[00:05] <Krent> !Ook Svante Paabo - Neanderthal Man- In Search of Lost Genomes (epub).rar
[00:07] <YankDownUnder> Krent, "Ook" is a word spoken by the Librarian at the Unseen University and does not apply to Ubuntu.
[00:26] <john__> has anyone tested the nvidia CUDA dev kit cuda-repo-ubuntu1604-8-0-local-ga2_8.0.61-1_amd64.deb on ubuntu 17.04?
[00:28] <orlock> AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!
[00:28] <bazhang> wrong channel orlock
[00:28] <analyser> orlock: lol
[00:28] <YankDownUnder> orlock, Only after 11am can you state that - according to NSW laws.
[00:29] <orlock> bazhang:  *** Noodlewitt [textual@49.24.70.115.static.exetel.com.au] joined channel #ubuntu
[00:29] <orlock> bazhang: Nope, write channel, just people not paying attention
[00:29] <bazhang> orlock, take the chatter elsewhere please
[00:30] <orlock> no u.
[00:44] <sambagirl> evening. i have a 500+ gig micro sd card and i wanted to know whether i can modify the partition and/or make multiple partitions? reason is the laptop internal sdd is only 32gig and windows 10 takes up most of that and i prefer not to use linux on usb like i am now.
[00:45] <sambagirl> so instead of dual boot, i could just select the boot menu
[00:45] <sambagirl>  i set up legacy
[00:46] <lunagirl> partitions have mostly nothing to do with devices, its up to the os
[00:46] <YankDownUnder> sambagirl, The BIOS on the machine would be the limiting factor. Aside from that, you should be able to treat a microSD the same as a normal drive.
[00:47] <lunagirl> well, yeah, unless you have a very old BIOS
[00:47] <sambagirl> i'll give it a show with a smaller one just for the results. what i was thinking was to resize the micro sd actually, but not sure about that.
[00:48] <sambagirl> shot not show
[00:48] <YankDownUnder> I've used "microSD" cards for boot/system/system rescues....they're convenient.
[00:49] <lunagirl> it depends ultimatly what you want to do
[00:49] <sambagirl> yes i agree and less chance of breaking off in a usb port
[00:49] <YankDownUnder> I've broken a few USB's...er...actually...more than a few...WAY more than a few...
[00:49] <lunagirl> how did you manage that
[00:50] <sambagirl> the internal ssd is so small. 32gig. win10 takes up almost of it. i have been using linux for a really long time. i prefer it.
[00:50] <YankDownUnder> lunagirl, I used to drink like a fish and I would go "apey" on delicate machinery/parts/walls/guitars
[00:50] <sambagirl> laptops fall and or you bang up against the usb and ther you go
[00:51] <sambagirl> hey thanks let me see what  i come up with. chao
[00:51] <lunagirl> YankDownUnder: nothing like a drunken bliss of the moment
[00:51] <YankDownUnder> sambagirl, The BIOS on that machine - is it capable of reading the 500gb microSD?
[00:54] <lunagirl> sambagirl: its like this, my main is a 14 year old P4 and it happily reads a 2 ter USB disk, like Yank says, check the BIOS and what its specs can do
[00:55] <orlock> lunagirl: damn, go and buy a cheap i3, just for the power savings!
[00:55] <lunagirl> orlock: it costs $9 to run 24/7 a month and I can live with it
[00:56] <lunagirl> besides, it would mean i actually had to buy new stuff which i prefer not to do
[00:56] <lunagirl> why buy stuff when you can get it free from a dumpster
[00:56] <orlock> Which is what i do
[00:57] <orlock> but if you were doing that, why would you still have a 14 year old PC?
[00:57] <orlock> i7 2600's have just started becoming EOL here btw
[00:57] <lunagirl> ill have it until something else turns up
[00:58] <lunagirl> orlock: i dont need something bigger, this one serves me good
[00:58] <YankDownUnder> "Buying" is a sin.
[00:59] <lunagirl> yeah
[01:00] <lunagirl> lol, the sticker says, designed for windows xp, it runs customized ubuntu happily
[01:02] <YankDownUnder> If it's got stickers still on it, um...it might be too new...
[01:02] <lunagirl> YankDownUnder: imagine it was pulled straight out of a DC
[01:03] <lunagirl> i just happened to be near by when they dumped it
[01:08] <YankDownUnder> XP runs great in a VB-vm...just made me test that...(forgot I had it nearly)
[01:10] <lunagirl> i would like qemu for virt if it wasnt such a bitch on having to bridge host and guest
[01:11] <lunagirl> its worthless if out of the box you cant connect from host to guest
[01:11] <YankDownUnder> ...hence Virtualbox...
[01:11] <lunagirl> yes
[01:12] <lunagirl> which is what i use
[01:12] <YankDownUnder> It's free, it always - ALWAYS works...and it's free. Did I mention it's free?
[01:14] <pd1> yes, its free. but ALWAYS !!!!1111elfeins seems too much
[01:14] <lunagirl> you might have mentioned it once or twice
[01:15] <YankDownUnder> Every now and again I give "qemu" a shot, but it requires the patience of a rocket scientist to get to work properly...and I don't have that much time...I have coffee to drink and ciggies to smoke.
[01:16] <lunagirl> YankDownUnder: sounds like the average human
[01:17] <lunagirl> i havent had problems with it or the virt manager, its just this stupid kink not having frame grabs to enable the host and the guest to talk which gets me
[01:17] <lunagirl> must be some gray and neck beard decision
[01:18] <YankDownUnder> They'll work out a nice "GUI" for configuration sometime in the hopefully near future...(two years from now)
[01:18] <lunagirl> its called virt manager and its actually nicer than virtualbox
[01:18] <pd1> virsh is a nice gui ;)
[01:18] <lunagirl> yeah
[01:19] <YankDownUnder> I've used VirtManager (MANGLER) and still not quite happy...either which, I resolve the issues that require resolution with the already established tools (Virtualbox)...and all that that entails.
[01:19] <lunagirl> a glass of wine tastes different to everyone
[01:20] <YankDownUnder> I get presented with an issue to resolve - I resolve the issue. Given the tools I have...and have direct experience with...and keeping it all K.I.S.S. in case I get hit by a bus.
[01:20] <pd1> the nice thing with virtualbox is that you have no trouble exporting appliances and carry them around to friends/whatever
[01:21] <YankDownUnder> pd1, "Friends" - what is that? Is that a new tool? New application? New fad? What are these "friends" you talk about? ;)
[01:22] <lunagirl> except when you try to run openbsd with no extensions in the cpu
[01:22] <lunagirl> level of disk corruption is hillarious
[01:24] <YankDownUnder> That just made me curious about building a nice OpenBSD image for VB...
[01:24] <lunagirl> dont try it without virtual extensions in the cpu which almost all cpus have today
[01:25] <lunagirl> openbsd is imao a long overdue fad, it works yes, but usability, no
[01:26] <lunagirl> maybe as a frontend ssh server but nothing else
[01:26] <YankDownUnder> I might could use it for something entirely productive (IMHO)
[01:26] <lunagirl> good for you
[01:30] <capum321> hello
[01:30] <pynki> hi
[01:30] <YankDownUnder> capum321, Did you sort out your issues with "qingy"?
[01:31] <lunagirl> hi
[01:33] <lunagirl> sco is funny cause its its speaks funny, like the security mechanism though
[01:33] <lunagirl> and it only needs 64 mb to run
[01:33] <YankDownUnder> SCO has always bee "aloof and robotic"
[01:34] <lunagirl> yeah, its very clear on user hostility
[01:35] <YankDownUnder> "User hostility" = "Customer Support"
[01:36] <lunagirl> and they wonder why they are at the bottom
[01:36] <lunagirl> been toying around with the openserver on max security settings, its nice as such but very single minded
[01:38] <lunagirl> and the ssh server cant talk security for jack
[01:39] <YankDownUnder> Secure = OS/2 Warp 3 Server + LAN Manager. Secure.
[01:41] <implite> Hi YankDownUnder
[01:42] <lunagirl> YankDownUnder: are you going for the new release?
[01:46] <lunagirl> anyone here have experience with cpulimit?
[01:48] <YankDownUnder> implite, For experimenting - in a VM, yes. For actual live production? No. Not on your life.
[01:49] <lunagirl> im not having luck, i shoot a process with 20% but it still takes up cpu like normal
[01:50] <elky> YankDownUnder: lunagirl can you limit discussion here to specific ubuntu support (ubuntu support does not include chitchat about what you're considering running in a vm). we have #ubuntu-offtopic for non ubuntu support discussion.
[01:50] <lunagirl> elky: sure
[01:52] <lunagirl> im just trying to figure out why my ubuntu install is not responding as one of the programs in the repositories promises
[01:52] <lunagirl> point taken though
[01:52] <YankDownUnder> DNS?
[01:54] <pynki> you are limition on a running process or start it with the limits?
[01:54] <lunagirl> hey, i was told to shut up or leave to off topic
[01:55] <lunagirl> i do know its ubuntu specific cause ive not seen this in gentoo
[01:55] <YankDownUnder> https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-limit-cpu-usage-of-a-process-with-cpulimit-debian-ubuntu (on topic)
[01:55] <pynki> https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-limit-cpu-usage-with-cpulimit-on-ubuntu-linux
[01:55] <pynki> more detailed
[01:56] <pynki> the scoutapp link next? :D
[02:03] <pynki> is there a convinient command to add keys to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys from the same machine?
[02:03] <lunagirl> oh, to hell with it, having a 20 year old grey beard stifle chat during the graveyard hours, not worth it
[02:04] <Aginor> pynki: ssh-copy-id
[02:04] <YankDownUnder> pynki, "Convenient" as in...?
[02:04] <pynki> does that work on localhost?
[02:04] <pynki> as in "one liner"
[02:05] <Aginor> it installs the user's keys on the remoteuser@remotehost
[02:05] <Aginor> where remotehost can be localhost
[02:06] <YankDownUnder> Learning something new everyday - SO, Aginor - this being said, I can copy the keys I have locally here - to a remote machine (one of my remote servers)...yes - is this the case?
[02:06] <pynki> ssh-copy-id does that, yes
[02:07] <pynki> thx Aginor, my fault was that sshd is limited to an external ip address
[02:08] <analyser> hey guys, does anyone know a VCS that manages diffs word-by-word instead of line-by-line?
[02:09] <YankDownUnder> I assumed that all VCS was "word by word"...
[02:09] <FishPencil> Why are users who are not  the owner, group, or other for a folder able to go one level in? For example, usr1 is able to see inside /home/usr2 and /home/usr3
[02:10] <FishPencil> The home folders all have drwx------ permissions
[02:10] <YankDownUnder> FishPencil, The possibility could be that "usr1" and "usr2" have admin rights - but not necessarily rights - as root - to do anything further...?
[02:11] <pynki> is the "others" permission 0 FishPencil, or is that a philisophical question about user rights in linux home dirs? the "why" confuses me a bit...
[02:11] <pynki> and i my eyes users are always owner,group or other
[02:12] <FishPencil> The users are only part of their group
[02:13] <pynki> drwx------  6 user user 4096 May  2 12:41 user/
[02:13] <pynki> [vm-dev-server] root [/home]# ll user/
[02:13] <pynki> total 48
[02:13] <pynki> same here...
[02:13] <stoner19> is there an Ubuntu Server distro for Raspberry Pi 2B? I don't need the desktop environment
[02:14] <john__> uninstall the desktop environment
[02:14] <john__> and probably uninstall 100 apps the pi comes with that you don't need on your server
[02:15] <stoner19> yeah, that doesn't seem to be the proper way to go about this
[02:15] <pynki> john__, that can take hours to get rid of everything that is a desktop program
[02:15] <john__> write a script so you can do it again every time you deploy the hardware
[02:15] <stoner19> server would be better
[02:15] <stoner19> if only I knew how to write said script...
[02:16] <john__> you can probably deploy the same script on any pi distro
[02:16] <pynki> stoner19, have a look at these scripts, https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst, you might be able to let it download ubuntu instead of raspbian
[02:16] <stoner19> awesome pynki thank you
[02:16] <john__> that way you always have an easy way to get a distro even on a pi that has not been invented yet
[02:17] <stoner19> was hoping for Ubuntu as I'm more familiar with it
[02:17] <pynki> stoner19, dont knwo why you need a ubuntu, these scripts will give you a minimal raspbian.
[02:17] <john__> I like the idea of buying a pi kit pre flashed
[02:17] <john__> micro sd out of the box always works
[02:17] <pynki> minimal as in minimal ;)
[02:17] <capum321> hello does 17.04 run with systemd?
[02:18] <pynki> yes
[02:18] <capum321> in previous version which is the program?
[02:19] <Jordan_U> capum321: Before Ubuntu switched to systemd for init it used upstart for init. What are you trying to accomplish?
[02:20] <capum321> i am trying to make qingy work
[02:20] <Aginor> YankDownUnder: it copies the public key, not the private keys
[02:20] <YankDownUnder> Aginor, Ah...hmm...noted...
[02:21] <Aginor> YankDownUnder: more explicitly, it installs them in the authorized_keys file on the remote host, allowing you to do key-based authentication instead of password based
[02:21] <pynki> or besides password based
[02:22] <YankDownUnder> Aginor, Roger that.
[02:23] <pynki> but a 'cat key.pub >> authorized_keys' will work too i assume :D
[02:24] <Aginor> pynki: it would, and you can write a scriptlet to do it all for you easy enough
[02:24] <Aginor> it's just a little convenience command
[02:26] <Jordan_U> capum321: Do *not* try to use upstart in Ubuntu 17.04.
[02:27] <capum321> Jordan_U: i am supposed to edit a file that exec agetty tty1-6 and replace it to qingy
[02:27] <capum321> with*
[02:27] <capum321> Jordan_U: what is the file in 17.04 ?
[02:28] <capum321> which*
[02:28] <YankDownUnder> capum321, Have you asked the developer about proper instructions for "qingy" as I posted?
[02:28] <orlock> gettys were traditionally run from inittab, no idea about 17.0.4 though
[02:29] <capum321> YankDownUnder: the manual was correct then
[02:29] <capum321> will check
[02:29] <YankDownUnder> All of this for a "themed" console tty...hmm...
[02:30] <capum321> there is no inittab file in /etc
[02:30] <YankDownUnder> capum321, /etc/init
[02:31] <orlock> capum321: yeah, just saw
[02:31] <orlock> damn they really went all-in with systemd, fuck that
[02:31] <orlock> they broke unix
[02:31] <capum321> YankDownUnder: neither there is
[02:32] <YankDownUnder> orlock, The author admits clearly that this is NOT an actual functional or useful "application" or replacement for getty...however...I digress...I suggested the code be downloaded - which I actually did - against my better judgement - and out of curiosity. The instructions - well, plainly suck.
[02:33] <capum321> and you wanted me to have a discussion with this kind of person
[02:34] <YankDownUnder> capum321, You're wanting to use a program written by someone...someone that didn't really give proper instructions for installation (on 16.04 or above)...and you don't want to contact the person that wrote the program - but want to get the program to work by asking everyone and their brother how to get the program to run...hmm...I smell a bit of illogic in that.
[02:35] <capum321> it was a joke
[02:35] <YankDownUnder> Yes. A joke. Like mustard gas and nuclear bombs. Yes. Coolbeans.
[02:36] <capum321> great i am paranoid 1 you paranoid 2
[02:36] <implite> Bah LOLOLOL
[02:37] <YankDownUnder> I survived to 54 by being slightly - if not more - paranoid than most...hmm... :)
[02:37] <implite> you guys are all wacky
[02:37] <YankDownUnder> implite, Zackly.
[02:37] <fermulator> irc
[02:37] <implite> Rofl
[02:38] <analyser> YankDownUnder: afaik, most of them compare line-by-line. :/
[02:38] <YankDownUnder> analyser, Didn't know that...
[02:42] <analyser> YankDownUnder: Me neither :/ I'm trying to reproduce to word review feature with latex file, it's been a pain in the a**!
[02:46] <tubal> I'm really tuning in late to the  broader systemd story out there. I hadn't even looked into what 16.10 uses; I assumed upstart.
[02:47] <YankDownUnder> analyser, I'm sure that someone has thought this through - more than one someone - and I'm sure there is a resolution to this VCS issue - perchance to research and dig...
[02:49] <Jordan_U> capum321: I'm confused. Why do you not want to ask the developer exactly?
[02:49] <YankDownUnder> Jordan_U, ...the instructions given are unclear and do not fit the system structure of Ubuntu 16.04 and above...
[02:50] <gr8kodr> having issues with mysql-*-5.7.18 and ubuntu 16.04.2, will removing installed components also remove any databases, or will they still be there after a reinstall?
[02:50] <analyser> YankDownUnder: i'll keep searching. But believe me, it's not been easy by no means. The best lead that I got is to use wdiff with ATOM wdiff extension.
[02:51] <YankDownUnder> analyser, Egads...
[02:52] <YankDownUnder> analyser, And you've asked in #latex for the same?
[02:53] <analyser> YankDownUnder: Thats a good idea, I'll try it!
[02:58] <capum321> "<Jordan_U> capum321: I'm confused." YankDownUnder: see what you did?
[02:59] <capum321> Jordan_U: truely, this information already exists on web, i just have to find and parse it
[03:00] <YankDownUnder> capum321, It's my duty to confuse and obfuscate.
[03:08] <vivsoni> hi I am unable to install ubuntu package 'libsystemd-dev'
[03:08] <capum321> lol
[03:08] <vivsoni> it gives error "E: Unable to locate package libsystemd-dev"
[03:08] <Jordan_U> capum321: Why are you sure that this information exists on the web? What is the downside to asking the developer?
[03:08] <capum321> talking the devil
[03:09] <capum321> waiting
[03:09] <capum321> i assume it is through email?
[03:09] <capum321> hate emails
[03:09] <YankDownUnder> vivsoni, Is that the correct name for the package?
[03:09] <vivsoni> i have found i link in which it states that its dependency package is DELETED link "https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/trusty/main/proposed/libsystemd-daemon-dev"
[03:10] <YankDownUnder> vivsoni, I just did a search - "libsystemd-dev"
[03:10] <vivsoni> YankDownUnder, yes the package name is correct
[03:10] <vivsoni> did you found that package
[03:10] <vivsoni> ?
[03:10] <YankDownUnder> vivsoni, Yes - it's "libsystemd-dev"
[03:10] <vivsoni> i am using 14.04 trusty ubuntu
[03:11] <YankDownUnder> vivsoni, ah...well...can't quite help you with that...using 16.04 here...
[03:11] <vivsoni> ohk
[03:11] <kode54> systemd wasn't introduced to LTS until 16.04
[03:11] <YankDownUnder> That makes more sense...so it'd be time to upgrade/update...hmm...
[03:12] <kostkon> !info libsystemd-dev 14.04
[03:13] <kostkon> !info libsystemd-dev trusty
[03:13] <TLoFP> Hi, how good is the ZFS support in Ubuntu 17.04?
[03:17] <TLoFP> I have to decide between Motherboard RAID 0 and ZFS, any suggestions?
[03:17] <Bashing-om> vivsoni: old but maybe still valid : http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-and-test-systemd-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ .
[03:17] <YankDownUnder> TLoFP, Patience. Have you asked in #ubuntu-server ?
[03:18] <TLoFP> YankDownUnder: now I was unaware of the mentioned room
[03:18] <YankDownUnder> TLoFP, Since ZFS is more conducive to "server" application - yeah - probably a better place to ask...
[03:19] <TLoFP> thanks YankDownUnder it has been a long time since I have been on the Ubuntu platform... glad to be back though
[03:20] <YankDownUnder> TLoFP, Coolbeans...and understandable...(go with what works and has the most easily accessible support) :)
[03:20] <TLoFP> YankDownUnder: Yea, I really want to do this one right ;D
[03:21] <TLoFP> The Ubuntu-server is actually a VM but it will have two physical disks attached to it.
[03:27] <Rakko> I keep getting an error when trying to install a package, and it's not telling me what I need to know to fix it. "lldb : Depends: lldb-3.8 (>= 3.8~) but it is not going to be installed"
[03:28] <Rakko> how do I actually get lldb (of any version) installed?
[03:28] <Rakko> "it is not going to be installed" is... well, not helpful.
[03:29] <YankDownUnder> Rakko, What package are you trying to install...?
[03:29] <Rakko> lldb
[03:29] <SlidingHorn> Rakko, no...what's requiring lldb?
[03:29] <Rakko> I'm trying to install lldb.
[03:30] <kode54> I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest "circular dependency"
[03:30] <Rakko> (hmm, now I see that I have a version of it already; not the current one, but maybe good enough. But its version number is added to its /usr/bin name.)
[03:31] <Rakko> that message is followed by "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[03:31] <Rakko> how do I view my "held broken packages"?
[03:32] <YankDownUnder> Rakko, "sudo apt-get -f install" => does that fix it?
[03:32] <Rakko> no (but it did suggest a package I no longer need)
[03:34] <robattila256> do you guys know a file manager that shows image preview on the folder and not just the picture thumbnail?
[03:34] <Delphin> anyone use webvirtcloud? having a error whenever I click instances "Error: Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Permission denied "
[03:36] <Rakko> oh. dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[03:36] <Rakko> ... which yields nothing.
[03:41] <Rakko> ok, I removed lldb-3.5 and it worked
[03:43] <aminio> :O
[04:24] <pynki> YankDownUnder, still awake? are you able to set the monitor count in you ubuntu hosted virtualbox VMs?
[04:24] <YankDownUnder> pynki, Yes, matey...you are...
[04:25] <pynki> nice!
[04:25]  * pynki is moving the windows install back into the vm where it belongs
[04:26] <YankDownUnder> pynki, It's useful - THAT being said, make sure to install the "guest additions" and get all the vid stuff straight prior to playing around with it...but yeah, it's quite nice...(read, understand, play, test, understand more, read more)
[04:26] <pynki> YankDownUnder, before i trash the windows install i needed to know :D
[04:27] <pynki> but well, as i just figured out - i need hyper-v :o
[04:27] <pynki> so no vm-windows :/
[04:27] <YankDownUnder> pynki, I thought that any Windows installation was already trash - even prior to it's installation...hmm...
[04:28] <pynki> YankDownUnder, yes they are - its feeling like being trapped in the horror house - but some thing, even they are just a few, can not bedone with linux atm
[04:28] <YankDownUnder> pynki, Unfortunately that is true...for the moment...
[04:31] <capum321> helo
[04:31] <implite> Lol i dont need windows for anything now
[04:31] <pynki> YankDownUnder, i could by a Mac! but thats even more stupid then running windows
[04:32] <capum321> how to check if I am using xinitrc or xsession?
[04:32] <YankDownUnder> pynki, Um...I've got Macs...rather happy with them...
[04:32] <implite> Why would you ever want any winblows
[04:32] <pynki> OS: Windows 7 SP1+, 8, 10; Mac OS X 10.8+. because of these requirements...
[04:34] <pynki> YankDownUnder, jsut go a solid new laptop, don't want to spend another XYZV dollars on a nice shiny mac :D
[04:34]  * YankDownUnder looks at the 2011 MBP chugging away on the desk
[04:35] <YankDownUnder> pynki, Yersh...yersh...horrible investment these Macs...
[04:35] <pynki> YankDownUnder, with enough heat you could make the mg-alloy burn like a flare i think if it rains for wekks and you need to attract helicopers...
[04:36] <YankDownUnder> pynki, hehehehehe...strewth
[04:36] <capum321> i have a variable $TERM set to screen, where is it place so I can change to tmux?
[04:36] <implite> capum321: I think you can use capum321
[04:36] <implite> oops
[04:36] <implite> xdpyinfo
[04:37] <implite> xpdyinfo | grep version
[04:37] <implite> that would be better
[04:38] <implite> to check what you are using
[04:40] <implite> x11 -version
[04:40] <implite> also
[04:41] <pynki> capum321, how to you set it to screen?
[04:42] <capum321> i didn't
[04:43] <capum321> ubuntu is madness
[04:43] <capum321> mayhem chaos lunetunes
[04:45] <YankDownUnder> If a person is doing something WITH something that is not really MEANT for something - and complains that it's insane...where exactly does the insanity lie?
[04:45] <tubal>  /msg NickServ identify fr33#n0D3#c0M)
[04:45] <tubal> dammit.
[04:45] <pynki> tubal: nailed it!
[04:46] <YankDownUnder> tubal, Yersh...you just broadcast your password...reckon it's time to change it...like NOW...hmm...
[04:46] <pynki> like all of them
[04:46] <tubal> meaningful whitespace. A charming feature, I'm sure.
[04:47] <pynki>    /msg pynki test
[04:47] <pynki> yeah.
[04:47] <capum321> i can't believe this guy
[04:48] <capum321> what is the .bash_profile in ubuntu?
[04:49] <capum321> .bashrc?
[04:49] <YankDownUnder> capum321, You've literally and consistently asked questions that are easily "Googled" - um...is your "Google" broke, perchance? Or have you been introduced to "Google" yet?
[04:52] <pynki> capum321, kind of another .bashrc
[04:53] <capum321> i just setup bloated terminal emulator with browser, tmux, irc client, bash, i am getting overwhelmed... just doing final configurations for X
[04:54] <capum321> working with keyboard shortcuts on each
[04:54] <capum321> daaam nut job
[04:55] <capum321> we are just so used to the mouse
[04:55] <capum321> it lacks brain power
[04:56] <tubal>  /msg NickServ identify fr33#n0D3#c0M)
[04:56] <tubal> oh ffs.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> tubal: change your password now :p
[04:56] <YankDownUnder> tubal, Um...yeah...ya did it again...
[04:57] <tubal> Sorry. history....   I was trying to edit the line in my history, hit return instead.
[04:57] <SwedeMike> good password though
[04:57] <SwedeMike> or well
[04:57] <SwedeMike> I hope you don't use that strategy on other sites
[04:57] <capum321> actually is .profile for the record
[05:00] <tubal> SwedeMike, I usually just user 'password' or '12345678'. Never 'swordfish' though, everyone know that.
[05:00] <tubal> use*
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> use the #ubuntu-discuss channel guys
[05:12] <w6equj5> Hi all, I'm trying to create a launcher for an app I installed with Wine, but for some reason it doesn't work. When I open a terminal in the folder of the .exe, "wine JRS.exe" works without a problem. But when I try "wine 'absolutepathtomy.exe'", it finds the program but the result is not the same and the program crashes. Any ideas?
[05:13] <YankDownUnder> w6equj5, You might want to ask in #wine-hq ?
[05:13] <w6equj5> YankDownUnder, ah yes didn't think of that thanks.
[05:14] <fugee> i deleted a directory that was a symlink to another director, i didnt expect any files to be deleted
[05:15] <fugee> i deleted a directory that was a symlink to another directory, i didnt expect any files to be deleted
[05:15] <Ben64> fugee: yes you said that
[05:16] <fugee> typo in the first
[05:16] <Ben64> is there a question that goes along with that?
[05:17] <w6equj5> Is there a way, when creating a launcher, to launch a command from a specific directory rather than launching a command writing the absolute path?
[05:18] <Ben64> w6equj5: use a script
[05:20] <w6equj5> Ben64, should the script make a couple of 'cd fhdsfhds' and then just launch the program?
[05:21] <Ben64> well you should only need one cd command
[05:21] <w6equj5> Ben64, yes sure OK just wanted to make sure cd, then launch the command was the way to go
[05:21] <w6equj5> thanks
[05:25] <capum321> hello again
[05:26] <capum321> where is the variables set placed?
[05:26] <capum321> give me all locations you can remember
[05:30] <geirha> what variable?
[05:41] <capum321> there is a particular on set in this system $TERM  ( screen )
[05:41] <lgc> Hi. When I click on the file manager icon in Unity nothing happens (Ubuntu 16.04). What gives? Thanks.
[05:41] <capum321> which is native to this system
[05:44] <capum321> native from the installation
[05:45] <geirha> TERM is set by the terminal emulator
[05:48] <zikuto_> hello :)
[05:51] <root____4> hello
[05:52] <root____4> hello
[05:53] <YankDownUnder> It's not a good idea to be on IRC - or on the net - when you're logged in as "root".
[05:53] <root____4> exit
[05:53] <root____4> clear
[05:53] <d1eqw> is it possible to run compiz with unity
[05:56] <d1eqw> wow conpiz so beautiful
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !compiz | d1eqw
[06:07] <d1eqw> but unity is a window manager too, could they play nice together
[06:10] <EriC^^> d1eqw: unity is a compiz plug in
[06:18] <TheDabMaster> 😂👌😱😍💩💯
[06:33] <zap0> just tried to start an app that listens on port80,  but it has "listening error"    what magic do i need to do for it to use port80 ?
[06:35] <hateball> zap0: you need to run as root for ports <1024
[06:35] <hateball> well, root privs
[06:35] <hateball> aka sudo
[06:36] <zap0> so if i was to run    sudo my_port_80_using_app      that shold be suffecient ?
[06:36] <zap0> should/
[06:37] <hateball> zap0: probably
[06:39] <zap0> it's saying  my user is not in the sudoers file.
[06:40] <zap0> how is it that apache runs?
[06:41] <auronandace> !lamp
[06:42] <CrazyTux> is Lubuntu based on lxde or lxqt?
[06:46] <CrazyTux> hello..
[06:46] <auronandace> CrazyTux: lxde, but they are preparin to switc to lxqt
[06:46] <yarod39> hola
[06:46] <CrazyTux> is lxqt lighter or heavier than lxde?
[06:47] <CrazyTux> I am using Lubuntu 17.04 on my old laptop now.
[06:47] <CrazyTux> does it have lxde or lxqt?
[06:47] <auronandace> CrazyTux: lxde, i just told you
[06:47] <CrazyTux> ok
[06:48] <ducasse> CrazyTux: you know you are banned here
[06:48] <zap0> anyone recommend a serial port terminal program ?
[06:49] <CrazyTux> how can I get unbanned?
[07:17] <BlackDex> i have some strange issues with trying to update. I get "  Could not resolve 'ppa.launchpad.net'
[07:17] <BlackDex> while if i do ping, host, dig, nslookup etc... it all resolves
[07:17] <BlackDex> tried dns-clean, changed dns etc..
[07:18] <hateball> BlackDex: is that the full error output
[07:19] <BlackDex> yea, the rest is just the line of which repo
[07:19] <BlackDex> like webupd8, wireshark etc...
[07:21] <BlackDex> i suspect it has something to do with the localdns
[07:21] <BlackDex> since if i strace i see that the calls go to the localdns 127.0.1.1
[07:22] <ducasse> BlackDex: ubuntu version?
[07:22] <BlackDex> 16.04
[07:26] <BlackDex> if i strace the dnsmasq process, i see that it tries to check the external DNS, but then fails
[07:33] <BlackDex> i see DNS requests for SRV _http._tcp.ppa.launchpad.net
[07:51] <pennTeller> Hi guys! has anybody gotten the trackpad to work just as well as on the mac side in ubuntu 17.04 or 16.04? Mouse works but cant get palm rejection to work
[07:53] <akik> pennTeller: i don't remember if this helps with palm rejection but i'm now able to keep two fingers on the clickpad after installing xserver-xorg-input-libinput. otherwise the two fingers would make it so that the mouse pointer wouldn't move at all
[07:53] <pennTeller> akik: thanks a lot I will give that a shot!
[08:02] <pynkii> anyone has a running ubuntu minimal in a hyper-v vm?
[08:03] <BlackDex> hateball, ducasse i have found a solution
[08:03] <BlackDex> Acquire::EnableSrvRecords "false";
[08:03] <BlackDex> put that in a apt.conf.d file and it works
[08:05] <bitfawkes> hello, how I can add a directory containing bin file in /usr/local/bin/foo for user foo?
[08:08] <ducasse> bitfawkes: you want to add it to the user's PATH, is that what you mean? /usr/local/bin should already be in the PATH by default.
[08:10] <bitfawkes> I would like the user foo to have access to his own binary subdirectory folder located in /usr/local/bin/foo/
[08:11] <ducasse> bitfawkes: why not in ~/bin? that is the convention for user specific binaries and scripts
[08:12] <bitfawkes> cause more I need to split binary in a folder accessible just to his user
[08:12] <bitfawkes> binary with the same name
[08:13] <ducasse> ~/bin _is_ accessible just to that user, if you disable read/exe perms for others
[08:14] <bitfawkes> I cant leave it in home folder all file have to been reached by root
[08:15] <ducasse> root can read files in a user's homedir
[08:19] <bitfawkes> and have tab copletion in this case?
[08:19] <bitfawkes> and have tab completion in this case?
[08:20] <ducasse> of course
[08:20] <ducasse> just add it to root's path
[08:26] <r0ckh0pper> hi all
[08:26] <cashew> Yo
[08:27] <r0ckh0pper> can someone tell me how to rotate a desktop-wallpaper 90 degrees clock/counter-clockwise? Cant find this function in the gui
[08:27] <r0ckh0pper> ?
[08:27] <Tuor> Hi, I'm looking for Back in Time developpers. Does someone knoe where to find? I have searched for a channel with a similar name, but didn't find any.
[08:27] <r0ckh0pper> hey cashew
[08:27] <cashew> Could you open the wallpaper in Gimp and edit it?
[08:27] <r0ckh0pper> the original is already aligned right
[08:28] <r0ckh0pper> but once I use it as a background it rotates it
[08:28] <cashew> Huh, that is different. Is it only that one file?
[08:29] <r0ckh0pper> hang on a sec just second checking with gimp to be sure
[08:30] <ducasse> Tuor: 'apt show backintime-common | grep ^Homepage'
[08:32] <r0ckh0pper> that did the trick thanks! apparently my picture viewer rotated for visibility but did not really rotate the picture itself.
[08:32] <r0ckh0pper> :) thanks
[08:33] <cashew> No prob, Its silly stuff like that most of the time
[08:40] <Tuor> ducasse, apt-cache instead of apt and it works perfectly. Thx!
[08:50] <viktor_> I'm using "wine cmd" to run a windows .bat file. but i don't know how to navigate te a folder that has a name with whitespaces (such as "program files"). "\" like in bash doesn't work. anybody knows?
[08:51] <YankDownUnder> viktor_, You would use the quotes -> as in "Program Files" -> and you can also find out more in #wine-hq
[08:51] <ducasse> viktor_: try quoting the entire filename
[08:52] <viktor_> YankDownUnder, ducasse: Quoting doesn't work: dir "Program Files"
[08:53] <ducasse> viktor_: try #winehq
[08:55] <andywww> hi, i have a frequent need to log into a server and perform a task, I’d like to, from the ssh client, pass an argument that says ‘and when you’ve logged in, run these commands’ is this possible? I’d like to actually log into the server then run the command rather than just run it remotely from my local terminal
[08:58] <YankDownUnder> andywww, This is interesting: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18502945/how-to-execute-a-remote-command-over-ssh-with-arguments
[08:58] <pynkii> andywww, 'ssh user@host command'
[08:59] <andywww> thanks for the input
[08:59] <andywww> won’t the latter just leave me in my local terminal though?
[08:59] <qswz> skype is so much terrible on linux
[08:59] <pynkii> qswz, if thats a question: yes
[09:00] <qswz> haha
[09:00] <qswz> will try teir shitty version 5
[09:00] <qswz> in case it's better
[09:00] <YankDownUnder> qswz, There's also: https://jitsi.org/Main/Download
[09:01] <qswz> ah thnaks
[09:01] <hateball> Unless you depend on Skype specifically there's lots of alternatives
[09:01] <qswz> I'd like to use handout or something else
[09:01] <qswz> but most people I need to talk with are on skype :(
[09:02] <YankDownUnder> qswz, If "need" is a high priority, then follow the priority.
[09:03] <qswz> yes
[09:03] <qswz> work..
[09:06] <YankDownUnder> qswz, As is the nature of "monopolies" and "big corporate business" - since MS obtained Skype, they're going to make absolutely sure that if you're NOT running MS Windows, you're going to get a lower end and lower quality product/application/utility...
[09:07] <qswz> I wouldn't care a lot, if at least it didn't crash
[09:07] <pynkii> maybe they are just loosing the ability to tap into the conversations easy enough ;)
[09:07] <YankDownUnder> pynkii, Trust me - they aren't losing that ability in the least.
[09:11] <pynkii> YankDownUnder, i know. but tapping into your custom linux box than into clicki-bunti windows, you might limit ports and stuff and other wired things i heard of people do
[09:12] <YankDownUnder> pynkii, All the data streamed through Skype is held/directed on MS owned servers. It doesn't matter what ports you keep an eye on in linux...the data stream sent is interpreted/stored on MS servers.
[09:17] <pynkii> YankDownUnder, we are going off topic again :D but i think in stays in the network when the machines are behind the same public ip...
[09:17] <YankDownUnder> pynkii, you might research that...MEANWHILE, back at the ranch...
[09:18] <pynkii> YankDownUnder, i use qq - much more secure *facepalm*
[09:19] <YankDownUnder> pynkii, Facetime/iChat/iMessage here (my mom has an iMac and an iPad...I don't care about anyone vid-chatting outside of Mom and Dad) :)
[09:21] <pynkii> YankDownUnder, me too. but my boss decided that email is evil/too complicated/lame/whatever and now we are using qq for company communication. its like wechat, but wack/crap/chinese
[09:21] <pynkii> wechat is like whatsapp :D
[09:22] <YankDownUnder> pynkii, Corporate minds. Yes. I have "Wechat" on my iPhone (not for vid)
[09:23] <pynkii> you might heard of it since chinese people are invading down under :P
[09:33] <nevim> h5
[09:39] <TheEagerPadawan> hi is there an flavor of ubuntu available that has the FDE passphrase after setting your language
[09:39] <TheEagerPadawan> because it quite annoying for people who don't use qwerty
[09:41] <YankDownUnder> TheEagerPadawan, Any version of Ubuntu is able to change the keyboard layout during the installation - and after, as well...unless you're alluding to something other than that...
[09:42] <TheEagerPadawan> YankDownUnder i'm just stating the fact that you are prompted for a password for your FDE before you are prompted for your language settings
[09:45] <_ADN_> lubuntu 16.10 doesn't install on a USB drive Ubuntu 16.04 does
[09:45] <_ADN_> :(
[09:45] <_ADN_> I needed encryption and Lubuntu doesn't allow it
[09:46] <_ADN_> do not know why
[09:46] <ducasse> _ADN_: why install 16.10 now? it's soon eol.
[09:47] <_ADN_> just wanted the latest version install
[09:47] <_ADN_> (lubuntu)
[09:47] <_ADN_> anyway I install corrctly Ubuntu 16.04 with encryption on a usb
[09:47] <Ben64> latest version is 17.04, 16.04 is supported for way longer though
[09:48] <Haris> hello all
[09:48] <_ADN_> yes I saw it yesterday about 17.04
[09:48] <Haris> what's the pkg for mysql cli client utility for accessing mysql database/servers?
[09:48] <Haris> I'm on 14.04 LTS
[09:48] <FinalX> mysql-client .. ?
[09:48] <Haris> I have 5.6 installed on server side
[09:48] <Haris> hmm
[09:48] <_ADN_> apt-cache search mysql
[09:48] <_ADN_> you will see the packages there
[09:49] <FinalX> by default in most versions mysql-client and mysql-server are the meta packages to install the default version of each
[09:49] <FinalX> I don't think 14.04 was any different
[09:54] <ducasse> _ADN_: if the lubuntu installer can't set up encryption, use the alternative installer image
[09:55] <Haris> thank you all
[10:00] <Haris> directoryindex is not defined in apache 2.4.7 on 14.04 lts ?
[10:00] <Haris> do I need to install a pkg for that too ?
[10:01] <Haris> ah, I don't need to
[10:01] <Haris> its already there
[10:01] <Haris> but its not picking index.html for one vhost
[10:03] <Haris> I have index.html set for a redirect on / on a vhost in apache. this is the first vhost on it. its not redirecting
[10:03] <amoore> goodday
[10:03] <Haris> I explicitly added DirectoryIndex clause in vhost config
[10:45] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:45] <YankDownUnder> Peace
[10:55] <Haris> good day
[10:55] <Haris> directoryindex is not working on 14.04 lts apache 2.4.7
[10:56] <Haris> even after explicit mention in vhost config
[10:59] <YankDownUnder> Wouldn't that question be better answered in #ubuntu-server or in #apache ...?
[11:00] <Haris> apache guys don't know ubuntu's implementation or config of apache
[11:00] <sebsebseb> hi
[11:00] <Haris> but ubuntu-server should know exactly what is goingon
[11:00] <YankDownUnder> Haris, There appears to be blokes in the #ubuntu-server channel talking about apache based stuff...
[11:00] <Ben64> Haris: you probably didn't configure it properly
[11:00] <Haris> Ben64: Perhaps
[11:00] <Ben64> so... pastebin configs
[11:00] <Haris> dorectoryindex feature works out of the box on centos
[11:01] <Haris> plus after php install, the php index files spec should have been added through its respective config file
[11:01] <Haris> which is not showing on 14.04 lts
[11:03] <Haris> this place is only for desktop and client end support ?
[11:03] <Haris> server has been separated completely ?
[11:03] <Haris> in -server room
[11:04] <hateball> You're just more likely to get -server related questions answered there
[11:18] <KevinRatkliffe> hey
[11:19] <KevinRatkliffe> lots off pll here and now questions.. :)
[11:19] <KevinRatkliffe> I have a question or isnt they allowed here at this channel?
[11:19] <hateball> !ask | KevinRatkliffe
[11:20] <KevinRatkliffe> :) oki understood..
[11:22] <KevinRatkliffe> I have a eserver / Xserver226 IBM was planning to run a HTTP server and a nice FTP on it.. (for serving the a website) any ideas what can be nice and easy to install then?
[11:23] <Ben64> don't use ftp, use sftp
[11:23] <YankDownUnder> Er....Ubuntu server edition 16.04.2...
[11:23] <KevinRatkliffe> Er.....
[11:23] <KevinRatkliffe> ?
[11:23] <KevinRatkliffe> So u recommend server edition 16?
[11:24] <Ben64> 16.04
[11:24] <YankDownUnder> I say "Er" because the question is being asked in an Ubuntu channel...so I'd obviously recommend Ubuntu as the resolution to the issue presented... :)
[11:24] <KevinRatkliffe> Yes its ubuntu Iam planning ofc
[11:24] <KevinRatkliffe> :)
[11:25] <YankDownUnder> 16.04.2...latest and greatest. Comes with free coffee, too.
[11:25] <KevinRatkliffe> But will a new version like that support a server type like this
[11:25] <KevinRatkliffe> Kinda old server.... that why Im asking... Im a little bit newbie... Not totally
[11:25] <KevinRatkliffe> :) :)
[11:26] <YankDownUnder> I'll safely assume that since Ubuntu is being used on extremely large scale servers that it would most likely suffice.
[11:26] <YankDownUnder> It's also very easy on resource.
[11:26] <KevinRatkliffe> Very !NICE
[11:26] <KevinRatkliffe> :)
[11:26] <KevinRatkliffe> So that will run like a charm ;)
[11:27] <YankDownUnder> And you get free coffee. Granted that you have to use your own coffee and make it yourself.
[11:28] <KevinRatkliffe> I shall make all my cups myeslves
[11:28] <KevinRatkliffe> ;)
[11:28] <KevinRatkliffe> Is it GUI friendly
[11:28] <KevinRatkliffe> ?
[11:28] <YankDownUnder> The pricing is quite nice. $0, 100% financing, $0 up front - and no monthly payments.
[11:29] <YankDownUnder> KevinRatkliffe, If you wish to use a GUI, feel free. I personally install Webmin - there are PPA's for it...but there are other options. You can install a window manager or complete desktop on the server if you so desire.
[11:30] <KevinRatkliffe> Yeah Ubuntu is kinda fantastic in pricing
[11:31] <Ellery> Good morning. Wondering if anyone has any ideas about this. I installed Ubuntu Budgie on a new PC and the system would freeze upon login once desktop loaded. Tried install numerous times with same result. I then decided to try Xubuntu, worked without a hitch. Any ideas?
[11:31] <hateball> KevinRatkliffe: Ubuntu Server by default has no GUI
[11:32] <KevinRatkliffe> Ok so what do u recommend for GUI to start with for kinda newbies.. to build up easy HTTP/Apache server / Mysql, and SFtp is it like package installer into it..?
[11:32] <EriC^^> Ellery: try just starting xserver from a terminal, or check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:33] <hateball> KevinRatkliffe: for mysql there is phpmyadmin if you want a web gui
[11:33] <Ben64> KevinRatkliffe: you should just install ubuntu server, you don't need a gui it won't really help for doing server stuff
[11:33] <hateball> KevinRatkliffe: for apache... you'll want to learn do manage it using cli
[11:33] <YankDownUnder> Ellery, "Budgie" is still in "early stages" - the next thing to consider is graphics driver. Xubuntu (XFce4) is very easy on graphics. And mature. If you really really want "Budgie", you could try replacing the "display manager" (login GUI) with lightdm - and also try to make sure you have the proper graphics driver...otherwise, since Xubuntu is working nicely for you, you can always download the PPA's and install "Budgie" along
[11:33] <YankDownUnder> with having XFce4 as your primary desktop.
[11:35] <KevinRatkliffe> ok so phpadmin for mysql then
[11:36] <Ellery> YankDownUnder wouldn't installing Budgie along with XFce4 cause the same issues? I suspected graphic driver issues as well...
[11:36] <YankDownUnder> Ellery, No. It would not.
[11:36] <KevinRatkliffe> I am kinda new in this.. so fexample if I use a wordpress site then.. then install phpmyadmin and apache2 isnt it..
[11:37] <YankDownUnder> Ellery, XFce4 works nicely, right? Ergo, installing "Budgie" as "yet another" desktop/window mangler should work well - as XFce4 is already utilising the graphics driver (installed by default?)...and it's not going to affect your "driver setup/configuration".
[11:38] <Ellery> gotcha... yes, installed by default
[11:38] <Ellery> Ok i'll give that a try
[11:38] <YankDownUnder> Ellery, It's not going to kill you.
[11:39] <Ellery> YankDownUnder Ha! thanks for your help
[11:39] <YankDownUnder> Ellery, Peace, be well.
[11:43] <mr_pinc> Greetings -  I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 next to my windows installation - I created UEFI boot drive but I obviously misread something in the installation because when I boot now Windows is not an option in grub - I tried to use this tool - But the 'REcommended Repair' option just seems to reinstall grub - windows is still not an option - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:44] <mr_pinc> Also I don't have windows installation media handy - so if i can solve this through Ubuntu that's best.  But if the only option is a windows usb I can obtain that
[12:01] <localadmin> hey guys, Ubunu 17.04 seems to have lost the ability to customize an Hotspot's SSID, it appears that that configuration file gets re-written everytime the hotspot is enabled. Is there any way around this? I tried scooping around for a file with default values, something that would return the machine's hostname to the configuration but to no avail.
[12:02] <KevinRatkliffe> Sorry was eating, Ok I understand that have to use some CLI commands to get this server up running... on this xserver But Ill have to take that in the next step on the latter.. :) But do u guys recommend X64 or 32 bit on this kind off server.. Xeon dual processor 3.0 Ghz and 4 gbs of RAM.
[12:02] <hateball> KevinRatkliffe: 64
[12:02] <KevinRatkliffe> Ok.. so no doubt there
[12:02] <KevinRatkliffe> :)
[12:02] <cfhowlett> ask #hardware or perhaps #ubuntu-server KevinRatkliffe
[12:03] <KevinRatkliffe> Yeah ohh there is such a channel too.. tnks
[12:03] <hateball> KevinRatkliffe: If your machine can handle it, there's no reason to not use 64-bit
[12:03] <Ben64> KevinRatkliffe: and you need to use pretty much all CLI to get a server working properly
[12:03] <KevinRatkliffe> Well anyway I try to install the server now..
[12:04] <KevinRatkliffe> yeah I understand that.. but there must be some kinda GUI controll too? Or isnt it?
[12:04] <linuxthefish> or you could install something like ubuntu desktop and add server stuff on later if you need other gui stuff
[12:04] <KevinRatkliffe> :)
[12:05] <linuxthefish> most stuff like apache/lighttpd doesn't have GUI controls, it's mostly editing configuration files and simple commands
[12:05] <KevinRatkliffe> SO if Im klinda newbie and only want to setup a Http server / FTP u also recommend that ubuntu desktop can easily be used
[12:06] <cfhowlett> desktop?  servers don't have desktops.  CLI!
[12:07] <cfhowlett> but again, #ubuntu-server is the channel with such advice, KevinRatkliffe
[12:07] <ducasse> KevinRatkliffe: you can run a webserver on a desktop, but you still need to admin it via the command line
[12:08] <KevinRatkliffe> Yeah tnks.. but Ill manage that.. ;)
[12:08] <KevinRatkliffe> :)
[12:09] <KevinRatkliffe> Il just start now install the server... There is a lot of good reading for putting up the http site on the server I guess
[12:12] <mr_pinc> Any way to repair a messed up window bootloader after an ubuntu install - only ubuntu is an option un grub - I followed this but only ubuntu remains an option
[12:12] <mr_pinc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:17] <tomreyn> mr_pinc: do you still have the url boot-repair printed?
[12:19] <tomreyn> hmm this tool dumps luks headers to a pastebin? bad idea...
[12:22] <mr_pinc> tomreyn it' actually gave me a blank url
[12:22] <mr_pinc> it just said paste2.org with no trailing url
[12:24] <tomreyn> mr_pinc: did you use the boot-repair script from the yannubuntu repository as discussed on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ?
[12:25] <tomreyn> ...or did you get it from elsewhere?
[12:31] <m4th> join/#ubuntu-fr
[12:31] <m4th> bonjour
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !fr | m4th
[12:32] <m4th> ho im sorry
[12:36] <bonsaitree> I am monitoring the processes running on my machine, using htop. Can someone explain why the command for the bluetooth functionality is not "/usr/lib/blueman/blueman-mechanism" and "/usr/bin/blueman-applet" but it's "/usr/bin/python3 /usr/lib/blueman/blueman-mechanism" and "/usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/blueman-applet"? Thanks in advance.
[12:42] <mr_pinc> tomeryn sorry coleague distracted me - I followed the instructions here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:42] <mr_pinc> I used the terminal commands
[12:49] <magalhaes> Olá pessoal. Estou com umas duvidas em gpg, alguém pode dar uma ajuda?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> !brazil | magalhaes
[12:50] <magalhaes> Ok. Obrigado. :-)
[12:55] <guest9> I'm compiling a kernel at the moment. Is there any way to estimate how much time is left for compilation to finish?
[13:02] <m4th> i m sorry please give my the ubuntu-fr
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !fr | m4th
[13:03] <machine_> Hello, i have a question about the squid config, someone here ?
[13:03] <m4th> thank's
[13:05] <machine_> i have the squid.conf and i want to add the Tag hostname part, but i don't know i can add it where i want in the file
[13:10] <Szabolcs> Hey guys! I have a package constantly failing do download from the repos
[13:10] <Szabolcs> Err:101 http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 libavahi-common3 amd64 0.6.32~rc+dfsg-1ubuntu2   Hash Sum mismatch
[13:10] <Szabolcs> What on earth is wrong with the repos? I get this every once in a while (with different packages).
[13:12] <Szabolcs> Anyone is actually here to support?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> !patience | Szabolcs
[13:12] <EriC^^> !ask | Szabolcs only one way to find out
[13:15] <Szabolcs> All right. Thanks.
[13:19] <zte_> hello
[13:22] <localadmin> hey guys, Ubunu 17.04 seems to have lost the ability to customize an Hotspot's SSID, it appears that that configuration file(/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Hotspot) gets re-written everytime the hotspot is enabled. Is there any way around this?
[13:33] <rockyh> Hi!
[13:33] <rockyh> Is this guide https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1421998 still up-to-date?
[13:35] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openldap-server.html   rockyh
[13:37] <jackhum> is there any GUI client for github for ubuntu ? if not , any alternative
[13:37] <jushur> if i want my alt+tab to never group terminals, anything i can do? preffer to not install any applications. and just do it in terminal/edit files.
[13:38] <Bob_> Hello, Can anyone out there with a problem I am having... ubuntu 14.04 need to add bridging br0 but once I add eth0 to it I can no longer connect to it... brctl addbr br0 , brctl addif eth0...
[13:40] <jackhum> can anyone tell me some github client for ubuntu ? why is there no github desktop for ubuntu
[13:41] <ducasse> !patience | jackhum
[13:41] <cfhowlett> https://git-scm.com/download/gui/linux  jackhum
[13:43] <yanome> if you use the WeeChat IRC client and haven't already upgraded, you should upgrade: https://weechat.org/news/95/20170422-Version-1.7.1/
[13:43] <rockyh> cfhowlett: thank you, it is useful, but it doesn't deal with the topic of my link. I am looking for configuring sudo with Ubuntu and LDAP
[13:44] <cfhowlett> sorry I didn't supply a more precise link, rockyh
[13:44] <rockyh> don't worry
[13:45] <jackhum> cfhowlett, is gitkraken good ? any specific reason why there is no github desktop for linux yet ?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> jackhum, question 1: haven't used it so no opinion.  2.  I suspect most github users are more comfortable with CLI - or perhaps that's just me.
[13:46] <b_p> Someone can suggest me an ide that displays hint about javascript libraries? thanks.
[13:47] <jackhum> b_p, atom , sublime text ?
[13:48] <jackhum> b_p, jetbrains webstorm
[13:48] <zzero1> question I want to use gpg subkey for ssh authentication with authorized_keys I 've used this https://incenp.org/notes/2014/gnupg-for-ssh-authentication.html
[13:48] <b_p> jackhum, which one should i try as first?
[13:49] <jackhum> b_p, atom
[13:49] <b_p> jackhum, thanks a lot
[13:49] <jackhum> b_p, atom is just a text editor , but it has lots of packages and plugins , which can make it powerful
[13:49] <zzero1> however in the  gpg 2.1.11 there is no export-reset-subkey-passwd option
[13:50] <jackhum> b_p, try all of them out , and choose one which suits you
[13:50] <jackhum> jackhum, atom , sublime text 3 , jetbrains webstorm
[13:54] <jadesoturi> hi all. im runnig a ubuntu vm on an unraid server.. and i have a problem.. df -h shows me that all the space on the device is used up. but du -sch shows that /home is only 391mb big while the partition is 2.2gb or so.. so im like, what? why ?
[13:54] <FinalX> jadesoturi: open files can take up space without it showing with du.
[13:55] <FinalX> jadesoturi: try see with lsof which files are open, or start stopping processes that might cause big logs, like apache, nginx, etc.
[13:56] <stevenjam> hy
[13:57] <stevenjam> hy bro salam kenal
[13:58] <stevenjam> good nigt bro
[13:59] <jadesoturi> FinalX, ok. ill try. very possible. its a server running a fuseki tdb store..
[13:59] <FinalX> jadesoturi: that sounds like it'll be a pain to debug :/
[14:00] <jadesoturi> mhm... i will be. so an easie rsolution will be to expand the home partition.. haha but need access to the unraid locally then :/ and thats a nogo until the weekend.
[14:01] <stevenjam> siapa yang di sini orang indonesia
[14:01] <Pici> !id | stevenjam
[14:02] <stevenjam> ia membahas memakai bahasa indonesia
[14:03] <stevenjam> #ubuntu
[14:03] <stevenjam> #apa artinya ubuntu
[14:05] <stevenjam> i,m not speking englis
[14:05] <cfhowlett> stevenjam, please join the #ubuntu-id channel
[14:08] <stevenjam> clear
[14:13] <max3> can someone help me? i'm getting only mono through my headphones http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=373d259cc79c12f0be18ae8a61613ca3c71af571
[14:25] <zap0> advice?:  what apps do you use regular.. what's worth installing?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> zap0, way too general and unfocused a query.  instead: what exactly do YOU Need to do?
[14:26] <zap0> i'm asking YOU.
[14:26] <cfhowlett> how would I know what you need to do?
[14:27] <zap0> i'm asking you.
[14:27] <nacc> zap0: that's not how this channel works
[14:28] <nacc> zap0: if you have an issue with ubuntu, this is the right place
[14:28] <cfhowlett> take your question to #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[14:29] <max3> i have an issue with ubuntu
[14:29] <max3> i only get mono from my headphones
[14:31] <cfhowlett> make sure it's the phones are properly plugged in max3
[14:32] <max3> of course they are
[14:32] <max3> err actually now that i wiggle it
[14:32] <max3> maybe not
[14:32] <max3> oh my god
[14:32] <max3> cfhowlett, thank you
[14:32] <max3> haha
[14:32] <cfhowlett> happy2help! max3
[14:32] <MustaKrakish> -_-
[14:32] <max3> that's what i get for using cheapo headphones
[14:41] <zap0> how do i remove a repo entry in apt ?
[14:41] <nacc> zap0: is the repo a PPA?
[14:42] <zap0> nacc  im following this:  https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu    and i did that  3rd line  the apt-add     when i should have done the next one instead for Mint,  so i want to remove the mistake
[14:44] <nacc> zap0: one, if you're on mint , you're in the wrong channel for support
[14:45] <nacc> zap0: and you probably will need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/... as appropirate
[14:45] <insidious> i need some help.... fresh copy of ubuntu latest release....
[14:45] <insidious> i had the wifi on working it just stopped
[14:45] <insidious> any ideas?
[14:45] <insidious> i went to software and updates my wifi card is detected.
[14:48] <blah> wow
[14:49] <zap0> nacc, i looked in a bunch of files in /etc/apt/  and couldn't find it..    do you know the name of a mint channel?
[14:50] <cfhowlett> !mint | zap0
[14:50] <insidious> Is this a bug with the latest release?
[14:52] <insidious> it wont even allow me to turn on the wifi via the connections settings.
[14:52] <insidious> when i click enable and log out or reboot wifi is not enabled.
[15:02] <zach> hello, where would i go to get helpo with Inbrowser games not working
[15:02] <zach> ??
[15:02] <localadmin> zach, Do you know if those games are flash or java based?
[15:03] <zach> flash, i can run them on Windows without java
[15:04] <localadmin> zach, please exemplify the game or the gaming platform you're trying to use
[15:04] <localadmin> and what is the browser.
[15:04] <zach> kongregate, newgrounds and armourgames
[15:04] <zach> imusing mozzila
[15:05] <mikeymop> zach: those are flash based, you could use google chrome for it's pepperflash plugin or you can install an extra package for firefox
[15:05] <mikeymop> chrome will work out of box
[15:05] <localadmin> ^
[15:05] <zach> i cant seem to find chrome for ubuntu
[15:06] <mikeymop> install it from google.com/chrome
[15:06] <cfhowlett> chromium-browser zach
[15:06] <mikeymop> you will be given a .deb package, this installs like a .exe on windows.
[15:06] <mikeymop> alternatively, the Open Source chromium browser is available in the software repos/center
[15:06] <rud0lf> flash-installer worked fine for me
[15:06] <zach> i tried, all ive goten from it for ubuntu is a ? icon with a loadin bar on my launcher and its been like that for two hours
[15:06] <mikeymop> for chromium?
[15:07] <rud0lf> for firefox
[15:07] <mikeymop> zach: for chromium?
[15:07] <rud0lf> oh
[15:07] <mikeymop> ;)
[15:07] <rud0lf> pardon me
[15:07] <mikeymop> where did you get that flash installer rud0lf ?
[15:07] <rud0lf> apt-get
[15:07] <mikeymop> gotcha thanks
[15:07] <localadmin> Shouldn't flashplugin-installer install the plugin for firefox? I'm under the impressing my install came bundled with it,
[15:08] <zach> yes, ive tried the software store from ubunutu and when i search chromium, im stuck with a loading icon
[15:26] <traxus> Anybody know how to switch graphics drivers from AMDGPU back to Radeon? I swapped out a newer card to one too old for AMDGPU.
[15:29] <k0z3r0> What programming standard is used in the terminal in ubuntu?
[15:29] <aotaointbin> wat
[15:29] <cfhowlett> huh?
[15:29] <EriC^^> k0z3r0: you mean the shell language?
[15:29] <k0z3r0> Yeah
[15:29] <EriC^^> bash
[15:29] <aotaointbin> ubuntu's default shell is bash.
[15:29] <aotaointbin> but that's not a programming standard.
[15:30] <k0z3r0> Aha
[15:30] <rud0lf> it's more like behavior
[15:30] <rud0lf> or character
[15:30] <aotaointbin> it's more like a shell.
[15:30] <rud0lf> or that
[15:30] <rud0lf> :P
[15:30] <k0z3r0> So what's its advantages over other scripting languages like python and java?
[15:30] <aotaointbin> java is not a scripting language.
[15:30] <nacc> !ot | k0z3r0
[15:31] <k0z3r0> My bad, sorry.
[15:32] <auronandace> !dash
[15:33] <pavlos> traxus: see the Additional Drivers in Settings | Software & updates. Does it list other video drivers?
[15:44] <PleaseHelpMe> Is there an easy way to copy and paste directories from the files browser?
[15:44] <PleaseHelpMe> I'm new to ubuntu and can't figure out how to do it
[15:45] <privacy> think if you triple-click the top bit it'll turn into text
[15:45] <privacy> not sure though
[15:46] <localadmin> PleaseHelpMe, if you cant copy paste between folders, they probably dont belong to you. Are the source and destination directories inside your home folder?
[15:46] <mikeymop> PleaseHelpMe: ??? it works just like in window
[15:46] <PleaseHelpMe> localadmin I don't mean copy and paste files, but the address at the top of the files window. For example Home/documents/folder etc
[15:47] <PleaseHelpMe> mikeymop in windows when I click the address bar it turns to text and I can copy it. I can't get that to happen with ubuntu though
[15:47] <PleaseHelpMe> mikeymop I figure it out thanks. I right clicked the address and clicked copy and it worked
[15:50] <MaDMaLKaV> hi everyone. One question: does the install media include open and non-open drivers for GPUs? I ask because I have a card with driver problems in linux and I wanted to a quick way to see the current status with both drivers
[15:50] <traxus> pavlos: No, it just shows an Intel microcode driver.
[15:54] <nacc> MaDMaLKaV: dependso on the gpu -- there is no longer, e.g. fglrx
[15:54] <nacc> MaDMaLKaV: so you must mean nvidia?
[15:56] <nacc> MaDMaLKaV: i'm not sure the nvidia drivers are on the isos
[15:56] <MaDMaLKaV> no, I mean AMD. I have a card that never worked with the open source stack, it worked with bad performance with fglrx, and never worked with amdgpu-pro either
[15:57] <MaDMaLKaV> I just want to boot with both amsgpu and amdgpu-pro, confirm the problem is still there, and go cry to my corner :)
[15:57] <jushur> MaDMaLKaV: what card exactly u have? and is it a laptop or desktop? (can it be swapped that is)
[15:57] <traxus> On a related subject, does anyone know how to switch between AMDGPU and the old Radeon driver, for older cards?
[15:58] <MaDMaLKaV> 7870 LE, desktop
[15:58] <dj-diskri> !list
[15:58] <MaDMaLKaV> the bug is reported and well know bu AMD developers
[15:59] <nacc> MaDMaLKaV: well 'amdgpu-pro' isn't an ubuntu package
[15:59] <MaDMaLKaV> I just want to boot and see if there is some new info in the logs, but no longer have a linux install for that. I can install to an external drive but it is a pain in the ass to do it just for some dmesg
[15:59] <nacc> MaDMaLKaV: so it definitely isn't on the install media
[15:59] <MaDMaLKaV> nacc, thanks
[15:59] <MaDMaLKaV> ummm, I'm sure there was a distro that offered to boot with the propietary drivers, but can't recall which one...
[15:59] <nnyby> why doesn't the android-sdk ubuntu package come with the 'android' executable?
[16:00] <BigMao> Hi everyone, I have an issue with my GNOME desktop that I can't figure out how to solve from a Google search.  What I want is simple - I want to change the color of the title bar of the active window.  My current theme has the colors the same (but the active window has a darker text), and it's hard to see which window is active.
[16:00] <BigMao> Is there any tool that allows me to do this?  I've spent far too long looking at .css files
[16:00] <nacc> nnyby: becuase there is no such executable?
[16:01] <nnyby> nacc: $ cordova requirements   -- Failed to find 'android' command in your 'PATH'. Try update your 'PATH' to include path to valid SDK directory.
[16:02] <dj-diskri> can download ubuntu iso elsewhere
[16:03] <muchoo> is moving window buttons to the right still not possible? I recall there was some controversy surrounding that a few months ago
[16:03] <nacc> nnyby: i can only tellyou what i see -- there is no 'bin/android' in ubuntu (17.04)
[16:05] <jushur> muchoo: anything is possible, question is how much work your willing to do to do it.
[16:05] <muchoo> how much work does it take?
[16:05] <slx26> adsasd
[16:05] <wiggmpk> I no longer have the ability to type a tilde after upgrading from 16.04.2 -> 17.04. I have tried reconfiguring the keyboard layout. Any suggestiosn?
[16:05] <cfhowlett> muchoo, hacking unity is of low priority since it's on its way out.
[16:06] <muchoo> cfhowlett what is replacing it?
[16:06] <cfhowlett> gnome
[16:06] <muchoo> huh
[16:06] <wiggmpk> should of always been gnome =P
[16:07] <jan_> some german hear
[16:07] <jushur> kinda dont like gnome here, so ubuntu will not be my choise when you swap to that.
[16:07] <cfhowlett> !flavors | jushur
[16:09] <jushur> cfhowlett: unity still going to be a "solid" usable DE when you swap to Gnome? or will it be left behind and break a lot because its not updated to follow the new standards (imposed by using Gnome).
[16:09] <nacc> jushur: please stop using 'you'
[16:09] <cfhowlett> it will be forked.  can't say anything more than that
[16:09] <nacc> jushur: this is a volunteer channel, none of us 'are' ubuntu
[16:10] <jushur> when i say "you" i mean the ubuntu community tho.
[16:10] <nacc> jushur: which none of us control individually
[16:10] <nacc> jushur: so your question is nonsense
[16:10] <nacc> jushur: unity will be in universe
[16:10] <nacc> jushur: if you mean unity8, it's already been forked
[16:15] <CuriousUsr> My hard drive did something funny and it ended up in read-only mode and grub seems not not find any files to boot up from that Ubuntu installation, some of the root directories from the installation appear as plain text files now.. mapped all strangely
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> CuriousUsr: syslog showing any hd errors?
[16:17] <CuriousUsr> hm that i dont know
[16:17] <tomreyn> i'd say post any relevant error messages to a pastebin
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> CuriousUsr: can you check for IO or badblock errors perhaps?
[16:18] <CuriousUsr> i ran gparted on it as unmounted that appeared ok
[16:18] <CuriousUsr> a 'check' of it
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> CuriousUsr: when did this all start to happen? on wich ubuntu version?
[16:19] <CuriousUsr> it's an older version..i think 14.04, it all happened at once.
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> CuriousUsr: try to detail everything you find to get your issue solved like tomreyn suggests
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> CuriousUsr: it all happened at once isnt very usefull to help you
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | CuriousUsr
[16:23] <tomreyn> if you can't access log files or the system doe snot boot up properly you can still take screen shots with smartphone or camera and upload them to an image hosting site such as imgur.com
[16:23] <CuriousUsr> right.. what would cause directories to now be recognized as plain text files.. it seems theyre mapped to various configuration files, is that a symbolic link issue?
[16:24] <tomreyn> maybe what you see are broken symbolic links which are broken because the file system they point to coul dnot be mounted
[16:25] <tomreyn> that's just a theory, since we have no information to work with
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> CuriousUsr: you cant enter grub normally anymore to bootup, lets say an older kernel?
[16:25] <CuriousUsr> ok
[16:26] <CuriousUsr> i got on the grub command line but only checked out a few things..ill try an older kernel next time
[16:29] <royal_screwup21> How do I write a script that executes a file every time I turn on my computer? For example, I might want to view open up my browser upon starting up my computer - what's the easiest way to accomplish this? (I looked up the "@reboot" command as well as "crontab" but none of them seems to work
[16:31] <nacc> royal_screwup21: there is a distinction between every time you turn on your computer and when you first login
[16:31] <nacc> royal_screwup21: the first is crontab stuff, the  latter is session startup scripts
[16:31] <mediamonster> what could be the reason that a crontab entry dont work? can i dry run it ?
[16:33] <ycyclist> Is there a special IRC group for device problems?
[16:34] <ycyclist> I'm trying to install a second gpu.
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> ycyclist: ##hardware
[16:46] <ycyclist> Thank you
[16:48] <nacc> mediamonster: are you using relative or absolute paths?
[16:48] <mediamonster> abolute. even inside the skripts i run
[16:49] <nacc> mediamonster: perhaps pastbin the crontab entry
[16:49] <nacc> mediamonster: iirc, cron emails the admin user with failed cron runs
[16:49] <nacc> mediamonster: otherwise, i think they also show up in syslog
[16:50] <mediamonster> yep, i see these mails. thats why i investiagte.
[16:50] <mediamonster> "@hourly sh /home14/medienmonster/rclone.upload"
[16:51] <ycyclist> That place does not appear Ubuntu specific.  This question is about an Ubuntu package install problem around the GTX 1070.  Are you sure it's not a question for here?
[16:51] <nacc> mediamonster: 'sh' is a relative path
[16:51] <nacc> mediamonster: fwiw
[16:51] <mediamonster> oh true
[16:51] <nacc> mediamonster: also cron's sh may not be your user's sh
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> ycyclist: you asked a hardware related group? not an ubuntu hardware question
[16:51] <mediamonster> is there a way to run a cron entry as user
[16:51] <mediamonster> ?
[16:52] <ycyclist> Okay, this is an ubuntu support hard ware question:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24506332/
[16:52] <ycyclist> The main error message of interest at the end of the above is:  Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to socket /root/anaconda2/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[16:53] <ycyclist> This is also in there:  W: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/mc3man/trusty-media/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[16:54] <ycyclist> mediamonster:  You can make your own user oriented crontab.
[16:54] <w9qbj> mediamonster: yes, the user uses the command crontab -e (edit) then sets up the crontab file
[16:54] <nacc> ycyclist: ppa owners support the ppa
[16:54] <nacc> ycyclist: not ubuntu
[16:54] <ycyclist> crontab -l >crontab I think to start.  Then edit it.  Then crontab crontab.
[16:54] <ycyclist> However, also look at "at" if you just want ad hoc submissions.
[16:54] <mediamonster> ah okay, i did edit crontab as user
[16:55] <ycyclist> Ok.
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> ycyclist: how about you start from the start? ubuntu version? your card doesnt work because of?
[16:56] <ycyclist> I am not even trying the card yet.  I tried to do the apt driver install, and it failed.  It is a brand new card installed after the Ubuntu install.
[16:56] <ycyclist> I've had 1604 on this machine for a week.  Then I got the gtx 1070.  Now I need to add the device driver, or whatever software that it needs for support,.
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> ycyclist: you dont trying the card but added all kind of ppa's?
[16:57] <nacc> ycyclist: adding a driver for a card that doesn't exist ... seems silly
[16:57] <nacc> ycyclist: but again, the ppa owners are responsible for that ppa
[16:57] <ycyclist> The card is on the board.  The document I read for this is here:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/791439/trouble-installing-ubuntu-16-04-since-i-got-gtx-1070
[16:58] <ycyclist> Is that just #ppa?
[16:58] <nacc> ycyclist: you also don't need the ppa for nvidia-367
[16:58] <nacc> !info nvidia-367 xenial
[16:58] <ycyclist> Ok reading ...
[16:59] <ycyclist> Ok.   What do I look under (presumably in /proc) to know that the board is recognized?
[16:59] <zAZ>  cd in-bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device
[17:00] <sjohnson> Guest21852: check "df"
[17:00] <sjohnson> you probably ran out of space on your VPS.
[17:00] <Guest21852> yes :/
[17:00] <Guest21852> i cant use "tabl"
[17:00] <odroid> hello
[17:00] <sjohnson> odroid: hi
[17:00] <Guest21852> hi
[17:00] <odroid> how are you guys doing
[17:01] <odroid> ?
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> !chat | odroid
[17:01] <Guest21852> sjohnson: https://paste.debian.net/930629/
[17:01] <Guest21852> odroid: fine
[17:01] <Guest21852> and you
[17:01] <nacc> ycyclist: not sure why you think it would be under /proc? i'd use lshw to see if the card is recognized
[17:01] <nacc> Guest21852: please take chat elsewhere
[17:01] <ycyclist> Thank you.
[17:02] <Guest21852> nacc: im not here for chat.
[17:02] <Guest21852> i have problem
[17:02] <nacc> Guest21852: ok, then don't chat with others
[17:02] <odroid> thats awesome, im fine too
[17:02] <Guest21852> ok
[17:02] <Guest21852> sjohnson: https://paste.debian.net/930629/
[17:02] <odroid> how can i help you bro?
[17:02] <Guest21852> are u see paste ?
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> !ask | odroid
[17:02] <sjohnson> Guest21852: you need to delete a file.
[17:02] <sjohnson> you ran out of space.
[17:03] <Guest21852> for example which?
[17:03] <nacc> Guest21852: sjohnson already told you this
[17:03] <nacc> Guest21852: we don't know what's on your system
[17:03] <sjohnson> Guest21852: check /tmp
[17:03] <sjohnson> might be some shit there.
[17:03] <Guest21852> i have ircd and another problem
[17:03] <nacc> !ohmy | sjohnson
[17:03] <sjohnson> nacc: sorry, my bad.
[17:04] <ycyclist> No there is no information about either of my GPUs in lshw.
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> ycyclist: sudo lshw -C video shows nothing?
[17:04] <ycyclist> Perhaps I am searching for the wrong string.
[17:04] <ycyclist> It shows memory, usb a bunch of stuff.
[17:05] <ycyclist> What is a good search string?  I looked through the entire list and recognized nothing for video.
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> ycyclist: sudo lshw -C video
[17:06] <ycyclist> Ok...
[17:07] <Guest21852> sjohnson: Which files should I delete ?
[17:07] <Guest21852> i dont known
[17:07] <sjohnson> lul
[17:07] <ycyclist>   *-display UNCLAIMED        description: VGA compatible controller        product: NVIDIA Corporation
[17:07] <Guest21852> sjohnson: https://paste.debian.net/930629/
[17:07] <sjohnson> Guest21852: cd && ls -l
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> Guest21852: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[17:07] <ycyclist> So it appears to be seen and unused.
[17:07] <sjohnson> might be some stuff there.
[17:07] <ycyclist> Perhaps that's fine.,
[17:07] <Guest21852> ycyclist: how i can see
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> ycyclist: means not correct driver loaded, card unclaimed
[17:08] <Guest21852> i use which ubuntu ?
[17:08] <sjohnson> you don't need to keep showing me the paste, i got it.
[17:08] <ycyclist> Ok.  Please make suggestions.
[17:08] <ycyclist> Should I take out the stuff I just added?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> ycyclist: open additional drivers section and install a driver?
[17:08] <ycyclist> Ok.  I'm used to using apt-get.  I'll take a look...
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> ycyclist: after reboot, you can test the new driver if it works
[17:09] <Guest21852> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | ycyclist if driver gives you a black screen
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> Guest21852: install bleachbit, make some free space
[17:10] <Guest21852> I want to delete unnecessary files
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> Guest21852: install bleachbit, make some free space
[17:10] <Guest21852> ok
[17:10] <Guest21852> but i use vps ?
[17:11] <sjohnson> i just guessed you were using a VPS>
[17:11] <Guest21852> : You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[17:11] <sjohnson> since they usually have low SSD disk-space for basic plans, i assumed you used one and ran out.
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> Guest21852: rental ubuntu vps, or own installed vps?
[17:12] <Guest21852> rental
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> Guest21852: did you install stuff on it yet?
[17:12] <Guest21852> yes
[17:12] <Guest21852> ircd,
[17:12] <Jerat> hi, ¿how I move file with comand line?
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest21852: uninstall something?
[17:13] <Guest21852> how ?
[17:13] <nacc> Jerat: mv src dest
[17:13] <sjohnson> $ mv file.txt /tmp
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest21852: how did you install?
[17:17] <Guest21852> i have kiwiirc and ircd
[17:19] <ycyclist> Okay, I have my reboot, and I have two entries under display, but both with physical id 0, and neither indicates its a GTX 1070:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24506444/
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> Guest21852: the ircd software too big perhaps?
[17:20] <Guest21852> i dont known
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> Guest21852: you pay your vps right? doesnt it mention space?
[17:21] <Guest21852> i pay
[17:21] <Guest21852> no i dont mention
[17:24] <Tatou> I have an old laptop with a broken keyboard. How do I best set it up?
[17:24] <ikonia> plug a usb keyboard in it
[17:25] <Guest21852> Tatou: you ne buy a keyboard :d
[17:25] <Tatou> I want it as a media machine mostly, so I figure.. Set up some puppet manifests to get sshd going and then configure it via a remote laptop?
[17:25] <ikonia> Tatou: then why are you asking ?
[17:25] <Tatou> Me has no keyboard :( Only one that hs a custom rf dongle
[17:26] <Tatou> I just want input. I am a linux noob
[17:26] <ikonia> Tatou: you're new to linux, yet your thinking of using a stateful config manager to configure a host
[17:26] <Tatou> I'm just that pro, ikonia
[17:26] <ikonia> what ?
[17:26] <ycyclist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24506475/
[17:27] <Tatou> Wait are you saying I am wrong to use puppet?
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> amirite: best not login to irc as root
[17:27] <ikonia> not at all, it's very power, I'd question if its not overkill and going to make what you want to do more complex
[17:27] <ikonia> Tatou: why not just ssh in and configure it
[17:27] <ikonia> or at worst, run an ansible playbook
[17:27] <Tatou> Why ansible over puppet?
[17:28] <Southern_Gentlem> lotuspsychje, correct
[17:28] <ikonia> Tatou: because it can use ssh and is not a stateful config manager
[17:28] <Tatou> But my aim: If I configure it all via puppet/bash, put that all into git and if I get a pi or a new laptop then i can just set it up in no time
[17:28] <Tatou> ikonia: Stateful.. how is puppet stateful?
[17:29] <ikonia> Tatou: you can do exactly the same with ansible, but the playbook into git and just run ansible-playbook configure-something myhost
[17:29] <ikonia> Tatou: puppet maintains state unless used in masterless mode, it does not "transition" to a state, it just sets a state
[17:29] <Tatou> ikonia: It maintains a state? TIL
[17:30] <ikonia> Tatou: this is very good and powerful, but it means you really need to understand it, especially if doing cross-platform/hardware development
[17:30] <ikonia> Tatou: TIL ?
[17:30] <Tatou> Today I learnt
[17:30] <Tatou> I use puppet in passing mostly (But it's hard unless you're willing to write your own modules mostly)
[17:31] <ikonia> Tatou: this is why I'd suggest either a.) a shell script b.) ansible
[17:31] <ikonia> Tatou: (for what you are trying to do )
[17:31] <Tatou> Also I did mean puppet in masterless mode
[17:32] <Tatou> Right.. Sure.. I have no problem picking up sme ansible
[17:32] <ikonia> Tatou: puppet in masterless mode is bad, more so when you consider you're putting in all those dependencies for a one time run
[17:33] <ikonia> the whole point of puppet is to maintain state and not transitional state,
[17:33] <ikonia> if you're not using it for that - it's a waste
[17:33] <Tatou> I'm not seeing your point? How is ansible different?
[17:33] <ikonia> ansible is a one time deployment that transforms a box to a state, and has no dependencies on the client
[17:34] <ikonia> it's basically a library driven shell script
[17:34] <Tatou> Ansible just acts over ssh then?
[17:34] <ikonia> (over simplified explination I grant you)
[17:34] <ikonia> Tatou: correct
[17:34] <ikonia> the client needs nothing
[17:34] <Tatou> Ok right I remember now. Thus it's no good on windows
[17:37] <rory> it does work on Windows but you need a Linux control machine http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/intro_windows.html
[17:38] <Tatou> Which is fine for actual infrastructure. I use puppet a little for windows dev machines
[17:39] <nacc> most of this can probably move to a better channel at this point :)
[17:39] <rory> "plug a usb keyboard into it" is the actual answer to the question tbh
[17:39] <rory> the rest is nerds showing off
[17:39] <Tatou> You're saying I'm a nerd showing off ? :(
[17:40] <rory> I wonder if you can use an Android phone as a USB keyboard?
[17:40] <Tatou> I have an MS Sculpture keyboard, but it doesn't work. It uses a custom usb dongle for some reason
[17:41] <Tatou> It's ok. I can pick a keyboard up from work. Longer term I am going to use a wireless full sized keyboard anyways
[17:47] <mikeymop> anyone here good with awk? the channel there is quite dormant
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> !ask | mikeymop
[17:48] <mikeymop> can someone assist me in breaking down this the awk statement in this answer
[17:48] <mikeymop> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/48672/remove-comma-between-the-quotes-only-in-a-comma-delimited-file
[17:53] <pennTeller> Hi guys. Has anybody gotten the trackpad to work as it does on the Mac but in Ubuntu 16.04 or 17.04? I cant get thumb/palm rejection to work
[17:54] <adac> hi there! I wasn wondering how can I show the full hostname in the command line?
[17:54] <adac> i.e if I have est the hostname to myhost.example.com only myhost is shown currently
[17:54] <pavlos> adac: /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> !hostname | adac
[17:55] <adac> pavlos, hmm yes I have set that
[17:55] <adac> but in the terminal it only shows "myhost"
[17:55] <adac> not myhost.example.com
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> adac: can this help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/158957/how-to-set-the-fully-qualified-domain-name-in-12-04
[17:59] <nacc> adac: 'in the terminal' ?
[18:00] <nacc> adac: do you mean at the commandline prompt?
[18:00] <nacc> adac: or do you mean when running `hostname` ?
[18:00] <nacc> adac: for the former, see 'PROMPTING' in `man bash`, you want PS1 to use \H rather than \h (the latter is the default)
[18:01] <nacc> adac: for the latter, you need to ask for it, `hostname --fqdn`
[18:01] <adac> This is actually the situation: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9ed01d40f9217df7f82300080121bd70
[18:02] <nacc> adac: so ... answer my question?
[18:02] <adac> nacc, lotuspsychje https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7fd6d4502d025ecbaa25a5075cb31414 that would be what I wanted
[18:02] <nacc> adac: your paste shows *both*
[18:02] <nacc> adac: literally what i just answered, then
[18:03] <adac> nacc, ok thanks a lot!
[18:03] <adac> Thank you too lotuspsychje
[18:05] <pennTeller> Hi guys! Can anybody help me get the trackpad working as it does on the Mac side but on the Ubuntu side?
[18:05] <pennTeller> I already got it to "work" but its basically just single touch
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> pennTeller: can this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/AppleMagicTrackpad
[18:07] <adac> nacc, use \H rather than \h  is this in .bashrc?
[18:09] <adac> nacc, I noticed that rsyslog also sends only the -h
[18:09] <adac> is this also dependent from this PS1?
[18:13] <nacc> adac: you set it in your PS1 definition, which is usually in .bashrc
[18:13] <nacc> adac: i doubt rsyslog is using PS1, i'm not sure where it decides
[18:14] <adac> nacc, kk thanks, asking in #rsyslog about that
[18:15] <adac> nacc, can this PS1 also be set globally?
[18:17] <bashtheshell> New here. Anyone familiar with `libvirt`?
[18:18] <bashtheshell> I mean... virt-install
[18:19] <nacc> !ask | bashtheshell
[18:34] <justalex_> hi
[18:35] <justalex_> i got a problem with my usb stick
[18:35] <Bashing-om> !details | justalex_
[18:36] <justalex_> My USB Drive does not connect to my Ubuntu and I am not sure what to do.I tried it in other computers but no success.
[18:38] <pavlos> justalex_: dmesg in the terminal will give you info about the plugged in device
[18:38] <justalex_> This is what i get about it
[18:38] <justalex_> [  367.793707] usb 2-1.2: Product: UDisk
[18:38] <justalex_> [  367.793709] usb 2-1.2: Manufacturer: General
[18:38] <justalex_> [  367.793711] usb 2-1.2: SerialNumber: Љ
[18:38] <justalex_> [  368.376520] usb-storage 2-1.2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[18:38] <justalex_> [  368.376707] scsi host5: usb-storage 2-1.2:1.0
[18:39] <tomreyn> !paste | justalex_
[18:39] <pavlos> justalex_: dont paste many lines here, try this, dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 and give the url
[18:39] <justalex_> what can i do
[18:40] <justalex_> It shows in the terminal but it does not show in disks
[18:40] <tomreyn> how many lines did you mean to paste here?
[18:41] <pavlos> justalex_: just one
[18:41] <justalex_> pavlos : pardon me
[18:41] <tomreyn> justalex_: paste again to a pastebin
[18:42] <justalex_> tomreyn : what do you mean by that
[18:42] <tomreyn> justalex_: some minutes ago, you copied and pasted some lines of your dmesg outpout to this channel.
[18:43] <justalex_> tomeryn : yep
[18:43] <tomreyn> justalex_: i'm suggesting that you copy the same dmesg output again but paste it to a paste bin instead, and reposrt the URL here
[18:43] <pavlos> justalex_: the url will look like http://termbin.com/qtzs
[18:43] <tomreyn> *pastebin
[18:43] <tomreyn> you can also do what pavlos says, either shoudl work
[18:43] <justalex_> tomeryn : here is the link https://pastebin.com/GU8JJ33M
[18:45] <justalex_> anything i can do?
[18:45] <tomreyn> justalex_: and 'lsblk' does not list it? (care to paste it to a pastebin as well?)
[18:46] <justalex_> this is what i get with lsblk https://pastebin.com/DtknyXpE
[18:47] <tomreyn> okay, so apparently no device node is attached to your usb stick.
[18:47] <justalex_> tomeryn : what do you mean by that
[18:47] <tomreyn> you said it fails to work on several computers, this suggests that something is wrong with the stick in general.
[18:48] <justalex_> tomeryn : what can i do?
[18:48] <tomreyn> what i mean: the lsblk output lists all your detected disks and the partitions on them. it only lists one disk, sda, which will be your ubuntu installation. and a cdrom/dvd-rom (sr0). but not the stick.
[18:48] <justalex_> tomeryn : then how do i get the stick to work again
[18:49] <tomreyn> if it does the same with multiple computers, escpeciially if they run different operating systems, i would bet your stick is broken and you need to replace it.
[18:49] <justalex_> but it shows in dsmeg
[18:51] <pavlos> justalex_: in dmesg it should report sdb: sdb1 (something like that ... lsblk does not show it so as tomreyn said, probably a bad stick
[18:51] <justalex_> how can i format it without losing the stick
[18:52] <pavlos> justalex_: you said 'disks' does not see it ...
[18:52] <justalex_> i know but i want to format it
[18:53] <pavlos> justalex_: if it does not appear as a valid device, you cannot format it
[18:53] <tomreyn> the kernel does not consider it to be a useable storage media, so you won't be able to address and thus to format it.
[18:54] <pavlos> justalex_: dmesg just reports header info about this stick
[18:54] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[18:54] <justalex_> cant i mount it
[18:55]  * cousin_luigi is having a hard time seeing how a particular bug reported on launchpad was fixed.
[18:55] <pavlos> justalex_: no b/c you dont get a device (like sdb sdc or ...
[18:55] <nacc> cousin_luigi: which bug?
[18:55] <_MattB> I have 16.04 running in a VM and everything was working fine for months. Now, however, when I login I briefly see a black screen then it flashes back to the login prompt. Any ideas on how I can figure out whats going on
[18:56] <tomreyn> pavlos: i think you said it does not work on other computers either, is this correct?
[18:56] <tomreyn> sorry, justalex_ ^
[18:56] <justalex_> yep
[18:56] <tomreyn> then consider it dead.
[18:56] <calhax_za> sup guys, anyone know of a good tutorial or piece of software to make a bandwidth sharing/login system for a Cafe or Hotel? All the windows software I can find is outdated and crap
[18:56] <justalex_> when i plug it in a red light appears
[18:57] <justalex_> but sooner than later it dissappearrs
[18:59] <cousin_luigi> nacc: Old stuff, 1096914 for example.
[18:59] <tomreyn> calhax_za: you could try https://packetfence.org/
[18:59] <justalex_> how can i charge it
[18:59] <justalex_> it seems like its battery has run out
[18:59] <calhax_za> looking into it right now tomreyn
[18:59] <calhax_za> thanks tomreyn
[19:00] <pavlos> tomreyn: he wrote it doesnt not work in other systems
[19:00] <nacc> cousin_luigi: that's a MIR bug it was fixed by src:testrepository moving from universe to main
[19:00] <tomreyn> pavlos: where? i dont see him writing that
[19:01] <pavlos> tomreyn: My USB Drive does not connect to my Ubuntu and I am not sure what to do.I tried it in other computers but no success.
[19:01] <tomreyn> pavlos: "no success" "in other computers"
[19:01] <pavlos> tomreyn: 11:36:35
[19:01] <tomreyn> pavlos: to me this means it works nowhere
[19:01] <cousin_luigi> nacc: I don't see any patch though. What was changed in practical terms?
[19:02] <pavlos> tomreyn: right so stick is dead. It gets power when plugged in but nothing after that
[19:02] <tomreyn> right.
[19:02] <nacc> cousin_luigi: literally what i just said
[19:02] <nacc> cousin_luigi: a source package has moved from universe to main
[19:02] <cousin_luigi> nacc: And that fixed the issue?
[19:02] <nacc> cousin_luigi: why are you looking at an old bug like that one?
[19:02] <justalex_> right
[19:03] <causative> my laptop fan is barely functional and annoyingly noisy, instead I have the case open and an external fan blowing over it, which seems to control temperature well enough... however, if I mechanically stop the fan, the computer will sometimes shut down without warning, even though sensor tells me temperatures are normal... pwmconfig does not recognize the fan
[19:03] <nacc> cousin_luigi: it feels like you maybe don't know enough about ubuntu development for that bug to be relevant to you
[19:03] <cousin_luigi> nacc: I'm trying to fix a problem elsewhere.
[19:03] <tomreyn> justalex_: so trash it, buy a new one if you need one. done.
[19:03] <nacc> cousin_luigi: do you know what a MIR is?
[19:03] <causative> should I simply remove the entire fan?
[19:03] <cousin_luigi> nacc: Yes, not sure how it relates to a python module though.
[19:03] <justalex_> It has a red light meaning is not dead
[19:03] <nacc> cousin_luigi: a MIR relates to a source package
[19:03] <cousin_luigi> oh
[19:03] <nacc> cousin_luigi: it doesn't matter what kind of source package it is
[19:04] <nacc> cousin_luigi: as i, again, *literally* just said
[19:04] <tomreyn> okay, it' half dead, but broken beyond being of any use.
[19:04] <_MattB> This is what it looks like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NhxKpn3Ri8 any help would be appreciated. Like I said it was working fine a day or so ago and I'm not sure what changed
[19:05] <nacc> cousin_luigi: if you know what a MIR is, then you would know that
[19:05] <cousin_luigi> nacc: Perhaps I don't know enough about the internal workings of Ubuntu, but how can a failing test be fixed like that?
[19:05] <cousin_luigi> nacc: I thought it was the now defunct display server.
[19:06] <tomreyn> _MattB: ~/.xsession-errors is a log file which may have a hint on what's going wrong.
[19:06] <tomreyn> it's in the users' ("Parallels")  home directory.
[19:06] <nacc> cousin_luigi: no, it's not
[19:06] <nacc> cousin_luigi: that's Mir
[19:07] <nacc> cousin_luigi: a MIR is something elese
[19:07] <_MattB> tomreyn: thanks I'll check now
[19:07] <cousin_luigi> nacc: Whatever. But to the matter at hand, do you have any idea how the build differs in main compared to this MIR?
[19:07] <nacc> cousin_luigi: and that bug is not about a failing test. A developer saw a test failed and fixed it by skipping the test.
[19:07] <nacc> cousin_luigi: seriously?
[19:07] <nacc> cousin_luigi: i think you don't understand something basic
[19:08] <nacc> cousin_luigi: the bug was a MIR, which was just moving a src package from universe to main
[19:08] <cousin_luigi> nacc: I can't see how the test is being skipped anywhere in the source package.
[19:08] <nacc> cousin_luigi: it might not be anymore
[19:08] <cousin_luigi> nacc: That's why I wanted to see how it was back then.
[19:09] <nacc> cousin_luigi: ... and how did you go about doing that?
[19:09] <nacc> cousin_luigi: maybe that was yoru actual question?
[19:09] <cousin_luigi> nacc: Doing what?
[19:09] <nacc> cousin_luigi: seriously. what is your actual question.
[19:10] <nacc> cousin_luigi: "I wanted to see how it was back then"
[19:10] <nacc> cousin_luigi: so is taht your question? how do you see the srcpkg at the version supposedly containing the fix?
[19:10] <cousin_luigi> nacc: I need to see what command they used back then to exclude the failing test.
[19:10] <cousin_luigi> nacc: Precisely.
[19:10] <nacc> cousin_luigi: ok, so why not ask that to begin with?
[19:10] <cousin_luigi> nacc: Because it's not the first time, so I thought there was something I was missing about the way patches are listed on launchpad.
[19:11] <nacc> cousin_luigi: `pull-lp-source testrepository 0.0.11-0ubuntu5` has the disabling. and `pull-lp-source testrepository 0.0.11-0ubuntu6` has the drop of the patch
[19:12] <cousin_luigi> nacc: Thanks. Is there a way to do that from the web interface? I'm not on ubuntu right now.
[19:12] <nacc> cousin_luigi: to do what?
[19:12] <_MattB> tomreyn: looks like there was a disk issue. Fixed. Thank you!
[19:12] <cousin_luigi> nacc: To see the patch in question.
[19:13] <nacc> cousin_luigi: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/128192660/testrepository_0.0.11-0ubuntu4_0.0.11-0ubuntu5.diff.gz and http://launchpadlibrarian.net/128412082/testrepository_0.0.11-0ubuntu5_0.0.11-0ubuntu6.diff.gz
[19:14] <cousin_luigi> nacc: much obliged
[19:15] <cousin_luigi> nacc: Strange that I would still see that problem on 0.20 though. Will also ask on #testrepository.
[19:15] <cousin_luigi> bbl
[19:16] <tomreyn> wlecome, Matt
[19:17] <Newbie_> Hey, anyone looking to solve the unsolvable?
[19:18] <Newbie_> Broadcom 4352 wifi doesn't show up, nothing seems to be fixing it, made several forum posts, if anyone can advise?
[19:18] <Mathisen> Newbie_, "nothing seems to be fixing it" what have you done ?
[19:19] <Mathisen> Newbie_, for example first thing i would do is " sudo apt install firmware-b43-installer " with cable ofc then reboot
[19:20] <rypervenche> Wouldn't it be this?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Broadcom_STA_Wireless_driver_.28Proprietary.29
[19:21] <Newbie_> Well that's problem 1, i have no internet to do that, my laptop has no ethernet port
[19:21] <rypervenche> Newbie_: You'll probably want to get a USB-to-Ethernet cable for your laptop.
[19:22] <rypervenche> Newbie_: That having been said, it is possible to do this from a chroot.
[19:22] <underd0g> :quit
[19:22] <Newbie_> I'm living in a student house where the cables don't work, is there anyway around this or is it my only resort to buy the adapter+cable?\
[19:22] <Newbie_> oh
[19:23] <rypervenche> Newbie_: I don't know if your knowledge will be enough to do that though. But you could boot up a liveCD and then chroot into your system while asking for help on IRC.
[19:23] <Mathisen> Newbie_, find out the dependencies of the package download them on other computer transfer to your laptop
[19:23] <rypervenche> Or yeah, if there aren't many dependencies, you could do that too.
[19:24] <Mathisen> Newbie_, then just install " sudo dpkg -i Packackage "
[19:24] <poorUser> Hi people! have anyone experienced freeeeeze problems with 17.04?
[19:24] <Newbie_> I'm going to try that, thank you :)
[19:24] <pavlos> Newbie_: does your laptop have a CD drive? you could insert and ubuntu disk, drivers are in the pool dir
[19:24] <Newbie_> it doesn't :(
[19:24] <Newbie_> it's a dell xps13
[19:26] <th0r> Newbie_, download the ubuntu iso file, copy (do not burn) the iso onto a usb drive, and use fuseiso to mount it and access the drivers
[19:31] <nies>  hello, am new to ubuntu and I need your help, i am not getting any sound from my laptop.please help
[19:32] <nies> could someone please help me, please
[19:33] <poorUser> nies: right click over volume button, check that the audio uses the right driver
[19:34] <soop> nies: did audio ever work?
[19:34] <nies> in play though box nothing is being displayed, its empty
[19:34] <poorUser> nies: you've found the problem, but i cannot help you furthermore :(
[19:35] <nies> soop: yes audio worked, but yesterday I updated to ubuntu 16 , and from then am getting this issue
[19:35] <nies> but why @poorUser??
[19:36] <poorUser> nies: out of my knowledge :(
[19:36] <soop> alsamixer work?
[19:37] <nies> @soop, please help
[19:37] <soop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[19:38] <poorUser> yeah better try the linked guide
[19:38] <soop> and this as well
[19:38] <soop> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/sound-nosound.html
[19:38] <aadi> hey all, Is there any way to lock a particular directory ?
[19:38] <l9> that moment when you realise you made something work but has no use for it
[19:38] <soop> aadi: lock it how?
[19:39] <kbosch> hi there, can anyone explain to me why a raid10 consisting of 3 320gb and 1 500gb hdds is 560Gb in size?
[19:39] <aadi> soop, So that it requires password to open it
[19:40] <poorUser> aadi: you can encript folders, there are several methods, choose the one you like
[19:40] <methew> aELK question.. when we write a grok pattern %{USER:user} .. we can user the "user" as the field name while creating mapping for the index.. right or wrong?
[19:40] <Newbie_> Hey, i was getting the b43 installer and driver, it says it's unsupported for the BCM4352 (mine) and does not work, is there anything else i can try to fix my wifi?
[19:40] <Newbie_> Should i just go for the STA?
[19:40] <aadi> poorUser, But I don't know any :(
[19:40] <methew> any ELK user here
[19:41] <pavlos> aadi: https://askubuntu.com/questions/104542/how-to-encrypt-individual-folders
[19:42] <aadi> pavlos, Thanks alot :)
[19:42] <poorUser> aadi: just google "encrypt folder ubuntu", it's plenty of tools, graphical or command line ones
[19:42] <aadi> poorUser, Yes :)
[19:43] <pavlos> Newbie_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/590442/how-can-i-install-broadcom-wireless-adapter-bcm4352-802-11ac-pcid-14e443b1-r
[19:44] <Newbie_> Thank you :)
[19:44] <poorUser> aadi: obviusly depends on your needs, if you need to just lock a folder, or something more complex, is up to you.
[19:45] <Newbie_> P.s is it the same i download this elsewhere and transfer with a usb and install?
[19:46] <pavlos> Newbie_: look at the STA - No Internet section ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_Internet_access
[19:46] <Newbie_> Thanks a million!
[19:48] <poorUser> aadi: the simplest way is to just install Cryptkeeper, name of the folder, password -> create.
[19:52] <jerry> hello
[19:53] <soop> ?
[19:54] <justalex_> hi
[19:56] <lilian23> hey, i am getting strange behaviour as root. # id
[19:56] <lilian23> uid=0(root) gid=0(root)
[19:56] <lilian23> but cant access /dev/mem: /dev/mem: Operation not permitted
[19:56] <lilian23> either flashrom is telling me: ERROR: Could not get I/O privileges (Operation not permitted).
[19:56] <lilian23> i've recently updated the kernel of my ubuntu to 3.19.0-80-generic
[19:57] <lilian23> any guess what it could be?
[19:59] <pavlos> lilian23: ls -l /dev/mem shows ...
[20:04] <hyper3xpl0iter> hey guys, I want to make an updated package for Ubuntu, Ubuntu only offers Nagios 3 in it's repository. What is the best/proper way to make a package for Nagios 4? first I'd like to know how to properly go about it as I'm new to Ubuntu packaging. But eventually I'd like to be able to make the package good enough to qualify for being put into the Ubuntu repositories for others to be able to use. Any
[20:04] <hyper3xpl0iter> hints or links would be greatly appreciated. Should I start with the Source for Nagios from Ubuntu's repositories? I should I start right off the bat with the latest source from Nagios' Github page?
[20:08] <lilian23> pavlos: crw-r----- 1 root kmem 1, 1 мая    3 19:03 /dev/mem
[20:08] <sirru5h> hyper3xpl0iter, have you checked out the following https://www.nagios.com/solutions/ubuntu-monitoring/?gclid=CMqj2pbD1NMCFQuAfgod5rkIVQ
[20:08] <pavlos> lilian23: that looks ok
[20:09] <sirru5h> there is a pdf for installing to ubuntu
[20:09] <lilian23> pavlos: the thing is I was able to make such request before i updated my kernel
[20:09] <konrados> Hi! I want to find all links to a directory, I two options here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/429247/how-to-find-and-list-all-the-symbolic-links-created-for-a-particular-file - why the second answer: `find / -lname /path/to/original/dir` has much less votes than the first one:  `find -L /dir/to/start -xtype l -samefile ~/Pictures` - doesn't the first solution do the same thing, while being much simpler?
[20:10] <onomatopiea> I have full disk encryption enabled - how can I login remotely?
[20:10] <konrados> I mean: doesn't the `-lname` do the same thing, while being much simpler?
[20:11] <sirru5h> in addition the following may shed more light https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/nagios.html
[20:12] <energizer> I have a label printer Brother QL-710W, and its LPR and CUPS drivers. The printer is plugged in, detected and installed, but nothing happens when I press print.
[20:12] <energizer> What can I do?
[20:13] <hyper3xpl0iter> I'm sorry, could you please copy and paste what you wrote? My machine rebooted on me and I lost what you said before I could see it
[20:13] <pavlos> lilian23: does this help? https://superuser.com/questions/562249/attempting-to-access-ram-dev-mem-says-operation-not-permitted
[20:15] <sirru5h> ouch alright
[20:15] <sirru5h> hyper3xpl0iter, have you checked out the following https://www.nagios.com/solutions/ubuntu-monitoring/?gclid=CMqj2pbD1NMCFQuAfgod5rkIVQ
[20:16] <sirru5h> there is a pdf that details installing to ubuntu on that page
[20:16] <sirru5h> as well as http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nagios-core-4-1-1-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus-server.html
[20:19] <sirru5h> I hope that helps hyper3xpl0iter
[20:21] <lilian23> pavlos: i think it willl help. I did not know about STRICT_DEVMEM=y, i think they've suddenly decided to include it in the latest version as default. thanks
[20:21] <anddam> hello
[20:21] <lilian23> will reboot and test not
[20:21] <lilian23> now*
[20:21] <anddam> is alt-` a default shortcut for cycling windows in the current app?
[20:22] <hyper3xpl0iter> sirru5h: yes, I've seen and know how to install it, However I'm hoping to make a new updated package for the server, tools, and NRPE, as Ubuntu only has Version 3, and I'd like to make a new package for the latest Nagios 4
[20:22] <anddam> I changed keyboard I and I keep going there to cycle terminal windows, this keyboard use a composition key for ` so I figure that's not being correctly sent
[20:22] <hyper3xpl0iter> again I know how to install it, I'm just hoping to make a package out of it so other can easily have and user Version 4 as well
[20:23] <sirru5h> oh like a .deb
[20:26] <sirru5h> hyper3xpl0iter, http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[20:26] <minimec> energizer: Do you see the printer icon in the top bar. Are there any pending print jobs?
[20:26] <anddam> and is this setting I'm referring to System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Switch windows of an app directly?
[20:28] <Aivis-Ubuntu_Mat> Sorry for being noob :D why is my touchpad not working on Ubuntu Mate? I am now in Live CD mode. i think about installing it. Touchpad is working in Lubuntu and Ubuntu
[20:28] <sirru5h> you can make a .deb out of src using that walkthrough
[20:29] <zamba> i
[20:31] <zamba> i'm trying to migrate a bunch of users that previously used blowfish crypt for the passwords.. this has been deprecated in more modern systems, but for now it's easier to copy the old users to the new system and then update the passwords naturally whenever the password has to be changed.. but right now i'm not able to set new passwords
[20:31] <zamba> i'm getting: crypt_r: Don't know 0
[20:31] <zamba> Error: Password NOT changed.
[20:35] <RalphBa> hi all
[20:36] <RalphBa> is there a way to build library unittests using dub without them getting executed?
[20:49] <energizer> minimec: yes
[20:50] <energizer> ive tried it a bunch of times, and sometimes it says "processing", sometimes "pending"
[20:50] <minimec> energizer: ok. So first remove that pending job and check in the >settings>printer GUI, if the printer is marked 'ready'.
[20:51] <energizer> minimec: yes
[20:51] <minimec> energizer: meaning you removed the pending job and the printer is 'ready'? ;)
[20:51] <energizer> minimec: yes
[20:53] <minimec> energizer: Ok. ;) Now check your printer (hardware) if everything is ready and try once again...
[20:54] <energizer> minimec: actually sorry it says "Idle"
[20:55] <energizer> uh it worked
[20:55] <energizer> im totally at a loss
[20:55] <minimec> energizer: Nice ;)
[20:55] <energizer> minimec: thanks
[20:56] <minimec> energizer: NO problem.
[20:56] <RalphBa> can anyone explain me, why a mutex requires __gshared to even work but an array doesn't need anything like shared?
[20:59] <skinux> Weird problem. Sometimes I find I can't restore apps by clicking on them on the bottom panel, I have to use ALT+TAB to switch. Is this a known issue?
[20:59] <skinux> When this occurs, I usually can't close applications using their X button either, sometimes I can't even access individual application menus.
[21:04] <friendimaginary> !MirtheN WILEY.DATA.SCIENCE.FOR.DUMMIES.2015.RETAIL.EPUB.EBOOK-kE.epub
[21:04] <rafaz> Hi, can anyone help me? I formatted my computer the wrong way using C:\ and D:\ at the same time. Then I used partition manager and deleted C:\ which led me into a big error on my computer. Only Ubuntu works there... I wanna have my Windows back, can anyone help me out? I tried so many stuff I'm feeling desperate I have no clue what to do.
[21:06] <compdoc> you deleted a partition?
[21:07] <rafaz> yea
[21:07] <rafaz> C:\
[21:07] <rafaz> and it broke my Windows
[21:07] <YankDownUnder> rafaz, "Hirens Boot Cd" - or "System Rescue Linux"
[21:07] <rafaz> I can only use Ubuntu now and my computer lost a lot of performance
[21:07] <compdoc> windows usually has a couple or partitions, small and large
[21:07] <compdoc> or=of
[21:07] <rafaz> what is that? I'm really bad onto this things YankDownUnder
[21:08] <YankDownUnder> rafaz, They are "tools" for recovering partitions that have been damaged or deleted.
[21:08] <rafaz> How can I recover them on linux?
[21:09] <YankDownUnder> rafaz, You can try to use a utility called "testdisk" - which is in the repos.
[21:10] <compdoc> if you exactly recreated the deleted partition , it might work again, but doesnt sound you had the knowledge to do any of this in  the first place
[21:10] <rafaz> I installed Windows Partition Manager
[21:10] <rafaz> then I deleted C:\
[21:10] <rafaz> and bam
[21:10] <rafaz> rip windows!!
[21:10] <YankDownUnder> rafaz, Try "testdisk" before any other damage is done.
[21:10] <rafaz> how can I try it, YankDownUnder?
[21:11] <YankDownUnder> rafaz, Install the program through the "Software Center" or from the terminal. It's called "testdisk".
[21:11] <YankDownUnder> rafaz, That should be your FIRST thing to do. Your absolute first priority.
[21:13] <rafaz> ok
[21:13] <rafaz> im gonna do it
[21:13] <YankDownUnder> rafaz, It's not like you have heaps of choices...but that depends on your priorities...(I don't run MS Windows, so it's not a priority in the least)
[21:13] <YankDownUnder> :)
[21:15] <rafaz> i started it now YankDownUnder
[21:15] <rafaz> i have a lot of stuff on here
[21:15] <YankDownUnder> rafaz, Good luck - peace and blessings.
[21:16] <YankDownUnder> rafaz, IN THE FUTURE - I hope you're going to be slight more careful in what you're doing.
[21:16] <rafaz> thx
[21:16] <Bashing-om> rafaz: Homework: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step ; http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ .
[21:17] <tomreyn> also the first step in data recovery is to duplicate the media and to work on the copy
[21:18] <tomreyn> never on the original
[21:19] <tomreyn> this way you have more than a single chance to recover the data.
[21:22] <YankDownUnder> tomreyn, Have two or more "utilities" working on retrieving the data on two or more different systems...(redundancy along with getting something with one set of tools and mixing it all up in the end)
[21:23] <lavinho> good night
[21:24] <lavinho> how to unlock samsung e1200 ?
[21:24] <tomreyn> YankDownUnder: thanks for the suggestion, i don't have any data loss here, though.
[21:24] <tomreyn> lavinho: does it run ubuntu?
[21:24] <lavinho> no
[21:24] <lavinho> imei
[21:24] <tomreyn> what is this channel called?
[21:25] <paven> lol..
[21:25] <lavinho> ubuntu
[21:25] <tomreyn> okay, can you now add one to the other and make a conclusion?
[21:25] <YankDownUnder> tomreyn, Did that in a production environment...and when "forensic recovery" stuff lands in my lap here, that's what I do. Create multiple copies of the data, work on the separate "copies" on separate machines with separate tools. I combine the data in the end and hand back all the copies and resultant data.
[21:26] <tomreyn> i see
[21:28] <studio-user455> hey gang
[21:28] <studio-user455> Ubuntu Studio install trouble
[21:28] <studio-user455> will not install Grub
[21:28] <studio-user455> New Acer
[21:29] <rea> xdcc send!
[21:29] <studio-user455> Chose install along side
[21:29] <studio-user455> can any one help me?
[21:29] <rea> ping _ADN_
[21:29] <tomreyn> !ot | rea
[21:30] <studio-user455> where do i register
[21:31] <tomreyn> !register | studio-user455
[21:31] <studio-user455> grub install failed cant boot
[21:32] <linton> is there a version of `dpkg` available for 16.04 that works with package names containing the '~' character?
[21:33] <boB_K7IQ> Any idea what the best way to reset my password is for ununtu on my win7 laptop with grub installed ???  Somehow it forgot or changed my main password.
[21:33] <nacc> linton: ~ is not allowed in package names
[21:33] <boB_K7IQ> I do have a USB  stick with ubunto on it
[21:33] <nacc> linton: ref: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Source
[21:33] <boB_K7IQ> *ubuntu
[21:34] <linton> why so i'll have to rename ubuntu supplied kernel packages prior to installing them?
[21:34] <nacc> linton: what are you referring to?
[21:35] <linton> i downloaded `linux-image-extra-4.8.0-51-generic_4.8.0-51.54~16.04.1_amd64.deb` using `apt-get download` but i can't install it with `dpkg`
[21:35] <nacc> linton: where did you download it from?
[21:35] <linton> the tilde have only been there since april-ish, so i wondered if the dpkg version on 17.04 accepts them
[21:35] <nacc> linton: that's not the package name, that's the .deb name
[21:36] <nacc> linton: and, afaik, dpkg has supported that just fine
[21:36] <nacc> linton: can you pastebin the message you are getting?
[21:36] <linton> normal ubuntu ppas - https://pastebin.com/a9SeKW3H
[21:36] <nacc> linton: those aren't PPAs.
[21:36] <nacc> linton: just to be clear
[21:37] <tomreyn> boB_K7IQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[21:38] <tomreyn> don't try to change it from windows, it'll just cause havoc
[21:39] <linton> nacc: sorry, are they just referred to as "sources"? here is my output https://pastebin.com/DxSPfmx6
[21:42] <nacc> linton: ok, why are you using dpkg to install the package?
[21:42] <nacc> linton: directly, i mean
[21:42] <linton> is there a different way i can install .deb files to avoid that error? i was going to just script a rename to remove the bad chars
[21:42] <linton> speed really
[21:43] <nacc> linton: i mean, why aren't you using `sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade` ?
[21:43] <nacc> linton: end users should not need to use dpkg directly at all
[21:43] <linton> it was faster to dpkg install all the .debs ignoring the dependencies rather than using `apt-get install`
[21:43] <nacc> linton: that's ridiculous
[21:43] <nacc> linton: 'ignore the dependencies' defeats teh whole point of packages
[21:43] <linton> haha
[21:43] <tomreyn> the speed difference between apt and dpkg is (bedides downloads and some management taks)  resolving dependencies and conflicts. which you have chosen to neglect.
[21:43] <nacc> and it won't ignore them eventually, if they are actual dependencies
[21:44] <linton> right, but do you know a location where i can fetch just the `aufs.ko` file?
[21:44] <nacc> linton: what are you talking about?
[21:44] <nacc> linton: why do you want just the aufs.ko file?
[21:44] <nacc> linton: you are jumping around from unsupported thing to unsupported thing
[21:45] <linton> i've been told thats who i am.. the packages i'm trying to install are `linux-image-extra` which contain the aufs kernel module, i have been pulling just that file to drop onto servers to speed the installation of docker
[21:46] <nacc> linton: what about post-install hooks or potential dependencies?
[21:46] <linton> i've found dropping that file into `/lib/modules...` then running `depmod && modprobe aufs` accomplishes my goal
[21:46] <linton> i run the install (skipping deps) on a disposable server
[21:47] <tomreyn> wait, are you a windows sysadmin?
[21:47] <tomreyn> sorry, pretend i did not ask this, it doesn't belong here
[21:47] <linton> it lives for <hour. ha, negative linux/solaris but mostly golang dev now
[21:48] <nacc> linton: if you only need the aufs.ko then you don't need to install the package
[21:48] <tomreyn> you should not just place random files in random directories. that's one of the main points of packagement management
[21:48] <nacc> linton: extract it and pull the .ko out
[21:48] <nacc> linton: but i think you're being incredibly shortsighted in your choices and it's not really a supported thing you're doing
[21:49] <linton> oh great! i didn't even think about just extracting it
[21:50]  * tomreyn runs
[21:50] <linton> for the record (afaicr) this is the only file i "randomly" place, but i will re-evaluate the way i'm doing this
[21:51] <nacc> linton: but i'm testing in a lxd of 16.04 and it works just fine to install .debs with ~ in them (via apt, which in turn is using dpkg). So `apt policy dpkg` ?
[21:52] <tomreyn> the right way to do this sustainably would be to create your own package with just the files you need, with dependencies / confliucts configured to prevent installation of the other package. this custom package could be loaded from a ppa you maintain.
[21:53] <linton> i did recently update dpkg and try again. it was 1.1, now is 1.18.4ubuntu1.2
[21:53]  * tomreyn runs to safe room
[21:53] <linton> tomreyn: good call, i'll investigate aufs dependencies
[21:54] <nacc> linton: but i'm testing in a lxd of 16.04 and it works just fine to install .debs with ~ in them (via apt, which in turn is using dpkg). So `apt policy dpkg` ?
[21:55] <linton> nacc: https://pastebin.com/Ly6aS3Jy
[21:56]  * linton cackles like a mad scientist to running tomreyn
[21:57] <nacc> linton: LOL, PEBKAC
[21:58] <linton> nacc: i install on digitalocean, so i did what i could to rule them out of the mix, i updated my `/etc/apt/sources.list` and updated, then installed the newest dpkg before i jumped on
[21:58] <nacc> linton: read man dpkg
[21:58] <linton> ah shux
[21:58] <linton> i figured
[21:58] <nacc> linton: specifically what --ignore-depends does
[21:58] <nacc> linton: it takes an argument, which is a package name (not a .deb)
[21:58] <nacc> linton: so i believe dpkg is taking your .deb filename as the package name, which illegally contains ~
[21:59] <nacc> (the proper name is 'linux-image-extra-4.8.0-51-generic') or whatever
[21:59]  * linton is ashamed...
[21:59] <linton> good catch, odd it worked until the `~` was introduced into the name, thanks
[22:00] <nacc> linton: well, it's possible it was shortcutting before
[22:00] <nacc> linton: but i wouldn't rely on undocumented behavior
[22:01] <nacc> linton: hence also the specific message you got, which is reflecting debian policy for package names (not version strings)
[22:06] <RonaldsMazitis> I have question about vlc
[22:06] <linton> interesting, it seems to only conflict when i use `--ignore-depends`
[22:06] <RonaldsMazitis> how can I change default folder it finds videos at
[22:06] <RonaldsMazitis> btw Ubuntu on gnome is so bad
[22:06] <RonaldsMazitis> I mean using gnome programms is good, but gnome shell is impractical
[22:06] <linton> RonaldsMazitis: https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=97548
[22:07] <nacc> linton: right, ignore-depends is what takes the argument of a pckage name
[22:07] <RonaldsMazitis> linton
[22:07] <RonaldsMazitis> %appdata%\vlc\vlc-qt-interface.ini
[22:07] <nacc> linton: so you're changing (possibly overloading) what the .deb means
[22:07] <RonaldsMazitis> is that windows dir?
[22:08] <RonaldsMazitis> the guy who thinks ubuntu will run gnome
[22:08] <RonaldsMazitis> sorry it will suck hard
[22:08] <linton> ahhh ok, yep, thanks again
[22:08] <nacc> linton: np
[22:09] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: please stick to support topics here, opinions can go elsewhere (#ubuntu-offtopic or /dev/null :)
[22:09] <linton> RonaldsMazitis: `vim ~/.config/vlc/vlc-qt-interface.conf`
[22:10] <RonaldsMazitis> but it's complete truth, just try openbox instead of gnome, and You will see what I'm talking about
[22:10] <RonaldsMazitis> sorry again opinion
[22:10] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: your opinion is not truth, please take it elsewhere
[22:11] <RonaldsMazitis> I can speak out few more reasons 1)openbox with one panel takes less space 2)speed
[22:11] <m3e33> Hey guys. Using ubuntu 16.04 using the nvidia binary drivers version 375.39 (proprietary tested)  . Getting this weird thing happen to the windows when I resume the computer from sleep ( http://i.imgur.com/AuvjqUw.png ) . When I do sudo service lightdm restart the problem gets fixed. But then it closes all my applications when I run it. So its really annoying when I try to resume work.
[22:11] <m3e33> This started happening like a month or two ago.
[22:12] <blackflow> m3e33: known issue
[22:12] <blackflow> some report fixed with latest nvidia drivers (381 I think)
[22:12] <m3e33> oic
[22:12] <blackflow> m3e33: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-375/+bug/1667158
[22:12] <nacc> RonaldsMazitis: no one is stopping you from using openbox, this channel is for support
[22:12] <linton> m3e33: with the funky window bars and such? i had that too. sticking to 367 worked for me, havent tried 381 personally
[22:14] <m3e33> 381 is in beta yes? Ill wait a bit for the devs to push a stable one. Thanks blackflow and linton.
[22:14] <linton> probably common knowledge, but you have to specify version 367 when installing nvidia-367 or else you'll get 375
[22:14] <blackflow> m3e33: there's a link to the PPA in that bug report, if you feel like trying it out
[22:16] <m3e33> blackflow: haha no :D this is my work computer. Can't experiment too much, remember this being a pain to set up Ubuntu on this computer (an asus rog. I think i used the 267 drivers few months ago. With that i had the whole login loop issue. :D . Thaks for letting me know this is a known issue, so im happy :D
[22:17] <justin__> hi
[22:18] <justin__> hi dabba
[22:19] <justin__> hi everyone
[22:20] <justin__> hi?
[22:20] <nacc> justin__: this is not a chat channel
[22:20] <nacc> justin__: ask a technical support question, if you have one
[22:22] <dannyLopez> I have a problem, I edited the fstab and I did not load the system, now I edited the grub with init=/bin/bash and I deleted the lines that I put in, but still no X, just let me log in as root in ttys and X
[22:24] <nacc> dannyLopez: you've rebooted since then?
[22:24] <nacc> dannyLopez: logging in as root is unusual on ubuntu
[22:25] <dannyLopez> nacc: I activate the root user
[22:25] <dannyLopez> nacc: root@FIGADM00205:~/.config# whoami  root
[22:25] <nacc> dannyLopez: which is not typical for Ubuntu
[22:26] <dannyLopez> nacc: I reboot, but show me a progresive cont (1min:30sec) and then "Pres Ctrl+D or type root password"
[22:26] <nacc> dannyLopez: then it didn't not succesfully boot
[22:26] <nacc> dannyLopez: that's the emergency shell
[22:26] <nacc> dannyLopez: it was presumably waiting for something
[22:27] <nacc> dannyLopez: note that if you edited your /etc/fstab in the emergency shell, that is not persistent
[22:27] <nacc> dannyLopez: you should boot off a live USB and fix your fstab on disk
[22:27] <dannyLopez> nacc: I edit in mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1
[22:28] <dannyLopez> nacc: In the file persist the change
[22:33] <justin__> hi
[22:33] <justin__> hi latz
[22:34] <justin__> hi everyone
[22:34] <justin__> want to chat ?
[22:34] <compdoc> no
[22:35] <Grorco1> Hi I'm trying to compile my first kernel 4.4.66 from linux.org, when I go to make it I get openssl/opensslv.h file/folder doesn't exist. Does anyone know where I would find these files so I can finish the build?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> justin__: chit chat in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel :)
[22:36] <compdoc> Grorco1, is openssl installed?
[22:38] <Grorco1> compdoc, it shows up when I run dpkg -l openssl so I'm not sure if I need it inside the new kernel, or if there is something wrong with my install
[22:38] <compdoc> i have the file here:  /usr/include/openssl/opensslv.h
[22:39] <compdoc> you install build essentials?
[22:40] <Grorco1> compdoc, hmm I don't have it there
[22:41] <compdoc> do you have it at all?
[22:41] <Grorco1> compdoc, I thought I had, I'm on like my 5th install trying to get a driver to work properly, so maybe not
[22:41] <Ben64> what are you actually trying to accomplish
[22:41] <Grorco1> Ben64, a kernel patch for the amdgpu-pro driver
[22:42] <Ben64> why, and why 4.4
[22:42] <RalphBa> got a question to typeof(this). if I have A : B and do this in ctor of B I get B but when I do this in A I get also B. How to get A in A?
[22:43] <compdoc> heh
[22:43] <compdoc> no idea what you just said
[22:43] <RalphBa> moment will prepare an example
[22:43] <RalphBa> if dpaste would work :(
[22:44] <RalphBa> ok, have a class B inherited from A
[22:44] <compdoc> pastebin.com?
[22:44] <Ben64> hastebin.com paste.ubuntu.com sprunge.us termbin.com
[22:44] <Grorco1> Ben64, it was just listed as stable
[22:44] <RalphBa> dpaste is nice because it compiles
[22:44] <Ben64> RalphBa: seems like you're in the wrong channel though
[22:44] <RalphBa> oh, sorry
[22:45] <Grorco1> Ben64, I'm not positive which kernel the patch is for 4.4, 4.8? Amd just refers 16.04 users to the patch file.
[22:45] <Ben64> Grorco1: link?
[22:48] <dannyLopez> [17:22] <dannyLopez> I have a problem, I edited the fstab and I did not load the system, now I edited the grub with init=/bin/bash and I deleted the lines that I put in, but still no X, just let me log in as root in ttys and X
[22:48] <Grorco1> Ben64, http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx    17.10 is the latest driver
[22:49] <Grorco1> Ben64, the patch is at https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9443007/
[22:49] <Ben64> you don't need that patch
[22:51] <Grorco1> Ben64, but it's supposed to fix the exact issue I seem to be having
[22:52] <Ben64> you're using vulkan?
[22:52] <Grorco1> Ben64, no using openCL
[22:53] <Ben64> that patch isn't about opencl
[22:55] <Grorco1> Ben64, well crap :( I guess no fix for me
[22:56] <Ben64> don't allocate more memory than you have
[22:58] <Grorco1> Ben64, is there a way to tell the system to stop doing that?
[22:59] <Grorco1> Ben64, or is it completely dependent on what the programs are throwing at it?
[23:01] <Merlin__> Hi
[23:04] <babahulk> hello
[23:04] <babahulk> I was wondering if anyone technically savvy can try to help me out with an issue I am having
[23:07]  * YankDownUnder looks at channel topic again
[23:08] <blackflow> !ask | babahulk
[23:09] <babahulk> Lol thank you
[23:11] <YankDownUnder> Was there a question?
[23:11] <babahulk> So I have Ubuntu Dual Boot, it has been working well.  Recently I modified partitions to make my ubuntu one larger than it was.  I finally rebooted and can no longer boot up through grub.  I can get to the loader but can't get into Ubuntu.  I wasn't sure if there was anything I can do from the Windows partition or if anyone had recommendations to repair?  When  try booting it starts and drops me into a shell
[23:12] <YankDownUnder> babahulk, http://linuxpitstop.com/repair-grub-boot-loader-on-ubuntu-linux/
[23:12] <babahulk> wow thanks
[23:12] <babahulk> that looks like a great resource i've never seen
[23:13] <YankDownUnder> babahulk, It works better than a hammer.
[23:13] <Bashing-om> babahulk: ^ also " Recently I modified partitions " may a;sp change the UUID. confirm that /etc/fstab UUIDs agree now with what 'sudo blkid ' reports .
[23:13] <babahulk> that was my next try
[23:14] <babahulk> ok thank you very much bashing
[23:14] <babahulk> I will let you know how it works
[23:15] <Bashing-om> babahulk: K; we are here - to help .
[23:17] <babahulk> One question, can i do all of it via command line?
[23:17] <babahulk> since I can't open any applications can it run background?
[23:19] <Bashing-om> babahulk: You can certainly verify the UUIDs from terminal .
[23:20] <dlam> is there a package or something to install better fonts for web development?   im trying to get ``font-weight:600`` to render in chrome on my laptop with a slightly bolder look, but it seems to not work =(
[23:20] <Grorco1> Ben64, I could kiss you! lol Thank you, I didn't think about checking, the application I was getting the hangs from has built in gpu throtling :)
[23:26] <solicito> can you ubuntu be installed on usb drive?
[23:27] <YankDownUnder> solicito, Yes.
[23:27] <YankDownUnder> solicito, https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[23:28] <gsilvapt> YankDownUnder, that's not an ubuntu installation, that's a media installer
[23:29] <gsilvapt> Oh okay, that guide explains the difference. Sorry
[23:34] <ohnothisguydrunk> hiya! is there someone workin' on keeping unity7 after ubuntu gives it up?
[23:35] <YankDownUnder> ohnothisguydrunk, There are already "forks" being worked on...it ain't gonna "die"...that's for sure...it's just not going to be the primary "desktop/window mangler" any longer...
[23:37] <seklko> ?join
[23:38] <ohnothisguydrunk> YankDownUnder: very good
[23:38] <YankDownUnder> ohnothisguydrunk, And I can tell you (from experience) that I honestly gave up on Gnome back in the 1.4.6 days...and THIS version...well...it's simple, clean, and it just works. Very ergonomic and decidedly simple. IMHO.
[23:40] <kory> hello
[23:40] <ohnothisguydrunk> YankDownUnder: this version of unity have helped me through so many troubles with making art that as I see (propably like the gnome 2 people say) no function without it
[23:41] <kory> exit
[23:41] <kory> quit
[23:41] <YankDownUnder> ohnothisguydrunk, We all have our preferences. That is the beauty of all linux versions (and most unix)
[23:41] <ohnothisguydrunk> indeed
[23:41] <ohnothisguydrunk> YankDownUnder: :)
[23:42] <kory> hey guys
[23:42] <kory> wassup
[23:43] <ohnothisguydrunk> YankDownUnder: i hope unity stays
[23:43] <ohnothisguydrunk> kory: hi :)
[23:43] <kory> Hey drunkguy
[23:44] <ohnothisguydrunk> kory: wooooooo!!!! here is a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaFWGNlWdYc
[23:44] <kory> wtf
[23:44] <kory> nah fam
[23:44] <kory> im good
[23:44] <bazhang> ohnothisguydrunk, thats not topical here at all
[23:45] <ohnothisguydrunk> bazhang: sorry
[23:45] <kory> so whats this whole irc thing about?
[23:45] <blazeme8> If I have a package that depends on "packageB_2.2.0-123" but "packageB_2.2.0-124" is also available in the repo, why do I receive the "The following packages have unmet dependencies" saying 124 is going to be installed?
[23:46] <bazhang> kory ask on #freenode , this is ubuntu support only
[23:52] <ccormier> ahoy
[23:55] <latino31> how come changes in the sound gui ubuntu 17.04 are not persistant?