend.
[19:00] <lio> Apr 28 18:58:15 raspberrypi cat[13042]: /bin/cat: /var/www/app: Is a directory
[19:00] <lio> Apr 28 18:58:15 raspberrypi systemd[1]: app.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
[19:00] <lio> Apr 28 18:58:15 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Unit app.service entered failed state.
[19:00] <aaftm> hi all
[19:00] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: I had the Ubuntu .iso located on an external hard drive that I booted from
[19:00] <lio> so the systemd somehow can't access the working directory
[19:00] <lio> but why??
[19:01] <lio> the working directory exists
[19:02] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: So you're trying to put Grub on the drive with Windows and then have it boot Ubuntu from your other drive?
[19:02] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Which partition did Linux Mint use to be on?
[19:03] <ppf> lio: yeah, what's that even supposed to do?
[19:03] <ppf> lio: and, what does that error message tell you?
[19:04] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: Correct. Linux Mint used to have the home, root, and swap partitions on my D drive. During the Linux Mint install it gave me the option to Install with Windows 10 Bootloader on my C drifve.
[19:04] <lio> ppf: it's just the test that systemd works. If I put there /bin/ls then it works - so I have a working service which list the directory
[19:05] <ppf> lio: systemd works ...
[19:05] <ppf> !xy | lio
[19:05] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: So was Grub booting Mint? Did you select the Windows bootloader from Grub when you wanted to use Windows? Sorry, not super familiar with Windows setups.
[19:06] <ppf> ha i didn't even expect that to work! is that factoid new?
[19:06] <Jsier> During booting, I had to press f11 to choose where to boot from.  I gives me the option to boot from Windows Bootloader first, followed by ubuntu. Both are located on the same C Drive. However, when I selected ubuntu it takes me to nowhere and I have to restart.
[19:07] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: During booting, I had to press f11 to choose where to boot from.  I gives me the option to boot from Windows Bootloader first, followed by ubuntu. Both are located on the same C Drive. However, when I selected ubuntu it takes me to nowhere and I have to restart.
[19:07] <lio> yeah, and now, If I add WorkingDirectory there, the service does not work and ends with the 200/CHDIR error!
[19:07] <hemantx> @search the five love languages
[19:07] <ppf> lio: which working dir, which error
[19:08] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Oh, I see. Okay, create a new directory anywhere, maybe at /mnt/boot in the Ubuntu live installation, and run "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot". Go into that directory and send what's there.
[19:09] <lio> ppf: see this unit:
[19:09] <lio> https://thepasteb.in/p/MjhxX1Y5O5riV
[19:11] <lio> the problems is caused just by adding the working directory. I wanted to have nodejs service having working dir in /var/www/app but was getting the error 200/CHDIR.
[19:11] <ioria> Jsier, where 's your ubuntu ? on /dev/sdb ?
[19:11] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: I am sorry, I am not too familiar with how to do that. I'm brand new to this and don't know how to do that.
[19:12] <Jsier> ioria: The partitions for it are on /dev/sdb but I wanted the bootloader on /sda alongside my windowsbootloader
[19:12] <lio> I thought it was an error in my nodejs service but ti wasn't because if I replaced the nodejs with just /bin/ls /var/ww/app it doesn't work too. Started to work if I commented the WorkingDirectory
[19:12] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: That's okay. Do "sudo mkdir /mnt/boot", then "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot" "ls -l /mnt/boot".
[19:12] <ioria> Jsier, if so, you installed in bios-mode, not efi
[19:12] <ppf> lio: can you paste ls -alh please
[19:13] <DrosteEffect> ioria: He's writing to the ESP on /dev/sda so the label on the other drives doesn't matter.
[19:13] <ArchaicLord> hi all. just wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a tool to help manage rss feeds that would be compatible in linux and windos
[19:13] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: total 1 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1024 Apr 26 18:27 EFI
[19:13] <lio> https://thepasteb.in/p/mwh1z3qR0PBu5
[19:13] <lio> it's here ^^
[19:14] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Now do "ls -l /mnt/boot/EFI".
[19:14] <ppf> lio: is /var/www a network mount or something?
[19:15] <lio> ppf:
[19:16] <lio> https://thepasteb.in/p/NxhV78pjKNVIN
[19:16] <lio> ppf: ^^^
[19:16] <ppf> lio: what's /dev/root
[19:16] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: https://pastebin.com/2ZjvFkfb
[19:17] <ppf> 200/CHDIR means systemd can't enter that directory when the service starts
[19:17] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: So the reason it's not doing anything is that the setup never create a Grub configruation file. We'll have to figure out why that is. I'm doing some more research now about booting across disks, which isn't the typical setup. I'll get back to you in a minute.
[19:18] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: I appreciate the help, thank you.
[19:18] <DrosteEffect> Any time.
[19:18] <ioria> Jsier,  maybe a recursive ls -R will show the content
[19:18] <lio> ppf: the /dev/root is sdcard
[19:19] <Jsier> ioria: What would the full command be?
[19:19] <ioria> Jsier,  the same with  -lR
[19:19] <lio> so the systemd needs to wait for mounting it before running the service? How I could configure that?
[19:19] <ppf> is it a device that's mounted with a delay?
[19:20] <lio> well how I can find it out?
[19:20] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: The Grub configuration should have been in a grub folder at the root of the ESP anyways.
[19:20] <Jsier> ioria: https://pastebin.com/jedHmNXY
[19:20] <DrosteEffect> ioria: (Meant for this to go to you) The Grub configuration should have been in a grub folder at the root of the ESP anyways.
[19:21] <ppf> lio: in that case, e.g. using RequiresMountsFor=
[19:21] <ioria> DrosteEffect, ok
[19:21] <fdkj83425> an app i installed in Software Center had OnlyShowIn=GNOME in its .desktop file and confused the heck out of me when i looked for it in the Dash
[19:21] <ppf> lio: maybe ConditionPathExists=
[19:22] <fdkj83425> i was able to unhide it but i feel like the average user (Ubuntu's target user base) wouldn't know how to do that
[19:23] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: The best bet is to manually fix the Grub configuration after the install. Did the installer complete other than the failed bootloader? Like is everything else there?
[19:23] <nacc> fdkj83425: feel free to file a bug
[19:23] <nacc> !bug | fdkj83425
[19:24] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: I'm still on the install portion. It gives me the option to A) Choose a different device to install the bootloader on B) Continue without the bootloader C) Cancel the installation
[19:24] <laxer> I am installing a package via unattended-upgrades, which is failing, resulting in a 'half-configured' state. Is there another channel where intricacies of apt/dpkg/UA might be discussed?
[19:25] <ioria> Jsier,  16.04 right ? or 14.04 ?
[19:25] <Jsier> ioria: 17.04 I believe
[19:25] <ioria> Jsier,  ok
[19:25] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Continue without bootloader. Don't let it reboot at the end.
[19:26] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: Okay, ill finish the installation.
[19:26] <lio> ppf: https://thepasteb.in/p/JZhpZvoL4wzIg
[19:26] <lio> tried RequiresMountsFor=/var/www/app
[19:26] <lio> tried RequiresMountsFor=/
[19:26] <nacc> laxer: sort of by definition, "you" are not installing a package if you are using u-a. What package failed? What is the message when it fails (use a pastebin)
[19:26] <lio> tried RequiresMountsFor=/mnt
[19:27] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: It's not letting me continue past "Continue without a bootloader" once I hit okay.
[19:27] <lio> tried RequiresMountsFor=/mnt
[19:27] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Figured that might happen. Close it out and run from Terminal "sudo ubiquity --no-bootloader".
[19:27] <DrosteEffect> It shouldn't even ask about the bootloader then.
[19:27] <lio> tried ConditionPathExists=/var/www/app
[19:27] <lio> none is working
[19:27] <laxer> nacc: sorry, poor wording choice there. It's my own package. I have a (very) detailed debug log from dpkg I can send your way.
[19:27] <lio> the same error
[19:27] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: Choose "Cancel the installation" instead?
[19:27] <DrosteEffect> Yup.
[19:28] <laxer> nacc: I believe the problem lies somewhere in the postinstall script.
[19:28] <nacc> laxer: if you can patsebin it, i cna take a look
[19:28] <laxer> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24474799/
[19:28] <lio> ppf: but when I reload the daemon: sudo systemctl daemon-reload and then check status I got
[19:28] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: Won't let me quit out of the install either.
[19:28] <lio> Apr 28 19:25:53 raspberrypi systemd[1]: [/etc/systemd/system/app.service:7] Unknown lvalue 'ConditionPathExists' in section 'Service'
[19:29] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: You can just reboot and start from scratch.
[19:29] <lio> but when I start the service I got the 200/CHDIR
[19:29] <Jsier> Alright. Ill reboot and be back in a moment.
[19:29] <laxer> To summarize, U-A will fire, start the update, and sort of silently fail. A 'dpkg --configure -a' will fix things. I'm trying to understand why exactly it's not installing properly in the first place.
[19:29] <lio> so still the same error :-(
[19:29] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Just don't open Ubiquity with its icon. Go to the live installation and run "sudo ubiquity --no-bootloader".
[19:29] <laxer> nacc: sorry, forgot to mention you in my last message.
[19:30] <fdkj83425> the application's name in the SC is Gnome Books and I can execute it in the Terminal with "gnome-books" but I can't find it's package name to report a bug
[19:30] <Jsier> DrosteEffect: So choose the "Install Ubuntu 17.04" desktop icon?
[19:30] <Tomato_> Hello there, could someone recommend a printer compatible with my ubuntu software? Brother brand doesn't work
[19:31] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: Nope, open up Terminal and run from there.
[19:31]  * fdkj83425 found it. it's gnome-documents
[19:31] <Jsier> DrosteEffect:   Okay, I'll reboot and be back.
[19:33] <DrosteEffect> Jsier: I'll be back in a minute.
[19:34] <angrybread> do you know if there is a font that replicates the characters used on the old dec pdp terminals?
[19:35] <nacc> laxer: looking
[19:36] <laxer2> nacc: got disconnected, thanks for looking.
[19:36] <nacc> laxer2: so that log is really verbose, i meant more what error dpkg reported
[19:36] <nacc> laxer2: because a cursory search in that log doesn't actually show many errors
[19:37] <laxer2> nacc: yeah, that's what has me stumped. U-A/dpkg/apt doesn't throw any errors. The only way I was alerted it to was by missing files from my update, and running dpkg --audit
[19:37] <nacc> laxer2: oh you actually got no errors?
[19:38] <nacc> laxer2: does the package succeed to install if you manually install it?
[19:38] <laxer2> nacc: the package will install fine through apt-get install, running unattended-upgrades manually, or doing dpkg -i
[19:38] <nacc> laxer2: hrm, that is strange -- is maybe a debconf prompt being thrown up ?
[19:39] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Okay I rebooted. How would I go about running it with the terminal?
[19:40] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: How did you run those other commands before?
[19:40] <lio> I moved the ConditionPathExiststo [Unit] section from [Service] section. This caused the "Unknown lvalue 'ConditionPathExists' in section 'Service'" message.
[19:41] <lio> but still doesn't work
[19:41] <laxer2> nacc: Yes, it's quite strange. I have the system in the problem state right now, I ran the postinstall script -x from /var/lib/dpkg/info, and this is what it spits out: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24474931/
[19:41] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: From the terminal. I meant what command output should I give to run the installation.
[19:41] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: You all squared away ?
[19:41] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Oh, gotcha. "sudo ubiquity --no-bootloader"
[19:42] <lio> ppf:  https://thepasteb.in/p/76hElKYGoYOHV
[19:42] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Perfect. The installation started. Should I follow it all the way through?
[19:42] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Yup, just don't let it shutdown when it's done.
[19:42] <lio> ppf: the unit:  https://thepasteb.in/p/BghPjrNW5LkhY
[19:42] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Let me know when it's done and we'll do the next part to fix the Grub configuration.
[19:43] <nacc> laxer2: strange, what version of ubuntu?
[19:43] <lio> tried RequiresMountsFor= and ConditionPathExists= with /, /mnt, /dev/root, /var/www/app
[19:44] <lio> simply does not work :-(
[19:44] <lio> systemd is weird
[19:44] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: I have the options to A) Reinstall Ubuntu B) Erase Ubuntu and re-install C) Install Ubuntu alongside Ubuntu D) Erase Disk and Install or E) Do something else. I already have the partitions created for Ubuntu from the last attempt at installing.
[19:44] <leftcase> @lio systemd is 'orrible ;-)
[19:45] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Use D. Do all the same stuff you did before with installing it. It won't error out because it's not going to try to install the bootloader.
[19:45] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: No, not D!
[19:45] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Sorry, I meant E. Definitely don't use D :P
[19:45] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: No worries, I'll choose E.
[19:46] <lio> leftcase: :-) yeah
[19:46] <lio> so I give up
[19:46] <nacc> laxer2: tbh, i'd file a bug
[19:46] <ppf> systemd's awesome :)
[19:46] <lio> several hours trying to run simple nodejs server as a systemd service
[19:46] <lio> no way
[19:46] <Violinist> oh glad we want to talk system d
[19:47] <ppf> lio: something's up with your app directory. if you remove the WorkingDirectory=, what's the output of the unit
[19:47] <Violinist> ok so is /etc/init.d systemd?
[19:47] <lio> ppf: list of the directory
[19:47] <leftcase> uh oh, I didn't mean to spawn a systemd discussion. It's like discussing religion or politics :-D
[19:47] <laxer2> nacc: this is on 16.04.1
[19:47] <ppf> Violinist: no, but systemd transparently integrates sysv init scripts
[19:47] <ppf> lio: paste please
[19:47] <ppf> journalctl -u app
[19:48] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Should I delete and recreate the home, root, and swap partitions?
[19:48] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Yeah, might as well. They might have finished completely when you did it the first time, but we have no way of knowing because it errored out. Might as well just do it again.
[19:48] <lio> ppf: if I get back to the nodejs then it would run the service but not with the right working dir, so all relative writes to files would end with an error, exception and disaster
[19:49] <ppf> yes, one problem at a time
[19:50] <lio> ppf: /bin/ls working without the WorkingDirectory set in the unit: https://thepasteb.in/p/mwh1z3qNPqks5
[19:51] <nacc> laxer2: i assume you mean full updated 16.04 with the 16.04.1 kernel?
[19:51] <lio> ppf: the output was for the unit: https://thepasteb.in/p/GZhWkR94LqKhV
[19:52] <lio> ppf: uncomenting the working dir causes 200/CHDIR error
[19:52] <laxer2> nacc: correct.
[19:52] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Its copying files and installing now
[19:53] <nacc> laxer2: ok, yeah -- i'm not seeing anything obvious, i'd file a bug against u-a
[19:53] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Sounds good.
[19:54] <Purva> Well, I'm a newcomer here. Can anyone tell me what this place is for?
[19:56] <fdkj83425> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-documents/+bug/1687101
[19:56] <fdkj83425> bug filed :)
[19:57] <laxar> nacc: Thanks for your help, I will look into filing a bug.
[19:57] <Bashing-om> Purva: Hello. welcome to ubuntu support . see the channel topic ( type /topic ) .
[19:58] <Purva> So, this is a Support Channel?
[19:59] <ppf> Purva: yes
[19:59] <Bashing-om> Purva: More precise it is ubuntu support channel .
[19:59] <Purva> Thanks for replying
[20:00] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Finished Installing
[20:00] <Purva> Nothing for me here for now; might log on later.
[20:04] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Is there anything else I should do?
[20:05] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Yup, sorry for the delay.
[20:05] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Next step is to run a few more things in Terminal. Let me pull up the commands you need because I don't know them off the top of my head.
[20:06] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Awesome, much appreciated.
[20:08] <ntbg> On Xenial 16.04 amd64 in a chroot environment based on the same, I am receiving an error when I execute 'apt-get install qtbase5-dev-tools:armhf': The following packages have unmet dependencies: qtbase5-dev-tools:armhf : Depends: perl:armhf but it is not going to be installed. So I ran: 'apt-get install perl:armhf', which reported:  perl:armhf : Depends: perl-base:armhf (= 5.22.1-9) but it is not going to be installed. Is there any way 
[20:08] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Okay, here goes. So first we need to mount the root partition of Ubuntu that you just created. What was the identifier for that again? I don't have your fdisk stuff up anymore.
[20:08] <ntbg> Or what is the proper way to resolve these dependencies. I feel like I need to '
[20:08] <ntbg> apt-get download pkg and force install with dpkg
[20:08] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Was it /mnt/boot? I believe thats what it was.
[20:09] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: That's for boot, not root.
[20:09] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: You can make a /mnt/root now.
[20:09] <DrosteEffect> ntbg: Did you do kernel bindings for the chrooted environment?
[20:09] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: I'm sorry, I dont remember how to pull up that identifier.
[20:10] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: "sudo fdisk -l", use gist.github.com again and post the results.
[20:11] <ntbg> DrosteEffect: You mean proc,sys,dev ? I'm using schroot. I'm assuming it took care of it. I enter the chroot by 'schroot -c xenial -u root'
[20:11] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ca128cf1880b0f46d3acf653f59fe457
[20:11] <DrosteEffect> ntbg: Yup. Never heard of schroot before but maybe it does that. Arch-chroot does it on Arch Linux.
[20:12] <ntbg> DrosteEffect: I just verified. Yes I have.
[20:12] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Is the 46.6 GB or the 151.7 GB partition the root partition?
[20:12] <ntbg> DrosteEffect: How can I get more information from the packaging system about what's going wrong?
[20:13] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: 46.6Gb
[20:13] <DrosteEffect> ntbg: You ran "apt update", right?
[20:13] <ntbg> DrosteEffect: For instance, it says "but it is not going to be installed" can I find out why?
[20:13] <ntbg> DrosteEffect: Yes I did.
[20:14] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Okay, so "sudo mkdir /mnt/root; sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/root"
[20:14] <DrosteEffect> ntbg: That I'm not sure about.
[20:15] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Nothing happened visibly in the terminal after that
[20:16] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Nothing was supposed to :P Next thing is to do what I was actually just talking about with ntbg, interestingly enough. We need to add kernel bindings and chroot into there so you're basically running the Terminal as if you're in your new system. Commands to follow.
[20:16] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt/root$i; done"
[20:17] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Enter that whole command as is between quotes?
[20:19] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Correct.
[20:19] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Perfect, I entered it all in.
[20:21] <DrosteEffect> Okay, now "sudo chroot /mnt/root"
[20:21] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr:
[20:22] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: And finished with that one as well.
[20:22] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: root@ubuntu:/#  Thats the option it gives me now.
[20:22] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: That's correct. Run "nano /etc/fstab" and post the results.
[20:23] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3e83c75bd9e34acda8e7631cfca35690
[20:24] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Good good. This should be pretty simple then. Run "fdisk -l" now. Just want to confirm that it can see your entire system. Everything should show up the same as before.
[20:26] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Apologies for if this might seem like an easy answer, how do I run a command from this menu? It gives me all of the options at the bottom to "get help" "write out" etc.
[20:28] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: You're still in Terminal, aren't you?
[20:28] <DrosteEffect> Oh, my bad! You never closed out of nano.
[20:28] <DrosteEffect> Sorry, I forgot to tell you to do that. Press control-X and press N not to save.
[20:29] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Yes. Ohh, okay. I'll do that now.
[20:29] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: It says permission denied for all /sda/sdb/sdc
[20:29] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Correction
[20:30] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: WIll post results now
[20:30] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2eef61a007419b7fcc88cad4e3c702ce
[20:32] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Good good. Okay, run "apt update; apt install grub-efi"
[20:32] <DrosteEffect> When it tells you that you have a bunch of upgrades, ignore them.
[20:33] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/233d25fbd093b301f597ba64b3742179
[20:34] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: You missed the second "apt" :P Run "apt install grub-efi"
[20:35] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: Oh jeez. Okay, finished that part now. Hit yes?
[20:35] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Is it just asking to install? If so, yup.
[20:36] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: And it just finished with the install.
[20:36] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: Just a warning, I have to go for a little bit at 5 if you want to exchange some other means of communication.
[20:36] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: (It is currently 4:36 my time)
[20:37] <Jsierr> DrosteEffect: That would be awesome. Im in the same time zone as you.
[20:37] <DrosteEffect> Jsierr: PM me!
[20:44] <anddam> anyone on my authentication issue in Settings > User Accounts?
[20:44] <anddam> oh jeez… I was actually typing it wrong
[20:45] <anddam> sorry for the noise
[20:45] <YankDownUnder> anddam: What's the issue?
[20:46] <grendal_prime> join #spice
[20:47] <grendal_prime> has anyone here ever added spice drivers to existing windes kvm guest?
[20:49] <ash_workz> why would `mkdir foo` say 'mkdir: cannot create directory `foo': Invalid argument'
[20:50] <bihi> Heey
[20:51] <YankDownUnder> ash_workz: That may be dependent on WHERE one is trying to create a directory...
[20:51] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: ? Declare it as a directory ' /foo ' ?
[20:51] <ash_workz> YankDownUnder: from my home directory
[20:52] <YankDownUnder> ash_workz: So it would generally be: mkdir Blarg => which would obviously make the directory "Blarg"
[20:52] <ash_workz> YankDownUnder: okay...
[20:52] <htafdresgi> so any ideas how to enable tty's on Ubuntu?
[20:52] <htafdresgi> 16.04+
[20:52] <ash_workz> YankDownUnder: mkdir: cannot create directory `Blarg': Invalid argument
[20:53] <YankDownUnder> ash_workz: Are you actually IN your ~/ directory? Type: pwd => that will tell you exactly where you are...
[20:53] <ash_workz> YankDownUnder: yes
[20:54] <ash_workz> I smell file system corruption
[20:54]  * YankDownUnder sniffs
[20:54] <Mrlol> hello
[20:55] <user10> how to save watched or temporary file on firefox?
[20:56] <FApfap> hello
[20:57] <FApfap> how are they?
[20:57] <anddam> YankDownUnder: I couldn't unlock the User Accounts settings, turns out I was typing a letter wrong
[20:57] <anddam> YankDownUnder: I could swear that was the right password, since I login quite often
[20:58] <mohl> http://imgur.com/a/POcaT Is it possible to hide the cursor from a nonactive pane in Terminator?
[20:58] <YankDownUnder> anddam: Ah...lack of coffee and focused attention on typing. Fair enough :)
[21:00] <anddam> well lack of coffee today could be
[21:10] <Mrlol> hello
[21:13] <Simplar> Hello! Why does upVEL WiFi USB Flash making Ubuntu 16.04 LTS freeze after insert? Thanks for an answer!
[21:16] <max3> if my /boot is on (hd0,gpt4) what is the linux /boot/vmlinuz... root=/dev/sda?? command for grub2?
[21:16] <max3> is it /dev/sda4?
[21:37] <cmb_> Any Thunderbird afficianados around? Having problems with a gone missing, newly created sub-folder...
[21:45] <YankDownUnder> cmb_: "Gone missing" - and you've checked "trash" along with restarting "Thunderbird" and all that other lovely stuff?
[21:47] <cmb_> Fuller story: created a new subfolder a couple of days ago, saved a couple of messages into it. It still shows up on the Exchange Server (via Outlook Web App) but not on the Thunderbird folder pane, nor in the files in ~/.thunderbird/jhfsdjhflsj.default/ImpaMail/AccountName/Folder/SubFolder
[21:48] <cmb_> So, missing!
[21:48] <cmb_> Feels like Thunderbird has messed up the synchronisation with the server somehow - perhaps force it to resync, but can't find an option to do that...
[21:49] <YankDownUnder> cmb_: Until you mentioned "Exchange", I was game to give this a shot...sorry, bro...have to leave that to someone that deals with "Exchange"...and that ain't me...
[21:51] <cmb_> YankDownUnder, am connecting to the Exchange Server over IMAP/SMTP, no fancy add-ons to make Thunderbird speak Exchange - sorry, that  is a key clarification!!
[21:52] <cmb_> And all been working fine for a couple of years, 2GB of email, several hundred folders/subfolders, and created new ones exactly as I did the other day... so confused!
[21:56] <ycyclist> So I just did an sudo apt-get update;apt-get -yf upgrade; apt-get autoremove on my new 16.04 install, and now my primary user won't log in with the console.  I can get in with ssh, but not with the console?
[21:57] <ycyclist> The symptom is I log in from the windows user/password prompt, but it gets me to an empty and unfunctioning desktop where nothing works, like the window manager didn't quite come up all the way.
[21:57] <ycyclist> Please advise.  I looked in /var/log/syslog.  Is there a better log to search?
[21:58] <ycyclist> Oh.  I did an apt-get dist-upgrade and rebooted and that apparently fixed it.  Sorry.
[21:59] <Bashing-om> ycyclist: :D
[21:59] <Zalabaslea> yeiye
[21:59] <Zalabaslea> ok
[22:01] <mach20x> Anyone here know the best place to talk about issues around a bad install of a graphic driver?
[22:02] <mach20x> happened after and update to 4.4.0-75
[22:02] <Bashing-om> mach20x: "talk about" is #ubuntu-offtopic . resolution to a problem in ubuntu is here .
[22:17] <zukizukito> how to speed up my boot time
[22:17] <zukizukito> kubuntu is taking much time to boot
[22:17] <GoldenDeal> ADMIN [#ubuntu]
[22:17] <GoldenDeal> ADMIN []
[22:18] <Bashing-om> zukizukito: Long good read : http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/systemd-blame.html to find out .
[22:18] <zukizukito> did systemd-blame
[22:27] <funkster> wireless device isn't named wlan0/1/2/3 anymore? just updated to newest ubuntu.
[22:28] <funkster> had a script that used wlan0 for a lot of things :(
[22:29] <Bashing-om> funkster: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ , Directions here also if ya must must revert .
[22:31] <funkster> Bashing-om: thanks! but it looks like wireless will always start with a 'w' , yah?
[22:32] <Bashing-om> funkster: I "think" that is correct . But I have no use case to base that on .
[22:33] <funkster> Bashing-om: gotcha thanks. ill look more into it.
[22:35] <Bashing-om> funkster: :) Have fun !
[22:35] <skinux> I'm having a hell of a time with Apache. It seems like Apache default installation is misconfigured.
[22:36] <skinux> You know, first off, let me ask...is Apache still recommended by Ubuntu or is it more nGinx now?
[22:37] <funkster> I'm going to be running a 24/7 full screen app on ubuntu desktop. Is there anything I should disable for notification or unexpected events to disrupt the application displaying on screen?
[22:37] <nacc> skinux: both are fine, apache2 is in main as is nginx
[22:37] <mcphail> skinux: apache is fully supported in Ubuntu, and the default configuration is taken from Debian. It does things the Debian way, which differs a little from a vanilla apache install
[22:38] <skinux> IF it's packaged for Ubuntu, why does it not do Ubuntu way instead of Debian way?
[22:39] <mcphail> Because the Debian way is very sensible, and doesn't need changed
[22:39] <nacc> Ubuntu's way is almost always Debian's way if possible :)
[22:44] <Violinist> debian is beter than ubuntu
[22:44] <skinux> Hmm. I'd just like to go back to default config with Apache, PHP, and FastCGI and see what happens.
[22:44] <nacc> !ot | Violinist
[22:44] <Violinist> skinux, use phpfpm
[22:45] <skinux> ACtually, documentation has said there are better way(s) than phpfpm now.
[22:46] <skinux> Well, no, still uses phpfpm, just not the same way.
[22:46] <Violinist> lkel
[22:52] <skinux> Violinist: FOr your info, PHP-FPM-7.0 is being used on my machine. So, you telling me to use it is not helpful information.
[22:52] <skinux> Not that you know what the actual problem(s) is anyway.
[22:52] <nacc> skinux: you haven't actually stated a problem afaict?
[22:53] <skinux> Well, it was page doesn't exist, but I fixed that and it's been server misconfiguration.
[22:54] <skinux> Here's the last Gist https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657#file-apache-m
[22:55] <nacc> skinux: what are the permissions on /var/lib/apache2/fastcgi ?
[22:57] <skinux> drwx------
[22:58] <skinux> I'm not even sure why it's trying to access it there.
[23:00] <nacc> skinux: you literally told it to
[23:00] <nacc> FastCgiIpcDir /var/lib/apache2/fastcgi
[23:00] <nacc> skinux: this feels more like PEBKAC or trolling tbh :)
[23:01] <skinux> No, I'm not trolling, just don't understand.
[23:01] <nacc> skinux: you told apache2 to use a IpcDir it can't write to
[23:01] <nacc> skinux: who owns that directory?
[23:01] <skinux> I probably copied that line of config from somewhere.
[23:01] <nacc> skinux: well, that was wrong to do, then
[23:01] <nacc> skinux: at least without some other configuration steps
[23:02] <nacc> skinux: need to step away for a bit, i'll be back in about 15 minutes
[23:02] <skinux> Does that config just need to point to the location of fastcgi executable?
[23:02] <tgm4883> O_O
[23:04] <Violinist> -.-
[23:13] <thundeer> imac. ubuntu 16.04 installed. I did a dist upgrade, gnome install and some additionel software. now it gets stuck at "started user manager at UID 121". i dont know how to force it to boot from the usb stick again. or what to at all. I can get a promt where its says "grub>", but input is laggy, and i have no clue what to do at the grub promt anyway, since grub doesnt seem to be the issue
[23:15] <Moppy> Hi there. Are there any known issues with an in-place upgrade of trusty to xenial? I don't really want to reinstall.
[23:16] <Bashing-om> Moppy: If fully updated, unsupported PPAs disabled, proprietary drivrers reverted, expect no issues .
[23:18] <thundeer> how do i force boot from usb on the imac? ubuntu is already installed, but it get stuck
[23:18] <skinux> Can anyone tell me how resource intensive it would be to have a basic email setup on localhost that would only send/recieve email on localhost (ust for use by scripts/software installed on the machine)?
[23:20] <howudodat> I've had two machines hosed by a recent mysql upgrade.  better to ask in here or at #mysql?
[23:20] <Moppy> Bashing-om: thanks
[23:21] <thundeer> howudodat, hosed?
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Moppy: :)
[23:22] <howudodat> root user got dropped from the db.  error messages in the logfile of "Could not create unix socket lock file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock.lock" and now my laptop is just hung at the upgrade
[23:22] <Moppy> skinux: A few small emails won't really be noticable.
[23:22] <howudodat> so I guess the machine is till good, but the mysql install isn't
[23:23] <skinux> I just mean resource needs of the server running even when idle
[23:24] <howudodat> on my desktop, I even moved the db data dir, dod a apt-get purge mysql-server and re-installed and mysql still wont start
[23:25] <Moppy> skinux: It's not going to add much. but you should install it on a spare system (perhaps a VM) and profile the system if you're concerned.
[23:25] <skinux> Eh, more effort than I want to put in. I just won't do it.
[23:26] <Moppy> skinux: i mean put it this way, even the raspberry pi is a usable email server :)
[23:26] <skinux> HAH!That's a mobile processor.
[23:29] <thundeer> howudodat, http://edusagar.com/articles/view/56/MySQL-Restoring-accidently-deleted-root-user-password
[23:30] <thundeer> howudodat, normally you shouldnt run mysql on your host. and normally you should ad a user with root priviliges.
[23:32] <howudodat> thundeer: yes I am doing something very similar to that, however I cant run mysqld safe.  thats when I get the could not create lock file
[23:32] <nacc> skinux: you don't really need to set anything up to send mail purely locally
[23:32] <nacc> skinux: and it's not resource intensive at all
[23:33] <nacc> skinux: did you figure out your apache2 issue?
[23:33] <skinux> Not yet
[23:33] <nacc> skinux: ok, so do you know what FastCgiIpcDir specifies?
[23:33] <slim> #quit
[23:33] <skinux> I changed permissions of that fastcgi file to 644, but it didn't help.
[23:34] <nacc> skinux: what "file"?
[23:35] <skinux>  /var/lib/apache2/fastcgi
[23:35] <nacc> skinux: that's a directory
[23:35] <nacc> skinux: again, do you know what what FastCgiIpcDir specifies?
[23:35] <howudodat> thundeer: so I took a draconian step and did apt-get purge mysql-server and then did apt-get install mysql-server.  it's clear to me the install didn't run.  It didn't create the directories needed in /var/lib/mysql*
[23:35] <skinux> Yes, just managed to look it up.
[23:36] <skinux> It needs 775 at the least
[23:36] <skinux> Or maybe it's 755
[23:36] <nacc> skinux: ok, so you set a value in a config file without know what it was (until just now)
[23:36] <nacc> skinux: that is terrible
[23:36] <nacc> skinux: and is absolutely not how you manage a service
[23:36] <skinux> I didn't set that config, I believe I copied it.
[23:36] <nacc> skinux: what do you think copying is?
[23:36] <nacc> skinux: you are writing to the config file
[23:37] <nacc> skinux: so *you* set it in the config
[23:37] <skinux> I'm just trying to get the server on my machine to work, I didn't claim to be a pro administrator.
[23:38] <thundeer> howudodat, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20492371/cant-start-mysqld-on-centos-because-i-cant-find-mysql-sock#27327349
[23:39] <thundeer> howudodat, centos. but it looks promising. I guess what you are after is your data.
[23:40] <thundeer> howudodat, ooh.. I understand now. you did a backup. so your data is safe. so there is two problems. the daemon wont start, and the root user is missing in the db?
[23:42] <nacc> skinux: anything you do as root should be understood
[23:42] <oerheks> "Password behavior when the MySQL root password is empty has changed." https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.7
[23:44] <howudodat> thundeer: I think the problem goes deeper than that.  The first symptom was that the upgrade was hung.  (It still is hung on my laptop).  then eventually the upgrade crashed and the upgrade tool prompted a reboot.  upon reboot mysql -u root didn't work.  investigation showed that the root user was missing.  so off to run mysql in safe mode with skip-grant-tables and thats when the could not create lockfile error showed up.  so then I c
[23:44] <howudodat> opied off the data dir and did a purge.  I finally got it all purged (so I thought) and now re-installing fails with mysqld: Can't read dir of '/etc/mysql/conf.d/' (Errcode: 2 - No such file or directory)
[23:45] <skinux> nacc: Okay, so I need to change the config to a location that it can write to.
[23:45] <skinux> I prefer to use standard locations, so where would be a standard location?
[23:46] <Ben64> howudodat: sudo mkdir /etc/mysql/conf.d
[23:46] <howudodat> Ben64: it's actually already there: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root     4096 Apr 28 16:39 mysql
[23:47] <Ben64> howudodat: uh that's not the same
[23:47] <howudodat> and, drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 28 16:39 mysql.conf.d
[23:48] <nacc> skinux: why are you specifying it at all?
[23:48] <skinux> Because I thought I had to configure it.
[23:48] <nacc> skinux: why did you think that?
[23:49] <skinux> Why do you think?
[23:49] <thundeer> howudodat, im wating for someone to help me.
[23:50] <thundeer> :D
[23:50] <howudodat> so why is it trying to read from conf.d?  it's always read from mysql.conf.d
[23:50] <thundeer> howudodat, a virtual machine maybe?
[23:50] <howudodat> and why didn't the installler create that dir?
[23:50] <skinux> Think I fixed that by commenting it out. Now, for some reason localhost is not a valid host name.
[23:51] <howudodat> thundeer, no this is happening on my desktop / development machine as well as my laptop
[23:51] <nacc> skinux: alright, I feel like you don't really want help at this point. Good luck.
[23:52] <skinux> You said I didn't need to configure it, so i removed it.
[23:52] <nacc> skinux: I asked why you thought you needed to configure that. Rather than answer, you asked me what I thought. I consider that a non-answer and I asked for a reason.
[23:53] <skinux> I probably found it in documentation or something.
[23:53] <thundeer> thundeer, okay. so you have the same problem on two different machines?
[23:53] <funkster> I'm going to be running a 24/7 full screen app on ubuntu desktop. Is there anything I should disable for notification or unexpected events to disrupt the application displaying on screen?
[23:54] <nacc> skinux: again, you are doing things as root on your system. You should know what you are doing and why.
[23:54] <nacc> skinux: honestly, "i found it in documentation or something" comes across as so vague that it means you really don't care
[23:54] <skinux> It means I don't remember where I got the idea to put it there.
[23:55] <skinux> I can't give you an answer that I don't have.
[23:55] <nacc> skinux: right, and again, as *root* on your system, that is never an adequate response
[23:56] <skinux> Well, if Apache runs as root, then I guess so;
[23:56] <nacc> skinux: you are editing the files as what user?
[23:56] <nacc> skinux: apache does not run as root
[23:56] <skinux> Well, then, then I don't know how I'm doing things as root;
[23:57] <ChaiTRex> funkster: In Software & Updates, set Automatically check for updates to Never. There's probably some way to disable error report submission notifications. I'm not sure how to turn off the small notifications that go away after a few seconds. There may be other things.
[23:57] <nacc> skinux: where is your 'fastcgi.conf' ?
[23:57] <skinux> Are you more interested in critisizing me or in helping me solve the issue at hand?
[23:57] <skinux> It is at /etc/apache2/mods-available
[23:57] <nacc> skinux: i'm trying to make it so you can actually understand what you did wrong
[23:57] <nacc> skinux: which is only writeable by root, by default
[23:58] <skinux> Well, where should I put it then?
[23:58] <nacc> skinux: that is the right place -- my point is you are doing things as *root*
[23:58] <nacc> skinux: that means you need to know what you are doing
[23:58] <skinux> Okay. In other words, you're saying go read the documentation. Thanks for the help.
[23:59] <thundeer> howudodat, https://hub.docker.com/_/mysql/
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