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frodo654321Hi there ..12:43
frodo654321What's the progress on LXQT on Lubuntu ?12:44
lubot<VikingRedwolf> You can test the metapackage by yourself (lubuntu-qt-desktop) available since Xerus release :)12:45
frodo654321Thanks ..12:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> But as it's being ported from Qt4 to Qt5 it still needs a "retouch"12:45
frodo654321Will it still run as fast as LXDE on the same hardware?12:46
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Yes12:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> The Qt Team is optimizing the Qt core libraries to make it as fast as "old" gtk ones.12:48
lubot<VikingRedwolf> And our goal is to keep light but fully functional apps on top of that.12:48
acheronukQt is not 'heavyweight', really. just what some project do with it makes it so12:48
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Yes12:49
frodo654321i like the desktop because it doesn't get in your way, unlike the one that came out of Redmond :)12:49
* acheronuk notes KDE plasma used about 1/2 the memory that Unity an Unity 8 did :P12:49
lubot<VikingRedwolf> A couple distros released LXQt desktops, I've tested and I don't like them, because of the customised environment.12:50
acheronukas always, it's not what you've got, but what you do with it that matters. ;)12:50
lubot<VikingRedwolf> indeed12:51
frodo654321I have noticed how the system swaps out even when it has lots of available memory, I disabled swap and it runs fine :)12:52
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I don't even have a swap :)12:52
frodo654321I've got the system running on 13G partition ..12:53
frodo654321It's a 23 GB partition the system is 13 GB ..12:53
redwolfenough12:54
redwolfmine is 15 I think12:54
redwolfLinux isn't a resource devouring OS really12:54
frodo654321Change of topic. I guess the systemd wars are over ?12:54
redwolfyes :)12:58
frodo654321I haven't noticed a big difference myself, except maybe boot and shutdown times are a bit faster.12:58
redwolfactually, new versions work better than upstart12:59
redwolfthere's some documentation here for "nostalgics": https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers12:59
frodo654321It used to wait on 'waiting-on-network', I disabled some script and it boots a lot quicker. It's to do with a non-standard NIC, I think ?13:00
redwolfit seems you did a good job13:00
redwolfnot for average users, though! :)13:00
frodo654321It's a cobbled together machine made out of old parts.13:01
redwolfwell done13:02
frodo654321I'm still 0n 16.04, time for an upgrade ?13:02
redwolfI always recommend a fresh install but, unless you want an edge OS, or if you don't need to keep that system for any server reason, yeah, go ahead13:03
frodo654321I did run dist-upgrade and for what ever reason it decided to remove most of the installation. I did of course make a full back-up before.13:05
redwolfthat's wise. and that's why I recommend to fresh install re-using the home partition13:06
redwolfso you get back all your preferences and settings13:06
redwolfincluding ssh, pgp, and other keys13:06
frodo654321I've got a recovery system on a USB .. I've managed to squeeze MPV onto it, it actually runs faster than from the harddrive. https://mpv.io/13:08
redwolfsorry, lunch time! brb13:08
frodo654321"including ssh, pgp, and other keys" .. I don't have anything confidential on this machine. I always assume someone is monitoring me :)13:09
frodo654321ok gtg .. bye13:09

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