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fone626 04:28
DarinMiller_santa_: git_checks.py has been fixed: https://code.launchpad.net/~darinmiller/ka/+git/ka/+merge/32342204:36
* DarinMiller_ thinks the mp is always the hardest part of the crazy packaging stuff.04:37
DarinMiller_wxl: do you want the other script fix? if not I will fix later this weekend.04:38
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lordievaderGood morning07:15
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acheronuksanta_: https://phabricator.kde.org/D557009:28
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clivejoI hate timezones14:04
clivejoso confusing14:04
DarinMiller_Ditto14:04
DarinMiller_timezone + DST per country = extra confusion14:04
acheronukit is 14:05 UTC :P14:05
clivejoI know14:05
clivejobut my phone is teeling me Im late for the meeting14:05
acheronukget a smarter smartphone then14:05
clivejoI think its the way Ovi scheduled it14:06
acheronukhe scheduled it?14:06
clivejohe setup the thingie14:06
acheronukwut thingie...>14:07
acheronuk?14:07
clivejothe thingie to remind me about the meeting14:07
* acheronuk shrugs14:07
acheronukno 'thingie' here14:08
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> (Photo, 1080x436) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/z00u5Nyo/file_2479.jpg14:09
acheronuknot got that, which seems probably just as well!14:10
acheronuksanta_: FYI. I uploaded the just released kirigami 2.1 to staging-plasma, and am rebuilding discover against it14:15
acheronukfor artful14:15
ahoneybunlovely14:23
ahoneybunmaybe discover won't crash as much14:23
acheronukmaybe more...14:24
ahoneybunwell since it crashes everytime I try to close it that might be impossible14:25
acheronukahoneybun: Segmentation fault (core dumped)14:27
acheronukoh well14:28
clivejosame here14:28
clivejostupid thing14:28
ahoneybunacheronuk: do you find it funny that the discover screenshot has nautiuls icon as Dolphins icon?14:28
acheronukahoneybun: does it????14:28
acheronukwhere?14:28
ahoneybunwell now they closed that page14:29
ahoneybunhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/1A3Dt8VIonWKd0_nG1mzUQUeXyLWpQDoUXgljJ04Cv-XBPOTbmUbaIYmv4VLgCA644jeMtUPZ1hPqh4mY-e5ZUsrwBwp-NLK57zc61rmrII=w530-h322-p-rw14:29
ahoneybunxD14:29
acheronuksigh.....14:29
acheronukwell. crash is a qtquick thing? so maybe stuck with that until qt 5.9?14:34
clivejoyofel: are you aware of that message in KCI?14:34
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BluesKajHiyas all14:49
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santa_good aftnernoon eveyone15:52
DarinMillerhi santa_15:52
santa_I've just woke up from an unintended map15:52
santa_give me a few minutes to become human and check all above pings XD15:52
DarinMiller:)15:53
* BluesKaj slides santa_ a large strong cooffee15:53
BluesKajcoffee even :-)15:53
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ayDBxsX5/file_2484.jpg16:12
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> why?16:14
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0I4f0HKp/file_2485.jpg16:16
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> wrong pic16:16
santa_thanks BluesKaj :)16:16
santa_I neeed to reboot brb16:16
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ub0yStn8/file_2486.jpg Oh Windows, you silly thing you16:17
santa_hi again, let me check the history of the channel...16:25
acheronukok16:26
santa_ok, so we got a patch from darin for Ka which looks good and also this https://phabricator.kde.org/D557016:29
santa_acheronuk: ↑ does this affect 5.9.5?16:30
acheronuksanta_: that klipper test fails on Neon, with 5.9.5.116:30
acheronukand I think in your build?16:31
acheronuksanta_: your http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp2/ubuntu-exp2_status_plasma.html 16:32
santa_in my build it fails because ot the b-d bumping I guess16:32
santa_let me check16:32
acheronukshows the autotest failure that is meant to fix16:32
acheronukplasma-workspace16:32
acheronukhttp://i.imgur.com/5YI2e96.png16:33
santa_indeed16:34
santa_acheronuk: about the bd bumping, wasn't plasma-workspace suposed to fail if breeze bd or something wasn't bumped?16:34
acheronuksanta_: I saw (1) plasma-integration = fail without the b-d bump16:35
acheronuk(2) plasma-desktop built, but without b-d on breeze bumped it could build without doing so agains latest breeze which it did not like in cmake 16:37
santa_ahhhh, ok16:39
acheronukwindow decoration plugin issue if not bumped I think16:39
santa_right, so I think my test is valid16:39
santa_clivejo: ping?16:39
acheronukhe's gone for a bit. will be back later16:40
santa_ok, np16:40
santa_just wanted to explain you how I did that build test and a couple of interesting things from debian16:41
acheronukFW ok to upload?16:43
santa_acheronuk: probably16:43
santa_I haven't tested the upgrades but other people did16:44
acheronukupgraded ok here16:44
santa_DarinMiller: replied in the MP16:44
santa_acheronuk: so go ahead and upload fw 5.33 if you want16:45
acheronuksanta_: do you want to build on your container for any reason, or happy for me to do it here?16:45
acheronukhere is better for me, as I can gpg sign the tags that way16:46
santa_acheronuk: do it as it's more convenient for you. I expect KA to work correclty, but if you have any issue let me know16:47
BluesKajArtful seems to hang on bootup for about 30 secs looking for a nonexistent hdd, which I removed from the system and deleted from /etc/fstab  16:48
santa_:S16:48
BluesKajno biggie , but mildly annoying 16:48
acheronuksanta_: ok. will get on it while waiting for clive16:49
santa_acheronuk: so, while you work on that I will prepare the remaining stuff for plasma16:50
* acheronuk grins a progress bar17:04
acheronuk*at17:04
santa_:)17:11
santa_still has its small flaws17:11
acheronuksanta_: ok. all ready to upload17:17
acheronuksanta_: all uploads accepted. think you should be getting 74 emails :P17:26
santa_I have them filtered XD17:28
acheronukback in a little while17:40
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Back :)17:51
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> *pokes* @ovidiuflorin17:51
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I see you!17:51
santa_http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.33_artful_proposed_migration.pdf17:52
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie, What.17:53
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> ?17:53
clivejoI see you :P17:53
* clivejo waves17:53
santa_hi ovi17:53
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> Aaaa.... Hello?17:53
clivejohow are you today?17:54
clivejorelaxing?17:54
santa_ovi, would you be able/ have time to add a filter by architecture for the status pages?17:54
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> You could say that...17:54
santa_btw according to linkedin you have a new job, congrats17:54
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I have this job since November17:55
santa_lol17:55
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I just didn't update LinkedIn17:55
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> But thanks17:55
clivejohttps://apachelog.wordpress.com/2017/04/26/kde-neon-cmake-package-validation/ interesting17:55
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> When do you need that filter by?17:56
clivejoI would love a package search for our PPA's 17:56
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> Does lp have a rest api?17:57
clivejohttps://help.launchpad.net/API ?17:57
santa_yes17:58
santa_it's being used in the informational part of KA17:58
clivejothere is a python lib for it17:58
clivejosanta_: do you have experience/interest in packaging python modules?17:58
santa_indeed, python[3]-launchpadlib17:58
santa_clivejo: I don't have much expecience with python packaging except fo KA. what do you have in mind?17:59
clivejoI'd like to see mycroft packaged, but it would need a number of python modules packaged as well18:00
santa_btw talking about python, some frameworks have some python bindings. so far we have been skipping it as they are experimental, but I think at some point we should start with them18:00
santa_clivejo: this https://mycroft.ai/ ?18:01
clivejoyes18:02
clivejonot urgent, just something I'm interested in on a side note18:02
santa_I guess I could try if I have time, packaging python modules shouldn't be hard18:03
santa_which ones do you need?18:03
clivejowell I hacked at some to test18:03
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/plasma-mycroft18:04
clivejobut having issues with the mycroft-core package18:05
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> santa_: filter architecture: A combobox containing: All, [enumeration of each arhitecture]18:05
santa_wow, you have been busy!18:05
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> hows that?18:05
clivejoit is designed to install it and setup a system user called mycroft18:05
clivejothen start the services18:05
santa_that could be a possible way18:05
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I installed that package before and mycroft would randomly tell me my active code18:06
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> santa_ do you have a better idea?18:06
clivejobut the plasmiod need mycroft running as the local user in order to use KDE skills18:06
santa_another way would be putting a checkbox for each arch, but the challenge with that approach would be not bloating the top of the page too much18:06
santa_so maybe the combobox is a better idea18:07
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> the combobox, gives just the option of a single architecture, or all of them18:07
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> separate filters, bloates the filter area18:07
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> what do you actually need?18:07
clivejowould it be possible to have a floating div with filter and search on it?18:08
santa_I think the options offered by the combobox would be more than enough18:08
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> clivejo, if I add this filter as well, I'd also like to play with the style of the page as well18:09
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> make it pretty18:09
clivejo:)18:09
santa_ovi, for my build box I'm using a ppa-build-status fork (I need to merge there your filters btw), see: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp2/ubuntu-exp2_status_plasma.html18:09
santa_sometimes I'm not building the i386 packages, so I would like to see the amd64 only18:10
santa_wrt to our official status pages, sometimes I would just like to see amd64 only too18:10
santa_so I have shorter lists to look at18:11
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> so I see you have a summary on top18:11
santa_this isn't urgent, of course, but I think it would be a nice addition18:11
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> separated by architecture18:11
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> nice18:11
santa_yeah, I made that, because I need to know when the thing gets stalled18:11
santa_note that I don't have graphs for tritemio (the stuff I have in my build box) yet18:12
santa_regarding the status pages, I would like to merge both scripts code (tritemio page status code + the 'official' code) into the iron hand18:13
santa_(but that's going to take time)18:13
santa_(just fyi)18:13
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> no idea what tritemio is18:14
clivejohttps://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/tritemio/18:14
santa_↑ this. it's like a home-made ppa. sometimes you can do more than what you can do in the official ppa's18:15
clivejothe system behind that page18:15
clivejobasically an effort to find and fix autotests before they get uploaded and get "stuck" 18:17
clivejosanta_: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.33_artful_proposed_migration.pdf kapidox ?18:18
santa_lolwut18:19
clivejokapidox is red18:19
clivejojust a glitch? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kapidox/5.33.0-0ubuntu118:21
santa_ah, "incorrect version". maybe it gets fixed on the next cron run18:21
* clivejo loves these charts!18:21
santa_I guess the 5.33 package wasn't available when the thing accessed lp, I don't know18:21
santa_now it's green18:22
clivejono prob, just curious as to know it thought it was incorrect version18:22
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kunitconversion/5.33.0-0ubuntu118:22
clivejoFTBFS18:22
santa_temporary issue probably, I guess it was just migrating from -proposed to the release pocket18:23
santa_clivejo: that ftbfs is an annoying lp feature: when the build depends aren't ready the package is built anyway. so it's usually marked as dep-wait. however sometimes it's marked as ftbfs and that's why the -f option of kubuntu-retry-builds exists18:25
clivejoah, I just poked them manually via LP GUI18:26
santa_this is something which I would really *love* to see fixed in lp. that works properly on debian's wannabuild, which puts the packages not ready to built on hold properly18:27
santa_and tends to work like a swiss clock, I have wannabuild for tritemio18:27
clivejoever mention it in LP channel?18:27
santa_nope, I think it's a long stading issue18:28
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I forgot, how do I generate the status page locally?18:28
santa_just execute ppa-build-status with the proper params, the html code will be printed in the stdout18:28
santa_don't forget to make sure you have the css in the same directory than the html18:29
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I forgot everything related to that...18:30
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> what do I have to have and where?18:30
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> can you give me a command snippet?18:30
clivejoyou need the ka tooling18:31
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/ka18:31
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I have that git cloned and git pulled18:31
clivejouse this script to gen the page - https://git.launchpad.net/ka/tree/ppa-build-status18:32
clivejoyou could use frameworks 5.33 in staging18:32
santa_ovi check that you have the env vars + ka-metadata, as explained here: https://git.launchpad.net/ka/tree/INSTALL?id=0980566f05678a0b34aac01fc5c9220aa0a05ba118:33
acheronukwow. interesting apt sources for that Nitrux OS beta! http://i.imgur.com/mVEDnDY.png18:44
clivejoindeed18:45
acheronuksanta_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24481034/19:07
acheronuklikely ECM migrating....?19:08
santa_I hope so, it vanished from launchpad, no idea why19:09
santa_anyway kubuntu-retry-builds could handle that better19:10
acheronuksanta_: also kdoctools also has new binaries, so may be held in the new queue for a bit19:11
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I can't refigure out how to test this...19:11
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> I have this command in  my history:19:12
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> `KUBUNTU_PPA_BUILD_STATUS_CONFIG=./build-status-conf/applications-local-test.conf ./ppa-build-status-cron >> ./Output/CRONOUT ; beep -f 3000 -n 3`19:12
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> but... the applications-local-test.conf is old, and has settings bout applications19:12
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> and that generation takes a loooooooooooong time19:12
acheronuknew conf file for frameworks then19:13
acheronukand the generation for apps will take a loooooooooooooooong time19:13
acheronukthat would be parsing build logs for 230 packages for 5-7 architectures each!19:14
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> can you give me a sample?19:14
acheronukframeworks is only 7419:14
santa_sure, give me a few mins ovi19:14
santa_I'm trying this19:23
santa_ppa-build-status -p ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma -r plasma -d artful -v 5.9.5 > result.html19:23
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> it's doing something19:26
santa_it worked for me19:27
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> it's still doing something....19:27
santa_just make sure you have kubuntu-ppa-build-status.css in the same directory than result.html, and you should be able to open that with the browser19:28
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> err...19:29
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> ok19:29
santa_fyi I have just pushed a few fixes to master19:30
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> it workes19:30
santa_one affects the ppa-build-status script but it shouldn't interfere with your work19:30
santa_I need to be afk for a while, I'll be back https://www.founditemclothing.com/itgoesto11/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/terminator-680x382.jpg19:41
acheronukframeworks is depwaiting on those new binaries anyway19:42
IrcsomeBot<ovidiuflorin> how do I set-up the merge request again?19:45
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* clivejo watches FW5.33 slowly go green20:43
acheronukhttps://kver.wordpress.com/2017/04/29/aether-icon-theme/20:51
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_labplot build #9: UNSTABLE in 21 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_labplot/9/21:11
clivejoRegression on kguiaddons s390x - https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kguiaddons21:54
acheronukclivejo: may have run that test before some of the deps were finished building. I clicked to retry22:05
clivejowith proposed enabled?22:07
santa_back22:07
acheronukclivejo: without for now. all-proposed is not a cure all22:07
acheronukalthough it helps quite often22:08
clivejoyou poke ki18n too?22:24
acheronukno. I'm messing with PIM at the moment22:25
santa_acheronuk: so, regarding plasma build depends, do you have a few minutes for an explanation?22:25
clivejoIll poke it22:25
acheronuksanta_: go on22:27
santa_k, a few things from debian22:27
santa_as you probably already know it has 3 complete suites: stable, testing and sid22:28
santa_you usually upload packages to sid, and then they get into testing when they are migrated by britney22:29
santa_in addition to that, there's a suite which is an overlay of debian sid, which is debian experimental22:29
santa_it's a bit like a single gigantic ppa where you usually upload packages which can't be uploaded to sid22:30
acheronukyes22:30
santa_e.g. because of a release freeze or because you have a large set of packages such as frameworks an some of them have to go trough the NEW queue22:31
santa_well, that's just FYI22:31
santa_now the important bit about experimental22:31
santa_unlike sid, it's a suite configured as...22:32
santa_NotAutomatic: yes22:32
santa_ButAutomaticUpgrades: yes22:32
santa_which means if you add experimental to your sources.list and you want to install something from experimenal you must type "apt-get -t experimental install whatever"22:33
santa_or just configure apt or do apt pinning so you can omit the '-t experimental'22:34
acheronukmakes sense. forces you to 'opt in'22:35
santa_now, regarding how packages are being built, they are built by sbuild working for a wannabuild setup22:35
santa_wannabuild/buildd/sbuild is what I have in tritemio22:35
* acheronuk can see where this is going22:35
santa_so regarding sbuild, in case you haven't noticed it has 2 resolvers to install the build dependencies22:36
santa_in ubuntu in general and also debian sid the apt resolver is the one doing the job22:36
santa_in debian experimental is the aptitude one22:36
santa_so the behaviour of each one is the following:22:37
santa_ubuntu's ppas have the apt one which grabs for each build dependency the last version22:38
santa_either in the ppa or the archive22:38
santa_this is good in way: it reduces the probability of ftbfses22:39
acheronukso not good for build dep testing if you are doing a bulk build22:39
santa_and this is bad in a way: this ↑22:39
santa_so what I did in tritemio with plasma is, basically, simulate the behaviour of debian experimental for package building22:40
santa_and that's how I tested the current build depend bumping system we have in KA22:41
acheronukgot it22:41
santa_which is case you don't know, it's one of the oldest and most stable in KA22:41
santa_it would be difficult to find bugs there22:41
santa_so all of that being said, I have documented a couple of days ago a possible black op - accuracy22:42
santa_which would be testing our packaging with this build resolver and trying to make it compatible with it22:42
* acheronuk thinks santa_ has played too much CoD22:43
santa_because last time I checked I had some issues with it, and I think it's something which would be convenient to support22:43
santa_acheronuk: actually calling that "black ops" comes from the latest jason bourne movie22:44
acheronukdamn. close22:44
acheronuklol22:44
santa_they even say at some point something line "iron hand! that's not implemented yet..."22:44
santa_s/line/like/22:45
acheronukthink I watched the 1st, and maybe the 2nd......22:45
santa_they are 4 or 5 I think22:45
* acheronuk lost count... and interest really22:46
acheronukok. so you want to make this a tool we can take out and use when required, easily?22:47
santa_what? the tritemio stuff? yes, I think knowing how to use it would enable you to do anything22:48
santa_also think about the future22:49
santa_let's say we get frameworks6 and plasma6 or something to replace the 5 counterparts22:49
santa_probably the first packages are going to be available on kde neon22:49
santa_so we could grab and rebuild them and send them patches to improve it's compatibility with kubuntu or debian while they are not available on debian22:50
santa_this way it would reduce our "merge pain" and it would be also good for debian because they will need to make less modifications to the packaging22:51
acheronukvery doable22:51
santa_that's what I did when plasma 5 arrived22:51
santa_but anyway all of this are just conjectures, time will tell what actually happens22:52
acheronukI aim to spend more time on Neon/KDE stuff22:52
acheronukJust last cycle it never quite happened.22:52
santa_yeah, right now we are in a stage where the frameworks/plasma/apps packaging is mostly done and we are just doing maintenance22:53
acheronuknow I have access permissions, and you might go -dev, I can maybe bridge things a bit22:53
santa_yeah, lets hope I get -dev in this cycle22:54
acheronukyup, fewer radical changes now. just small incremental ones22:54
acheronukhope so22:54
santa_at some point would be nice to apply for motu too22:54
acheronuksanta_: I was eyeing MOTU as well22:55
santa_that would help us a lot22:55
acheronuklogical step, and would help22:55
santa_so if you have time and you think you can pass the process, please proceed22:55
acheronukonce we have got our uploads going then I'll take a look at starting that road22:56
acheronukthough too many hats could be tricky22:56
santa_acheronuk: so thanks for pointing the autotests patch, I'm going to tweak the plasma bds, so we upload plasma to artful today too?22:56
acheronukif it's ready. FW may take a while22:57
acheronukor I can do it in the morning?23:27
santa_as you whish, I am building those packages with the build dependency bump23:43
acheronuksanta_: infinity just turned on auto-sync from debian, so a few 1,000 packages are about to build!23:45
santa_ugh23:46
acheronuksanta_: going to go sleep. if you have pushed your changes and want me to upload at first opportunity, then just leave a note here23:48
acheronukor on telegram23:49
santa_ok23:50
acheronukthanks for explaining earlier :)23:51

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