| andrewlsd | Morning superfly. (just waving hopefully before you go to sleep) | 06:17 |
|---|---|---|
| andrewlsd | mornings chesedo MaNI pavlushka paddatrapper theblazehen | 06:17 |
| pavlushka | Morning andrewlsd :) | 06:17 |
| andrewlsd | o/ | 06:34 |
| chesedo | morning pavlushka andrewlsd | 06:49 |
| pavlushka | chesedo: Morning :) | 06:50 |
| andrewlsd | morning vulcan | 07:01 |
| theblazehen | Morning andrewlsd, all | 07:14 |
| vulcan | Morning andrewlsd and everyone else :) :wave: | 07:27 |
| paddatrapper | Morning andrewlsd, theblazehen, vulcan, chesedo, pavlushka | 07:45 |
| pavlushka | Morning padda | 07:46 |
| vulcan | :wave: | 07:47 |
| theblazehen | hi paddatrapper | 08:12 |
| chesedo | ola theblazehen vulcan paddatrapper | 08:19 |
| theblazehen | hi chesedo | 08:30 |
| * andrewlsd sees paddatrapper over in ZaTech :-) | 09:03 | |
| paddatrapper | andrewlsd: yup. Occasionally I surface | 09:43 |
| === theblazehen[m] is now known as theblazehen | ||
| theblazehen | test message - do I exist? | 09:47 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: yes | 09:50 |
| andrewlsd | you exist | 09:50 |
| theblazehen | ty andrewlsd | 09:50 |
| * theblazehen is using the matrix IRC bridge | 09:50 | |
| andrewlsd | oooh. shiny | 09:52 |
| andrewlsd | with theblazehen.com? | 09:52 |
| theblazehen | @appservice-irc:matrix.org: Nah, just riot.im | 09:53 |
| theblazehen | Federation doesn't work with SSL SNI | 09:53 |
| theblazehen | So won't work with reverse proxy | 09:53 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: Unread count in rambox.pro should work using matrix bridge, rather than quassel web | 09:55 |
| theblazehen | And can customize notifications per room | 09:56 |
| andrewlsd | ok, you may need to help me thru that rather slowly. do I need a matrix.org account? | 09:56 |
| theblazehen | Yeah | 09:56 |
| theblazehen | So, go to riot.im, register | 09:56 |
| theblazehen | https://gist.github.com/fstab/ce805d3001600ac147b79d413668770d and covers the rest | 09:56 |
| andrewlsd | ta | 10:00 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: You can also customize notification levels per room | 10:01 |
| theblazehen | Have group notifications off for all rooms, but on for eg #ubuntu-za | 10:02 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | greets from the matrix | 10:07 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | theblazehen: | 10:09 |
| theblazehen | hi andrewlsd-matrix | 10:09 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | ot, I know, but can phone Riot.im app do multiple logins? | 10:11 |
| * theblazehen doesn't think so | 10:12 | |
| Kilos | hi guys struggling here | 10:18 |
| Kilos | how can i set a static ip on kde please from cli | 10:18 |
| Kilos | router and modem keep changing something and i cant get connected | 10:18 |
| theblazehen | Hi Kilos. Once off, or permanent | 10:18 |
| Kilos | google shows pages and pages of stuff | 10:19 |
| Kilos | permanent would be best i spose seeing as i want to stay connected | 10:19 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | and, cable or wireless? | 10:19 |
| Kilos | cable from router throuch a hub | 10:20 |
| Kilos | i need to be in the 10.0.0.whatever range | 10:21 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | k. first thing: is hub (switch) reliable and/or are cables healthy too. | 10:21 |
| Kilos | yip | 10:21 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | k, then you should be able to right-click your network connections. | 10:22 |
| Kilos | i have been connected before but when power goes and router restarts i cant get back | 10:22 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | ^ that's weird | 10:22 |
| Kilos | and very frustrating | 10:23 |
| * andrewlsd-matrix wonders whether the problem isn't actually your hub, and not the router. | 10:23 | |
| Kilos | kde nm doesnt show where i can change ip | 10:23 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | Kilos: do you know if you have an IP address? | 10:23 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | at the moment | 10:23 |
| Kilos | yes ill get it | 10:23 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | assuming you're not using that computer to message now. | 10:24 |
| Kilos | https://bin.snyman.info/mmmcjqbb | 10:25 |
| Kilos | thats with 3g in and eth out | 10:26 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | please post contents of `/etc/network/interfaces` | 10:26 |
| Kilos | my ip is now that 127.whatever now right | 10:26 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | to make sure you're not overriding anything there. | 10:26 |
| Kilos | ok sec | 10:26 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | so | 10:26 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | enp0s25 is a wired ethernet | 10:27 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | not sure what `wwp0s29u1u2` is | 10:27 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | i always make my system just use `eth0` and `wlan0` notation | 10:27 |
| Kilos | # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) | 10:28 |
| Kilos | auto lo eth0 | 10:28 |
| Kilos | iface lo inet loopback | 10:28 |
| Kilos | iface eth0 inet static | 10:28 |
| Kilos | address 10.0.0.10 | 10:28 |
| Kilos | netmask 255.255.255.0 | 10:28 |
| Kilos | gateway 10.0.0.2 | 10:28 |
| Kilos | dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 | 10:28 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: Wireless attached via usb interface | 10:29 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | ok, so that interfaces line for eth0 would prevent network-manager activating device `eth0` | 10:29 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | if you want it _always_ up at boot time, you'd need to add a line `auto eth0` | 10:29 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | otherwise you'd need to `sudo ifup eth0` | 10:29 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | now | 10:29 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd-matrix: "auto lo eth0" ? | 10:29 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | not sure whether that will affect your enp0s25 interface | 10:29 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | Kilos: do you have a reason to want to keep your interfaces named for the driver they are using? | 10:30 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | or can we revert you to `eth` names? | 10:30 |
| Kilos | i just want it to work | 10:30 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 | 10:30 |
| Kilos | must i connect the eth here then run ip addr again | 10:31 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | connect the eth, then run `sudo ifup eth0` | 10:31 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | suggest you turn off wifi | 10:32 |
| Kilos | says failed | 10:32 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | when you do that | 10:32 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | (sorry, ignore that wifi suggestion) | 10:32 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | failed with "no such interface" ? | 10:32 |
| Kilos | that long command runs | 10:33 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | you can paste to bin.snyman.info again | 10:33 |
| Kilos | but doesnt finish | 10:33 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | that's the output from `grep bios`` from my /etc/default/grub: `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"` | 10:34 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | :-( not a command | 10:34 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:34 |
| Kilos | how do i stop it here | 10:35 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | ctrl+C | 10:35 |
| Kilos | # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) | 10:36 |
| Kilos | auto lo eth0 | 10:36 |
| Kilos | iface lo inet loopback | 10:36 |
| Kilos | iface eth0 inet static | 10:36 |
| Kilos | address 10.0.0.10 | 10:36 |
| Kilos | netmask 255.255.255.0 | 10:36 |
| Kilos | gateway 10.0.0.2 | 10:36 |
| Kilos | dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 | 10:36 |
| Kilos | thats with eth in | 10:36 |
| Kilos | nm shows router connected but no internet | 10:36 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | ok, so | 10:36 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | lets try ping that doesn't need DNS | 10:36 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | ping -n 196.25.1.1 | 10:37 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | ping -c3 -n 196.25.1.1 (if you want to limit number of pings) | 10:37 |
| Kilos | ping works | 10:37 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | output of `ip r` | 10:37 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | (which is ip route show) | 10:38 |
| Kilos | default via 41.246.67.206 dev wwp0s29u1u2 proto static metric 700 | 10:38 |
| Kilos | 10.42.0.0/24 dev enp0s25 proto kernel scope link src 10.42.0.1 metric 100 | 10:38 |
| Kilos | 41.246.67.204/30 dev wwp0s29u1u2 proto kernel scope link src 41.246.67.205 metric 700 | 10:38 |
| Kilos | 169.254.0.0/16 dev wwp0s29u1u2 scope link metric 1000 | 10:38 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | cool, so there is no 10.0.0.10 address there | 10:39 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | enp0s24 is connected to network 10.42.0.0/24 | 10:39 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | please post output of `sudo dhclient enp0s25` followed by output of `ip r` again. | 10:40 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | I'd like to fix this by reverting to traditional device names. Does anyone here have any reason why that would be bad (specific to Kilos) | 10:45 |
| * theblazehen doesn't | 10:46 | |
| andrewlsd-matrix | ok. | 10:46 |
| Kilos | 3g disconnected | 10:46 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | Kilos: please show me what `/etc/default/grub` currently contains. ie pastebin output of cat /etc/default/grub | 10:46 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | once that's done, am going to ask you to make a change to /etc/default/grub then run grub-update and then reboot. | 10:49 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | output after that of "ip addr show" will show devices like eth0, wlan0 and your /etc/network/interfaces entry will then be used since device name will match. | 10:50 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | I'm guessing Kilos is still fighting with his 3G connection. | 11:10 |
| Kilos- | ai! | 11:14 |
| Kilos- | i have taken the router down and brought it here now | 11:15 |
| Kilos- | ian also battling with a win 7 pc | 11:15 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | hehe | 11:16 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | well, not really | 11:17 |
| Kilos- | now i just want a static ip here in the 10.0.0.whatever range | 11:17 |
| Kilos- | then ill try get the router going again | 11:17 |
| Kilos- | ian cant be offline because of work | 11:17 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | I meant it in the sort of laugh or else I'll cry | 11:17 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | ok | 11:17 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | so | 11:17 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | : please show me what /etc/default/grub currently contains. ie pastebin output of cat /etc/default/grub | 11:17 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | once that's done, am going to ask you to make a change to /etc/default/grub then run grub-update and then reboot. | 11:17 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | output after that of "ip addr show" will show devices like eth0, wlan0 and your /etc/network/interfaces entry will then be used since device name will match. | 11:17 |
| Kilos- | using a 2g mtn signal here now | 11:17 |
| Kilos- | https://bin.snyman.info/mmm98pve | 11:20 |
| Kilos- | thats with the eth cable unplugged | 11:22 |
| Kilos- | head thumpig so slow to follow andrewlsd-matrix sorry | 11:22 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | np | 11:24 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | please edit /etc/default/grub so that | 11:24 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" | 11:24 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | becomes | 11:25 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" | 11:25 |
| Kilos- | done | 11:27 |
| Kilos- | now reboot andrewlsd-matrix ? | 11:28 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | sudo update-grub2 | 11:28 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | please run that to update your grub configs. so set the kernel parameter | 11:28 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | once the grub update has finished, yip. | 11:28 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | then you should be able to happily use the router | 11:29 |
| andrewlsd | andrewlsd-matrix: hello | 11:36 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | :-( sad face. Kilos not yet back online. | 11:41 |
| Kilos | sjoe now i battled. cant connect with 3g anymore but can connect through router if it is right here by mye | 12:12 |
| Kilos | me as well | 12:12 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | you using KDE+Network-Manager for the 3G connection? | 12:14 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | glad you're online | 12:14 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | can you pastebin or post here, output of | 12:17 |
| andrewlsd-matrix | ip r | 12:17 |
| * andrewlsd has jumped back to quassel | 12:19 | |
| MaNI | blue pill? | 12:26 |
| andrewlsd | yip | 12:38 |
| Kilos | what yip? | 12:39 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:39 |
| andrewlsd | phew | 12:39 |
| Kilos | had to remove that line in grub | 12:39 |
| Kilos | now using 3g again | 12:39 |
| andrewlsd | for your 3G device to work? | 12:39 |
| Kilos | yes | 12:40 |
| andrewlsd | that is _very_ odd | 12:40 |
| andrewlsd | in that case. you're left with sudo dhclient enp0s5 | 12:40 |
| Kilos | showed usb modem connected but no internet | 12:41 |
| andrewlsd | ah | 12:41 |
| andrewlsd | internet modem probably was connecxted | 12:41 |
| andrewlsd | but | 12:41 |
| andrewlsd | default gateway was via ethernet | 12:41 |
| Kilos | ah | 12:41 |
| andrewlsd | so 3g connection was "alive" but your computer wasn't routing anything thru it | 12:41 |
| andrewlsd | ethernet takes precendence over everything else | 12:41 |
| Kilos | right | 12:41 |
| andrewlsd | (normally) | 12:41 |
| andrewlsd | since it is usually the more reliable connection | 12:42 |
| andrewlsd | I manually "ip route replace dev ppp0" | 12:42 |
| andrewlsd | or "ip route replace dev 3g" | 12:42 |
| Kilos | also router worked for 2 mins about then also stopped so i had to get 3g working here again | 12:42 |
| andrewlsd | you're very unlikely to be able to auto-switch between cable and 3g | 12:43 |
| Kilos | oh do you do that when you plugin a 3g everytime | 12:43 |
| andrewlsd | yip | 12:43 |
| Kilos | cant i set my ip to withing that 10.0.0.2 range | 12:44 |
| andrewlsd | I manually replace the default route if I want to stay connected to LAN (for stuff like smb shares and printers) but still want internet traffic to go via 3g instead of lan | 12:44 |
| Kilos | then i can firght the router at least | 12:44 |
| andrewlsd | sudo ip addr add 10.0.0.10/24 dev enp0s5 | 12:44 |
| andrewlsd | that will add the ip, but not set the default gateway | 12:45 |
| Kilos | is it permanent? | 12:45 |
| andrewlsd | no | 12:45 |
| Kilos | so every rebust run thatoot i m | 12:46 |
| andrewlsd | you cannot set it permanently if you want to be able to use 3g internet | 12:46 |
| Kilos | reboot | 12:46 |
| Kilos | ai! | 12:46 |
| andrewlsd | permanently was the GRUB line | 12:46 |
| andrewlsd | but . | 12:46 |
| andrewlsd | if you want to use ethernet | 12:46 |
| andrewlsd | you can configure /etc/network/interfaces to *not* set a default gateway | 12:47 |
| andrewlsd | and then when you use 3g it will *add* a default gateway | 12:47 |
| Kilos | that sounds good | 12:47 |
| andrewlsd | (you can do this via "edit connections" in your network manager too) | 12:47 |
| andrewlsd | so add a # in front of the line in /etc/network/interfaces that contains gateway | 12:48 |
| Kilos | ok | 12:48 |
| andrewlsd | put back the stuff from earlier: | 12:48 |
| Kilos | that long line | 12:48 |
| andrewlsd | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" | 12:48 |
| andrewlsd | suggest you copy it in | 12:49 |
| Kilos | ty lemme do that | 12:49 |
| andrewlsd | and #comment out the previous | 12:49 |
| andrewlsd | after update-grub2 and reboot | 12:49 |
| andrewlsd | you won't have a default gateway via LAN | 12:49 |
| andrewlsd | you will need to use 3G for internet | 12:49 |
| andrewlsd | unless you manually add the default gateway routing via LAN | 12:50 |
| andrewlsd | like | 12:50 |
| andrewlsd | sudo ip r add default via 10.0.0.1 | 12:50 |
| andrewlsd | if it doesn't seem to work | 12:50 |
| andrewlsd | unplug lan | 12:50 |
| andrewlsd | disconnect 3g, connect 3g | 12:50 |
| andrewlsd | and you should be back | 12:50 |
| Kilos | let me work through that ty andrewlsd | 12:51 |
| andrewlsd | try to copy output of "ip r" to text editor | 12:51 |
| andrewlsd | so you can later pastebin it for comparison | 12:51 |
| Kilos | now? | 12:51 |
| andrewlsd | I'll be mostly offline around 15h00 | 12:51 |
| andrewlsd | you can do whenever. | 12:51 |
| Kilos | or after changes | 12:51 |
| andrewlsd | before, during and afteer | 12:51 |
| andrewlsd | before change | 12:51 |
| Kilos | ok | 12:51 |
| andrewlsd | after change, with lan | 12:51 |
| andrewlsd | after change via 3g | 12:51 |
| Kilos | ok lemme try | 12:52 |
| andrewlsd | :-) | 12:52 |
| andrewlsd | :thumbsup: | 12:52 |
| Kilos | i go reboot | 13:04 |
| Kilos | sudo update-grub | 13:07 |
| Kilos | /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 35: /etc/default/grub: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution | 13:07 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:08 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: do a "sudo kate /etc/default/grub" | 14:47 |
| pavlushka | there is a error in /etc/default/grub file as I presume | 14:48 |
| pavlushka | *a/an | 14:48 |
| Kilos | lemme see | 14:49 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: I can post my /etc/default/grub in a paste and you can copy :p | 14:50 |
| pavlushka | I have green and yellow ^^ | 14:50 |
| Kilos | ty | 14:51 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: just curious, have you tinkered the /etc/default/grub ? otherwise.... | 14:52 |
| pavlushka | theblazehen: ping | 14:52 |
| Kilos | yes we added a command by GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" | 14:53 |
| superfly | o/ | 16:14 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 17:40 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 17:54 |
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