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DarinMiller_ | santa_: git_checks.py has been fixed: https://code.launchpad.net/~darinmiller/ka/+git/ka/+merge/323422 | 04:36 |
* DarinMiller_ thinks the mp is always the hardest part of the crazy packaging stuff. | 04:37 | |
DarinMiller_ | wxl: do you want the other script fix? if not I will fix later this weekend. | 04:38 |
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lordievader | Good morning | 07:15 |
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clivejo | I hate timezones | 14:04 |
clivejo | so confusing | 14:04 |
DarinMiller_ | Ditto | 14:04 |
DarinMiller_ | timezone + DST per country = extra confusion | 14:04 |
acheronuk | it is 14:05 UTC :P | 14:05 |
clivejo | I know | 14:05 |
clivejo | but my phone is teeling me Im late for the meeting | 14:05 |
acheronuk | get a smarter smartphone then | 14:05 |
clivejo | I think its the way Ovi scheduled it | 14:06 |
acheronuk | he scheduled it? | 14:06 |
clivejo | he setup the thingie | 14:06 |
acheronuk | wut thingie...> | 14:07 |
acheronuk | ? | 14:07 |
clivejo | the thingie to remind me about the meeting | 14:07 |
* acheronuk shrugs | 14:07 | |
acheronuk | no 'thingie' here | 14:08 |
IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> (Photo, 1080x436) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/z00u5Nyo/file_2479.jpg | 14:09 |
acheronuk | not got that, which seems probably just as well! | 14:10 |
acheronuk | santa_: FYI. I uploaded the just released kirigami 2.1 to staging-plasma, and am rebuilding discover against it | 14:15 |
acheronuk | for artful | 14:15 |
ahoneybun | lovely | 14:23 |
ahoneybun | maybe discover won't crash as much | 14:23 |
acheronuk | maybe more... | 14:24 |
ahoneybun | well since it crashes everytime I try to close it that might be impossible | 14:25 |
acheronuk | ahoneybun: Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 14:27 |
acheronuk | oh well | 14:28 |
clivejo | same here | 14:28 |
clivejo | stupid thing | 14:28 |
ahoneybun | acheronuk: do you find it funny that the discover screenshot has nautiuls icon as Dolphins icon? | 14:28 |
acheronuk | ahoneybun: does it???? | 14:28 |
acheronuk | where? | 14:28 |
ahoneybun | well now they closed that page | 14:29 |
ahoneybun | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/1A3Dt8VIonWKd0_nG1mzUQUeXyLWpQDoUXgljJ04Cv-XBPOTbmUbaIYmv4VLgCA644jeMtUPZ1hPqh4mY-e5ZUsrwBwp-NLK57zc61rmrII=w530-h322-p-rw | 14:29 |
ahoneybun | xD | 14:29 |
acheronuk | sigh..... | 14:29 |
acheronuk | well. crash is a qtquick thing? so maybe stuck with that until qt 5.9? | 14:34 |
clivejo | yofel: are you aware of that message in KCI? | 14:34 |
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BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 14:49 |
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santa_ | good aftnernoon eveyone | 15:52 |
DarinMiller | hi santa_ | 15:52 |
santa_ | I've just woke up from an unintended map | 15:52 |
santa_ | give me a few minutes to become human and check all above pings XD | 15:52 |
DarinMiller | :) | 15:53 |
* BluesKaj slides santa_ a large strong cooffee | 15:53 | |
BluesKaj | coffee even :-) | 15:53 |
IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ayDBxsX5/file_2484.jpg | 16:12 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> why? | 16:14 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0I4f0HKp/file_2485.jpg | 16:16 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> wrong pic | 16:16 |
santa_ | thanks BluesKaj :) | 16:16 |
santa_ | I neeed to reboot brb | 16:16 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ub0yStn8/file_2486.jpg Oh Windows, you silly thing you | 16:17 |
santa_ | hi again, let me check the history of the channel... | 16:25 |
acheronuk | ok | 16:26 |
santa_ | ok, so we got a patch from darin for Ka which looks good and also this https://phabricator.kde.org/D5570 | 16:29 |
santa_ | acheronuk: ↑ does this affect 5.9.5? | 16:30 |
acheronuk | santa_: that klipper test fails on Neon, with 5.9.5.1 | 16:30 |
acheronuk | and I think in your build? | 16:31 |
acheronuk | santa_: your http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp2/ubuntu-exp2_status_plasma.html | 16:32 |
santa_ | in my build it fails because ot the b-d bumping I guess | 16:32 |
santa_ | let me check | 16:32 |
acheronuk | shows the autotest failure that is meant to fix | 16:32 |
acheronuk | plasma-workspace | 16:32 |
acheronuk | http://i.imgur.com/5YI2e96.png | 16:33 |
santa_ | indeed | 16:34 |
santa_ | acheronuk: about the bd bumping, wasn't plasma-workspace suposed to fail if breeze bd or something wasn't bumped? | 16:34 |
acheronuk | santa_: I saw (1) plasma-integration = fail without the b-d bump | 16:35 |
acheronuk | (2) plasma-desktop built, but without b-d on breeze bumped it could build without doing so agains latest breeze which it did not like in cmake | 16:37 |
santa_ | ahhhh, ok | 16:39 |
acheronuk | window decoration plugin issue if not bumped I think | 16:39 |
santa_ | right, so I think my test is valid | 16:39 |
santa_ | clivejo: ping? | 16:39 |
acheronuk | he's gone for a bit. will be back later | 16:40 |
santa_ | ok, np | 16:40 |
santa_ | just wanted to explain you how I did that build test and a couple of interesting things from debian | 16:41 |
acheronuk | FW ok to upload? | 16:43 |
santa_ | acheronuk: probably | 16:43 |
santa_ | I haven't tested the upgrades but other people did | 16:44 |
acheronuk | upgraded ok here | 16:44 |
santa_ | DarinMiller: replied in the MP | 16:44 |
santa_ | acheronuk: so go ahead and upload fw 5.33 if you want | 16:45 |
acheronuk | santa_: do you want to build on your container for any reason, or happy for me to do it here? | 16:45 |
acheronuk | here is better for me, as I can gpg sign the tags that way | 16:46 |
santa_ | acheronuk: do it as it's more convenient for you. I expect KA to work correclty, but if you have any issue let me know | 16:47 |
BluesKaj | Artful seems to hang on bootup for about 30 secs looking for a nonexistent hdd, which I removed from the system and deleted from /etc/fstab | 16:48 |
santa_ | :S | 16:48 |
BluesKaj | no biggie , but mildly annoying | 16:48 |
acheronuk | santa_: ok. will get on it while waiting for clive | 16:49 |
santa_ | acheronuk: so, while you work on that I will prepare the remaining stuff for plasma | 16:50 |
* acheronuk grins a progress bar | 17:04 | |
acheronuk | *at | 17:04 |
santa_ | :) | 17:11 |
santa_ | still has its small flaws | 17:11 |
acheronuk | santa_: ok. all ready to upload | 17:17 |
acheronuk | santa_: all uploads accepted. think you should be getting 74 emails :P | 17:26 |
santa_ | I have them filtered XD | 17:28 |
acheronuk | back in a little while | 17:40 |
IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Back :) | 17:51 |
IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> *pokes* @ovidiuflorin | 17:51 |
IrcsomeBot | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I see you! | 17:51 |
santa_ | http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.33_artful_proposed_migration.pdf | 17:52 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie, What. | 17:53 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> ? | 17:53 |
clivejo | I see you :P | 17:53 |
* clivejo waves | 17:53 | |
santa_ | hi ovi | 17:53 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> Aaaa.... Hello? | 17:53 |
clivejo | how are you today? | 17:54 |
clivejo | relaxing? | 17:54 |
santa_ | ovi, would you be able/ have time to add a filter by architecture for the status pages? | 17:54 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> You could say that... | 17:54 |
santa_ | btw according to linkedin you have a new job, congrats | 17:54 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> I have this job since November | 17:55 |
santa_ | lol | 17:55 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> I just didn't update LinkedIn | 17:55 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> But thanks | 17:55 |
clivejo | https://apachelog.wordpress.com/2017/04/26/kde-neon-cmake-package-validation/ interesting | 17:55 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> When do you need that filter by? | 17:56 |
clivejo | I would love a package search for our PPA's | 17:56 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> Does lp have a rest api? | 17:57 |
clivejo | https://help.launchpad.net/API ? | 17:57 |
santa_ | yes | 17:58 |
santa_ | it's being used in the informational part of KA | 17:58 |
clivejo | there is a python lib for it | 17:58 |
clivejo | santa_: do you have experience/interest in packaging python modules? | 17:58 |
santa_ | indeed, python[3]-launchpadlib | 17:58 |
santa_ | clivejo: I don't have much expecience with python packaging except fo KA. what do you have in mind? | 17:59 |
clivejo | I'd like to see mycroft packaged, but it would need a number of python modules packaged as well | 18:00 |
santa_ | btw talking about python, some frameworks have some python bindings. so far we have been skipping it as they are experimental, but I think at some point we should start with them | 18:00 |
santa_ | clivejo: this https://mycroft.ai/ ? | 18:01 |
clivejo | yes | 18:02 |
clivejo | not urgent, just something I'm interested in on a side note | 18:02 |
santa_ | I guess I could try if I have time, packaging python modules shouldn't be hard | 18:03 |
santa_ | which ones do you need? | 18:03 |
clivejo | well I hacked at some to test | 18:03 |
clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/plasma-mycroft | 18:04 |
clivejo | but having issues with the mycroft-core package | 18:05 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> santa_: filter architecture: A combobox containing: All, [enumeration of each arhitecture] | 18:05 |
santa_ | wow, you have been busy! | 18:05 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> hows that? | 18:05 |
clivejo | it is designed to install it and setup a system user called mycroft | 18:05 |
clivejo | then start the services | 18:05 |
santa_ | that could be a possible way | 18:05 |
IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I installed that package before and mycroft would randomly tell me my active code | 18:06 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> santa_ do you have a better idea? | 18:06 |
clivejo | but the plasmiod need mycroft running as the local user in order to use KDE skills | 18:06 |
santa_ | another way would be putting a checkbox for each arch, but the challenge with that approach would be not bloating the top of the page too much | 18:06 |
santa_ | so maybe the combobox is a better idea | 18:07 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> the combobox, gives just the option of a single architecture, or all of them | 18:07 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> separate filters, bloates the filter area | 18:07 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> what do you actually need? | 18:07 |
clivejo | would it be possible to have a floating div with filter and search on it? | 18:08 |
santa_ | I think the options offered by the combobox would be more than enough | 18:08 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> clivejo, if I add this filter as well, I'd also like to play with the style of the page as well | 18:09 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> make it pretty | 18:09 |
clivejo | :) | 18:09 |
santa_ | ovi, for my build box I'm using a ppa-build-status fork (I need to merge there your filters btw), see: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp2/ubuntu-exp2_status_plasma.html | 18:09 |
santa_ | sometimes I'm not building the i386 packages, so I would like to see the amd64 only | 18:10 |
santa_ | wrt to our official status pages, sometimes I would just like to see amd64 only too | 18:10 |
santa_ | so I have shorter lists to look at | 18:11 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> so I see you have a summary on top | 18:11 |
santa_ | this isn't urgent, of course, but I think it would be a nice addition | 18:11 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> separated by architecture | 18:11 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> nice | 18:11 |
santa_ | yeah, I made that, because I need to know when the thing gets stalled | 18:11 |
santa_ | note that I don't have graphs for tritemio (the stuff I have in my build box) yet | 18:12 |
santa_ | regarding the status pages, I would like to merge both scripts code (tritemio page status code + the 'official' code) into the iron hand | 18:13 |
santa_ | (but that's going to take time) | 18:13 |
santa_ | (just fyi) | 18:13 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> no idea what tritemio is | 18:14 |
clivejo | https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/tritemio/ | 18:14 |
santa_ | ↑ this. it's like a home-made ppa. sometimes you can do more than what you can do in the official ppa's | 18:15 |
clivejo | the system behind that page | 18:15 |
clivejo | basically an effort to find and fix autotests before they get uploaded and get "stuck" | 18:17 |
clivejo | santa_: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.33_artful_proposed_migration.pdf kapidox ? | 18:18 |
santa_ | lolwut | 18:19 |
clivejo | kapidox is red | 18:19 |
clivejo | just a glitch? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kapidox/5.33.0-0ubuntu1 | 18:21 |
santa_ | ah, "incorrect version". maybe it gets fixed on the next cron run | 18:21 |
* clivejo loves these charts! | 18:21 | |
santa_ | I guess the 5.33 package wasn't available when the thing accessed lp, I don't know | 18:21 |
santa_ | now it's green | 18:22 |
clivejo | no prob, just curious as to know it thought it was incorrect version | 18:22 |
clivejo | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kunitconversion/5.33.0-0ubuntu1 | 18:22 |
clivejo | FTBFS | 18:22 |
santa_ | temporary issue probably, I guess it was just migrating from -proposed to the release pocket | 18:23 |
santa_ | clivejo: that ftbfs is an annoying lp feature: when the build depends aren't ready the package is built anyway. so it's usually marked as dep-wait. however sometimes it's marked as ftbfs and that's why the -f option of kubuntu-retry-builds exists | 18:25 |
clivejo | ah, I just poked them manually via LP GUI | 18:26 |
santa_ | this is something which I would really *love* to see fixed in lp. that works properly on debian's wannabuild, which puts the packages not ready to built on hold properly | 18:27 |
santa_ | and tends to work like a swiss clock, I have wannabuild for tritemio | 18:27 |
clivejo | ever mention it in LP channel? | 18:27 |
santa_ | nope, I think it's a long stading issue | 18:28 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> I forgot, how do I generate the status page locally? | 18:28 |
santa_ | just execute ppa-build-status with the proper params, the html code will be printed in the stdout | 18:28 |
santa_ | don't forget to make sure you have the css in the same directory than the html | 18:29 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> I forgot everything related to that... | 18:30 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> what do I have to have and where? | 18:30 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> can you give me a command snippet? | 18:30 |
clivejo | you need the ka tooling | 18:31 |
clivejo | https://launchpad.net/ka | 18:31 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> I have that git cloned and git pulled | 18:31 |
clivejo | use this script to gen the page - https://git.launchpad.net/ka/tree/ppa-build-status | 18:32 |
clivejo | you could use frameworks 5.33 in staging | 18:32 |
santa_ | ovi check that you have the env vars + ka-metadata, as explained here: https://git.launchpad.net/ka/tree/INSTALL?id=0980566f05678a0b34aac01fc5c9220aa0a05ba1 | 18:33 |
acheronuk | wow. interesting apt sources for that Nitrux OS beta! http://i.imgur.com/mVEDnDY.png | 18:44 |
clivejo | indeed | 18:45 |
acheronuk | santa_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24481034/ | 19:07 |
acheronuk | likely ECM migrating....? | 19:08 |
santa_ | I hope so, it vanished from launchpad, no idea why | 19:09 |
santa_ | anyway kubuntu-retry-builds could handle that better | 19:10 |
acheronuk | santa_: also kdoctools also has new binaries, so may be held in the new queue for a bit | 19:11 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> I can't refigure out how to test this... | 19:11 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> I have this command in my history: | 19:12 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> `KUBUNTU_PPA_BUILD_STATUS_CONFIG=./build-status-conf/applications-local-test.conf ./ppa-build-status-cron >> ./Output/CRONOUT ; beep -f 3000 -n 3` | 19:12 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> but... the applications-local-test.conf is old, and has settings bout applications | 19:12 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> and that generation takes a loooooooooooong time | 19:12 |
acheronuk | new conf file for frameworks then | 19:13 |
acheronuk | and the generation for apps will take a loooooooooooooooong time | 19:13 |
acheronuk | that would be parsing build logs for 230 packages for 5-7 architectures each! | 19:14 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> can you give me a sample? | 19:14 |
acheronuk | frameworks is only 74 | 19:14 |
santa_ | sure, give me a few mins ovi | 19:14 |
santa_ | I'm trying this | 19:23 |
santa_ | ppa-build-status -p ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma -r plasma -d artful -v 5.9.5 > result.html | 19:23 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> it's doing something | 19:26 |
santa_ | it worked for me | 19:27 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> it's still doing something.... | 19:27 |
santa_ | just make sure you have kubuntu-ppa-build-status.css in the same directory than result.html, and you should be able to open that with the browser | 19:28 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> err... | 19:29 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> ok | 19:29 |
santa_ | fyi I have just pushed a few fixes to master | 19:30 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> it workes | 19:30 |
santa_ | one affects the ppa-build-status script but it shouldn't interfere with your work | 19:30 |
santa_ | I need to be afk for a while, I'll be back https://www.founditemclothing.com/itgoesto11/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/terminator-680x382.jpg | 19:41 |
acheronuk | frameworks is depwaiting on those new binaries anyway | 19:42 |
IrcsomeBot | <ovidiuflorin> how do I set-up the merge request again? | 19:45 |
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* clivejo watches FW5.33 slowly go green | 20:43 | |
acheronuk | https://kver.wordpress.com/2017/04/29/aether-icon-theme/ | 20:51 |
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_labplot build #9: UNSTABLE in 21 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_labplot/9/ | 21:11 | |
clivejo | Regression on kguiaddons s390x - https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kguiaddons | 21:54 |
acheronuk | clivejo: may have run that test before some of the deps were finished building. I clicked to retry | 22:05 |
clivejo | with proposed enabled? | 22:07 |
santa_ | back | 22:07 |
acheronuk | clivejo: without for now. all-proposed is not a cure all | 22:07 |
acheronuk | although it helps quite often | 22:08 |
clivejo | you poke ki18n too? | 22:24 |
acheronuk | no. I'm messing with PIM at the moment | 22:25 |
santa_ | acheronuk: so, regarding plasma build depends, do you have a few minutes for an explanation? | 22:25 |
clivejo | Ill poke it | 22:25 |
acheronuk | santa_: go on | 22:27 |
santa_ | k, a few things from debian | 22:27 |
santa_ | as you probably already know it has 3 complete suites: stable, testing and sid | 22:28 |
santa_ | you usually upload packages to sid, and then they get into testing when they are migrated by britney | 22:29 |
santa_ | in addition to that, there's a suite which is an overlay of debian sid, which is debian experimental | 22:29 |
santa_ | it's a bit like a single gigantic ppa where you usually upload packages which can't be uploaded to sid | 22:30 |
acheronuk | yes | 22:30 |
santa_ | e.g. because of a release freeze or because you have a large set of packages such as frameworks an some of them have to go trough the NEW queue | 22:31 |
santa_ | well, that's just FYI | 22:31 |
santa_ | now the important bit about experimental | 22:31 |
santa_ | unlike sid, it's a suite configured as... | 22:32 |
santa_ | NotAutomatic: yes | 22:32 |
santa_ | ButAutomaticUpgrades: yes | 22:32 |
santa_ | which means if you add experimental to your sources.list and you want to install something from experimenal you must type "apt-get -t experimental install whatever" | 22:33 |
santa_ | or just configure apt or do apt pinning so you can omit the '-t experimental' | 22:34 |
acheronuk | makes sense. forces you to 'opt in' | 22:35 |
santa_ | now, regarding how packages are being built, they are built by sbuild working for a wannabuild setup | 22:35 |
santa_ | wannabuild/buildd/sbuild is what I have in tritemio | 22:35 |
* acheronuk can see where this is going | 22:35 | |
santa_ | so regarding sbuild, in case you haven't noticed it has 2 resolvers to install the build dependencies | 22:36 |
santa_ | in ubuntu in general and also debian sid the apt resolver is the one doing the job | 22:36 |
santa_ | in debian experimental is the aptitude one | 22:36 |
santa_ | so the behaviour of each one is the following: | 22:37 |
santa_ | ubuntu's ppas have the apt one which grabs for each build dependency the last version | 22:38 |
santa_ | either in the ppa or the archive | 22:38 |
santa_ | this is good in way: it reduces the probability of ftbfses | 22:39 |
acheronuk | so not good for build dep testing if you are doing a bulk build | 22:39 |
santa_ | and this is bad in a way: this ↑ | 22:39 |
santa_ | so what I did in tritemio with plasma is, basically, simulate the behaviour of debian experimental for package building | 22:40 |
santa_ | and that's how I tested the current build depend bumping system we have in KA | 22:41 |
acheronuk | got it | 22:41 |
santa_ | which is case you don't know, it's one of the oldest and most stable in KA | 22:41 |
santa_ | it would be difficult to find bugs there | 22:41 |
santa_ | so all of that being said, I have documented a couple of days ago a possible black op - accuracy | 22:42 |
santa_ | which would be testing our packaging with this build resolver and trying to make it compatible with it | 22:42 |
* acheronuk thinks santa_ has played too much CoD | 22:43 | |
santa_ | because last time I checked I had some issues with it, and I think it's something which would be convenient to support | 22:43 |
santa_ | acheronuk: actually calling that "black ops" comes from the latest jason bourne movie | 22:44 |
acheronuk | damn. close | 22:44 |
acheronuk | lol | 22:44 |
santa_ | they even say at some point something line "iron hand! that's not implemented yet..." | 22:44 |
santa_ | s/line/like/ | 22:45 |
acheronuk | think I watched the 1st, and maybe the 2nd...... | 22:45 |
santa_ | they are 4 or 5 I think | 22:45 |
* acheronuk lost count... and interest really | 22:46 | |
acheronuk | ok. so you want to make this a tool we can take out and use when required, easily? | 22:47 |
santa_ | what? the tritemio stuff? yes, I think knowing how to use it would enable you to do anything | 22:48 |
santa_ | also think about the future | 22:49 |
santa_ | let's say we get frameworks6 and plasma6 or something to replace the 5 counterparts | 22:49 |
santa_ | probably the first packages are going to be available on kde neon | 22:49 |
santa_ | so we could grab and rebuild them and send them patches to improve it's compatibility with kubuntu or debian while they are not available on debian | 22:50 |
santa_ | this way it would reduce our "merge pain" and it would be also good for debian because they will need to make less modifications to the packaging | 22:51 |
acheronuk | very doable | 22:51 |
santa_ | that's what I did when plasma 5 arrived | 22:51 |
santa_ | but anyway all of this are just conjectures, time will tell what actually happens | 22:52 |
acheronuk | I aim to spend more time on Neon/KDE stuff | 22:52 |
acheronuk | Just last cycle it never quite happened. | 22:52 |
santa_ | yeah, right now we are in a stage where the frameworks/plasma/apps packaging is mostly done and we are just doing maintenance | 22:53 |
acheronuk | now I have access permissions, and you might go -dev, I can maybe bridge things a bit | 22:53 |
santa_ | yeah, lets hope I get -dev in this cycle | 22:54 |
acheronuk | yup, fewer radical changes now. just small incremental ones | 22:54 |
acheronuk | hope so | 22:54 |
santa_ | at some point would be nice to apply for motu too | 22:54 |
acheronuk | santa_: I was eyeing MOTU as well | 22:55 |
santa_ | that would help us a lot | 22:55 |
acheronuk | logical step, and would help | 22:55 |
santa_ | so if you have time and you think you can pass the process, please proceed | 22:55 |
acheronuk | once we have got our uploads going then I'll take a look at starting that road | 22:56 |
acheronuk | though too many hats could be tricky | 22:56 |
santa_ | acheronuk: so thanks for pointing the autotests patch, I'm going to tweak the plasma bds, so we upload plasma to artful today too? | 22:56 |
acheronuk | if it's ready. FW may take a while | 22:57 |
acheronuk | or I can do it in the morning? | 23:27 |
santa_ | as you whish, I am building those packages with the build dependency bump | 23:43 |
acheronuk | santa_: infinity just turned on auto-sync from debian, so a few 1,000 packages are about to build! | 23:45 |
santa_ | ugh | 23:46 |
acheronuk | santa_: going to go sleep. if you have pushed your changes and want me to upload at first opportunity, then just leave a note here | 23:48 |
acheronuk | or on telegram | 23:49 |
santa_ | ok | 23:50 |
acheronuk | thanks for explaining earlier :) | 23:51 |
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