[00:00] <Solex> Hi
[02:15] <Jenshae> Hello. I am out of my depth. I have a machine with an Intel NIC. I have found the driver for it but the install instructions require "make install". Lubuntu doesn't seem to have "make" by default.
[02:15] <Jenshae> How do I get and transfer a "make" package over?
[02:17] <guardianx> what's the error message?
[02:17] <guardianx> with which you determine that lubuntu doesn't have make?
[02:18] <Jenshae> he program 'make' can be found in the following packages:
[02:18] <Jenshae>  * make
[02:18] <Jenshae>  * make-guile
[02:18] <Jenshae> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[02:18] <Jenshae> I can't run apt-get install on that machine because it doesn't have the NIC installed
[02:19] <Jenshae> If I run "make install" on this machine it tries to alter the drivers on this one.
[02:19] <guardianx> ahhh
[02:19] <Jenshae> Ideally, for my level of knowledge, I need a "make.deb" :P
[02:19] <guardianx> is the intel nic wireless?
[02:19] <Jenshae> Ethernet, motherboard.
[02:20] <guardianx> gee
[02:20] <guardianx> well i'm no expert, no ideas here
[02:20] <Jenshae> https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/15817
[02:20] <guardianx> beyond google
[02:20] <Jenshae> https://downloadmirror.intel.com/15817/eng/README.txt
[02:21] <Jenshae> Well at least we covered the FAQ and hopefully someone here will see this and know how to do it. :)
[02:22] <Jenshae> Note useful: https://github.com/nylas/make-deb :P
[02:22] <Jenshae> Not*
[02:26] <Jenshae> warmer: https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/162
[02:33] <Jenshae> Huzzah! https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/i386/make/download
[02:34] <Jenshae> Now to try and bodge it into the old machine.
[02:45] <Jenshae> Makefile:121: *** Compiler not found. Stop.
[02:46] <Jenshae> Realised Ubuntu is probably closer than Debian so going to try http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/i386/make/download
[03:02] <Jenshae> Software Installer says "No." I used "dkpg -i make-blah.deb"  and it said setting up, processing triggers and back to prompt
[03:02] <Jenshae> However, same "Makefile:121: *** Compiler not found. Stop."
[03:06] <Jenshae> http://thebackroomtech.com/2008/11/03/fix-for-make-install-compiler-issues-with-intel-e1000-nic-driver-in-sles-10/
[03:15] <Jenshae> Dependencies \o/
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[05:16] <Jenshae> Transferred dependencies, no errors and still make errors out. :(
[12:37] <frodo654321> Hi there ..
[13:02] <melodie> hello
[13:35] <freelancerbob> halo
[13:36] <freelancerbob> is there command, library to check what i have download or which folders have been filled ?
[13:37] <freelancerbob> because yesterday i had 18 GB free and now only 500 MB
[13:39] <freelancerbob> halo is there command, library to check what i have download or which folders have been filled ? because yesterday i had 18 GB free and now only 500 MB
[13:46] <antis> freelancerbob, afaik there is no ui existing, giving you the information you want. i would write a little sh-script and execute e.g. a 'du -hs' on directories recursively and order by size. if you simply run 'du -h', it will show you the size of any file inside a directory - you should be able to track big files/directories down by that… :)
[14:30] <Hooterville> Does anyone know if one can run Facebook in Lubuntu?
[15:35] <Hooterville> quit
[17:01] <anna_> Hi guys, im running lubuntu 17.04, fresh installation, but the system neither reboor nor shutdown ... who knows how to fix that? thanks
[17:03] <lynorian> anna_, any reason why what kind of hardware?
[17:04] <lynorian> what programs are you running when trying to shutdown or reboot
[17:04] <anna_> lynorian, no programs .. the problem is present even if im runnin the live
[17:05] <lynorian> anna_, video card type?
[17:05] <anna_> lynorian, it is just a fresh installation ... just turn on the pc, then turn off or reboot and the screen goes black ... that is all
[17:05] <lynorian> anna_, does pressing control alt f2 when shutting down do anything?
[17:06] <anna_> lynorian,alt f2 does nothing unfortunately
[17:06] <lynorian> control alt f2
[17:06] <lynorian> keyboard leds change or no input and fan still runs?
[17:07] <anna_> lynorian, the laptop remains on ... the fun runs .. the leds are green ... the screen goes black
[17:08] <lynorian> anna_, you where shutting down from the menu right?
[17:08] <anna_> lynorian, yep ... i also tried to shut down from alt F1 terminal ... nothing different
[17:09] <lynorian> !md5sum |anna_
[17:09] <ubottu> anna_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[17:10] <lynorian> or with the live session you can do the test disk for defects
[17:10] <anna_> lynorian, the problem is with lubutu ubuntu mate xubuntu
[17:10] <anna_> so i dont think it is a iso problem
[17:11] <lynorian> aana_ did it do it with previous releases?
[17:12] <anna_> lynorian, I was running linux mint cinnamon before witouth this issue
[17:12] <lynorian> anna_, you should probably be able to run lubuntu 16.04 the long term support
[17:13] <lynorian> This might be a hardware bug in the kernel :(
[17:13] <lynorian> !bug
[17:13] <ubottu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[17:15] <anna_> lynorian, I was thinking to the kernel too .. I will install a previous version ... btw my system is a 4gb ram Intel Celeron N2840 / 2.16 GHz netbook (Acer es1 411) .. is there any significant difference in performance among mate xde and lxde?
[17:17] <lynorian> yeah lxde uses less memory but 4 GB is more than enough for all of them in reality
[17:17] <lynorian> I just got used to it after having it on my pentium IV with 512 MB that needed it
[17:19] <anna_> lynorian, -_-' well ... I was running ubuntu mate and, randomly, the system froze (expecially while watching a movie) .. the video froze and the sound looped and I was told that the reason was mate was to heavy for the my system
[17:20] <lynorian> anna_, can you run memtest from the live session ?
[17:21] <anna_> lynorian, Im not sure .. I think yes
[17:21] <anna_> do you think it is a ram issue?
[17:21] <lynorian> anna_, I would do so
[17:21] <lynorian> anna_, I do not know
[17:21] <lynorian> it crossed my mind
[17:22] <lynorian> after it is not an iso issue but hard to diagnose problems like this happen with image issues but if it happens in ram
[17:22] <anna_> lynorian, do you think cinnamon is too heavy for the system? cuz I remember mint cinnamon worked good
[17:23] <lynorian> anna_, no 4GB should run anything unless it has so many desktop effects not gpu accelerated that it uses too much CPU as I have not dealt with the n celerons which are based on atom architexture actually
[17:26] <anna_> lynorian, ok =) thanks a lot for helping ... I will try with a lond term support distro =) enjoy your day
[17:45] <Jenshae> I am still struggling..
[17:45] <Jenshae> I need to build drivers on the machine they will be used on - https://downloadmirror.intel.com/15817/eng/README.txt
[17:46] <Jenshae> They are NIC drivers. Anyone know a good way of getting Make install via USB?
[17:47] <Jenshae> "Makefile:121: *** Compiler not found. Stop." After I have tried moving .deb packages from the Ubuntu repository.
[18:03] <speedfixer> Where is a current package/application list for Lubuntu?
[18:04] <lynorian> speedfixer, on an installed system from command line or from other oses?
[18:04] <speedfixer> from the Lubuntu website
[18:14] <speedfixer> <sound of crickets> that's what I thought - nice friendly new web pages they have now - bye
[18:27] <Jenshae> People don't really get IRC, do they?
[18:53] <lynorian> Jenshae, have you tried installing build-essential?
[18:53] <Jenshae> Like this? http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/build-essential
[18:54] <Jenshae> How do a grab a full tree of files, the branching dependencies?
[18:54] <lynorian> Jenshae, it is a .deb package that has the compilier
[18:55] <Jenshae> My tired brain realised how good that link is.
[18:55] <Unit193> You have zero nic drivers?  I think apt-offline would be quite useful at this point..
[18:57] <Jenshae> Apparently, if I run the Makefile then the NIC will work.
[20:05] <Jenshae> It occurred to me. Does Lubuntu have a default C and C++ compiler?
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[20:17] <lynorian> Jenshae, not on the image it is on a package
[20:18] <Jenshae> I am looking now at apt-offline to try and get the essentials across the NIC-less machine
[20:18] <Jenshae> Just so many dependencies after dependencies trying to do it manually.
[20:19] <Guest26790> Hi can't change cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness as it seems lubuntu 16.10 does not have /etc/sysctl.conf  file to edit