[00:36] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[02:11] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: ^^ do not know that even 17.04 will support that card . suggest ya fire up a live environment of 17.04 and test to see .
[03:10] <Bashing-om> 16.04 new kernel hit the street : Setting up linux-image-generic (4.4.0.77.83)  .
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[04:05] <ubot5`> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.77.83 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> tnx for headsup Bashing-om
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> !usn | Bashing-om kernel release?
[04:15] <ubot5`> Bashing-om kernel release?: Please see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn for information about recent Ubuntu security updates.
[04:18] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: :) usn :)
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^ ducasse
[05:49] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[05:49] <EriC^^> how are you?
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> great here, working day
[05:52] <EriC^^> cool
[05:58] <EriC^^> morning Bashing-om o/ how was your day?
[06:00] <Bashing-om> Had it ups and downs . That nice Buick --- well water pump is leaking on it . - stick on a forim package management issue . But, otherwise - all GooD .
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys have a nice one
[06:12] <ducasse> good morning
[07:09] <jink> Hi ducasse.
[07:16] <ducasse> \o
[07:18] <EriC^^> hey ducasse
[07:23] <ducasse> morning EriC^^, what's up?
[07:25] <EriC^^> not much, trying to figure out a way so that if someone starts virtualbox with a raw disk image of the hdd, he won't start the currently running os in grub by mistake
[07:25] <EriC^^> haven't figured it out yet, did come across some nice grub commands though, didn't know it could play tunes :D
[07:25] <EriC^^> what about you?
[07:26] <EriC^^> i'm asking in #grub now whether grub can tell if it's loaded from virtualbox
[07:28] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Grub has to get something back from somewhere, else how could it start the kernel ?
[07:28] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: what do you mean?
[07:28] <EriC^^> you mean control execution?
[07:29] <ducasse> hmm, dunno if it can do that, tbh. let me know what you find out.
[07:29] <EriC^^> but how to tell if it's running from virtualbox or not? i tried some grub commands like maybe list the environment etc, nothing useful showing up
[07:30] <EriC^^> another idea would be if i could point virtualbox to the windows efi file instead, since it seems to be using the efibootmgr to load my ubuntu grub efi even though the default path's have windows efi
[07:30] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: hey more advanced than I am ! ..but grub's job is to find the kernel and get it going - once PID1 is started it's job is done .
[07:30] <EriC^^> so virtualbox must be using the actual uefi list on my pc, even though i just gave it a rawdisk image file! pretty odd
[07:31] <EriC^^> it's pretty mind boggling, how did virtualbox decide to use my pc's uefi list, is that like it's default behavior or what?
[07:31] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: As I was talking to ducasse - what happens in kernel space is more than I know .
[07:32] <EriC^^> no worries Bashing-om
[07:33] <EriC^^> aha i found a nice option i think, in the virtualbox manual, it says the rawdisk image can be just for stuff a person has access to
[07:34] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: OH I ceased worrying a long time ago . but inquiring minds want to know ! I just have no present use case for UEFI :)
[07:34] <EriC^^> so i can probably just specify access to the windows partition, that way if somebody loads ubuntu he cant ca... ah but it needs to access /boot for grub though, wont work
[07:35] <ducasse> it's on the root fs?
[07:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:36] <EriC^^> it's really not much for me, i want to make a sort of guide for it and want it to be foul-proof so nobody messes up his pc by mistake using it
[07:36] <EriC^^> i plan to make a script or maybe .desktop file that someone can use to launch windows
[07:36] <EriC^^> (it'll check for mounted windows partitions first and unmount them too then start virtualbox)
[07:36] <ducasse> in kvm i think there are options for messing with the 'efi firmware' in the vm. if vbox is similar you could just set it to always boot the windows bootmgr.
[07:37] <EriC^^> ducasse: yeah that's what i was thinking, i'll look for any virtualbox uefi stuff and see what i can find
[07:38] <EriC^^> this seems like it's useful for it? https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#changedmi
[07:39] <EriC^^> actually no there's nothing about efi files there, hmm
[07:53] <Bashing-om> Annnddd .. uall have fun without me .  nn \o
[08:14] <EriC^^> ducasse: odd, i'm trying grub-mkrescue but it's giving no output file
[08:14] <EriC^^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24497449/
[08:14] <EriC^^> any idea about it?
[08:26] <ducasse> sorry, nothing immediate. there was nothing on vbox and uefi in the manual?
[08:34] <EriC^^> nope just that one topic about dmi stuff
[08:39] <EriC^^> i did find a really cool bios sort of menu when i typed exit in grub
[08:39] <ducasse> anything interesting in it?
[08:40] <EriC^^> i couldnt get it back though, i keep getting the uefi shell every time, i think it's cause i removed the /boot/efi/efi/boot/* files i think it actually uses that to boot and not the uefi list, but it seems broken now keeps doing that
[08:40] <EriC^^> i couldnt really check it much, i'll try to reboot and see if it loads grub again
[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:06] <Esor> hi
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hi Esor
[14:07] <EriC^^> hey BluesKaj
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hi EriC^^
[16:46] <ducasse> EriC^^: the problem with using xmodmap now is that 1) it is not guaranteed to produce consistent results, and 2) any later call to xkb will reset the changes you made. unfortunately xkbcomp and friends are quite nasty to deal with :-/
[16:47] <EriC^^> ah, that sucks
[16:47] <ducasse> just as an fyi :)
[16:47] <EriC^^> ;)
[17:29] <immu> ducasse, EriC^^ hi
[17:29] <EriC^^> hi immu
[17:29] <EriC^^> how's it going pal?
[17:29] <immu> i am fine, how about you all? is blue in? or sleeping
[17:29] <immu> are you also of his age?
[17:30] <EriC^^> i'm good, thanks, blueskaj just left right before you joined xD, i am 31
[18:02] <immu> ok younger than me :)
[18:02] <immu> our blue is uncle grandpa :)
[18:02] <immu> what about ducasse ??
[18:40] <immu> BluesKaj, hi
[19:14] <brunch875> heyo immu, BluesKaj
[19:14] <immu> hello brunch875 BluesKaj
[19:52] <immu> good nite