[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[16:19] <dreamwarrior> hi guys..i have a problem or an issue after installing kubuntu  17.04 in two different HD,...can i write the problem and anyone can answer ?
[16:59] <mparillo> !ask
[17:34] <redphantom> Hi follks. can anything be done to mitigate high I/O usage from effecting the smoothness of Ubuntu? My system is freezing up every few seconds when large files are being moved, every single time. Kubuntu 17.04
[17:38] <lordievader> redphantom: What IO schedular are you using?
[17:40] <redphantom> lordievader: i have to admit i'm a linux newb. how would I find this information out?
[17:42] <redphantom> I am using cfq
[17:43] <redphantom> I know how to google though >:) so i should change my I/O scheduler to something else? Which would you recommend?
[17:44] <momken> hello
[17:44] <momken> Any maintainer of kubuntu-backport ppa here?
[17:45] <momken> I found a very very important bug in Qt5 for Persian/Arabic users which are fixed in Qt 5.6.3 and Qt 5.8.1
[17:45] <momken> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-42074
[17:45] <momken> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-58364
[17:47] <momken> It seems that releasing the next Kubuntu backports PPA with Qt 5.6.3 or Qt 5.8.1 is very essential for fixing these critical bugs in Qt text engine for Persian/Arabic languages
[17:50] <momken> The Qt 5.7.1 shipped wih Ubuntu 17.04 won't fix this issue! We need newer versions of Qt!
[17:54] <mparillo> momken: Thank you very much. I believe that since Qt is shared by many *buntu components (including the recently deprecated Unity 8), that the Kubuntu team no longer can control Qt upgrades. I suggest you ask in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-ir. I would not be surprised if they ask you to file a launchpad.net tracking item linking to your upstream bugs.
[17:57] <momken> mparillo: I know that Ubuntu 16.04 stable won't upgrade its Qt versions easily, due to stability and integrity issues. But there is an independent kubuntu-backports ppa too
[17:57] <momken> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[17:58] <momken> However I guess they will only backport Qt versions of 17.04 back for 16.04 users which is not enough
[18:00] <mparillo> I think there are two different 'theys'. For 16.04 LTS, the Kubuntu team would like to keep Plasma 5.8 up-to-date, since it is an LTS itself, but not necessarily upgrade to 5.9. I think that his implcations for all dependencies (Qt and frameworks, especially)/
[18:00] <redphantom> well i changed my i/o scheduler to noop, i was unable to switch to anticipatory.  hopefully this works. thanks for the help lordievader
[18:05] <momken> mparillo: By 'they' I meant maintainers of kubuntu-ppa backports
[18:05] <momken> https://launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+index?batch=75&memo=1050&start=1050
[18:22] <lordievader> redphantom: No, cfq should be the best in this case.
[18:23] <lordievader> redphantom: It ensures that each contender gets a fair slice.
[18:23] <lordievader> Though you could experiment with the deadline scheduler, of course.
 kernel team switched to CFQ from deadine by default for 17.04 for all flavours. except kubunty as we alreday set CFQ in our kubuntu configs
 git commit with an expanlanation of CFQ over the old default deadline http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-zesty.git/commit/?id=af80b83a2b6184fea27f050948146fcd9a28070d
[20:27] <markslaw> My dvd dtive is going nuts! It won't open when I push the open button, K3B doesn't seem to recognize it and every 30 seconds or so it keeps flashing ald looking for something. What's going on?
[20:28] <markslaw> My dvd dtive is going nuts! It won't open when I push the open button, K3B doesn't seem to recognize it and every 30 seconds or so it keeps flashing ald looking for something. What's going on?
[20:43] <aboulafia_> hi, impossible to install Kubuntu lts 16 on external hdd
[21:06] <aboulafia_> no idea ?
[21:10] <kojak> hello I have a problem and need some advise please
[21:11] <aboulafia_> kojak: if i can help ?
[21:11] <kojak> I upgraded my system and installed which installed a new kernel. While cleaning my old kernel I remove the generic modules
[21:11] <kojak> aboulafia_: yes please
[21:12] <kojak> now I lost all my kernel modules and I can't connect any network device may it be my wifi on board
[21:12] <kojak> or any usb/ethernet adapter
[21:13] <kojak> I have an encrypted drive on it and a lot of code I can't afford loosing
[21:13] <aboulafia_> kojak: normally you can reboot with the old kernel and fix it
[21:14] <kojak> No I can't I removed it
[21:14] <kojak> I have a recovery option for the current kernel but when I connect the network it simply fail
[21:15] <kojak> when I resume start it launches kde correctly but network manager is showing a red tv and can't connect
[21:15] <aboulafia_> kojak: i do not understand. Did you removed the old kernel ?
[21:15] <kojak> yes
[21:16] <aboulafia_> kojak: big mistake...Try to compile a new kernel with the module you need & debian mode and intall it.
[21:17] <kojak> it was an a completion to the purge command
[21:17] <kojak> aboulafia_: how do I do that
[21:18] <kojak> aboulafia_: when I boot and go to the grub menu I only go to advanced system boot
[21:18] <kojak> then I choose recovery
[21:19] <kojak> the only option are linux 4.8.0.54 and its recovery mode
[21:19] <kojak> first fails second works
[21:20] <aboulafia_> kojak: but if you had upgraded your kernel by an update you should have the option for the previous kernel on grub
[21:20] <kojak> I don't see it where it should be ?
[21:20] <aboulafia_> on the boot menu of grub
[21:21] <kojak> the only things I have on the grub menu are ubuntu advanced boot option and system settings
[21:21] <kojak> last reboots to the bios
[21:21] <kojak> first doesn't work and get stuck at early boot stages and second works as told you
[21:22] <aboulafia_> sorry, you but my knowledge on Kubuntu is not enough to fix it
[21:23] <kojak> aboulafia_: /lib only shows modules for 4.8.0.54 which seems to be the only present kernel
[21:24] <kojak> Is there any way to book on a usb drive try to copy the modules on my hard drive and modprob it at reboot ?
[21:26] <kojak> maybe I can try upgrading to kubuntu 17.04 via usb key ?
[21:28] <kojak> aboulafia_: any thoughts on it ?
[21:28] <aboulafia_> kojak: it can be a solution,
[21:28] <kojak> I don't know if there is a proper way to do it ?
[21:30] <aboulafia_> kojak: in the other hand, you can probably download the module you need and firmware by .deb. I do that on Debian but as I say my knoledge on K/ubuntu are limited
[21:31] <aboulafia_> kojak: in your case, begin to backup all your datas before lost it
[21:31] <kojak> aboulafia_: looks like you can do a usb upgrade https://askubuntu.com/questions/396727/upgrade-ubuntu-option-not-availiable-when-installing-from-usb-stick
[21:32] <kojak> aboulafia_: how can I find which deb i need to make my wifi work ?
[21:33] <aboulafia_> kojak: if you do not have a second computer...but if you are here you have Internet
[21:33] <kojak> I do
[21:33] <kojak> I am on windows :x
[21:34] <aboulafia_> as i said, on debain it is easy : you download the package you need on the main website
[21:34] <aboulafia_> on ubuntu, i don't know
[21:34] <kojak> aboulafia_: yes it is the same I think but how do I know which package to download
[21:35] <aboulafia_> i'm here because the installation program of Kubunt 16.04 has a bug and I can't install it
[21:35] <aboulafia_> but it is a complete blackout here
[21:35] <kojak> seems so
[21:36] <aboulafia_> for the network, you need the firmware for your network chipset
[21:36] <aboulafia_> but before that, check on a terminal what you have now
[21:37] <aboulafia_> if with ifconfig you do not see any card, download the frimawere
[21:37] <kojak> I have a realtek r8152
[21:37] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> honestly OBS + DS3 would definitely
[21:37] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> saturate your cpu
[21:37] <kojak> and I don't see it
[21:37] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> UPS forgive me, wrong chat
[21:37] <kojak> ifconfig only shows localhost
[21:38] <aboulafia_> not good. your module is not activated or missing
[21:38] <aboulafia_> sorry, i have to leave now.
[21:39] <kojak> aboulafia_: ok thank you very much
[21:39] <kojak> good luck to
[21:39] <aboulafia_> I need to install a new distributon on a computer
[21:39] <aboulafia_> probably somebody can help you here when they wake up
[21:39] <aboulafia_> good luck
[23:03] <user|89183> anyone having issues with getting new widgets from the gui? the store never loads, usually says network error.
[23:04] <user|89183> 17.04 kubuntu