[09:13] <Spass> I have a small issue with restoring folders from trash in Thunar, I suppose it's a known issue?
[09:14] <Spass> folder gets restored, but I get a message "Items in the trash may not be modified."
[09:14] <Spass> and I must "skip it"
[09:15] <Spass> I'm on 17.04, but same is on 16.04 in VirtualBox
[09:17] <Spass> should be easy to reproduce, just create 'test' folder, make a 'file.txt' within that folder, move 'test' folder to trash, try to restore it
[09:40] <Spass> can someone confirm?
[10:10] <akxwi-dave> spass I can confirm here on 17.04
[10:12] <akxwi-dave> However if i yes to all, the are still restored
[10:14] <Spass> akxwi-dave: Yes, folder is still restored, but that message is confusing and unnecessary IMHO
[10:14] <Spass> makes you think "something went wrong"
[10:15] <akxwi-dave> true, it does make you think that its not going to restore..
[10:15] <akxwi-dave> I would file it as a bug and then its up to the developer too decide if to change the wording
[10:17] <akxwi-dave> if you do file it, give me the number on LP and I'll confirm
[10:19] <Spass> I didn't file it yet
[10:23] <Spass> I don't thing that window is needed at all, it's not just a wording of a message http://i.imgur.com/RSI1TJi.png
[10:24] <Spass> Typical user may think - that's my trash and I just want to restore a folder from it, shouldn't be a problem
[10:25] <Spass> plus, default focus is on 'Cancel' button and when you click it, the folder stays in the trash AND is restored, very confusing
[11:17] <flocculant> Spass: please report that on launchpad, ubuntu-bug thunar
[11:18] <flocculant> I can't - non-standard thunar, but I've done the xfce report and will link launchpad to it later
[11:18] <Spass> flocculant: ok, will do
[12:11] <Spass> flocculant: but wait, I use Thunar from xubuntu-staging too, so probably Apport won't work
[17:50] <thunder011> hi i am new to xubuntu an i want to upgrade my system to its latest verson with terminal so how can i do it??:):):)
[17:51] <thunder011> please any one help me ???
[17:52] <encomjones> what version are you running right now
[17:54] <thunder011> i dont know how to find it??
[17:56] <encomjones> try a cat /etc/os-release in a terminal
[17:56] <thunder011> my saftware center is also not working
[17:57] <encomjones> well a cat /etc/os-release in a terminal will give you the info of what version you are running
[17:57] <thunder011> i tried apt-get update with root
[17:58] <thunder011> VERSION="16.04.1 LTS (Xenial Xerus)"
[18:01] <drc> thunder011: google gave me this as the first hit to "xubuntu 17.04 upgrade via terminal"  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-17-04
[18:02] <thunder011> ok thanks
[18:02] <thunder011> :):):)
[18:02] <drc> Enjoy!
[18:04] <flocculant> thunder011: you'll need to update more than once to reach latest - 16.04 > 16.10 > 17.04
[18:05] <thunder011> ok  tx
[18:06] <flocculant> and then every 9 months a new one releases
[18:06] <encomjones> thunder011: it would be much cleaner and quicker to do a fresh install unless it is not possible for you
[18:06] <thunder011> yeah
[18:07]  * drc wanted to say that but decided not to :)
[18:07] <flocculant> thunder011: all that aside - you'll likely need to fix apt first if things aren't workiing properly there eg software center and apt update
[18:08] <thunder011> okay
[18:10] <drc> If he cleanly re-installs, he shouldn't have to "fix apt", should he?
[18:10] <encomjones> no not for a clean install
[18:11] <thunder011> sorry i am new to linux so i cant understade it well so i desided to download latest xubuntu distro   insted
[18:12] <thunder011> sorry for my english
[18:13] <Spass> thunder011: remember to backup your files from current system, if you need to :)
[18:13] <thunder011> yeah
[18:14] <thunder011> can you tell me does all linux distro use same kernal ??
[18:15] <encomjones> not all no
[18:17] <thunder011> i mean they modify kernal as per thier need but the main kernal they use is same
[18:18] <drc> no :)
[18:18] <drc> it's...complicated....
[18:18] <thunder011> ???
[18:19] <drc> see https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/226230/how-to-find-out-what-distros-are-using-particular-linux-version for what distro use what kernel (spoiler: they send you to distrowatch)
[18:20] <thunder011> ok so is this possible to use new kernal of xubuntu to old  xubuntu os   ?
[18:21] <Spass> you mean newest kernel possible on 16.04 for example? without needing to upgrading it to 17.04?
[18:21] <thunder011> yes
[18:22] <thunder011> https://askubuntu.com/questions/172927/do-all-linux-distros-use-the-same-kernel
[18:22] <Spass> but is there a reason you need that newest kernel on your system?
[18:24] <thunder011> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-reasons-update-kernel-linux/
[18:24] <diogenes_> thunder011, here is a script that upgrades your kernel to the latest stable, but it's not recommended! https://paste.opensuse.org/56809878
[18:24] <drc> thunder011: Let's look at it this way:  if you buy a MG sports car and know what you are doing you can put a Astin-Martin engine in it...but why?  The MG was designed to work with the parts it comes with.
[18:25]  * Spass is driving MG ZT ;)
[18:25] <drc> If you don't know what you're doing you'll only end up with a broken MG :(
[18:27] <thunder011> ok
[18:27] <Spass> thunder011: about that article 1) Security Fixes - you'll get security fixes in Xubuntu LTS, don't worry 2) Stability Improvements - is your 16.04 not stable? 3) Stability Improvements - what hardware doesn't wok on your 16.04 4) Increased Speed - well, maybe :)
[18:28] <Spass> * 3) Updated Drivers
[18:28] <drc> yeah, what Spass said.
[18:28] <flocculant> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[18:30] <Spass> thunder011: I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, I'm just saying maybe you don't have to
[18:40] <thunder011> sorry there was some problem with my net coonection
[18:46] <flocculant> thunder011: so what exactly are you doing? reinstalling from newest iso?
[18:46] <thunder011> okay let me ask one more silly question is it possible to use kernal of diifernt os with another linux os i mean kali linux kernel with ubuntu distro  ????:'(
[18:47] <flocculant> if you want to start doing that - install kali
[18:47] <thunder011> i tried to find answer on google but i cant find any answer
[18:47] <flocculant> you are new - you're not really sure what you're doing here, so doing something like that is probably not a good idea at the moment
[18:47] <thunder011> please dont get furious :-D:-D:-D
[18:47] <flocculant> you certainly won't get support for that here
[18:49] <thunder011> nope i just want to know what happenes when i create fusion of different os with some modifications
[18:49] <flocculant> breakage often
[18:49] <drc> thunder011: is this your main/only computer?  If yes they don't play with it...get another (cheap) one to play with.  If "no"...have fun :)
[18:50] <thunder011> :):):)
[18:59] <thunder011> ????   what is hyperspace or hypervisor
[19:01] <thunder011> https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-run-multiple-OSs-at-the-same-time-on-a-single-PC-without-using-any-VM-or-third-party-tool#
[20:49] <mumptai> is there a known issue with cryptsetup failing after a recent update on a 14.04 installation?