[00:00] <kubunted> weird, never had such problems with other distros and windows7 , but this win10 is weird and kubuntu seems too
[00:00] <kostkon> craysiii, doubt it
[00:00] <craysiii> well now is the moment of truth
[00:00] <CryptoSiD> Hi guys i made an error and copied a file into /dev/null and i keep receiving a mail with this: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 428: /lib/lsb/init-functions: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[00:01] <CryptoSiD> how can i fix this?
[00:02] <craysiii> yay im in the DE :D
[00:03] <kostkon> craysiii, mission accomplished
[00:03] <CryptoSiD> rm -f /dev/null; mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3 , i think that'll do the trick, that one didn't work udevadm trigger --sysname-match=null
[00:03] <Bashing-om> !yay | craysiii
[00:04] <craysiii> now lets see if my 2nd monitor freaks it out
[00:04] <cdrkeen> hello was wondering if anyone could help me. I'm setting up vsftpd and i have it working so far, but I want to be able to have my friend to access the same folders that i am able to with read and write permissions. How do i go about this? do i chmod the folder 777?
[00:04] <wiggmpk> How do I get back the use of typing a tilde in the terminal? I upgraded from 16.04.2 --> 17.04 and I can't type a tilde, it's really annoying
[00:04] <YankDownUnder> kubunted: When I'm confronted with ANY Windows 10 issues - here - in "plying my trade" and making money, the FIRST thing I do is to turn off - OFF - the "fastboot" "fast shutdown" and anything at all to do with hibernation. Why? Because the disk cannot be checked or fixed otherwise. Very "lovely" that MS has done this...all in the hopes that it will "make it appear that Windows boots faster"...hmmm...
[00:05] <Bruda> cdrkeen: if you guys are in the same group (like 'users') you can set group permissions that allow group members read n write.
[00:06] <kubunted> YankDownUnder: that's exactly what the instructions say , except that the "shutdown" is the fast boot and "restart" is the recommended prior to install...but neither works
[00:08] <kubunted> ok, i guess will have to deal with it later...gotta run..thanx for help
[00:08] <cdrkeen> Bruda: so if i create a group called "vip" then do chown vip:vip /home/public it should work?
[00:08] <YankDownUnder> kubunted: Well I'm thankful I don't follow "those" instructions when I do Ubuntu installs here or onsite...I prefer K.I.S.S. and go with what works. No deviation.
[00:09] <Bruda> cdrkeen: more like username:vip not vip:vip. because there's no user named vip. But yea basically.
[00:09] <cdrkeen> ty sir
[00:09] <tomreyn> cdrkeen: you'll also ensure they use proper umasks
[00:10] <tomreyn> *also want to
[00:14] <xiusfist> I have had ubuntu for about a week and it seems that most soultions involve using the terminal. When receiving help from people on the internet, how can I make sure that that "help" isnt malicious and will destroy my computer or something?
[00:15] <YankDownUnder> xiusfist: Trust. You're inherently in an Ubuntu officially sanctioned support channel.
[00:15] <Bruda> xiusfist: typically the software available by default on a system isn't malicious. But if someone recognizes malicious intent in a chat they will typically speak up.
[00:16] <Bashing-om> xiusfist: There is always that 10%, we watch !
[00:17] <xiusfist> xiusfist: you are watching me 10% of the time?
[00:17] <wudo_honour> how to use execve to call shell'  I mean I don't know much about the argument of execve.
[00:17] <YankDownUnder> xiusfist: We're looking through your webcam at you right now.
[00:17] <xiusfist> fucking great
[00:17] <YankDownUnder> xiusfist: :)
[00:18] <cdrkeen> sweet it works ty all
[00:18] <Bruda> xiusfist: wow put some clothes on you freak :P
[00:18] <YankDownUnder> xiusfist: OMG what's the hamster for?
[00:18] <YankDownUnder> :)
[00:18] <Bruda> lol
[00:18] <cdrkeen> some body has been watching too much Rick and Morty :)
[00:19] <bazhang> !ot | bruda YankDownUnder
[00:19] <unixpro1970> More like Will and Grace!
[00:19] <bazhang> lets cut the chatter please
[00:19] <xiusfist> no but for real what commands should I look out for if I see them in the wild?
[00:20] <YankDownUnder> xiusfist: Outside of proper support channels...be wary and suspicious...strewth, that...and never give out ID credentials.
[00:22] <blackflow> xiusfist: for every new command someone gives you, read the manpage of it.
[00:22] <blackflow> never blindly copy paste commands into the terminal
[00:24] <sirru5h> Hello everyone
[00:24] <Bashing-om> xiusfist: ^ +10 . Learn the manual . in terminal ' man man ' . (' q' to quit )
[00:32] <xiusfist> how do I invert 2 finger scrolling? I looked in the mouse settings but the option was not there.
[00:33] <kantlivelong> is there any backport for 14.04 that support lvm2 cache?
[00:33] <YankDownUnder> xiusfist: That might be something to muck around with in your actual ~/.Xmodmap configuration...I had to do it to initially get "natural scrolling" with my mouse (like a Mac)
[00:34] <blackflow> I think I saw it in that tweak tool thingy... whatsitcalled....
[00:34] <blackflow> the tool with which you tweak various unity and gnome params...
[00:35] <YankDownUnder> "mousetweaks"?
[00:35] <kantlivelong> think i found one
[00:35] <kantlivelong> https://launchpad.net/~sbv/+archive/ubuntu/lvm-backports
[00:35] <YankDownUnder> Or "gnome-tweak-tool"?
[00:37] <blackflow> I think it was the gnome-tweak-tool
[00:38] <blackflow> basically lets you select what is scrolled - content or view of it
[00:43] <swampfox> im running 16.04 lts and had to reinstall. i had something on the top bar where i could click on it and open different apps. can someone remind me of the name?
[00:43] <blackflow> kantlivelong: random PPA with package apparently never updated in two years...  yeah, no.
[00:43] <kantlivelong> blackflow: i mean its for 14.04....
[00:43] <blackflow> kantlivelong: it's a random user's PPA
[00:44] <kostkon> swampfox, classic menu indicator?
[00:44] <kantlivelong> i mean i could prol update to 16.04..
[00:44] <swampfox> maybe, im going to look right now. thanks
[00:44] <kostkon> swampfox, you asked the same question like 2 days ago
[00:45] <swampfox> no one answered
[00:45] <blackflow> kantlivelong: perhaps you should if you want those new features. it's not just lvm, you need kernel support, dm-cache, etc... probably an avalanche of updates for 14.04.
[00:45] <kostkon> swampfox, I did
[00:45] <kenrin> The start menu ?
[00:45] <swampfox> sorry maybe i missed it
[00:45] <kostkon> swampfox, that looks like the case
[00:45] <kantlivelong> may as well i guess
[00:46] <blackflow> kantlivelong: just remember, it's systemd.
[00:47] <kantlivelong> blackflow: yeah nothing that would be affected minus backup software prol
[00:47] <swampfox> yes that was it thank you kostkon, sorry i missed your answer before
[00:47] <kantlivelong> its just a home lab kvm box
[00:47] <kostkon> swampfox, no bad feelings. have a nice day
[00:48] <blackflow> kantlivelong: unless you handle services and daemons, you probably won't notice the difference :)
[00:49] <kantlivelong> blackflow: im familiar with systemd <3
[00:49] <blackflow> oh cool
[00:49] <kantlivelong> just lazy
[01:06] <jmoiron> my homedir is in /mnt;  i'm tryung to run something installed from a snap, but apparmor is denying it access;  can provide log from dmesg.  i've tried to give it access but i'm having trouble
[01:06] <jmoiron> deying it access to my homedir because it's on /mnt/ and there is some kind of sandboxing preventing it
[01:06] <jmoiron> denying*
[01:08] <Grorco1> Hi I'm attempting to use genoils ethminer and am having issues with it freezing up my computer. I'm not sure if this is an issue with the driver, kernal or what can anyone help me narrow down what the exact issue is?
[01:08] <orlock> Freezes up the whole computer?
[01:08] <orlock> Grorco1: whhats the source of the software?
[01:09] <Grorco1> orlock, yes it shows the opencl loading to exactly 97% then completely freezes
[01:09] <orlock> Grorco1: mouse locks up?
[01:09] <Grorco1> orlock, I don't actually have a mouse lol
[01:10] <orlock> SO running from console?
[01:10] <Grorco1> orlock, lost mine haven't gotten around to getting a new one. Only using this for the miner so wasn't that worried about it
[01:11] <Grorco1> orlock, from a terminal yes
[01:11] <orlock> Grorco1: when you say completely freezes, do you mean the program or the whole computer?
[01:11] <Grorco1> orlock, the whole computer, have to hard shutdown
[01:12] <orlock> does Ctrl-Alt-f1 work?
[01:12] <Grorco1> orlock, not once it freezes
[01:12] <orlock> Weird, what user does it run as?
[01:12] <Grorco1> orlock, actually let me double check
[01:13] <orlock> Grorco1: i'd probably look at strace at this point, it's not going to fix it but it might provide more insight into what causes the lockup
[01:14] <orlock> Grorco1: strace -f ethminer > ethminer_strace.out
[01:15] <orlock> then after it crashes and you reboot, have a look in ethminer_strace.out
[01:20] <Grorco1> orlock, should I output strace to a file? I've never actually used it.
[01:23] <orlock> Grorco1: Yup, it's pretty much required, too much crap othrwise
[01:23] <orlock> Grorco1:  And the output may not give you anything usefull, but at least you can see the system calls that it made before everything locked up
[01:24] <dray> Hello
[01:24] <orlock> Grorco1: honestly, it's one of my last straw/unfamiliar software debugging methods, usually i'd look at debugging output or logs from the program first
[01:35] <chatter29> hey guys
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[01:40] <Grorco1> orlock, this is a ton of crap to look through, not sure where to start
[01:40] <bazhang> Grorco1, where is this ethermin installed from
[01:41] <orlock> Grorco1: yeah it is - and generally start at the end, as thats where things broke
[01:43] <Grorco1> bazhang, https://github.com/ethereum/cpp-ethereum/
[01:44] <bazhang> Grorco1, which nvidia card, how many cuda core
[01:46] <Grorco1> bazhang, amd rx 480 8gb
[01:46] <bazhang> Grorco1, cuda cores
[01:47] <Grorco1> bazhang, I don't know, I thought amd just used opencl
[01:47] <bazhang> Grorco1, ether mining needs those, and as far as the 3rd party software, you need to contact that packager
[01:48] <bumblefuzz> I've followed all the internet instructions I can find...
[01:48] <bumblefuzz> I can't get my new gpu installed
[01:48] <bazhang> Grorco1, it's typically for nvidia cards and cuda
[01:48] <bumblefuzz> ...or recognized
[01:48] <bumblefuzz> I can pastebinit anything need to help diagnose the issue
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[01:50] <bazhang> Grorco1, so contact the package maintainer and see if they support such an old amd card, or if it's nvidia and cuda only
[01:50] <Grorco1> orlock, it looks like I'm missing a few files
[01:50] <bumblefuzz> I swear I can't come up with a reason why this shouldn't work
[01:50] <bumblefuzz> I've installed all sets of drivers
[01:50] <bumblefuzz> the ADL, the SDK
[01:50] <Grorco1> bazhang, the card is brand new, and it is supported
[01:50] <orlock> Grorco1: Your probably just seeing it try to find a file looking through all the paths it has set and not finding it a bunch of times until it does
[01:51] <bumblefuzz> everything... I can't get ubuntu trecognize my card
[01:51] <orlock> Grorco1: but yeah, supporting non-ubuntu software that interfaces with hardware is really tricky, hassle the maintainers
[01:52] <bazhang> the rx 480? thats amd , Grorco1 does it even have cuda, please ask for support of that support in the proper venue
[01:52] <bazhang> of that software rather
[01:53] <Grorco1> bazhang, I keep telling you I don't need cuda support, you only need that for the nvida drivers. They got support AFTER amd
[01:53] <bazhang> Grorco1, this is not an ubuntu issue
[01:53] <Grorco1> bazhang, the software is written for amd, with patched in cuda support later on
[01:53] <bazhang> Grorco1, contact the packager for support
[01:54] <Grorco1> bazhang, I think the problem maybe related to the amd driver rather than genoil
[01:55] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: Remind me once more. what card and what release ? Be aware I too instaled a new nVidia card that in 14.04 has no native support . // When you boot in 'text' mode, does the kernel advise of the issue ?
[01:55] <Grorco1> bazhang, especially since it keeps looking for amdocl64 and can't find it..
[01:55] <bumblefuzz> Bashing-om the kernel doesn't not advise
[01:55] <bumblefuzz> I'm running ubuntu mate 16.04.2
[01:55] <bumblefuzz> trying to install an AMD RX580
[01:56] <Grorco1> bumblefuzz, did you look at the amdgpu-pro driver?
[01:56] <bumblefuzz> yep
[01:56] <bumblefuzz> it' installed
[01:56] <bumblefuzz> as well as the open source
[01:57] <bumblefuzz> I've installed everything at this point
[01:57] <bumblefuzz> lspci can see the device
[01:57] <bumblefuzz> but it only tells you AMD and the device number
[01:58] <bumblefuzz> lsmod indicates amdgpu
[01:59] <bumblefuzz> but the system still says it doesn't 'see' any video cards
[01:59] <bumblefuzz> via lshw, or whatever
[02:02] <zeebok> bumblefuzz, are you running the newest Mesa driver? The ones that come with Ubuntu I don't believe have been updated to a version that supports it
[02:03] <bumblefuzz> I'm not sure
[02:04] <zeebok> I can't speak for the 580, but I run a 480 and I basically need to grab the stable Mesa PPA in order for it to really work well
[02:04] <bumblefuzz> well, let's give it a try
[02:05] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: Maybe needed os the 4.11 kernel ?/ : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-rx580-linux&num=2 . For Phoronix that card worked out of the box .
[02:06] <bumblefuzz> out of the box?
[02:06] <bumblefuzz> wait, so I can do a fresh install and just upgrade the kernel and be fine
[02:06] <bumblefuzz> ??
[02:07] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: Yeah, no issues and no configuration required .
[02:07] <bumblefuzz> ok ok ok... point me to how to properly upgrade the kernel and I'm just going to wipe and reinstall
[02:09] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: That RX 580 card has not to this time made it to the supported card lists that I have seen.
[02:09] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[02:11] <Bashing-om> bumblefuzz: ^^ do not know that even 17.04 will support that card . suggest ya fire up a live environment of 17.04 and test to see .
[02:31] <crazyhorse18> what's something that can show me disk usage ?
[02:32] <crazyhorse18> i.e. a breakdown of what is using what
[02:32] <crazyhorse18> like tree structure
[02:32] <th0r> crazyhorse18, du?
[02:32] <crazyhorse18> ah yep :)
[02:32] <crazyhorse18> thanks
[02:34] <Bashing-om> !info ncdu xenial | crazyhorse18
[02:38] <mrck10> hey
[02:38] <sparrowsword> how do I ssh into a VM (oracle vm virtualbox) running ubuntu?
[02:38] <mrck10> idk
[02:42] <Wulf> sparrowsword: by using ssh
[02:42] <xXEoflaOEXx> I was trying to get Kubuntu 14.04 working to install it on my hard drive but when I tried to do so, I put my USB drive, and booted from it. when I leave, I got a kernel panic! Saying VFS unable to mount root FS on unknown-block(0,0)!
[02:43] <Wulf> sparrowsword: ip address, username, etc. may vary
[02:51] <syntaks> 'evening folks
[02:51] <syntaks> i've come across a strange issue with 17.04 but i don't believe it's specific to this release
[02:51] <syntaks> upon reboot, it attempts to load up lightdm, but instead after a few flashes on the screen a blinking underscore
[02:52] <syntaks> it was just fine prior, but i had removed a package which had a chain reaction and removed a few others
[02:52] <syntaks> i tried to catch which were removed but it was too quick
[02:52] <cfhowlett> prior to ... ?
[02:52] <syntaks> prior to removing protobuf and protoc
[02:52] <syntaks> it included a few other packages in the process
[02:53] <syntaks> i noticed for example trying to bring up even sound settings in X after that or literally anything that wasn't already spawned wouldn't come up
[02:53] <syntaks> i rebooted thinking something was just wonky due to this being a dev release
[02:53] <syntaks> so i'm in live mode right now
[02:53] <syntaks> grub's being particular and won't bring up a boot menu either
[02:53] <syntaks> was hoping someone might have run into this before :)
[03:02] <xXEoflaOEXx> I was trying to get Kubuntu 14.04 working but when I booted from my USB, I got a kernel panic instead of actually starting the installation. "Kernel Panic: Not syncing - VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)." It appeared that the hash that I downloaded is 1bcf80b32a3978107590271f8c9170fdf3b28c71 when it's supposed to be exact hash as the website says. I know that the download is bad.
[03:03] <Mavericks> what's the nouveau is it some unstable beta package or something  ? https://askubuntu.com/a/821604/596613
[03:03] <Mavericks> hello
[03:03] <Mavericks> there seem to be many issues with nouveau as can be seen here https://askubuntu.com/search?q=Nouveau
[03:03] <Mavericks> would someone recommend installing this ?
[03:03] <Mavericks> at this point ?
[03:03] <cfhowlett> xXEoflaOEXx, noveau is  a graphics driver.  boot through nomodeset for now
[03:03] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset
[03:04] <xXEoflaOEXx> cfhowlett, ok. I am gonna do it to see if this occurs. I am using Radeon 9200 Series by the way.
[03:04] <eelstrebor> does anyone know how to use hplip manager to print odd pages only? (without specifying every odd number)
[03:04] <cfhowlett> xXEoflaOEXx, sorry, got my eyes crossed.  meant the nomodeset advice for Mavericks
[03:06] <Mavericks> cfhowlett: don't see that issue anymore. has anyone had success launching gui app from ubuntu image on docker hosted on WIndows 10/enterprise ?
[03:06] <Mavericks> *ubuntu16.04
[03:12] <xXEoflaOEXx> cfhowlett, I booted thorugh nomodeset and it still gives me that kernel panic despite that it had the X through nomodeset.
[03:18] <star_gazer21> I was reading up on the "source" command and I learned that it's used to execute the contents of the file in the same shell. I'm a little confused here. When I try to run a c++ file, on a shell I don't really have to "source" it, just compile it (with g++) and execute it (a.out). How does source come into the picture here?
[03:20] <star_gazer21> Am I fundamentally misunderstanding something?
[03:20] <orlock> star_gazer21: yeah
[03:21] <orlock> it's for shell commands
[03:21] <orlock> you are talking about taking soruce code and compiling it to a binary
[03:21] <syntaks> fixed
[03:21] <syntaks> i knew it was protobufs
[03:22] <syntaks> for anyone else that might have that issue
[03:22] <syntaks> just boot into live, chroot your root partition
[03:22] <syntaks> edit /etc/resolv.conf
[03:22] <star_gazer21> orlock Oh, I understand now, thanks for the feedback! What would the simplest application of the source command look like?
[03:22] <syntaks> fix-missing and reinstall packages that were removed prior to the last known working config
[03:24] <orlock> star_gazer21: a file with a single command in it?
[03:24] <orlock> and you would then type source filename_with_single_command
[03:24] <orlock> star_gazer21: honestly - never used it "manually" in over 20 years
[03:25] <orlock> star_gazer21: i just make shell cripts which are essentially the same thing
[03:25] <orlock> except the shell scripts are executables with the shell mentioned at the start
[03:26] <star_gazer21> orlock cool, thanks! I'm just wondering what type of files does source actually work on? Definitely not C++ files...
[03:26] <orlock> star_gazer21: from what i can tell, it's just a list of commands you would otherwise type into the shell
[03:26] <orlock> not source
[03:28] <orlock> star_gazer21: easy to test. Make a text file, and put some commands in, one on each line
[03:28] <star_gazer21> star_gazer21: Oh, that makes sense. So if I have a file that has, say "ls" followed by "cd dr", and if I source that file, those commands will be executed? (I'm going to try that out right now but I have a feeling I'm misunderstadndng something)
[03:29] <orlock> some examples: uname -a   df -h   ls -al /etc/
[03:29] <orlock> thats three seperate shell commands, put them into a text file, one on each line and then type "source my_textfile_name
[03:29] <orlock> and it will run each of them the same as if you had just done the following
[03:29] <orlock> uname -a ; df -h ; ls -al /etc
[03:30] <star_gazer21> awesome, thanks so much orlock!
[03:47] <linux> hello
[03:47] <linux> you ren zai ma?
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> !english | linux
[03:54] <linux_> hello
[03:55] <linux> hhh
[03:55] <linux> 123
[03:55] <orlock> abc
[03:55] <linux_> defg
[03:55] <linux> hijklmn
[03:55] <ehmk> op
[03:55] <linux_> q
[03:56] <linux_> rsg
[03:56] <linux> rstuvwxyz
[03:56] <linux_> good
[03:56] <linux_> 123
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> linux_ orlock stop that please, this is ubuntu support channel
[04:02] <Hejkki> jasådet
[04:19] <samoak> i've recently got Lenovo Thinkpad E470. installed CentOS 7.3 on the same. my sound driver isn't working. i want to try with latested ubuntu release. does anyone know if latest ubuntu release has supporting drivers for Lenovo Thinkpad E470 ?
[04:21] <YankDownUnder> samoak: Find out the hardware specs and you'll be able to look through the wiki/forums to see if there's a match. That being said, you can always merely create a bootable USB and find out "live"...hmm?
[04:22] <samoak> YankDownUnder: indeed.
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> samoak: another good idea would be choosing an LTS release as most machines react a more stable way on it
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> samoak: for newer hardware non-lts can also help in some cases
[04:28] <Umeaboy> Anyone getting a hash error when updating?
[04:28] <Umeaboy> https://pastebin.ca/3805983
[04:29] <samoak> lotuspsychje: k, thank you very much.
[04:29] <Umeaboy> I ran sudo dkpg --configure -a and nothing had to be fixed.
[04:29] <samoak> lotuspsychje: i think Thinkpad E470 is around for a long time now.
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: we dont support external ppa's here mate
[04:30] <YankDownUnder> Umeaboy: I don't smoke hash, so I don't get errors.
[04:30] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: The PPA is not the problem.
[04:30] <Umeaboy> That works fine.
[04:31] <samoak> lotuspsychje: CentOS has always been a favourite OS for me. but i think i'll've to change to debian/ubuntu
[04:31] <Umeaboy> Error:7 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-updates/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata
[04:31] <Umeaboy> See?
[04:31] <Umeaboy> samoak: Ever tried Mageia? :)
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Umeaboy
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> Umeaboy: I was a Mandrake op for years...until, well, it wasn't...so it's still basically the same (from an objective point of view)
[04:32] <samoak> Umeaboy: no, never heard of it either. sorry.
[04:32] <Umeaboy> YankDownUnder: Yeah. Still stable and less flashy. :)
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> Umeaboy: Have you tried "purging" the PPA's and the re-adding the PPA's?
[04:32] <Umeaboy> YankDownUnder: Nope.
[04:32] <Umeaboy> samoak: Check distrowatch.com :)
[04:33] <samoak> Umeaboy: sure. :)
[04:34] <f1nch_> Manjaro? =P
[04:35] <Umeaboy> YankDownUnder: The PPA isn't the problem.
[04:35] <Umeaboy> I told you.
[04:36] <Umeaboy> I still get that error when updating without it.
[04:36] <YankDownUnder> Umeaboy: So, then you DID purge the PPA's and then re-added them, yes?
[04:37] <Umeaboy> What's the easiest way to regenerate the standard list of repos for Ubuntu after you've deleted them?
[04:37] <YankDownUnder> Umeaboy: Snag the /etc/apt/sources.list from the ISO or from a liveUSB...or snag it from online...
[04:39] <Bashing-om> Umeaboy: Also : http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ <-Ubuntu Sources.List Generator
[04:39] <Umeaboy> YankDownUnder: I used System settings->Program & updates
[04:49] <Umeaboy> YankDownUnder: Issue still remains even thou I regenerated the list.
[04:51] <YankDownUnder> Umeaboy: What's the output look like? (Pastebinit)
[04:58] <Umeaboy> Hold on........... Gotta reboot.
[05:07] <nexace> Windows 10 did an update today and completely jacked up my grub. Upon boot I get the grub rescue prompt, however nothing I've tried through google research is working to fix. I am currently in a live ubuntu boot, can anyone please assist?
[05:09] <Bashing-om> !grub | nexace
[05:10] <YankDownUnder> nexace: There's also: http://www.legendiary.at/2016/01/04/windows-10-update-changes-partition-table-and-breaks-grub/
[05:11] <nexace> yep tried both of those
[05:11] <nexace> hmm an interesting deviation though with the /grub2
[05:12] <nexace> i
[05:12] <nexace> i'll try it
[05:22] <Bruda> You can boot your Ubuntu installation from the live CD. Just use the grub console. Figure out which device has your ubuntu /boot dir then use the console 'configfile' command. From there you can boot Ubuntu and install grub again.
[05:41] <amiiboh> Hrm, there's something in my system tray that has no icon and nothing in it when I pop it open.
[05:41] <amiiboh> Any way to find out what it is so I can kill it or make it go away?
[05:42] <nexace> My grub is messed up after Windows 10 update. On boot I only get grub rescue menu. My linux partition is /dev/sda4 but it won't let me mount it saying its wrong fs type. I checked the windows parition /dev/sda2 and all of the files are still there.
[05:42] <nexace> How can I fix this boot issue? boot-repair is not working either
[05:44] <YankDownUnder> nexace: Everything we gave you earlier has not worked?
[05:44] <nexace> no sir
[05:44] <nexace> tried it all multiple times
[05:44]  * YankDownUnder shrugs
[05:44] <YankDownUnder> Sorry bro...not a Windows fan/fanatic...especially NOT Win10...
[05:44] <nexace> I'm trying to reinstall grub2 manually but I can't get /dev/sda4 to mount
[05:49] <YankDownUnder> nexace: In Windows - did you turn off hibernation and "fastboot/fast shutdown"?
[05:49] <nexace> should the linux partition have the "boot" flag in gparted?
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> amiiboh: imgur.com what you mean?
[05:50] <nexace> YankDownUnder: no... the update did an automatic reboot and after that it broke
[05:50] <YankDownUnder> nexace: Suggestion: do that. Turn off hibernation and disable "fastboot/fast shutdown" - reboot Windows, then re-start your work on grub/linux
[05:51] <nexace> in bios?
[05:51] <nexace> i cant boot into windows
[05:51] <nexace> i cant boot into anything other than live ubuntu
[05:51] <YankDownUnder> nexace: In Windows. The settings in Windows - for power...you can also do it from the "powershell" or "cmd" prompt.
[05:52] <nexace> YankDownUnder: im stuck, i cant boot into anything. only the live ubuntu cd
[05:53] <YankDownUnder> nexace: Obviously that's not cool. What's supposed to be on /dev/sda4? What kind of partition is that?
[05:54] <nexace> i like 95% its an ext2, only other possibility is ext4
[05:54] <nexace> my primary ubuntu partition
[05:54] <Bashing-om> nexace: Before I go into this, how do you know that sda4 is your linux root partition ?
[05:54] <YankDownUnder> nexace: Ah. Fair enough.
[05:54] <nexace> /dev/sda4       1260347390 1465147391  204800002  97.7G  5 Extended
[05:54] <nexace> /dev/sda5       1456764928 1465147391    8382464     4G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
[05:55] <nexace> 1,2,and 3 all say NTFS and I can tell they are the windows partitions
[05:56] <Bashing-om> nexace: Nope . and extended partition is a container to hild "logical" partitions . show us on a pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' .
[05:56] <YankDownUnder> nexace: In saying that you're "trying" to mount /dev/sda4 - er, what happens? What errors are you getting...?
[05:56] <YankDownUnder> "hild"?
[05:56] <Bashing-om> hild/hold*
[05:56] <YankDownUnder> Hehehhehehahaha
[05:56] <YankDownUnder> Yersh...
[05:56] <nexace> Bashing-om: https://paste2.org/YCChkPHW
[05:58] <Monica_Heart> so lately my sounds stopped working after i unplugged my laptop from a lot of things and today i typed into the command line
[05:58] <Monica_Heart> pacmd
[05:58] <Monica_Heart> Welcome to PulseAudio 8.0! Use "help" for usage information.
[05:58] <Monica_Heart> >>> list-sinks
[05:58] <Monica_Heart> and it says
[05:58] <Bashing-om> nexace: Nope. no linux partition exist any more . :(
[05:58] <Monica_Heart> muted: yes
[05:59] <nexace> sigh
[05:59] <Monica_Heart> is there any way to unmute this? I tried amixer set Master on, amixer set Master unmute
[05:59] <nick__> Has anyone ever limited a user's access to only use a certain network device before?  (e.g. tun0 ) ?
[06:00] <nexace> Bashing-om: so best option is to just install ubuntu on that sda4 section and it should fix grub2 right?
[06:00] <YankDownUnder> nexace: Keyword: *should*
[06:01] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Is there a "mute" key on the laptop? Have you tried to hit that or the volume keys on the laptop?
[06:01] <Bruda> If there's already an ubuntu installation it's not necessary to install again. Just to load it up and install grub. Maybe regenerate the config if the other OS's are not listed.
[06:02] <nexace> Bruda: parted -l is apparently not showing the partition
[06:02] <nexace> the blocked off section is still there though
[06:02] <Bruda> nexace: you can check from the live grub console.
[06:03] <nexace> through the lice cd?
[06:03] <nexace> lvie
[06:03] <nexace> live
[06:03] <Monica_Heart> YankDownUnder, yupp
[06:03] <Bruda> yea load grub on the live cd. Enter console with '
[06:03] <Bruda> c'
[06:03] <Bruda> then type 'ls' command to see devices.
[06:03] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:04] <Bruda> wait. Let me back up. I might be confused on what you are trying to do. Does Ubuntu boot?
[06:04] <Bashing-om> nexace: well, in that extended partiton of 105GB minus the swap of 4292MB ; you can make up another logical partition . Now if you are certain that at one time there was a linux install .. testdisk "might" be able to recover it ( an image is highly recommneded ) .
[06:04] <Monica_Heart> 16.04
[06:04] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Unity desktop, or something else?
[06:05] <Monica_Heart> something else
[06:05] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Which "something else", hmm?
[06:05] <Monica_Heart> I can try unity really quick though
[06:05] <Monica_Heart> awesome wm
[06:05] <Bruda> nexace: Did you say your windows update overwrote your grub? You are trying to fix it? Correct?
[06:05] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: No...no need to switch desktops...just was wondering...
[06:06] <nexace> Bruda: yes that is correct. everything worked fine, then windows 10 did an upadte and rebooted, then grub broke
[06:06] <hateball> !fixgrub
[06:06] <Bruda> Ok. Yea you can load the live cd grub. Then use grub console to boot Ubuntu
[06:06] <nexace> thanks hateball but already tried that 6 times
[06:07] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Since you've got a terminal open, can you type: sudo systemctl restart osspd ----> please?
[06:07] <nexace> bruda: how do I get into the grub console from terminal?
[06:07] <Bruda> nexace you hit 'c'.
[06:07] <Monica_Heart> YankDownUnder, it says the service was not found :o
[06:08] <Bashing-om> Bruda: Your attention is invited to : https://paste2.org/YCChkPHW for nexace . No linux partition exist .
[06:08] <nexace> bruda: when I reboot I get the grub-rescue prompt, not the normal grub prompt
[06:08] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Right...hang on a tick...
[06:08] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Can you type: sudo systemctl restart pulseaudio ---> please?
[06:08] <Monica_Heart> yupp
[06:09] <Bruda> Bashing-om: worth a shot to see if grub can find his linux partition. But I get what you are hinting at.
[06:09] <Monica_Heart> can't find it :O
[06:09] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Try: sudo service pulseaudio restart
[06:09] <nexace> bruda: i am currently booted into the live ubuntu cd desktop. how do I access the grub menu?
[06:10] <Monica_Heart> YankDownUnder, negative
[06:10] <Bashing-om> Bruda: I am always willing to be shown something new . I go into my lurk mode :)
[06:10] <Bruda> nexace: if you are in the desktop you passed grub already actually.
[06:10] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Hmm...so what exactly did you "unplug" - is the audio supposed to be going to external speakers, or to the speakers in the laptop...?
[06:10] <nexace> but I booted from cd
[06:11] <Bruda> right. But you booted the live environment. The grub console is in the bootloader.
[06:11] <Monica_Heart> YankDownUnder, it was going to the external speakers and then
[06:11] <YankDownUnder> nexace: When you reboot, STOP before the "LiveCD" starts...THAT is the grub menu...
[06:11] <Bruda> you boot the CD but before you boot the live Ubuntu you hit 'c' to get into grub console.
[06:11] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: ...and then...?
[06:11] <Monica_Heart> i unplugged it, but neither the speakers nor the built in laptop sound doesn't work
[06:11] <Monica_Heart> anymroe
[06:12] <nexace> sigh we are all over the place
[06:12] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Fair enough.
[06:12] <nexace> ok. PC powers on, i immediately get grub-rescue prompt. can go no further
[06:12] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Is it possible to power off the machine...let it sit for a few seconds...and then turn it back on again?
[06:12] <nexace> the only way around is to insert ubuntu cd and boot live ubuntu
[06:12] <Monica_Heart> YankDownUnder, tried that :P
[06:13] <Monica_Heart> oh heres my sudo aplay -l btw
[06:13] <nexace> anyway, re-installing ubuntu will fix this
[06:13] <Monica_Heart> http://termbin.com/0b87
[06:14] <Monica_Heart> it actually omitted the part where it says
[06:14] <Monica_Heart> Home directory not accessible: Permission denied
[06:14] <Monica_Heart> I think this might be a problem
[06:14] <Bruda> nexace: yea you can go that route too. If you have trouble even just accessing a grub console then explaining how to fix grub might be difficult.
[06:14] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Well, hmm...without "knowing" the "awesome wm"...what I would suggest is (in the terminal) type: unity-control-center ==> when the control center appears, check the audio settings - as I would presume that the audio is setup for external speaker output, hence your inability to control the laptop speakers...hmm?
[06:14] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Er...home directory not accessible: Permission denied ==> you're seeing this WHERE?
[06:15] <nexace> bruda: I can only get to grub-rescue prompt. HOWEVER, if I boot into the ubuntu live cd I can do whatever to the filesystem.
[06:15] <Monica_Heart> YankDownUnder, in the sudo aplay -l
[06:15] <Bruda> nexace: on the liveCD there's a grub menu. That's where you find grub console.
[06:15] <jackhum> can anyone tell me what is this gnome thingy in need
[06:15] <jackhum> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/gnome-os-x-mac-gtk-theme-for-linux
[06:15] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Don't do "sudo aplay -l" --> just do "aplay -l"
[06:15] <jackhum> i think i am using unity , can i install this thmee
[06:15] <Bruda> nexace: is usually the first thing to load up. Might have to hit a key to kill the Ubuntu live boot to see grub menu.
[06:16] <Monica_Heart> YankDownUnder, oh truu
[06:22] <Monica_Heart> YankDownUnder, ah gosh it was muted
[06:22] <Monica_Heart> I just got it to work by using pavucontrol
[06:22] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: Funny that. Hmm. :)
[06:22] <Monica_Heart> YankDownUnder, Thank you :D
[06:23] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: YOU found the answer - YOU pat yerself on the back and buy yerself a donut. :)
[06:23] <Monica_Heart> hahahaah
[06:23] <Monica_Heart> if i buy a donut I will have to share with you though
[06:23] <Monica_Heart> ;)
[06:23] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: As long as it's a vegetarian donut without any meat or alcohol in it. Great.
[06:24] <Monica_Heart> lol wat donut has meat or alcohol xD
[06:24] <YankDownUnder> Monica_Heart: None.
[06:25] <Monica_Heart> so ur safe
[06:27] <Bruda> I almost just want to list the steps just so I can say I've said HOW to load an installed Linux system from a live cd grub.
[06:31] <Bruda> Does anyone else want to try it just for the hell of it? It's pretty useful to know.
[06:31]  * YankDownUnder looks at his rock solid system(s)
[06:31] <YankDownUnder> Bruda: Er...nah...
[06:31] <Bruda> lol
[06:32] <YankDownUnder> Next meteor strike, I'll turn off the machines and give it a go, Bruda
[06:33] <Bruda> I've had to mess around with grub when I created my multiboot live USB drives. Learned a lot about booting.
[06:35] <akik> Bruda: you basically need three grub commands: linux, initrd and boot
[06:35] <Bruda> akik: you can also just use configfile command.
[06:36] <Bruda> akik: if you know where the installed grub.cfg is you can load it, then it boots the installed grub menu. Even if it was overwritten from mbr.
[07:00] <katsumeblisk> I have a dumb question. What is it called where you use s/foo/bar to change foo to bar in the previous command? DuckDuckGo isn't helping because I don't know what to search for.
[07:00] <Ben64> katsumeblisk: sed?
[07:01] <katsumeblisk> Ben64: That's probably it. I couldn't remember. It was something I learned years ago, and being nerd I always did "s//" to replace things in text messages and stuff, but I forgot the actual command
[07:01] <katsumeblisk> Ben64: That's totally it. Thank you!
[07:01] <Ben64> cool
[07:29] <gredjok> if i suspend my notebook with function keys it hangs when I press any key to un-suspend after 14 hours and I have to unplug and replug. Should I expect suspend to work if I execute it from the shell
[07:29] <gredjok> ?
[07:34] <Vorap> ic
[07:34] <Vorap> Oops, don't mind that
[07:39] <mohdemad> When I open a .docx file with equations in libreoffice writer the equations are shown as images and also some symbols are missing. How can I fix this?
[07:40] <YankDownUnder> .docx is not a "spreadsheet" file... -> an .xlsx is a spreadsheet file.
[07:42] <mohdemad> YankDownUnder: I mean .docx, a word file with math equations
[07:42] <ducasse> gredjok: why expect - try?
[07:43] <YankDownUnder> mohdemad: Fair enough. Have you tried asking in #libreoffice yet?
[07:44] <fadavi> hello there. how can i completely come back to Upstart and purge Systemd? guide me, please.
[07:44] <mohdemad> YankDownUnder: yeah I asked there but got no answer
[07:45] <Bashing-om> fadavi: You do not - systemd is here to stay . if ya gots to have upstart then 14.04 will be around for a bit yet .
[07:49] <gredjok> i just executed "suspend" in the shell and nothing happpened. there is no manpanges either...
[07:51] <fadavi> Bashing-om: are you sure? i thought we can choose between Systemd, Upstart, etc.
[07:52] <pa> hi
[07:52] <pa> nouveau keep crashing my X
[07:52] <pa> gpu: nvidia quadro 310
[07:52] <pa> NVS
[07:52] <pa> ubuntu 16.04.2
[07:53] <ducasse> fadavi: not anymore, upstart is no longer developed and lots of stuff won't work with it
[07:53] <pa> what can i do?
[07:54] <fadavi> ducasse: :( thanks.
[07:55] <pa> i get like:
[07:55] <pa> [   48.144501] nouveau 0000:03:00.0: fifo: INTR 01000000: 00000005
[07:55] <pa> [   48.144507] nouveau 0000:03:00.0: fifo: INTR 00800000
[07:56] <pa> and after a while it crashes
[07:56] <pa> cant even switch to TTY
[07:56] <fadavi> how can i get full detailed log of current boot?
[07:57] <ducasse> fadavi: on 16.04 and up, 'journalctl -b 0'
[07:57] <fadavi> ducasse: thankks again.
[08:03] <thamcita> hola
[08:04] <efu> hello guys, any know alternatve  proxifier for ubuntu?
[08:04] <YankDownUnder> Buenos noches...
[08:05] <thamcita> alguien sabe de algún curso 'completo' de Python para iniciar?
[08:05] <YankDownUnder> thamcita: !es
[08:05] <thamcita> Donde(?
[08:06] <hateball> !es | thamcita
[08:23] <pizzaSteve> Hello! Need help with printing on xubuntu 17.04. HP LaserJet M1132 MFP, is visible and shown as connected. Whenever I print, I get "error processing document". The diagnostic output says "Page 1 (<troubleshoot.SchedulerNotRunning.SchedulerNotRunning object at 0x7f7d7e907e48>): {'cups_connection_failure': False}". Any suggestions?
[08:24] <hateball> pizzaSteve: How did you install the printer? Using the add printer wizard?
[08:25] <hateball> pizzaSteve: Sometimes it picks the wrong driver (default) so maybe you are using foomatic when it needs to use hpijs
[08:25] <hateball> or vice versa
[08:25] <pizzaSteve> I did not install it. Checked "dpkg -l hplip" and it shows that xubuntu comes pre-installed with driverts
[08:25] <fadavi> how can i fix this message in my boot log? "SSSD couldn't load the configuration database [2]: No such file or directory."
[08:25] <hateball> pizzaSteve: You can edit the printer and pick a different driver, see if that works better
[08:34] <chull> my husband wants to know if ubuntu 16.04 will work on his Lenovo Flex 3?
[08:35] <tarzeau> chull: try it?
[08:36] <grek> hi i try mount ftp in fstab - add this curlftpfs#ftp://grek:pass@192.168.1.37 /mnt/synology fuse rw,allow_other,noauto,user 0 0
[08:36] <grek> mount -a
[08:36] <chull> hi tarzeau :)
[08:36] <grek> any errors but folder empty
[08:37] <grek> ftp://grek:pass@192.168.1.37  in dolphin open ftp ftp://grek:pass@192.168.1.37
[08:37] <grek> where can by a problem ?
[08:37] <grek> /mnt/synology owner my user group fuse, my user is in fuse group
[08:43] <tiyteeze> grek: do you succeed to mount the partition in Dolphin?
[08:43] <pizzaSteve> hateball: How do I use hpijs instead of foomatic ?
[08:45] <grek> tiyteeze i can connect with dolphin but mount not work
[08:45] <hateball> pizzaSteve: you should be able to pick the driver if you edit the printer
[08:45] <hateball> pizzaSteve: I dont remember what the gui looks like in xubuntu (or ubuntu) tho but it shouldnt be too hard to find
[08:46] <grek> curlftpfs grek:pass@192.168.1.37 /mnt/synology
[08:46] <grek> from terminal mount this as root
[08:46] <pizzaSteve> hatebll: I did find it, gives me additional options to provide my own .PPD file (can't find it on the driver CD), and search for a driver to download (doesn't find my model), so im looking online for the PPD file
[08:47] <pizzaSteve> *hateball
[08:47] <grek> ok i reboot mayby it work
[08:47] <hateball> pizzaSteve: if you can grab the windows driver you can usually unpack that exe and steal the PPD
[08:47] <sjd_zeus> hi all
[08:47] <fadavi> sssd must be installed on a PC? whats the result of removing it?
[08:48] <pizzaSteve> hateball: is that a simple process ?
[08:49] <hateball> pizzaSteve: I am looking on http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/color_laserjet.html for your M1132 but there's nothing
[08:49] <hateball> pizzaSteve: and yes, usually
[08:50] <tiyteeze> grek: So ?
[08:50] <grek> no not work
[08:50] <grek> fuse rw,allow_other,noauto,user 0 0  - noauto ?
[08:50] <grek> change it to auto ?
[08:51] <grek> i have empty folder /mnt/synology
[08:51] <pizzaSteve> hateball: you are looking at color laserjet, mine is greyscale: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_professional_m1132_mfp.html
[08:51] <hateball> pizzaSteve: oh, it's not color, is why
[08:51] <hateball> :)
[08:51] <tiyteeze> grek: why do you want to mount it using the terminal ?
[08:51] <grek> no i want mount using fstab
[08:51] <pizzaSteve> hateball: yup. Could you please provide any link on how to extract the .PPD file from the driver .exe?
[08:51] <grek> but not work
[08:52] <grek> curlftpfs#grek:pass@192.168.1.37 /mnt/synology fuse rw,allow_other,noauto,user 0 0
[08:52] <grek> this is fstab line
[08:53] <netcrime> Hello. Im using Ubuntu 16.04 desktop. I'm trying to set a cron job based on owncloud tutorial. crontab -u www-data -l */15  *  *  *  * php-cli -f /var/www/owncloud/cron.php
[08:53] <netcrime>  this line gives me error crontab: invalid option -- 'f'
[08:53] <netcrime>   what might be the problem? how to solve it ?
[08:53] <tiyteeze> netcrime: Maybe you should go to the #owncloud channel
[08:54] <tiyteeze> netcrime: (/join #owncloud)
[08:54] <tiyteeze> netcrime: You will have more chance to get support
[08:55] <hateball> pizzaSteve: can you instead run "hp-plugin" ?
[08:55] <Toxtlo> when intel releases its new xeons, will ubuntu work with them? can anybody point out some "keywords" I might look for to get further infos?
[08:55] <Komputerfreak> hi
[08:55] <hateball> pizzaSteve: that should prompt to download the plugins needed by hplip
[08:56] <netcrime> tiyteeze: You think this is onwcloud problem and not ubuntu cron setting ?
[08:56] <pizzaSteve> hateball: here's what I got: https://ghostbin.com/paste/h96ty
[08:57] <hateball> pizzaSteve: oh you dont have Qt installed. try with -i as suggested then
[08:57] <hateball> or install Qt :p
[08:59] <Komputerfreak> i have a HP printer too, hplip works very well with it
[09:00] <hateball> Yep, usually does. Just that some models need these binary blobs as well
[09:01] <pizzaSteve> hateball: works like a charm. A million Thanks to You! You're awesome!
[09:01] <hateball> pizzaSteve: nice :)
[09:01] <Toxtlo> me too, got some problems with it after upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04, purging and reinstalling with synaptic packet manager helped
[09:02] <Komputerfreak> It is one of those scanner-printer-combo-devices. I could print and scan immediately without having to fiddle with anything. Very nice work by HP.
[09:02] <Toxtlo> most of them have a webscan feature too
[09:03] <Toxtlo> used this most of the time
[09:04] <fadavi> how can i fix this message in my boot log? "SSSD couldn't load the configuration database [2]: No such file or directory."
[09:07] <Komputerfreak> what database could it be looking for?
[09:13] <fadavi> Komputerfreak: i dont know, its in sssd log.
[09:20] <jarnos> Is it ok to use xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 with non-hwe kernels (4.4.0 series, no linux-generic-hwe-16.04 installed)?
[09:39] <[2]tt> .
[09:39] <[2]tt> ?
[09:43] <fishcooker> anyone using this https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages i've noticed that there is a thunderbird-trunk but after update ... i can't get the package
[09:45] <fadavi> i've these errors in my boot log: paste.ubuntu.com/24497709 please someone help me to solve them.
[09:45] <fadavi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24497709/
[09:48] <vincenzoml> Hi, I can't enable memtest86 at grub boot, I have the package installed but update-grub won't add entries to grub.cfg
[09:48] <vincenzoml> I'm on 17.04
[09:48] <vincenzoml> seems like I'm using EFI boot and that can cause problems, is there any simple procedure to follow
[09:48] <vincenzoml> ?
[09:50] <vincenzoml> I see this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/883017 but no resolution
[09:50] <grek> ok i mont this disk in fstab
[09:51] <grek> but have strange think - in dolphin ftp - i have transfer about 50MB/s in fuse mount abount 200kB/s :)
[09:51] <grek> curlftpfs#grek:pass@192.168.1.37 /mnt/synology fuse rw,allow_other,user,_netdev 0 0
[09:51] <grek> maybe sommethink wrong ?
[09:53] <grek> there is other more speed way?  ntfs / samba ? any idea ?
[10:14] <aadi> Hey all, anyone here knows, how to fix that annoying chrome flickering, this happens only in ubuntu :(
[10:15] <bazhang> aadi, chrome fro the google repos?
[10:16] <bazhang> aadi, or did you mean chromium-browser
[10:17] <aadi> bazhang, chrome from the google repo
[10:17] <snw> hello friends
[10:18] <bazhang> aadi, as in the browser? what cvould be 'flickeing in that
[10:18] <aadi> bazhang, It happens mostly when I surf the web
[10:18] <bazhang> aadi, doing what
[10:19] <aadi> bazhang, Anything on the web
[10:19] <bazhang> aadi, video is what flickering refers to
[10:23] <aadi> bazhang, I mean that my chrome web page which is currently I am viewing, flickers continually, which is annoying as hell. I searched the net too but couldn't find anything useful :(
[10:24] <bazhang> aadi, have you checked the google bugtracher for issues with that? tried the same exact, but with different browswers?
[10:24] <bazhang> -w
[10:27] <aadi> bazhang, yup I did, Mozilla is good but only this chrome is making problem :(
[10:28] <bazhang> aadi, so what did a search of the google bugtracker turn up
[10:31] <aadi> bazhang, I turned off the hardware acceleration that solves but that restricts the UI of the chrome that I don't like:(
[10:34] <Schrostfutz> Hi, I want to modify a .deb package I built. How can I extract it?
[10:38] <rek> i did sudo rm -r /*  what can i do now?
[10:38] <rek> i get an error at the boot
[10:38] <superKiller> I have a gnome question, how can I stop the activities window from being displayed when i hover over the activities on the top left, the solutions i googled were for 11.10 and required to go into the /usr/share/gnome-shell/js/.. but i cant find a js directory in gnome-shell
[10:38] <cfhowlett> rek, why did you use that command
[10:39] <rek> to delete a folder i was in... but i did /* instead of the path of the folder... i was going on holiday and i was late
[10:40] <cfhowlett> sadly, ubuntu has no protection against such user errors.  reinstall.
[10:41] <rek> cfhowlett,  luckily my personal data in /home was ok...
[10:41] <aadi> bazhang, I fixed it bruh :)
[10:42] <sirru5h> Hey I've already setup my partitions I have quite a bit still which is free can I safely resize my /home partition
[10:43] <cfhowlett> sirru5h, boot into a USB and repartition away.  do NOT repartition while booted into your current installed system
[10:44] <sirru5h> cfhowlett, sounds good I just didn't want to find myself nuking my /home or something equally as destructive
[10:48] <laalaa> i'm in the process of installing ubuntu, it said existing changes to partitions need to be applied before continuing and it's been doing that for 25min, is that normal? (it's an ssd)
[10:49] <cfhowlett> are you repartitioning?
[10:52] <sirru5h> well not repartitioning I got a partition which has lots of free space
[10:52] <sirru5h> and I would like to basically resize
[10:53] <cfhowlett> resizing = repartitioning.  depending on your ram, yeah, it can take time.
[10:53] <sirru5h> i apologize thought that you were asking me a question
[10:54] <sirru5h> I run an old netbook and it took me about 30 minutes
[10:59] <zap0> is 7zip something that is easy to integrate with the file prowser app?
[11:00] <zap0> browser/
[11:20] <danieeel> I made dd with mbr.bin to wrong partition, is there any way to recover data on that partition?
[11:20] <danieeel> Hi
[11:22] <EriC^^> !testdisk | danieeel
[11:22] <EriC^^> danieeel: yes, sudo apt-get install testdisk
[11:22] <EriC^^> danieeel: do you have an old parted -l or fdisk paste of the disk? that would be easier maybe
[11:23] <laalaa> so ubuntu has been "applying changes" to partitions on installation for an hour, should i pull the plug and prepare unallocated space on another partitioning utility?
[11:23] <danieeel> EriC^^: Im not on that computer, not able to paste it
[11:23] <cfhowlett> yeah, I'd say it faile
[11:23] <EriC^^> danieeel: does the other pc have an internet connection?
[11:24] <danieeel> EriC^^: Yes
[11:24] <EriC^^> danieeel: do "cat /path/to/stuff | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:25] <danieeel> what is path to stuff?
[11:26] <oderu> how to remove plex media server on ubuntu
[11:26] <danieeel> what path exactly?
[11:26] <danieeel> EriC^^: ^^
[11:27] <danieeel> EriC^^: You mean I should do fdisk -l >> file.txt and then cat file.txt | nc ... ?
[11:27] <sam_wong> Hi, what command am I able to check the present wifi channel ?
[11:28] <EriC^^> danieeel: no i meant if you had an old paste of fdisk -l (before the mbr went) you could use it to restore the mbr
[11:28] <EriC^^> danieeel: if you dont have a paste somewhere or maybe in your browser history etc then install testdisk sudo apt-get install testdisk and type sudo testdisk
[11:29] <EriC^^> sam_wong: nmcli dev wifi
[11:29] <danieeel> EriC^^: If I type fdisk -l now I get partition type HPFS/NTFS/EXFAT
[11:29] <danieeel> partition type is still the same
[11:29] <danieeel> Ok Im trying with testdisk
[11:30] <sam_wong> Eric: thanks a lot
[11:30] <EriC^^> sam_wong: no problem
[11:34] <EriC^^> danieeel: in testdisk you can view the files of the partition by pressing "p"
[11:34] <laalaa> lol "your screen, graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly. you will need to configure these yourself." implying i know how :D
[11:36] <laalaa> i have one monitor on intel igpu and another on discrete gpu, i guess that's too much
[11:36] <GinTT> hi budies ,how to connect a hidden wifi ,which its ssid and password are known .
[11:40] <danieeel> EriC^^: I can install packages from live edition?
[11:40] <EriC^^> danieeel: yeah
[11:40] <hateball> GinTT: edit network connections and enter the information manually
[11:42] <wadadli> Does anyone know how to get entire directories with ftp?
[11:42] <GinTT> hateball: i edited it and added Wi-Fi connection, but how to activate it and how to use it ?
[11:42] <tarzeau> wadadli: lftp mirror ?
[11:43] <hateball> GinTT: I dont use unity so I dont really know what the nm-gui looks like there. should be able to rightclick and connect I guess?
[11:43] <wadadli> tarzeau: ?
[11:43] <danieeel> EriC^^: Shoud I execute analyse option in testdisk?
[11:44] <wadadli> tarzeau: I'm using ftp from the cli on a godaddy web host
[11:44] <wadadli> trying to pull down the entire httpdocs director
[11:44] <danieeel> EriC^^: Disk was detected with Intel partition Type
[11:44] <ikonia> wadadli: it's normally a client restriction
[11:44] <tarzeau> wadadli: lftp is also a cli program
[11:44] <EriC^^> danieeel: yes
[11:46] <danieeel> EriC^^: I executed quicksearch, good
[11:46] <danieeel> ?
[11:46] <EriC^^> danieeel: yes
[11:49] <wadadli> tarzeau: I downloaded it but it's throwing a cerfificate verification error
[11:53] <Jackal08> Hi guys, What is the best way to search for a chat about trading financial markets? Sorry Im new here and i am a little lost.
[11:54] <cfhowlett> !alis | Jackal08
[11:55] <wadadli> tarzeau: how do I download entire directory with this program?
[11:57] <danieeel> EriC^^: After quicksearch is done, what will be next step. I will be able to copy those files to usb for example?
[11:57] <tarzeau> wadadli: i usually do lftp thesite.ftp
[11:57] <tarzeau> wadadli: then mirror help, help mirror, i don't remember, and then -m or -r or so
[11:57] <EriC^^> danieeel: if you want, yes, you can also pick which partitions you want and it'll be the new partition table and write it
[11:57] <tarzeau> wadadli: you will figure out, since you're familiar with cli and ftp :)
[11:58] <danieeel> EriC^^: great!
[12:01] <danieeel> EriC^^: I gues I should do dd to sda not sda1 right?
[12:01] <EriC^^> danieeel: huh?
[12:01] <EriC^^> in what context?
[12:03] <danieeel> EriC^^: cause today I had a problem with disk, system couldnt find linux partition and which was visible was windows partition. So I wanted to start windows without grub loader and I installed mbr.bin with dd on sda1
[12:04] <danieeel> and one which was visible*
[12:06] <danieeel> EriC^^: But I installed mbr.bin to /dev/sda1, but it should be /dev/sda right?
[12:09] <multifractal> I want to get some kind of 2in1 laptop/tablet to save my back pain. Microsoft surface pro looks to be among the best, but I will only buy something that I can install Ubuntu on. https://askubuntu.com/questions/791976/installing-ubuntu-on-surface-pro-4 Is this currently the status of support? I'd need the keyboard attachment to work.
[12:10] <FinalX> hmm. I've got a bunch of LXC-containers, but, I can't seem where to find where to disable the getty spawning (xenial, systemd). anyone know? /etc/logind.conf doesn't seem to be the place. Don't need any of them, not even console.
[12:10] <hateball> multifractal: probably better off asking in ##hardware
[12:10] <hateball> multifractal: any (most) chromebook can run ubuntu really, like asus c302
[12:12] <andywork> i use simplescan to scan documents for work on ubuntu. I am mostly very happy with this except that there are no sharpening filter that can be applied. Windows equivalent soft have these things and the scanned documents are clearly sharper and easy on the eyes. Is there a good alternative to SimpleScan that have sharpening options (that is easy to use), should I get another scanner, or scan docs in a VM?
[12:12] <multifractal> hateball: Fair enough, but I'd like it to have a bit of get-up-and-go. Sufrace pros are supposed to be pretty powerful, for a 2in1.
[12:12] <FriendlyFuhrer> hey guys can anyone here help me with repairing my MBR I got this nasty json.refresh bullshit and well I've tried repairing it using several methods of terminal use in ubuntu win7/8 repairdiscs my msi tools disc with winki grub etc
[12:12] <FriendlyFuhrer> anyone have any suggestions on mbr tools that will autofix it for me or anything for reinstallation of my windows..?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> andywork, vm experiment is worth trying
[12:15] <andywork> cfhowlett: I have already done that, which is how I know the difference. Do you suggest that I should keep doing that?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> andywork, if it delivers the quality you need, continue.  IMHO.
[12:24] <EriC^^> danieeel: yeah, but that's an issue, i thought you only erased the /dev/sda 's mbr
[12:25] <andywork> cfhowlett: I admit that I have a cheap scanner. Perhaps the included windows software just compensates for this? Otherwise maybe SimpleScan would have an option? Is this reasonable?
[12:27] <danieeel> EriC^^: So you know the context :) I still should be able to recover files from /dev/sda1?
[12:27] <K-ubuntuer> Hi
[12:27] <cfhowlett> andywork, I've not used simplescan enough to provide a meaningful comparison. Assuming that you drivers are correct and everything is updated, lens are clean, etc, I would expect both to provide equal output.  If that's not happening, you could consider dualbooting with windows.  PITA, I know ...
[12:31] <darthanubis> apt is hanging on aRCHIVE.CONICAL.COM 91.189.92.150
[12:32] <cfhowlett> ... sadly, conical is not an ubuntu issue.
[12:39] <andywork> cfhowlett: I appreciate your input, but there will be no dualboot. I'll stay a bit maybe something comes up.
[12:40] <masterasia> How come when I type 'which phantomjs', it return nothing
[12:40] <masterasia> but typing phantomjs gives me a prompt
[12:40] <masterasia> (meaning it is in the path
[12:40] <masterasia> )
[12:44] <geirha> masterasia: run ''type phantomjs''. The which command is useless
[12:45] <Sparrow__> !find audio-recorde
[12:45] <masterasia> geirha, thanks ->  phantomjs is hashed (/home/edward/applications/bin/phantomjs)
[12:45] <shadeNv> Hello.
[12:45] <shadeNv> Can someone tell me why after watching YT videos for a couple of hours it often happens that my left headphone becomes fuzzy with noise in it?
[12:46] <shadeNv> It's not the headphones because I replaced them.
[12:46] <geirha> masterasia: then it possibly was in PATH at some point, then you've changed PATH at a later time in that shell session
[12:46] <shadeNv> Does anyone else have this happen?
[12:46] <shadeNv> If I reboot my computer it goes away.
[12:46] <shadeNv> Until the next time.
[12:46] <masterasia> geirha, is that what hashed means?
[12:46] <masterasia> I set it in bash_profile
[12:47] <geirha> masterasia: First time you run a command in a session, and it's not a an alias, function or builtin, it search through PATH for it. If it finds it, it stores it in an internal hash table, so next time you run it, it doesn't have to search through PATH again
[12:47] <shadeNv> Could it be my USB sound card?
[12:48] <shadeNv> See, if I test the left speaker now I hear the noise.
[12:49] <shadeNv> Changed digital to analog and now it went away.
[12:49] <shadeNv> What's the difference?
[12:49] <shadeNv> The analog is way louder.
[12:49] <scottjl> need an amp
[12:50] <shadeNv> Why is the analog way louder?
[12:51] <zap0> shhh, the hipsters will get excited.
[12:52] <shadeNv> about what?
[12:53] <shadeNv> honestly, this analog sounds very good
[12:53] <shadeNv> seems like a significant improvement over the digital
[12:53] <shadeNv> i wonder why that would be
[12:55] <geirha> masterasia: wait, what do you mean "set it in bash_profile"? you updated the hash table manually?
[12:55] <masterasia> geirha, I added my folder to $PATH
[12:56] <masterasia> export PATH="~/applications/bin:$PATH"
[12:56] <masterasia> I would not know how to update the hash table manually
[12:57] <tomreyn> hi! systemd-analyze blame lists NetworkManager-wait-online.service with 9 seconds on this 16.04 system. is this to be expected?
[12:58] <tomreyn> it's an ethernet link with dchp configuration (via NM)
[12:58] <ppf> tomreyn: sounds reasonable
[12:58] <ppf> it's 7.5 for me
[12:58] <tomreyn> and for you, too, its the one single task sticking out?
[12:58] <ppf> yes, by a large margin
[12:59] <tomreyn> okay, thanks
[12:59] <tomreyn> i guess a static configuration would be much faster
[12:59] <tomreyn> but actually the boot process is pretty fast for me.
[13:00] <tomreyn> roughly 10 or 20 times faster than on the previous sytem ;)
[13:00] <edge226> Hello. I'm having an issue with jack+pulse audio. Someone @ pulseaudio told me that something was starting jackd but I see nothing in the startup files. Does anyone know what may be starting the jackd?
[13:02] <tomreyn> edge226: what do you mean by 'startup files'?
[13:02] <tomreyn> maybe try this: sudo grep -rIi jack /etc
[13:03] <scottjl> edge226: what version of ubuntu are you running? that's sort of important.
[13:03] <edge226> scottjl: 16.04
[13:03] <geirha> masterasia: Well, then at some point later, after running phantomjs at least once, you've modified PATH in that session, which is why "which" doesn't find it
[13:03] <scottjl> edge226: try "systemctl disable jackd && systemctl stop jackd"
[13:05] <edge226> scottjl: nothing.
[13:05] <scottjl> edge226: try tomreyn's suggestion for the find
[13:05] <scottjl> otherwise some process is kicking it off manually.
[13:05] <scottjl> you see jackd if you ps? who's the parent?
[13:07] <edge226> tomreyn: I think that gave me the piece of info I needed. I'll brb.
[13:12] <edge226> tomreyn: great I was able to find what was starting it and get things sorted. Thanks a lot :D
[13:13] <tomreyn> edge226: welcome
[13:15] <MustaKrakish> anyone have the bug where pulseaudio starts twice on boot?
[13:15] <MustaKrakish> one owned by user the other root?
[13:15] <x_> i use deepin endelles and remix os
[13:16]  * MustaKrakish like cream cheese
[13:16] <cfhowlett> not sopported here MustaKrakish
[13:16] <MustaKrakish> pulseaudio?
[13:16] <MustaKrakish> on ubuntu 16.04?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> not sopported here x
[13:16] <MustaKrakish> how is that NOT supported?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> sorry
[13:22] <tomreyn> MustaKrakish: just in case this wasn't clear, i think cf howlett did not mean to address *you* but the *x_* person when saying 'not supported here'. pulseaudio surely is part of ubuntu and thus supported (if run on ubuntu).
[13:22] <MustaKrakish> tomreyn, I gathered
[13:22] <tomreyn> ok ;)
[13:23] <MustaKrakish> now, any idea why pulseaudio would start twice?
[13:23] <MustaKrakish> I see it was a bug in previous versions back in 2014
[13:23] <tomreyn> i don't have any, no. you could provide more details, it might help people following the chat to help you.
[13:24] <tomreyn> such as your ubuntu release version, whether you upgraded it, whether you use any non-default APT archives and whether you have installed software from other sources.
[13:24] <MustaKrakish> tomreyn, well, as i stated previously. 2 PIDs for pulseaudio show up when doing a ps ef | grep pulseaudio. One owned by root, the other my user. Killing the one owned by root fixes the issue, but on reboot it's back again
[13:25] <tomreyn> also, if it worked in the past: describe what changed between when it worked and now.
[13:25] <MustaKrakish> tomreyn, it's all vanilla
[13:25] <tomreyn> vanilla what?
[13:25] <MustaKrakish> ubuntu 16.04
[13:25] <MustaKrakish> kernel 4.4.0-77
[13:25] <tomreyn> oh you said that, sorry
[13:25] <tomreyn> 16.04.2 i guess?
[13:26] <MustaKrakish> yes
[13:26] <tomreyn> hmm that's strange. are you starting X twice, too?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:26] <MustaKrakish> tomreyn, nope
[13:27] <tomreyn> and you're saying it was this way from the start, like from when you first installed ubuntu 16.04?
[13:27] <MustaKrakish> tomreyn, nope, only after a few updates did this come about. I actually purged pulseaudio and reinstalled it
[13:30] <tomreyn> i assume you did not do funny things such as this? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/271197/pulseaudio-run-as-root
[13:30] <MustaKrakish> tomreyn, nope
[13:31] <MustaKrakish> tomreyn, that's a pretty dumb thing to do...
[13:31] <MustaKrakish> I'm either root, or regular user...not both, unless I use sudo
[13:31] <tomreyn> indeed ;)
[13:32] <tomreyn> so i really dont know, sorry...
[13:32] <MustaKrakish> tomreyn, it's almost identical to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-plugins/+bug/1296425
[13:32] <MustaKrakish> So i would imagine the bug was fixed in later releases
[13:32] <MustaKrakish> 3 years later, it's back for me...
[13:34] <tomreyn> "[Regression Potential]: Low. " ;)
[13:34] <MustaKrakish> lol
[13:34] <tomreyn> it's probably a different issue, though
[13:35] <MustaKrakish> and I'm certainly not installing some dodgy driver from github
[13:45] <zap0> trying to upgrade and a dialog appears: "You have 1 broken pacakge, use 'broken' filter to locate it"
[13:46] <zap0> how do i di that?
[13:46] <zap0> do that/
[13:48] <alpha_> zap0: package manager -> edit -> software sources -> maintenance -> fix mergelist problem -> clear ...update
[13:50] <zap0> ok,  the "software updater" keeps interupting, and now wants to reboot.     it seems to be trapped in some type of loop
[13:51] <compdoc> I usuauly update by command line
[13:52] <zap0> i don't see a edit -> software sources.    could that be  Settings -> Repositories ?
[13:53] <zap0> found it... it's Settings -> Filters.
[13:54] <zap0> i think i applied the filter..  it's saying zero broken.    :(
[13:54] <Guest54037> hi i have this error -http://pasteboard.co/1rAgG0TF8.jpg , run live ubntu fsck /dev/sda1: clean, 1749546/7028736 files, 25566426/28084224 blocks
[13:55] <zap0> compdoc, is command line update fairly easy?
[13:56] <compdoc> zap0, pretty easy. and its always more up to date
[14:00] <wiehan_> #ubuntu
[14:00] <zap0> the updater app seems to be running again now.  it failed last time, does this mean it's going to try to download everything again?
[14:00] <wiehan_> I just formatted an SD card to ext4 with Gparted - no issue there. But now, even after mounting (unmounting / remounting) the drive, I can't copy anything to the drive.
[14:01] <compdoc> it shouldnt d/l everything. just the things that werent d/l before
[14:01] <zap0> ok
[14:02] <TruckinAlong> Hello all
[14:02] <wiehan_> Why would I not have write permissions to a drive I just formatted?
[14:04] <zap0> the 'do you want to upgrade' confirmation dialog is larger than the screen... i can't see any of the buttons... how do click them?
[14:04] <compdoc> try the command line. just open a term window
[14:04] <_val_> hey guys. On 14.04LTS I want to install the latest open-vm-tools. The latest I mean 10.x  Any hint?
[14:05] <zap0> why isn't the window re-sizeable?
[14:05] <compdoc> not everything is
[14:06] <compdoc> sounds like your screen resolution isnt optimal
[14:06] <zap0> it's a high as it goes
[14:08] <Sparrow__> Valfor, Have a system backup handy
[14:08] <Sparrow__> _val_,
[14:09] <Sparrow__> What is eol on that
[14:09] <_val_> Sparrow__: Linux ubuntu 4.4.0-31-generic #50~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 13 01:07:32 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:10] <_val_> This is a test system. Though I installed 9.4.x but this is not desired.
[14:10] <zap0> lol, the very first google result when i put in "do you want to upgrade"  is the bug.. from 2012.. still not fixed.
[14:11] <Sparrow__> !eol
[14:13] <_val_> Sparrow__: On 18 October 2013, it was announced that Ubuntu 14.04 would be dubbed "Trusty Tahr".[192][193]
[14:13] <RonaldJ> When I use mail from the shell it sends the mail like its from root@unknown. How can I change that?
[14:14] <_val_> root@ubuntu:~# lsb_release -c
[14:14] <_val_> Codename:	trusty
[14:14] <compdoc> RonaldJ, what did you install that sends mail?
[14:15] <tomreyn> _val_: 14.04 lts is still supported, but not your micro version of it
[14:15] <tomreyn> it looks like you dont install updates regularly
[14:15] <tomreyn> 14.04.1 is ooold,14.04.5 is current+
[14:15] <RonaldJ> compdoc it´s default Debian functionallity functionality.
[14:16] <_val_> tomreyn: let me have a look at that
[14:17] <compdoc> cant say about Debian, but I always have to install nullmailer
[14:17] <tomreyn> _val_: lsb_release -d
[14:18] <_val_> tomreyn: Description:Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[14:18] <_val_> I actually have the .5
[14:19] <tomreyn> _val_: but your kernel is almost a year old
[14:19] <tomreyn> maybe you just never rebooted
[14:19] <_val_> tomreyn: that's uhmm bit complicated.. I'm using packer and writing yml templates
[14:19] <_val_> "iso_url": "{{user `mirror`}}/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.5-server-amd64.iso",
[14:20] <tomreyn> _val_: i don't know what packer is and how it related to writing yml files, but if rebooting is complicated then you're doing something wrong
[14:20] <_val_> tomreyn: It's actually a brand new install
[14:21] <tomreyn> without updates?
[14:21] <_val_> just a sec, running upgrade
[14:21] <tomreyn> i have not checked but i'm pretty sure this kernel is outdated
[14:21] <_val_> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-31-generic
[14:21] <sh0t> hello guys: why is it that Xorg with lightdm is constantly using 85% of my cpu
[14:21] <sh0t> ?
[14:22] <tomreyn> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[14:27] <implite> how do i find my chat logs in hexchat?
[14:28] <implite> i want to read an old message but i cant see it
[14:28] <rizonz> how can I best debug a red screen in in preseed ?
[14:28] <Sparrow__> !logs
[14:28] <rfleming> implite, ~/.config/hexchat/logs/
[14:28] <implite> TY
[14:28] <implite> that was the answer i was looking for
[14:29] <Sparrow__> if it is not in personal log it is always online
[14:29] <rfleming> implite, they're by default sorted by <network>/<channel>.log
[14:29] <implite> I dont haev a folder called logs
[14:29] <implite> have*
[14:29] <implite> i have .config/hexchat but no logs
[14:30] <rfleming> implite, check your preferences under Settings->Preferences, Chatting->Logging
[14:30] <implite> Wooo i think i found it
[14:30] <implite> in scrollback folder
[14:30] <implite> then freenode
[14:31] <implite> lots of txt files here
[14:35] <implite> yeah i didnt have the option checked rfleming
[14:35] <pavlos> implite: there is an irc_logging = 0 flag in .config/hexchat/hexchat.conf (if 1 it saves logs, it 0 no logging)
[14:35] <implite> i just checked it now
[14:35] <implite> thanks!
[14:36] <implite> woo
[14:36] <implite> ill look there too
[14:37] <implite> in that file pavlos it is a configuration file
[14:37] <implite> i have it 1 now
[14:37] <implite> thanks!
[14:38] <implite> This is so much better than mirc chat stuff
[14:38] <implite> imo
[14:39] <implite> can you fileshare still with irc?
[14:39] <PipeItToDevNull> implite, Yes, but many people and channels disable DCC
[14:40] <implite> wow so cool
[14:40] <PipeItToDevNull> There are also fun commands, like you are running hexchat on a 4.4 kernel
[14:40] <implite> someone checking my version of chat or something?
[14:42] <ppf> using isc-dhcp v6 server, is it possible to automatically obtain the current prefix from the router, instead of statically configuring it?
[14:43] <rfleming> implite, well there's your problem :)
[14:43] <implite> it would be funny if you could tell me what specs my computer had
[14:44] <implite> with that command
[14:44] <rfleming> implite, I don't think your scrollback logs will go far enough
[14:44] <implite> rfleming: you are right
[14:44] <implite> i didnt have much in there
[14:44] <implite> but there was some old messages saved
[14:44] <implite> from other people
[14:45] <implite> wow so many quits
[14:45] <implite> crazy
[14:45] <implite> internet go down???
[14:45] <implite> Wow
[14:47] <implite> What is going on why so many quits and rejoins lol???
[14:48] <ppf> that's a netsplit
[14:49] <pavlos> implite: you can hide those joins/quits, right click on the channel tab, settings, hide
[14:50] <implite> pavlos: thank you ill try that
[14:50] <implite> Ahhhhhh much better
[14:50] <implite> lolol
[14:52] <ericnoan> there is something happening
[14:52] <implite> ?
[14:53] <ubuntu_> i have this problem - Assertion failed in _nih_error_raise_system  http://pasteboard.co/1rAgG0TF8.jpg im now in live ubuntu is possible to fix this chroot or somethink
[14:57] <rizonz> anyone preseeding 17.04 ? it cannot find the package puppet during finish but it can after it
[14:58] <tomreyn> ubuntu_: have you done a web search on this message?
[14:58] <ubuntu_> tomreyn:  yes this is simmilar error https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211952
[14:58] <ubuntu_> but dont found how to fix it from live
[14:58] <PipeItToDevNull> Jesus, my VPS took a dive
[14:59] <tomreyn> ubuntu_: which ubuntu version? fully patched?
[14:59] <ubuntu_> 14.04.1
[14:59] <ubuntu_> yes is updated
[15:00] <tomreyn> ubuntu_: 14.04.1 is very much outdated. 14.04.5 is supported only
[15:00] <tomreyn> ubuntu_: so update, and come back if it still happens
[15:00] <ubuntu_> hm mayby i have it  - i install updates but not 16.04 (have some problem with processor)
[15:01] <ubuntu_> how to update from live
[15:01] <ubuntu_> chroot ?
[15:01] <tomreyn> ubuntu_: if you'd install updates you'd be on 15.04.5 now
[15:01] <tomreyn> *14.04.5, sorry
[15:01] <tomreyn> you could update in a chroot, yes. or do it on the live system if it still boots fine
[15:05] <ubuntu_> i try install 15.04 but like i say - in thil compoter have some processor problem - freeze , so i still on 14.04 - but its lts - is supported
[15:07] <rizonz> can I simply do normal commands in the preseed console ?
[15:09] <tomreyn> ubuntu_: no no don't try 15.04, this was a typo. my point is that you are on an old ubuntu 14.04 sub-release (14.04.1). but i just checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases and it's actually supported until april 2019. so i was wrong there, sorry.
[15:09] <tomreyn> ubuntu_: which kernel version do you have though?
[15:09] <ubuntu_> but i cant update now - system is dead - i cant log to it, i need help to run it
[15:09] <ubuntu_> im on live system
[15:10] <ubuntu_> ok i must restart
[15:10] <tomreyn> i understand. so mount, dev, dev/pts, sys, proc and chroot it
[15:12] <fadavi> please someone help me to solve these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24498883/
[15:15] <tomreyn> fadavi: a web search for the first error message shows up this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/771899/pcie-bus-error-severity-corrected
[15:16] <tomreyn> actually that was a web search for "8086:a114" - the problematic pci device
[15:17] <promantia> asgffhsaf
[15:17] <tomreyn> promantia: are you looking for help with keyboard configuration then?
[15:17] <ubuntu_> cos zle robie - https://pastebin.com/U9C3beKB
[15:17] <fadavi> tomreyn: thank you. i'll try it now.
[15:19] <tomreyn> ubuntu_: are you working in a VM / container?
[15:20] <ubuntu_> no
[15:20] <ubuntu_> this is live
[15:20] <ubuntu_> ubuntu
[15:20] <ioria> ubuntu_, try to mount /run
[15:20] <tomreyn> well it could be a live VPS
[15:22] <tomreyn> anyway, without name resolution / networking you wont get to download updates
[15:22] <fadavi> tomreyn: thank you again. adding "pci=nomsi" works!
[15:22] <ubuntu_> ok i add nameserwers and now work
[15:23] <fadavi> now, journalctl output changes to: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24499034/
[15:23] <tomreyn> fadavi: :) great.
[15:25] <ubuntu_> now i have this http://paste.ubuntu.com/24499049/
[15:26] <ioria> ubuntu_, exit chroot and use this : for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[15:27] <tomreyn> and review your PPAs, since at least one of the no longer exists
[15:28] <tomreyn> and others may still exist but no longer get updates, making you sit on outdated versions
[15:28] <ioria> ubuntu_, precise 12.04 ppa
[15:29] <fadavi> tomreyn: can you help me again? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24499034/
[15:29] <tomreyn> fadavi: what do you need helk with?
[15:30] <tomreyn> *helP
[15:30] <amundsen> hi
[15:30] <fadavi> tomreyn: to solve my boot errors! now errors are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24499034/
[15:31] <mikeymop> fadavi: are you trying to pair witha bluetooth device before you rebooted
[15:32] <fadavi> mikeymop: no, i dont.
[15:33] <tomreyn> fadavi: which ubuntu version is this again? lsb_release -d
[15:33] <fadavi> tomreyn: 17.04
[15:34] <tomreyn> oh, i have no experience with this one.
[15:36] <promantia> :-$cxghdhd
[15:36] <tomreyn> if you care enough to work around the TPM initialization issue you could either disable it in your bios / uefi or you could blacklist the module
[15:37] <fadavi> tomreyn: whats TPM?
[15:37] <amundsen> i have a question about how ubuntu is built. in 17.04 for example, they choose packages from debian testing in this moment?
[15:38] <tomreyn> fadavi: "trusted platform module", a chip meant for restricting what can be done on a system.
[15:39] <fadavi> tomreyn: i think, cannot disable it in my BIOS settings.
[15:40] <nacc> amundsen: usually unstable
[15:40] <nacc> amundsen: and it depends on developers to do merges, etc.
[15:42] <wafflejock> amundsen, https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/4nk2at/opinion_debian_testing_vs_ubuntu/
[15:42] <amundsen> nacc, in regular releases (non lts) updates are only security issues or bug fixes are also uopdated ?
[15:43] <wafflejock> nacc, believe for the most part packages are only updated for security fixes typically versions aren't just bumped for new features that I've noticed/seen in the past
[15:43] <wafflejock> er sorry amundsen not naac
[15:43] <nacc> amundsen: all releases are treated the same, basically
[15:44] <nacc> amundsen: versions are rarely bumped once released
[15:44] <nacc> amundsen: and both bugfixes and security fixes are released
[15:44] <nacc> amundsen: for packages in main, ubuntu-security does the latter
[15:44] <nacc> amundsen: the former is done by people filing bug reports and people working on them
[15:44] <amundsen> thanks a lot
[15:44] <amundsen> ;)
[15:45] <fadavi> tomreyn: as i guessed, there's no Option called "TPM" in my BIOS settings. anyway, i disabled Secure Boot, before. Secure Boot != TPM?
[15:46] <tomreyn> fadavi: no, those are different mechanisms
[15:46] <fadavi> tomreyn: :(
[15:46] <tomreyn> fadavi: is there any actual problem caused by these logged messages or are you just trying to make the boot log look nice?
[15:50] <ovalseven8> When will Thunderbird update be available?
[15:50] <ovalseven8> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2017-13/
[15:50] <ovalseven8> Many critical vulnerabilities
[15:50] <ppf> ovalseven8: probably soonish?
[15:51] <fadavi> tomreyn: i've a couple of problems in Ubuntu with my new laptop (ASUS N552V-A). such as: (1) rebooting results a blank screen (2) can't boot the laptop, when switched to Intel graphics (3) Ubuntu boots too slow against Windoors! etc.
[15:51] <ovalseven8> ppf: 52.1 was released two days ago
[15:52] <fadavi> tomreyn: i thaught, fixing the boot procedure may be helpful
[15:52] <xangua> ovalseven8: Ubuntu uses the ESR release of thunderbird if that's what you ask
[15:52] <ppf> ovalseven8: yes, that version isn't likely to go into the repos right now
[15:52] <ppf> but the vulnerabilities have been fixed
[15:52] <ppf> https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3233-1/
[15:54] <ovalseven8> ppf: I guess that are different issues
[15:54] <RaptorJesus> PipeItToDevNull no I didn't
[15:54] <pavlos> fadavi: try booting with nomodeset ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/790145/16-04-dont-load-on-asus-n552vw
[15:54] <PipeItToDevNull> RaptorJesus, What did I do?
[15:54] <fadavi> pavlos: thanks, i'll try it now.
[15:55] <ppf> ovalseven8: you're right, that update is a couple of days old
[15:56] <ppf> it'll take the security team a few days to backport the fixes/receive the esr update
[16:02] <fadavi> pavlos: after adding "nomodeset", booted in low graphic mode, and also, cant login in lightdm; after i entered my password and hited Enter, laptop screen went blank and again went to lightdm login screen...
[16:03] <ppf> fadavi: check .xsession-errors or lightdm's own logs
[16:04] <fadavi> ppf: .xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24499235/
[16:06] <maret> hi everyone, Is there some way how to set ubuntu into some kind of saving mode, during night? I want to run my pc during the night for some process and I was hoping that turning off things like GUI might help with energy consumption
[16:06] <maret> Plan B is to install separate light distor for that
[16:07] <zap0> yesterday i was on 12.04..    3 or 4 upgrades later..  am i on the latest now, 17.04 zesty?
[16:07] <ppf> maret: turn of the monitor
[16:07] <ppf> zap0: cat /etc/*-release
[16:08] <fadavi> maret: if you dont need graphical interface, boot your PC to a TTY session at night.
[16:08] <ppf> but the powersaving will be minimal
[16:08] <zap0> maret, what ppf said + turn on your screen saver to blank.
[16:09] <maret> thanks for the tips would installing ubuntu server version help in any meaningful way?
[16:09] <nacc> zap0: `lsb_release -d` will tell you the release you are on
[16:09] <nacc> zap0: also, why did you go from an LTS to a non-LTS?
[16:09] <ppf> maret: actually, a lot of people could be interested in results. if you try this, make sure to run powermeasurements and report the results!
[16:09] <donofrio> anything like guilinks on ubuntu - http://links.twibright.com/features.php ?
[16:10] <tomreyn> maret: running ubuntu-server is pretty similar to switching the desktop to a tty session only. so no, not really.
[16:11] <tomreyn> maret: if you really want to save on power at night, switch off the main system and run some lighter (arm?) hardwar einstead.
[16:11] <ppf> donofrio: elinks?
[16:11] <kostkon> maret, even better, tell ubuntu to turn your monitor off. Ubuntu will probably refresh the gui much less frequently if it knows that there is not an active monitor to draw on
[16:12] <zap0> nacc how is going to a non-LTS detremental?
[16:12] <nacc> zap0: given that you only upgraded from 12.04 just now -- you need to upgrade every 9 months
[16:12] <fadavi> maret: use a RPi at night :D
[16:13] <nacc> zap0: also the upgrade process, unless you tell it to, won't let you go to a non-LTS from LTS
[16:13] <zap0> nacc, i didn't choose to stay/start at 12,  it was just what this hardware had installed.
[16:13] <maret> fadavi: heh problem is i need to use my SATA harddrives heh
[16:14] <maret> anyway a lot of good tips here! thanks a lot
[16:14] <ppf> zap0: flat reinstall might have saved you some time then :)
[16:14] <ppf> either way, if the upgrades worked, perfect!
[16:14] <zap0> maret, what kostkon said +  if it's a more modern (digital) monitor connection, and not dumb old VGA.. turning the monitor off would signal to the OS not to draw stuff
[16:15] <ppf> maret: nevertheless, the power you save by stuff like that is only a fraction of what the spinning disks consume
[16:16] <zap0> maret, use a ARM SBC!
[16:17] <platz> do i have to do something special to get ipv6+netowrkmanager working?  seems my setup is broken ootb
[16:18] <zap0> install a moonbeam collector (like a night-solar panel). and power it from that ;)
[16:18] <ppf> i have a network storage server at home. 50% of its idle power goes to the disks
[16:18] <ppf> platz: nothing special. what's broken?
[16:19] <platz> i was able to connect to wifi that supported ipv6 but apps could not resolve dns queries
[16:19] <platz> it seemed like i had an ipv6 addr though
[16:19] <ppf> paste the output of `ip addr`
[16:20] <zap0> if it's using ipv6, would not the DNS also need to be ipv6 ?
[16:20] <ppf> yes
[16:20] <platz> ah, i'm not at the wifi location anymore.  i'll have to debug it when i go back to that cafe
[16:20] <ppf> you can see that in the nm-applet's Connection Info
[16:20] <ppf> and check dmesg for Duplicate Address fails
[16:21] <platz> will do, thanks
[16:21] <ppf> platz: pretty tricky for us to help debug it then ;)
[16:21] <platz> yeah, i asked then too but no responses then ;) just a sanity check if was missing a pkg
[16:21] <platz> will try again in several days
[16:28] <transhuman> hi for yakety where is libqt4*? do they exist? is there an alternative?
[16:29] <kazuma_desu> hi
[16:29] <kazuma_desu> i replaced archlinux on my pc with ubuntu 16.04
[16:30] <ppf> good choice!
[16:30] <kostkon> transhuman, it's all there i pressume http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libqt4&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all
[16:30] <ppf> !info libqt4 yakkety
[16:31] <ppf> !info libqt4* yakkety
[16:31] <ppf> looks like i can't ubottu today
[16:32] <transhuman> kostkon sorry to be specific libqt4-core  libqt4-gui
[16:32] <zap0> how would i get my laptop's touchpad/mouse  to work?     i USB mouse works fine, but not the built in touchpad
[16:32] <ppf> transhuman: they don't exist anymore
[16:33] <BluesKaj> ppf, it's the * that doesn't get parsed
[16:33] <ppf> they where only dummies
[16:33] <ppf> !info libqtgui4
[16:33] <ppf> BluesKaj: yea, i figured :)
[16:34] <BluesKaj> I know that from personal experience :-)
[16:36] <zhanx> is there away to disable the hotkeys on my laptop? the reverse is glitching alot on me
[16:37] <EriC^^> zhanx: xev & xmodmap can help with that
[16:38] <zap0> what simple app can i use to test the laptop webcam?
[16:38] <EriC^^> zap0: cheese
[16:38] <_Gold_Wolf_> hi
[16:40] <ducasse> EriC^^: xmodmap is deprecated and should not be used, been replaced by setxkbmap and xkbcomp
[16:40] <zap0> me installs cheese
[16:41] <zhanx> ducasse: still put me on the right path and its fixed now, thanks EriC^^
[16:42] <u0_a112> waddup
[16:42] <ducasse> zhanx: just a note, as it can yield unexpected results :)
[16:43] <EriC^^> ducasse: ah thank you
[16:43] <EriC^^> zhanx: np :)
[16:45] <zhanx> ducasse: basically I never remap my keyboards and the xmodmap failing due to deprecated got me the right search term to find the settings for it
[16:45] <zap0> EriC^^, works good!  thank you.
[16:46] <EriC^^> zap0: great, no problem
[16:47] <maddawg> s
[16:52] <pavlos> fadavi: are you booting 17.04? I cannot find any solution online
[16:52] <fadavi> pavlos: yes
[16:53] <transhuman> what packages does libqt4-core and libqt4-gui install (I am trying to patch a script
[16:55] <ducasse> transhuman: it's actually 'libqtgui4'. the -core package does not exist in yakkety afaict
[16:56] <pavlos> fadavi: can you try a 16.04 live just to test? I have not played with 17.04
[16:58] <drpresident> does anyone know why install broadcom-sta-dkms woul causes freezing at the login screen?
[16:59] <drpresident> ubuntu 16.04
[16:59] <BluesKaj> drpresident, how do you know it's broadcom-sta-dkms?
[17:00] <drpresident> because I installed ubuntu and it boots, install only broadcom and it freezes
[17:00] <drpresident> then when I uninstalled it it works again
[17:01] <Sparrow__> !broadcom
[17:02] <rfleming> Grettings everyone!  I can't seem to get Ubuntu-GNOME to turn the displays off when the screen locks.  I'm using 17.04 with nvidia-375... and have two displays daisy-chained to a GeForce GTX 750 Ti (GM107) via DisplayPort 1.2
[17:02] <rfleming> works fine with Nouveau though
[17:02] <rfleming> anyone with ideas?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> drpresident, perhaps it's the wrong driver, which bcm chip does lspci show?
[17:04] <Sparrow__> Did you get it from here   http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=broadcom-sta-dkms
[17:04] <drpresident> Sparrow__: no I installed with apt-get
[17:05] <drpresident> im gonna try this bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:05] <drpresident> see if that makes a difference
[17:05] <soop> rflemming: https://askubuntu.com/questions/109487/access-more-options-via-gnome-power-manager
[17:11] <drpresident> so that worked
[17:11] <transhuman> thanks ducasse kostkon ppf
[17:16] <Sparrow__> Great
[17:20] <Adnol> Hello!
[17:39] <vlt> Hello. How can I trigger that what happens when I plug in a USB drive with a file system from the command line? How to mount it to /media/$USER/$LABEL?
[17:40] <EriC^^> !udev | vlt
[17:40] <EriC^^> vlt: you can use udev to run a command when it gets plugged i
[17:40] <EriC^^> *in
[17:42] <vlt> EriC^^: I don’t want to run it when it’s plugged in. It was already plugged in but with a different user currently "active" (on X). Now I sudo umounted it from /media/guest...  But how can I trigger exactly what would have happened if I myself had been the "active" user?
[17:43] <Cece> hi everyone
[17:43] <Guest9247> okay hi
[17:43] <kostkon> Guest9247, hi
[17:44] <EriC^^> vlt: gvfs-mount -d /dev/sdxY
[17:44] <Guest9247> how are you doing
[17:44] <Guest9247> hello
[17:45] <Guest9247> how are you doing?
[17:45] <nacc> Guest9247: this is the ubuntu support channel, not for general chitchat
[17:46] <Guest9247> for me it is a general chitchat
[17:47] <vlt> EriC^^: Thanks.
[17:47] <EriC^^> vlt: no problem
[17:50] <vlt> EriC^^: Yes, problem :-D   That command seems to hang.
[17:51] <EriC^^> vlt: is it unmounted? you replaced xY with the disk and partition right?
[17:51] <vlt> EriC^^: Nothing in dmesg, nothing suspicious in top.
[17:52] <vlt> EriC^^: Yes, unmounted. And I used /dev/sda1 which blkid listed as my fs.
[17:53] <EriC^^> try "strace -p $(pgrep gvfs-mount)" in another terminal
[17:55] <vlt> EriC^^: strace: attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): Operation not permitted
[17:55] <vlt> EriC^^: I’m the very same user and there’s only one gvfs-mount proc
[17:55] <dertysuoth> Hi i am new to ubuntu and i recently installaed ubuntu server 17.04 on one of my machines and i have been attempting to get it to connect via its wifi dongle and i havnt been able to get the donlge to work. Would anyone be able to help yme figure this out ?
[17:56] <vlt> EriC^^: dmesg lists my attempts to strace: ptrace of pid 6804 was attempted by: strace (pid 6838)
[17:58] <dertysuoth> Hi i am new to ubuntu and i recently installaed ubuntu server 17.04 on one of my machines and i have been attempting to get it to connect via its wifi dongle and i havnt been able to get the donlge to work. Would anyone be able to help yme figure this out ?
[17:59] <EriC^^> vlt: try with sudo
[18:08] <chris0000> c
[18:09] <dertysuoth> Hi i am new to ubuntu and i recently installaed ubuntu server 17.04 on one of my machines and i have been attempting to get it to connect via its wifi dongle and i havnt been able to get the donlge to work. Would anyone be able to help yme figure this out ?
[18:14] <mikeymop> dertysuoth: first step would be to idenfity the wireless chipset used
[18:14] <mikeymop> because it is usb i believe you would see under lsusb
[18:15] <dertysuoth> i rand that and it pulled it back up with a list of devices
[18:15] <dertysuoth> asustek computer inc is my dongle
[18:15] <mikeymop> needmore
[18:15] <mikeymop> can you
[18:15] <Guest22565> guten abend ich möchte eine vpn verbindung herstellen und habe dafür den openvpn installiert . wir benutzen bei der arbeit den cisco vpn und da ich neu bei linux bin
[18:15] <mikeymop> lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:15] <mikeymop> give us the link
[18:16] <dertysuoth> its saying the name or service is not known
[18:16] <dertysuoth> when i type that in
[18:17] <dertysuoth> the machine itself isnt connected to internet or else i wouldnt be able to talk on here
[18:23] <elky> chris0000: did you need help?
[18:25] <qwerkus> Hello. Latest LTS kernel update (to 4.4.0-77) freezes my keyboard upon boot + shows a lower resolution. Does anyone know about this issue ?
[18:26] <elky> qwerkus: are you able to make a liveusb and test if it works on that?
[18:26] <mikeymop> dertysuoth: try opening additional drivers
[18:26] <mikeymop> nvm
[18:26] <tarzeau> qwerkus: do you have the kernel extra package?
[18:27] <qwerkus> nope. 4.4..0-77 also crashes on live usb. I'm currently running x.0.75 kernel, which is humming fine
[18:27] <jackmcbarn> why does http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ not have a 4.11 build? every prior build has been up within a day of release
[18:27] <qwerkus> tarzeau. NO - good input. Fixing already
[18:28] <tarzeau> qwerkus: also made me go mad!
[18:28] <qwerkus> rebooting.. while crossing fingers.
[18:30] <ubuntu-mate> help please
[18:30] <qwerkus> nah. Still no working
[18:31] <BluesKaj> ubuntu-mate, just ak your question
[18:31] <BluesKaj> ask
[18:31] <qwerkus> kernel extra packages fixed the keyboard issue, but now I run into a black screen of death. Probably a graphic card related problem. God I hate those...
[18:31] <ubuntu-mate> I shut -off and my ubuntu mate does not work
[18:32] <dertysuoth> mikeymop: hey i made it back into the channel if you are still able to help
[18:32] <elky> qwerkus: what graphics card?
[18:33] <qwerkus> nvidia gtx 1060. Weired things is: it works flawlessay with kernel 4.4.0-75. And when booting 4.4.0-77: bam - black screen!
[18:36] <EduCatOR> hello Ubuntu! Anyone able to possibly help me with the resize2fs command??
[18:36] <EduCatOR> i need education!
[18:38] <qwerkus> EduCatOR: google "resize2fs example howto"
[18:38] <qwerkus> fastest way to learn: examples
[18:39] <dertysuoth> hi i am new to ubuntu server and i am trying to get my wifi dongle to work and cant get it ot connect
[18:39] <qwerkus> dertysuoth: what model is it? Do you know if I is supposed to work under linux ?
[18:39] <dertysuoth> i have had it working on ubuntu 16.04 ubuntu mate
[18:40] <dertysuoth> i jsut cant figure it out with server
[18:40] <EduCatOR> qwerkus i have been looking at examples but i just dont get it
[18:40] <EduCatOR> i feel pretty dumb lol
[18:42] <dertysuoth> qwerkus: i also finished reading te question in its entiretac1900 USB AC68 y its an asus
[18:42] <qwerkus> dertysuoth: AFAIK networ applet is missing on ubuntu server, which means you have to setup the dongle manually with iwconfig
[18:42] <dertysuoth> qwerkus: so how would i go about doing that ?
[18:44] <qwerkus> simple tutorial: https://linuxconfig.org/setup-wireless-interface-with-wpa-and-wpa2-on-ubuntu
[18:44] <dertysuoth> i will look through this thanks
[18:44] <qwerkus> EduCatOR: you can always use the gui from gparted to help you out :)
[18:45] <EduCatOR> im not sure what that means :) but i will take a look
[18:45] <EduCatOR> it is a VM on a xen server
[18:54] <MaxiReglisse> #georchestra-psc
[18:54] <roothorick> Is there a way to get a newer Xorg intel driver on 16.04 other than xorg-edgers?
[18:55] <Doow_> Hi, I'm having some trouble getting cuda/render device gpu working under ubuntu (for blender of course) I'm using nvidias proprierty drivers and I've tried following the guide here: https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/7485/enabling-gpu-rendering-for-cycles but no gpu/cuda option shows up in user preferences
[18:55] <kostkon> roothorick, when did you install 16.04?
[18:56] <roothorick> oh goodness
[18:57] <ducasse> !hwe | roothorick
[18:57] <kostkon> roothorick, or let me rephrase, which iso did you use, 16.04, 16.04.1 or 16.04.2?
[18:57] <dertysuoth> hi i am new to ubuntu server and i am trying to get my wifi dongle to work and cant get it ot connect
[18:57] <roothorick> the only Intel-related HWE has a note about not using it on new enough hardware
[18:58] <roothorick> this is an Ivybridge i5 so it's new enough
[18:59] <roothorick> what driver do I want to be using with an i5 then?
[18:59] <belgianguy> hello, I'd like to run Ubuntu on my Aourus Ryzen system, but my installer keeps throwing "irq vector 07" errors, is this related to the kernel or is this related to the BIOS?
[19:00] <hplc> trying to understand ufw "applications" part, how is it meant to work?, ufw app list shows merely "CUPS"
[19:00] <dertysuoth> hi i am new to ubuntu and on one of my machines me and my brother are trying to set up the wifi dongle on it. We are using ubuntu server on this particular machine and cannot seem to get it to connect to the internet even though the dongles driver is installed and its being read by the computer
[19:00] <hplc> isnt the list supposed to contain every installed application?
[19:01] <ducasse> roothorick: i've used the hwe stack for xenial on later models than that without problems
[19:03] <roothorick> I removed xserver-xorg-video-intel, looks like X is now using a "modeset" driver, and I still have hardware GL
[19:04] <roothorick> and that may have actually fixed my problem
[19:04] <dertysuoth> hi i am new to ubuntu and on one of my machines me and my brother are trying to set up the wifi dongle on it. We are using ubuntu server on this particular machine and cannot seem to get it to connect to the internet even though the dongles driver is installed and its being read by the computer
[19:05] <Torgeir> How can i make Ubuntu Mate more touchfriendly?
[19:05] <leolegato> .
[19:05] <leolegato> anyone here?
[19:06] <ioria> belgianguy, you know how to set a kernel boot parameter ?
[19:06] <belgianguy> ioria, yes, but I've heard mixed reports about turning off acpi
[19:06] <ioria> belgianguy, i see, try  modprobe.blacklist=pinctrl-amd
[19:06] <roothorick> I am, or at least was, having an issue where some games, quitting and starting a second time would crash gnome-shell, which would try to restart and crash again, dropping me to the gdm login. After logging in again, trying to launch the game would still crash gnome-shell
[19:06] <belgianguy> (if that's the one you're alluding to) :)
[19:07] <ioria> belgianguy, nope, this :  modprobe.blacklist=pinctrl-amd
[19:07] <belgianguy> ioria, ahh, that is new information,
[19:08] <leolegato> belgianguy, do you know how to use playonlinux?
[19:08] <dertysuoth> hi i am new to ubuntu and on one of my machines me and my brother are trying to set up the wifi dongle on it. We are using ubuntu server on this particular machine and cannot seem to get it to connect to the internet even though the dongles driver is installed and its being read by the computer
[19:08] <ducasse> !patience | dertysuoth
[19:08] <belgianguy> leolegato, err, I usually use WINE
[19:09] <belgianguy> (and try to avoid it when there's a native version)
[19:09] <dertysuoth> sorry bout that
[19:09] <mas_> hello
[19:10] <Sparrow__> how did you install the dongle driver
[19:10] <ioria> dertysuoth, if is server, you have a /etc/network/interface  set .... so run 'ip a' get the dongle interface name, and create an entry in /etc/network/interface
[19:12] <dertysuoth> Sparrow__: my brother is about to tell you how he did it
[19:12] <dertysuoth> Sparrow__:  hes in her e
[19:13] <bumblefuzz> he used: git clone -b driver-4.3.21 https://github.com/diederikdehaas/rtl8814AU.git
[19:13] <bumblefuzz> make and install
[19:14] <Sparrow__> Sorry cant help you untangle that
[19:15] <dertysuoth> Sparrow__:  thanks for looking anyways
[19:15] <mas_> can u see me?
[19:15] <Sparrow__> does lsusb even show it?
[19:15] <dertysuoth> Sparrow__:  ya it does
[19:16] <Sparrow__> good luck, not my area
[19:20] <tapanik> i have ubuntu 16.04,  is this ok
[19:20] <tapanik> one month using
[19:21] <tapanik> i have some audio issues
[19:21] <dertysuoth> Sparrow__:  thanks anyways
[19:21] <tapanik> logiteh 2.0 speakers bluetooth
[19:21] <tapanik> 3,5" jack works
[19:22] <tapanik> but sound gooes off when listen music
[19:22] <tapanik> plug off and plug in works again
[19:23] <mikeymop> did you switch your audio source after connecting bt speakers
[19:23] <tapanik> anybodu audio problems
[19:23] <tapanik> yes, i did
[19:23] <tapanik> analog
[19:23] <tapanik> pulseaudio
[19:23] <sascha_> hi
[19:23] <dertysuoth> mikeymop: hey i got termbin to work now btw
[19:24] <tapanik> c64, amiga pc mdos/win ows
[19:24] <tapanik> now linux era
[19:24] <mikeymop> dertysuoth: oh you got online?
[19:24] <dertysuoth> mikeymop: i plugged hard wire in i still need the dongle to wokr
[19:24] <dertysuoth> work
[19:24] <tapanik> can cable be broken
[19:24] <tapanik> it' new
[19:24] <tapanik> logiteht
[19:25] <tapanik> i have heard headset errors
[19:25] <capum321> hello
[19:25] <tapanik> ubuntu
[19:25] <capum321> what one should consider use, between dpkg and gdebi ?
[19:25] <tapanik> ilike  unity
[19:25] <tapanik> i have gnome too
[19:26] <robotti^> capum321: both works very well
[19:27] <yaqub> unity here
[19:27] <tapanik> sometimes no audio errors, like today many errors
[19:27] <tapanik> por sound if turn on bluetooth
[19:27] <tapanik> i use jack
[19:28] <tapanik> windows7 bluetooth was ok to speakerrs
[19:28] <amirite> is the md5 of binary files supposed to change when i create a debian package containing them?
[19:29] <tapanik> ubuntu is faster and more trusted than windos 7
[19:29] <tapanik> ubuntu 16.04
[19:29] <tapanik> 16gig ram
[19:29] <amirite> tapanik thats old news
[19:29] <amirite> answer my question before i hit you
[19:29] <tapanik> hit my ass
[19:29] <tapanik> please
[19:29] <tapanik> but sound is problem
[19:30] <wiggmpk> I upgraded from 16.04.2 to 17.04 and now I can't type a tilde in the terminal. What would cause this? How can I fix it? 'dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' without success
[19:30] <amirite> no, unless you are female and offer yourself to me in marriage
[19:30] <tapanik> ubuntu and bluetooh
[19:30] <dertysuoth> mikeymop: did you want me to still try to send the info
[19:30] <tapanik> im from finland
[19:30] <tapanik> linus
[19:30] <amirite> does that mean you are female and offer yourself to me in marriage
[19:30] <amirite> i will take you as my second wife
[19:31] <tapanik> ubuuntu 16.04 is best form ubuntu family
[19:31] <tapanik> from
[19:31] <amirite> you speak too much tapanik
[19:32] <amirite> please, someone besides tapanik speak
[19:32] <tapanik> i admit
[19:32] <dertysuoth> hi i am new to ubuntu and on one of my machines me and my brother are trying to set up the wifi dongle on it. We are using ubuntu server on this particular machine and cannot seem to get it
[19:33] <Southern_Gentlem> dertysuoth, what chipset is that dongle using
[19:33] <dertysuoth> how would i tell u ?
[19:33] <belgianguy> ioria, the IRQ vector 07 errors is still there
[19:33] <dertysuoth> Southern_Gentlem:  ? sorry i am ne w
[19:33] <belgianguy> so I guess I'll have to wait for a newer kernel to install then?
[19:34] <statusfailed> Is there a way I can install ld 2.26 via apt on Ubuntu 16.10 ?
[19:34] <ioria> belgianguy, 17.04 ?
[19:34] <amirite> can someone link me to a very quick tutorial or walkthrough for creating debian packages
[19:34] <statusfailed> I'm having problems with 2.27
[19:34] <belgianguy> ioria, yes
[19:34] <Southern_Gentlem> dertysuoth, google and find out what chipset that dongle uses
[19:34] <ioria> belgianguy, i heard of a custom build kernel fot that hw
[19:34] <dertysuoth> kk
[19:34] <statusfailed> amirite: if you need a package in a hurry, check out fpm - it won't help you build them from scratch though
[19:35] <amirite> i dont need a package in a hurry
[19:35] <statusfailed> ah, sorry then!
[19:35] <amirite> i need to debug why this dpkg plugin i'm using is packaging files with a different md5
[19:35] <dertysuoth> Southern_Gentlem: https://github.com/diederikdehaas/rtl8814AU.git
[19:35] <belgianguy> ioria, yeah, 1.10-3 or something
[19:35] <amirite> if the cause is the plugin or if the cause is intrinsic to the debian package build tools
[19:35] <dertysuoth> what ever chipset this driver uses
[19:35] <belgianguy> 4.10-3* ioria
[19:35] <dertysuoth> im still checking online too
[19:35] <ducasse> statusfailed: upgrade to 17.04? there's only a month or so left of support for 16.10 anyway
[19:36] <statusfailed> ducasse: what's the ld version?
[19:36] <statusfailed> wait I can google that
[19:36] <ducasse> statusfailed: 2.28
[19:36] <statusfailed> heh, thanks
[19:36] <statusfailed> might as well upgrade then !
[19:37] <ioria> belgianguy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1671360
[19:37] <ducasse> statusfailed: you should do so pretty soon anyway, so probably :)
[19:37] <belgianguy> ioria, yeah, that's what I'm experiencing
[19:38] <belgianguy> it's a clean system so I could give it a whirl
[19:38] <dertysuoth> Southern_Gentlem:  RTL8814AU
[19:38] <dertysuoth> thats the chipset
[19:39] <statusfailed> ducasse: downloading as we speak :)
[19:43] <transhuman> hi! Is there  a way around this problem  unsupported GNU version! gcc versions later than 4.9 are not supported! Can I rollback gcc to an earlier version ? this is onl yackety
[19:43] <yaqub> Ubuntu doesnt work on Ryzen? WTF AMD...
[19:44] <faugusztin> yaqub: it does
[19:44] <faugusztin> yaqub: but you need to install mainline kernel 4.11-rc
[19:44] <yaqub>             system doesnt boot on am4? ~~~~ ahh oh okay
[19:44] <faugusztin> yaqub: right now it means http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.11-rc8/
[19:44] <yaqub> got it
[19:45] <faugusztin> yaqub: boot certainly works. it is just not really stable, it crashes in 1-2 hours. enough time to install minimum system and install the 4,11 kernel
[19:45] <ioria> belgianguy,    try :   pinctrl-amd.blacklist=yes
[19:45] <Alex-Zastenkin> l
[19:46] <faugusztin> yaqub: right now i have uptime of 6 days after i upgraded my UEFI version last week
[19:46] <belgianguy> Aourus motherboards still have an issue though
[19:46] <belgianguy> even with latest BIOS (F3)
[19:46] <yaqub> youre on ryzen?
[19:46] <Alex-Zastenkin> Hi everione.)
[19:46] <faugusztin> yaqub: my ASUS PRIME X370 PRO lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500524/ as an example
[19:47] <belgianguy> (see the link ioria posted higher)
[19:47] <faugusztin> (still find it hilarious that he PCI ID's are not identified yet)
[19:47] <yaqub> i plan to make the move, just waiting to see what happens with vega so i can do it all at once
[19:47] <Alex-Zastenkin> Is someone from Russia?
[19:47] <belgianguy> ioria, I'll go try that now :)
[19:47] <faugusztin> belgianguy: don't call them Aourus. Call them by their real name - Gigabyte
[19:48] <yaqub> faugusztin: lol
[19:48] <yaqub> idk why they would make a move to a new name, gigabyte is plenty well known and they make perfectly okay products
[19:48] <yaqub> it isnt like they have a bad wrap or something
[19:49] <faugusztin> yaqub: it is a branding, not manufacturer name
[19:49] <yaqub> i know that
[19:49] <faugusztin> yaqub: it is like if ASUS made Strix more prominent as name
[19:49] <yaqub> i know what it is
[19:49] <amirite> yaqub
[19:49] <amirite> men ayna ant
[19:49] <yaqub> i meant a new name for their "premium" line or whatever the fuck theyre marketing it as its stupid
[19:50] <yaqub> amirite, yes
[19:50] <yaqub> ?
[19:50] <amirite> waynak
[19:50] <amirite> faynak
[19:50] <amirite> anta yahoodie?
[19:51] <yaqub> anta yahoodie? wtf man chill
[19:51] <yaqub> usa
[19:51] <amirite> you have a potty mouth
[19:51] <amirite> it's full of potty
[19:51]  * amirite washes out yaqub's potty mouth
[19:52] <yaqub> okay, i used a cuss word and you just said kill all the jews
[19:52] <amirite> o_O
[19:52] <yaqub> o_0
[19:52] <amirite> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[19:52] <amirite> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[19:54] <yaqub> ayn ant?
[19:54] <amirite> ana fe teezak
[19:54] <pennTeller> Hi guys! Has anybody heard about doing GPU passthrough to a virtual machine with the latest kernel?
[19:54] <tubal> Hello. Does anyone else notice Dashgetting laggy? Just now, I waited ~8 or 9 seconds for a response to Super + A. Is there any remedy? Maybe some cache that can be emptied?
[19:54] <tomreyn> faugusztin: i found with that an updated bios even 4.8 works
[19:55] <faugusztin> tomreyn: not sure i want to play around with it
[19:55] <yaqub> amirite: i have a potty mouth?
[19:55] <faugusztin> tomreyn: i had enough of crashes after 2-6 hours with pre-4.11 kernels
[19:56] <tomreyn> i'm pretty sure i'm happy to ;)
[19:56] <yaqub> ana fe teezak
[19:56] <faugusztin> tomreyn: with 4.11-rc1 and newer i had 22 day, 8 day and 6 day uptime so far
[19:56] <yaqub> in'al yomak
[19:56] <faugusztin> (and reboots were only due hardware changes or bios updates)
[19:56] <amirite> what does in'al mean
[19:56] <tomreyn> yaqub, amirite: please cut it out, both of you.
[19:56] <tomreyn> this does not belong on this channel
[19:56] <amirite> tomreyn you're just jealous
[19:56] <amirite> because we have mad skillz and you don't
[19:57] <tomreyn> stop
[19:57] <amirite> no u
[19:57] <yaqub> in'al yomak, i said curse the day you were born
[19:57] <yaqub> and okay np tomreyn
[19:57] <amirite> yaqub is a naughty boy
[19:57] <yaqub> yaqub is leaving have a good day guys
[19:58] <amirite> bye i luv u
[19:58] <tomreyn> faugusztin: glad to hear this!
[19:59] <tomreyn> i'll stick to the hwe-edge kernel for now, currently .10, works for me.
[20:00] <tomreyn> pennTeller: is this your actual question, whether someone heard about doing it?
[20:00] <dertysuoth> hi i am new to ubuntu and on one of my machines me and my brother are trying to set up the wifi dongle on it. We are using ubuntu server on this particular machine and cannot seem to get it
[20:01] <BigMao> Hi everyone, I have a question about keyboard shortcuts - I currently have two input methods set up (English and Pinyin) and a hotkey to switch between them (Ctrl-Space).  However, Ctrl-Space is also what I use in Emacs to set the mark for text selections, and I never type Chinese in Emacs or in the terminal.  How do I make sure Ctrl-Space is not used to switch the input language in Emacs or the terminal??
[20:01] <amirite> tomreyn thats enough foul speak out of your mouth
[20:01] <amirite> please clean up your language or feel free to leave
[20:01] <tomreyn> !ops amirite
[20:01] <amirite> !ops tomreyn
[20:02] <tuck> dertysuoth: it will be dancing with dongle...
[20:03] <dertysuoth> does anyone know how to install gnome onto ubuntu server 17.04
[20:03] <dertysuoth> ?
[20:04] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: do you intend to make your ubuntu-server a desktop system then?
[20:05] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: ya we are trying to set it up for gpu mining and we heard its best to set it up as a server
[20:06] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: the times when gpu mining bitcoins (i assume) with commodity hardware were of any use are long over.
[20:07] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: we are mining altcoins
[20:07] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: rather trying to learn how to do so
[20:07] <tomreyn> ah i don't know then. so what you said before seems contradictory. you plan to install a gui now but at the same time you say you think it makes more sense not to?
[20:08] <BigMao> Fixed! I just reconfigured the keyboard shortcut. Thanks
[20:08] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: the only thing we cant get to work is the wifi dongle
[20:09] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: so you'd actually prefer to keep it gui-less if the wifi dongle can be made to work, right?
[20:09] <pennTeller> tomreyn: lol, no that is not my actual question.
[20:09] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: we have tried, we have installed its drivers and everythign and the computer even reads it. but no connections
[20:09] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: ye s
[20:09] <tomreyn> pennTeller: then ask it ;)
[20:10] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: do you know how to ge the wifi dongle to work cus i have asked a couple times some people tried to help but disappeared
[20:10] <pennTeller> tomreyn: Can anybody point me in the right direction to get GPU passthrough working in a virtual machine in ubuntu 16.04?
[20:10] <tomreyn> pennTeller: it's usually preferred here over polls, and more likely to get you an on topic reply.
[20:10] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: which chipset is it?
[20:10] <pennTeller> Can anybody point me in the right direction to get GPU passthrough working in a virtual machine in ubuntu 16.04?
[20:10] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: i assume "wifi dongle" refers to a usb connected wireless NIC?
[20:10] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: RTL8814AU
[20:11] <dertysuoth> yes
[20:11] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: you said drivers are installed, did you install them or were they already working?
[20:11] <dertysuoth> my brother installed them
[20:11] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: i can link you to what he did
[20:11] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: how?
[20:11] <tomreyn> please do
[20:12] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: https://github.com/diederikdehaas/rtl8814AU.git
[20:12] <amirite> will an op please can tomreyn?
[20:12] <amirite> he is using foul language
[20:12] <tomreyn> amirite: you should proove that if you make such claims
[20:13] <amirite> just scroll up
[20:13] <amirite> you said "dongle"
[20:13] <syl> hi all --- is there an online site which shows the number/names of ubuntu/canonical snap packages which currently exist?  Thanks! Ben
[20:14] <tomreyn> amirite: i wont spend more time on you. find another way to waste your own.
[20:14] <ducasse> syl: uappexplorer.com can give you a searchable list
[20:14] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: do you need any more info ?
[20:15] <syl> oh yes i see that is really cool - Thanks ducasse :-)
[20:15] <syl> 873 sbaos at current
[20:15] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: i need to look a couple things up, please stand by. also how did you try to set up the connection?
[20:15] <syl> snaps
[20:15] <syl> :-)
[20:16] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: sorry i dont understand what you mean?
[20:16] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: does iwconfig list the wireless interface?
[20:16] <tomreyn> 'iwconfig'
[20:17] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: yes it shows the wlx and the device name but it says acces point is not associates
[20:17] <dertysuoth> associated
[20:18] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: install sm-cli then to configure and manage the interface and connect it to an access point
[20:18] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: hey im moderatley new how do i do tat
[20:18] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: that
[20:18] <amirite> dertysuoth: please do not talk to tomreyn
[20:18] <amirite> we must boycott his potty mouth
[20:18] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: use "iwlist <devicename> scanning" to list access points it could associate to.
[20:19] <faugusztin> tomreyn: didn't you mean nm-cli ?
[20:19] <tomreyn> faugusztin: indeed, thank you, this was a typo
[20:19] <amirite> faugusztin: tomreyn is a bad man
[20:20] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: so ya it pulled alot of stuff up
[20:20] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: i take it cells are what you wnat
[20:20] <dertysuoth> want
[20:20] <belgianguy> argh, I got into my grub settings once
[20:20] <belgianguy> and now it seems to always boot Ubuntu, I've been holding LShift for minutes
[20:21] <faugusztin> dertysuoth: it is fedora help page, but command is same : https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Connecting_to_a_Network_Using_nmcli.html
[20:21] <belgianguy> and still it gets to the loading sreen with the 5 dots
[20:21] <faugusztin> dertysuoth: see the section called Adding a Wi-Fi Connection
[20:21] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: ao "nm-cli" is what you want to install to manage and configure the wireless interface. not "sm-cli" - i had a typo there.
[20:21] <belgianguy> are there any other ways to get into grub menu ?
[20:21] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: i will do that i just dont know how to install it
[20:22] <faugusztin> belgianguy: have you tried arrow keys (up/down) ?
[20:22] <faugusztin> dertysuoth: isn't it installed by default ?
[20:22] <belgianguy> faugusztin, not yet, I'll go and try those
[20:22] <faugusztin> dertysuoth: i see nmcli on my minimalistic server install without gui\
[20:23] <tomreyn> belgianguy: holding down left shift should work normally, mabye check for caps lock. also you can ensure that the menu will show by editing /etc/default/grub and changing whether it's hidden or its timeout.
[20:24] <tykayn> hi folks
[20:24] <sfdebug> Hi, i'm trying to connect to a RDP Windows server, but, my Remina isn't working, i think it's because this line on the .rdp file: LoadBalanceInfo:s:Cookie: mstshash=SFBeta#SFBeta_IN_0
[20:24] <sfdebug> Does anyone know how can i solve that?
[20:24] <tykayn> if you have any plan to diagnostic a failure at wakeup in ubuntu, mine freezes every time I want to wake it up
[20:24] <tykayn> crazy it still happens in 16.04
[20:25] <compdoc> sfdebug, I have remmina installed and connect to many diff windows machines
[20:25] <tykayn> Linux ubuntu-P775DM3-G 4.8.0-46-generic #49~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 31 14:51:03 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:25] <amirite> please, nobody talk to tomreyn
[20:25] <amirite> everybody should put him on ignore
[20:25] <sfdebug> compdoc, me too, but just on this machine that have this line on the .rdp file i can't connect...
[20:25] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: hey i already have nm cli
[20:26] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: right, sorry, it's no longer a separate package these days. i just learnt that myself
[20:26] <tomreyn> so just run: sudo nmcli
[20:26] <tomreyn> or even without sudo for now
[20:27] <dertysuoth> it shows the device and lo and en2ps0
[20:27] <tomreyn> to understand how it works, read its man page: man nmcli
[20:27] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: which device is your wireless device as listed in the iwconfig output?
[20:29] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: it doesnt have an address under iwconfig
[20:29] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: but it shows  one under nmcli
[20:29] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: i'm asking what the device name is, not its ip or mac address
[20:29] <dertysuoth> tomreyn:it also says unavailable
[20:29] <dertysuoth> ahh
[20:29] <dertysuoth> one sec
[20:30] <tomreyn> do you have another way to connect to the internet from this system? like, through this ethernet interface you have there?
[20:30] <dertysuoth> tomreyn:  the device name is the wlx number right ?
[20:30] <dertysuoth> tomreyn:  i have it connected via ethernet atm so i can work on it
[20:30] <dertysuoth> and get wifi working
[20:31] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: very well. can you install "pastebinit" if you haven't?
[20:31] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | dertysuoth
[20:31] <dertysuoth> we have it installed
[20:32] <tomreyn> iwconfig | pastebinit
[20:32] <tomreyn> ^ pleae run this and paste the URL here
[20:33] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500752/
[20:33] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: that's the only output it made? i expected more.
[20:34] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: thats weird the dongle kicked off
[20:34] <dertysuoth> one sec
[20:34] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: also, which ubuntu version is this? lsb_release -d
[20:35] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500764/
[20:36] <tomreyn> so ubuntu 17.04, thanks. in the future, you can paste single lines of output here directly.
[20:37] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: did u wanna see the output for the nmcli too?
[20:37] <dertysuoth> sorry haha my bad
[20:37] <tomreyn> next time you have a choice of getting a wireless NIC connected via usb or pcie, please choose pcie
[20:37] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: sure, show nmcli as well
[20:38] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500773/
[20:38] <dertysuoth> we only are trying usb because the pcie slots are for the gpus with the alcoin mining
[20:38] <dertysuoth> i usually would for my normal computers
[20:40] <gredjok> can I ask her about iptables?
[20:41] <transhuman> ok so I tried export CXX=/usr/bin/g++-4.8 && export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.8 and it still tells me the version of gcc I am using it too new? Anyone, thanks
[20:42] <rypervenche> gredjok: Sure. What is your question/problem?
[20:43] <justalex_> hi
[20:43] <SouthMoonPizza34> hey how can i change chats in weechat?
[20:43] <justalex_> not sure
[20:43] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: i see. well this device isnt really supported, yet. but the github repository you found there may help. there are two others i found which might be relevant: https://github.com/paspro/rtl8814AU (a fork from the one you are using), https://github.com/ulli-kroll/rtl8821au
[20:43] <transhuman> to clarify it tells me that gcc-4.6 is too new...
[20:43] <gredjok> rypervenche, I found a suspicious ip and blocked it with sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -d 45.25.04.12 -j REJECT , but every time I reboot the machine this rule disappears. How do I save the rule?
[20:44] <justalex_> i got a question
[20:44] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: can you show "nmcli device show" and "nmi connectio show", too, please?
[20:44] <transhuman> iptables-save > /etc/network/iptables.rules
[20:44] <justalex_> I got a 32 GB usb
[20:45] <justalex_> and it does not connect to my ubuntu mate
[20:45] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500817/
[20:45] <justalex_> what do i do?
[20:45] <vex8ion> Howdy... Was wondering if there was a way to fix this error.."W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin for module i915".?
[20:45] <YankDownUnder> gredjok, That IP address is owned by ATT - the phone company  - is that your ISP?
[20:46] <justalex_> can anybody help
[20:46] <YankDownUnder> justalex_, !ask
[20:46] <gredjok> YankDownUnder, that is a random ip
[20:47] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500828/
[20:47] <justalex_> i tried !ask ubuntu but does not work
[20:47] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: thanks for fixing my typos ;)
[20:47] <vex8ion> Any help is appreciated.
[20:47] <justalex_> it used to work fine
[20:47] <YankDownUnder> gredjok, gredjok Are you using "gufw" as a GUI for your firewall?
[20:48] <gredjok> nope YankDownUnder
[20:48] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500839
[20:48] <YankDownUnder> gredjok, http://dev-notes.eu/2016/08/persistent-iptables-rules-in-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus/
[20:48] <dertysuoth> its all good i addded an extra one on there from the guid that dude sent
[20:49] <transhuman> vex8ion, its sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[20:50] <gredjok> wow thanks YankDownUnder i never though about googling, thinking the question would be more straightforward
[20:50] <vex8ion> transhuman: thank you
[20:50] <transhuman> hope thats the right package google search for the error if it doesnt fix it
[20:50] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: this discusses how to connect to a wireless access point: https://nullr0ute.com/2016/09/connect-to-a-wireless-network-using-command-line-nmcli/
[20:50] <YankDownUnder> gredjok, I use this page often because my memory is, um...not good...
[20:50] <transhuman> anyone able to help with my issue?
[20:50] <YankDownUnder> transhuman, Issue?
[20:51] <transhuman> repeat ... sorry for the repeat ...ok so I tried export CXX=/usr/bin/g++-4.8 && export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.8 and it still tells me the version of gcc I am using it too new? Anyone, thanks
[20:51] <transhuman> it says I am using gcc-6
[20:51] <tomreyn> transhuman: what is "it"?
[20:51] <YankDownUnder> transhuman, ARGH...right...not my area...have you thought to ask in a "dev" channel?
[20:51] <transhuman> this is on yackety
[20:52] <vex8ion> transhuman: Is this normal "Unable to locate package linux-firmware-nonfree" ?
[20:52] <transhuman> not sure why it wont pick up the gcc version i am specifying with the export gcc= command cc=
[20:52] <amirite> please transhuman
[20:52] <amirite> do not talk to tomreyn
[20:52] <amirite> he is not well behaved
[20:53] <tomreyn> ^ ignore the troll
[20:53] <transhuman> its probably in another repository like the non-free repository vex8ion
[20:53] <transhuman> sorry amirite didnt know
[20:53] <YankDownUnder> vex8ion, In your /etc/apt/sources.list -> have you uncommented the "non free" and "partner" repos?
[20:53] <dertysuoth> transhuman:  there is any issue getting it to list the ssid networks
[20:54] <YankDownUnder> tomreyn, It must be your haircut that caused the "troll" to troll...hmm...
[20:54] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: sorry meant that for u
[20:54] <transhuman> wireless on ubuntu isnt my area...dont have any ubuntu machines on wireless dertysuoth sorry
[20:54] <dertysuoth> sorry sent to wrong guy
[20:54] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: so "nmcli device wifi list" shows nothing?
[20:55] <vex8ion> YankDownUnder: You effectively just lost me... I don't know
[20:55] <dertysuoth> il pastbinit what it shows
[20:55] <vex8ion> transhuman: Thanks for trying to help me.
[20:55] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500872?
[20:55] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500872/
[20:55] <dertysuoth> sorry
[20:56] <transhuman> dertysuoth, is this on a laptop
[20:56] <YankDownUnder> vex8ion, If "apt" is unable to locate a package - you *may* be able to FIND said package by enabling the extra repositories for ppa's by uncommenting the lines in the /etc/apt/sources.list (or through the GUI, whichever is easier)
[20:56] <dertysuoth> no its on a desktop
[20:56] <transhuman> is the wireless switch turned on just check on the wireless router and if there is one on your wireless card on the desktop...just for shits and giggles
[20:57] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: so "iwlist wlx2c4d5404a1c9 scanning" shows what?
[20:57] <dertysuoth> one sec ill binit
[20:58] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500886/
[20:58] <faugusztin> tomreyn: that device naming is crazy :D
[20:58] <vex8ion> YankDownUnder: I think that may be above my abilities. I can generally find online, copy & paste code my KNOWLEDGE  stops there.
[20:58] <tomreyn> faugusztin: realtek's choice
[20:59] <faugusztin> tomreyn: well that is actually udev, but still :)
[21:00] <tomreyn> ok ;)
[21:00] <YankDownUnder> vex8ion, You're trying to get a hold of firmware...that is apparently NOT available...in the "Software Center" (or Synaptic) you can enable several repositories for PPA's that are NOT part of the "brown bag" install. This *should* resolve your issue. That shouldn't be "above your head" in the least.
[21:01] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: so iwlist does see access points but nmcli does not, that's weirtd. i'm not sure why
[21:01] <faugusztin> tomreyn: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/udev/udev-builtin-net_id.c -> wl = wlan, x = MAC address, rest is the mac address :)
[21:01] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: ya so that where we are at haha
[21:03] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: when we nanoed into /etc/network/interfaces we put settings in could tye be in wrong
[21:03] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: maybe it was a temporary issue? can you show "nmcli dev status" and "nmcli device wifi list" again?
[21:03] <Dynamiiic> hi, ive got 2 ubuntu servers (1 14.04 and 1 on 16.04) when i SSH into them the 14.04 serv has tab-autocompletion whilst 16.06 doenst, any experience with it?
[21:03] <vex8ion> YankDownUnder: No, that I can understand enough to see if I can find the PPA. Pretty sure it is my printer. Thank you for aking the time to spell it out for me I am getting old and learning to code other that for my own personal use going from windows to Ubuntu isn't in my near future.
[21:03] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: oh so the device wont be managed by network manager now.
[21:04] <tomreyn> can i still see those outputs again please
[21:04] <YankDownUnder> tomreyn, I wonder if using "nmcli" with the "-ps" switch would show what he's looking for...?
[21:04] <dertysuoth> yes one sec
[21:04] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500941/
[21:04] <YankDownUnder> Dynamiiic, Strange that...eh...however, have you asked in #ubuntu-server?
[21:05] <tomreyn> YankDownUnder: pretty printed secrets?
[21:05] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500943/
[21:05] <Dynamiiic> @YankDownUnder no i havent yet, ill try there. thanks
[21:06] <dertysuoth> yank down under anything is worth trying at this point
[21:06] <dertysuoth> YankDownUnder: not to step on anyones toes
[21:07] <dertysuoth> that option is unknow btw
[21:07] <YankDownUnder> dertysuoth, I have no toes.
[21:07] <dertysuoth> what -ps switch
[21:07] <dertysuoth> YankDownUnder: even better i have no wifi
[21:08] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: please run "sudo ifdown wlx2c4d5404a1c9", then "sudo cp -p /etc/network/interfaces to /etc/network/interfaces.backup-20170502" and edit /etc/network/interfaces to remove all references to  wlx2c4d5404a1c9 and its configuration.
[21:08] <tomreyn> then run the same nmcli commands again
[21:08] <dertysuoth> kk on sec runnign it
[21:08] <YankDownUnder> The only reason I suggested using the "-ps" switch was because of the "hidden" networks that were listed...I used it before to get "more" information - not that I would suggest printing PUBLICLY the "secrets" of any wireless networks...however, it worked for the time I used it...so it was merely a passing thought.
[21:08] <transhuman> system wide is there a way that works for setting CC and GCC versions(temporarily)?
[21:09] <dertysuoth> kk
[21:09] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500959/
[21:09] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500960/
[21:10] <dertysuoth> my bad one sec i messd up that one man
[21:10] <kazuma_desu> https://i.imgur.com/P1j3hc5.png :(
[21:10] <YankDownUnder> transhuman, You do know that in mucking about the with the GCC of a system is going to end up breaking it badly, right?
[21:10] <kazuma_desu> gnome-screenshot and thumbnails in pics for files keeps crashing https://i.imgur.com/P1j3hc5.png
[21:11] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: i guess 'unavailable' points to a driver issue. but i'm new to nmcli myself so this is a bit of a puzzle for me, too.
[21:11] <YankDownUnder> kazuma_desu, Is it safe to assume you've done an update/upgrade and tried this again...?
[21:12] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: what does "rfkill list" show?
[21:12] <kazuma_desu> YankDownUnder, yep, just ran sudo apt-get update and upgrade -y this morning then rebooted YankDownUnder
[21:13] <dertysuoth> sorry im running your long command gimme a sec my bad
[21:14] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: also,m if you don't mind loosing network connectivity on the ethernet interface for a second, please do "sudo service networking restart" and then "sudo service network-manager restart" as well and show "nmcli d" again (or just tell us which state the wireless NIC is in now.
[21:15] <omenius> hey, can anyone throw some buzzwords to google in order to make custom keyboard layout (I use both X and wayland)
[21:16] <minimec> omenius: xbindkeys
[21:17] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: alright i ran the big command and the interfaces folder is empty
[21:17] <dertysuoth> so now rfkill then the restart
[21:18] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: cool
[21:18] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24500994/
[21:21] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: are you juggling keyboards there or do you have an ssh connection setup to the computer where you'Re trying to get the wireless nic working?
[21:22] <tomreyn> the latter would probably be a lot easier as long as the ethernet connection works and the default route points to it
[21:22] <dertysuoth> im using laptop next to the desktop im working on
[21:22] <dertysuoth> i typed the restart command in and its still doing something
[21:22] <tomreyn> okay, works, too, iguess.
[21:23] <tomreyn> hmm that's taking too long then
[21:23] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: is there a way to stop i t
[21:23] <dertysuoth> ?
[21:23] <tomreyn> ctrl-c
[21:23] <dertysuoth> kk ill enter it one more time
[21:23] <dertysuoth> and see if htat works
[21:24] <tomreyn> "sudo service networking restart" is what you're running therE?
[21:24] <Younder> That doesn't work
[21:25] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24501012
[21:25] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24501012/
[21:25] <dertysuoth> i ran both they worked this time
[21:25] <sala_> i have flash memory stick with  bootable ubuntu  and i want to format it and it is not possible to format i try gparted it is not possible any body  can help me?
[21:25] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: yeay progress! it's disconnected, so managed
[21:25] <Ben64> sala_: gparted will work
[21:26] <YankDownUnder> (Is the USB unmounted?) :)
[21:26] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: now "nmcli dev wifi list"
[21:26] <dertysuoth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24501023/
[21:26] <tomreyn> wohoo
[21:27] <dertysuoth> got em
[21:27] <dertysuoth> ok now to connect to murica
[21:27] <sala_> Ben64: i try it  not possible
[21:27] <Ben64> sala_: it is though
[21:27] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: this wont work if signal is 0
[21:27] <dertysuoth> ohh haha
[21:28] <dertysuoth> the routers right next to it
[21:28] <dertysuoth> do you wann try anyways?
[21:29] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: maybe run the same command again and see whether the signal stregngth changes
[21:29] <tomreyn> and sure, you could just try
[21:29] <dertysuoth> i ran it 4 times same strength that makes no sense cus its right here hah a
[21:29] <dertysuoth> how to do we add the network ?
[21:30] <tomreyn> nmcli device wifi rescan
[21:30] <tomreyn> to actually re-trigger a scan
[21:31] <tomreyn> to configure the coinnection: nmcli device wlx2c4d5404a1c9 connect MURICA password YOURPASSWORDGOESHERE
[21:32] <travis__> Blank blu ray wasted... Small things that frustrate a guy, UBUNTU you are leaving me with a feeling that I will not be returning to you , I use to love this systembut as of late the MULTITASKING abilities of this OS have left me pissed of too many times. Hell just plain single tasking freezes have bout killed this affair we have had already now this
[21:33] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: make sure the antennas are aligned to each other. maybe moving the server a little away from the router can improve things
[21:33] <YankDownUnder> *ouch*
[21:33] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: it said that the device name wasnt understood
[21:34] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: maybeit's just "wifi" then: nmcli device wifi connect MURICA password YOURPASSWORDGOESHERE
[21:35] <dertysuoth> i think that worked
[21:35] <tomreyn> nmcli connection show
[21:35] <vagvaf> hello guys, I think I messed up my php installation. Any help? this is the error output I am given : https://pastebin.com/Y0w10T1s
[21:36] <dertysuoth> wiat it said connection activation failed 7 secrets were required but not provided
[21:37] <dertysuoth> also router is reading 100 percent now
[21:38] <YankDownUnder> vagvaf, Have you tried doing: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ==> to see if the "-f" will FIX the "installation" along with doing the necessary update/upgrade...which sometimes will resolve the "config" issues?
[21:38] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: did you replace the word YOURPASSWORDGOESHERE by your actual password?
[21:38] <dertysuoth> yes
[21:38] <dertysuoth> haha
[21:38] <vagvaf> YankDownUnder, yes with no sucess
[21:39] <YankDownUnder> vagvaf, And is it safe to assume that you've gone through the process of doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure" for PHP...?
[21:40] <vagvaf> YankDownUnder, no..let me try it
[21:40] <kojak> Hello I need help please
[21:41] <vagvaf> YankDownUnder, i get "php7.0 is broken or not fully installed"
[21:41] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: based on what i read when searching for the error message online, this may be a result of a low signalstrength / bad signal-
[21:41] <YankDownUnder> vagvaf, You can use the "sudo apt-get reinstall php7.0" -> see what does produces...
[21:42] <kojak> I accidentally removed my older kernel versions after an upgrade which removed all my modules my laptop can't access internet anymore no usb/ethernet adapter works I only need to find the package that install my wifi driver and my usb/ethernet adapter driver can anybody assist me
[21:42] <dertysuoth> hmm so the dongle is too close now ?
[21:43] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: i am gonna move the router real fast to another part of the house
[21:43] <dertysuoth> ill brb
[21:44] <vagvaf> YankDownUnder, "Internal Error, No file name for php7.0:amd64" :S
[21:44] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: hmm i don't know. i just looked at your earlier "iwlist wlx2c4d5404a1c9 scanning" output and it showed a signal strenght of 100/100 and quality of 96/100, so very good.
[21:44] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: so i guess thats not the issue
[21:45] <kojak> up please
[21:45] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: the most effective thing to try would be to put the access point to a different channel. one which is not 3 or 11.
[21:45] <YankDownUnder> vagvaf, "sudo apt-get -f reinstall php7.0" (or whatever the package name is)
[21:49] <vagvaf> YankDownUnder, same error..the package name is correct
[21:49] <YankDownUnder> vagvaf, How was the PHP package installed in the first place - was it a standalone install - or did you get it through the repositories?
[21:50] <vagvaf> YankDownUnder, through the repositories
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> vagvaf, So in doing "apt search php7" - do you see the COMPLETE package name?
[21:52] <kojak> up please :(
[21:52] <kojak> I accidentally removed my older kernel versions after an upgrade which removed all my modules my laptop can't access internet anymore no usb/ethernet adapter works I only need to find the package that install my wifi driver and my usb/ethernet adapter driver can anybody assist me
[21:53] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: hey
[21:53] <YankDownUnder> kojak, So the machine (laptop) has NO connectivity...
[21:53] <vagvaf> YankDownUnder, this is the output: https://pastebin.com/02B1wUAH . php7.0 is installed
[21:53] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: yes?
[21:54] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: hey so when i moved the router it went back to what it was doing
[21:54] <dertysuoth> what do we have to do to get it to notice netowrks again ?
[21:55] <YankDownUnder> vagvaf, ARGH...right...far out, this...far out...have you asked in #ubuntu-server yet? I don't do PHP - let alone Apache2 stuff...(it gets too overcomplicated)
[21:55] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: "sudo service networking restart; sudo service network-manager restart" seemed tro help last time
[21:55] <dertysuoth> when i try to rescan for network i get a message that says scanning not allowed while unavailable or activating
[21:55] <dertysuoth> ahh kk
[21:56] <vagvaf> YankDownUnder, I will ask now :) thanks anyways!
[21:56] <kojak> YankDownUnder: no
[21:56] <kojak> att all
[21:56] <YankDownUnder> vagvaf, Peace, bro...hope you get yer stuff fixed...fingers crossed
[21:56] <kojak> I am from another computer
[21:56] <kojak> I rebooted on recovery mode
[21:56] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: if it still dont work run: nmcli device wifi list
[21:57] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: and "nmcli d"
[21:57] <kojak> I resumed the boot I end up on my environment with my data but no internet access and no modules
[21:58] <dertysuoth> nmcli is device?
[21:58] <dertysuoth> nmcli d is device?
[21:58] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Being that you've deleted your kernels on the existing installation - and have no backups...I can only suggest looking through the kernel drivers directories and your /etc directory for clues as to which drivers your wifi and ethernet/LAN were using...otherwise, you might consider doing an "upgrade" installation over the top of your existing installation with the hopes that the drivers will be re-installed - along with new
[21:58] <YankDownUnder> kernels and etc.
[21:58] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: yes, a shorthand
[21:58] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: so its showing the netowrks again
[21:59] <dertysuoth> the router is showing at 0 still
[21:59] <kojak> YankDownUnder: This is what I prepared for
[21:59] <dertysuoth> and its on the second floor
[21:59] <kojak> but it would be my last resort as I am afraid of loosing things
[21:59] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: and your kernel version is?
[21:59] <kojak> My wireless card is a broadcom
[21:59] <dertysuoth>  how do i check that ?
[21:59] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Your /home won't be mucked with...however, there are other customisations that might be lost...
[22:00] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: cat /proc/version
[22:00] <kojak> and I have a usb ethernet adapter with a realtek r8152 firmware
[22:00] <YankDownUnder> kojak, On this "laptop" - do you have ANY means by which to connect it to a network?
[22:00] <dertysuoth> linux version 4.10.0-20-generic
[22:01] <kojak> YankDownUnder: all that I have tried failled up till now
[22:01] <YankDownUnder> kojak, The laptop is sitting in recovery mode?
[22:01] <kojak> YankDownUnder: I rebooted with a liveusb and lsmod gave me cdc_ether usb_net r8152 mii usbcore for my usb/ethernet adapter
[22:01] <selsper_> how do I check that I have the latest/ best/ most relevant graphics driver installed???
[22:01] <kojak> yes it is
[22:02] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Have you booted to a console on the laptop?
[22:02] <kojak> yes
[22:02] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: since that's >4.8 you may need to use https://github.com/paspro/rtl8814AU instead
[22:02] <kojak> YankDownUnder: but I resumed boot and it looged me through the GUI and I have everything here available
[22:02] <kojak> YankDownUnder: only the network fails
[22:03] <YankDownUnder> kojak, So if you type: sudo modprobe t8152 ==> do you get any errors or messages?
[22:03] <dertysuoth> so if the machine isnt connected to the web what would u recoomend
[22:03] <kojak> yes
[22:03] <kojak> YankDownUnder: FATAL no module found in /lib/modules/...
[22:03] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Right...lack of kernel modules...
[22:03] <kojak> YankDownUnder: exactly
[22:04] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: how  do you change the kernel to 8?
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> kojak, You might start to consider doing the "upgrade" installation over the top of your existing installation - remember, it won't blow away your /home directory...
[22:04] <kojak> YankDownUnder: fatal: module r8152 not found in directory /lib/modules/4.8.0-51-generic
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Yeah...lack of kernel modules...
[22:05] <kojak> YankDownUnder: there must be a way to download this module and copy it on my laptop
[22:05] <YankDownUnder> kojak, I'm surprised that the actual ethernet/LAN is not being found...but that's a different story.
[22:05] <kojak> YankDownUnder: plus my harddirve is encrypted with luks
[22:05] <kojak> YankDownUnder: it's no native ethernet it is a USB adapter I had for those kind of emergencies
[22:05] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: ubuntu 17.04 (zesty) copmes with 4.10 by default, you should probably not run it with an older kernel.
[22:06] <dertysuoth> oh my bad
[22:06] <dertysuoth> i am confused on what your reccomending
[22:06] <YankDownUnder> kojak, You can attempt to do so on another machine - copy it to the USB and copy it to the laptop...OR boot the laptop with the liveUSB, locate the proper packages/drivers, download them, and then "install" them after rebooting into the laptop's system (recovery)
[22:07] <kojak> YankDownUnder: I can find which package provide the module
[22:07] <kojak> *can't*
[22:07] <kojak> YankDownUnder: *can't*
[22:08] <dertysuoth> tomreyn:  its reading 100 percent now
[22:08] <YankDownUnder> kojak, The smartest thing to do is what I suggested...really...overlay installation on the existing installation...
[22:08] <dertysuoth> but the connectio to it is failing
[22:08] <dertysuoth> nvm it switched bacj
[22:08] <kojak> YankDownUnder: the only thing I know is theses are the needed modules cdc_ether usb_net r8152 mii usbcore
[22:09] <gosul33t> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu 17.04 with Gnome and am trying to fix my resolution
[22:09] <kojak> YankDownUnder: I will try one thing reboot from the usb drive and try to copy to the hard drive all the /lib somewhere
[22:09] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: my gues sis that the driver you have now has stability issues on kernel versions newer than 4.8. and you have 4.10. so i would suggest to remove the driver you use now and use the driver from the github repository i linked to (which is a modified version of the driver you are using now, making it work with linux versions newer than 4.8, so it should work on your linux 4.10).
[22:10] <gosul33t> I'm using a laptop, in the Display settings, the highest is 1366x768, how can I change it to 1920x1080?
[22:10] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: i think you said your brother built the other driver for you, so i suggest you ask him to build this one for you now.
[22:10] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: can i do that via flash drive ?
[22:10] <YankDownUnder> kojak, I understand that...the kernel requires the modules - and requires their presence within the kernel mod tree (/var/lib/kernel blah blah blah) -> so if you wish to spend the time in building all of that from a local point, it will take time. You truly need to THINK about removing kernels and kernel sources the next time you're faced with this situation.
[22:10] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: do what exactly?
[22:11] <kojak> YankDownUnder: I used the kclean alias I always used but ... completion failed ...
[22:11] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: i think i got it i gave him the link and ithink hes gonna build the driver
[22:13] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: alright. i guess this will help. he would probably agree that this github repository's README file hints that the original github repository would not be compatible to the kernel you use.
[22:13] <kojak> YankDownUnder: are you aware of any repair command from a liveusb ?
[22:13] <dertysuoth> ya haha he couldnt figure out what you did so i think this willl fix the connection issu e
[22:14] <dertysuoth> we will try this,  thank you a ton for the help
[22:14] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Yeah...reinstallation...but I digress...
[22:14] <dertysuoth> we couldnt have gotten this far without u
[22:14] <kojak> YankDownUnder: ... I am realy affraid of upgrading to 17.04 as there are known issues
[22:14] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: :) glad i could hellp. take notes on how we proceeded and how we got to the point where we could almost connect. you'll need to do the same again with the new driver
[22:15] <dertysuoth> can u remind me the steps
[22:15] <dertysuoth> so i can keep them stored
[22:15] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Didn't say anything about upgrading to 17.04 - what's the installation on the laptop?
[22:15] <kojak> YankDownUnder: the laptop is installed with kubuntu 16.10
[22:16] <Younder> I usually stick to the LTS versions. There is so much stuff on my machine it is a nightmare to upgrade.
[22:16] <YankDownUnder> kojak, So then you merely do a "reinstall" of 16.10 over the top of the existing 16.10...easy done.
[22:16] <kojak> I will lose all my setups
[22:16] <kojak> YankDownUnder: I will lose all my setups
[22:17] <gsilvapt> Anyone has experience using a mini displayport in Ubuntu 16.04?
[22:17] <AndroUser> hi
[22:17] <kojak> YankDownUnder: there must be a way
[22:17] <YankDownUnder> kojak, It will NOT delete your /home directory....and in all reality, you've saved data, true? Makes you think about the repercussions of deleting kernels...
[22:17] <dertysuoth> tomreyn: which ones would u write down
[22:18] <AndroUser> do know command find all file *.extension more recent per folder?
[22:18] <gsilvapt> I'm having huge issues after suspension. Like, performance issues, then computer crashes and I have to restart it manually...
[22:18] <AndroUser> i newbie
[22:18] <kojak> YankDownUnder: no backup no space to do it ... I always dealt with a small /boot by removing old kernels via an alias first time autocomplete betrays me
[22:18] <YankDownUnder> kojak, "The way" is going to be long and drawn out. If you feel so inclined to do it, bear in mind it will take time. I'm offering you a K.I.S.S. solution that WILL work regardless...either which, remember that we have to live down the mistakes we make.
[22:18] <Younder> I might mention etckeeper. The installs version control vom /etc. Can save you from a lot of trouble.
[22:19] <AndroUser> i looking command e.g. find who find file more recent per folder
[22:19] <kojak> YankDownUnder: you are right but I will lose all my host based setup and probably the kde config
[22:19] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: not really. generally, remove the old driver ("lsmod; rmmod rtl8814au") and remove the drivers' files (and only those!) from /lib/modules/... then move the new driver into place and make sure it gets loaded, use "lsmod" and "modinfo rtl8814au", make sure it's the new driver version your brother built for you now.
[22:20] <YankDownUnder> kojak, That stuff is STILL on the laptop. SImply back up those files. As far as your KDE desktop configuration, as I said, the /home directory is NOT touched by the "installation"...which means that your stuff will NOT be blown out...hmm...
[22:20] <AndroUser> can i with find to have file more recent per folder
[22:21] <YankDownUnder> kojak, And setting up all that stuff is going to take LESS time than fighting to figure out your f*kup with the kernels and drivers...true?
[22:21] <kojak> YankDownUnder: this I know but /etc files I have touched, some configs in /var some tunings left and right ...
[22:21] <YankDownUnder> kojak, COPY THEM TO A DIRECTORY AS A BACKUP. Simple. Easy done.
[22:22] <kojak> YankDownUnder: I am quite unsure... I tweaked my computer a lot it to have all the drivers working I don't remeber what to back up ...
[22:23] <kojak> YankDownUnder: I may sound stupid but I had quite a hard time to have perfectly stable with all the drivers I almost wrote a blog about it ...
[22:25] <tomreyn> !irclogs | dertysuoth
[22:26] <tomreyn> you can folow our previous chat up there.
[22:27] <tomreyn> dertysuoth: sorry that was nonsense. i meant to write: you can read up on our previous chat there.
[22:27] <tomreyn> i'll be afk but back later
[22:28] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Remember this: You made a big mistake. You have to pay for the mistake you made. You can do it the easy way and roll on, or you can do it the hard way. Your choice.
[22:29] <kojak> YankDownUnder: you are 100% suppose I was on a production system I should have found a solution to recover it. Learning the hard can pay good sometimes at least I would say I have learned from my mistakes and I truely believe there must be a way to work this arround
[22:32] <YankDownUnder> kojak, IF you were on a production/live system, this would not have happened. There would be backups...and backups of backups.
[22:32] <kojak> YankDownUnder: the solution doesn't look that hard, all I need to do is mount my encrypted drive and copy /var/lib/module blablah
[22:33] <kojak> YankDownUnder: well if the backup would take 24h out plus 24h to install it and induce massive money loss that wouldn't change a thing
[22:33] <YankDownUnder> kojak, There is a way, but you're wanting to go down a rabbit hole that will cause you a heap of wasted time. Your choice. I'm not here to take you down that rabbit hole. I have things to do and folks to assist...partaking in the painful journey is NOT my idea of a nice breakfast and morning tea. :)
[22:34] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Business doesn't work like that - and neither does network administration. Restoration of a backup - modular - would generally take less than five minutes.
[22:34] <YankDownUnder> As it does here...(two minutes, maybe?)
[22:34] <kojak> YankDownUnder: you are right on that too :) Thank you for your help in all the cases I will keep you update whether I faild or not
[22:34] <kojak> YankDownUnder: which backup solution would you recommend for me btw ?
[22:42] <YankDownUnder> kojak, For your purposes => "systemback" => it's in the repos => else you can create nice scripts - which are the better option because you can customise stuff => so using rsync and the likes WILL be your friend(s)
[22:44] <kojak> YankDownUnder: thank you. Now I am reading the doc to mount my encrypted filesystem ...
[22:44] <saesneg> can anyone help with broadcom bluetooth issues?
[22:45] <nathan_> does autoremove/autoclean represents any danger to the stability of the system?
[22:46] <tomreyn> kojak: since you got an encrypted file system, you may also want to store backups encrypted. look into duplicity. be warned that it's not the easiest solution to setup as your first backup solution though.
[22:46] <nathan_> I saw an article on the web suggesting some apps to facilitate the job of cleaning an ubuntu machine.
[22:47] <tomreyn> kojak: also be aware that backups are of no use if you don'T know how to restore them targetted, quickly and efficiently and have tested that restoring them actually works.
[22:48] <tomreyn> nathan_: if you're referring to apt autoclean / autoremove: no it does not.
[22:48] <nathan_> tomreyn: ok, thanks.
[22:49] <tomreyn> nathan_: for the most part, ubuntu doesn't get cluttered with outdated configurations and files all over the place (thanks to package management), so there is less of a need to run software to try and guess what's safe to remove.
[22:49] <YankDownUnder> nathan_, They're useful in just "housekeeping"...nothing harmful in the least.
[22:50] <kojak> tomreyn: yes indeed I need to test this
[22:50] <nathan_> I guess I should run these commands or applications only if I'm running out of space on my machine, right? Idk if its a best practice to run them regularly.
[22:51] <irreleph4nt> Hi. Are you guys here supporting elementaryos as well?
[22:52] <capum321> i've installed qingy. i'm supposed to edit /etc/event.d/tty1 to make it work, which i don't have this event.d path in /etc. should this be the default?
[22:52] <nathan_> As tomreyn said, package management probably deal with this stuff alone. Well, thanks for the answers. :)
[22:52] <YankDownUnder> nathan_, Here's something that I use basically in a script every day: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt -y autoremove && sudo apt -y autoclean" => just "cleans house" nicely and doesn't leave "cruft" all over the place - not that Ubuntu does in the first place, but it's nice to KNOW that the house is clean, as it were...
[22:52] <irreleph4nt> I am using elementaryos Loki (Ubuntu 16.04)with a touchscreen laptop - How do I right-clikc via touch? Long press / hold does nothing
[22:52] <tomreyn> nathan_: you don't need to run them regularly, no. also you should not run out of space on the root file system. if you do, either your partitioning scheme is bad for how you use ubuntu, or there is some software which is badly configred which needs to be fixed.
[22:54] <tomreyn> YankDownUnder: you can do the same using unattended-updates (except the autoclean, i think)
[22:54] <tomreyn> !elementary | irreleph4nt
[22:54] <YankDownUnder> tomreyn, True - I still like to watch IN PERSON...(servers are a different story - I do NOT want to know anything other than they're up and running happily) :)
[22:54] <irreleph4nt> tomreyn, thanks
[22:55] <tomreyn> i see, you're special ;)
[22:55] <tomreyn> ^ YankDownUnder
[22:56] <capum321> hello
[22:56] <capum321> could one verify if /etc/event.d exists in your own system?
[22:56] <tomreyn> capum321: you could run 'ls /etc/event.d'
[22:57] <capum321> i don't have this path
[22:57] <capum321> i've installed qingy. i'm supposed to edit /etc/event.d/tty1 to make it work, which i don't have this event.d path in /etc. should this be the default?
[22:57] <tomreyn> verification complete
[22:59] <tomreyn> capum321: /etc/event.d is used by upstart, which was used in past ubuntu releases (some of which are still supported)
[22:59] <capum321> tomreyn: myself could do some research, but i am on terminal console
[23:00] <capum321> i should get some terminal browser
[23:00] <tomreyn> either that or a second computer
[23:00] <capum321> don't have second option
[23:00] <capum321> elinks right?
[23:00] <tomreyn> live / install cd also works
[23:01] <tomreyn> yes, elinks is an option
[23:01] <tomreyn> dont run as root
[23:01] <capum321> ok
[23:01] <ecdhe> !trusty
[23:02] <tomreyn> (the same goes for irc, cough, cough)
[23:05] <kojak> YankDownUnder: what's the prefered ubuntu installation method to have least amount of software installed by default (is it using lubuntu then incrementally adding packages?) or a la debian via netinstall/server version (warnings ahead about power consumption)
[23:05] <capum321> great advice
[23:05] <kojak> tomreyn: what's the prefered ubuntu installation method to have least amount of software installed by default (is it using lubuntu then incrementally adding packages?) or a la debian via netinstall/server version (warnings ahead about power consumption)
[23:06] <YankDownUnder> kojak, lubuntu or xubuntu are great for "minimal"...for YOU? Yes...that would be a good option...
[23:06] <tomreyn> kojak: netinstall / server to install few packages, debootstrap for possibly even fewer. but reducing the amount of installed software is not the same as reducing the amount of running software.
[23:07] <tomreyn> ...or how much resources the running software consumes.
[23:07] <tomreyn> ...or which software you choose (opver others) to run.
[23:08] <AndroUser> hi
[23:08] <Bashing-om> kojak: If ya really desire lean and mean - and are handy with the package management system; consider a minimal install.
[23:08] <Bashing-om> !minimal | kojak
[23:09] <tomreyn> Note this hint: "While the minimal iso image is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode."
[23:16] <kojak> tomreyn: very good point about uefi
[23:17] <kojak> Bashing-om: thanks
[23:17] <kojak> YankDownUnder: thanks
[23:17] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Peace bro.
[23:20] <Bashing-om> kojak: :) Every dark cloud has a silver lining - so my Grand Mother told me .
[23:20] <YankDownUnder> "Every obstacle is actually a challenge and a lesson."
[23:20] <kojak> YankDownUnder: you are definitely right!
[23:21] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Perception is everything.
[23:21] <kojak> YankDownUnder: it's the moment of truth for me :)
[23:23] <YankDownUnder> kojak, I've made many mistakes in the past 30+ years...and fortunately have learned from SOME...
[23:23] <danja> yay bolllocks
[23:23] <kojak> YankDownUnder: I also did and I have one I particularly regret
[23:24] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Therefore, perceiving everything in a positive light creates a better path towards learning - and keeps the mind open.
[23:25] <capum321> hello since i don't have a login manager in this minimal installation (just base system + with few tweaks already) how to, after login in tty1, the system starts the session i installed automatically as lined out help.ubuntu.com/community/qingy
[23:25] <kojak> YankDownUnder: I realy should stick to this moral every single day of my life
[23:26] <bazhang> !ot | kojak YankDownUnder
[23:26] <YankDownUnder> capum321, Not sure I understand
[23:26] <capum321> hello since i don't have a login manager in this minimal installation (just base system + with few tweaks already) how to, after login in tty1, the system starts the session automatically as lined out help.ubuntu.com/community/qingy
[23:26] <capum321> sorry
[23:27] <capum321> YankDownUnder: do you understand qingy?
[23:27] <kojak> bazhang: sorry for disgressing
[23:27] <YankDownUnder> capum321, Looking...
[23:27] <analyser> hey guys, anyone knows a tool to compare text files (like diff, vimdiff, etc) that is capable of doing of revision like word? I mean, accepting/declining each modifications?
[23:28] <selsper_> gedit?
[23:28] <capum321> YankDownUnder: I want to make it work under 17.04 (my system doens't have /etc/event.d) or use some other method
[23:28] <analyser> selsper_: gedit does it?
[23:29] <selsper_> probably not
[23:29] <selsper_> been here 3 weeks trying to get runescape client operantional
[23:29] <analyser> selsper_: afaik I agree
[23:29] <YankDownUnder> capum321, 17.04? Mate...sorry...that's "too new" for my taste and experience. LTS releases is another story. I am looking at "qingy" - the Community pages - and yes, I understand the principle - what I don't fully understand is where you're at and what you're having an issue with aside from the /etc/event.d bits...
[23:30] <YankDownUnder> capum321, And I'm looking at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/qingy
[23:30] <capum321> Yank i don't have /etc/event.d/*  tty's to edit
[23:31] <capum321> do you understand now?
[23:31] <YankDownUnder> capum321, On 16.04 it's in /etc/apm/event.d
[23:31] <capum321> let me check
[23:32] <capum321> no, i have apparmor apparmor.d and apt
[23:32] <capum321> so i should use other method?
[23:33] <YankDownUnder> capum321, The "ttyX" that "appears" to be referenced for "qingy" are in /etc/init/ => tty1 and above...as in "tty1.conf" - but in looking at "qingy" it doesn't appear to be the same reference...
[23:34] <YankDownUnder> capum321, The page referenced was also LAST updated in 2015.
[23:37] <YankDownUnder> capum321, In looking at: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qingy => I'm trying to find/locate exactly where the edits to "ttyX" are supposed to be - as they're not where you are looking...but they'd still have to be pertinent to the system - as the package was built for 17.04
[23:37] <selsper> hey guys I'm wondering if you could troubleshoot this issue I'm having
[23:37] <selsper> http://i.imgur.com/33JFC0r.jpg
[23:37] <capum321> ok that's great
[23:38] <bazhang> selsper, dont do that here
[23:39] <YankDownUnder> capum321, Patience...I'm downloading the source code to read the "README" (imagine that!)
[23:39] <selsper_> k
[23:40] <YankDownUnder> capum321, According to the README in the source code, ANY and ALL configurations are in /etc/qingy...
[23:42] <kojak> YankDownUnder: Guess what : it worked !!!!!
[23:44] <YankDownUnder> capum321, I'd honestly suggest emailing the dev for "better installation instructions" as the ones provided aren't quite, well, "clear as mud" => Michele Noberasco <michele.noberasco@tiscali.it>
[23:44] <YankDownUnder> kojak, Buy yourself a donut. A vegetarian donut. With no meat. And a coffee.
[23:46] <elky> selsper_: if you've been trying here for 3 weeks without luck then you should probably look at different places to get help instead of memeing at us
[23:46] <selsper_> well
[23:46] <selsper_> i did
[23:46] <selsper_> hence the meme
[23:47] <selsper_> not the sort of trolly wollop to try in once place and then complain
[23:47] <elky> selsper_: such as their actual forums.
[23:48] <selsper_> wat
[23:48] <selsper_> i did post their
[23:48] <elky> selsper_: runescape has forums
[23:48] <selsper_> yeah i know
[23:48] <selsper_> been on them since 12 yrs ffs
[23:48] <elky> selsper_: so why would you think that a linux distro support channel would know better?
[23:48] <selsper_> omg
[23:48] <selsper_> w/e
[23:49] <selsper_> so done with trolls
[23:49]  * elky raises an eyebrow
[23:50] <selsper_> there*
[23:50] <kojak> YankDownUnder: I am back
[23:51] <rizonz> can anyone tell me what package contains the perl module URI::Escape ?
[23:52] <dax> rizonz: liburl-perl
[23:52] <dax> rizonz: liburi-perl *
[23:53] <rizonz> dax: all in ?
[23:53] <dax> rizonz: the list of files in liburi-perl is http://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/all/liburi-perl/filelist . It includes URI::Escape.
[23:54] <kojak> YankDownUnder: thank you for your help and for your words :)
[23:54] <kojak> and thanks to all other who assisted
[23:54] <rizonz> dax: thanks!