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SpassI have a small issue with restoring folders from trash in Thunar, I suppose it's a known issue?09:13
Spassfolder gets restored, but I get a message "Items in the trash may not be modified."09:14
Spassand I must "skip it"09:14
SpassI'm on 17.04, but same is on 16.04 in VirtualBox09:15
Spassshould be easy to reproduce, just create 'test' folder, make a 'file.txt' within that folder, move 'test' folder to trash, try to restore it09:17
Spasscan someone confirm?09:40
akxwi-davespass I can confirm here on 17.0410:10
akxwi-daveHowever if i yes to all, the are still restored10:12
Spassakxwi-dave: Yes, folder is still restored, but that message is confusing and unnecessary IMHO10:14
Spassmakes you think "something went wrong"10:14
akxwi-davetrue, it does make you think that its not going to restore..10:15
akxwi-daveI would file it as a bug and then its up to the developer too decide if to change the wording10:15
akxwi-daveif you do file it, give me the number on LP and I'll confirm10:17
SpassI didn't file it yet10:19
SpassI don't thing that window is needed at all, it's not just a wording of a message http://i.imgur.com/RSI1TJi.png10:23
SpassTypical user may think - that's my trash and I just want to restore a folder from it, shouldn't be a problem10:24
Spassplus, default focus is on 'Cancel' button and when you click it, the folder stays in the trash AND is restored, very confusing10:25
flocculantSpass: please report that on launchpad, ubuntu-bug thunar11:17
flocculantI can't - non-standard thunar, but I've done the xfce report and will link launchpad to it later11:18
Spassflocculant: ok, will do11:18
Spassflocculant: but wait, I use Thunar from xubuntu-staging too, so probably Apport won't work12:11
thunder011hi i am new to xubuntu an i want to upgrade my system to its latest verson with terminal so how can i do it??:):):)17:50
thunder011please any one help me ???17:51
encomjoneswhat version are you running right now17:52
thunder011i dont know how to find it??17:54
encomjonestry a cat /etc/os-release in a terminal17:56
thunder011my saftware center is also not working17:56
encomjoneswell a cat /etc/os-release in a terminal will give you the info of what version you are running17:57
thunder011i tried apt-get update with root17:57
thunder011VERSION="16.04.1 LTS (Xenial Xerus)"17:58
drcthunder011: google gave me this as the first hit to "xubuntu 17.04 upgrade via terminal"  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-17-0418:01
thunder011ok thanks18:02
thunder011:):):)18:02
drcEnjoy!18:02
flocculantthunder011: you'll need to update more than once to reach latest - 16.04 > 16.10 > 17.0418:04
thunder011ok  tx18:05
flocculantand then every 9 months a new one releases18:06
encomjonesthunder011: it would be much cleaner and quicker to do a fresh install unless it is not possible for you18:06
thunder011yeah18:06
* drc wanted to say that but decided not to :)18:07
flocculantthunder011: all that aside - you'll likely need to fix apt first if things aren't workiing properly there eg software center and apt update18:07
thunder011okay18:08
drcIf he cleanly re-installs, he shouldn't have to "fix apt", should he?18:10
encomjonesno not for a clean install18:10
thunder011sorry i am new to linux so i cant understade it well so i desided to download latest xubuntu distro   insted18:11
thunder011sorry for my english18:12
Spassthunder011: remember to backup your files from current system, if you need to :)18:13
thunder011yeah18:13
thunder011can you tell me does all linux distro use same kernal ??18:14
encomjonesnot all no18:15
thunder011i mean they modify kernal as per thier need but the main kernal they use is same18:17
drcno :)18:18
drcit's...complicated....18:18
thunder011???18:18
drcsee https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/226230/how-to-find-out-what-distros-are-using-particular-linux-version for what distro use what kernel (spoiler: they send you to distrowatch)18:19
thunder011ok so is this possible to use new kernal of xubuntu to old  xubuntu os   ?18:20
Spassyou mean newest kernel possible on 16.04 for example? without needing to upgrading it to 17.04?18:21
thunder011yes18:21
thunder011https://askubuntu.com/questions/172927/do-all-linux-distros-use-the-same-kernel18:22
Spassbut is there a reason you need that newest kernel on your system?18:22
thunder011http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-reasons-update-kernel-linux/18:24
diogenes_thunder011, here is a script that upgrades your kernel to the latest stable, but it's not recommended! https://paste.opensuse.org/5680987818:24
drcthunder011: Let's look at it this way:  if you buy a MG sports car and know what you are doing you can put a Astin-Martin engine in it...but why?  The MG was designed to work with the parts it comes with.18:24
* Spass is driving MG ZT ;)18:25
drcIf you don't know what you're doing you'll only end up with a broken MG :(18:25
thunder011ok18:27
Spassthunder011: about that article 1) Security Fixes - you'll get security fixes in Xubuntu LTS, don't worry 2) Stability Improvements - is your 16.04 not stable? 3) Stability Improvements - what hardware doesn't wok on your 16.04 4) Increased Speed - well, maybe :)18:27
Spass* 3) Updated Drivers18:28
drcyeah, what Spass said.18:28
flocculanthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack18:28
Spassthunder011: I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, I'm just saying maybe you don't have to18:30
thunder011sorry there was some problem with my net coonection18:40
flocculantthunder011: so what exactly are you doing? reinstalling from newest iso?18:46
thunder011okay let me ask one more silly question is it possible to use kernal of diifernt os with another linux os i mean kali linux kernel with ubuntu distro  ????:'(18:46
flocculantif you want to start doing that - install kali18:47
thunder011i tried to find answer on google but i cant find any answer18:47
flocculantyou are new - you're not really sure what you're doing here, so doing something like that is probably not a good idea at the moment18:47
thunder011please dont get furious :-D:-D:-D18:47
flocculantyou certainly won't get support for that here18:47
thunder011nope i just want to know what happenes when i create fusion of different os with some modifications18:49
flocculantbreakage often18:49
drcthunder011: is this your main/only computer?  If yes they don't play with it...get another (cheap) one to play with.  If "no"...have fun :)18:49
thunder011:):):)18:50
thunder011????   what is hyperspace or hypervisor18:59
thunder011https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-run-multiple-OSs-at-the-same-time-on-a-single-PC-without-using-any-VM-or-third-party-tool#19:01
mumptaiis there a known issue with cryptsetup failing after a recent update on a 14.04 installation?20:49

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