| daftykins | diddledan: strawberry security dev - http://i.imgur.com/5NYeNYa.gifv | 00:10 |
|---|---|---|
| diddledan | Wow | 00:13 |
| diddledan | https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8512/8545742983_fd31dbc893_b.jpg | 00:20 |
| daftykins | ooh what can i win!? | 00:23 |
| ball | Pie :-9 | 00:24 |
| diddledan | Raspberry? | 00:25 |
| diddledan | So, I just ordered an lg g6 | 00:26 |
| diddledan | Oops? | 00:26 |
| diddledan | I swear I shouldn't be allowed on the internet! | 00:26 |
| diddledan | I'm a liability to myself | 00:27 |
| daftykins | oof | 00:27 |
| ball | I looked at that recently but opted for a K7 instead. | 00:28 |
| daftykins | i thought LG were a good break from the evil of Samsung etc, but they're even worse :( class action lawsuits all around about their bootlooping devices | 00:28 |
| diddledan | I looked at the s8 but that's samsung..! | 00:28 |
| daftykins | EVIL! | 00:28 |
| ball | I used a Samsun Entro for a while. Nice phone but it's CDMA. | 00:28 |
| diddledan | And I don't want their weird BIxby thing | 00:29 |
| ball | ...and I need to be able to tether on occasion, too. | 00:29 |
| diddledan | The camera looks good on the g6 | 00:30 |
| ball | ...since my VDSL craps out at least once per day. | 00:30 |
| daftykins | d'aww | 00:30 |
| diddledan | Smack it | 00:30 |
| daftykins | give your copper a good brasso! | 00:30 |
| ball | What's sad is that it's the only option here, other than a mobile phone. | 00:32 |
| diddledan | Is that an appropriate behavior towards the constabulary? | 00:33 |
| ball | brb, time to feed the dogs. | 00:35 |
| ball | dogs=fed. | 00:41 |
| daftykins | ah we have VDSL2 tech here, but then it's much more befitting of an island | 00:42 |
| daftykins | 60 down 10 up over my ~700m line | 00:43 |
| ball | I get 3M down and about half that up. | 00:46 |
| daftykins | :< | 00:48 |
| ball | ...that's just over thirty six quid per month. | 00:48 |
| diddledan | I get 80/20 on an 80/20 service via vdsl might be vdsl2 | 00:49 |
| daftykins | your line might sync faster than that though | 00:49 |
| daftykins | you only see your provisioned speed in most cases | 00:49 |
| * ball nods | 00:49 | |
| diddledan | It does - reports attainable of 96/29 | 00:49 |
| daftykins | :D | 00:49 |
| diddledan | I was only looking at those earlier today | 00:50 |
| daftykins | ah har | 00:50 |
| daftykins | mine was 52/20 prior to signing up to the 60/10 service | 00:50 |
| diddledan | Apparently manufacturers are starting to make sfp vdsl2 adapters to allow routers to be made cheaper and be upgradable | 00:51 |
| daftykins | D: | 00:52 |
| daftykins | roll-on G.fast - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.fast | 00:52 |
| diddledan | Kinda like a dongle with the vdsl transceiver but being sfp it goes into a deeper hole that holds most of the unit with just the rj11 poking out | 00:54 |
| ball | Supposedly this line could do 43M down. Not sure I believe that. | 00:54 |
| diddledan | Yeah g.fast is getting closer.. but are now doing real world trials | 00:54 |
| ball | Not paying extra unless they can make the thing work more reliably anyway. | 00:54 |
| diddledan | S/but/bt/ | 00:54 |
| daftykins | ball: mm if they're really forcing it onto VDSLx you'd be better off having it on ADSLx if it's line length that's the trouble | 00:57 |
| diddledan | Ball, 3mbps is below the threshold to class an FTtc line as faulty | 00:57 |
| diddledan | I believe the threshold BT set is 12mbps | 00:58 |
| ball | daftykins: I don't think it's line length. The node is at the end of our street. | 00:58 |
| daftykins | he's not in Blighty though! | 00:58 |
| diddledan | Oh | 00:58 |
| daftykins | ball: oh right so it's definitely a fiber backed cabinet of some kind? | 00:58 |
| * ball nods | 00:58 | |
| daftykins | i take it you've tried terminating a socket right on where the pair comes into the property to rule out internal wiring? | 00:59 |
| daftykins | not that you're technically allowed to do that, but meh ;D | 01:00 |
| diddledan | Bedtime I think | 01:01 |
| daftykins | indeed! just finished an episode of Cosmos there, good ol' Carl Sagan | 01:02 |
| ball | daftykins: The network interface box has an RJ11 in it. I suppose I could run a fresh pair out to that, to see whether things improve. | 01:04 |
| daftykins | i'm imagining something close to the setup here, so a bunch of cables come out of the ground or sometimes from the pole over into the property, usually in a little grey plastic box - then the internal run patches onto that | 01:08 |
| daftykins | i just stamp on a built-in filter socket there and give a sync test \o/ | 01:08 |
| ball | I /could/ put the hideous modem/router box in the garage and run wires to one or two 5 GHz access points. | 01:10 |
| ball | ...it would be nice to get off 2.4 GHz | 01:11 |
| ball | ...and that would free up some space in the kitchen. | 01:11 |
| daftykins | ah well you just toss it there to test it, if it's good then you can still extend away from it, you just ideally want to do it over a nice bit o' CAT6 cable instead | 01:11 |
| ball | (the modem/router thing looks like a VCR from the late 1970s) | 01:11 |
| daftykins | hehe | 01:11 |
| * ball breaks out the Cat3 | 01:12 | |
| daftykins | :D sounds like string | 01:13 |
| daftykins | ok i'm gonna sleep, let me know of your tale of success ball! :) | 01:14 |
| ball | Hey, it's perfect for 10baseT ;-) | 01:14 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:41 |
| chatter29 | hey guys | 16:13 |
| chatter29 | allah is doing | 16:13 |
| chatter29 | sun is not doing allah is doing | 16:13 |
| chatter29 | to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger | 16:13 |
| tdaws | hello world | 17:07 |
| daftykins | m0nkey_: ah, the man is fixing things - this weekend is good | 22:22 |
| m0nkey_ | I'm not home to watch. | 22:25 |
| daftykins | d'aww | 22:25 |
| daftykins | oh sorry for the distraction then :> | 22:26 |
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