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cmaloneymorning12:14
rick_hmorning15:53
rick_hfor a little bit more at least15:53
cmaloneyheh15:55
rick_hcmaloney: how's pcon?16:09
rick_hcmaloney: talks go well?16:09
cmaloneyrick_h: Yeah, they went really well17:45
cmaloneyPCon was quite good this time17:45
cmaloneyDidn't do a whole lot of talks, but had a great time17:45
rick_hAwesome17:47
jrwrendid you meet scalzi?17:49
jrwrenor listen to him?17:49
cmaloneyI did not, sadly17:59
cmaloneyI really didn't do a whole lot of the talks.17:59
cmaloneyOne of my friends tried to record part of it18:00
cmaloneyso will see how that turned out18:00
ZimdaleI swear we hit less panels each year.18:49
cmaloneySame18:51
cmaloneyI hit less panels than I was hosting18:51
cmaloneyHit the Javascript one, the books one (which was amazing), and part of the Women in Tech one18:52
cmaloneyOh, and the Smithees18:52
cmaloneyso, apparently I'm full of shit. :)18:52
ZimdaleHow was the js one?18:52
cmaloneyIt was unstructured, but it turned into some good conversation18:53
ZimdaleDamn I like that kind.18:53
cmaloneyNaturally started with the "Why the fuck is it 2017 and we're using JavaScript for everything"18:53
ZimdaleThat's what the tattoo one turned into and I though it ended up really good.18:53
cmaloneyNice18:54
ZimdaleAnd yeah that's a pretty easy question to get some opposing opinions.18:54
cmaloneyOh totes18:55
cmaloneyMy biggest complaint is "yes, we know it sucks, but we have so much sunk cost into this"18:56
cmaloneyso doing anything better is a non-starter18:56
cmaloneyThough I'm sure some would argue that UNIX fits that model18:57
ZimdaleIn too deep.18:57
ZimdaleI've seen a lot of "well we have js devs" a lot too.18:57
ZimdaleProbably because I'm a js dev18:57
cmaloneyYeah, no worries there18:57
cmaloneyI understand the history. I'm just wondering why we keep using the glue when we know the fumes get everyone high18:57
ZimdaleSomething something cool and hipster.18:58
ZimdaleMy biggest guess is barrier of entry really.18:58
ZimdaleIt's easy to learn with few real "rules" of development.18:59
cmaloneyWell, I think the biggest thing is in order to do anything cool on a web browser you have to talk JS to it18:59
cmaloneyThere's no other way18:59
cmaloneyother than adding plugins or other shit18:59
cmaloneyIt's like BASIC on the old micros. You can put whatever you want on it but eventually you'll get kicked back into BASIC19:00
cmaloneyor VI19:00
ZimdaleYeah.19:04
ZimdaleBuild my own web browser.19:04
ZimdaleWith blackjack and hookers!19:05
cmaloneyAs one does19:05
ZimdaleI'll build it in JavaScript. You'll have to do all your stylings in C19:06
cmaloneyhah19:06

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