[00:00] <cuken> Hello all, I have a server I don't have physical access to but can SSH into. The root partition is completely full but the home partition has plenty of extra space. Is it possible from within SSH, to shrink the  home partition and expand the root partition?
[00:00] <cncr04s> not without physical access
[00:01] <cuken> If I drive out to the box, I'll just need a live cd to do the partition changes right?
[00:01] <cncr04s> advice is to mount folders like /var/log into space on the other partition
[00:01] <Bashing-om> cuken: Prune /boot back down ? ' sudo apt autoremove ' and keep an eye on it when new kernels are installed .
[00:02] <cuken> Is there a way for me to list the big data hogs within the root device to see if I can move them
[00:02] <Bashing-om> !info ncdu xenial | cuken
[00:03] <cuken> Thanks all
[00:03] <Random832> cuken, does your provider not have like a vnc kvm console option?
[00:04] <cuken> It's a physical box I have setup, just can't get to it without driving for now
[00:04] <Random832> i guess i'm making some assumptions about your scenario
[00:05] <Random832> yeah the traditional way to do it is have a remote console access (maybe just a serial port) so that you can control it even with no network or when booted to a livecd
[00:05] <Random832> but that'd be for professional stuff
[00:06] <cuken> Here's my other general question for that. The server in question has a 10 tb lvm data partition setup
[00:06] <cuken> the root, swap, and home directory are all on one physical disk
[00:06] <cuken> I could always move that lvm off I guess and fix all the formatting. . .
[00:06] <cuken> just seems scary to potentially lose that data
[00:10] <ilzolende> mfDOOM, i use it, but i always use `redshift -O 4000` and `redshift -x`, trying to use the normal version doesn't work well for me
[00:14] <mfDOOM> ilzolende i usually do the same. I'm not a fan of the fact that it relies upon such accurate location data in it's default config
[00:28] <gsilvapt> The wiki is super fast today :D
[00:40] <randomblock1> testing my chat client
[00:41] <bazhang> #test for that randomblock1
[00:59] <Tweak|2> hi, having an issue trying to install moodbar... getting dependancy issues and then dependancy issues for the dependancy issues. currently i'm getting this. sudo apt-get install libgstreamer0.10-dev libgstreamer0.10-0-dbg libgstreamer0.10-0 gstreamer0.10-tools gstreamer-tools gstreamer0.10-doc gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-x  any ideas?
[00:59] <Tweak|2> oops...
[01:00] <Tweak|2> getting this configure: Requested 'gstreamer-1.0 >= 1.11.91' but version of GStreamer is 1.10.4
[01:00]  * cicada3301[m] sent a long message: cicada3301[m]_2017-04-30_01:00:08.txt - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/NDxNURCHXETskQkkniaXBTst
[01:02] <Bashing-om> !info libgstreamer0.10-dev xenial | Tweak|2
[01:03] <Bashing-om> Tweak|2: ^^ PPA conflict ?
[01:09] <cicada3301[m]> .
[01:12] <Kovi> Hi. I know that 12.04 is not supported anymore, but can I still upgrade it to 14.04?
[01:12] <dax> Kovi: yes
[01:13] <Kovi> dax: Can you please tell me how, sinde do-release-upgrade says that there are no now releases. :(
[01:14] <dax> o.O
[01:14] <Tweak|2> ty i will try
[01:15] <dax> Kovi: is the codename output in lsb_release -a "precise" or something else
[01:16] <Kovi> dax: it says precise, yes
[01:16] <dax> Kovi: there should be a line starting with prompt= in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades. what does it say?
[01:17] <Kovi> dax: Prompt=never
[01:18] <dax> Kovi: change never to lts, try do-release-upgrade again
[01:20] <Kovi> dax: I'm not sure to what version it will upgrade, but it did ask me if I want to continue. :)
[01:20] <dax> Kovi: it'll do 12.04 to 14.04
[01:21] <dax> if you want to end up on 14.04 you should be done once do-release-upgrade finishes. if you want 16.04, run it again after you reboot into 14.04
[01:21] <Tweak|2> ok now i'm getting this one : dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of moodbar: moodbar depends on gstreamer0.10-plugins-base; however:Package gstreamer0.10-plugins-base is not installed.
[01:21] <Kovi> dax: "do-release-updgrade -c" says 14.04.5 LTS. So this is OK?
[01:22] <dax> Kovi: yes
[01:22] <Kovi> dax. Great. And for how long will I be able to upgrade 12.05 to 14.04?
[01:24] <dax> Kovi: Not sure, things are a bit up in the air with 12.04 infrastructure deprecation right now. Assuming you're not paying Canonical for Ubuntu Advantage support, it is no longer getting security updates, so your best bet is as soon as possible.
[01:24] <dax> If in the future you get to the point where do-release-upgrade errors because it can't find the precise repositories, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades for instructions.
[01:26] <Kovi> dax: Thank you for your help.
[01:37] <Tweak|2> can anyone point me toward the package to solve the dependancy? i need gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
[01:39] <gsilvapt> Tweak|2, try running apt install -f gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
[01:39] <gsilvapt> or rather, sudo apt install -f gstreamer
[01:40] <gsilvapt> I think that latter is the one you're looking for
[01:40] <Tweak|2> gsilvapt: E: Unable to locate package gstreamer
[01:41] <craptalk> hey guys, i want to have a good sight on this
[01:41] <craptalk> when i change ssh port, i am changing my local port right?
[01:42] <ZJAY> deww you dere still?
[01:42] <craptalk> since tcp uses 22 as its port, when i am doing ssh outside, tcp protocol detects it but the end local port we can open any number?
[01:43] <craptalk> so when i am changing port in sshd_config file, i am changing local port right?
[01:52] <gsilvapt> Tweak|2, try updating and upgrading fiirst
[01:54] <gsilvapt> The package exists as gstreamer1.0-plugins-base. Maybe try that package instead of just gstreamer
[01:54] <Kyoku> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/cloud-publish-image.1.html this man page is terrible, can anyone explain how exactly I use this command to publish an image to EC2?
[01:54] <Kyoku> I can't find an example or tutorial anywhere
[01:55] <gsilvapt> Kyoku, the man page seems pretty straightforward about what to use
[01:56] <gsilvapt> command options arguments
[01:57] <gsilvapt> Do you have an error to show?
[01:57] <Kyoku> euca-describe-images: error: No ec2 endpoint to connect to was given. Configured regions with ec2 endpoints are: aws:ap-northeast-1, aws:ap-southeast-1, aws:ap-southeast-2, aws:cn-north-1, aws:eu-central-1, aws:eu-west-1, aws:sa-east-1, aws:us-east-1, aws:us-gov-west-1, aws:us-west-1, aws:us-west-2, localhost
[01:57] <Kyoku> that's the error i get
[01:58] <Kyoku> using cloud-publish-image x86_64 xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64.img mybucket
[01:58] <Kyoku> there -s nothing in the man page about hw to set the aws region
[02:01] <gsilvapt> I think that's a connection issue but I never used that package. However, they do mention you can change the environment variable EC2PRE
[02:01] <gsilvapt> Have you tried that?
[02:02] <Kyoku> i pasted their command set EC2PRE='ec2-' yes, it has no effect
[02:02] <Kyoku> and i can access ec2 fine via the cli
[02:02] <Kyoku> so there's no connection issue
[02:03] <seth> hi all
[02:03] <gsilvapt> that's the default, you have to change to yours
[02:09] <Tweak|2> gsilvapt: I found the packages after a lengthy google search. thanks for the input!
[02:09] <gsilvapt> Glad I could help. Have fun!
[02:14] <deww> ZJAY: am now
[02:35] <ZJAY> [19:51:15] <ZJAY> deww that just creates a symlink so it will still start right iwanted it not to start at all or do i have to do a reboot cold start for it to have the desired effect?
[02:38] <deww> ZJAY: take alook here https://major.io/2016/05/05/preventing-ubuntu-16-04-starting-daemons-package-installed/
[02:38] <deww> ZJAY: i just spun up a test ubuntu env for testing
[02:39] <ghostcart> Hey folks.  Does anyone have a good game controller for PC that has reprogrammable buttons?
[02:40] <ghostcart> Preferably more than the standard
[02:45] <deww> ZJAY: so i think what i said before was the wrong approach. still figuring this out. systemctl disable mpd will stop it from auto starting. you can then systemctl start mpd later as you want. see if that works for you.
[02:50] <ZJAY> k tyvm
[02:50] <z999-> how can i detect if i have a malware?
[02:51] <ZJAY> deww tyvm night all
[03:05] <chrobo>  /exec -o /bin/echo -e "\x01DCC SEND \" 1.2.3.4 1337 1\x01"
[04:08] <nirmal> i'm using linux mint 18.1 and i'm new user of linux mint. i have experienced screen freezing morethan 5 times i just 3 days. how can i fix it. can someone help me with that?
[04:09] <zhanx> nirmal: I used mint. went back to ubuntu and my window manager of choice works better
[04:09] <nirmal> ok...
[04:09] <implite> !mint
[04:10] <nirmal> ok...
[04:10] <nirmal> thankyou
[04:10] <implite> np
[04:26] <zhanx> power flashed on my and ups failed :(
[04:32] <kaffien> After installing ubuntu 17 desktop, and switching over to root via  su,   i cannot find ifconfig.   Where'd it go?  This is a fresh install.
[04:33] <kaffien> it wants me to   'apt install net-tools'   but if you do that  no such package exists.
[04:34] <mihalski_> hi.. I've just installed ubuntu server (as I'm looking for a basic headless system) as it's the closest thing ubuntu seems to do to a basic debian install and it seems to have installed a LOT of stuff that will never be used.. is there a reason for all the extra packages? I just chose standard utilities and ssh server with tasksel
[04:35] <mihalski_> alternatively.. how would it be best to install ubuntu so that it installs the BARE minimum? and is there really any difference between minimum ubuntu desktop and minimum ubuntu server?
[04:42] <Wulf> kaffien: perhaps it was finally removed, after having been obsolete for 20 years
[04:43] <kaffien> and the  route command?
[04:44] <kaffien> these are like .. basic things for troubleshooting lol
[04:44] <kaffien> what is the best way to set the dns in ubuntu 17?
[04:44] <Wulf> kaffien: ip
[04:44] <kaffien> i can connect to wifi, get a dhcp address, i can ping by ip but no dns at all
[04:45] <kaffien> using the gui in ubuntu 17, it shows all the correct info but negative on the dns
[04:45] <Wulf> kaffien: dns is managed by resolvconf
[04:46] <kaffien> i read something about that .... i will look into it.
[04:46] <Wulf> kaffien: check the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[04:47] <kaffien> it only contains loopback.   not sure why the network tools aren't passing this  along when we're using dhcp
[04:48] <Wulf> kaffien: do you have dnsmasq installed?
[04:48] <kaffien> no idea fresh install.
[04:48] <kaffien> cannot install anything else until dns is working
[04:49] <Wulf> kaffien: dpkg -l dnsmasq
[04:51] <kaffien> it is not installed
[04:54] <imbodie> Kaffien, do you actually have a network connection???
[04:54] <Wulf> kaffien: what's exactly in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[04:56] <meway> Hello. It seems impossible to install google chrome on my version of ubuntu 13.10. when I run sudo apt-get -f install. It goes to install some dependencies I need and appears that they don't exsist and I get a 404 error
[04:56] <meway> I think I should update ubuntu too. Its been a long time since I've touched this machine...
[04:57] <meway> here is an example http://paste.ubuntu.com/24483923/
[04:58] <valleyofsun> Is there a program in ubuntu that I can run that will grab all the drivers my computer needs for a windows install and Download them for me... There should be if there isnt
[04:58] <kaffien> nameserver 127.0.0.53
[04:58] <meway> valleyofsun winehq?
[04:58] <kaffien> and the gibberish about resolvconf.conf running things and this is not to be edited by hand etc.
[05:00] <imbodie> Kaffien   copy/paste this into a term window
[05:00] <imbodie> nmcli device show <interfacename> | grep IP4.DNS
[05:00] <valleyofsun> meway: No not to run in ubuntu, but to get the drivers this machine needs for an independant windows install
[05:00] <imbodie> replace your interface
[05:01] <Wulf> kaffien: 127.0.0.53? That's a strange value.
[05:01] <Wulf> kaffien: double check your dhcp server.
[05:01] <meway> valleyofsun: oh.. if you don't have a custom built computer you can usually just download the downloader from the venders website
[05:02] <kaffien> that didnt come from my dhcp server
[05:02] <valleyofsun> box store models of computer are easy with one site downloades for all the drivers but custom pcs are a BIT SH
[05:02] <valleyofsun> lo
[05:02] <kaffien> the command you had me type came back with 192.168.1.1  and 4.2.2.4
[05:02] <valleyofsun> lol same thought same time
[05:02] <kostkon> meway, 13.10 was eoled years ago, you need to install a supported version, 16.04 being the most sensible choice.
[05:02] <imbodie> ok... that is a start :)
[05:02] <meway> kostkon is there a way to update from the terminal?
[05:03] <meway> just assume I'm using ubuntu for the first time lol
[05:03] <kostkon> !eolupgrades | meway, you could actually upgrade to 14.04 which is still supported
[05:03] <meway> being converted windows user.
[05:03] <kitoy> what does ln -s means?
[05:04] <kitoy> ah, symbolic
[05:04] <kitoy> ok
[05:05] <imbodie> Kaffien, do the following
[05:05] <imbodie> /etc/dnsmasq.conf:
[05:05] <imbodie> server=8.8.8.8
[05:05] <imbodie> server=8.8.4.4
[05:05] <imbodie> edit the conf file and enter those values
[05:06] <Wulf> imbodie: why?
[05:06] <imbodie> to set the DNS servers to googles DNS
[05:06] <Wulf> imbodie: I believe they want to use their dhcp provided values
[05:06] <imbodie> yeah, but I don't know what those are... and Kaffien needs DNS... this get it
[05:07] <imbodie> at least with the google DNS , Kaffien can get out to the net and research the issue
[05:07] <kaffien> that is true
[05:08] <kaffien> its going to suck if this lady is going to have to call back to IT every time she switches networks lol
[05:08] <Wulf> looks like it's another systemd "feature". https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1624320
[05:08] <kaffien> ah well i almost saved her the $300 CDN MS tax
[05:09] <kaffien> there is no dnsmasq.conf
[05:09] <kaffien> but there's a folder called that
[05:10] <imbodie> Here is the link with ALL the info...
[05:10] <imbodie> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128220/how-do-i-set-my-dns-when-resolv-conf-is-being-overwritten/163506#163506
[05:11] <imbodie> actually have to install the dnsmasq package and then edit the file
[05:11] <Wulf> the real answer is "fix your resolvconf" setup
[05:11] <kaffien> same issue
[05:11] <imbodie> :) that might be harder
[05:12] <kaffien> i mean  i'd love to just apt-get install it ...
[05:12] <imbodie> OH... oops, now I feel your pain.... can't resolve to install :P
[05:12] <wolfian007> oops!
[05:12] <kaffien> oh wait wait
[05:12] <kaffien> saving grace,  it is installed
[05:13] <imbodie> so you have access to the GUI
[05:13] <imbodie> you should be able to enter manual DNS in the GUI network configuration
[05:15] <kaffien> yeah ... see  i did that
[05:15] <kaffien> 4.2.2.4  is ICANN   i will try google i guess
[05:15] <kaffien> but nslookup www.google.ca 4.2.2.4  DOES work
[05:16] <kaffien> just can't ping it
[05:16] <kaffien> I can ping ip's on the outside so my router isn't blocking anything
[05:17] <imbodie> so kaffien, you may have posted before but which version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:19] <kaffien> 17.04 lts
[05:20] <dax> 17.04 isn't an LTS
[05:20] <dax> just as a sidenote
[05:20] <kaffien> oops
[05:21] <kaffien> i also tried a ethernet cord as well .. same thing.
[05:21] <kaffien> i find it odd that both route and ifconfig are gone
[05:21] <mihalski_> ubuntu is a lot more complicated than debian :/
[05:21] <meway> kostkon lots off 404 errors following those instructions with my versin :|
[05:22] <kaffien> I'm used to  ubuntu ...
[05:22] <imbodie> ifconfig is gone in 17 :O
[05:22] <mihalski_> I'm not.. I wish there was a pared down simple install of ubuntu
[05:22] <kaffien> ok what about route?
[05:23] <kaffien> how does ubuntu get simpler to install?
[05:23] <mihalski_> less packages
[05:23] <kaffien> hrrrm .... it just kind of installed
[05:23] <kaffien> maybe thats because it was the desktop version
[05:23] <mihalski_> yeah.. WAY too much stuff
[05:23] <mihalski_> it's the server version
[05:24] <mihalski_> but I don't know what the difference between the desktop and server version are short of the packages
[05:25] <coffeeguy> hey how do you upgrade from 16.04.1 to 17.04?
[05:25] <imbodie> how about   91.189.95.15/manpages/zesty/man8/resolveconf.8.html
[05:26] <mihalski_> found the answer.. is of 12.something there is no difference except for the packages included on the image
[05:26] <mihalski_> but that still doesn't explain why it installs so much by default :/
[05:26] <mihalski_> I assume you update the sources.list
[05:26] <mihalski_> and then do a dost-upgrade ?
[05:26] <mihalski_> dist-upgrade
[05:27] <kostkon> meway, so you wiped your sources.list clean, pasted the four lines from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Update_sources.list after changing CODENAME to saucy, saved the file and then ran apt-get update?
[05:27] <coffeeguy> ok ty :)
[05:32] <meway> kostkon yea its updating now ... but there was allot of 404 errors
[05:32] <kaffien> fixed it for now
[05:33] <kaffien> DNSSEC  was screwing things up
[05:33] <kostkon> meway, how did you edit the file?
[05:33] <imbodie> I didn't think that was a thing (yet)
[05:33] <kostkon> meway, hopefully with     sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list     or     sudo -H gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:34] <meway> I use vim
[05:37] <kostkon> meway, ok
[05:40] <meway> kostkon: aaah!! you broke it <_<
[05:40] <meway> jk lol thanks for the help though !
[05:40] <kostkon> meway, what happened?
[05:41] <meway> its working
[05:41] <kbob> vim?
[05:46] <mihalski_> any lxd people here?
[05:55] <mihalski_> nobody?
[05:55] <davidj> Ask again if you could, just got here.
[05:55] <YankDownUnder> What was the question?
[05:58] <mihalski_> to do with lxd.. is anyone familiar with it?
[05:59] <YankDownUnder> mihalski_: Um...have you asked in the #lubuntu channel?
[05:59] <mihalski_> no.. what's the @lubuntu channel?
[06:00] <kostkon> YankDownUnder, lxd != lxde
[06:00] <mihalski_> ahh
[06:00] <mihalski_> I see the confusion
[06:00] <mihalski_> lxd is a container hypervisor
[06:02] <YankDownUnder> There is #lxcontainers
[06:11] <mihalski_> #lxcontainers seems dead at the moment
[06:11] <mihalski_> I'm just trying to understand this
[06:11] <mihalski_> Size in GB of the new loop device (1GB minimum) [default=18GB]:
[06:12] <mihalski_> is this intended to contain ALL the containers?
[06:12] <mihalski_> is it resizable?
[06:12] <mihalski_> I don't want to be locked into something I can't change
[06:13] <YankDownUnder> mihalski_: I'll assume you've looked on the forums/wiki - not just for Ubuntu but for SuSE and Fedora and Debian as well - for this particular answer?
[06:18] <mihalski_> I've googled it and it SEEMS like it's what I said and you can expand with some difficulty.. but it's one thing guessing based on things you find and another having someone who knows tell you
[06:19] <YankDownUnder> Your choices: Wait and be patient - OR - wait and be patient. Great options!
[06:20] <mihalski_> waiting is too time consuming given the brief changes I have to actually DO something.. I've been trying to install linux for 2 weeks now with unexpected setbacks every time
[06:21] <mihalski_> it's probably faster to just redo it than not do it at all
[06:21] <mihalski_> I'm a bit old so I try to do it right the first time.. makes everything EXTREMELY time consuming
[06:24] <YankDownUnder> "Unexpected setbacks"...hmm...and "old" is irrelevant. "Old" is when one just stops doing anything...and I am "old" in the respect of "normal age"...albeit not in the 60's.
[06:25] <YankDownUnder> Yes.
[06:25] <mihalski_> not old
[06:25] <mihalski_> I meant OCD
[06:25] <mihalski_> autocorrect
[06:26] <YankDownUnder> I've sat for weeks in channels waiting for information to resolve a single simple error...something that I could have resolved in seconds - HAD I the information (and had there been Google at the time)
[06:26] <mihalski_> I tend to figure it out myself and get extremely frustrated in the process as it's a lot more work to work it out than to be given the answer
[06:27] <mihalski_> as for setbacks
[06:27] <mihalski_> I'm a debian person
[06:27] <mihalski_> I wanted to install debian and use xen on a macmini
[06:27] <mihalski_> first problem
[06:27] <ducasse> mihalski_: where is what you quoted taken from - some man page?
[06:27] <YankDownUnder> mihalski_: I'll still stand on "Patience is the greatest weapon"
[06:27] <mihalski_> turns out that xen doesn't support uefi.. at least not on debian
[06:28] <mihalski_> ducasse: which quote are you referring to?
[06:29] <ducasse> mihalski_: "Size in GB of the new loop device"
[06:29] <mihalski_> then it turns out that I need to have the Mac mini install be in legacy bios mode.. but that means you need to install off optical drive.. it then turns out that the optical drive just spits discs out.. something wrong with it
[06:29] <mihalski_> and so on and so on
[06:29] <mihalski_> ducasse: it's a prompt when you do a lxd init
[06:29] <mihalski_> ```
[06:29] <mihalski_> oops
[06:29] <mihalski_> used to markdown
[06:30] <mihalski_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XdQMs5rG/
[06:30] <ducasse> mihalski_: did you choose 'loop device' as backing store?
[06:31] <mihalski_> backing store? not sure I understand
[06:32] <mihalski_> 100gb ssd with the intent of running all I can in containers.. so I figure.. what? 80GB makes sense? and should give me some room ?
[06:32] <mihalski_> just not sure if I'm missing something
[06:32] <ducasse> mihalski_: storage pool, in other words. i've only used zfs and btrfs with lxd, but it seems to mean for all containers. the zfs/btrfs pool certainly is.
[06:33] <mihalski_> then again.. I only have 8gb memory
[06:34] <mihalski_> lxd doesn't share memory does it? between containers?
[06:34] <mihalski_> based on need
[06:34] <ducasse> mihalski_: containers do not take up a lot of space. memory is shared, yes.
[06:34] <mihalski_> ok.. that's a pro in my case
[06:35] <mihalski_> I have more space than memory to utilise it if I went the vm route
[06:35] <YankDownUnder> ducasse: Question - as I'm just now reading up on "containers" - so the actual "image" lives locally, yes?
[06:35] <ducasse> YankDownUnder: yes
[06:35] <mihalski_> yes
[06:35] <mihalski_> remotely isn't an option for me :P
[06:35] <mihalski_> at least not in the cloud
[06:35] <YankDownUnder> ducasse: Ah...so, then what is the difference between me using VB for VM's as opposed to using containers?
[06:35] <mihalski_> resources
[06:36] <ducasse> YankDownUnder: containers use less resources, they share kernel etc
[06:36] <mihalski_> "10x the density of ESX, 25% faster, zero latency"
[06:36] <mihalski_> is the promise of lxd
[06:37] <mihalski_> is lxd just a higher level built on lxc?
[06:37] <mihalski_> that's how I'm perceiving it
[06:37] <YankDownUnder> I'm just sitting here trying to mentally weigh up the differences in running a server VM in "headless" mode and "containers"...hmm...
[06:37] <ducasse> mihalski_: different cli tools, same kernel framework
[06:38] <mihalski_> well lxd is linux only afaik
[06:38] <mihalski_> vm's can run windows.. or other os's
[06:38] <mihalski_> xen and kvm can do windows
[06:38] <mihalski_> but are much more resource heavy
[06:38] <YankDownUnder> My interest in running anything "Microsoft" is about the same as what is in my "Cup of Care"...
[06:39] <mihalski_> ms isn't the only non linux system
[06:39] <YankDownUnder> OS/2 ain't Microsoft? OMG OMG OMG! ;)
[06:39] <mihalski_> I quite enjoyed freebsd when I used it for a while.. it always seemed a bit alien to me since I started with linux//
[06:40] <mihalski_> beos was pretty awesome too.. there are others
[06:40] <mihalski_> and sometimes it's not about interests.. but about needs
[06:41] <YankDownUnder> I loved BeOS...set up two studios with BeOS for doing direct-to-disk recording and mixing...great stuff (until Microsoft killed them)...ditto with Novell...another story...
[06:41] <mihalski_> there are open source implementations of windows.. pretty impressive work
[06:41] <YankDownUnder> mihalski_: ReactOS
[06:42] <mihalski_> beos was my jam.. it was the only thing since the Amiga that really made me hopeful for a new type of OS
[06:42] <ducasse> let's try not to stray too far offtopic, please
[06:42] <mihalski_> nostalgia is not really a topic :)
[06:43] <mihalski_> but lxd seems like the best container format to me
[06:43] <YankDownUnder> I reckon I'll stick to VB on Ubuntu...works great...spent enough time using it - knowing it...happy as a clam...
[06:43] <mihalski_> VB?
[06:43] <YankDownUnder> VirtualBox
[06:43] <mihalski_> ahh
[06:43] <mihalski_> can that run headless?
[06:43] <YankDownUnder> Yes. Love it.
[06:43] <ducasse> yep
[06:44] <ducasse> mihalski_: it can even interface with libvirt, afaik
[06:44] <mihalski_> overkill when you only want to run linux though
[06:44] <mihalski_> and if resources are a factor
[06:44] <YankDownUnder> Depends entirely on situation, needs and etc etc.
[06:45] <mihalski_> my ideal setup would be debian with lxd.. since you can do a SUPER slim debian install.. basically nothing.. you need to install sudo and lxd.. done..
[06:45] <YankDownUnder> Perfect example: Isolated mail server, isolated file server, isolated print server...on one machine...which is nice...
[06:45] <ducasse> mihalski_: you can install a very minimal ubuntu as well
[06:45] <mihalski_> my interest in isolation is not security.. it's more about experimenting.. and snapshotting.. and recovering
[06:46] <YankDownUnder> (WindowMaker Yay!) Ahem...
[06:46] <mihalski_> I LOVEd WinmdowMaker.. is it still around?
[06:46] <YankDownUnder> mihalski_: Um...kinda using it, um...like now?
[06:46] <mihalski_> but is it being worked on still?
[06:46] <mihalski_> and the entire openstep thing
[06:46] <YankDownUnder> mihalski_: Updated code as of March 2017.
[06:46] <ducasse> gnustep, you mean?
[06:47] <ducasse> openstep is long dead.
[06:47] <YankDownUnder> WindowMaker...(Openstep - ah...yesh...and I have a VM of that...)
[06:47] <mihalski_> ducasse: how do you do a minimal ubuntu install? I did ubuntu server with base utils and ssh server and it's still much bigger than a debian install.. so many packages I don't need
[06:47] <mihalski_> yeah.. gnu step is what I meant
[06:48] <YankDownUnder> GNUStep still has code updates...t'ain't dead yet.
[06:48] <mihalski_> I use macOS mainly.. with linux for any server type software
[06:48] <ducasse> mihalski_: you can use debootstrap if you want it _really_ small, that means you need to set up bootloader etc manually
[06:49] <mihalski_> I don't see why ubuntu doesn't give a minimal install as an option for those who want it.. it would just be a matter of which packages get installed
[06:49] <YankDownUnder> Netinstall.
[06:49] <mihalski_> or is the base utils MUCH larger under ubuntu then debian?
[06:50] <mihalski_> are debian and ubuntu developing completely independently? or is there some overlap?
[06:50] <ducasse> mihalski_: the ubuntu-server packaga probably contains most of the stuff that isn't in a base debian install
[06:51] <ducasse> *package
[06:51] <mihalski_> oh? is that a default task you don't get to choose?
[06:51] <ducasse> on the server image, yes
[06:52] <mihalski_> interesting.. so you mentioned a netinistall? is there a netinst for ubuntu just like there is for debian? the lets you do a proper minimal install?
[06:52] <ducasse> !mini
[06:52] <mihalski_> for a desktop I'd choose ubuntu over debian.. but for headless debian seems better suited... but lxd isn't in debian yet :P
[06:52] <mihalski_> I've not used a graphical installer for years so that's fine
[06:53] <mihalski_> I feel like I've downloaded 20 install images in the last few weeks
[06:53] <mihalski_> debian and ubuntu
[06:53] <mihalski_> and some others.. in the search for just the right thing
[06:54] <mihalski_> fail :/
[06:54] <mihalski_> While the minimal iso image is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode. The mini iso lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode.
[06:56] <mihalski_> seems like there are ways to fashion your own uefi compatible minimal install.. but it would be nice if it were downloadable somewhere
[06:56] <mihalski_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/PXE-netboot-install
[06:57] <mihalski_> looks like it COULD work.. maybe
[06:57] <mihalski_> I tend to run into the problems always
[06:58] <mihalski_> increasing complexity until it usually fails for some unexpected reason and I have to move onto another idea
[07:04] <mihalski_> Would you like LXD to be available over the network (yes/no)
[07:05] <mihalski_> umm..I'm having trouble finding what that actually means
[07:05] <mihalski_> I presume not about network access to containers but lxd.. whatever that means
[07:07] <mihalski_> ok.., I can see I am right.. but still don't know what it means.. what can lxd network access actually allow me to do?
[07:08] <ducasse> control lxd over the network
[07:09] <mihalski_> would that include if I wanted to control lxd from within one of the containers?
[07:09] <ducasse> yes, that would need to be done over the network.
[07:09] <mihalski_> ok... then I'll enable it
[07:13] <mihalski_> Would you like stale cached images to be updated automatically (yes/no) what is this referring to?
[07:13] <mihalski_> cached images of what?
[07:13] <mihalski_> downloaded containers?
[07:14] <ducasse> yep
[07:19] <bubbely> can someone help me install ubuntu from within debian and no usb or cd drive? i tried unetbootin to HD but i get th e msgg cant find hdd15, 1 when i select unetbootin at boot
[07:20] <bubbely> hi?
[07:22] <FManTropyx> what's up?
[07:22] <bubbely> can someone help me install ubuntu from within debian and no usb or cd drive? i tried unetbootin to HD but i get th e msgg cant find hdd15, 1 when i select unetbootin at boot
[07:24] <bubbely> thats what's up =p
[07:25] <FManTropyx> no idea... try to ask on ##linux, which is more active at this time
[07:57] <gnomey> hi all.
[07:59] <gnomey> i've got an error "arp <incomplete>" to my gateway via wifi. after an install 16.04. it *worked* few hours ago. My install is from last day. did some little tuning (firewall, install then remove arpon) nothing special. but i'm not able to use network again. I tried debugging without success. can you help please
[07:59] <SailorMoon> whats up with Ubuntu Core for Raspberry Pi giving me an undervoltage warning from the stock image? lol
[08:01] <gnomey> the wifi moduled is iwlwifi .. any chance that it bugged ? :)
[08:06] <SailorMoon> also, it doesnt seem to work, at all. Lol
[08:09] <gnomey> ahah dmesg | grep iwlwifi => Direct firmware load for iwlwifi ....ucode failed with error -2. i'm going to upgrade fw :)
[08:12] <erabti_> guys, what's the meaning of "this utility works only on x11 season"??
[08:13] <akik> erabti_: there's no such thing, maybe x11 session?
[08:14] <erabti_> seesion* :)
[08:14] <erabti_> session*
[08:14] <ducasse> erabti_: don't crosspost, please
[08:19] <erabti_> akik: yes?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> !ping
[08:49] <sparrowsword> hello! using oracle vm virtualbox with a ubuntu install. keep running into the error "Not enough space on partition mounted at /. Need 4793040896 bytes. The ubuntu install is fresh with 100gb of space used at the start... any ideas?
[08:49] <cynosure> hi
[08:50] <YankDownUnder> sparrowsword: Resize the virtual drive to compensate.
[08:51] <cynosure> anyone know what changes if I purge remove cloud-initramfs-copymods then I reinstall? the symptom is that it results an empty /lib/modules after uninstall and only the content from initramfs image after reinstall
[08:51] <cynosure> if I reinstall the kernel images too, after reboot it's going away again
[08:53] <sparrowsword> YankDownUnder: already done, however to to effect :-.
[08:53] <sparrowsword> :-/
[08:53] <YankDownUnder> sparrowsword: What size is the drive - what size did you resize it to?
[08:53] <sparrowsword> 100gb
[08:53] <YankDownUnder> sparrowsword: Is that what the PARTITION is on that drive?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> sparrowsword, let's see what's happening here: lsblk | pastebinit
[08:54] <sparrowsword> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24484664/
[08:55] <cfhowlett> and now df -h | pastebinit
[08:56] <YankDownUnder> Something smells fishy...
[08:56] <cfhowlett> ya, too much 0%
[08:57] <sparrowsword> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24484680
[08:57] <YankDownUnder> 9gb used? On the / partition?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> according to the df -h, yes
[08:58] <sparrowsword> ???
[08:58] <YankDownUnder> I'm a bit lost in trying to find 100gb in all of this...
[08:59] <YankDownUnder> 10gb, yes, 100gb? Nah.
[08:59] <cfhowlett> sda = 100gb
[08:59] <YankDownUnder> Resize the partition to say, er 15gb or 20gb, boot to the "LiveCD" (the installation media) -> run gparted, resize the "/" partition...
[09:00] <YankDownUnder> (sda1 would be "/")
[09:01] <YankDownUnder> 12gb out of the 100gb leaves 88gb of...er...nothing...?
[09:01] <sparrowsword> so i need to shift the 100gb to the sda1 from sda?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> sparrowsword, try 20gb for sda, 15 for / and 5 for /swap
[09:03] <YankDownUnder> sparrowsword: Have the ISO boot - as if you're doing the installation again, but dont' do the install - run the "Partition Manager" to resize the sda1 partition - increase it to, er, what maybe 20gb as cfhowlett suggested? Something like that....then you're going to reboot the VM and you should have more than enough space left...
[09:03] <sparrowsword> hmm, alright I will try that
[09:03] <cynosure> anyone?
[09:03] <YankDownUnder> Ain't got nothing to lose...
[09:04] <sparrowsword> indeed
[09:08] <sparrowsword> YankDownUnder: any recommendations for virtual hard disk  vs virtualbox disk image vs virtual machine disk?
[09:08] <YankDownUnder> sparrowsword: "Virtualbox Disk Image" - easy to deal with - resize, recovery, snapshot - blah blah blah
[09:09] <sparrowsword> Thank you
[09:09] <anna_> Hi guys, my system does not shutdown ... here you have the log, it seems everythink ok but it obviously not...who can help me? thank you http://prntscr.com/f2h7gb
[09:09] <YankDownUnder> sparrowsword: All good, bro
[09:09] <sparrowsword> dynamic or fixed? im assuming dynamic
[09:09] <YankDownUnder> sparrowsword: Dynamic...definitely...resize "at whim"
[09:09] <sparrowsword> ok :)
[09:11] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Um...so the system just "sits" there...and that's all she wrote, right?
[09:11] <anna_> YankDownUnder, yep
[09:12] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Quickie question: When was the last time this machine shut down properly - and what was changed/updated/added from that point to now?
[09:12] <anna_> YankDownUnder, never ... ubuntu mate fresh install
[09:13] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Right oh. Since this is a brandy-new installation, have you done an update yet?
[09:13] <anna_> YankDownUnder, yep ... nothing to update/upgrade
[09:13] <YankDownUnder> anna_: I'll assume you're at the desktop now?
[09:13] <anna_> YankDownUnder, yes I am
[09:14] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Would you be kind enough to open a terminal, please...?
[09:14] <anna_> YankDownUnder, it is already open =)
[09:15] <YankDownUnder> In the terminal, can you type: sudo apt -y autoremove && sudo apt -y autoclean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade ==> and tell me what happens, please?
[09:16] <anna_> YankDownUnder, 0 to update, 0 installed, 0 to remove and 0 not updated
[09:17] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Cool. Happy with that. Right oh. Are you using any bluetooth devices or expect to use any bluetooth with this machine?
[09:17] <FManTropyx> System restart required!
[09:18] <anna_> YankDownUnder, I should not need the bluetooth
[09:19] <anna_> YankDownUnder, Im not using any bluetooth right now but it is turned on
[09:20] <YankDownUnder> anna_: in the terminal, can you type: sudo systemctl disable bluetooth
[09:20] <anna_> YankDownUnder, done
[09:20] <uL4m0g> how do I enable unity 8 on my ubuntu 17.04 ?? i typed in 'sudo apt-get install unity8-desktop-session' and it says unity8-desktop-session is already the newest version; it also says unity8-desktop-session set to manually installed
[09:21] <uL4m0g> what does that mean?
[09:21] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Can you now type: sudo systemctl disable apparmor
[09:21] <anna_> YankDownUnder, done
[09:21] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Would you like to now try a normal "shutdown" or a "restart" to see if the problem recurs?
[09:22] <anna_> YankDownUnder, ok =) thanks for helping, I ll let you know in a while
[09:22] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Coolbeans
[09:22] <YankDownUnder> uL4m0g: Have you tried to logout and choose a different "Desktop'?
[09:24] <uL4m0g> YankDownUnder, ah.. so its readily available at the login screen, thnx!
[09:24] <YankDownUnder> uL4m0g: Give it a shot, bro
[09:26] <anna_> YankDownUnder, problem is still there ...
[09:27] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Can you open a terminal again, please?
[09:27] <anna_> YankDownUnder, ready
[09:28] <YankDownUnder> anna_: type sudo systemctl disable bluetooth
[09:28] <YankDownUnder> !pastebin
[09:29] <anna_> YankDownUnder, https://pastebin.com/sf0QwP7D
[09:30] <Lemor> hey ubuntu support channel! I recently wanted to update my version from, I believe, 14.04 to the newest one but unluckily the updating process was interrupted. Now it doesnt boot, but only gives my the tty1 terminal and it apparently didnt update the core since I get an Import Error that apt couldnt be found. If I need to reinstall, how could I save my photo data or is there a way to save me from my issue?
[09:30] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Something to view is (in the terminal): !pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[09:31] <cfhowlett> Lemor, saving photos first: boot an ubuntu USB, navigate to your photos and save to external media
[09:31] <ducasse> Lemor: you can save all your stuff from a live usb. you could probably fix this, but it would take much longer than a reinstall.
[09:32] <Seveas> Lemor: after backing up your photos, but before giving up an reinstalling, just try this a few times to get apt to cooperate: sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:32] <anna_> YankDownUnder, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24484796/
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> yes
[09:34] <Lemor> cfhowlett, ducasse, seveas: thank you for the response! I´ll try to save my data in need with the ubuntu stick first
[09:35] <cfhowlett> happy2help
[09:37] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Could you now do (in the terminal): sudo !pastebinit /var/log/syslog.1
[09:39] <anna_> YankDownUnder, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24484821/
[09:41] <FireStriker> hey
[09:42] <YankDownUnder> anna_: In the same terminal, can you type: sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall [09:42] <FireStriker> im wondering about all linux distros is this the right place to ask questions?
[09:43] <YankDownUnder> FireStriker: Probably best in ##linux
[09:43] <FireStriker> thanks
[09:43] <anna_> YankDownUnder, 0 to update/istall/remove/not updated
[09:44] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Hmm...thinking...
[09:45] <dw1> gdm or lightdm ?
[09:45] <dw1> upgrading to 16.10 from 14.04
[09:46] <anna_> YankDownUnder, ok
[09:46] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Fresh installation, just basic and nothing special installed - yeah?
[09:46] <anna_> YankDownUnder, yep
[09:49] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Here's something interesting to try - so you might have to actually jot down some notes: Exit out of the terminal. Close all your apps. Logoff. Then hit CTRL+ALT+F1 => this will take you to a console terminal. Login as yourself. There is NOTHING graphical. Once you've logged in, type: sudo poweroff ==> make notes about the last lines that you're going to be seeing on the screen, eh?
[09:50] <anna_> YankDownUnder, ok
[09:51] <FireStriker> how do you tell what your specs are on ubuntu
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  lshw -html > hardware.html
[09:53] <FireStriker> terminal?
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> yes
[09:53] <anna_> YankDownUnder, nothing solved
[09:53] <YankDownUnder> anna_: What was it hanging on?
[09:53] <FireStriker> is it I or l?
[09:54] <anna_> YankDownUnder, yep the output is the same of the screenshot I uploaded
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  there's no I
[09:54] <FireStriker> lshw -html > hardware.html
[09:55] <RattelSwarm> Hello! I'm seeking for advise with Ubuntu 16.04 default utility named Disks. I've created a backup image of microSD card with this program and trying to restore it back with it. But it doesn't allow me, telling that 'The disk image is 1.0 Mb bigger than the target device'. It's a bit weird. How do I solve this stuff?
[09:55] <FireStriker> at the start is it cap i or l
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  yes, type that in a terminal window
[09:55] <anna_> YankDownUnder, I wrote sudo shutdown in the terminal, the ubuntumate appeared and froze..esc to see the output .. and it was the same of the screenshot
[09:55] <YankDownUnder> anna_: I'm boggled...because I'd have thought it was something to do with ACPI/Power - hence the drivers check - and something to do with the kernel - hence the update/upgrade....
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> FireStriker  there's no I
[09:55] <anna_> *ubuntumate logo
[09:55] <FireStriker> ok
[09:55] <blackflow> FireStriker: lowercase L, get a better font :)
[09:56] <FireStriker> im useing kiwi irc, theres a slight diffence i can see but its hard to notuce easly
[09:57] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Ok...can you repeat the last process, but, before doing "sudo poweroff", I'd ask you to do "sudo service lightdm stop" => and then do "sudo poweroff" => Eh?
[09:58] <ducasse> FireStriker: linux commands are *very* rarely written with capitals
[09:58] <FireStriker> ok
[09:58] <FireStriker> done but it didnt show anything
[09:58] <anna_> YankDownUnder, ok going
[09:59] <ducasse> FireStriker: it puts the output in a file called hardware.html, open it in a browser
[09:59] <FireStriker> found it
[10:02] <anna_> YankDownUnder, same output
[10:03] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Here's something to read through: https://askubuntu.com/questions/764568/ubuntu-16-04-hangs-on-shutdown-restart
[10:05] <ducasse> FireStriker: there are tons of programs to display hardware info in various ways, many available in the repos
[10:05] <YankDownUnder> anna_: It would appear that with "notebooks" - a fair amount of people have used the "acpi=force" option in the grub.conf to resolve the issue...just from reading...
[10:09] <irthewinner> guys, anyone know which ports i need to forward in firewall, to make the apt-get updates to work? (I've already forwarded port 80,443 but didn't work)
[10:10] <YankDownUnder> irthewinner: 53, 80, 8080, 443
[10:11] <ducasse> irthewinner: you are forwarding ports from the outside to an internal machine?
[10:11] <irthewinner> oh sec
[10:11] <irthewinner> rules from the iptables
[10:12] <irthewinner> ah so I need to add the 8080 and 53, one sec to check
[10:12] <YankDownUnder> 53 is DNS...important to have that opened.
[10:12] <YankDownUnder> 80 and 8080 are obviously http/https
[10:12] <anna_> YankDownUnder, the workaround didnt work ... I am going to change distro .. btw I was running cinnamon before mate and, radomly, the system froze, expecially when I was watching a movev/video ... the video froze and the sound looped .. I was told cinnamon was to heavy for my system (acer es1 411) and I was suggested to install ubuntumate ... but the problem is still there ... I am going nuts
[10:13] <anna_> any other distro I could try?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> anna_, you do not need to install another distro just another desktop environment
[10:13] <YankDownUnder> anna_: OOOOOoooooo....graphics driver, maybe, hmm...
[10:13] <cfhowlett> sudo apt install xfce4 lxde anna_          then logout, choose the alternative session and login
[10:13] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Give XFce a go "sudo apt-get -y install xfce-desktop"
[10:14] <FireStriker> can you give me an recomdation please ducasse
[10:14] <FManTropyx> I just did 'yum update'
[10:14] <cfhowlett> !yum | FManTropyx,
[10:14] <ducasse> FireStriker: inxi is a common cli tool
[10:15] <FireStriker> thanks
[10:15] <FManTropyx> oh, yeah, yum emulates apt-get... different distro :P
[10:15] <ducasse> FireStriker: there are gui tools too, search the apt repos if you need one
[10:16] <FireStriker> nan that did the track
[10:16] <FireStriker> tric
[10:16] <FireStriker> trick
[10:16] <FManTropyx> lol, track
[10:16] <cfhowlett> FManTropyx, this is ubuntu support only.  check your channel please.
[10:16] <anna_> cfhowlett, YankDownUnder thanks for your answers ... I will try xface or lxde ... but I still cannot shutdown the laptop ... YankDownUnder the workaround in the  guide didnt work in my case
[10:17] <YankDownUnder> anna_: There's a few other "tips" and links off that page...and as well, you can also check in #mate, #ubuntu-mate and #mate-dev
[10:17] <FManTropyx> yeah, sorry, my mistake :)
[10:18] <irthewinner> YankDownUnder, ducasse, ah I forwarded them but still not able to get the updates (I can surf the web but can't get the apt-get updates)
[10:18] <FManTropyx> I just tinker with my CentOS box on the side, so sometimes I become confused and I wonder why something doesn't work :D
[10:18] <anna_> YankDownUnder, thanks a lot for your help =)
[10:18] <YankDownUnder> anna_: Peace, be well.
[10:19] <YankDownUnder> irthewinner: How's about disabling the firewall and giving it a go - so that you know it's not "local" - and you SHOULD be able to update...then work out your firewall stuff later...hmm?
[10:20] <irthewinner> yeah when I disable it, it's working fine
[10:20] <irthewinner> from the iptables i mean
[10:20] <irthewinner> if i flush the iptables it works
[10:20] <YankDownUnder> irthewinner: It'll give you the impetus to work on your firewall AFTER you've done your updates...hmm...
[10:20] <RattelSwarm> Hello! I'm seeking for advise with Ubuntu 16.04. I've created a backup image of microSD card and trying to restore it back. But it doesn't allow me, telling that 'The disk image is 1.0 Mb bigger than the target device'. It's a bit weird. Same disk, same image, same system. How do I solve this stuff?
[10:21] <irthewinner> YankDownUnder, maybe I missed something but this is what I wrote:
[10:21] <irthewinner> sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT
[10:22] <irthewinner> same for FORWARD and OUTPUT
[10:23] <ducasse> irthewinner: are you allowing related and established connections?
[10:25] <irthewinner> hmmm
[10:26] <irthewinner> -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED -J ACCEPT
[10:26] <irthewinner> same for forward and output
[10:27] <mihalski_> is there an equivalent to this solution for ubuntu?
[10:27] <mihalski_> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/134483/why-my-ethernet-interface-is-called-enp0s10-instead-of-eth0/134485#134485
[10:27] <mihalski_> ie
[10:27] <mihalski_> ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules
[10:29] <ducasse> irthewinner: maybe read something like this article, as you seem to be just blindly doing this - https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-firewall-using-iptables-on-ubuntu-14-04
[10:29] <Seveas> mihalski_: yes. Accept the new naming and make use of it :)
[10:30] <blackflow> mihalski_: yes, see: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[10:30] <mihalski_> it's sucks.. might as well be en0102399284kwejhnfkjhsxdfbvkdxuygieos48ujtopeis978tusoeijnmgv ksdutyrswzo:
[10:30] <blackflow> mihalski_: section "I don't like this..."
[10:31] <mihalski_> it serves NO purpose when you only have one ethernet device
[10:31] <mihalski_> it's like making a square wheel in that instance
[10:31] <blackflow> mihalski_: fine, so fix it, you've been given a solution.
[10:32] <mihalski_> that solution doesn't seem to apply to ubuntu.. only to debian
[10:32] <blackflow> mihalski_: the one I've linked?
[10:33] <irthewinner> thanks ducasse, I will take a look at the link :)
[10:34] <mihalski_> backflow: that looks like a variation on the solution I posted.. but in either case.. those files do not exist.. is it the case that creating this link (ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link) will inhibit this behaviour?
[10:34] <mihalski_> I thought it was the same page initially
[10:34] <ducasse> irthewinner: what you were doing now is *dangerous* security wise, you need to understand what a rule does before you enable it. it might be easier for you to work with something like ufw or ferm.
[10:35] <mihalski_> more than that.. I had that page open already.. so I'm not sure why there are two different solutions
[10:35] <mihalski_> if it's a free desktop mandated thing it should be the same for debian and ubuntu
[10:36] <FireStriker> hi i have a toshiba satellite A200 laptop with a intel pentium dual T2390 1867MHz 2gb of ram that was running windows vista. im wanting to install a linux distro onto it.
[10:36] <FireStriker> want to know the best distro to install onto it
[10:37] <ducasse> FireStriker: lubuntu, maybe
[10:37] <ducasse> FireStriker: xubuntu might also suit you, try both
[10:38] <samgoody> Is it acceptable to ask about rsync here?
[10:38] <samgoody> I want to fix a sync that had the wrong arguments (was missing -E).
[10:38] <samgoody> With —force (# rsync -avr -E —force /source/ /dest/), it starts again from scratch which will take a few weeeks on my computer.
[10:38] <samgoody> Without —force it complains that it cannot overwrite the existing incorrect files.
[10:38] <samgoody> How can I have it update existing files but not start again from scratch?
[10:38] <irthewinner> ducasse, thanks :) resolved it
[10:39] <blackflow> mihalski_: you have three solutions posted by freedesktop, from that 99-default.link to grub config and kernel command line
[10:40] <blackflow> mihalski_: have you tried any of them? the 99-default.link and the udev rule for older versions are entirely different things.
[10:40] <mihalski_> I don't know that any of those changes affect existing interfaces as it's unclear.. and the linking is the one I'm most interested in, but confused by the variation of information I've found
[10:41] <mihalski_> i.e.. ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link vs ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules
[10:42] <mihalski_> I hate to blindly do things without having some level of understanding
[10:42] <blackflow> mihalski_: those are two entirely different things. the freedesktop article does not mention udev rules via that file
[10:42] <blackflow> mihalski_: so better do the official solution, that which freedesktop.org suggests
[10:43] <thofte_> hello, is this an appropriate channel to get some help if you're stuck with some networking problems on your ubuntu box?
[10:43] <mihalski_> do I understand correctly that if /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link points to a vacuum the persistent names will be overruled?
[10:43] <blackflow> mihalski_: masking the 99-default.link under /etc/systemd/network means you override whatever's in /lib/systemd/network/99-default.link, so check that file and see what's being overriden
[10:43] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:43] <ducasse> thofte_: depends, try us?
[10:43] <mihalski_> ok
[10:44] <mihalski_> that makes more sense
[10:44] <blackflow> mihalski_: yes, you override "vendor" defaults from /lib/systemd/... into /etc/systemd/...
[10:44] <thofte_> cool, thanks. when I go "curl www.google.com" I get connection refused on localhost port 8080
[10:44] <mihalski_> perfect.. thank you.. this is something I can understand
[10:44] <thofte_> also get connection refused when using python's request lib
[10:45] <wudo_honour> where can I find some info for shellcode.   simply   make me easy understand.
[10:46] <mihalski_> wow.. things sure have changed since I last administered linux
[10:46] <ducasse> thofte_: see if the http_proxy env var is set, 'echo $http_proxy'
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> !bash | Wulf
[10:46] <thofte_> browser works, ping works. I checked DNS, disabled firewalls and proxies
[10:46] <mihalski_> a network restart doesn't reconfigure the names.. so not sure if there is a way to auto redetect
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> Wulf  that was for wud blah
[10:47] <blackflow> mihalski_: no you'd have to reboot I think as that part's defined by the kernel on start up
[10:47] <thofte_> ducasse, I get 'localhost:8080'
[10:47] <blackflow> mihalski_: udev in concert with the kernel
[10:47] <ducasse> thofte_: 'unset http_proxy' then try again
[10:47] <mihalski_> let's see then
[10:48] <mihalski_> nope
[10:48] <mihalski_> guess I would need to actually delete and redirect the interfaces
[10:48] <thofte_> wow that was easy, seemed to help. thanks a bunch, ducasse
[10:49] <blackflow> mihalski_: the 99-default.link override doesn't revert to ethX upon reboot?
[10:49] <ducasse> thofte_: find out where http_proxy is set and remove it to make it permanent
[10:49] <mihalski_> doesn't appear to no
[10:49] <thofte_> ducasse: okay, I'm on it
[10:49] <blackflow> mihalski_: try the net.ifnames=0 kernel line, I've seen it work on 16.04
[10:50] <mihalski_> I'm thinking that once it generates the interfaces file it might want to stick to the name it chose initially
[10:53] <blackflow> mihalski_: it's possible that newever versions of udev default to predictable, so lack of NamePolicy doesn't revert. the systemd.link manpage states that net.ifnames=0 should work
[10:53] <mihalski_> trying to figure out where that kernel option goes
[10:54] <mihalski_> somewhere in grub I figure
[10:54] <mihalski_> but there are a bunch of files.
[10:54] <blackflow> mihalski_: yes, /etc/default/grub  add it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT string, at the end of it
[10:54] <blackflow> mihalski_: then run update-grub
[10:56] <mihalski_> ooh.. worried I broke it
[10:56] <thofte_> ducasse: okay, done and done. appears I was hoisted by my own petard. all is well now. have a good one
[10:57] <blackflow> mihalski_: ?
[10:57] <mihalski_> rebooted and I can't connect to it
[10:57] <ducasse> thofte_: you too :)
[10:57] <mihalski_> got to unplug and plug hdmi cables.. this may take a while :/
[10:58] <mihalski_> ie.. NEVER buy a Dell monitor.. no matter how good it is
[11:01] <mihalski_> Ok
[11:01] <mihalski_> The result is NO Ethernet interface.
[11:01] <blackflow> mihalski_: you have to change the network config now to work with eth0
[11:01] <blackflow> does ifup eth0 work?
[11:01] <mihalski_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/An4Pz2tN/1493550098.JPG
[11:03] <mihalski_> Unknown interface
[11:05] <mihalski_> Linux as easy as always :/
[11:05] <mihalski_> But at least you can see what is going wrong. Unlike windows.
[11:06] <blackflow> mihalski_: can you grep for it in dmesg?
[11:07] <blackflow> eth0 or just eth
[11:08] <BluesKaj> mihalski_, run ip addr in the console , lookmat the 2nd entry  it will look enp0xxx or su=ome such , that's your new eth0 name in systemd
[11:08] <mihalski_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/h9sAh5tB/1493550499.JPG
[11:09] <mihalski_> That APPEARS to be the wifi
[11:09] <mihalski_> Which I am not using at this stage.
[11:09] <blackflow> mihalski_: you've got a bridge there, so the bridge iface is the one you should control for IP/dhcp
[11:10] <mihalski_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/s7m9UB6M/1493550641.JPG
[11:10] <BluesKaj> mihalski_, did you see my post  above , 'scuse the typos , but I'm sure you'll understand it
[11:11] <mihalski_> Sorry.  Missed that
[11:11] <blackflow> mihalski_: yeah that's the "you have to change the network config" part I mentioned earlier, to auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:12] <blackflow> BluesKaj: he reverted to old ethX naming scheme
[11:12] <mihalski_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OpAx7Wqp/1493550727.JPG
[11:12] <BluesKaj> mihalski_, check your primary network interface in the url you jay posted
[11:12] <blackflow> mihalski_: right, so eth0 is there, just fix the interfaces for eth0 instead of enp3....
[11:13] <mihalski_> Same for 6: ?
[11:13] <mihalski_> To wlan0
[11:13] <blackflow> mihalski_: I don't know if that's wifi, that's a veth interface, part of your lxdbr
[11:13] <blackflow> mihalski_: you do have wlan0 separately it seems
[11:14] <blackflow> so first things first, fix /etc/network/interfaces and change en3p...   to eth0, then run ifup eth0
[11:14] <BluesKaj> mi no the primary network interface in /etc/network/interfaces. that's what your new systemd name for eth0
[11:14] <blackflow> BluesKaj: he reverted to old ethX naming scheme, don't confuse him now
[11:15] <BluesKaj> blackflow, how can revert , it'll just get overwritten again
[11:15] <blackflow> overwritten by what?
[11:15] <mihalski_> I changed a kernal parameter.
[11:15] <BluesKaj> network manager
[11:15] <blackflow> BluesKaj: NM does not touch interfaces file
[11:16] <mihalski_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ujpngRWq/1493550979.JPG
[11:16] <blackflow> mihalski_: there you go
[11:16] <blackflow> ipv4 on eth0 set by dhcp. you're good to go
[11:17] <mihalski_> Let's see if I can connect now
[11:18] <blackflow> mihalski_: btw, which 'buntu is this?
[11:18] <mihalski_> Not by hostname
[11:18] <mihalski_> That might need another restart
[11:18] <mihalski_> That's another question I wanted to ask.
[11:19] <blackflow> mihalski_: which ubuntu
[11:20] <BluesKaj>  ok , too many cooks , chngibg the kernel parameter might work  temporarily, but I;m pretty sure a reboot will rename eth0 again
[11:20] <kk4ewt> BluesKaj, https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[11:21] <mihalski_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5AJeGGmy/1493551256.JPG
[11:21] <blackflow> BluesKaj: how on earth, if the kernel parameter is used on boot?!
[11:21] <blackflow> the reboot was what set the eth0 in the first place, after configuring grub
[11:21] <BluesKaj> systemd has it's own rules
[11:21] <kk4ewt> since it is on the kernel line in grub it will be there each and every reboot, installing a new kernel should pick up that switch as well
[11:21] <mihalski_> starting to sound like magic to me
[11:21] <blackflow> BluesKaj: yes, and it observes net.ifnames=0 as per systemd documentation
[11:22] <blackflow> mihalski_: you're on 17.04, so now systemd-resolved is the resolver
[11:22] <blackflow> there've been reported some problems with it
[11:23] <mihalski_> Of course. It's not like there  are ever no problems.
[11:24] <blackflow> well, Ubuntu :)
[11:24] <mihalski_> Technology I general.
[11:25] <blackflow> mihalski_: can't find the askubuntu page now, but iirc the problem was with systemd-resolved not picking up DNS entries from dhcp (correctly)
[11:25] <mihalski_> I bet I come across more bugs and unexpected configurations than any other human.
[11:25] <blackflow> mihalski_: so temporarily you can set the upstream resolver via /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[11:25] <BluesKaj> where in systemd networking did you change to eth0, mihalski_?
[11:25] <blackflow> BluesKaj: he added net.ifnames=0 to the grub kernel line
[11:26] <mihalski_> Just the interfaces file
[11:26] <HollyWOOD> ciao
[11:26] <mihalski_> Yes. Also that.
[11:26] <blackflow> not also, that's THE setting to use old ethX names. the interfaces file just configured the eth0 iface
[11:26] <blackflow> otherwise the interfaces file has no way to change the iface name policy.
[11:27] <mihalski_> Yes. But once you change the setting you need to modify the interfaces file
[11:27] <BluesKaj> makes sense
[11:28] <blackflow> mihalski_: sure, as the previous iface name does not exist any more
[11:28] <HollyWOOD> tredici
[11:29] <mihalski_> And then when I switch the hdmi interfaces so I can access the machine remotely I have to wait multiple centuries to reconnect to see if things worked.
[11:30] <mihalski_> If we had the right to bear arms I would have shot myself in the head thousands of times out of frustration.
[11:32] <BluesKaj> whynot tjust keep the systemd name?  What did you accomplish by changing it back to eth0?
[11:32] <mihalski_> ah.. here we go.. finally clicked in
[11:32] <mihalski_> the ability to address it?
[11:33] <mihalski_> for all intents and purposes the oringal name might as well have been pi to the 20th digit
[11:33] <BluesKaj> if sysemd gave it as enp0sxxx why not address that  ?
[11:34] <mihalski_> because pi is easier to remember
[11:34] <BluesKaj> bah humbug :-0
[11:35] <mihalski_> 3.14159265359
[11:35] <mihalski_> I already know that
[11:35] <mihalski_> just like eth0
[11:36] <blackflow> mihalski_: there's also rules that govern enp... naming. https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/udev/udev-builtin-net_id.c#L20
[11:36] <mihalski_> the ubuntu default was like adding another 10 digits
[11:36] <blackflow> not necessarily, see the link above
[11:36] <blackflow> the comments explains systemd iface policy rules
[11:37] <mihalski_> I understand WHY.. i.e. to set unique names
[11:37] <mihalski_> but why do you need unique names when there is a a Toal of 1 interfaces?
[11:37] <mihalski_> total
[11:37] <blackflow> mihalski_: which is good esp with wifi. the old way was always wlan0. the new way allows to have different config for different physical usb thingy you plug in, just based on iface name it gets.
[11:38] <blackflow> mihalski_: because it's always predictable no matter if oyu have 1 or 100
[11:38] <mihalski_> again.. why do I need a unique name for ONE interface
[11:38] <FireStriker> how light is the cinnamon de?
[11:38] <blackflow> if your network config made a difference between "oh I have only one iface" and "oh I have several", it'd defeat the purpose
[11:38] <BluesKaj> well . I had no proibs whatspoever with the new name, however I can understand some users might want to take the trouble to rename it ...systemd impositions on previous settings that worked fine etc
[11:38] <antimist> Hey, all has anybody tried installing NVIDIA drivers for ubuntu 17.04
[11:38] <antimist> they don't seem to work
[11:39] <antimist> I tried both the graphics-drivers ppa
[11:39] <antimist> and the manual install
[11:39] <mihalski_> it makes TOTAL sense to differentiate between one and manyu
[11:39] <mihalski_> many
[11:39] <blackflow> mihalski_: at least, with ONE iface (onboard ethernets for example) it'll always be enp3sX
[11:39] <antimist> the Manual install fails to build on DKMS
[11:39] <antimist> any help?
[11:39] <blackflow> mihalski_: no it doesn't
[11:39] <blackflow> mihalski_: because YOU know it's one. software doesn't
[11:39] <mihalski_> otherwise you might need hostnames to differen
[11:39] <antimist> I have a GeForce 920M
[11:39] <mihalski_> differentiate
[11:39] <mihalski_> ubuntu? no!
[11:40] <mihalski_> ubuntu-a;wlhfdqwai4758934759w34oy7tvo9w3478u
[11:40] <mihalski_> there might be another
[11:40] <blackflow> well, whatev. :) you wanted ethX, you've got it. this is becoming heavily OT :)
[11:40] <mihalski_> this is CLEARLY designed for systems with multiple interfaces
[11:41] <Ben64> eh, it's designed for everything
[11:41] <mihalski_> still don't get why it's talking about 12.04
[11:41] <mihalski_> misdesigned more like
[11:41] <Ben64> sure, you can think that
[11:42] <mihalski_> otherwise it would be aware of what it detects
[11:42] <blackflow> mihalski_: you're free to use ubuntu 14.04 and no systemd to dictate your iface naming scheme. why do you even use 17.04? you want new tech? but then complain that it's new and evolving?
[11:43] <mihalski_> this should be an option on installation
[11:43] <mihalski_> not afterwards
[11:43] <blackflow> mihalski_: patches welcome
[11:43] <mihalski_> otherwise I welcome new options
[11:43] <cfhowlett> but it's not. enough ranting.  let's move on.
[11:43] <Ben64> what actual problem does it cause? none
[11:43] <antimist> well no nvidia users here, huh
[11:43] <antimist> sigh
[11:43] <Ben64> antimist: there are
[11:44] <mihalski_> but what's this all about?? is there something I'm missing?
[11:44] <mihalski_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/sc00IHuK/
[11:44] <Ben64> antimist: installs not from the ubuntu repositories are not supported here
[11:44] <antimist> Actually, I did that as well
[11:44] <mihalski_> this is PURELY ubuntu
[11:44] <antimist> still doesn't work
[11:45] <Ben64> antimist: ok
[11:45] <antimist> Ben64: It was nvidia-375, if I recall right
[11:45] <BluesKaj> antimist, nvisi here, i missed you original post
[11:45] <BluesKaj> nvidia
[11:46] <mihalski_> I. remember the joy of Nvidia drivers.. back in the day we were happy they even existed
[11:46] <BluesKaj> they still work
[11:46] <antimist> BluesKaj: Well, I on XUbuntu 17.04, and well have been trying to get the nvidia drivers to work, last time I checked they worked on 16
[11:46] <antimist> not sure, what the issue is right now
[11:46] <antimist> not XFCE, for sure
[11:47] <BluesKaj> antimist, is dkms installed?
[11:47] <antimist> yup
[11:47] <BluesKaj> which gpu antimist?
[11:47] <antimist> GeForce 920M
[11:48] <BluesKaj> isn't that an optimus hyprid ?
[11:48] <antimist> yup
[11:48] <BluesKaj> nvidia-prime then
[11:48] <antimist> It's on a Laptop, but normally, it should work for Acceleration
[11:49] <cynosure> is anyone here who upgraded from lts 14 to lts 16 without reinstalling the system?
[11:49] <antimist> and have that as well
[11:49] <BluesKaj> and bumblebee
[11:49] <antimist> that I don't have
[11:49] <BluesKaj> think bumblebee is available in a ppa now , antimist
[11:49] <cfhowlett> cynosure, doesn't really matter what others have.  state YOUR issues on YOUR system
[11:49] <Ben64> i thought bumblebee was depreciated
[11:50] <antimist> but I did that on purpose since, I didn't need it auto switching
[11:50] <antimist> only thing I required was to be able to use the GPU
[11:50] <BluesKaj> ben ir was , but some devs offer a new version afaik
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Ben64,^
[11:50] <Ben64> i try to stay far away from optimus
[11:51] <antimist> I technically have, so, all I do is use the nvidia-settings
[11:51] <BluesKaj> yeah, ok for windows users, but i's hit and miss on Linux
[11:51] <antimist> unfortunately, that would never shift to the NVIDIA card
[11:51] <cynosure> cfhowlett: I did it previously but I nailed the problem finally. I had an openvz lts 14 which is upgraded to 16 with do-release-upgrade, that was fine, but after migrating from openvz to kvm some month later (yesterday) something went wrong
[11:52] <cynosure> cfhowlett: the problem was with module_dep.sh in init.d
[11:52] <cynosure> but this was a several hours long debug, symtomps is after reboot you have an empty /lib/modules
[11:52] <cynosure> on openvz its not really an issue, but on kvm...
[11:53] <RattelSwarm> Hello! I'm seeking for advise with Ubuntu 16.04. I've created a backup image of microSD card (.img format) with Ubuntu and trying to restore it back. But it doesn't allow me, telling that 'The disk image is 1.0 Mb bigger than the target device'. It's a bit weird. Same disk, same image, same system. Have you faced such a situation?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> antimist, I 've heard someusers blacklist the intel gpu and run on nvidia gpu exclusively at the expense of battery
[11:53] <antimist> BluesKaj: One thing I came across was that NVIDIA drivers didn't build on Linux 4.10, but that was a couple of months ago
[11:53] <antimist> I'll have to check that on the blacklisting of intel
[11:54] <cynosure> cfhowlett: why I ask if anyone have an upgraded system is to check if her/his system also have this script yet and causing any troubles or not
[11:54] <cfhowlett> cynosure noted.
[11:54] <antimist> BluesKaj: but mine technically, still needs the intel one since, mine is purely for acceleration not VGA
[11:54] <Tims_Tech> So I decompiled my dsdt and have a dsdt.dsl file, I genrated a dsdt template with c2ctl(https://github.com/Manouchehri/c2ctl ), and my question now is: Where do I insert the generated dsdt template from c2ctl ( https://pastebin.com/uQkCVN1U ) into my decompiled dsdt( https://pastebin.com/x4eNwarr ) ?
[11:55] <antimist> BluesKaj: One another thing, I get a couple of errors when I opened nvidia-settings, which said, that it couldn't load some configs
[11:56] <BluesKaj> antimist, haven't seen that about the 4.10 kernel and nvidia because I'm running the 4,10 with nvidia and no problems , altho it's considered a legacy driver
[11:57] <antimist> ah okay,, but which one are you running?
[11:57] <antimist> I'm currently trying to install nvidia-375 from the Ubuntu main repo
[11:57] <BluesKaj> my gpu is an entry level 8400GS on the 340 driver
[11:58] <BluesKaj> is that what additional drivers recommends?
[11:58] <BluesKaj> antimist, the 375
[11:59] <antimist> Technically, no it recommends to install 381, since I have graphics driver ppa
[11:59] <antimist> but 381 is a beta driver
[11:59] <Ben64> well the ppa isn't supported here :|
[11:59] <antimist> Ben64: As I said, I'm installing the 375 from the Ubuntu Main Repo
[11:59] <BluesKaj> antimist, did you try the the 375, I have to ask
[12:00] <antimist> installing now, and I've tried it it before
[12:00] <antimist> give me a sec have to reboot
[12:00] <BluesKaj> antimist, did you delete the ppa
[12:03] <antimist> BluesKaj: haven't actually , but from apt-cache show nvidia-375
[12:04] <antimist> the maintainers are: Maintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[12:05] <antimist> BluesKaj: Rebooted, and well, opening nvidia-settings
[12:06] <antimist> I get: nvidia-settings could not find the registry key file. This file should have been installed along with this driver at /usr/share/nvidia/nvidia-application-profiles-key-documentation.
[12:07] <antimist> BluesKaj: okay, so changing it in any case there, gotta log out.
[12:08] <antimist> BluesKaj: Back, and well, the settings still shows Intel
[12:09] <antimist> Could it be a settings thing?
[12:13] <antimist> welp, anyway, checking if I can manually select NVIDIA
[12:14] <BluesKaj> antimist, not real intimate with optimus' nvidia settings
[12:15] <BluesKaj> I'm not
[12:15] <antimist> Um, not really using Optimus
[12:15] <antimist> But, on Ubuntu 16, just a normal NVIDIA Prime profile change would work
[12:16] <BluesKaj> I see, hope it does
[12:16] <antimist> BluesKaj: It doesnt
[12:16] <antimist> I mean a prime profile change
[12:16] <antimist> though checking if a xorg.conf modification could
[12:17] <BluesKaj> that's another thing, not sure if nvidia-xconfig is needed with your settings
[12:18] <antimist> BluesKaj: Another thing, I can't really find a nvidia-xconfig
[12:19] <antimist> is that a good thing?, pretty sure it's not
[12:21] <Doow> Hi, I'm having some problem installing ubuntu on one of my machines. The installation process looks fine, but I can't get it to boot. I'm trying to install to a single disk that I don't mind if it's completely wiped.
[12:22] <ikonia> could you define "can't get it to boot" please
[12:22] <compdoc> what happens when you boot?
[12:25] <Doow> ikonia: sure, when installing I have to use nomodeset as my graphics card isn't working correctly otherwise (nvidia gtx970). I can't find any way to add that option when installing. Basically I get some really odd graphics effects that might be it booting properly but not setting the graphics mode I want, or it might just be that everything is broken. The boot option "ubuntu" is added to bios next to the hard drive, so I'm pretty sure that it actually tries to
[12:25] <Doow> boot from ubuntu.
[12:26] <Doow> or from grub at least
[12:26] <antimist> Doow: Do you get a nouveau, and which Ubuntu btw?
[12:26] <ikonia> Doow: so the problem is from your perspective, you need to add the nodmodeset boot option to your installed system
[12:28] <Doow> ikonia: that might be the solution. I tried adding it retroactively using Boot-Repair, but couldn't get it to change anything
[12:28] <Doow> antimist: it's 17.04 desktop, I'm not sure what nouveau is
[12:29] <antimist> Doow: It's the default Nvidia ggraphics driver
[12:29] <ikonia> Doow: do you get a grub menu up when you start the machine
[12:29] <compdoc> is it booting from the 'ubuntu' in the list, or is it boot the drive directly? usually, the ubuntu choice is uefi, and you should have it boot that
[12:29] <antimist> Doow: and I seem to be having trouble as well with the NVIDIA driver
[12:29] <Doow> ikonia: no, I tried holding down shift, but it doesn't trigger any visible change
[12:29] <antimist> The official one that is
[12:30] <Doow> antimist: aha
[12:30] <ikonia> Doow: do you get the grub menu yes/no
[12:30] <Doow> ikonia: no
[12:30] <ikonia> Doow: ok, so thats the first thing you need to get fixed
[12:31] <ikonia> Doow: as I suspect you'll need to do a few trial/tests to get this working properly
[12:31] <antimist> Doow: I agree with ikonia on this one
[12:32] <Doow> compdoc: it's booting from ubuntu, I know this, because if it boots from the regular drive it removes the ubuntu option in bios
[12:32] <Doow> ikonia: I don't mind doing several trials, I'm pretty stuck right now
[12:33] <antimist> Doow: Any chance of you reaching the root Terminal or does it just go black after starting?
[12:34] <Doow> antimist: it's not black, at all, it looks like a garbled screen with the default ubuntu colors at top, and then black below.
[12:35] <Doow> similar to how it looks if I run the installer without nomodeset
[12:35] <ioria> Doow, can you open a console ? ctrl+alt+f1 (f2) ?
[12:37] <luis> hi
[12:37] <Doow> ioria: no
[12:39] <Doow> I tried using ssh to connect as well, but I just got connection refused
[12:40] <ducasse> Doow: the desktop hasn't got sshd by default, afaik
[12:40] <ioria> Doow,  when exactly do those strange colors appear  on the screen ?
[12:40] <Doow> ducasse: oh :(
[12:40] <ducasse> Doow: if you've tried holding left shift on boot, try spamming it instead. also try escape.
[12:41] <Doow> ducasse: ok
[12:42] <Doow> is there any way to change what packages are installed? (on the server version i got to select from a list if I remember correctly)
[12:42] <tarzeau> wow ubuntu 17.04 doesn't support ppc anymore?
[12:42] <tarzeau> (powerpc)
[12:43] <ioria> Doow, if shift not working, try ESC
[12:44] <ducasse> Doow: you can install with the lubuntu alternate image, that uses the same installer as server and lets you select packages
[12:44] <Schwarzbaer> Hi. I want to edit large, image-heavy PDFs; The Eclipse Phase books, if that means something to you. When I open them in LibreOffice, my machine comes to a grinding halt. Is there an editor that's lighter on the resources? Or is there a way to strip out some or all images? Text-only would be sufficient for me.
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> Schwarzbaer  try pdfmod and pdf shuffler
[12:46] <Schwarzbaer> Thanks, MonkeyDust
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> !info pdfshuffler
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> !info pdfmod
[12:54] <RattelSwarm> Hello! I'm seeking for advise with Ubuntu 16.04. I've created a backup image of microSD card (.img format) with Ubuntu Disks and trying to restore it back. But it doesn't allow me, telling that 'The disk image is 1.0 Mb bigger than the target device'. It's a bit weird. Same disk, same image, same system. Have you faced such a situation?
[12:54] <Doow> Oh, I don't know if this is important, but at the screen at the end of installation that says "please remove the installation medium, then press enter" it never reboots on its own.
[12:55] <filippo> hello
[12:55] <ioria> Doow, that's not the issue
[12:56] <antimist> RattelSwarm: I haven't
[12:56] <antimist> RattelSwarm: Though, I manuall use dd to create the images
[12:56] <antimist> Could you resize the images and try?
[12:57] <filippo> There's anyone here????
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> filippo  type    /names
[12:57] <filippo> thanks ahah
[12:59] <SimonNL> wow that's a lot
[13:00] <RattelSwarm> antimist: Thank you! I'm new to Ubuntu. Do I get it right, that I should use the following command to restore the image: 'if=/media/location/backup.img of=/dev/MICROSD_ID'?
[13:01] <RattelSwarm> antimist: I mean, with dd
[13:13] <irina___> hello, can you please help me with a problem i have with a micro sd card
[13:13] <irina___> ?
[13:16] <irina___> my computer cannot read my sd card
[13:23] <aDrz> hello guys
[13:24] <BluesKaj> irina___, how large is the sdcard capacity, if over 16GB the card reader may not recognize it
[13:24] <aDrz> have a little problem to make my microphone works under ubuntu
[13:24] <irina___> 8 GB
[13:26] <BluesKaj> irina___, is there a bootable OS image on it?
[13:26] <irina___> yes
[13:26] <BluesKaj> irina___, md5sum?
[13:27] <antimist> BluesKaj: Okay, after a lot more testing
[13:27] <irina___> no, it's an image for a linux
[13:27] <irina___> for an udoo neo
[13:27] <antimist> BluesKaj: I have come to the conclusion that I'm skipping out on the NVIDIA driver
[13:27] <antimist> they have a patch upstream
[13:27] <antimist> but hasn't been present on the Ubuntu ppa's
[13:28] <irina___> i installed it on a friend's laptop and then tried to connect the udoo neo to my ubuntu(just installed)
[13:28] <BluesKaj> antimist, ok
[13:28] <irina___> but it doesnt show me anything
[13:28] <antimist> BluesKaj: I got it to compile, but well, my display became very low res.
[13:28] <irina___> so i want to write the image again
[13:28] <antimist> BluesKaj: anyway, thanks for everything
[13:29] <irina___> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 apr 30 15:42 /dev/sda brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 apr 30 15:42 /dev/sda1 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 2 apr 30 15:42 /dev/sda2 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 5 apr 30 15:42 /dev/sda5
[13:29] <irina___> thats what it shows when i check for the connections
[13:31] <para000> hi guys
[13:32] <para000> anyone familiar with the new IPN for paypal with SSL?
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> para000  how is that ubuntu related
[13:34] <BluesKaj> irina___, dunno about  udoo neo, if that's an arm image, suggest you search for a related chat
[13:41] <Doow> Progress! I got to the grub screen (using esc) Now I'm pretty sure that the installer installs something on my usb stick though, I noticed I can't boot 'ubuntu' unless the usb stick is inserted in the usb slot (previously I've just changed to 'ubuntu' in bios without removing the stick.
[13:41] <freelancerbob> halo is there command, library to check what i have download or which folders have been filled ? because yesterday i had 18 GB free and now only 500 MB
[13:41] <Doow> freelancerbob: you can use du / -sh *
[13:42] <Doow> freelancerbob: replace / with whatever path you want to investigate
[13:43] <gde33> I remember seeing something to normalize all audio but I cant find it anymore
[13:43] <gde33> anyone remember the name?
[13:43] <Doow> freelancerbob: there's also a graphical tool called Disk usage analyzer
[13:45] <freelancerbob> Doow: du / -sh * show only total space
[13:46] <grek> czesc zkupilem nas synology 216 i mam takie pytanie jaki protokuł jest odpowiedni żeby zamontować tego nasa ? przez ftp nfs czy jeszcze jakos inaczej
[13:46] <grek> chodzi mi o zamontowanie - synchronizacje cloud ustawilem ale chce miec tez pewne zasoby dostepne jako "lokalne" bez synchronizacji
[13:47] <Doow> freelancerbob: oops, it should be du /* -sh
[13:47] <faugusztin> grek: no offense, but i doubt many people speak polish here
[13:47] <grek> sory
[13:47] <faugusztin> grek: and what protocol to use with NAS ? That is up to you. :)
[13:48] <faugusztin> you know if you want use SMB or NFS or FTP or whatever :)
[13:48] <grek> i have nas synology it have all protocols - samba, nfs, sftp, ftp - i want mount it
[13:48] <faugusztin> i would say you probably want to look at the first two
[13:48] <grek> with is less resources and spee
[13:48] <Doow> freelancerbob: there are a number of parameters you can change for the output of du. check man du for details
[13:48] <faugusztin> that i do not know. i always used SMB for all my operating systems
[13:48] <grek> in ftp i have almoust 100 MB transfer so its ok
[13:49] <faugusztin> most protocols will do that
[13:49] <aakyaa> exit
[13:49] <aakyaa> \q
[13:49] <faugusztin> he succeeded :P
[13:51] <grek> i think abount cache (large folders )  maybe there is some correct way
[13:52] <Doow> Is it possible to scroll back in grub? neither less nor shift+pgup seems to be working
[13:53] <Doow> a lot of the help pages are more than one screen in height
[13:54] <SimonNL> scroll wheel ?
[13:54] <SimonNL> slider on the side ?
[13:55] <Doow> SimonNL: nope, scroll wheel does nothing and there's no slider :(
[13:55] <Doow> SimonNL: doesn't seem to be a mouse cursor either, so I guess there's no mouse support
[13:55] <ducasse> Doow: no mouse support in grub, no.
[13:56] <Doow> ducasse: any other way to scroll back? =)
[13:56] <SimonNL> what did you mean about "in grub"
[13:56] <EriC^^> Doow: what are you trying to do overall?
[13:57] <Doow> EriC^^: I'm trying to load the default boot option, but with added nomodeset.
[13:57] <EriC^^> Doow: press "e" over it and go to the line with linux /boot/vmlinuz and add it then press ctrl+x
[13:57] <Doow> SimonNL: I just booted my computer and pressed esc to be able to modify how ubuntu is loaded
[13:58] <Doow> EriC^^: I'm at a shell-like interface, I don't know how to get to the regular menu
[13:58] <SimonNL> that's the log you're seeing I think
[13:59] <EriC^^> Doow: press esc
[13:59] <EriC^^> Doow: or type "normal"
[13:59] <ducasse> SimonNL: no, he's in the grub shell
[13:59] <Doow> EriC^^: esc didn't work, but normal did, thanks!
[13:59] <SimonNL> >
[14:01] <Doow> Hmmm there's a lot of stuff here, should I remove the gfxmode line if I'm using nomodeset?
[14:01] <EriC^^> Doow: no
[14:01] <Doow> does the order of the lines matter? (if so, where does nomodeset go?)
[14:01] <robhol> I'm trying to install weechat-plugins after adding their repo. It complains about this: "Depends: libv8-3.14.5 but it is not installable" - based on googling this is some js-related thing, but I can't figure out what to do in order to install it? If trying to install it directly: "Package libv8-3.14.5 is not available, but is referred to by another package." / "has no installation candidate"
[14:02] <EriC^^> Doow: put it after quiet splash
[14:03] <ducasse> robhol: which ubuntu version?
[14:03] <robhol> 16.04 xomething
[14:04] <robhol> I've actually just done a buttload of release upgrades, from, I think it was 14.10
[14:04] <ducasse> robhol: you probably selected the wrong repo on the weechat repo page
[14:05] <robhol> don't think so. weechat.org/ubuntu xenial main
[14:06] <ducasse> !info libv8-3.14.5 xenial
[14:06] <ducasse> robhol: is the universe repo enabled?
[14:06] <robhol> how do I check that? sources.list?
[14:07] <ducasse> or 'software and updates' in settings
[14:07] <robhol> it's a headless box
[14:07] <K-ubuntuer> Hi
[14:07] <ducasse> robhol: then sources.list
[14:08] <robhol> "xenial main" - xenial-updates has main, restricted, universe etc
[14:09] <ducasse> robhol: have you also got 'xenial universe'?
[14:09] <robhol> Nope, main is the only one in that particular line. Should I add it?
[14:10] <ducasse> robhol: yes. 'deb http://whatever xenial universe'
[14:11] <Prince> my webcam isn't working
[14:11] <Prince> in my sony vaio laptop
[14:11] <Guest35093> anyone please help me
[14:11] <Guest35093> anyone
[14:12] <Guest35093> ??
[14:12] <ducasse> !patience | Guest35093
[14:12] <robhol> ducasse: can I just append it to the line like the rest?
[14:14] <ducasse> robhol: just add a line like that
[14:14] <Guest35093> ducasse are you bot
[14:15] <ducasse> Guest35093: no
[14:15] <Guest35093> can you help me
[14:15] <Guest35093> ducase can you help me
[14:16] <ducasse> Guest35093: just wait, and someone will help you
[14:16] <Guest35093> okh
[14:17] <robhol> hmm. That led to a lot less whining while trying to install, better restart weechat and see if it helped
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> Guest35093  start with a question
[14:18] <robhol> ducasse: seems to be working a lot better - thanks!
[14:19] <Guest35093> robhol can you help me
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest35093  what brings you here
[14:20] <kk4ewt> Guest35093, how are you testing it
[14:20] <kk4ewt> install cheese and see it that sees the cam
[14:20] <ducasse> robhol: np
[14:20] <Guest35093> my webcam isn't working in ubuntu 16.04 lts MonkeyDust
[14:20] <robhol> Guest35093: since I came here mostly because I'm clueless, I doubt it
[14:20] <Guest35093> okh robhol
[14:21] <Guest35093> kk4ewt i don't understand
[14:21] <kk4ewt> you are saying the cam doesnt work, how are you testing that
[14:22] <Guest35093> i tested using cheese webcam
[14:22] <Guest35093> i tested using cheese webcam  kk4ewt
[14:23] <pynki> Guest35093, first: did you ever unconnected the cam? whats the output of lsusb?
[14:23] <Guest35093> and on skype tried to video chat and on hangout also but cam doesn't work
[14:23] <ioria> Guest35093, lsusb
[14:24] <pynki> is it a fixed cam in a laptop or a usb cam connected to a laptop/desktop pc?
[14:24] <Guest35093> wait
[14:24] <ioria> Guest35093, lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:25] <Guest35093> pynki it's a fixed cam connected to my sony vaio laptop
[14:25] <ioria> Guest35093, vaio has problem with the chipset ricoh R5U87x
[14:25] <Guest35093> here is the output of lsusb https://pastebin.com/P0jDp8hU
[14:26] <Guest35093> iorio and pynki have you seen the output of lsusb
[14:27] <pynki> yes
[14:27] <pynki> no cam :/
[14:27] <ioria> Guest35093,  i don't even see it
[14:27] <ioria> Guest35093,  what vaio model ?
[14:27] <Guest35093> no Acer once is cam
[14:27] <Guest35093> vpceh36EN
[14:27] <pynki> you are sure you didn' get paranoia and disconnected it ? ;)
[14:28] <Guest35093> yes i am sure because whenever i use cheese or tried to video chat green light show
[14:28] <pynki> the 5https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?id=usb:5986-0510 you are right - the acer inc device seems to be tha camera
[14:29] <ioria> Guest35093,  acer is cam ?
[14:29] <Guest35093> ioria yes Acer is cam
[14:30] <pynki> Guest35093, did the cam ever worked? windows? linux? dos? whatever...
[14:30] <Guest35093> windows
[14:30] <Guest35093> it always works fine in windows
[14:31] <Guest35093> pynki it always works fine in windows
[14:32] <pynki> do you have a videoX device in /dev?
[14:33] <Guest35093> yes
[14:33] <pynki> ls al /dev | grep video
[14:33] <pynki> one or two?
[14:34] <Guest35093> here is the output of ls /dev | grep video  ( ls /dev | grep video  video0)
[14:34] <Guest35093> here is the output of ls /dev | grep video  ( video0)
[14:34] <pynki> gst-launch1.0  v4l2src device=/dev/video0 ! autovideosink (does that command even run? gstreamer 1.0 installed?)
[14:34] <Guest35093> pynki output of your given command is "video0"
[14:35] <Guest35093> let me check pynki
[14:35] <pynki> http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/#devices does not show the device in its list :/
[14:36] <Guest35093> gstreamer 1.0 isn't installed but i installed it
[14:37] <Guest35093> pynki  how to install gst-launch1.0
[14:37] <pynki> apt-get install gstreamer1.0 i think
[14:38] <Doow> Ok, I'm stuck once again, I tried adding nomodeset to the boot option which works in that it doesn't set a broken video mode. however, I'm not getting anything other than a solid purple screen, no matter how long I wait. I tried removing quiet splash to see if I could get some output, but no luck. just purple
[14:38] <pynki> Guest35093, can you check the 'lsmod' output for something like 'uvc' ?
[14:39] <pynki> the web tells me that the cam should be using the uvc cam driver
[14:39] <pynki> https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?probe=5c620d427b
[14:39] <Guest35093> pynki   "05ca:18b7	Sony Visual Communication Camera (Sony VPCS12J1E notebooks)	Ricoh  "  but instad of VPCS12J1E mine VPCEH36EN
[14:41] <ioria> Guest35093,  ok
[14:41] <Guest35093> pynki here is the output of lsmod https://pastebin.com/RwVRbJ50
[14:42] <pynki> the uvc driver is loaded
[14:42] <Guest35093> yes
[14:42] <pynki> 'dmesg | grep UVC' gives you output?
[14:43] <pynki> 'dmesg | grep uvcvideo' ?
[14:44] <ioria> Guest35093,  so this is your cam  , 05ca:18b7 Sony Visual Communication Camera  ?
[14:44] <Guest35093> lsmod uvcdmesg | grep uvcvideo      output ( Usage: lsmod )
[14:44] <Guest35093> ioria yes
[14:45] <pynki> ioria, no its not his cam
[14:45] <pynki> 5986:0510 this is
[14:45] <ioria> Guest35093,  sorry to ask, where did you get it from  ?
[14:45] <pynki> Guest35093, just 'dmesg | grep uvcvideo'
[14:46] <Guest35093> ioria what
[14:46] <ioria> Guest35093,  this pciid  :  05ca:18b7 Sony Visual
[14:47] <ioria> because it matches with a sony vaio model
[14:47] <pynki> ioria, https://pastebin.com/RwVRbJ50 look at this lsmod output. the uvcvideo driver is loaded. and the id is 5986:0510
[14:47] <Guest35093> pynki here is the output of dmesg | grep uvcvideo https://pastebin.com/8vfuWbsj
[14:47] <ioria> pynki, oh, ok
[14:48] <Guest35093> ioria yes
[14:48] <pynki> Guest35093, ok. cam is recognized, driver loaded. so why is it not working :/
[14:48] <ioria> firmware
[14:48] <ioria> https://launchpad.net/~r5u87x-loader/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:48] <Guest35093> i don't know
[14:49] <Guest35093> pynki i don't know
[14:50] <Guest35093> ioria my laptop model isn't listed in this ppa
[14:55] <Guest35093> pynki??
[14:56] <Guest35093> ioria ?? what happened
[14:56] <ioria> Guest35093,  what you mean ?
[14:56] <Guest35093> what next i should do
[14:57] <Guest35093> ioria what i should do
[14:57] <ioria> Guest35093,  i asked you before why you wrote above ""05ca:18b7 Sony Visual Communication Camera (Sony VPCS12J1E notebooks) Ricoh  "  but instad of VPCS12J1E mine VPCEH36EN"
[14:58] <ioria> Guest35093, why ?
[14:59] <Guest35093> ioria because model of my laptop is VPCEH36EN and  on this website http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/#devices this is showing of model VPCS12J1E
[14:59] <ioria> Guest35093, ok
[15:00] <Guest35093> ioria what next
[15:02] <ioria> Guest35093, i'd try the ppa , you can always purge it with ppa-purge
[15:04] <Guest35093> ioria in that ppa my sony laptop model isn't showing
[15:04] <ioria> Guest35093, ah
[15:05] <Guest35093> ioria so what i should do ?
[15:07] <skinux> I need someone who knows Apache to help me fix it. I can't seem to get FastCGI enabled
[15:08] <ioria> Guest35093, you can try a livecd of the latest ubuntu release 14.04
[15:08] <ioria> Guest35093, sy, 17.04
[15:09] <skinux> Or, official documentation for installing and configuring Apache2, PHP (FastCGI), MySQL
[15:09] <Guest35093> i already tired that ioria
[15:09] <Doow> I'm suspecting that grub somehow depends on my usb key to load, I have no idea how, but if I remove the usb key after installing ubuntu I can't even get grub to load.
[15:10] <pynki> Guest35093, sry...have a baby here crying sometimes :P
[15:11] <Doow> Is it common with computers where it's not possible to install ubuntu at all? (installing it before has always been pretty easy, but on this machine I have no luck at all)
[15:11] <bonsaitree> I like how in 17.04, they fixed the lag that was present when you run out of battery, and then log in again.
[15:11] <bonsaitree> I used to get terrible video performance after i plugged in AC and log in
[15:11] <Guest35093> pynki are married ?
[15:12] <Doow> I spent several days with almost no progress now :(
[15:12] <pynki> ioria, Guest35093 the dstrange thing is that the driver gets loaded but the cam does not work. did you tried the gstreamer pipeline with gst-launch?
[15:12] <pynki> Guest35093, yes, dsome time ago...
[15:12] <Guest35093> pynki no
[15:12] <Guest35093> are you women ?
[15:13] <Guest35093> pynki are you women ?
[15:13] <pynki> Guest35093, try it. apt-get install gstreamer1.0* , no i am a man. but its my baby too :P
[15:13] <Guest35093> ohh pynki
[15:13] <pynki> and its deep at night here - so when the baby cries someone needs to run....
[15:13] <Guest35093> i already installed gstreamer.1
[15:14] <Guest35093> ohh pynki i can understnad
[15:14] <Guest35093> understand ?
[15:14] <pynki> then run 'gst-launch1.0 v4l2src device=/dev/video0 ! autovideosink
[15:14] <pynki> '
[15:14] <pynki> if you have a desktop running...
[15:15] <Guest35093> pynki okh
[15:15] <pynki> Guest35093, better to run 'export GST_DEBUG=4' before the gst-launch command
[15:15] <jacob> ls
[15:15] <pynki> to see in detail where it fails. it might help us to figure out whats wrong
[15:15] <jacob> Hey
[15:16] <Guest11655> I need help, for some reason aparently the 'a' key on my ubuntu machine opens sublime now. I checked the shortcuts and it's not been assigned there
[15:17] <Guest11655> Any help would be really good - I'm at my wit's end trying to find where it's been assigned
[15:18] <Guest11655> Anyone?
[15:18] <Guest35093> pynki https://pastebin.com/rJbtgvAC
[15:19] <Guest11655> Seriously please is there anyone here that can help? there is like 1800 peole on rn...
[15:19] <Guest11655> people*
[15:20] <pynki> Guest35093, installed gstreamer1.0 or 1.0* ?
[15:20] <pynki> we will need 1.0*
[15:20] <Guest35093> Guest11655 wait anyone will help you have patience
[15:20] <pynki> for the v4l2src element to read the cam.
[15:21] <Guest35093> pynki gstreamer1.0
[15:21] <Guest35093> okh pynki
[15:22] <Guest35093> pynki The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gstreamer1.0-hybris:i386 : Depends: libmedia1:i386 but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[15:24] <pynki> Guest35093, apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-base gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly
[15:24] <pynki> good and base should be enough
[15:24] <pynki> but just to make sure
[15:24] <skinux> Can someone give me a link to official doc for configuring apache2, PHP7 (FastCGI)? I'm trying to search for it, but only coming up with AskUbuntu.com and various tutorials.
[15:24] <pynki> ...
[15:25] <Guest35093> pynki both are already installed
[15:26] <pynki> skinux, https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_proxy_fcgi.html
[15:27] <pynki> Guest35093, gst-inspect1.0 | grep v4l            any output?
[15:27] <skinux> Well, hmm, it says I have to have mod_proxy_fcgi, but that's not even in the repos.
[15:27] <pynki> skinux, if thats the wrong module: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/
[15:27] <pynki> and find the one you need
[15:28] <Guest35093> give me a sec pynki
[15:29] <pynki> !info libapache2-mod-php7 | skinux
[15:29] <pynki> !info libapache2-mod-php7 .0 | skinux
[15:29] <skinux> I'm not on Zesty, on Xenial
[15:30] <ioria> !info libapache2-mod-php7.0 xenial
[15:30] <Guest35093> pynki here is the output of gst-inspect-1.0 | grep v4l https://pastebin.com/XbUE5fjC
[15:30] <pynki> i find it on my xenial server install. 'apt-cache search apache2 | grep php' skinux
[15:31] <skinux> I already have that package installed
[15:31] <skinux> It's mod_proxy_fcgi that it doesn't have, which is said to be required by the documentation
[15:31] <pynki> Guest35093, you run 'gst-launch' do you have 'gst-launch1.0'? not sure what it is running 1.0 or 0.10
[15:32] <Guest35093> pynki gst-launch-1.0 works fine not gst-launch1.0
[15:32] <ioria> Guest35093,  maybe time to check dmesg ...
[15:33] <pynki> Guest35093, ohhh ok. writing out of my head - no gstreamer install running here ;) take the -1.0 one
[15:33] <Guest35093> okh ioria
[15:34] <Guest35093> pynki still same error (ERROR: pipeline could not be constructed: empty pipeline not allowed.)
[15:35] <pynki> skinux, libapache2-mod-fcgid
[15:36] <pynki> Guest35093, 'gst-launch-1.0 v4l2src device=/dev/video0 ! autovideosink' says it has an empty pipeline?
[15:37] <Guest35093> okh
[15:37] <pynki> Guest35093, but ioria is right: perhaps search the 'dmesg' output for errors after the driver is loaded
[15:39] <Guest35093> pynki again green light of camera switched and one window is opened with the name gst-launch-1.0 but nothing is happeing
[15:40] <pynki>  'gst-launch-1.0 v4l2src device=/dev/video0 ! videoconvert ! autovideosink' Guest35093
[15:40] <pynki> we knwo now that the camera is able to be addressed, but delivering empty frames/black frames. we are running in circles :/
[15:41] <Guest35093> pynki here is the output of dmesg | lsmod https://pastebin.com/FaPUX5LF
[15:41] <Guest35093> ohh pynki you are right
[15:41] <pynki> Guest35093, just run 'dmesg' and paste the output
[15:41] <skinux> pynki: I tried installing that, it's not in the repo.
[15:41] <skinux> I already said that!
[15:43] <pynki> skinux, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/libapache2-mod-fcgid
[15:43] <Guest35093> pynki wait
[15:43] <skinux> Oh FFS! Using the wrong comment
[15:44] <pynki> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/web/libapache2-mod-fcgid
[15:45] <Guest35093> pynki here is the output of dmesg | lsmod https://pastebin.com/kA5RGuW1
[15:45] <skinux> Now there are some sort of errors installing libapache2-mod-fastcgi, but it doesn't say what the error(s) are.
[15:45] <zann> hi
[15:45] <pynki> Guest35093, without the '|lsmod' pelase :P
[15:46] <pynki> hi zann
[15:46] <tuxiano> Hi, I need to copy several thousands files. As input I have a txt file with the origin and another txt file with the destination for each file. Is it possible to hand over those two file to "cp"? Or do I have to write a bash script?
[15:46] <letmutx> i didn't get the 17.04 update. i did apt update && apt dist-upgrade but still got nothing. what should i do? isn't it rolled out yet?
[15:46] <Guest35093> pynki here is the output of dmesg https://pastebin.com/XSTV2NfM
[15:46] <letmutx> i am on 16.10
[15:46] <Guest35093> ohave you got the output of dmesg pynki
[15:47] <pynki> Guest35093, yes, no errors for the cam on a quick search
[15:47] <minimec> Guest35093: I do not have the whole conversation in my logs. It seems that your laptop cam is not working...
[15:47] <pynki> :(
[15:47] <skinux> It's a subprocess post script that is failing apparently.
[15:47] <zann> its going to be internation labour day
[15:47] <zann> give admin break yall
[15:47] <minimec> Guest35093: Can you once do 'uvcdynctrl -d /dev/video0 -c'
[15:47] <zann> hi pynki
[15:47] <Guest35093> so what next pynki
[15:47] <pynki> Guest35093, now i am happy with getting no errors :/
[15:47] <skinux> How do I find out which subprocess script failed and why?
[15:47] <Guest35093> minimec okh
[15:48] <minimec> Guest35093: Then also 'uvcdynctrl -d /dev/video0 -f'
[15:48] <Guest35093> cool pynki
[15:48] <pynki> Guest35093, i am not sure
[15:49] <Guest35093> minimec here is the output  https://pastebin.com/7GSEWsqp
[15:49] <pynki> Guest35093, i ahve a bunch of cams here i work with. i would send them back if i came to this point because i would think they are not working. a camera  that delivers black/empty frames seems broken to me. but others might disagree
[15:50] <pynki> skinux, you install something, it fails and shows no errors???
[15:50] <Guest35093> okh pynki
[15:50] <skinux> It says subprocess post script or something like that
[15:51] <pynki> Guest35093, you have a windows dual boot? to cofirm the cam is working over there? VirtualBox with usb passthrou?
[15:51] <skinux> post installation script returned error exist status 1
[15:51] <minimec> Guest35093: What about 'uvcdynctrl -d /dev/video0 -l' and 'uvcdynctrl -d /dev/video0 -f'?
[15:51] <Guest35093> pynki now cheese showing message that " There was error playing video from this webcam "
[15:52] <Guest35093> pynki i have no dual boot but i have virtualbox with usb pass throu
[15:53] <ioria> Guest35093,  can you paste   lsusb -v | grep webcam   ?
[15:53] <pynki> Guest35093, pass the usb cam t oa virtual widows and see if it works there?
[15:53] <pynki> not sure if that will work in general or not ...
[15:54] <minimec> Guest35093: Try the 'guvcview' software. My webcam also gives me an error launching it with cheese default settings.
[15:54] <skinux> I'm so tired of these freaking problems
[15:55] <Guest35093> minimec here is the output of  uvcdynctrl -d /dev/video0 -l    https://pastebin.com/x5vpv8cA
[15:55] <pynki> minimec, we tried gstreamer v4l2src ! autovideosink and got black frames
[15:55] <Guest35093> pynki give me 5 minutes then
[15:55] <skinux> How do I install and tell it not to run post installation scripts? I know it's possible
[15:57] <Guest35093> minimec here is the second output  https://pastebin.com/PxpmmShW
[15:58] <pynki> ximagesink should be able to handle YUYV 4:2:2
[15:58] <pynki> and otherwise give us an error
[15:58] <Guest35093> minimec https://pastebin.com/A8vKgjBP
[15:59] <Guest35093> minimec are you there
[16:00] <minimec> Guest35093: I am here... ;)
[16:00] <pynki> 'gst-launch-1.0 v4l2src device=/dev/video0 ! "video/x-raw, width=(int)160, height=(int)120, format=(string)YUYV, framerate=(fraction)15/1 videoconvert ! autovideosink' @ Guest35093 , still black window?
[16:01] <Guest35093> have you got minimec
[16:01] <pynki> 'gst-launch-1.0 v4l2src device=/dev/video0 ! "video/x-raw, width=(int)160, height=(int)120, format=(string)YUYV, framerate=(fraction)15/1 ! videoconvert ! autovideosink' @ Guest35093 , still black window?
[16:01] <Guest35093> let me check pynki
[16:01] <pynki> this one, sry one ! missing
[16:01] <pynki> and a " after 15/1. jsut insert it :P
[16:02]  * pynki installs a ubuntu for testing what he writes
[16:02] <minimec> Guest35093: Yeah. I got the outputs. It is strange that you cannot open guvcview. Even if it doesn't recognize the current settings, it should give you the GUI interface. At least I never had problems launching guvcview.
[16:03] <Guest35093> pynki https://pastebin.com/ihbtJuqd
[16:03] <Guest35093> minimec waht should i do next
[16:04] <skinux> pynki: How do I install without allowing post installation scripts?
[16:04] <skinux> pynki: Since it's some post install script that is failing...
[16:04]  * skinux so wishes he could just use Vagrant
[16:05] <rizonz> is there a max pin number for a repo you can use ?
[16:05] <Guest35093> pynki ??
[16:06] <pynki> Guest35093, gst-launch-1.0 v4l2src device=/dev/video0 ! "video/x-raw, width=(int)160, height=(int)120, format=(string)YUYV, framerate=(fraction)15/1" ! videoconvert ! autovideosink
[16:06] <pynki> forgot " !
[16:06] <pynki> skinux, no idea, sry google might help
[16:07] <tgm4883> skinux: what are you trying to do?
[16:07] <minimec> Guest35093: Did you paste your 'lsusb' output already. Even if it is a laptop webcam, it is probably listed as USB device.
[16:08] <skinux> I'm just trying to get fastcgi installed and enabled for apache
[16:08] <pynki> skinux, debian recommends you to fix the script to return a non error value
[16:08] <Guest35093> pynki https://pastebin.com/aRp1TjHp
[16:08] <skinux> It doesn't even tell me what script is failing, nor how it is failing, so I don't know how to fix the script
[16:08] <tgm4883> skinux: I'd try fixing the issue that the post install script is having rather than trying to bypass it
[16:08] <tgm4883> ah
[16:09] <akik> is there a command to fix/update /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg with the current boot config? i was able to boot the machine from grub manually but the config is wrong
[16:09] <pynki> minimec, the uvcdriver get loaded, https://pastebin.com/kA5RGuW1, thats the lsusb https://pastebin.com/P0jDp8hU, dmesg https://pastebin.com/XSTV2NfM line 757
[16:10] <tgm4883> skinux: I think you can put 'set -x' at the top of the script (line 2, under the interpreter line) and it will print everything it's trying to do to stdout
[16:10] <tgm4883> skinux: you'd do that in the postinst file
[16:10] <skinux> Where is the postinst file?
[16:11] <tgm4883> skinux:  /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[16:11] <Guest35093> minimec yes i pasted
[16:11] <pynki> Guest35093, gst-launch-1.0 v4l2src device=/dev/video0 ! "video/x-raw, width=(int)160, height=(int)120, format=(string)YUYV, framerate=(fraction)15/1" !  autovideosink
[16:12] <pynki> should be black. strange format comming out of the camera...
[16:12] <pynki> YUYV...
[16:12] <dethanu> Everytime when i try to install a new background imageon my laptop install of putting the picture in the normal position it keps setting it up sideways.... any tips on how to fix this? using the latest ubuntu release
[16:13] <pynki> Guest35093, gst-launch-1.0 v4l2src device=/dev/video0 ! "video/x-raw-yuv,format=\(fourcc\)YUY2, width=(int)160, height=(int)120, framerate=(fraction)15/1" !  autovideosink                    try this one too
[16:14] <skinux> I change set -e to set -x ?
[16:14] <Guest35093> pynki https://pastebin.com/Q7iQ6ppM
[16:15] <Guest35093> pynki here is the output https://pastebin.com/GwvNdR11
[16:16] <pynki> Guest35093, 'apt-get install v4l-utils && v4l2-ctl --list-formats-ext'
[16:16] <dethanu> so noone can help me with this issue?
[16:17] <pynki> Guest35093, but try to passthou the camera to a windows VirtualkBox machine and see if it works there
[16:17] <Guest35093> pynki installed
[16:17] <pynki> Guest35093, i am at the end of what i would try :(
[16:18] <minimec> Guest35093: pynki: My idea was that we ned some specific firmware for the webcam (5986:0510 Acer, Inc), but I do not find anything for the device on the net.
[16:18] <Guest35093> pynki i need more then 40 or 60 minutes as i need to create new virtual box for win-8
[16:18] <Guest35093> minimec me too
[16:18] <tgm4883> skinux: it's been awhile since I needed to do this. I think add 'set -x' on the line below set -e
[16:19] <Guest35093> pynki you are really awesome and thanks
[16:20] <pynki> Guest35093, https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/
[16:20] <Guest35093> i got it pynki
[16:22] <mguy> Just installed 17.04, where did they hide the 'disable touchpad while typing' setting
[16:23] <skinux> Here's the output of post install script, maybe it'll mean something to you https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657#file-postinst
[16:24] <pynki> Guest35093, i am out, i need to sleep. BEst luck withthe cam. hope you get it to work. confirming on windows that it actually works and gives frames that are not black is the thing i would try now. if that gives you a picture i do not knwo whewre to look for error anymore :/
[16:25] <tgm4883> skinux: run 'a2enmod -m -q fastcgi'
[16:25] <skinux> Says it doesn't exist
[16:25] <tgm4883> skinux: says a2enmod doesn't exist?
[16:25] <skinux> Yup!
[16:25] <skinux> No, says fastcgi doesn't exist
[16:26] <zap0> is there a CPU-Z -like app that can show me lots of details about a machine?
[16:27] <deww> skinux: was tehre something different on how this ubuntu installation was done?
[16:27] <skinux> Nope.
[16:28] <tgm4883> skinux: what version of ubuntu is this?
[16:28] <skinux> 16.04
[16:28] <skinux> 16.04.2
[16:28] <deww> i spun up an instance with vagrant. looks ok here. :/
[16:29] <skinux> I've installed libapache2-mod-fcgid, libapache2-mod-fastcgi is installed, but post install script keeps failing
[16:29] <ioria> skinux, dpkg -l libapache2-mod-fastcgi
[16:30] <skinux> https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657#file-output
[16:31] <ioria> skinux, it's not installed
[16:31] <tgm4883> ioria: that's what we're working on ......
[16:31] <skinux> Well, the system SAYS it is
[16:31] <ioria> tgm4883, ah, ok
[16:31] <ioria> skinux, nope
[16:31] <ioria> skinux, it's broken
[16:32] <tgm4883> ioria: postinst fails, output with -x   https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657#file-postinst
[16:32] <skinux> Just uninstalled it, reinstalled it and got the same post install script problem
[16:33] <ioria> skinux, apt-cache policy  libapache2-mod-fastcgi
[16:34] <skinux> https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657#file-output
[16:34]  * skinux is starting to get really annoyed
[16:35] <mcphail> skinux: have you undone every one of the changes you'd made when you cut and pasted random configuration files from the internet the other day? If you don't know what you did (and how to undo it) I'd suggest your fastest solution would be a nuke and reinstall
[16:35] <tgm4883> skinux: this is a new install right? I'd probably just start over at this point as you've broken something
[16:35] <ioria>  !info  libapache2-mod-fcgid xenial
[16:36] <ioria> skinux, wron version ?
[16:36] <ioria> skinux, you have 2.4.7~0910052141-1.2
[16:36] <tgm4883> ioria: nah, tha's the right version
[16:37] <ioria> 2.4.7~0910052141-1.2 != 1:2.3.9-1
[16:37] <tgm4883> ioria: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libapache2-mod-fastcgi
[16:37] <bonalink> ьтиь
[16:38] <methew> I"m facing a weird issu eon Ubuntu 16.04 fresh install..
[16:38] <ioria> not multiverse, but universe ?
[16:38] <methew> I've isntall elasticsearch and kibana but can't access them over the network.. ufw is disabled
[16:38] <tgm4883> ioria: maybe ubottu doesn't search there?
[16:39] <tgm4883> ioria: I got 2.4.7 on a fresh 16.04 install just now
[16:39] <ioria> tgm4883, i see
[16:39] <tgm4883> ioria: maybe ubottu needs to run updates ;)
[16:39] <mcphail> ioria: you've asked tge bot about a different package
[16:39] <tgm4883> lol
[16:39] <tgm4883> mcphail: good catch
[16:40] <skinux> This isn't a new installation, I've had Ubuntu installed for several months at least.
[16:40] <ioria> mcphail, what's the right one ?
[16:40] <tgm4883> !info  libapache2-mod-fastcgi xenial
[16:40] <skinux> And yes, I removed apache completely and started over.
[16:40] <tgm4883> skinux: did you purge the packages and remove any leftover config files?
[16:40] <skinux> tgm4883: Fine, it's optional. Then why can't I enable fastcgi?
[16:41] <skinux> Yes, I believe so.
[16:41] <ioria> tgm4883, right, i'am blind
[16:41] <tgm4883> skinux: you'd need to 'apt remove --purge apache2 libapache2-mod-fastcgi' and then ensure that /etc/apache2 was deleted when it was done
[16:42] <mcphail> skinux: judging by the mess you were in the other day with this, I don't think it is going to be possible to fix your system quickly over IRC support. You've made changes we don't know about by pasting stuff from a webpage. Please believe me a reinstall will be much quicker
[16:42] <tgm4883> methew: did you configure them to listen on your IP address? Are they running?
[16:43] <methew> tgm4883 yes they are running. i can access them in localhost but not over network. firewall is isabled.. I can verify connectionusing netcat
[16:43] <mcphail> skinux: but I'll butt out now and let you make your own decision
[16:43] <tgm4883> methew: pastebin 'netstat -tulpn'
[16:43] <muzz> is there a way to transfer programs from 1 drive to another if they are using the same os?
[16:43] <skinux> All I've done is edit config files, and I've provided those.
[16:44] <skinux> WOW! I purged and reinstalled those packages...NOW it says fastcgi is ALREADY ENABLED
[16:44] <skinux> And, yet, it's STILL not parsing PHP
[16:45] <tgm4883> skinux: give me a few minuts
[16:45] <methew> tgm4883  https://paste.linux.community/view/8e4a0322
[16:46] <tgm4883> methew: it's only listening on localhost. You need to configure it (just kibana unless you want ES to be accessible from other hosts as well) to listen on your private IP
[16:50] <methew> tgm4883 thanks
[16:51] <skinux> I bet I know why it's not parsing. FastCGI is enabled, but Apache probably didn't get automatically configured to USE it.
[16:51] <muzz> what program is recomended for installing programs onto a disk?
[16:52] <ioria> skinux, you know this right ? https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/apache-with-php-fpm-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[16:52] <skinux> It's the tutorial I had used
[16:53] <renn0xtk9> what does it mean when you have kind of thinks like that when running sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:53] <renn0xtk9>  Policy breaks with upgrade of libkf5pimtextedit5 [ amd64 ] < 16.12.3-0neon+16.04+build5 -> 17.04.0-0neon+16.04+build6 > ( libs )
[16:55] <tgm4883> renn0xtk9: we probably need a little bit more of the surrounding lines for that
[16:56] <skinux> I just put back some config and tried restarting Apache. Here's the gist https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657
[17:11] <ioria> skinux, wild guess,  a2enmod actions
[17:15] <skinux> You don't have permission to access /php7-fcgi/wasob/index.php on this server.
[17:15] <skinux> I might know where that's coming from, not sure.
[17:16] <skinux> https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657
[17:17] <ivan__> hello i was wandering if anyone new how to install usb format on linux lite
[17:17] <ivan__> knew
[17:20] <mdjfhfj> hi...
[17:20] <ducasse> !kali | ivan__ this applies to linux lite as well
[17:21] <mdjfhfj> ne e
[17:21] <mdjfhfj> ihm
[17:22] <UbuntuNoob> Hello, this morning my (very old) laptop running Ubuntu froze up, and I held the power down to shut it off. The drive is encrypted with whatever encryption method is applied from the regular Ubuntu installation window. When booting back up, it will prompt me for my password to decrypt the drive, and afterwards will give me a busybox terminal.
[17:23] <UbuntuNoob> I am unsure what steps to take to fix my installation, and have had difficulty in trying to recover any data from my home directory while booting from a Live USB copy of Ubuntu due to the encryption on it.
[17:24] <blankb> ubuntunoob: do you have a backup?
[17:26] <ioria> UbuntuNoob, already tried fsck ?
[17:26] <UbuntuNoob> I am a fool and do not have a backup. Also, I've seen some answers floating around involving "ecryptfs-recover-private", but it sounds like I'd need the 32-character-long passphrase, something I cannot locate. Am I correct in thinking if the booting issue is resolved, I will be able to access my drive regularly with only my passwords?
[17:27] <UbuntuNoob> I have not yet tried fsck, is there any danger to operations like that before copying off/imaging data? (Sorry, really new and that's probably a stupid question)
[17:28] <ioria> UbuntuNoob, it checks your fs for errors, you could do it from Advanced Options -> Recovery  (if you can access grub)
[17:31] <ioria> UbuntuNoob, but also from that shell, iirc, after an  'exit' command
[17:31] <mdjfhfj> humsn nz.... error '''
[17:34] <UbuntuNoob> ioria, when booting up I get to "GNU GRUB" (and previously would just enter with "Ubuntu"), I see "Advanced options for Ubuntu", and within that many different "Ubuntu, with Linux" followed by version numbers, and a "Recovery Mode" option for each. Is this what you are talking about, and is there a specific version I should select, or just the uppermost?
[17:34] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: boot a live usb, i can help you out a little
[17:35] <ioria> UbuntuNoob, ^ EriC^^
[17:35] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: what happens when you try to boot right now?
[17:35] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^, do you mean with a regular boot to the "Ubuntu" option at GNU GRUB?
[17:38] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: yeah
[17:39] <ioria> EriC^^, afaik  he got an initram busy box shell, after an hard reboot with an encrypted fs
[17:40] <EriC^^> ioria: aha thanks
[17:40] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: try booting the live usb
[17:40] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I get to "Please unlock disk sda5_crypt", then after entering the password I see "cryptsetup: sda5_crypt set up successfully", then a BusyBox terminal.
[17:40] <UbuntuNoob> Okay, will do.
[17:44] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I'm on the desktop of the live boot.
[17:44] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ok, type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" in a terminal and paste the link it gives you here
[17:50] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Sorry, had to set up wifi on the live boot. Here it is: http://termbin.com/axu1
[17:51] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: type "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 sda5_crypt"
[17:53] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Done
[17:54] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" again
[17:55] <Sbur3> When I try to use PulseAudio , it tells me that "access denied".  I can't play with it.  Any ideas as to how to fix that?
[17:56] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/qmfo
[17:57] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: try sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[17:57] <intz> hello
[17:57] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Done
[17:58] <intz> how can i use my ssd as a cache for file transfers?
[17:58] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: is all your stuff there? try "nautilus /mnt/home" and have a look around
[17:58] <intz> my ubuntu has a 3tb hdd, its on network, when i transfer files from a pc on the network, the speeds aren't always 1gbit
[17:58] <intz> i want to use my ssd as a cache to keep them more 1gbit'ish
[17:58] <intz> halp
[18:01] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Unforunately I get "This location could not be displayed. - You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents". I think this is because during installation, I agreed to an encrypted home directory?
[18:02] <ioria> UbuntuNoob, it's encrypted too
[18:02] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: try "sudo nautilus /mnt/home"
[18:03] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: The only contents are "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" and a "README.txt"
[18:03] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ok, the home dir is encrypted
[18:04] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[18:05] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: From the highest level directory?
[18:06] <UbuntuNoob> Just want to make sure I'm running that in the right place
[18:06] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: yes any dir will work
[18:07] <tgdg> hello
[18:08] <tgdg> is anyone here
[18:08] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Done
[18:10] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: sudo chroot /mnt
[18:11] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, done.
[18:12] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ok, type "update-initramfs -u -k all"
[18:16] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, I've entered that, and it's running. One quick question - since I don't have the 32 character long passphrase, I think I'm locked out of my home unless it can stay how it was where I only needed my password. Is anything that we're doing here going to affect whatever file(s) that let my password decrypt the home without the passphrase?
[18:17] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: if you know your user's password you can decrypt it
[18:18] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: you should save the 32char long passphrase though
[18:18] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: try "login <your user>"
[18:19] <SimonNL> * SimonNL has quit (Excess Flood)        what did I do ?
[18:21] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I entered my password after the login command, and I got a "Welcome to Ubuntu..[lots of text]" further down there's two lines "open: Permission denied" followed by "Error locking counter"
[18:21] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: And now it's waiting for input again
[18:22] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: is it still logged in as your user?
[18:23] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I believe so, the prompt is currently " <my user>@ubuntu:~$ ", is that sufficient or is there another way to check?
[18:25] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: yeah that's ok
[18:25] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: try "ls" see if your files are there
[18:25] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: "ls" returns the same "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" and "README.txt"
[18:25] <UbuntuNoob> No other contents
[18:26] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: try "ecryptfs-mount-private"
[18:28] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I get "enter your login passphrase", I assumed that was my normal password and entered it. It responded "Inserted auth tok with sig [bunch of stuff] into the user session keyring" followed by "open: Permission denied" followed by "Error locking counter"
[18:29] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: odd, try typing "exit" so you're back to the root shell in the chroot
[18:30] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: "logout" followed by "open: Permission denied" followed by "Error locking counter", and now I'm at the " root@ubuntu:/# " prompt
[18:31] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ok, try "ecryptfs-recover-private /home/<your user>/.Private"
[18:33] <aDrz> hello,
[18:33] <Jenshae> Hi all. I need to transfer Make and install it from a USB stick.
[18:33] <Jenshae> I need it to compile a NIC driver and not having a driver on that machine, I have not Internet on it.
[18:33] <Jenshae> Makefile:121: *** Compiler not found. Stop.
[18:33] <Jenshae> Any ideas?
[18:34] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Oh thank god, earlier I tried this same command and had gotten something saying it can't find my wrapped passphrase, and to enter the 32-char one, but this worked. After asking if I want to recover this directory and entering my password, I got:
[18:34] <aDrz> i have a small problem I didn't succeeded in making my external microphone to work
[18:34] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: "Inserted auth tok with sig [stuff] into the user session keyring" followed by "INFO: Success! Private data mounted at [tmp/ecryptfs.<random letters>]."
[18:35] <aDrz> the usb webcam microphone works
[18:35] <aDrz> so this is slightly weird,
[18:35] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ok, great, try ls /tmp/ecr... and see if its there
[18:35] <blkadder> Jenshae http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc
[18:36] <aDrz> does anyone has an idea?
[18:37] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Ohhh my goodness it is. This is amazing.
[18:37] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: :D
[18:37] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: do you remember any errors initramfs said earlier when you tried booting?
[18:38] <bonalink> ппп
[18:38] <bonalink> привет
[18:38] <EriC^^> !ru | bonalink
[18:38] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I'm fairly (90%?) certain there were no errors, it just had me sit at that prompt once it passed the drive decryption screen.
[18:39] <Jenshae> Thanks you blkadder. I had already transferred and installed the following: make_4.1-6, libgcc1_6, libc6_2, gcc-6
[18:39] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ok
[18:39] <Jenshae> That is how I got the error message instead of "you need to install make"
[18:40] <Jenshae> aDrz what make and model is your microphone?
[18:40] <blkadder> Jenshae Look at the makefile to determine what compiler it is trying to use then.
[18:40] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ok, maybe we'll try a quick "grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && update-grub" since we're already chrooted
[18:40] <mr_whit3> new to ubuntu
[18:41] <Jenshae> Oh. Gedit the make file that comes with the drivers? Une momento
[18:41] <mr_whit3> any recommendations?
[18:41] <blkadder> Yes, look at line 121 of the Makefile
[18:41] <Jenshae> mr_whit3: PlayOnLinux, Wine and Gimp.
[18:41] <Jenshae> Oh and Chrome if you like Netflix and Youtube
[18:41] <mr_whit3> @jenshae thanks
[18:42] <aDrz> Jenshae, this is a Tonor
[18:42] <Jenshae> Also you can install Steam natively and there are Linux games
[18:42] <aDrz> seems to work on windows
[18:42] <Jenshae> Tonor what model, aDrz? Check the bottom
[18:43] <Jenshae> aDrz have you tried a Win install of Skype via Wine + Wine install your Windows drivers?
[18:44] <aDrz> Jenshae, there's not number or whatever https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00PZMP3Z0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[18:44] <aDrz> i'll try to install skype
[18:44] <Jenshae> Just for testing purposes. Skype is pretty robust. If you can Wine the mic then link it to programs you need ... and go from there?
[18:45] <Jenshae> aDrz with peripherals, like microphones, web cameras, scanners, macro keyboards and printers, always check the compatibility lists first before buying them.
[18:45] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Is there any merit to trying to copy off the files before doing anything else, or getting that 32-char passphrase (I think that's something you can do once you're logged in)? I'm just super excited about actually seeing my stuff, but if you don't think I need to worry about it I'll trust you and run that grub install command
[18:46] <Jenshae> I had to pay an exta £40 to be sure my shotgun mic and webcam would be Linux compatible
[18:46] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Probably a dumb question, but like I said I'm just super excited about getting through that encryption haha.
[18:47] <Jenshae> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-test-microphone-with-audio-linux-sound-architecture-alsa
[18:47] <aDrz> Jenshae,  ok i'll try but wasn't expect a simple microphone not to be compatible
[18:48] <Jenshae> Too many brands for peripherals.
[18:48] <blkadder> Jenshae I think you want to install all of the build-essential packages: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&keywords=build-essential&searchon=names
[18:48] <aDrz> i already try
[18:48] <Zalabas> ay...
[18:49] <adamu_> china
[18:50] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: if you have the space to copy the files off sure go for it, also the 32char passphrase can be decrypted with ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase /home/<your user>/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[18:50] <Jenshae> blkadder it is a large Makefile and I am not sure what I am looking for. I think from the file extensions using .c that they want to be compiled in C or C++?
[18:50] <odroid> hello
[18:53] <Jenshae> blkadder is there a way to grab a tree of files from that package site? Instead of individually and maybe missing something out?
[18:55] <Jenshae> blkadder my tired brain just realised how good that link is.
[18:57] <Jordan_U> Jenshae: What hardware are you trying to build drivers for?
[18:58] <Jenshae> Jordan_U:  https://downloadmirror.intel.com/15817/eng/README.txt Old Intel NIC
[18:59] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I don't often copy from terminal, if I understood what happened correctly my home directory was mounted in the live boot's /tmp correct? When I browse to there using "Files" I don't see the ecrypt directory that was generated...is there a way to show that in the GUI, or should I just use terminal?
[18:59] <tomreyn_newpc> hi there. i'm on a new ubuntu 16.04.2 + ryzen 1800x + radeon rx 580 build. i'm using the hwe kernel, so 4.8.0. there, the radeon driver works (after updating pciids), but with the hwe-edge kernel (linux 4.10.x) it won't. is there a recommendable amdgpu ppa?
[18:59] <tomreyn_newpc> (and it would be nice to have a >= 4.10 cpu due to the cpu)
[18:59] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: And if by terminal, is there anything special about copying the mounted&decrypted files, or can I just look up the regular copy syntax and use that
[19:00] <Jordan_U> Jenshae: Are you absolutely sure that you need to build a driver from source to use this ethernet card? Please pastebin the outptut of "lspci".
[19:00] <blkadder> Jenshae That's what apt is for. ;-)
[19:00] <jancoow> Ugh. Trying to setup tagspaces (looks very cool!) but this can't be used with an external owncloud server <.<
[19:01] <Zalabas> yup
[19:01] <Jenshae> Jordan_U: Pastebin will be a bit painful, hang on, need to copy it down, move it physically then upload it. Trying that essential builds link now.
[19:01] <blkadder> Jenshae If there is a way of packaging everything up that you need w/dependencies offline, I am not aware of it.
[19:02] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: it should be in /mnt/tmp , try "sudo nautilus /mnt/tmp" to copy them
[19:02] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: copying the files is exactly the same as normal copying (also in the terminal)
[19:03] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: the nautilus command has to be run in a fresh terminal (not the chroot)
[19:04] <blkadder> Jenshae Here's a possible solution though: http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/517
[19:04] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Ah, okay. I was just about to message saying the nautilus command was throwing very weird errors
[19:06] <Jordan_U> Jenshae: The linux kernel has no stable internal API. That means that code written for an old kernel will very rarely build properly for a signifigantly newer one. Just be aware, that even after you get all the needed dependancies this may still not build (depending on how recently the code has or hasn't been updated to work with newer kernels).
[19:09] <blkadder> Oh, I didn't see that...
[19:09] <blkadder> Yeah, that's probably not going to work.
[19:10] <blkadder> 2.4 and 2.6?
[19:10] <blkadder> Whee!
[19:10] <blkadder> It does say "and later" though and the doc is as of last year.
[19:14] <blkadder> Jenshae Check out the comments: https://sourceforge.net/projects/e1000/
[19:14] <Jenshae> Getting warmer, remembered pswd to e-mail to log into pastebin :P
[19:15] <Jenshae> Cheers blkadder
[19:16] <anonymous_> hello
[19:16] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, I copied off some important files and also got the 32-char passphrase. I'll run that "grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && update-grub" command from the chroot terminal now.
[19:16] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ok, sounds good
[19:19] <M1K4> Good Evening
[19:21] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: "grub-install: error: attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled. Set `GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=1` in file `/etc/default/grub`.."
[19:22] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ah, type "mount -a"
[19:22] <EriC^^> then give it another go
[19:24] <bonsaitree> Yes, it turned out that it's screen tearing happening on 17.04. Anyone noticed it and possible fixes? Thanks in advance.
[19:25] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Done. Some notable things: "Installation finished. No error reported.", a warning about GRUB_TIMEOUT to a nonzero value, and then a long series of "Found linux image: /boot/<long version number>" for various versions.
[19:26] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: looks good, try rebooting
[19:26] <UbuntuNoob> Eric^^: Without the USB, right? Just regular boot up
[19:26] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: actually before rebooting, try "touch /forcefsck"
[19:26] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: yeah
[19:26] <UbuntuNoob> Okay
[19:29] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I did the touch command, is there any special unmounting or re-encrypting or exiting of this chroot terminal that I should be aware of, or is just "shut down" from the GUI safe?
[19:29] <B105PH3RE> looking for help with some iptables performance issues.. running ubuntu 12.04 and when I use my server for internet sharing its about 50kb/s and when I'm direct to modem its like 2.3mb/s any ideas?
[19:30] <B105PH3RE> no switch and tried different network cables, and there are no other systems on the network
[19:30] <B105PH3RE> server has dual nic cards
[19:31] <B105PH3RE> initial setup was good but now lately its crappy for some reason...
[19:31] <Jenshae> Got distracted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnkHRtpTztc
[19:31] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: nope nothing special
[19:34] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, I booted regularly, got to GRUB and selected "Ubuntu", the BusyBox v1.22.1 terminal came up again
[19:35] <UbuntuNoob> With "initramfs" leading the prompt
[19:37] <Kyoku> i'm trying to turn off all logs on Ubuntu 16.04 server.  I set sudo systemctl disable rsyslog.service and commented out $IncludeConfig /etc/rsyslog.d/*.conf but I'm still getting cloud-init and wtmp logs, does anyone know how to turn these off?
[19:38] <B105PH3RE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24488007/
[19:38] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: does it mention any errors?
[19:38] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: No errors whatsoever
[19:39] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: try "ls /dev/mapper" does it show the root one?
[19:39] <UbuntuNoob> it responds "control        sda5_crypt     ubuntu--vg-swap_1     ubuntu--vg-root"
[19:40] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: (sorry if spam, forgot to tag you)
[19:41] <skinux> Is this config file causing the error? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657
[19:44] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: try typing "exit"
[19:44] <funkster> anyone recommend a intel CPU that the GPU works with ubuntu 16/17? (I was having trouble with the newest intel chips)
[19:46] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root contains a file system with errors, check forced. Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found." followed by "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. (i.e. without -a or -p options)"
[19:47] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: followed by "fsck exited with status code 4 The root filesystem on /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root requires a manual fsck"
[19:48] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: aha, try booting in recovery mode (go to advanced in grub then recovery and choose to run fsck)
[19:49] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Is there a particular version I should select, or just the newest one with (recovery mode)?
[19:50] <davidj> @funkster depending on budget, I found the gtx 1080 works flawlessly now. I hear good things 'bout the 1070.
[19:50] <davidj> If I were a patient man, I'd await amd's next release.
[19:51] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: yup
[19:51] <davidj> Oh! You mean intel specifically. Never ran into any issues with intel gpus and linux.
[19:51] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: newest one
[19:51] <Jenshae> AMD is worth going for. What with Vulkan coming along and the superior memory bus width.
[19:52] <Jenshae> Nvidia does weird things like put two chips on the same channels
[19:52] <Jenshae> Nvida tries to compensate by running the transfer speeds higher but they still fall behind on AMD
[19:52] <Jenshae> So you do graphics design or you play games with many different textures then AMD will come out better in the future.
[19:52] <tomreyn_newpc> funkster, which ubuntu version and intel gpu do you have there?
[19:53] <tomreyn_newpc> (and what's not working)
[19:53] <funkster> tomreyn_newpc: I am going to purchase, I previously had issues witn i3 kabylake. Can you recommend one that is working?
[19:54] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, I did that and it responds with the same message as when I tried "exit" in the BusyBox prompt..Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found, run fsck manually, etc. "Failure: File system check of the root filesystem failed"
[19:54] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: And now I'm at the BusyBox/initramfs terminal
[19:54] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: aha, try dropping to root shell
[19:54] <Kyoku> how can i turn off wtmp logs?
[19:54] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I don't know what that means...sorry haha
[19:55] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: ah try rebooting into recovery mode, then go to the drop to root shell
[19:55] <tomreyn_newpc> funkster, i can only agree to what was previously said, that intel gpu's usually work fine. for the latest one you may need microcode updates and maybe updated drivers (from a ppa) on 16.04 though.
[19:55] <tomreyn_newpc> funkster, 520 is the latest one i used and it worked out of the box.
[19:55] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: then type "fsck -f /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root"
[19:56] <funkster> tomreyn_newpc: should I give ubuntu 17 a try on newest intel chip/gpu?
[19:56] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: I'm confused, when I boot into recovery mode I got here...there wasn't any option to "drop to root shell"
[19:56] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Or any options actually, it just started sliding a bunch of logs up the screen as it worked on things
[19:57] <tomreyn_newpc> funkster, i'd just keep lts (so 16.04) and *maybe* use a ppa  (if really needed)
[19:57] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: oh
[19:57] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: boot the live usb again
[19:57] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: then type "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 sda5_crypt"
[19:57] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: then type "sudo fsck -f /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root"
[20:01] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: ""Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. fix<y>?" I am going to assume we want that fixed and hit "y", haha.
[20:02] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: yeah, spam the y key :D
[20:02] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Now "Deleted inode 11316280 has zero dtime. Fix<y>?"
[20:02] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, to all of these?
[20:02] <EriC^^> yup
[20:03] <tomreyn_newpc> funkster, https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers if you're looking for newer drivers. but before you do this be sure to install intel-microcode and reboot and retest.
[20:04] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Okay, I spammed away and it says FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED with some timestamps and things. Reboot?
[20:04] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: yup
[20:06] <B105PH3RE> quit
[20:07] <Sparrow_> Can I get a link to the ubuntu logs of this channel?
[20:07] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Yes! It worked!
[20:07] <EriC^^> !irclogs | Sparrow_
[20:08] <Sparrow_> thanks
[20:08] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: great!
[20:08] <EriC^^> np
[20:09] <UbuntuNoob> EriC^^: Thank you SO much. You are my favorite human being.
[20:09] <EriC^^> UbuntuNoob: no problem :D
[20:53] <Swift_> Hey folks, I've been having some trouble getting macchanger to work properly. Is it acceptable to ask for help with something like that here, or should I try some other channel?
[21:01] <tomreyn_newpc> Swift_, i don't think that's an issue, it's part of ubuntu
[21:02] <tomreyn_newpc> Swift_, are you using it with Network Manager?
[21:02] <Swift_> I was. I figured that might be causing problems, so I installed wicd instead, which just gave me a different problem
[21:03] <tomreyn_newpc> with Network Manager you can just have NM set the desired MAC foor you
[21:03] <Swift_> Hmm, problem is I want to be able to use a script that randomises the mac address
[21:03] <Swift_> I.e. on startup or something
[21:04] <tomreyn_newpc> i never tired but i bet someone else has
[21:04] <tomreyn_newpc> if you can't find how to do it online, i bet you'llneed to create a script and place it in some *.d directory
[21:05] <tomreyn_newpc> such as a NM post startup hook
[21:09] <tomreyn_newpc> there is a wifi.mac-address-randomization option NetworkManager.conf
[21:12] <tomreyn_newpc> Swift_, see the cloned-mac-address option in nm-settings(5)
[21:16] <tomreyn_newpc> Swift_, this discusses your options in detail: https://blogs.gnome.org/thaller/2016/08/26/mac-address-spoofing-in-networkmanager-1-4-0/
[21:18] <tomreyn_newpc> oh that's just for NM 1.4, but ubuntu 16.04 is on 1.2 :-/
[21:19] <latino31> is apache2 not working with ubuntu 17.04 now?
[21:19] <Ben64> it is
[21:21] <latino31> ben64 its not working for me...https://askubuntu.com/questions/908470/apache2-not-starting-on-ubuntu-server-17-04
[21:35] <west> anyone have any idea where one might restrict access to  phpmyadmin by ip, other than  /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[21:37] <tomreyn_newpc> latino31, two issues: one is quite clearly discussed on the "systemctl status apache2.service" output you pasted. the other is that you cannot have both nginx and apache listenon the same port (80)
[21:38] <skinux> Did I miss an answer? Is this config file causing the error? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/5cf956ac2cb031d51bf597ccc3d7c657
[21:38] <bonsaitree> How do i convert from a binary file located in /bin to a source-code written in whatever language that binary was the product of?
[21:38] <tomreyn_newpc> west, why would you prefer not to do it there?
[21:39] <west> no, it's just that i'm pretty sure i did it in more than one place
[21:39] <tomreyn_newpc> skinux, what is "the error"?
[21:39] <skinux> The error is on the Gist, had you bothered to look at it.
[21:39] <west> now i need to change that IP and i can't figure out where else i have specified it
[21:40] <tomreyn_newpc> bonsaitree, you don't. you do it the other way around: have source code, produce binary.
[21:41] <tomreyn_newpc> west: sudo grep -rF '123.123.123.123' /etc/apache2
[21:41] <tomreyn_newpc> west, replace 123.123.123.123 by the IPv4 address you'r elooking for
[21:41] <bonsaitree> tomreyn_newpc, I know, but i wanted to know if there's a way. I've read about de-compilers, but they won't give the *same* code, but instead code which does the same thing
[21:42] <west> thanks, that did it
[21:42] <tomreyn_newpc> bonsaitree, right, disassemblers can (sometimes) support you in generating source code from binaries.
[21:44] <tomreyn_newpc> bonsaitree, this is what's so great about open source software - you get to know what the source code is. reproducible builds allow you to be sure that a given pre-built software was actually built from a specific piece of source code.
[21:45] <west> should changes to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*.conf take effect merely by restarting apache?
[21:46] <west> or must i a2dis/a2ensite
[21:47] <bonsaitree> tomreyn_newpc, Yup :)
[21:48] <tomreyn_newpc> a2ensite + a2dissite create / remove a symbolic link in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ pointing to the actual file /etc/apache2/sites-available/ (which has to exist).
[21:48] <west> oh right
[21:48] <bonsaitree> It turned out that it's screen tearing what's happening on 17.04. Anyone noticed it and possible fixes? Thanks in advance.
[21:48] <bonsaitree> I am on Xubuntu btw.
[21:48] <tomreyn_newpc> west, ^ i.e. you should never place files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ - just symlinks
[21:48] <west> should apache be able to recognize allow / deny directives for ipv6 ip?
[21:49] <tomreyn_newpc> west, and reloading / restarting apache is needed.
[21:49] <tomreyn_newpc> and yes it should understand ip limits on ipv6 addresses
[21:50] <skinux> tomreyn_newpc: Did you check out the gist?
[21:51] <west> it doesn't seem to be able to allow them
[22:00] <thatlizdude> hi, so i need to put the ISO to my USB drive, can anyone help me with that?
[22:00] <thatlizdude> i am on Mac, and I need to boot Linux on Windows
[22:06] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-macos
[22:06] <flappynerd> is there something possibly like AutoHotKey for linux?
[22:06] <alruin> hello i wont tho have what a goom in  xmms2   how to?
[22:06] <thatlizdude> yeah that's what i'm doing now YankDownUnder thanks
[22:07] <thatlizdude> i just heard that UNetBootin isn't recommended
[22:08] <thatlizdude> i don't see the usb drive in the boot order tho
[22:08] <thatlizdude> i am trying to run SystemRescueCd Linux
[22:08] <thatlizdude> not Ubuntu
[22:09] <alruin> go to bios andt look there witch start first
[22:09] <thatlizdude> Windows Boot Manager is first
[22:10] <thatlizdude> then HDD: WDC something
[22:10] <thatlizdude> there's 3 USB's listed
[22:10] <thatlizdude> USB FDD, USB HDD, and USB CDROM
[22:10] <thatlizdude> so which one is it?
[22:11] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: USB HDD - try that.
[22:11] <thatlizdude> ok
[22:11] <alruin> yes
[22:11] <alruin> andt save it
[22:12] <alruin> i wont tho have what a goom in  xmms2   how to?
[22:12] <thatlizdude> i moved it uprestarted
[22:12] <thatlizdude> aaand
[22:12] <thatlizdude> the screen went blank
[22:12] <thatlizdude> and wtf now it's on Windows again
[22:13] <alruin> open windo andt put pc out off youre hous
[22:13] <thatlizdude> any other suggestions?
[22:14] <thatlizdude> i need to reset the password
[22:14] <alruin> in ubuntu
[22:15] <thatlizdude> in SystemRescueCd
[22:15] <thatlizdude> i'm not booting ubuntu
[22:15] <alruin> sudo passwd
[22:15] <thatlizdude> it's another linux
[22:15] <thatlizdude> and I CAN'T BOOT INTO IT
[22:15] <alruin> google it
[22:15] <thatlizdude> i can't boot into it
[22:15] <thatlizdude> i did
[22:15] <thatlizdude> i can't boot it
[22:15] <alruin> tha tno good
[22:16] <thatlizdude> do i need to format it to FAT?
[22:16] <thatlizdude> or exFAT
[22:16] <alruin> i wont my old what a goom backin my xmms2
[22:17] <tomreyn_newpc> !ot | thatlizdude
[22:17] <thatlizdude> okay imma use ubuntu
[22:18] <thatlizdude> so unetbootin
[22:19] <serteng> hello I need quick help for ubuntu
[22:19] <tomreyn_newpc> hi serteng
[22:19] <tomreyn_newpc> !ask | serteng
[22:19] <serteng> thx
[22:19] <Jenshae> blkadder and Jordan_U Thank you for the help. Going to grab some sleep. o7
[22:20] <serteng> I am working on a project and I need to use my pc usb port as spacebar on the keyboard.
[22:21] <serteng> like it s gonna be single button, when hit that it s going to function as space bar.
[22:22] <tomreyn_newpc> serteng, you want to develop a "USB HID input device". that's hardware, maybe ask in ##hardware.
[22:22] <serteng> thx.
[22:22] <tgm4883> or you could just get a premade one
[22:22] <thatlizdude> well UNetBootin is stuck at 43 files of 452
[22:22] <thatlizdude> what can i do?
[22:22] <tgm4883> http://www.usbbutton.com/
[22:23] <jeremy31> serteng: possibly contact the manufacturer?
[22:24] <serteng> I guess I will. I thought it s a simple usb output.
[22:24] <thatlizdude> unetbootin is also not respoding...
[22:24] <serteng> I ll ask to hardware section . thx
[22:25] <thatlizdude> is there another way than unetbootin?
[22:25] <thatlizdude> because it's STUCK
[22:25] <Ben64> how long has it been stuck
[22:25] <thatlizdude> 2mins
[22:26] <Ben64> give it more time
[22:26] <tomreyn_newpc> thatlizdude, what are you trying to do, what is the environment you are operating in (hardware, software, virtualization, media devices), what is your ubuntu support issue?
[22:27] <thatlizdude> tomreyn_newpc: unetbootin ubuntu 16.04.2 on macOS 10.12.4
[22:27] <thatlizdude> stuck at 43
[22:27] <thatlizdude> extracting the files
[22:28] <thatlizdude> this isn't gonna get unstuck
[22:28] <thatlizdude> im cancelling it
[22:29] <thatlizdude> well i tried again and it worked
[22:29] <ryan___> JOIN /#ansible
[22:29] <thatlizdude> now stuck on 185
[22:29] <thatlizdude> holy sh!t are you kidding me
[22:30] <thatlizdude> never using unetbootin again
[22:31] <tomreyn_newpc> thatlizdude, "unetbootin" is not a verb i am aware of. are you trying to create some form of bootable media using the "unetbootin" software? what type of media? is Apple OS X the host OS, hosting a virtual machine which runs ubuntu 16.04? and you ar erunning the unetbootin software in this VM?
[22:32] <thatlizdude> tomreyn_newpc: "UNetBootin" is on Ubuntu's website
[22:32] <thatlizdude> i don't know if you ever made a bootable USB
[22:32] <thatlizdude> but that's what it tells me to use
[22:33] <tomreyn_newpc> i did. and am aware of the software. i'm just asking these questions to better nuderstand what you are trying to do / achieve and how, and how it's not working as expected.
[22:33] <tomreyn_newpc> thatlizdude, ^
[22:34] <thatlizdude> i just switched to the terminal method
[22:34] <thatlizdude> here if you wanna see tomreyn_newpc : https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Mac_OS_x
[22:36] <YankDownUnder> Rather strange that unetbootin can be used by many folks (me included) - and we have no issues with it...
[22:37] <thatlizdude> on Mac?
[22:37] <thatlizdude> because by looking at the interface, it seems REALLY outdated
[22:37] <YankDownUnder> Yes. Many times. Multiplied.
[22:38] <thatlizdude> well it just didn't do it
[22:38] <dax> It works for many people. It doesn't work for many people.
[22:38] <thatlizdude> the terminal method works fine
[22:38] <thatlizdude> i really think it would be much easier for Ubuntu to put that method on their site
[22:38] <YankDownUnder> If it works, then great. Lovely. Donuts for everyone!
[22:38] <thatlizdude> just a thought
[22:39] <thatlizdude> now how can i reset Windows 8 password from Ubuntu? :D
[22:39] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: Communicate that back to the community. That's what a community is about, right? If you have a "trick" or a "tip" or a "hint" that appears to work, donate that information to the community.
[22:39] <thatlizdude> didn't i just do that?
[22:39] <thatlizdude> :P
[22:40] <tomreyn_newpc> not really, things typed to this channel dont end up on support documents automatically
[22:40] <Ben64> thatlizdude: probably by googling "how to reset windows 8 password from linux"
[22:40] <thatlizdude> aight
[22:40] <thatlizdude> thanks guys
[22:42] <thatlizdude> i mean i hope it loads since i clicked "try Ubuntu" but the screen went black...
[22:42] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: The utility that comes on Ubuntu LiveUSB/CD/DVD is called "chntpw"
[22:42] <thatlizdude> that's what i googled :P
[22:43] <tomreyn_newpc> run a media test
[22:43] <thatlizdude> how?
[22:43] <tomreyn_newpc> its an option on the boot screen
[22:44] <thatlizdude> "Check disc for defects"?
[22:45] <thatlizdude> is that what u meant tomreyn_newpc
[22:46] <tomreyn_newpc> right
[22:46] <tomreyn_newpc> thatlizdude, ^
[22:46] <thatlizdude> ok
[22:46] <thatlizdude> does that basically check the ISO file?
[22:47] <thatlizdude> no errors found
[22:48] <thatlizdude> ok how does it suddenly WORK now?
[22:48] <thatlizdude> wait, it doesn't
[22:48] <thatlizdude> OH IT DOES :D
[23:21] <thatlizdude> using Ubuntu seemed like a good idea to reset password - Windows now seems corrupted
[23:22] <thatlizdude> i wouldn't give a sh*t if it wouldn't be my computer, but i really need to fix it right now
[23:22] <thatlizdude> i mean if it WOULD be my computer
[23:22] <thatlizdude> lol
[23:28] <ricky____`> hello, all. i'm using ubuntu MATE 16.04, and caja has stopped opening files when i double-click or right-click->open with... any pointers?
[23:34] <Kuche> so im on 16.04 and my f3 button broke which i used to increase screen brightness, how can i now do it from the command line?
[23:35] <ricky____`> Kuche: did you try xbacklight?
[23:35] <catbeard> so i'm using synapse (apt-get install synapse) on ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[23:35] <catbeard> how do i get this to bind to a custom key like WinKey+R
[23:36] <Kuche> i have tried nothing so far, ricky____`, but my f3 button was continually having problems and now it just broke. a year ago, someone had given me a nice command which i used to increase brightness without installing anything, i forgot what it was
[23:36] <catbeard> and start on boot with (synapse -s)
[23:36] <Kuche> ricky____`: i dont have xbacklight installed
[23:36] <ricky____`> Kuche: i didn't have it installed either. :)
[23:36] <ricky____`> but it does work. just tried it.
[23:36] <trixietrax> Hello, i'm new to linux.
[23:37] <ricky____`> Kuche: `sudo apt install xbacklight`, then `xbacklight -set 50`
[23:37] <ricky____`> and just replace 50 with a number (i'm guessing) between 0 and 100
[23:37] <thatlizdude> does it matter if i did umount /mnt/windows before booting into Windows again?
[23:37] <catbeard> could i just put (screen -dmS synapse_daemon synapse -s) in /etc/rc.sysinit or something
[23:38] <catbeard> or is there a systemd equivalent
[23:39] <ricky____`> catbeard: sorry, i quit custom keyboard layouts (besides caps->ctrl)
[23:39] <joeyy> any one using zfs yet ?
[23:40] <ricky____`> thatlizdude: if you mean a true reboot (not running Windows in a VM in Linux), that should not be a problem.
[23:40] <thatlizdude> ok
[23:41] <thatlizdude> well i used chntpw and now it's scanning and repairing C drive :(
[23:41] <thatlizdude> hopefully it works
[23:41] <thatlizdude> since i am doing this for someone xD
[23:42] <zukizukito> please help me fix plymouth
[23:42] <Kuche> go fix it yourself, you fucking child molester
[23:42] <zukizukito> tried all what i could find in forums , no luck
[23:43] <YankDownUnder> What *is* the problem with Plymouth?
[23:43] <zukizukito> broken
[23:44] <zukizukito> black screen with all the things thats loading up being written
[23:44] <YankDownUnder> zukizukito: So it's a "non graphical" boot screen.
[23:44] <zukizukito> yea
[23:45] <YankDownUnder> zukizukito: What happened between the time that it worked properly and now? What was changed/reconfigured/added?
[23:45] <thatlizdude> the Windows isn't booting i don't know what to do :'(
[23:45] <zukizukito> i have dual boot , kali and ubuntu
[23:45] <zukizukito> i did an apt-get upgrade in kali
[23:46] <YankDownUnder> zukizukito: So the "upgrade" in kali appears to have broken the "Plymouth" for when you boot Ubuntu...is this correct?
[23:47] <zukizukito> maybe
[23:47] <ricky____`> any takers for caja not opening files? it was working and suddenly stopped. using xdg-open for everything is getting tiring. :(
[23:48] <ricky____`> right-click->open in terminal also doesn't work.
[23:48] <YankDownUnder> zukizukito: For Ubuntu, if you wish to make a change to "Plymouth", it would be best to open a terminal and type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure plymouth ==> follow the prompts
[23:48] <ricky____`> and since running caja from the command line doesn't let you see the output (as well as the man page says nothing about it), i'm sort of stuck.
[23:49] <thatlizdude> guys help me i can't boot into Windows after modifying it with Ubuntu chntpw
[23:49] <thatlizdude> please
[23:49] <thatlizdude> i was supposed to remove the password from it, not break it
[23:49] <tomreyn_newpc> as you may have noticed, this is an _ubuntu_ support channel
[23:49] <thatlizdude> that's great
[23:49] <zukizukito> its says plymouth is broken
[23:50] <YankDownUnder> zukizukito: sudo apt-get reinstall plymouth
[23:50] <blackflow> zukizukito: the two operating systems are sharing the same /boot ?
[23:50] <thatlizdude> well the PC is dead
[23:50] <thatlizdude> i'm done with this
[23:51] <ricky____`> tomreyn_newpc: can you offer me some support then? :)
[23:51] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: Did you actually READ the documentation for chntpw, or did you just "run directly into the situation"?
[23:51] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, i don't even know what caja is. probably some graphical file manager?
[23:51] <thatlizdude> YankDownUnder: i ran into it...
[23:51] <ricky____`> right. a rebadged nautilus.
[23:51] <zukizukito> for kali , i did the guided installation ,
[23:51] <thatlizdude> but what can i do?
[23:52] <thatlizdude> do i have to reinstall windows?
[23:52] <thatlizdude> i'm done :;(
[23:52] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, what happened / changed between when it worked and when it broke?
[23:52] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: You cannot try to deflect the blame for your actions on anyone else - Ubuntu or otherwise. People try to help. It's up to YOU to do so with regard, intelligence, patience and THOUGHT.
[23:53] <arooni> i'm seeing duplicate menubars
[23:53] <ricky____`> tomreyn_newpc: pretty much just using the computer. it's not like i rebooted and it was broken. just stopped working.
[23:53] <thatlizdude> YankDownUnder: i'm not blaming anyone else
[23:53] <thatlizdude> i just don't know what to do
[23:53] <ricky____`> using tmux/vim/gimp/chrome/caja, roughly.
[23:53] <arooni> in ubuntu 16.04; i.e. in terminal i see the close/minimize/maximize and then again on system emnubar;  how do i see only one
[23:53] <ricky____`> i can still browse the files, but they no longer open.
[23:53] <YankDownUnder> thatlizdude: GOOGLE. THINK. Write a bloody list of what you did, and what you THINK you should do. Get organised. Be patient.
[23:54] <thatlizdude> aight
[23:54] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, so one possibility might be that an upgrade was installed which broke this functionality. but this should only happen if you were using caja or its dependencies form a PPA.
[23:55] <blackflow> zukizukito: the two operating systems are sharing the same /boot ?
[23:55] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, is that so?
[23:55] <ricky____`> tomreyn_newpc: i have auto-update off. i do it manually.
[23:55] <ricky____`> and i haven't updated in the last ~week, so doubtful.
[23:57] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, okay, then another hypothesis is that there is a stuck broken caja or xdg-open process which breaks this. run "ps auxw | grep -E '(caja|xdg-open)'" - does it list anything, and anything you would not expect (if you can tell, if you cannot tell just put the output on a pastebin)
[23:58] <dw1> I dont have a 'Remote Desktop' option in System > Prefereces in 17.04 - how do I enable it?
[23:59] <ricky____`> tomreyn_newpc: good idea, just a moment. i'll take them all down to be sure.
[23:59] <devz0r> OK so I have this USB dongle thing. It works perfectly in Ubuntu 16.10. In 16.04 and 17.04, it stops working after like 10-20 minutes. It's a Linksys AE1000 v1 802.11n [Ralink RT3572]
[23:59] <tomreyn_newpc> ricky____`, or you could reboot, might also solve it