[00:49] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 17.10 - i386 - i386 built.
[01:08] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 17.10 - amd64 - amd64 built.
[06:29] <flocculant> pleia2: at some point talk about fb with you
[06:29] <flocculant> and thanks 
[09:19] <Unit193> Wasn't 1619835 fixed?
[09:19] <knome> bug 1619835
[09:19] <ubottu> bug 1619835 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Desktop icon labels are offset" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1619835
[09:19] <knome> yes, i remember it being
[09:20] <knome> but then i don't use desktop icons so i have no actual idea
[09:21] <Unit193> I don't use Xenial.
[09:21] <knome> me neither
[09:22] <Unit193> bluesabre: Didn't you say you could get more on LP 1662254, LP 1613910, and LP 1612311  (Man what a useless bot..)
[09:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1662254 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/xfdesktop:8:__libc_do_syscall:raise:__aeabi_ldiv0:xfdesktop_setup_grids:xfdesktop_icon_view_realize" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662254
[09:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1613910 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/xfdesktop:8:__libc_do_syscall:raise:__aeabi_ldiv0:xfdesktop_setup_grids:xfdesktop_move_all_icons_to_pending_icons_list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1613910
[09:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1612311 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/xfdesktop:5:g_malloc_n:IA__gdk_cairo_set_source_pixbuf:xfdesktop_icon_view_draw_image:xfdesktop_icon_view_paint_icon:xfdesktop_icon_view_add_item_internal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1612311
[09:22] <Unit193> The title is the only useful info there so far.
[09:22] <knome> ughh
[09:23] <Unit193> 1521388 too! :P
[09:23] <knome> LP 1521388 joins the party!
[09:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1521388 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/xfdesktop:11:xfdesktop_icon_get_extents:xfdesktop_icon_view_motion_notify:_gtk_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED:g_closure_invoke:signal_emit_unlocked_R" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521388
[09:24] <Unit193> There's just so many, a lot of them old...One had a comment by brainwash that it was fixed though.
[10:00] <bluesabre> Unit193: huh?
[10:01] <Unit193> errors.ubuntu.com stuff.
[10:02] <bluesabre> oh
[10:03] <bluesabre> Yeah, I can view them, but I probably can't do much with what I see
[10:04] <bluesabre> If anybody could use the paste from there, I can provide it
[10:05] <Unit193> As long as nothing is private, might be handy to add them to the bugs.  But eh, I dunno.  You're more likely to than me.  I already re-assigned a couple of bugs to nm-applet..
[10:06] <bluesabre> I'll have to review them and determine
[10:06] <bluesabre> Big stack traces
[10:06] <Unit193> Eh, well since you won't use them, and I won't use them...
[10:07] <Unit193> We'd have to get eric to actually look at lp. ;P
[10:07] <bluesabre> :D
[10:08] <bluesabre> I'll review them and get the traces uploaded tonight
[10:41] <Spass> where I could post my humble suggestions about default settings and default applications included in future Xubuntu release?
[10:42] <Spass> to be specific - xfwm4 /general/placement_ratio set to 100 (now is 20) and inclusion of gnome-font-viewer
[10:42] <Spass> launchpad with proper tags?
[10:43] <knome> send a mail to the xubuntu-devel mailing list and see what the general response is
[10:43] <knome> if it's positive, and developers back it we can look at implementing the changes
[10:44] <Spass> knome: ok, thanks
[11:12] <Spass> I didn't use mailing lists before (I was just reading them), so I hope I did it properly
[11:17] <knome> looks fine
[11:17] <knome> now just wait :P
[11:17] <Spass> and I think I'll not propose that /placement_ratio change, because when I think about it now, it could be just "better for me" option, but not "better for most users" :) got to think about a bigger picture, right?
[11:17] <knome> indeed
[11:20] <Spass> ok, so when I send to mailing list I do not get that same message in my inbox, right?
[11:21] <flocculant> Spass: depends on how you set it up - I think it defaults to sending 
[11:27] <flocculant> Spass: re gnome font - your most important item (add a font) is not there on the new package ;)
[11:27] <flocculant> it seems to now JUST be a viewer
[11:28] <Spass> oh.. that's a bummer, why did they remove that option? :/
[11:29] <flocculant> not a clue - asking someone will get an answer eventually ...
[11:31] <flocculant> missing comma from after someone - you'll not be used to me and my patchy use of punctuation yet :p
[11:36] <flocculant> Spass: your screenshot is from a definitely updated zesty?
[11:37] <Spass> it's from 16.04 on VM
[11:38] <Spass> but I have it on my zesty desktop too, works fine, with "Install" option available
[11:38] <Spass> version 3.23.91
[11:39] <flocculant> ok - well I've been asked to file bug - I'll look later
[11:40] <Spass> so, the same that you mentioned in the mailing list... weird
[11:42] <flocculant> Spass: please check on Xubuntu default iso's - I see it nowher
[11:43] <Spass> 17.04 ISO or daily?
[11:44] <flocculant> I've tried 16.04.latest/17.04 and 17.10
[11:44] <flocculant> biab
[11:52] <Spass> flocculant: maybe I was not specific enough, that window with 'Install' option is visible when I 'open' a font with TTF extension on my disk, downloaded from fonts.google.com for example
[11:55] <Spass> if that's the case, I will explain it on the mailing list
[11:56] <Spass> btw... what shortcut do you use when mentioning mailing lists? ML? :)
[11:58] <Spass> yep, works fine on 17.04 live session too
[15:30] <pleia2> flocculant: yeah sure, what about fb?
[17:09] <flocculant> Spass: even font-viewer on Gnome sees what I see - maybe your vm is old
[17:10] <flocculant> been talking to a Gnome chap
[17:11] <Spass> flocculant: but what about font viewer on my 17.04? it works well too. same version as you mentioned. strange.
[17:11] <flocculant> it installs ?
[17:11] <Spass> yes
[17:11] <flocculant> what version is it? 
[17:12] <Spass> 3.23.91-0ubuntu1
[17:16] <flocculant> well I have no idea at all what's the crack there. Font viewer in Gnome and Xubuntu doesn't install - and a screenshot of the gnome one to Jeremy got this response "< jbicha> flocculant: that is what it looks like in 16.04 LTS"
[17:18] <flocculant> Spass: in 17.04 then run dpkg -l *font* |grep ii |pastebinit
[17:19] <flocculant> and I'll compare to here
[17:19] <Spass> I've just check again, everything is OK on my 17.04, and the same on 16.04 VM, it installs the font (TTF file) to ~/.local/share/fonts/
[17:19] <Spass> and the font works in Writer for example, no problem with it
[17:20] <Spass> so 'Install' just copies it to that folder, I guess, but it works fine
[17:21] <Spass> flocculant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24474165/
[17:21] <flocculant> ok - I'll look later there
[17:23] <Spass> to standardize it a little, download Baloo font from https://fonts.google.com/
[17:24] <Spass> and sorry for that, I know that's not a Xubuntu problem at all, it just came from my suggestion on the ML, I wanted good :)
[17:32] <flocculant> Spass akxwi-dave - bug 1687075
[17:32] <ubottu> bug 1687075 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Restoring non-empty folders spawns warning - leaves copy behind" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1687075
[17:51] <Spass> flocculant: should I chime in with "I can confirm" message there? I don't know LP bug etiquette yet
[17:52] <flocculant> Spass: you don't need to write anything, just https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1687075/+affectsmetoo
[17:52] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1687075 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Restoring non-empty folders spawns warning - leaves copy behind" [Undecided,New]
[17:54] <Spass> flocculant: thanks and done
[18:19] <akxwi-dave> me too'd
[18:19] <flocculant> :)
[19:01] <flocculant> knome pleia2 - could we get some social media thing going on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2017-April/011488.html
[19:01] <flocculant> I did fb
[19:05] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: ^^ - also removed some date options as I'm not omnipotent and can't go back in time
[19:10] <akxwi-dave> thought you were a time lord..
[19:13] <flocculant> that's Unit193 ...
[19:15] <akxwi-dave> lol
[19:27] <Unit193> :D
[20:59] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: jfyi - likely I will delete you from doodle poll (after checking which dates/times) to see if it make a difference on participation from new people
[21:14] <flocculant> awesome to see things being sorted on thunar :)