[00:49] <CarlFK> Jordan_U:   I need to be able to tweak the kernel= init= append= line to add in file=preseed.cfg and then put preseed.cfg on the same media.
[00:53] <adek06> hello
[00:55] <michelle> hola
[00:56] <adek06> nice to meet you
[01:08] <loelyhwains> test
[01:09] <_john> just curious what are you testing?
[01:10] <_john> unregistered nicks can speak you don't need /mode +v
[01:11] <_john> if anyone is using IRC over ssh I would be interested to hear about it
[01:12] <_john> or if anyone is running python scripts to enhance the overall IRC experience I would like to hear about that too
[01:13] <_john> I used mirc scripting like 20 years ago but whatever language that was I don't think it is relevant now but I'm not sure
[01:17] <kk4ewt> _john well most of it should sorta work in xchat and hexchat
[01:18] <_john> what language is it exactly?
[01:18] <_john> or what lib
[01:18] <ryao> How do I enable core dumps on Ubuntu 16.04?
[01:19] <ryao> I tried the standard ulimit and sysctl variables, but they didn't work. :/
[01:20] <ryao> Nevermind. I made a mistake. It isn't crashing.
[01:20] <pynki> its a mistake that it isn't crasheing? :o
[01:21] <_john> maybe he does not need to dump if it is not crashing
[01:21] <_john> he made a mistake thinking it was crashing?
[01:21] <pynki> !info linux-crashdump | ryao
[01:22] <pynki> ryao, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html
[01:23] <_john> has anyone noticed dpkg returns nothing for some of the bash commands? and sometimes I need to sudo dpkg to get correct information?
[01:23] <_john> ubuntu 17.04
[01:23] <_john> for dpkg -s
[01:24] <_john> example sudo dpkg -s su
[01:25] <_john> package not installed
[01:25] <_john> example sudo dpkg -s sudo
[01:25] <_john> Status: install ok installed
[01:25] <ChaiTRex> _john: su is a command name, not a package name.
[01:26] <ChaiTRex> _john: dpkg -s takes a package name.
[01:26] <_john> I'm trying to learn how linux works at every level
[01:26] <_john> how it boots how it does everything
[01:26] <pynki> _john then do not focus on specific tools
[01:27] <_john> yeah I noticed that red hat vs void vs debian are completely different
[01:27] <_john> different folders different package manager different boot loader
[01:27] <ryao> pynki: Thanks. IT turned out that the stochastic testing stuff I am using wasn't crashing, which is why it didn't work. I was confused.
[01:27] <ryao> s/IT/It/
[01:28] <ChaiTRex> _john: You might like more minimal distributions that have you set a lot of things up rather than having them preconfigured and set up like in Ubuntu.
[01:28] <_john> so in theory learning linux would include learning all the bootloaders all the package managers or none
[01:28] <pynki> buy a cheap board like a raspi or whatever and try to make your own kernel work on that. that will teach you some lessons :D like: how to compile a kernel, how to deploy it, how not get totally crazy, how to get totally crazy ans stuff like that
[01:29] <_john> ChaiTRex that is a good point
[01:30] <pynki> _john you might want to consider to not use a distribution at all
[01:30] <ChaiTRex> _john: You also might like something like VirtualBox as a sandbox.
[01:30] <_john> I think maybe less user friendly distros is what prevented me from going to %90 linux in my life
[01:30] <pynki> _john, sure, but they are preventing from learning anything 90% of the time
[01:31] <_john> now that I have a nice ubuntu hardware + software setup I am more inclined to play with it a lot
[01:31] <satanejo> how can I get some help?
[01:31] <_john> but I am getting some cheap small computers to do void install by hand
[01:32] <ChaiTRex> satanejo: By asking questions. It might be a while before someone responds, since people won't answer if they don't know how to help.
[01:32] <pynki> satanejo, just ask your question - if someone can help he might do it
[01:32] <satanejo> pynki
[01:33] <satanejo> I have asked before, so maybe nobody knows the answer
[01:33] <satanejo>  I have a problem with a radeon 4330 and with the modprobe modeset=1 it gets the right resolution and then it shut downs suddenly
[01:33] <_john> I definitely noticed that without the VM there is nothing stopping me from running hardware at %100 load
[01:33] <_john> or doing bad firmware updates to hardware
[01:33] <_john> lots of risky stuff
[01:33] <smokeyj> Why in the name if GOD would the host.conf and hostname.conf change?
[01:33] <satanejo> can't go futher of 1024x768 resolution
[01:34] <satanejo> on ubuntu 17.04
[01:34] <smokeyj> 30 mins I spent on that shit
[01:34] <_john> but then in the VM you can't really experiment with what would be a real world scenario controlling hardware and memory
[01:34] <pynki> _john, thats why i said: get cheap hardware you can happyly destroy :D
[01:35] <pynki> smokeyj, wrong write permissions on the files?
[01:35] <_john> oh yes I already thought of that
[01:35] <_john> I have been shopping for two weeks
[01:35] <_john> I don't like the odroid U4 because there are two different speeds of cores
[01:36] <_john> so I see videos of people running all 8 cores but half of them finish tasks in much less time
[01:36] <_john> so I would need to compile all my apps and figure out how to setup selecting cores
[01:36] <pynki> _john. yes - but offtopic :P
[01:36] <satanejo> I have tried everything but doesn't work, and on the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver my card is supported. I don't know what to do
[01:37] <smokeyj> _john, I agree
[01:37] <pynki> satanejo, you upgraded or did a fresh install of 17.04?
[01:37] <pynki> satanejo, did it worked ever before?
[01:37] <satanejo> is a fresh install pynky
[01:37] <satanejo> yes, it worked before in other versions of ubuntu
[01:38] <smokeyj> satanejo, I have around 5000USD of crap. You can always buy more
[01:39] <satanejo> jajaja smokeyj, this crap is a MSI X600 notebook, but I don't have more
[01:40] <satanejo> is like 5 years old
[01:40] <smokeyj> Then dont
[01:41] <satanejo> i need this stupid netbook to work somehow
[01:42] <smokeyj> pynki, no premissions. Just stupid ass ubuntu
[01:42] <smokeyj> satanejo, dont have logs my znc was down
[01:42] <smokeyj> Whats the isue
[01:42] <smokeyj> issue
[01:44] <satanejo> I think the graphic card it doesn't work properly with radeon drivers, I tried the ppa of oibaf, but doesn't work. When it boots it gets to the login screen and then shuts down
[01:45] <satanejo> the only way I can log in is with radeon.modeset=0 on the grub comandline option
[01:45] <smokeyj> Try installing fedora just for a test
[01:45] <satanejo> wich version?
[01:45] <smokeyj> I run 25
[01:46] <satanejo> do you have a Radeon card too?
[01:46]  * satanejo is downloading fedora
[01:46] <smokeyj> nvidia but the problem should be the same
[01:47] <satanejo> hmm, let's try then
[01:47] <smokeyj> Then fedora is a little lighter to. Thats nice. And systemd
[01:48] <smokeyj> Had to install that on my ubuntu to not hassle with ip tables
[01:50] <smokeyj> Can I ask an off topic question?
[01:50] <smokeyj> Programming
[01:51] <satanejo> I never used fedora before, let's give it a try.
[01:51] <smokeyj> Lighter.
[01:51] <smokeyj> Maybe a little harder
[01:53] <smokeyj> Say I hav a function that I want to call 10 times. The int in this case will have a different number and thus a different output.
[01:53] <smokeyj> Writing 10 If seems bad programming
[01:57] <pynki>  an array and calling with the index as argument?
[01:57] <pynki> passing the int as argument itself?
[01:58] <smokeyj> Yes...
[01:58] <pynki> pn me to discuss that. its really oftopic :F
[02:02] <vimes> Hello! Any body know of a way to not open shutter after I take a picture with it? Just copy it to clipboard and that's it.
[02:05] <pynki> vimes, -e
[02:05] <pynki> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/shutter.1.html
[02:05] <pynki> will not copy to clipboard but its a start. raed the manpage :D
[02:08] <vimes> thank you pynki!
[02:10] <vimes> pynki, do you know how I got it to be copied into the clipboard too? I've set the settings inn the app but the terminal commands don't seem to agree.
[02:14] <pynki> vimes, sorry i do not know. would need to google too
[02:15] <vimes> it seems impossible, weird. There is probably some other program that can copy a file I save of it though.
[02:16] <pynki> vimes, you might want to just open the file with the destination program
[02:16] <vimes> the destination programs are facebook@work and Slack chats though
[02:17] <pynki> they cant be scripted?
[02:17] <vimes> <- is not the admin of anything at all. but perhaps. I just thought there would be an easier way
[02:18] <pynki> gnome screenshot perhaps
[02:23] <pynki> vimes, scrot has a exec option to call programs on the saved image
[02:24] <pynki> perhaps that could help
[02:24] <vimes> hmm I'll look into it. but scrot made horrible images on my system, full of weird lines
[02:26] <kirisaki> test
[02:26] <arooni> is there a good news reader app so i can read the nytimes ( i have a digital subscription)
[02:28] <kirisaki> exit
[02:28] <satanejo> well smokeyj, fedora it doesn't run on livecd :(
[02:29] <smokeyj> satanejo, fedora doesnt run on a live CD?
[02:29] <satanejo> tired, thanks for the help. going to sleep
[02:29] <smokeyj> Buy a new laptop
[02:29] <satanejo> no smokeyj when is almost there it shuts down
[02:30] <satanejo> my wish to be able to buy a new one :(
[02:30] <smokeyj> Then the graphic is not the problem
[02:30] <jamesd> keep windows or what ever OS you have on it now, and create a vm on it and put ubuntu on that
[02:30] <smokeyj> If you see shit in the screen
[02:30] <satanejo> I can run ubuntu on 1024 resolution with radeon.modeset=0
[02:31] <smokeyj> that could be a separate issue
[02:32] <satanejo> if I choose vga=868 which is native on this laptop does the same thing, a moments of login screen and zap, shuts off
[02:32] <pynki> arooni, a web browser?
[02:32] <FuZi0N> when i run a script in bash and it asks me to choose a username is there any way to automatically enter the username when i run the script? for example: fuzi0n > ./script ?
[02:33] <jamesd> FuZi0N: try   echo  "blah"  |  ./script
[02:34] <jamesd> if that is the only input... if it wan'ts a passwd too.. you may need to use a tool like expect to do it.
[02:34] <pynki> FuZi0N, is it your own scripts?
[02:34] <FuZi0N> it worked!
[02:34] <FuZi0N> thanks :)
[02:35] <FuZi0N> nope its not pynki
[02:35] <DoUcH3LoRd69> If I have a problem with amdgpu-pro, would it be acceptable to ask for advice here?
[02:36] <Sparrow_> As long as you didnt add a ppa to try and get to work already somone will know a fix
[02:37] <DoUcH3LoRd69> Ok, I haven't added any ppa's.
[02:37] <Sparrow_> difine your question the best you can
[02:38] <kirisaki> gas
[02:39] <kirisaki> oi
[02:39] <DoUcH3LoRd69> Ok. So I installed amdgpu-pro after extracting the download file, and the installer ran to completion. I rebooted, but the graphics card is still not getting the performance and using "sudo lshw -C video" in the terminal, it tells me that amdgpu is being used, not amdgpu-pro.
[02:40] <kirisaki> morning
[02:40] <Sparrow_> Ok, so you did go outside repos
[02:40] <FuZi0N> hmmm
[02:40] <DoUcH3LoRd69> I downloaded the driver from AMD's website.
[02:40] <FuZi0N> jamesd: so the cmd works when i type it in terminal but not when i try to make it a service
[02:40] <FuZi0N> [Service]
[02:40] <FuZi0N> ExecStart=echo "qazero" | /usr/local/bin/glances -w --password --username -B 127.0.0.1
[02:40] <FuZi0N> any ideas?
[02:41] <DoUcH3LoRd69> Should I not have done that?
[02:41] <FuZi0N> Failed to start glances.service: Unit glances.service is not loaded properly: Invalid argument.
[02:41] <Sparrow_> People just need to know what you have done so far
[02:42] <Sparrow_> Far too often people mess up their systems just wanting the very latest driver when they didnt have a problem to begin with
[02:42] <DoUcH3LoRd69> Ok. I installed version 17.10-414273 and I am running on ubuntu 16.04
[02:43] <DoUcH3LoRd69> Would you recommend uninstalling and reinstalling from the repos?
[02:44] <Sparrow_> Im not the person to help you untangle that.  Good luck.
[02:44] <DoUcH3LoRd69> Ok, thank you.
[02:45] <jamesd> FuZi0N: what does that command do.. i can't find any manpage for glance that takes those options via google
[02:45] <FuZi0N> it starts glances server
[02:45] <FuZi0N> but before it starts it takes username as input
[02:45] <pynki> FuZi0N, you tried: --os--username?
[02:45] <FuZi0N> it won't work
[02:45] <FuZi0N> i need to | it in
[02:46] <FuZi0N> because it prompts you after running glances
[02:46] <Jordan_U> CarlFK: That can be done with the normal Ubuntu server image.
[02:46] <CarlFK> Jordan_U: url?
[02:47] <pynki> FuZi0N, are we talking about this piece of sowftware? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/glance.1.html
[02:47] <Sparrow_> DoUcH3LoRd69, try reading this  https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=229229#p1211876
[02:48] <jamesd> FuZi0N: check its documentation most tools allow you to store user name in a dot file so you don't have to re-enter the details.
[02:48] <FuZi0N> nope
[02:48] <FuZi0N> http://glances.readthedocs.io/en/latest/quickstart.html?highlight=listen
[02:48] <Sparrow_> Is your card in that list
[02:49] <DoUcH3LoRd69> Thanks! My card is on the list.
[02:49] <Sparrow_> cool
[02:49] <belem1994> alguém do brasil?
[02:49] <CarlFK> zcat boot.img.gz | sudo dcfldd of=/dev/sdc    puts the image on a usb drive.  good.  it boots.  good.  but the partition table is .. scary?   fdisk -l  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24514689/
[02:49] <belem1994> i dont think so, hey people good evening
[02:49] <DoUcH3LoRd69> I will give this a try.
[02:49] <Jordan_U> CarlFK: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/s390x/apbs02.html
[02:50] <Sparrow_> Let me know how that works out
[02:50] <CarlFK> Jordan_U: I mean url of the normal Ubuntu server image
[02:51] <jamesd> http://glances.readthedocs.io/en/latest/config.html    FuZi0N   ... and with that i'm off to bed.. lots of bit buckets to empty tomorrow
[02:54] <FuZi0N> i read that
[02:54] <FuZi0N> but didnt help
[02:54] <scythefwd> good evening folks.. relatively new to linux.. got a few questions
[02:54] <scythefwd> 1. anyone actually able to stream from amazon prime or vudu?
[02:55] <Sparrow_> I just do hulu and netflix, sorry
[02:55] <scythefwd> yeah. I already got those running lol..
[02:56] <scythefwd> been since about suse 9 since I used linux.. glad to see the hw support has come so far
[02:57] <xangua> scythefwd: what does Amazon prime use? HTML5, MS Silverlight?
[02:57] <FuZi0N> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32968506/how-to-pipe-output-to-a-file-when-running-as-a-systemd-service
[02:57] <scythefwd> thing its silverligt
[02:57] <FuZi0N> this ended up working ;)
[03:02] <scythefwd> good point on the silverlight.. I'll go google it.. Theres an foss re-implimentation right?
[03:02] <Jordan_U> CarlFK: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server Use Startup Disk Creator, then add the preseed file and change the grub.cfg.
[03:04] <CarlFK> Jordan_U: that gets me this, right? http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntu-16.04.2-server-amd64.iso
[03:05] <pynki> CarlFK, that the right image
[03:05] <pynki> for a sevrer install
[03:06] <CarlFK> pretty sure the .iso is a read only fs, so I can't modify the boot parameters or add the preseed file
[03:07] <pynki> CarlFK, that why he recommended usb creator to get it on an usb stick
[03:07] <pynki> Startup disk creator to be exact
[03:09] <Sparrow_> usb image writer
[03:12] <CarlFK> https://launchpad.net/usb-imagewriter "A GUI tool to write .img files like produced by the ubuntu-mobile team for UME to USB Keys"    gui no good.  I'm scripting all this.
[03:14] <sam_wong> Hi, why didn't the command "lshal" work in ubuntu 17.04?
[03:19] <scythefwd> well, got my amazon instant video sorted.. needed the hal package
[03:32] <selsper> can you search on terminal?
[03:33] <selsper> I'm installing something, and I noticed something so I want to go back and check it
[03:35] <Jordan_U> selsper: ctrl+shift+f or Search -> Find in gnome terminal.
[03:35] <selsper_> found it ty
[03:35] <selsper_> wondering if u can read this
[03:35] <selsper_> Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_01.bin for module i915
[03:37] <selsper> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/firmware
[03:37] <selsper> was dis, ty
[03:38] <selsper_> or at least
[03:38] <selsper_> im not sure
[04:00] <yaboo> why is ubuntu 17.04 sooooooo broken
[04:00] <yaboo> my wireless card does not work
[04:00] <yaboo> laptop refuses to shutdown as network services hang forever sascupme with
[04:01] <yaboo> should I roll back to 16.10
[04:03] <selsper_> wats this
[04:03] <selsper_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:07] <pynki> yaboo, if you roll back then to 16.04
[04:12] <spider_x> Hello, when I logout, it logs me out to blank screens. I tried googling but don't understand what they want me to do ;D
[04:14] <llama299> this channel goin' 1995??
[04:15] <spider_x> What do you mean?
[04:16] <llama299> we should go 1995 on this channel
[04:17] <spider_x> Right after I fix my problem ;D
[04:23] <pynki> spider_x, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:24] <pynki> and is it just black? or a blinking cursor? a ubuntu logo? anything?
[04:24] <pynki> can you type and it shows characters? or simple beutiful blackness?
[04:24] <llama299> how does this group have 1780 people yet is so dead???
[04:25] <spider_x> pynki: I got the LTS version 16 something, and it is black as in monitors to go to sleep mode, like they are not receiving a signal
[04:25] <spider_x> but I can clearly hear the computer being awake
[04:25] <llama299> whaaaa?
[04:25] <yaboo> well 17.04 is broken massively
[04:25] <llama299> seriously?
[04:25] <spider_x> had the totally same issue in version 17
[04:26] <spider_x> llama299: it is normal for IRC, lots of bots and such
[04:26] <llama299> yeah but this is the most populated server.......at all
[04:27] <spider_x> also pynki I am using lightdm, I tried switching to gdm3 but then it wouldn't let me boot into the computer, it would get stuck on the loading
[04:27] <llama299> also, if you're having a problem installing Ubuntu the best solution is to not install it.
[04:27] <llama299> you know Windows 10 is also free now right?
[04:27] <spider_x> that's not a solution :D
[04:28] <llama299> that's a great solution acually
[04:28] <llama299> sorry *actually
[04:28] <pynki> llama299, windows if never free if you look at it from the right angle
[04:28] <pynki> if you walk far enough you will come to the border...
[04:28] <llama299> neither is ubuntu, since they are asking for donations when you download it
[04:29] <pynki> thats your free choice.
[04:29] <llama299> same with windows 10, it's "free" but they do stuff like track you. it's all good :)
[04:29] <pynki> anyways - win 10 is not "free" anymore
[04:30] <llama299> the big difference is that windows will work out of the box and Ubuntu will not.
[04:30] <spider_x> well, that's gnu/linux for you
[04:30] <spider_x> pynki: I wonder if my issue could be due to a graphics driver?
[04:31] <spider_x> I could try upgrading it to the latest version
[04:31] <llama299> point of fact: there's no windows IRC channel where ppl are asking about blinking cursors or gdm3. :)
[04:31] <spider_x> because it doesn't use those things?
[04:31] <llama299> I own a MAC let's discuss that for a bit :P
[04:32] <spider_x> I don't understand why are we discussing this on a very specific irc channel? This is clearly for people who need help with ubuntu
[04:32] <llama299> anyways, Imma go to sleep. Have fun installing adobe flash so you can go to youtube guys :)
[04:32] <spider_x> "Official Ubuntu Support Channel" not the place to tell people not to use ubuntu lol
[04:35] <kostkon> spider_x, he was trolling
[04:35] <roothorick> [xfgk
[04:36] <spider_x> oh well, anyway I am now installing what seems to be a later driver v381
[04:36] <spider_x> hopefuly that might fix the logout issue
[04:37] <cristobal_> any update on the apu issues :)) ? got the latest mesa drivers and still some times stays black until reboot then the gui shows up:P
[04:40] <spider_x>  hmm pynki updating my drivers from propriatery to open source did the job.
[04:40] <spider_x> Logsout fine now.
[04:40] <NetworkNoob> Hello
[04:40] <NetworkNoob> Anyone know what this means: i2c i2c-1: sendbytes: NAK bailout.
[04:41] <cristobal_> i got open mesa drivers propietary drivers are awfull
[04:42] <NetworkNoob> My screen goes black for like 20 seconds every time I click anything to do with system settings
[04:42] <NetworkNoob> ubuntu 16
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: when did this start to happen? system up to date?
[04:47] <NetworkNoob> Brand new installation of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[04:47] <NetworkNoob> I wrote more details here:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/911666/screen-goes-black-only-when-clicking-system-settings-comes-back-on-after-10-to
[04:47] <NetworkNoob> I don't even really know where to start for troubleshooting.
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: ok lets have a look at your graphics drivers first
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: sudo lshw -C video
[04:49] <NetworkNoob> thank you so much. 1 sec
[04:49] <NetworkNoob> *-display
[04:49] <NetworkNoob>        description: VGA compatible controller
[04:49] <NetworkNoob>        product: Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
[04:49] <NetworkNoob>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[04:49] <NetworkNoob>        physical id: 2
[04:49] <NetworkNoob>        bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
[04:50] <NetworkNoob> oops
[04:51] <NetworkNoob> i got muted. forgot to use partbin.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: what does driver= say?
[04:51] <NetworkNoob> Ok, here is the graphics driver
[04:52] <NetworkNoob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24515153/
[04:52] <NetworkNoob> driver=i915
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: you dont have hybrid card right? combined with nvidia or something?
[04:53] <NetworkNoob> I don't think so.
[04:53] <NetworkNoob> http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/withdraw/M82.pdf
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: ok good, doublecheck lsb_release -a if your up to date to .2
[04:54] <NetworkNoob> Description: Ubuntu 16.04.02 LTS
[04:54] <NetworkNoob> sorry
[04:54] <NetworkNoob> Description: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[04:54] <NetworkNoob> thats the one
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: also good
[04:54] <kostkon> NetworkNoob, uname -r ?
[04:54] <NetworkNoob> 4.8.0-51-generic
[04:54] <kostkon> NetworkNoob, ok
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: lenovo thinkcentre m82 website shows nvidia & amd as optional, so i presume you only got intel graphics
[04:57] <NetworkNoob> I bought this machine from someone off craigslist.  They didn;t really know any details about it, their company had it in a back room for a couple years. it was still in plastic, never booted before
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: can you check a tail -f /var/log/syslog and open system settings, if you get any usefull errors?
[04:58] <NetworkNoob> ok
[04:58] <NetworkNoob> one sec
[04:58] <NetworkNoob> It went black for only about 3 seconds this time.  But when it came back the logs had this 3 times:
[04:58] <NetworkNoob> kernel: [ 5211.645181] i2c i2c-1: sendbytes: NAK bailout.
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: holdon im checking
[05:01] <NetworkNoob> Thank you!
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: looks like this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/712075
[05:05] <NetworkNoob> hmm
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: just as a test, can you try to boot a previous kernel? and test creating a new user to see if you have it there?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: lets findout if its a kernel or user thing
[05:06] <NetworkNoob> Yea I would be open to anything.  Like I said, this is a brand new install, I have nothing of importance on here.
[05:06] <NetworkNoob> So how do I do this?
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: (if) you have older kernel hold shift at boot to enter grub, and choose ubuntu(previous) version
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: for the user, just create a new user and login to it
[05:08] <NetworkNoob> Hmm.. ok.  I downloaded the main LTS iso off of the ubuntu website and formatted and installed it from a USB stick
[05:08] <NetworkNoob> will there be a previous kernel available on here if I hold shift?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: that sounds all okay mate
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: not sure, can you check plz?
[05:09] <NetworkNoob> Ok. I will reboot and hold shift
[05:09] <NetworkNoob> BRB
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: depending in time, new kernels come out
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: wb
[05:13] <NetworkNoob> Ok I shut down and rebooted, and held shift
[05:13] <NetworkNoob> nothing happened, just booted to the login screen
[05:13] <NetworkNoob> tried twice
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: should should be able to enter grub, try ESC perhaps? also test create another user
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> *you
[05:15] <NetworkNoob> ok.
[05:23] <babo> hi
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> babo: welcome, what can we do for you?.
[05:23] <babo> who are you
[05:24] <sara2010> any one help me
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !ask | sara2010
[05:24] <babo> what problem?
[05:25] <sara2010> scanner not working in ubuntu
[05:25] <babo> yes scanner...
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> sara2010: wich brand and wich ubuntu version?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> babo: stop that please
[05:25] <babo> don't use scanner
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: welcome back
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | babo
[05:26] <sara2010> hp scanjet 200
[05:26] <sara2010> ubuntu 14.4
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> sara2010: have you installed hplip-data ?
[05:26] <babo> you need view TV
[05:26] <sara2010> yes i have installed hp-lip
[05:26] <sara2010> but not working
[05:27] <NetworkNoob> lotus: I booted into grub, selected kernel 4.8.0-36 generic
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> !ops | babo offtopic
[05:27] <sara2010> babo view tv what is that
[05:27] <babo> just use not scanner
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: thanks for testing mate
[05:27] <babo> play game
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> sara2010: ignore him
[05:27] <babo> strife is very interesting
[05:27] <sara2010> lotuspsychje . . okay.
[05:27] <babo> steam game
[05:28] <NetworkNoob> lotus:  i logged in, and then about 30 seconds later the screen went black, and when it came back it was just CLI
[05:28] <NetworkNoob> no more GUi
[05:28] <sara2010> lotuspsychje .. now i m trying to download ubuntu 17.04
[05:28] <sidetracking> help pls
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> sara2010: it should work on any ubuntu version
[05:28] <sidetracking> how do i change editor to notepadqq
[05:28] <sidetracking> i try update-alternatives --config editor
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> sara2010: does your printer/scanner find your device?
[05:28] <sidetracking> but all i see is 4 options none of them are notepadqq
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: i suggest creating a new bug mate, as the old ones expired and 16.04 still got this issue..
[05:29] <babo> check connector
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: from terminal: ubuntu-bug yourpackage
[05:30] <NetworkNoob> what do you mean "yourpackage"
[05:30] <sara2010> lotuspsychje .. its find scanner
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: means you need to bug against the package that you think conflicts
[05:30] <babo> you need install package 'simplescan'
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> sara2010: what happens when you try to scan?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: that other bug was package linux, as its probably kernel issue
[05:31] <sara2010> lotuspsychje.. no scanner found
[05:31] <babo> ' sudo apt install simple-scan
[05:31] <sara2010> lotuspsychje . i have old scanner musteck 1200 cu plus  its working  with sane
[05:32] <babo> ' sudo apt install simple-scan '
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: try to tell the whole story in the bug also
[05:32] <sara2010> i have try it with simple scan its installed on ubuntu !
[05:32] <NetworkNoob> where do i type the story
[05:32] <babo> i think maybe your printer connection has problem
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> NetworkNoob: after it transfers you to launchpad bug page
[05:33] <NetworkNoob> ok.
[05:33] <NetworkNoob> thanks for all the help lotus
[05:33] <NetworkNoob> exit
[05:33] <NetworkNoob> oops
[05:33] <babo> 한국인이면 한글로 합시다
[05:38] <babo> hey sara you fixed problem?
[05:39] <babo> ?
[05:40] <babo> shes' gone...
[05:41] <sidetracking> is wine considered a windows virtual machine?
[05:41] <sidetracking> virtual environment i mena
[05:41] <sidetracking> mean
[05:42] <Ben64> wine is a compatibility layer that translates windows calls into linux ones (really basically)
[05:42] <sidetracking> thanks lad
[05:59] <adek06> welcome
[05:59] <cloudbud> what is the latest version of zookeeper for ubuntu 14
[05:59] <cloudbud> ans stable as well
[06:01] <nathan> Hello. Can someone tell me if ubuntu mate disable composition when running something on fullscreen like ubuntu lts does?
[06:01] <nathan> Sorry for my english.
[06:01] <adek06> try F11
[06:01] <nathan> I searched on google but I didn't find anything conclusive
[06:02] <nathan> I mean, I saw somewhere on the internet saying that unity automatically disables everything that can use gpu resources while rendering something on fullscreen.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> cloudbud: you already asked that yesterday
[06:03] <nathan> But I don't know for sure if this behavior also happens on mate.
[06:03] <adek06> sorry my English is poor
[06:04] <xangua> nathan: that's a compiz thing I believe, any compositor should be able to do it
[06:04] <nathan> xangua: hmm. I hope so. I would hate if I had to change to unity to have better fullscreen performance. :P
[06:05] <sidetracking> watch me step on the scene
[06:05] <sidetracking> they see the distro and they know who it be
[06:06] <xangua> nathan: Ubuntu mate comes with compiz and Compton preinstalled, at least last time I tried
[06:06] <nathan> xangua: and ubuntu lts also use these guys?
[06:07] <xangua> nathan: use these guys?
[06:07] <nathan> xangua: compiz and compton :D
[06:08] <sidetracking> i cant believe winSCP isn't available for linux
[06:08] <sidetracking> disregarding the name of course..
[06:08] <xangua> I was thinking the same :-P
[06:08] <sidetracking> its like the michael jordan of sftp remote sync tools
[06:26] <thoti> hey
[06:27] <thoti> Anyone know how to run ubuntu-sdk as root
[06:46] <cloudbud> how can I update my apt-repository to install zookeeper 3.4.10 version now its installing zookeeper 3.4.5 version.Please help
[06:47] <EriC^^> cloudbud: type "apt-cache policy zookeeper | nc termbin.com 9999"
[06:48] <EriC^^> and paste the link it gives you here
[06:49] <cloudbud> EriC^^: its shwoing nothing
[06:49] <cloudbud> taking too long to execute
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> cloudbud: we already told you this yesterday
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> !info zookeeper trusty | cloudbud
[07:05] <xXEoflaOEXx> Hi. I just installed Kubuntu 14.04 to bring back my memories from 2016. When I try to put the Bouncy Balls widget, and making it make a bouncing sound (.ogg format) while bounced, it just returns a corrupted sound. The right speaker never plays, while the left speaker returns a corrupted sound. I saw in the mixer the device "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo".
[07:12] <nicericepudding> l
[07:25] <steaminstall> hey guys! i just got my fresh xubuntu going and installed steam, yet i get this when i try to start it: "steam Running Steam on ubuntu 16.04 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0) libGL error: unable to load driver: radeonsi_dri.so libGL error: driver pointer missing libGL error: failed to load driver: radeonsi libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri
[07:26] <steaminstall> Is this lack of installed drivers?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> steaminstall: check sudo lshw -C video whats behind driver= ?
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> !radeon | steaminstall
[07:28] <steaminstall> lotuspsychje: ye, ill be doing that as soon as i do the apt-get update routine, thanks
[07:30] <hateball> steaminstall: does steam launch if you run it with: LD_PRELOAD='/usr/$LIB/libstdc++.so.6' DISPLAY=:0 steam
[07:32] <steaminstall> ok i ran "sudo lshw -C video", this is the output: "*-display                       description: VGA compatible controller        product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0        version: cf        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom      
[07:32] <steaminstall> hateball: yes, it runs, why tho?
[07:34] <hateball> steaminstall: because client is broken, but if you update it now that it started, I think it should behave properly when launching normally
[07:34] <steaminstall> hateball: im in the login screen after the initial update, should i close it and start it normally?
[07:34] <hateball> steaminstall: try that and see if it works
[07:35] <steaminstall> yep, works now, thanks! even with desktop launcher
[07:35] <hateball> steaminstall: also if you intend to be gaming on AMD, I'd suggest using this (unsupported) PPA for improved performance https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[07:36] <hateball> steaminstall: it's because the non-updated steam expects to use fglrx and isnt aware of the opensource driver actually working
[07:36] <steaminstall> hateball: not only amd, the rx460. What are the best drivers for it and how do i make sure i run them?
[07:36] <hateball> steaminstall: that PPA is probably your best bet afaik. I only use nvidia myself
[07:36] <sukhi> Hi. I installed ubuntu 16.04. Its's behind http proxy. I can use FF with this network. But trying to connect apt-get and other tools via terminal is not working. I did export http_proxy=http://user:pass@ip:port  . for https,ftp. also tried to set them in /etc/profile and /etc/environment. BUt apt-get is not able to connect. This problem was not there in 14.04
[07:37] <hateball> steaminstall: you may want to check out #steamlug or #gamingonlinux for more gaming specific help
[07:37] <steaminstall> hateball: thanks, but where do i put this PPA and what is it for?
[07:39] <sukhi> thank you
[07:43] <Kolus> Real quick question, but what chan is best to report a problem with the latest release of Ubuntu as a possible bug.  I dont have a lot of experience with Ubuntu or with this server and any help would be appreciated.
[07:43] <ducasse> !bug | Kolus
[07:45] <Kolus> ubottu, thanks, but I'm kinda not sure how to determine which package.  I've look at similar reports from older versions and it seems to be reoccurring in this distro.
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> !details | Kolus
[07:45] <justxux> Does anyone of you know, how to change mouse button controls,for example assign "ALT+TAB" to one of my side button from my mouse
[07:46] <steaminstall> lotuspsychje: what drivers are best for new amd cards(rx4xx)? open or closed?
[07:47] <Kolus> lotuspsychje, I start Blender, a 3d graphics app, while using the interface the screen jumps, prior windows bleed through for a moment, and cursor positions jump.  It seems to be related to graphics refresh
[07:49] <justxux> steaminstall, I think you can use tests from Phoronix site : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=category&item=Graphics+Cards
[07:50] <steaminstall> justxux: thanks
[07:51] <justxux> steaminstall, you're welcome
[07:52]  * Kolus wonders if I provided enough information
[07:53] <Kolus> I love Ubuntu, but its a learning curve for sure
[07:55] <morten> Well, imagine you had never used windows before, imagine that learning curve
[07:55] <justxux> Yeah Kolus ,it's like finding a generic car,that you can fine tune to your liking and needs,but it takes time and understanding,totally worth it
[07:56] <morten> after some months ubuntu is more easy and logical than windows
[07:56] <morten> windows is a huge behemoth
[07:56]  * Kolus nods
[07:56] <Kolus> Windows just got too bloated and over the years they've taken away too much control from the user, I used to love the command line power, now it's non existent
[07:57] <kunji> Since we're doing car analogies, Windows is like a Maybach or Hummer, etc.... Ubuntu is like a Honda Civic, and some of the other distros, such as Gentoo and Arch are more like kit cars.
[07:58] <justxux> I would say that open source ecosystem and most of the time linux-based OS'es are as logic as you make them :)
[07:58] <kunji> Kolus: Hmm, with power shell I thought that they brought a lot of cmd power back to windows, and also the linux subsystem now.
[07:59] <hateball> steaminstall: the instructions are on the webpage. If you are unsure how to use it, then I suggest you dont :)
[07:59] <Kolus> well, here is a question, is Ubuntu the best distro to do graphics work on?  Or does it really matter?  I know there are other flavors better suited for server security and deployment
[07:59] <steaminstall> hateball: ye, im alrdy being babysitted in gamingonlinux, thanks for linking me :)
[07:59] <hateball> steaminstall: if you are on 16.04 you may also use !hwe to get updated kernel/drivers
[08:01] <steaminstall> hateball: k, thanks!
[08:01] <justxux> There is also a site with great tips : https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/
[08:02] <onomatopiea> If I want to authenticate multiple machines with the same users, how does this work in the linux world? OpenLDAP?
[08:02] <onomatopiea> In Windows it'd involve setting up an AD server
[08:04] <hateball> onomatopiea: openldap is one way yes
[08:05] <onomatopiea> Thanks. I'll see if I can dig out an old box to install it on
[08:06] <hateball> onomatopiea: there's many more layers of headache depending on if you want to share things using SAMBA and what not as well
[08:07] <justxux> Kolus, I don't think there is a major difference,but most app developers test their software on LTS Ubuntu
[08:07] <onomatopiea> hateball: I do want to share via samba..
[08:08] <onomatopiea> hateball: It's just me playing for the sake of learning some linux ops, mostly.
[08:08] <Kolus> justxux I appreciate that, thank you
[08:08] <hateball> onomatopiea: well, being able to google is your best bet here I think. might be some more or less complete guides for setting this up
[08:08] <kunji> onomatopiea: The Arch guide is probably useful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samba/Active_Directory_domain_controller  openldap is part of it
[08:09] <onomatopiea> Thnks :)
[08:09] <Kolus> thanks for the info everyone have a great one
[08:10] <kunji> And the Ubuntu guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-dc.html
[08:10] <justxux> Kolus, I think you could run Blender using terminal then see any abnormalities
[08:11] <maffh> Does anyone know a tool that can measure the total read/write usage of a particular process/command and when the process is done it writes it to a file?
[08:13] <kunji> onomatopiea: Note that I don't think that a linux domain controller can serve windows clients... if my memory is correct and things haven't changed.
[08:14] <kunji> maffh: Maybe pidstat with the -d option: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2014/11/pidstat-examples/
[08:15] <kunji> maffh: Ah, my bad, totals
[08:15] <justxux> maffh, You can use "iotop" package or use this : https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/86875/determining-specific-file-responsible-for-high-i-o
[08:17] <linoge> Quick question, if I install ubuntu on sdb, letting Windows 7 take sda, will GRUB be able to load Windows? It seems like in the installation process GRUB was installed on sda.
[08:17] <Ben64> yes
[08:18] <maffh> justxux: How do you write it to a file when it's done?
[08:19] <linoge> cool, I just guided a friend on installing ubuntu for the first time and he seems to be unable to boot from Windows x).
[08:19] <linoge> so kind of troubleshooting what might have gone wrong
[08:20] <kunji> maffh: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/18840/measuring-disk-i-o-usage-of-a-program  you can use time (/usr/bin/time not the shell builtin time).
[08:20] <linoge> he should be issuing a grub-mkconfig by now
[08:21] <jhonnyBeGood> hi guys
[08:21] <jhonnyBeGood> I have a shell script and it hangs in some point....  I used gdb to try to debug and I got this
[08:21] <justxux> Hmm
[08:21] <justxux> Maybe through pipe
[08:21] <jhonnyBeGood> 0x00007f2bb615d4ca in __GI___waitpid (pid=-1, stat_loc=0x7ffe42997860, options=0) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/waitpid.c:29
[08:21] <jhonnyBeGood> 29	../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/waitpid.c: No such file or directory.
[08:22] <justxux> not an expert in this
[08:23] <jhonnyBeGood> in my shell script it forks a new process ... it seems that the parent process still waiting forever ...
[08:23] <justxux> maffh, https://askubuntu.com/questions/420981/how-do-i-save-terminal-output-to-a-file/420983
[08:24] <justxux> maffh, https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-save-ouput-of-linux-unix-command-to-file/
[08:27] <maffh> justxux, but this does not check whether the process is killed. This means that I have to write a script that write the iotop to a file and checks every x seconds if the proces it gone.
[08:28] <maffh> kunji, Thx, I will take a look at that tool
[08:32] <justxux> maffh, Sorry I never did this sorts of things but maybe this will give you the answer : http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/jj/linux/cli2.html#Some of the main CLI "filters"
[08:34] <maffh> justxux, Thx for the tips:)
[08:34] <justxux> maffh, If this heped you I'm glad
[08:40] <asdf-> apt upgrade prompted me to upgrade: login, passwd & uidmap... where can I find documentation on why these need to be updated?
[08:47] <Flannel> asdf-: http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/login  and then click "Ubuntu Changelog" on the right (and you can use the search bar at the top to get to the other packages)
[08:47] <asdf-> Flannel, thank you
[08:49] <asdf-> Flannel, i just learned about "apt changelog <package>"
[08:50] <asdf-> Flannel, so your suggestion but at the command line
[08:50] <Flannel> asdf-: Yeah, there's other ways to get the changelogs.  Synaptic will show you them too.
[09:19] <gagalicious> tried to network boot install pxe ubuntu 14.04 but i cant seem to use "d-i" command in kickstart or the raid failed
[09:19] <gagalicious> can anyone know why d-i is not recognized?
[09:19] <gagalicious> ubuntu 14.04
[09:30] <slacko_6094> hello 2 everybody here
[09:30] <EriC^^> hey
[09:31] <slacko_6094> can somebody help me with my Sony VAIO Notebook, have problem with Memory Stick PRO Duo - Cardreader?
[09:32] <alif_bae> question
[09:33] <slacko_6094> it does not work, but the light is on
[09:33] <alif_bae> has anyone managed to get 16.04 running without significant problems on the dell 7000 series?
[09:35] <gagalicious> d-i is totally not detected in kickstart ubuntu 14.04 pxe installation. i want raid and it's not working. can someone help?
[09:36] <slacko_6094> no one?
[09:36] <slacko_6094> cya folks.....
[09:41] <gedas> Hello. How to run command after rsync ???
[09:41] <alif_bae> stackoverflow bruh
[09:43] <vlt> gedas: ;
[09:45] <guest> gedas: you want to run the command locally or on the remote?
[09:46] <fishcooker> if im on 14.04 with mongodb-server version a.b.c how to know 16.04 using which mongodb server version?
[09:47] <cholby> what is https://bryanostergaard.com
[09:47] <guest> fishcooker: according to this, it's 1:2.6.10-0ubuntu1 if that helps http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/mongodb-server
[09:48] <fishcooker> noted Guest... mybad
[09:48] <fishcooker> thanks
[09:48] <fishcooker> let's say i have ubuntu server with many installed package how to revert back to initial state without rebuild or reinstall the built-in package?
[09:48] <guest> There is no simple way to do that
[09:48] <guest> you would have to try to downgrade all the packages
[09:49] <guest> almost certainly the easiest way is to back up data, and reinstall
[09:49] <guest> what are you doing overall?
[09:50] <_ben_lowery|afk> Anyone else having issues with ppa.launchpad.net today? I'm getting slightly above dialup speeds consistently
[09:51] <guest> humpall seems well here, servers install nginx from a PPA and I haven't noticed that being any slower.
[09:52] <guest> s/hump//
[09:52] <tomreyn> _ben_lowery|afk: maybe ask in #canonical-sysadmin
[09:52] <gagalicious> d-i is totally not detected in kickstart ubuntu 14.04 pxe installation. i want raid and it's not working. can someone help?
[09:52] <tomreyn> _ben_lowery|afk: but try from multiple locations first if you have that option
[09:54] <tomreyn> gagalicious: i think you need to provide more details, output, screenshots.
[09:54] <_ben_lowery|afk> tomreyn: I used my phone as a wifi hotspot still slow, thanks, didn't know about #canonical-sysadmin
[09:56] <tomreyn> _ben_lowery|afk: maybe try https://tools.pingdom.com to see how fast the http transfer works from multiple locations.
[09:58] <lkthomas> how come /etc/init.d still exists ?
[09:58] <lkthomas> on Xenial
[09:59] <_ben_lowery|afk> tomreyn: I flagged it in canonical-sysadmin just in case but time is tight today, I'll check it again tonight and dig in, definitely not my end though I'm getting 90-110meg from everywhere else and from the bytemark main repo mirrors
[10:00] <KutuX> hai
[10:00] <tomreyn> _ben_lowery|afk: do you feel like sharing the precise url you're trying to download where it's slow?
[10:01] <KutuX> HAi guys
[10:01] <KutuX> where are you from>
[10:01] <KutuX> where are you from ?
[10:01] <_ben_lowery|afk> everything off launchpad but right now this one. http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 firefox-locale-en amd64 54.0~a2~hg20170418r375973-0ubuntu1~umd1~xenial
[10:01] <KutuX> whoami
[10:01] <_ben_lowery|afk> tomreyn: ^
[10:02] <lkthomas> does Ubuntu 16 still use /etc/init.d ?
[10:02] <_ben_lowery|afk> lkthomas: no but it maintains it for backwards compatibility and you can still do the old /etc/init.d/<whatever> restart stuff
[10:02] <_ben_lowery|afk> otherwise lots of existing stuff that expects it would break
[10:02] <lkthomas> _ben_lowery|afk, does boot up still run stuff on that directory ?
[10:03] <tomreyn> so http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox-locale-en_54.0~a2~hg20170418r375973-0ubuntu1~umd1~xenial_amd64.deb is the precise url
[10:05] <_ben_lowery|afk> tomreyn: yep, if I wget that I get 50KB/s average
[10:06] <_ben_lowery|afk> if I wget an iso from bytemark I get 10.6MB/s which is what I normally get at home
[10:07] <tomreyn> _ben_lowery|afk: 16 megabits / second here, but the file is small, so a bad test. http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox-dbg_54.0~a2~hg20170418r375973-0ubuntu1~umd1_amd64.deb is 235 MB, much better test. there, download speed varies a lot for me , but still constantly above 8 megabits / second for me. it's likely a peering / routing issue then.
[10:07] <mansoor_> clear
[10:08] <_ben_lowery|afk> tomreyn: oh well, it'll likely resolve itself before I knock of work for the day, thanks for the quick sanity check though :)
[10:10] <tomreyn> _ben_lowery|afk: welcome. i 'complained' about issues with partner.canonical.com some days ago and learnt that there is a time of day where mirrors are very busy because old ubuntu releases do not randomize the time when automated updates take place. it's well possible this is this very time of day now. anyways, see you later. ;)
[10:16] <fishcooker> i accidentally upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04 then i can't reboot it http://vpaste.net/u84uO
[10:20] <EriC^^> fishcooker: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:23] <fishcooker> on progress EriC^^
[10:26] <batman_> ey
[10:36] <moses> hi room
[10:42] <fishcooker> nothing happen EriC^^
[10:42] <EriC^^> fishcooker: try dpkg -l | grep systemd-sysv
[10:45] <fishcooker> try to install
[10:46] <fishcooker> but http://vpaste.net/LJAFX
[10:53] <qazeeassad> hi everyone
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:07] <sirru5h> Howdy everyone
[11:14] <aredpanda`w> Hello folks, is there a way to change the Hotspot SSID in Ubuntu 17.04?
[11:16] <gigi1976> ciao
[11:16] <gigi1976> !list
[11:20] <yossarianuk> ping pynki:
[11:21] <gigi1976> ciao
[11:21] <gigi1976> !list
[11:31] <sveinse> I have problems on 16.04 with avahi .local name lookups. avahi-browse shows the entries, but it seems the DNS resover is unable to find it. What could be wrong?
[11:31] <wishe> Hello. I could use some help, I have managed to break my system
[11:32] <wishe> I can no longer get to the greeter, i edited a lightdm conf file
[11:32] <wishe> When i start up my computer it takes me to a screen saying it's missing drivers and input settings
[11:32] <wishe> I tried to get to command line, but it does not work
[11:33] <wishe> What can i do?
[11:35] <fishcooker> EriC^^: i accidentally copy the xenial sources.list to my trusty just noticed
[11:35] <aluwa_sera> i need to ask someone here
[11:35] <cris_> Hi
[11:36] <aluwa_sera> this find and replace command doesn't work -> find /home/mysite/html/some-page -type f | xargs sed -i  's/ onclick="return popitup('download_a')"/target="_blank"/g
[11:51] <chinnaraj> hi
[11:53] <predatorboy> hi
[11:53] <mclaren> hey
[11:53] <mclaren> im having problems with ethernet
[11:53] <predatorboy> hw about topic
[11:54] <predatorboy> ?
[11:54] <tomreyn> wishe: press ctrl-alt-f1 to access the text based terminal / command line, login there and fix it from there.
[11:56] <tomreyn> alternatively, reboot and hold down left shift key during / after boot, which should show the grub boot menu. you should be able to choose the emergency / recovery option there, then get to a menu where you are presented a couple recovery options
[11:56] <tomreyn> wishe: ^
[11:56] <Petfrogg> is there an ubuntu channel aimed at UFW and iptables?
[11:57] <raven> ANyone there?
[11:57] <raven> ALooo?
[11:57] <raven> Alooo?
[11:57] <scottjl> no
[11:57] <Guest52675> Anyone there?
[11:57] <Guest52675> Aroooo?
[12:00] <huehue> Hi guys
[12:00] <huehue> My laptop is turning itself off as if I had it turned off ... where do I check the logs to find out the cause? Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 updated! ;-)
[12:01] <wishe> tomreyn: I cannot open the terminal
[12:01] <wishe> CTRL + ALT + F1 does nothing
[12:02] <wishe> There was an option in the dialog that set exit and login with console. I tried that and all i get is /dev/sda1: clean, 291072/6111232 files, 2760788/24413696 blocks
[12:07] <huehue> My laptop is turning itself off as if I had it warrant where do I check the logs to find out the cause? Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 updated! ;-)
[12:15] <Petfrogg>  ¨
[12:17] <tomreyn> huehue: logs are in /var/log -you may want to look at syslog there. but this is more likely to be a hardware issue.
[12:18] <huehue> tomreyn: maybe this... ay  5 08:54:58 Rene-laptop gnome-session[1290]: (gnome-shell:1357): Gdk-WARNING **: gnome-shell: Fatal IO error 11 (Recurso temporariamente indisponível) on X server :0. May  5 08:54:58 Rene-laptop gnome-session[1290]: (gnome-settings-daemon:1322): Gdk-WARNING **: gnome-settings-daemon: Fatal IO error 11 (Recurso temporariamente indisponível) on X server :0.
[12:20] <huehue> tomreyn: this started after I installed the virtualbox! kk
[12:22] <Duality> hi
[12:22] <Duality> my lightdm doesn't autologin
[12:23] <Duality> i created a file at: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[12:24] <Duality> with the following: https://pastebin.com/Sjd0H6cr
[12:24] <Duality> any ideas ?
[12:24] <huehue> Duality: 16.04?
[12:24] <Duality> yes
[12:25] <huehue> Duality: create /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-autologin.conf
[12:26] <huehue> Duality: than, config autologin on 50-autologin.conf
[12:26] <huehue> ;-)
[12:27] <Duality> huehue: yes i figured :)
[12:27] <Duality> huehue: it does not autologin
[12:28] <wishe> So i figured out what the problem is with my system, I have a file in /etc/lightdm/ called lightdm.conf that only has one line it. I found this file through root shell in recovery mode. Problem is I cannot delete it due to file system being in read only mode in recovery. Any ides how i can get around that?
[12:29] <Duality> huehue: i created the right file
[12:29] <Duality> with the right contents
[12:30] <huehue> Duality: inside 50-autologin.conf  example: [SeatDefaults] autologin-user=USER autologin-user-timeout=0 user-session=ubuntu greeter-session=unity-greeter
[12:30] <Duality> huehue: yes that is what's in it
[12:30] <Duality> oh it autologins now
[12:30] <Duality> but it crashes
[12:30] <huehue> Duality: remove /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf?
[12:31] <Duality> and tries again
[12:31] <Duality> already had removed it :)
[12:31] <wishe> huehue: Do you know how i can remove this file?
[12:33] <huehue> Duality: crashes?
[12:34] <huehue> Duality: maybe user problem, try other!
[12:35] <huehue> Duality: test with guest, add allow-guest=true autologin-guest=true
[12:36] <huehue> Duality: remove line autologin-user=USER
[12:36] <wishe> Ok, so I managed to fix the problem. I had to boot in recovery mode, but change the boot option flag to rw instead of ro. This let me edit the file in the root shell and delete it. My system will now boot like normal again.
[12:38] <Duality> huehue: still crashes
[12:38] <tomreyn> huehue about your issue: make sure you have all the latest updates installed for your system, too
[12:38] <huehue> tomreyn: system updated kkk
[12:38] <huehue> Duality: who crashes?
[12:40] <Duality> huehue: i think the desktop, because i see a mouse and the login background, but it keeps crashing to black and back again
[12:40] <tomreyn> Duality: check the contents of .xesession-errors in your users' home directory
[12:40] <huehue> Duality: user problem bro... try guest
[12:40] <kunji> wishe: Nice job ^_^
[12:41] <Duality> huehue: i tried guest as you suggested
[12:41] <Duality> it's the same result :)
[12:41] <huehue> :/
[12:41] <tomreyn> Duality: in that case, also check /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[12:42] <Duality> tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/SDFhcr3V
[12:42] <Duality> for my .xsessionerrors
[12:42] <tomreyn> Duality: did it ver work? if so, what did you change between then and now?
[12:42] <huehue> Duality: https://pastebin.com/TcJS33Ze
[12:42] <tomreyn> *ever
[12:43] <tomreyn> Duality: the swrast message points to a graphics driver related issue.
[12:44] <tomreyn> your system falls back to software rendering because the proper graphics driver could not be loaded. and software rendering then fails.
[12:45] <tomreyn> you will want to ensure that correct graphiocs driver for your hardware will be loaded to prevent this issue.
[12:45] <huehue> Duality: alt+crtl f1
[12:45] <huehue> Duality: ln -s /usr/lib/nvidia-340/libGL.so.1 /usr/local/lib/libGL.so.1.2.0
[12:46] <tomreyn> huehue: what makes you think this is the graphics driver he needs and that this symlink should be set?
[12:47] <czesmir> hi, i get spam https://ibb.co/ek36rQ
[12:47] <yeats> czesmir: nobody's going to click on that - let us know what your issue is
[12:49] <huehue> tomreyn: I pass for same error days ago. update lost simbolic link for driver
[12:50] <Duality> i haven't updated in a while
[12:52] <huehue> Duality: nvidia rigth?
[12:52] <tomreyn> huehue: it doesn't seem very likely that this is an unfixed general issue, and it does not seem very likely that you  two have the same hardware and ubuntu version. you could, of course, have landed a lucky hit, but i think you are jumping to conclusions and should not suggest hardware and software specific solutions unless you know for sure that the other person also has an identical configuration.
[12:53] <huehue> tomreyn: okay
[12:54] <tomreyn> this "<Duality> i haven't updated in a while" is a good thing to start with
[12:55] <huehue> tomreyn: i try only help.
[12:55] <tomreyn> huehue: appreciated, sorry if this came over a little harsh.
[12:58] <fredson> Hi. Does one know when 16.04. kernel catches up with 4.10? I manually "forwarded" because of a wifi driver issue. and just wondered.
[12:59] <ioria> !info  linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge xenial
[12:59] <_ramo> hi
[13:00] <tomreyn> fredson: ^you can install this package to get an updated kernel on 16.04
[13:00] <_ramo> i see that some kernel isntallations are occupying some space on my disc which i want to free. i'm just not sure how to remove unused kernels
[13:00] <_ramo> https://pastebin.com/JVyHkpuy
[13:00] <_ramo> this is the list i have and a uname -a shows me, that not the kernel with the highest version is used
[13:01] <kunji> _ramo: 'sudo apt-get autoremove' I think will take them out
[13:01] <_ramo> kunji: does autoremove has a dry run option?
[13:01] <_ramo> ah yes, --dry-run
[13:01] <tomreyn> _ramo: also reboot so you get to use one of those newer kernels.
[13:02] <_ramo> tomreyn: i did reboot several times actually.
[13:02] <fredson> tomreyn: i did install the respective mainline debs. and it worked very well. i just assume that when it officially catches up no surprises (e.g. w/ virtualbox) are to expect.
[13:02] <_ramo> thanks for the hint
[13:02] <tomreyn> _ramo: then something is off with your grub configuration. 4.4.0-75 is available, you're still on 4.4.0-47
[13:16] <mmkumr> I am unable to update. While updating it showing error 'Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)'
[13:17] <mclaren> hey, can someone with experience in wired connections look at this thread: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2360388&page=2&p=13641866#post13641866
[13:18] <mclaren> my problem involves ubuntu not recognizing my ethernet cable when it is connected
[13:19] <tomreyn> mmkumr: what are you trying to update, and how?
[13:22] <mclaren> hey Sparrow__
[13:22] <mclaren> can u look at this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2360388&page=2&p=13641866#post13641866
[13:24] <mmkumr> I am unable to update. While updating it showing error 'Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)'
[13:25] <Sparrow__> mmkumr, check your sources
[13:26] <Sparrow__> mclaren, I read it but im still waking up.  What network hardware did you have
[13:26] <joh_> Hello, I have a VM with Ubuntu and the Background Wallpaper is changing daily. I need to find the script that sets the Background everyday (I need to know the next one). I know the folder where it takes the images from and it's using xfce4. I already check crotanb -e but there was nothing in
[13:26] <joh_> any ideas?
[13:26] <yeats> mmkumr: https://askubuntu.com/questions/474549/got-nodata-issue-nodata-does-the-network-require-authentication#475202 may help
[13:26] <tomreyn> mclaren: can yuo tell which model your router is?
[13:26] <SimonNL> mclaren: set it up in your router
[13:27] <Sparrow__> Morning guys
[13:28] <yeats> joh_: could be something in the system crontabs (cron.daily, etc.)?  I don't use xfce, so I'm probably not much help
[13:28] <kunji> mclaren: Hmm, some people have stated that the driver for that ethernet device isn't in the kernel.
[13:29] <joh_> yeats: https://gyazo.com/66cd37cd980d3876a90152b18c6c1c03 I found this inside crontab (etc)
[13:31] <yeats> joh_: I would investigate what's in /etc/cron.daily (and friends)
[13:32] <joh_> Inside there is apt-compat bsdmainutils dpkg logrotate man-db passwd
[13:34] <yeats> joh_: yeah - none of those sound relevant - must be some other sort of timer involved
[13:35] <ksk> hola. Can you suggest if I a) take LXD from 16.04 repos, or b) use the PPA? also: why? many thanks!
[13:35] <yeats> joh_: also, the background change is likely at random, but you may be able to find an xfce add on that gives you direct control
[13:42] <Sparrow__> ksk, ppas are a last resort
[13:44] <Rumbles> why are ppa's "a last resort" now? I know salt have stopped using theirs and I was wondering if they had been deprecated?
[13:44] <yeats> !ppa
[13:46] <mclaren> SimonNL: but i cant connectto 192.168.1.1
[13:46] <mclaren> tomreyn: ok let me check
[13:46] <Pici> Rumbles: They're not deprecated.  They're just not supported by Ubuntu itself, and can make troubleshooting here difficult.
[13:47] <mclaren> tomreyn: TDSL300W2
[13:47] <Rumbles> ok, thanks
[13:49] <Petfrogg> sudo crontab -e and then: */5 * * * * root /sbin/shutdown -r now
[13:49] <Petfrogg> why does it not reboot every 5 minutes?
[13:49] <Pici> Petfrogg: user crontabs don't have a column for username.
[13:50] <Petfrogg> so i should just remove it?
[13:50] <Petfrogg> hm
[13:50] <Pici> Petfrogg: yes.  Also, its a weird thing to reboot your system that frequently..
[13:51] <Petfrogg> ok....
[13:51] <Rumbles> "*/5 * * * * /sbin/shutdown -r now" should work Petfrogg
[13:51] <Petfrogg> trying it now
[13:51] <tomreyn> mclaren: is any other device in your home connected to the internet through this router currently? i.e., is this router able to connect to the internet fine?
[13:51] <mclaren> yes tomreyn
[13:51] <mclaren> the wifi is working correctly
[13:51] <Petfrogg> Pici: just a hard earned learning thing when working with iptables and getting locked out...
[13:51] <mclaren> but the ethernet is not
[13:53] <tomreyn> mclaren: okay, then you do not actually need / want to setup pppoe on ubuntu at all. you should only need to setup a standard ethernet connection between your ubuntu system and the router.
[13:53] <mclaren> yeah but it doesnt recognize it at all, tomreyn
[13:53] <mclaren> it says i was on that network 1 day ago
[13:54] <Sparrow__> mclaren, go along with him on this
[13:54] <tomreyn> mclaren: i suggest you start by undoing / moving out of the way any modifications you have done so far.
[13:54] <mclaren> ok
[13:54] <Sparrow__> mclaren, try it running a live usb?
[13:55] <mclaren> yep
[13:55] <mclaren> it still didnt recognizeit
[13:55] <Sparrow__> I just wanted to point that out for tomreyn
[13:55] <Sparrow__> bbl
[13:55] <tomreyn> yes that's good to know
[13:56] <tomreyn> so it can indeed be an issue with the driver or its configuration, or a physical issue (broken wire, bad connector) or even a misconfiguration on the router itself.
[13:57] <tomreyn> mclaren: did it ever work? if so, what changed between then and now?
[13:57] <mclaren> well
[13:58] <mclaren> now it says that ethernet network is not managed
[13:58] <mclaren> device is not managed*, tomreyn
[13:58] <tomreyn> mclaren: did it ever work, though?
[13:58] <Petfrogg> ok
[13:58] <mclaren> no
[13:58] <Petfrogg> got it working now
[13:58] <Petfrogg> thanx
[13:58] <tomreyn> mclaren: is there a file /etc/network/iunterfaces ? if so, please move it out of the way.
[13:59] <tomreyn> i had a typo there, the correct path is: /etc/network/interfaces
[13:59] <mclaren> so you're saying i should delete it/back it up? tomreyn
[14:00] <tomreyn> mclaren: just rename it if it exists: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.backup-20170505
[14:00] <Petfrogg> Pici Rumbles : thanx
[14:00] <mclaren> tomreyn: ok
[14:00] <tomreyn> mclaren: does / did it exist though?
[14:00] <mclaren> yes it exists
[14:01] <mclaren> can't rm it though, tomreyn
[14:01] <tomreyn> mclaren: okay. are you using the same computer to chat here?
[14:01] <mclaren> no
[14:01] <mclaren> im using a laptop, which is running the wifi from the same router
[14:01] <mclaren> ok i removed it
[14:01] <tomreyn> mclaren: okay. please use the command i typed above to move / rename the file
[14:02] <tomreyn> ok, works, too
[14:02] <zap0> how do i put my user in the sudoers file?
[14:02] <Duality> i reinstalled my system because i don't know what was wrong :)
[14:02] <Duality> but it works now
[14:03] <tomreyn> mclaren: now run the following commands: sudo service networking restart; sudo service network-manager restart
[14:03] <mclaren> networking crashes the pc
[14:03] <mclaren> so network-manager should work
[14:03] <tomreyn> mclaren: crashes, how?
[14:03] <mclaren> like
[14:04] <mclaren> ubuntu freezes
[14:04] <tomreyn> mclaren: and then you need to hard reset it?
[14:04] <mclaren> yes
[14:05] <tomreyn> mclaren: when you said "networking crashes the pc"  were you referring to running the command "sudo service networking restart"?
[14:05] <mclaren> yes
[14:05] <mclaren> i tried it once, and it did crash it
[14:05] <Sparrow__> inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebin
[14:06] <tomreyn> you mean 'pastebinit'
[14:06] <Sparrow__> :)
[14:06] <mclaren> tomreyn: thing is, i looked up how to set up ethernet for my specific ISP. and all answers told to set up a dsl connection
[14:08] <craptalk> zap0, you can use 'visudo'
[14:08] <auronandace> mclaren: how you connect your computers to the router has nothing to do with your ISP
[14:08] <tomreyn> mclaren: your router sets up the DSL connection to your ISP. this makes it a router, and provides internet connectivity to your computers via wireless and wired LAN. otherwise it would be a (dumb) modem, then you'd need to use PPPoE on your ubuntuz to setup the connection. but that's (luckily) not the case, since then you ubuntu system would also be the only devices which could connect to the internet.
[14:08] <mclaren> it is a dumb modem lol
[14:09] <tomreyn> no it is not, since you said you can already get online using it with wireless LAN
[14:09] <mclaren> but the ethernet doesn't work
[14:09] <mclaren> even on windows devices
[14:10] <tomreyn> that's a separate matter, though.
[14:10] <Sparrow__> mclaren, Are there more than one ethernet port on the back of your router..
[14:10] <mclaren> yes Sparrow__
[14:10] <mclaren> tried it with different ports too
[14:10] <tomreyn> now the fact that your system freezes when you restart networking is not good obviously. maybe you can just do a reboot instead.
[14:10] <Sparrow__> Had to ask
[14:11] <tomreyn> mclaren: did you also try different ethernet cables?
[14:11] <Sparrow__> Back to my morning coffee
[14:11] <mclaren> yep, already tried them
[14:12] <tomreyn> mclaren: are you saying you tried several ethernet cables on multiple router ports and you could not setup an ethernet connection?
[14:12] <mclaren> yes i am saying that
[14:12] <tomreyn> mclaren: from different computers also?
[14:12] <mclaren> yeah
[14:13] <zap0> craptalk, how do i use it?    when i type it is says Permission Denied
[14:13] <tomreyn> mclaren: ok, thanks for being precise, this helps ruling stuff out. so i suggets you reboot now if you haven't already.
[14:13] <craptalk> zap0, run it as root
[14:13] <Sparrow__> !sudo
[14:13] <mclaren> ok doing it now tomreyn
[14:14] <mclaren> hey tomreyn
[14:14] <mclaren> have you seen limitless?
[14:14] <tomreyn> mclaren: what's that?
[14:14] <zap0> craptalk, i don't know how to login as root...  the login dialog just seems to ignore my input of the password.
[14:14] <mclaren> its a movie
[14:14] <tomreyn> mclaren: oh, i guess not then. but please let's focus on ubuntu support only on this channel.
[14:14] <mclaren> alright
[14:15] <craptalk> zap0, do you know the root password?
[14:15] <mclaren> ok so i have 2 connections that i can connect to, and thats Ethernet connection 1, and enp2s0
[14:15] <craptalk> the one that is created at the initial installation?
[14:15] <mclaren> both do not work
[14:15] <tomreyn> mclaren: so the system rebooted and that's what you see in your graphical desktop now?
[14:16] <craptalk> run 'su -' , then input your root password, then run 'visudo'
[14:16] <mclaren> no i saw this before the reboottoo
[14:16] <mclaren> reboot too*
[14:16] <zap0> im pretty sure i did,  i changed it via a very low level reboot-into-safe-mode  type of thing  last week,  and then was able to install another user account for my general activities.  but when using that i can't seem to do really basic tasks like install an app from the command line.
[14:16] <tomreyn> mclaren: okay, please tell me when the system has finished rebooting
[14:16] <mclaren> and the thing is tomreyn, it doesnt actually connect to any of those
[14:17] <mclaren> when i see network connections, it says I was connected to (both of them) 1 day ago
[14:17] <tomreyn> mclaren: how do you tell it does not actually connect?
[14:17] <Sparrow__> mclaren, Is your router hard wired to your internet providers box?
[14:17] <craptalk> zap0, that means your current account is not allowed to do administrative task(including install and enable services)
[14:17] <mclaren> Sparrow__: elaborate please
[14:17] <craptalk> zap0, you need to do what i asked you before
[14:18] <mclaren> tomreyn:  it doesnt because it just tries to connect, and then says "Ethernet disconnected"
[14:18] <mclaren> or it says "Disconnected - you are now offline" tomreyn
[14:19] <craptalk> you are about to edit /etc/sudoers file, but only root could do it since your account is not yet sudoers
[14:19] <mclaren> my dear tomreyn, check this out: https://telecomgk.com/bsnl-modem-configuration/
[14:19] <auronandace> mclaren: do you know what ethernet chip you have?
[14:19] <mclaren> AR8161
[14:19] <mclaren> auronandace: ^
[14:19] <Sparrow__> you have a router.. how is that router connected to the outside world?
[14:19] <Sparrow__> through what other device
[14:19] <mclaren> Sparrow__: oh yeah, there's a box up on the roof
[14:20] <tomreyn> Sparrow__: probably none, since it's an ADSL router?
[14:20] <craptalk> zap0, once you opened the sudoers file you could refer this link: https://www.garron.me/en/linux/visudo-command-sudoers-file-sudo-default-editor.html
[14:20] <mclaren> not a box, but some wires
[14:20] <zap0> craptalk, ok.
[14:20] <Sparrow__> tomreyn, you see what I was thinking
[14:20] <craptalk> only thing is, switch your user to root then run 'visudo'
[14:22] <tomreyn> Sparrow__: hmm no i don't think i can guess what you had on your mind there, maybe that he has multiple adsl routers and one is configured as just a router or switch.
[14:23] <tomreyn> but i guess it doesn't seem to be relevant now.
[14:23] <mclaren> i only have one though
[14:23] <tomreyn> mclaren: has the reboot completed, yet?
[14:23] <mclaren> yes
[14:23] <mclaren> it has
[14:24] <Sparrow__> tomreyn, Something odd, ethernet is never a problem. But multiple systems can not connect to his router says it is not in the computer side
[14:24] <zap0> ok..  found another user that can sudi visudo.    i have the doc open..   so i'd add:  myusername ALL=(ALL) ALL
[14:24] <zap0> craptalk, and then i can use sudo to install basic apps?
[14:24] <mclaren> tomreyn, and Sparrow__, i am dumb you know
[14:25] <tomreyn> Sparrow__: you'Re right, it's probably a misconfiguration of the LAN side on the router. or it's just a static LAN IP configuration, not DHCP
[14:25] <Sparrow__> Im old and not quite awake
[14:25] <tomreyn> Sparrow__: right now i'd like to understand whether ethernet works at all.
[14:25] <mclaren> it doesnt
[14:25] <mclaren> tbh i think im going to sql inject into my ISP's database of usernames and passwords
[14:26] <taner> anybody ?
[14:26] <tomreyn> mclaren: we have not proved this, yet. we only know that the default mechanism which is usually used to connect your computer to the router does not succeed.
[14:26] <mclaren> alright tom
[14:26] <tomreyn> mclaren: ? i don't see what this would do to solve this issue.
[14:27] <mclaren> tom, it would solve it because then i would have the username and password so  i can use it as a dsl connection
[14:27] <mclaren> and tomreyn, i think the dsl connection would be  correct, because when i had windows on the same pc, i had to set it up the same way too
[14:28] <tomreyn> mclaren: you already have the username and password to configure the router to setup an dsl connection (using the PPPoE protocol) stored in the router.
[14:28] <mclaren> but how do i get that
[14:28] <mclaren> i have the username, but the password
[14:28] <mclaren> i need to sql inject after all then.
[14:29] <tomreyn> mclaren: that's an unrelated issue.
[14:29] <mclaren> mmmm
[14:29] <mclaren> ok but seriously man
[14:29] <mclaren> do u have some contact thing? i'll get the password tomorrow by contacting support, and if it doesnt work then, i'm going to bomb the headquarters of my ISP
[14:30] <tomreyn> i think we should stop here.
[14:30] <mclaren> lol
[14:30] <mclaren> but hey seriously man
[14:30] <mclaren> i believe its the dsl
[14:30] <yossarianuk> mclaren: I wonder what lists you have just been added to ?
[14:31] <mclaren> right now yossarian, i'm #1 on Interpol's most wanted
[14:31] <mclaren> and my friend osama bin laden, he used arch linux
[14:33] <zap0> is that because he thought that might get him closer to 72 virgins ?
[14:33] <mclaren> lol
[14:33] <mclaren> zap0, im sure 71 out of 72 used linux from scratch
[14:33] <mclaren> also look at me in this picture, im looking pretty good y'all: https://www.interpol.int/notice/search/wanted/2015-6320
[14:35] <Sparrow__> mclaren, what router do you have?
[14:35] <mclaren> TDSL300W2
[14:35] <mclaren> ^^ Sparrow__
[14:36] <mclaren> lol
[14:37] <Sparrow__> http://www.netvuze.com/2013/04/dsl-broadband-modem-configuration.html this is it?
[14:37] <jushur> mclaren: what ip/dns/route do you get when you connect to the wifi on it?
[14:37] <mclaren> jushur: public?
[14:38] <jushur> mclaren: no, u said earlier u could connect to thw wifi, but not ethernet
[14:38] <mclaren> yes i can
[14:40] <tomreyn> jushur: Looks like you'll need to explain NAT.
[14:41] <jushur> tomreyn: was thinking its a bad config in the dhcpd service on the router actually.
[14:42] <jushur> and many isp/companys auto set NAT rules based on that. and that can make the ethernet ports not work at all
[14:43] <mclaren> oh
[14:43] <tomreyn> jushur: ethernet would still work, just addressing would not.
[14:44] <tomreyn> it's also what i was thinking
[14:44] <tomreyn> but i am unable to work with mclaren, he lacks focus, precision. you're welcome to give it a try, or maybe Sparrow will.
[14:45] <mclaren> you are correct
[14:47] <Sparrow__> mclaren, Double check your router settings against these.  http://www.netvuze.com/2013/04/dsl-broadband-modem-configuration.html
[14:47] <wishe> I installed LXDE and Lubuntu Core and some other Lubuntu packages and it messed up my system. I have since removed it but I still get the lubuntu logo instead of the ubuntu logo when logging in and out. Any ideas which setting or package defines this`
[14:47] <mclaren> ok Sparrow__
[14:47] <wishe> ?`
[14:48] <EriC^^> wishe: did you run sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[14:49] <Sparrow__> tomreyn, Nice effort on your part though
[14:49] <wishe> I did EriC^^
[14:49] <mclaren> Sparrow__: for some reason i cant connect to 192.168.1.1
[14:50] <EriC^^> wishe: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u
[14:50] <wishe> that looks scary, what does it do exactly?
[14:51] <paven> mornin'
[14:51] <EriC^^> it gives you a menu to choose the theme of plymouth, the login splash
[14:51] <EriC^^> wishe: ^
[14:52] <auronandace> wishe: plymouth is the graphical boot thingy, that command resets the config for it
[14:52] <mclaren> Sparrow__: do you think it would be appropriate if i could connect the ethernet to a windows machine and then check the router settings?
[14:52] <EriC^^> !plymouth | wishe
[14:52] <mclaren> because it doesnt depend on it right
[14:52] <ksk> Sparrow__: okay, thanks!
[14:53] <wishe> Thankyou EriC^^, that did work
[14:53] <EriC^^> wishe: no problem
[14:53] <wishe> One more thing though
[14:53] <Sparrow__> mclaren, correct
[14:53] <MrSassyPants> yo, what is the current proper way of getting something like xautoclick / kautoclick?
[14:54] <wishe> When ubuntu boots it shows in the top left corner /dev/sda1 clean 29141i491412/12031o3012312 files or something like that
[14:54] <wishe> Is this normal?
[14:54] <john_539> anyone know if you can receive files in smuxi?
[14:54] <auronandace> wishe: yes
[14:55] <wishe> Ok
[14:55] <Sparrow__> wishe, it beats the alternative
[14:55] <mclaren> alright
[14:55] <wishe> alternative being dirty files?
[14:55] <wishe> haha
[14:55] <mclaren> so the ethernet doesnt have a valid IP configuration
[14:56] <mclaren> Sparrow__: ^^
[14:56] <MrSassyPants> wishe, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_data
[14:56] <john_539> anyone recommend a good gnome irc client which supports file transfers?
[14:57] <EriC^^> john_539: hexchat
[14:57] <wishe> Ok, since im on a roll here does anyone have any tips on how i can make sure my computer is using nvidia drivers and not intel?
[14:57] <john_539> EriC^^: thanks will check it out
[14:57] <EriC^^> john_539: no problem
[14:57] <zap0> wishe, yeah i noticed that too on my system....  i think it it normal.. it doesn't appear to stop anything to proceeding
[14:57] <auronandace> wishe: are you running the default ubuntu (using the unity desktop)?
[14:58] <wishe> I am now auronandace
[14:58] <wishe> I tried to install LXDE but it failed hard
[14:58] <Sparrow__> mclaren, so check your router again or reset it and use that guide
[14:58] <MrSassyPants> Also, still asking how I get an autoclicker now that xautoclick is not supported anymore
[14:59] <auronandace> wishe: launch the settings panel and you can find what graphics driver are being used under the update settings
[14:59] <zap0> wishe, is that what Lubuntu uses?
[14:59] <wish_> update settings auronandace ?
[14:59] <wish_> zap0: yes
[15:00] <mclaren> aight Sparrow__
[15:00] <auronandace> wish_: it might be easer to search for update manager in the dash then hit the settings button on that
[15:02] <wish_> searching for update manager gives me software updater and software & updates
[15:02] <wish_> Nothing about graphics
[15:03] <auronandace> wish_: thats the one, software updater
[15:04] <frankspank> EriC^^, hexchat is just the job thanks!
[15:04] <jushur> mclaren: i asked what ip/dns/route you had on wifi for a reson.
[15:05] <wish_> So you mean in the drivers auronandace ?
[15:05] <EriC^^> frankspank: cool, no problem!
[15:05] <mclaren> jushur: ok let me check again
[15:05] <auronandace> wish_: that's the one, do you see which one is highlighted (little green orb next to it)?
[15:05] <mclaren> jushur: 192.168.1.2
[15:06] <mclaren> and default route is 192.168.1.1
[15:06] <wishe> Yea but I dont think that actually shows me which gpu is serving my screen does it?
[15:06] <auronandace> wishe: that tells you which driver is in use
[15:06] <wishe> Yea, thats true
[15:08] <MrSassyPants> Still looking for autoclicker functionality
[15:08] <wishe> alright cheers everyone
[15:10] <auronandace> wishe: lsmod will show you which kernel modules are loaded (if you know what they are called)
[15:12] <Sparrow__> mclaren, pppoa  or pppoe      is selected?
[15:12] <sourav> Hello! I am new here
[15:12] <skinux> I'm looking for the most light-weight desktop environment, that isn't ugly. I want the paneling that MATE has, but I'm trying to cut down on resource usage as much as possible.
[15:13] <sourav> Could anybody suggest or add me to my some good technology related channel here ?
[15:13] <auronandace> skinux: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. LXDE might fit the bill for you
[15:13] <Sparrow__> Up your HW to run the OS you like
[15:14] <auronandace> !alis | sourav
[15:14] <skinux> I've 4G RAM, 4G SWAP
[15:14] <Sparrow__> skinux, I have 4 gig here, running mate just fine
[15:15] <tapanik> vittu et meni käämit kun tutun muija oli pilleri kännissä
[15:15] <skinux> Well, I'm trying to cut down so that hopefully I can use Vagrant.
[15:15] <skinux> So far, even with MATE, Vagrant bogs down my machine.
[15:16] <ppf> skinux: LXDE is maybe the most lightweight DE
[15:17] <skinux> What is the main package for that? All I'm seeing is a bunch of specific packages and a metapackage.
[15:17] <jushur> tapanik: English plz
[15:18] <psusi> I'm using the mail-stack-delivery package and it supposedly configures postfix and dovecot, but it has no postconf file and the guys in #postfix say that means the install is broken
[15:18] <psusi> what gives?
[15:19] <psusi> and I've set up an alias for foo.com in /etc/hosts, but postfix keeps bouncing mail to there saying it can't find the AAA record
[15:19] <psusi> like it isn't bothering to check /etc/hosts
[15:21] <kevin_90> alis
[15:22] <rodrigot23> i get a duplicate folder whenever i extract an large achieve consisting of parts in packages but when i go to another directory on the file manager the duplicate goes away.can anybody help me does anybody have this bug or am i alone here?
[15:24] <nacc> rodrigot23: use a pastebin and show the exact error message and what exactly you mean by the "when i go to another directory..."
[15:24] <rodrigot23> the file manager
[15:25] <nacc> rodrigot23: that doesn't clarify anything
[15:25] <nacc> rodrigot23: please do as I asked, your exact problem is unclear
[15:25] <rodrigot23> you now unrar/rar right?
[15:25] <rodrigot23> know
[15:25] <nacc> rodrigot23: yes
[15:26] <nacc> rodrigot23: but as i said, use a pastebin, to show what you mean
[15:27] <rodrigot23> how do i show you that
[15:27] <rodrigot23> is there a command?
[15:27] <nacc> !paste | rodrigot23
[15:27] <nacc> rodrigot23: don't use a GUI, show it in the terminal (or take screenshots if you must)
[15:27] <rodrigot23> oh okay
[15:31] <Komputerfreak> does someone know what to do if a raid5 repair fails?
[15:33] <andywww> would there be any downsides to creating an mdadm raid array on a set of disks that will ultimately be used by a different operating system to the one creating it?
[15:33] <ikonia> andywww: why would you do that
[15:33] <andywww> i’m running a debian system off a temporary USB stick which will be swapped out for another higher capacity one later
[15:33] <ikonia> usb stick....is not an madam array
[15:33] <mclaren> Sparrow__ and tomreyn, thank you SO MUCH.
[15:33] <mclaren> it started working
[15:34] <Quark> I have many .md (markdown) files, with a YAML front matter (a "header block starting with --- and ending with ---). I need to add a line to the front matter, in all files. Anyone knows a simple sed or awk recipee for this?
[15:34] <andywww> no, but the 4 HDDs i’ve put in to put in it are
[15:34] <ikonia> so just backup the mdadm config
[15:35] <andywww> the usb is what boots the OS
[15:35] <ikonia> and if this is debian why not ask in #debian
[15:35] <ikonia> oh wait you are just blindly cross-posting
[15:35] <andywww> then why ask
[15:35] <ikonia> becaue I've just seen
[15:35] <ikonia> after I asked
[15:35] <andywww> other than to turn this into a shaming exercise
[15:36] <andywww> forget it i’ll continue in debian
[15:36] <ikonia> thanks
[15:37] <Komputerfreak> quark: what do you want to add? you could count the ------- lines and print out an additional the second time you see one maybe
[15:38] <Komputerfreak> *additional line
[15:38] <Komputerfreak> but it depends on the structure of the file
[15:39] <craptalk> guys, how can i check incoming port that opened in my host?
[15:39] <craptalk> i think mostly the incoming port is disabled, right?
[15:39] <craptalk> by the firewall, but how can i check it?
[15:39] <compdoc> which prt
[15:39] <frankspank> ufw?
[15:40] <compdoc> I think there is no firewall, unless you enable it
[15:40] <craptalk> compdoc, any port that anyone could access from the outside to my host?
[15:40] <craptalk> is it listed on firewall-cmd --list-all?
[15:40] <craptalk> like the default is port 22 for ssh
[15:40] <compdoc> different ports use different protocols for testing
[15:41] <craptalk> the question is, can i refer to firewall-cmd for the open port?
[15:41] <Komputerfreak> if it is based on iptables you should be able to see ab rules on the standard tables by sudo iptables -L
[15:41] <craptalk> i am activating firewall
[15:41] <Komputerfreak> *all rules
[15:41] <frankspank> craptalk, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[15:41] <craptalk> i disable ip tables and using firewall-cmd
[15:42] <craptalk> frankspank, i just wanna know do i have open ports now?
[15:42] <Quark> Komputerfreak: yes, it comes down to inserting a line at the second line of multiple files.
[15:42] <compdoc> dont matter if ports are open, unless you have a service listening
[15:42] <rodrigot23> nacc do you know any archives to test this on?
[15:42] <Quark> Komputerfreak: I have tried, to no avail.
[15:43] <nacc> rodrigot23: i don't know what you mean?
[15:43] <nacc> rodrigot23: i don't use RARs at all, I don't know anyone who does
[15:43] <frankspank> craptalk, on a remote host?
[15:43] <craptalk> compdoc, if the open port is there, isnt it for security measure?
[15:43] <craptalk> frankspank, on my own host
[15:43] <rodrigot23> so is this a first for you?
[15:44] <frankspank> craptalk, if you close down all your ports how are you going to access anything?
[15:44] <Sparrow__> !logs
[15:44] <nacc> rodrigot23: are you asking me? i really just want you to show what you were talking about. Your description was not at all clear. I don't really care, though, but if you want help, you should *show* what you mean, instead of describing it
[15:45] <frankspank> craptalk, the fact you're talking to us on irc means you have atleast one port open...right?
[15:45] <craptalk> frankspank, i get your point, i mean for public connectivity or incoming port
[15:46] <craptalk> since i access outside then i by default outgoing ports are enabled
[15:47] <craptalk> but i can disable port 80 on my port for incoming unless i am building local site
[15:47] <compdoc> craptalk, if nothing is listening, dont really matter. your router doesnt have a basic firewall?
[15:47] <craptalk> compdoc, what do you mean?
[15:48] <frankspank> craptalk, compdoc means unless theres a service listening/running on that port then it doesn't matter if its open or closed
[15:50] <Komputerfreak> quark something like this seems to work: awk '{print $0; if ($0 == "---" ) {cnt=cnt+1; if (cnt==2) {print "hi";}}}' examplefile
[15:51] <Quark> Komputerfreak: trying it.
[15:51] <Komputerfreak>  
[15:53] <natmal> Help, please. :3 I'm running 14.04 LTS in vagrant, and even though I've run `update-rc.d apache2 enable`, Apache won't start on boot. Same thing with MySQL. I've tried `update-rc.d -f apache2 remove` then `update-rc.d apache2 defaults`, but that doesn't work.
[15:54] <natmal> `service apache2 start` works fine
[15:55] <Quark> Komputerfreak: that works, but isn't changing the file. Is there a way to write that change to the file instead of printing it?
[15:56] <Komputerfreak> you can write to filename.tmp (add '> filename.tmp' to the command) and do 'mv filename.tmp filename ' after it
[15:56] <Komputerfreak> directly piping to filename ('> filename') unfortunately deletes the file, though i am not sure why
[15:57] <Quark> Komputerfreak: that could convoluted when I run it on a for loop (changing many files).
[15:57] <Quark> could ^get^ convoluted.
[15:58] <nacc> Quark: Komputerfreak: this isn't really an ubuntu issue, fwiw
[15:58] <nacc> maybe take it to a more relevant channel?
[15:59] <Quark> nacc: I know, but it is using tools available on Ubuntu. The channel isn't that busy, are we that much of a bother?
[15:59] <Komputerfreak> i guess you can always write to filename.tmp and just replace 'filename' with the current filemane in the loop
[16:00] <nacc> Quark: this is the support channel
[16:00] <nacc> Quark: and it doesn't matter if the channel is busy or not
[16:00] <Quark> nacc: Convinced. I will stop molesting then. Thanks, Komputerfreak.
[16:05] <kallesbar> natmal: are you still there, you could try this
[16:06] <kallesbar> sudo systemctl enable apache2
[16:06] <kallesbar> sudo systemctl daemon-reload
[16:06] <kallesbar> sudo systemctl restart apache2
[16:08] <nacc> kallesbar: that's for systemd not upstart
[16:08] <kallesbar> nacc: oops! sorry
[16:08] <nacc> kallesbar: it's ok, i'm not sure if `service` has the same options or not
[16:10] <maartinex> Hello guys, how can assaign variables while reading lines from a file ? lets say i grep a line and i assigned it to a variable in while loop but how can i use that variable outside the while loop ?
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> maartinex  use cut and awk to find a word in a file ... make your variable with      $(what you extracted with cut/awk)
[16:14] <nacc> maartinex: you might want to ask that in #bash
[16:14] <nacc> maartinex: are you asking how to use variables in the shell?
[16:15] <_adb> apt search blarg # this returns packages that have "blarg" in the name or in the description. how can i get it to match on just the name?
[16:16] <maartinex> nacc: i read file lines and wanted to assign some of them and then do something else outside while loop thats all
[16:17] <nacc> _adb: `man apt` -> `man apt-cache` -> pass -n
[16:17] <nacc> maartinex: i can't parse what you just said
[16:17] <nacc> maartinex: maybe use a pastebin and show example code
[16:17] <nacc> maartinex: but again, it's not really an ubuntu support issue
[16:17] <Sparrow__> wrong channel for programming
[16:17] <maartinex> nacc, okey :D yeah ofc
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> maartinex  plenty tutorials onlinre, here's one  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22792744/should-i-use-cut-or-awk-to-extract-fields-and-field-substrings
[16:19] <_adb> nacc: thanks
[16:19] <maartinex> MonkeyDust, yes but lets say i will asssing 5 variables then i have to do 5 times cat ... | grep or awk etc..
[16:20] <Komputerfreak> yay ssl
[16:21] <Sparrow__> wrong channel for programming please stop take it to chat
[16:23] <maartinex> nacc: http://lpaste.net/355239
[16:25] <nacc> maartinex: uh, yeah, take it to a different channel, and you're doing it wrong :)
[16:26] <maartinex> nacc, im am sorry what ?
[16:26] <m-30> hi
[16:26] <rodrigot23> nacc https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview=Screenshot+from+2017-05-05+12-24-36.png
[16:26] <nacc> maartinex: you are asking for shell programming help, there are channels for that, not #ubuntu. Also, your shell programming is ... very inefficient
[16:27] <rodrigot23> its the linux 4.11
[16:27] <nacc> rodrigot23: 4.11?
[16:27] <Jordan_U> maartinex: There are many common bash pitfalls demonstrated in that code. #bash is the best place to discuss how to avoid them and get your script working properly and reliably.
[16:27] <rodrigot23> yes
[16:27] <nacc> rodrigot23: 4.11 is not in any ubuntu
[16:27] <rodrigot23> no the photo link i sent you
[16:27] <nacc> rodrigot23: i'm not going to login to dropbox to view your file
[16:27] <nacc> rodrigot23: you can use imgur, as ubottu said
[16:28] <Jordan_U> maartinex: Do you know how to join the #bash channel from here?
[16:28] <maartinex> Jordan_U, okey thank you
[16:28] <maartinex> yes i joined there too
[16:28] <rodrigot23> nacc http://imgur.com/a/9C1NX
[16:29] <nacc> rodrigot23: ok ... there's no error there?
[16:29] <nacc> rodrigot23: i don't know what the problem is
[16:29] <rodrigot23> yes the (2)
[16:29] <nacc> rodrigot23: also, that's not a rar file
[16:30] <rodrigot23> i only extracted it once
[16:30] <netw1z> how can i upgrade python to 2.7.9 from 2.7.3 ?
[16:30] <rodrigot23> nacc it doesnt make a difference it does it with every extension
[16:31] <rodrigot23> its empty theres nothing in there
[16:31] <nacc> rodrigot23: so you're saying that before, Downloads/ only has linux-4.11.tar.xz. You then extracted it (with what?) and then there are two linux-4.11 directories?
[16:31] <vlt> netw1z: Is this on 12.04? Then easiest by upgrading Ubuntu to 16.04, for example, which ships with 2.7.12
[16:32] <nacc> netw1z: also, 12.04 is eol
[16:32] <rodrigot23> yes
[16:32] <nacc> netw1z: otherwise, you don't want to chagne the python version
[16:32] <rodrigot23> its just one not two
[16:32] <netw1z> Im on linode and i suddenly need some SSL / SNI support for code running on there
[16:33] <nacc> netw1z: you're on a 12.04 server on linode?
[16:33] <vlt> netw1z: Upgrade.
[16:33] <nacc> rodrigot23: hrm? your picture shows two directories
[16:33] <rodrigot23> yes
[16:34] <rodrigot23> but you got it right just one linux 4.11
[16:34] <rodrigot23> and two folders
[16:34] <rodrigot23> but its just really one
[16:35] <rodrigot23> that one doesnt have nothing
[16:35] <nacc> rodrigot23: "just really" what are you referring to?
[16:35] <nacc> rodrigot23: please don't confuse your expectation with what is happening
[16:35] <nacc> rodrigot23: it makes it hard to understand
[16:35] <rodrigot23> the linux 4.11
[16:35] <nacc> rodrigot23: it *did* create two directories, right?
[16:35] <rodrigot23> its just one extraction not 2
[16:35] <nacc> rodrigot23: so then don't say it's "really just one", it's *really* two
[16:36] <rodrigot23> you get it
[16:36] <rodrigot23> yes thats what im saying
[16:36] <netw1z> checking
[16:36] <nacc> rodrigot23: i can't reproduce it in 17.04 -- what version of ubuntu?
[16:37] <rodrigot23> 16.04
[16:37] <rodrigot23> i had problems with 16.10
[16:37] <nacc> rodrigot23: so you reinstalled?
[16:37] <rodrigot23> its complicated
[16:37] <rodrigot23> i had to get everything again
[16:38] <MrGeneral> E: Method bzip2 has died unexpectedly!
[16:38] <rodrigot23> i installed 14.04
[16:38] <MrGeneral>   Error in `/usr/lib/apt/methods/bzip2': free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x0000000001526120 ***
[16:38] <MrGeneral> Any idea?
[16:38] <MrGeneral> Seems to be everything corrupted.
[16:38] <rodrigot23> then upgraded to ubuntu 16.04
[16:38] <nacc> rodrigot23: what? you were on 16.10 and it didn't work so you install 14.04?
[16:38] <rodrigot23> yes
[16:38] <rodrigot23> it was buggy
[16:38] <nacc> rodrigot23: why wouldn't you install 16.04?
[16:39] <nacc> rodrigot23: in any case, i'm not sure, you can file a bug i don't have a 16.04 handy
[16:39] <nacc> !bug | rodrigot23
[16:41] <rodrigot23> nacc how is ubuntu 17.04?
[16:41] <nacc> rodrigot23: it's fine. but i also had no problems with 16.10
[16:42] <rodrigot23> so youre on it now?
[16:45] <nacc> rodrigot23: on what?
[16:46] <Zalabas> :3
[16:46] <Zalabas> hi
[16:46] <rodrigot23> ubuntu 17.04
[16:46] <nacc> rodrigot23: yes
[16:46] <rodrigot23> they fixed the connection problems i had on ubuntu 16.04.1 and 14.04.5
[17:20] <jfcaron> I tried following the instructions in the "Static IP" section of this: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html#ip-addressing but the static IP that I am giving to the machine is not showing up on `ifconfig` after doing ifdown/ifup.
[17:21] <jfcaron> Here are the contents of /etc/network/interfaces and various command outputs that are relevant: https://paste.debian.net/930907/
[17:22] <CHt> hola alguien puede ayudarme con la tarjeta wifi de un laptop q no es reconocida por ubuntu?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> !es
[17:22] <jfcaron> Can someone help me figure out which setting is wrong?
[17:23] <CHt> ubuntu no me reconoce wiffi alguino puede ayudarme?
[17:33] <onomatopiea> Is there a nice way to force audio through HDMI?
[17:33] <onomatopiea> I'm bored of having to change it.
[17:34] <instigator> Hello. I have been trying to install the libgphoto2-dev 2.5.3.1-1 package, but Im getting a dependency problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24518177/. What I dont get is that the error is saying it depends on libgphoto2-6 (= 2.5.3.1-1ubuntu2), however system is using libgphoto2-6:amd64 2.5.3.1-1ubuntu2.2. These two versions look exactly the same!
[17:35] <mclaren> hey
[17:35] <mclaren> i can't hear any sounds
[17:36] <nacc> instigator: ubuntu2 vs. ubuntu2.2
[17:36] <mclaren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24518202/
[17:37] <nacc> instigator: why are you using dpkg to install the package?
[17:37] <Vegerot> mclaren: Aren't you the Windows ME guy from yesterday?
[17:37] <mclaren> yeah
[17:37] <mclaren> lol
[17:37] <mclaren> i got my ethernet working again Vegerot
[17:37] <Vegerot> mclaren: That's good
[17:37] <mclaren> yeah
[17:37] <Bashing-om> !info libgphoto2-6 xenial
[17:37] <mclaren> turns out i have to fix 99 problems
[17:37] <mclaren> but ethernet ain't one
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> mclaren  i a terminal, type   alsamixer ... if you see MM, go there and hit m to unmute
[17:37] <nacc> Bashing-om: i think they are on trusty (for those versions)
[17:38] <mclaren> no mm is not present
[17:38] <instigator> nacc: I tried apt-get install libgphoto2-6, but got error saying that package has unmet dependencies
[17:38] <mclaren> MonkeyDust:
[17:38] <Bashing-om> nacc: Yeah, thanks, was drawing a blank on my mind here .
[17:38] <nacc> instigator: are you on 14.04?
[17:38] <instigator> nacc: libgphoto2-dev : Depends: libgphoto2-6 (= 2.5.3.1-1ubuntu2) but 2.5.3.1-1ubuntu2.2 is to be installed
[17:39] <instigator> nacc: yes im on 14.04
[17:39] <nacc> instigator: it looks like you are running some hodgepodge that does and does not have updates
[17:39] <nacc> instigator: please pastebin `apt-cache policy libgphoto2-6
[17:39] <mclaren> MonkeyDust: here's some useful stuff:  Card: HDA ATI SB Chip: Realtek ALC887-VD
[17:39] <nacc> jfcaron: run `sudo service networking restart` rather than ifdown/ifup
[17:40] <Vegerot> When is Ubuntu going to switch back to gnome?
[17:40] <instigator> nacc: heres the apt-cache policy output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24518215/
[17:40] <frankspank> Vegerot, 18.04 I think
[17:41] <sidetracking> whats the best WinSCP alternative for leenox
[17:41] <frankspank> Vegerot, I've just switched from kubuntu to ubuntu budgie (gnome), very happy with the switch
[17:41] <Vegerot> frankspank: Okay thanks. Sorry for making you type the word "Vegerot" Heh Heh
[17:42] <nacc> sidetracking: scp ?
[17:42] <frankspank> Vegerot, used autocomplete it's ok :)
[17:42] <nacc> instigator: sorry, `apt-cache policy libgphoto2-dev` ?
[17:42] <sidetracking> nacc no
[17:42] <Vegerot> frankspank: Okay. Is gogeta ever here anymore? He'd like my screen name
[17:43] <frankspank> Vegerot, no idea, i use irc about twice a year
[17:43] <Vegerot> sidetracking: Filezilla
[17:43] <nacc> sidetracking: you asked for the "best", which is purely an opinion
[17:43] <sidetracking> Vegerot no
[17:43] <nacc> sidetracking: stop responding no
[17:43] <instigator> nacc: heres the output for libgphoto2-dev: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24518230/
[17:43] <sidetracking> nacc stop bullying me
[17:43] <nacc> sidetracking: clearly you have an answer in mind
[17:43] <Vegerot> frankspank: Oh I see. Gogeta and I have an inside joke with this
[17:44] <sidetracking> nacc i use WinSCP via wine so no i dont have an answer
[17:44] <nacc> instigator: it would appear you installed a .deb by hand
[17:44] <sidetracking> also, i suggest you read this. http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/
[17:44] <nacc> sidetracking: ugh, that's ridiculous
[17:44] <nacc> sidetracking: why would you use a windows GUI in linux?
[17:44] <sidetracking> its really not
[17:44] <Vegerot> sidetracking: I've seen that link like 20 times today
[17:45] <sidetracking> winSCP is the lebron james of SFTP clients
[17:45] <frankspank> sidetracking, I can't believe that's a real site
[17:45] <nacc> sidetracking: i'm not bullying you. you asked for an opinoin, and responded with "no" to two responses.
[17:45] <sidetracking> s-stop
[17:45] <jfcaron> nacc: I also tried with sudo service networking restart, the effect is the same, the IP address is unchanged.
[17:45] <instigator> nacc: is it possible to uninstall 2.5.3.1-1ubuntu2 and install 2.5.3.1-1ubuntu2.2 without using .deb?
[17:45] <Vegerot> sidetracking: and you responded no to me also
[17:45] <frankspank> sidetracking, would you like a safe space?
[17:45] <sidetracking> im sooooryy :C
[17:45] <nacc> jfcaron: you might need to reboot to test it properly
[17:45] <sidetracking> stop bullying :C
[17:46] <Vegerot> Just "saiyan" (i wish gogeta was here to see this)
[17:46] <jfcaron> nacc: I haven't tried that yet.  Once the guys in ##linux give up on me I will try that. =p
[17:46] <nacc> instigator: please pastebin output of `sudo apt install libgphoto2-dev`
[17:47] <nacc> sidetracking: no one is bullying you. You came into the support channel and asked for an opinion which is a) offtopic and b) you were given two responses and rather than say what you didn't like, you responded "no". At this point, I'm assumign you're trolling.
[17:48] <sidetracking> nacc :(
[17:48] <nacc> jfcaron: just to be sure, as well, this is a proper server install and not a dektop right?
[17:48] <nacc> *desktop
[17:48] <jfcaron> nacc: This is a desktop.
[17:48] <Vegerot> There should be a ubuntu-chat channel like there used to be with arch
[17:48] <nacc> jfcaron: ah, do you have network manager installed?
[17:48] <sidetracking> nacc u musn't take life as a joke.
[17:48] <nacc> !ot | Vegerot: there is...
[17:48] <jfcaron> nacc: Probably, it's a mostly-default install.
[17:49] <nacc> jfcaron: that's why then
[17:49] <Vegerot> Thanks
[17:49] <nacc> jfcaron: network manager owns the networking config not /e/n/i
[17:49] <sidetracking> i need to go buy smokes
[17:49] <sidetracking> later friends
[17:49] <nacc> jfcaron: you were using a server config guide on desktop
[17:49] <Vegerot> ban sidetracking please
[17:49] <frankspank> !guidelines
[17:49] <nacc> Vegerot: just ignore them
[17:49] <jfcaron> nacc: I thought by adding [ifupdown] / managed=false in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, it disabled that?
[17:49] <nacc> jfcaron: did you restart network manager?
[17:50] <jfcaron> nacc: Oh gawd, sudo service network restart != sudo service network-manager restart.
[17:50] <nacc> jfcaron: correct :)
[17:51] <Sparrow__> Ill bet those are those funny cigarettes
[17:51] <jfcaron> Ok so restarting network-manager will make it stop managing the network, then I can ifdown/ifup and it should pick up the new IP?
[17:51] <frankspank> jfcaron, ha don't worry i've done that one loads of times
[17:51] <instigator> nacc: heres the output for 'sudo apt install libgphoto2-dev': http://paste.ubuntu.com/24518263/
[17:52] <nacc> Sparrow__: :)
[17:52] <nacc> jfcaron: i think so?
[17:52] <Sparrow__> instigator, what is the ultimate goal of all this, what is it you want to use run or install
[17:52] <nacc> instigator: right so it worked
[17:52] <nacc> instigator: not sure what bug you think you're hitting now? :)
[17:53] <mclaren>  /nick mclaren
[17:53] <mclaren> lol
[17:53] <mclaren> fail
[17:53] <jfcaron> Oh what the hell, "ifconfig" returns the old IP, but now the hostname associated with the static IP I was trying to assign is responding to ping.
[17:53] <juanonymous> hello guys, i am having trouble installing couchdb in my ubuntu 16.04.1 xenial
[17:54] <juanonymous> https://pastebin.com/raw/MyaBbBcL
[17:54] <nacc> jfcaron: honestly, if you're swtiching a desktop to a static /e/n/i, you should reboot
[17:54] <nacc> jfcaron: i don't think that's a very well-tested/working path to go
[17:54] <nacc> jfcaron: also, you can use n-m to do static networking iirc
[17:54] <nacc> juanonymous: you are using a PPA
[17:54] <nacc> juanonymous: not ubuntu, not supported here, contact the PPA owner
[17:54] <instigator> Sparrow__: trying to install a HP printer using HPLIP
[17:54] <nacc> juanonymous: or use the one from the repositories
[17:55] <juanonymous> ok, thanks nacc
[17:55] <instigator> nacc: I wonder how sudo apt install works, but sudo apt-get doesnt :/
[17:55] <nacc> juanonymous: tbh, couchdb is installed fine in your case
[17:55] <nacc> juanonymous: it's other things failing (git-daemon-run and runit)
[17:55] <juanonymous> oh
[17:56] <nacc> juanonymous: you are still using a ppa for couchdb, which is still unsupporte, but it does seem to be isntalled
[17:56] <nacc> instigator: i would expect apt-get to have also worked
[17:56] <juanonymous> sorry never read the error, ok thanks nacc
[17:57] <nacc> instigator: they are just frontends to thes ame backend
[17:57] <juanonymous> btw, another question since i am here. what does PPA means?
[17:57] <nacc> !ppa | juanonymous
[17:57] <nacc> juanonymous: fwiw, i just tried to install runit in a lxd container and it installed just fine
[17:58] <nacc> juanonymous: i feel like something else is going on, as nothing in 16.04 shoudl be trying to talk to upstart
[17:59] <nacc> juanonymous: oh i wonder if you have upstart still installed (did you upgrade from 14.04)?
[17:59] <juanonymous> what do you have in mind nacc? is this some kind of a malicious content?
[17:59] <nacc> juanonymous: my lxd container didn't, so it didn't try to use upstart
[17:59] <nacc> juanonymous: well, ppas make it hard to know what is coming from where
[17:59] <instigator> nacc: i see. Thanks
[17:59] <juanonymous> nacc, nope. installed 16.04.1
[17:59] <nacc> juanonymous: ok
[17:59] <nacc> instigator: np
[18:00] <mclaren> there we go
[18:00] <nacc> juanonymous: asking someone else, one sec
[18:00] <mclaren> now this nick is mine
[18:01] <juanonymous> nacc, thank you
[18:01] <sim642> It was recently suggested to me here to run apt-get autoremove to clear out older kernels from /boot. Apparently this removed VLC and I just found out when I needed to use it. How does this even happen? Why would packages I installed be removed?
[18:02] <juanonymous> i am also having trouble with couchdb too. with their administrative logins, tried reading some article but no luck. also can't find help in #couchdb's support channel
[18:02] <nacc> sim642: you never installed vlc, but it got pulled in as a dependency of something else, which was removed
[18:02] <pavlos> sim642: very unlikely ... autoremove removes old kernels, that's it
[18:02] <nacc> sim642: *explicitly installed vlc
[18:03] <sim642> Definitely not, I am very sure I have directly installed it
[18:03] <sim642> What's dependency is vlc even?
[18:03] <nacc> pavlos: well, autoremove removes any packages without dependencies holding them and not marked
[18:03] <nacc> sim642: there are a few
[18:03] <sim642> Like?
[18:04] <Dione> Hello
[18:04] <frankspank> had nothing but issues with couchdb, wouldn't ever use it again
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> Dione: welcome, how can we help you?
[18:04] <nacc> sim642: in 17.04, at least: browser-plugin-vlc, freeplayer, smtube, etc
[18:04] <Yuki-chan> is this an RP channel
[18:04] <nacc> Yuki-chan: this is the ubuntu support channel
[18:05]  * Yuki_chan rubs on nacc's leg and purrs
[18:05] <sim642> nacc, any of which I must've installed still
[18:05] <nacc> sim642: right but you might have removed them, and then vlc is no longer required
[18:05] <Yuki_chan> you are so strong nacc :o
[18:05] <juanonymous> another thing, went to ubuntu's recent versions
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> !chat | Yuki_chan
[18:06] <nacc> Yuki_chan: please stop that
[18:06] <juanonymous> what is a mac desktop image?
[18:06] <juanonymous> 64-bit Mac (AMD64) desktop image
[18:06] <Yuki_chan> im trying to RP
[18:06] <nacc> juanonymous: for the apple intel computers
[18:06] <nacc> Yuki_chan: that is inappropriate for this channel
[18:06] <Yuki_chan> :(
[18:06] <juanonymous> i see, is there a link where i could find not a mac release?
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> !alis > Yuki_chan
[18:07] <juanonymous> oh i see one noe
[18:07] <nacc> juanonymous: where did you look? the default images are amd64 (not mac)
[18:07] <citroniks> #join python
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> !download | juanonymous
[18:07] <nacc> lotuspsychje: thanks
[18:08] <nacc> juanonymous: can you pastebin `apt-cache policy upstart`?
[18:08] <juanonymous> nacc - cdimages.ubuntu.com
[18:09] <nacc> juanonymous: you mean, e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/16.04.2/release/
[18:10] <nacc> juanonymous: you want http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/ generally
[18:10] <juanonymous> only cdimages
[18:10] <nacc> juanonymous: unless you have non-standard hardware
[18:10] <nacc> juanonymous: in which case you use cdimage
[18:10] <juanonymous> thanks
[18:11] <juanonymous> i think this link i got, is not ubuntu's image repo
[18:11] <nacc> juanonymous: cdimages.ubuntu.com = cdimage.ubuntu.com afaict
[18:11] <Komputerfreak> torrent downloads are also usually faster in my experience
[18:12] <juanonymous> yeah nacc, i was close to downloading one
[18:12] <juanonymous> thanks
[18:12] <juanonymous> i mean from cdimages.ubuntu.com
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> Komputerfreak: the non-torrent mirrors are pretty fast also
[18:13] <Some_Person> Anyone happen to know if ubuntu from a fresh install comes with either 'curl' or 'wget'?
[18:13] <Some_Person> specifically xenial
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> !info curl
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> !info wget
[18:13] <nacc> Some_Person: pretty sure curl is installed on server, as is wget
[18:14] <nacc> Some_Person: but i don't think it is on the desktop
[18:14] <Some_Person> what about wget?
[18:14] <Komputerfreak> i do not recommend getting scripts with curls and feeding them to bash as some 'tutorials' want you to
[18:14] <nacc> Some_Person: i said both?
[18:14] <Komputerfreak> *curl
[18:14] <Some_Person> nacc: Oh, you're saying neither one is?
[18:15] <Komputerfreak> cul is optional
[18:15] <Komputerfreak> curl
[18:15] <nacc> Some_Person: correct
[18:15] <nacc> Some_Person: afaict, both are preinstalled only on server
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> Some_Person: wget is installed: 1.17.1-1ubuntu1.2
[18:15] <Some_Person> lotuspsychje: great, thanks
[18:15] <nacc> lotuspsychje: preinstalled?
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> nacc: yeah got it on 16.04.2 desktop here
[18:16] <nacc> lotuspsychje: oh ok
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> just checked apt-cache policy
[18:16] <nacc> sure, i'm not seeing it in the seeds, but i guess it might get pulled in from someting else
[18:22] <sim642> I'm looking at rdepends on vlc etc and I have never removed any of them because i have never installed any of them
[18:23] <nacc> sim642: which command are you using?
[18:23] <sim642> apt-cache rdepends
[18:23] <sim642> I have very high suspicious something weird has happened
[18:23] <nacc> sim642: you can look in the apt and dpkg logs
[18:23] <nacc> sim642: autoremove won't, by default, remove anything manually installed
[18:24] <sim642> I zgrepped apt logs already but this system is so old that they've rotated by long shot
[18:24] <sim642> there's at most a year of logs but this machine is from before 14.04
[18:24] <sim642> and I've installed vlc way in the past
[18:26] <sim642> Hmm, it might not have been autoremove which removed it, but the upgrade to 16.04
[18:26] <sim642> "2017-04-23 21:57:55 remove vlc:i386 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.2 <none>"
[18:27] <Betlehem> ~ *\o/* ~ hellouders?
[18:28] <adrian_1908> I'm trying to use SFTP with a currently logged in SSH user, but get a "connection refused" error. Any idea why that might be? Shouldn't that pretty much work implicitly?
[18:28] <sim642> I'm starting to piece it together I think
[18:28] <sim642> I used to have acestream-player installed but it was from a trusty ppa that got disabled for upgrade
[18:29] <sim642> and because the version was incompatible with 16.04 too the upgrade flat out removed acestream-player
[18:29] <sim642> which is built on top of vlc
[18:29] <sim642> so for some crazy reason it removed vlc as well, despite the fact that I had explicitly installed vlc myself directly much before acestream-player
[18:30] <Betlehem> vee <3
[18:30] <sim642> Now I really wanna know why
[18:31] <nacc> Betlehem: take chat elsewhere
[18:32] <nacc> sim642: i'm not sure, can you pastebin more of the log?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: perhaps the #openssh guys will know more of it?
[18:32] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: yeah, writing a message there right now, thanks!
[18:33] <nacc> adrian_1908: maybe use a pastebin, show ssh user@host and result and sftp user@host. Also consider using sftp -vvv to get more verbose output
[18:33] <adrian_1908> ok, i'll try the verbose option.
[18:35] <sim642> nacc, it's a beast: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24518504/
[18:35] <sim642> I'm grepping out package removals from there and the others are also alarming because I've had to fix them too
[18:35] <nacc> sim642: np, looking
[18:36] <sim642> I remember having to reinstall weechat-plugins, but not weechat, without clear reason why it ever had to be removed
[18:37] <nacc> sim642: hrm, that is strange
[18:37] <nacc> sim642: how did you upgrade?
[18:37] <nacc> sim642: it also did upgrade *some* vlc packages
[18:37] <nacc> sim642: is it possible the ppa you used provided the same versioned vlc/
[18:37] <sim642> I used do-release-upgrade
[18:38] <nacc> sim642: ok, that shold have worked
[18:38] <sim642> I don't think that's the case for vlc, I use a different repo for weechat so that kind of explains it
[18:38] <sim642> although not really, disabling a repo shouldn't remove all of its packages
[18:39] <nacc> sim642: well, it will remove its rdeps, potentially
[18:39] <nacc> sim642: and it might have confused apt as its source is now gone
[18:39] <nacc> sim642: i'm not sure
[18:41] <nacc> sim642: in any case, i'm trying it in a container to see
[18:41] <nacc> sim642: but seems like it's clear now it's not autoremove?
[18:42] <sim642> Yeah, vlc wasn't removed in autoremove, just stuff left over from it
[18:42] <sim642> the dpkg log I pasted is from the upgrade
[18:42] <sidetracking> lmaooo im vaping super hard right now
[18:42] <Some_Person> !info rsync
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> !chat | sidetracking
[18:44] <faisal> hi
[18:44] <Sparrow__>  win the bet.  I said when he left he was going for one of those funny cigarettes
[18:44] <Sparrow__> I win
[18:47] <simon> hi, does anyone know the commands to mount a flash drive on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? i am getting it mixed up. the flash drive path is in the "media" folder
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> simon: 10.04 is end of life
[18:48] <Sparrow__> Things mounted as /media/show up on the desktop
[18:48] <simon> it won't mount
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> simon: install a supported version from the channels topic
[18:48] <simon> i'm not able to do that right now
[18:48] <nacc> simon: we can't support eol releases
[18:48] <Sparrow__> simon, look at it with gparted
[18:49] <simon> someone gave me the commands before but i forgot them
[18:49] <nacc> simon: and /media is the mountpoint, not the drive's path
[18:49] <faisal> you mean dd
[18:49] <faisal> simon
[18:49] <Sparrow__> but ageed that it is eol
[18:51] <simon> Im aware its eol but this is a depricated machine I do not have the option of upgrading and must get important data off of
[18:51] <nacc> simon: "i'm not able to do that right now" is a terrible response. You have not been getting security updates for years at this point
[18:51] <nacc> simon: if you're junking the machine, ok, just say that at the beginning
[18:52] <simon> apologies, that is the indeed the goal
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> !usn | simon check the security threads you might risk:
[18:53] <nacc> simon: in nay case, `mount /dev/node /mount/point`
[18:53] <nacc> simon: with options, if needed for filesystem, etc.
[18:54] <mclaren> hey
[18:55] <mclaren> i cant open gnome-terminal
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: tell us whats happening
[18:55] <adrian_1908> RE: I was missing the line `Subsystem sftp internal-sftp` in my `/etc/ssh/sshd_config` file. Now SFTP works :)
[18:55] <mclaren> so any way i try to run terminal
[18:55] <nacc> adrian_1908: makes sense )
[18:55] <mclaren> the cursor goes to the circle thing and then stops
[18:55] <mclaren> and it doesnt open
[18:55] <mclaren> trying to open from xterm also doesnt work
[18:55] <rdanter> simon: identify the /dev/node by doing dmesg, just after inserting the usb it node (sdX) will be one of the last things shown, then mount /dev/sdX /mnt
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: errors you get from starting gnome-terminal from xterm?
[18:58] <mclaren> lotuspsychje: trying to start terminal in guest session also doesnt work
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: ubuntu version?
[18:58] <mclaren> 16.04
[18:58] <sim642> nacc, where is the data about which packages have been explicitly installed stored?
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: updated system to 16.04.2?
[18:58] <nacc> sim642: apt-mark, iirc
[18:59] <mclaren> wait let me check
[18:59] <sim642> nacc, so dpkg wouldn't even know about it?
[18:59] <nacc> sim642: you mean you used dpkg to install it?
[18:59] <mclaren> how do u check lotuspsychje
[18:59] <mclaren> i mean the exact version
[18:59] <nacc> sim642: dpkg doesn't know about that, no
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: lsb_release -a
[18:59] <mclaren> yep
[18:59] <mclaren> its 16.04.2
[19:00] <rhollan> Hoa can I get NM to set me set up IPSEC vpn connections? I tried following the directions at https://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/NetworkManager but the VPN connections menu remains inactive
[19:00] <mclaren> so?
[19:00] <sim642> nacc, I used apt, but I'm just trying to think of a way why vlc would get removed
[19:00] <mclaren> lotuspsychje: it's 16.04.2
[19:00] <sim642> if the release upgrade uses dpkg to do something, maybe that's how
[19:00] <nacc> sim642: it doesn't really, and i mean apt is a wrapper around dpkg
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: good, errors from trying launch gnome-terminal?
[19:01] <pinnerup> A question: I did a clean install of Zesty. It's supposed to create a swap file. I find a 2 GB swap file created in /, but it doesn't seem to be in use. It doesn't show up in System Monitor, and 'free' doesn't show any swap.
[19:01] <mclaren> lotuspsychje: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library Using the fallback 'C' locale
[19:02] <mclaren> even though locale file is the default
[19:02] <nacc> mclaren: that's not an error
[19:02] <mclaren> its a warning i know nacc
[19:02] <nacc> pinnerup: what does `top` say?
[19:02] <pinnerup> nacc: 'top' says: "KiB Swap:        0 total,        0 free,        0 used."
[19:03] <rhollan> I mean, I can do it manually, but with NM supposedly supporting VPNs via plugins, I figured it should "just work". It don't.
[19:03] <mclaren> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24518633/
[19:03] <nacc> pinnerup: does `sudo swapon /path/to/swapfile` work?
[19:04] <nacc> mclaren: are you using stock ubuntu?
[19:04] <pinnerup> nacc: Yes.
[19:04] <mclaren> yes nacc
[19:04] <juanonymous> is there a way that i could disable my ssh login using password? just use keys?
[19:04] <nacc> pinnerup: is it in fstab?
[19:04] <juanonymous> without being root
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: are you on unity or gnome?
[19:05] <nacc> juanonymous: 'disable your ssh login'? you mean logging into your server or from your server?
[19:05] <mclaren> unity
[19:05] <pinnerup> nacc: The specific file doesn't seem to be, but I'm unsure of how to parse fstab. I've pasted it here: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24518644/
[19:05] <juanonymous> logging from ssh
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: did you mess with locale recently?
[19:05] <juanonymous> i mean i have an ssh here, without sudo access
[19:05] <nacc> pinnerup: is it /swapfile?
[19:05] <nacc> pinnerup: odd, it seems like it was commented out
[19:05] <juanonymous> and i have set keypairs, so that i would not need to login using a password
[19:06] <pinnerup> nacc: Yes, "/swapfile" exists.
[19:06] <pinnerup> nacc: It's 2 GB.
[19:06] <juanonymous> but can i disable logging with a password, without sudo access?
[19:06] <mclaren> lotuspsychje: nope
[19:06] <nacc> pinnerup: it would appear you *also* have a encrypted swap?
[19:06] <pinnerup> nacc: That looks like it, but it doesn't seem to be recognized anywhere.
[19:06] <nacc> pinnerup: what do you mean?
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-terminal xenial | mclaren this the version you have?
[19:06] <nacc> pinnerup: uncomment it?
[19:07] <mclaren> mmm
[19:07] <nacc> juanonymous: no, to change the ssh server configuration you need to be root
[19:07] <pinnerup> nacc: I mean the system doesn't seem to have or use any swapfile; there's no indication that there's anything except for that line in fstab.
[19:07] <mclaren> how do u check the version of it
[19:07] <nacc> pinnerup: is there a /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 ?
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: apt-cache policy gnome-terminal
[19:07] <juanonymous> nacc, ok thanks
[19:08] <mclaren> alright
[19:08] <pinnerup> nacc: Humm, no, there doesn't seem to be. ("/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: cannot open `/dev/mapper/cryptswap1' (No such file or directory)")
[19:08] <mclaren> yes lotuspsychje it is that version'
[19:08] <nacc> pinnerup: odd, on a fresh install, i don't know why your fstab would look like that
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: as a test can you try to launch with sudo gnome-terminal?
[19:09] <mclaren> wait i got it working again lotuspsychje
[19:09] <mclaren> thanks for the hlep
[19:09] <pinnerup> nacc: Yeah, that's puzzling. But it'll be fine if I just uncomment the first swap line (and then perhaps comment the cryptswap)?
[19:09] <eelstrebor> when i go to chmod files i get 'Read-only file system' even though i used sudo chmod or sudo -i -> chmod
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> mclaren: what did you do?
[19:11] <pinnerup> nacc: 'cat /etc/crypttab' gives: "cryptswap1 UUID=b179c476-da89-4596-a3dd-e2e8c3a3d227 /dev/urandom swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64"
[19:12] <simon> I have successfully mounted the drive, however it says I dont have permission to copy files to the destination
[19:14] <rdanter> simon: just use sudo cp ...
[19:16] <nacc> eelstrebor: a read-only fs is not a permissions issue
[19:16] <nacc> eelstrebor: it means most likely you're in the emergency shell or there are disk errors
[19:16] <nacc> pinnerup: i think so?
[19:16] <nacc> pinnerup: odd that you have crypttab
[19:16] <nacc> pinnerup: did you set up encrypted swap during the install?
[19:17] <pinnerup> nacc: No, I let the installer set everything up, but I clicked off the "encrypt home directory" option.
[19:17] <nacc> pinnerup: hrm, i don't think encrypted swap is the default
[19:17] <n-iCe> ubuntu-17.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:17] <n-iCe> is that the last iso, right
[19:18] <nacc> n-iCe: that is the current release
[19:18] <nacc> n-iCe: do you want a non-LTS release?
[19:18] <n-iCe> nacc, just the last iso
[19:18] <n-iCe> actually :)
[19:18] <pinnerup> nacc: That's odd.
[19:18] <nacc> pinnerup: agreed
[19:18] <eelstrebor> nacc, yeah, well, now i can't get the external hd to mount - kinda hard to backup the internal drive when my 2 backup drives can't copy/update the files - gonna try a reboot of this pc
[19:19] <nacc> n-iCe: why exactly?
[19:19] <n-iCe> want the last
[19:19] <n-iCe> is that bad?
[19:19] <Betlehem> AirCrack Rules..
[19:19] <Southern_Gentlem> the last hasnt been created yet
[19:20] <n-iCe> anyway, it is, downloading, thanks.
[19:20] <Betlehem> howdy
[19:21] <nacc> n-iCe: you undestand the difference between LTS and non-LTS?
[19:22] <superprower> Hello! In the settings, there is an interesting thing called 'Disable touchpad while typing'. Hovewer, it doesn't work if you set timeout before turning touchpad back on for less that a second, which is really long wait for me. Is there any way to make delay smaller, like, 0.5 or less seconds? I know options allow to set this value, but it just turns on touchpad back on immediately. Thanks!
[19:22] <n-iCe> nacc, yes, not what I asked.
[19:22] <nacc> n-iCe: you asked "is that bad?" i can't answer unless you know the difference
[19:23] <n-iCe> what does that have to do with my question? just wanted to know the last iso out there, the one I posted is, the lts version is not.
[19:23] <nacc> n-iCe: you said "want the last...is that bad?" I can't answer that unless I know you understand what installing a non-LTS means
[19:23] <n-iCe> oh god
[19:23] <n-iCe> thanks
[19:24] <nacc> n-iCe: it is bad if you don't, because you will be one of the many poeple who come here in 9 months complaining that they need to upgrade
[19:24] <n-iCe> I just wanted the last release, no idea why you make things so complicated, any way, I got my answer, thanks, don't want the LTS, don't care about the support, just wanted the last one, to try it out.
[19:25] <n-iCe> but thanks nacc I know the difference between those two
[19:25] <n-iCe> by the way, iso's are big now, 1.5GB
[19:25] <nacc> n-iCe: so?
[19:25] <n-iCe> Remeber when they were like 600MB
[19:26] <nacc> n-iCe: please keep it on topic
[19:26] <n-iCe> what?
[19:26] <nacc> n-iCe: the size of the ISOs is not a support topic
[19:26] <n-iCe> it is
[19:26] <n-iCe> now I can't use a damn CD
[19:26] <n-iCe> let's see where I keep my usb drives
[19:27] <n-iCe> oh, debian is still under a cd size
[19:27] <n-iCe> bye bye
[19:30] <Pex> Hello. Anyone knows how do i change the number of pages of my mouse wheel scroll in ubuntu-gnome?
[19:30] <cloudbud> I want to create a zookeeper script for ubuntu 14. will this work ?
[19:30] <cloudbud> https://gist.github.com/bejean/b9ff72c6d2143e16e35d
[19:31] <cloudbud> the service that i can put in init.d
[19:32] <TheEagerPadawan> hi gentlemen, i'm working with a device with 2 harddisk in it and i managed to mount the second one however i need to have sudo rights when i want to move a file from hardisk 1 to hardisk 2 is there a way around this?
[19:33] <Adnol> Hello
[19:33] <Adnol> What is up
[19:33] <FreddyP> the sky
[19:33] <Adnol> Are you a techno master
[19:34] <FreddyP> I mastered it in the 90's with some happy pills
[19:34] <Adnol> oh ok
[19:37] <YankDownUnder> FreddyP, "happy pills" + mastering techno...yep... 'splains A LOT... :)
[19:37] <n-iCe> Done, ubuntu 17.04 is installed.
[19:37] <n-iCe> Looks nice.
[19:38] <Adnol> Can you guyus help me with a ubuntu problem
[19:38] <anddam> hello
[19:38] <Adnol> i am having a ubuntu problem
[19:39] <YankDownUnder> Adnol, Could you possibly be a bit more specific?
[19:39] <n-iCe> Adnol: you should ask :D
[19:39] <Adnol> yes
[19:39] <Betlehem> :-)
[19:39] <Adnol> My quantum Entanglement Generator is using ubuntu and for some reason, I cannot align the Proton Accelerator and the Particle Synchronization array
[19:39] <cloudbud> can someone verify this script is compatible with ubuntu14?
[19:39] <Adnol> what should I do?
[19:39] <anddam> I switched keyboard to a compact layout one, with this keyboard alt+` doesn't cycle windows of current programs, how can I inspect what's not working?
[19:40] <cloudbud> https://gist.github.com/bejean/b9ff72c6d2143e16e35d
[19:40] <Adnol> will that work?
[19:40] <YankDownUnder> Adnol, What's the largest hammer you own?
[19:40] <Adnol> I have a sledgehammer
[19:40] <YankDownUnder> Adnol, There ya go. Issue resolved.
[19:41] <Adnol> Are you trolling me!!!
[19:41] <Adnol> Are you trying to make me break my invention
[19:41] <Adnol> You fool!
[19:41] <Adnol> you have no idea what you are doing!
[19:41] <YankDownUnder> Adnol, Yes and yes, but no. I'd not want to interfere with Quantum Entanglement Generation.
[19:42] <Adnol> >:(
[19:42] <Adnol> you are trying to prank me bro
[19:42] <Pex>  Anyone knows how do i change the number of pages/lines of my mouse wheel scroll in ubuntu-gnome?
[19:43] <YankDownUnder> Pex, In a "web browser" or in "normal" applications?
[19:43] <Adnol> OH POOP! I SPILLED CAMPBELL'S SOUP ON MY VIRTUAL PARTICLE STABILIZER
[19:44] <Pex> YankDownUnder, web browser
[19:44] <Adnol> Pex
[19:44] <Adnol> can you help me
[19:44] <Pex> wait, isn't the same?
[19:44] <Adnol> Pex
[19:45] <Adnol> PEX!!!
[19:45] <YankDownUnder> Pex, no...there are settings for "web browsers" that are going to basically be independent of the "desktop"...as well, it's also going to be dependent on the desktop that you're using.
[19:45] <Pex> Abnol, what?
[19:45] <Adnol> can you hlep me
[19:46] <enclude> hello, i have downloaded linux mint iso 18.1 serena. I want to import the key and test the authenticity, but kleopatra does not import anything as it says. What is wrong?
[19:46] <Adnol> synchronize my meson harmonizer array
[19:46] <Rubiksmomo> Hey. After installing some updates my Ubuntu just shows a purple screen when I boot. It works if I go to advanced and pick the 2nd newest version. What should I do next? I'm worried that the older version gets cleaned and I can't boot at all anymore.
[19:46] <Pex> YankDownUnder, humm... i guess web browser it is
[19:46] <jushur> !mint enclude
[19:47] <Adnol> pex why dont you help
[19:47] <enclude> jushur: It is just an gpg question
[19:47] <YankDownUnder> enclude, Official support channel is #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[19:47] <Pex> YankDownUnder, i'm looking for a feature like windows has for setthe number of lines of the mouse wheel
[19:48] <frankspank> can someone recommend a good wireframing mockup tool for ubuntu?
[19:48] <Adnol> ivE SAID YOUR NAME LIKE FREAKING 10 TIMES
[19:48] <Adnol> STFU PEX BITCH
[19:48] <YankDownUnder> Pex, The same feature exists in linux - you merely have to look for it.
[19:48] <Adnol> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[19:48] <enclude> YankDownUnder: sry
[19:48] <Pex> Adnol, you're problem is related to physics, and i'm no physicist :)
[19:49] <Adnol> WHY DIDN"T YOU TELL ME THAT BEFORE
[19:49] <Pex> i was answering YankDownUnder, sorry
[19:50] <Rubiksmomo> Adnol, You want all 1882 users to tell you what they don't know? Then how do you find the correct answer among those "I don't knows"?
[19:50] <jushur> dremo: #ubuntu-offtopic plz
[19:50] <Adnol> I just want help :(
[19:50] <pavlos> Pex: this may help ... http://www.webupd8.org/2015/12/how-to-change-mouse-scroll-wheel-speed.html
[19:51] <Rubiksmomo> Adnol, Just be patient. Search online meanwhile. Ask again after a while.
[19:52] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo: Proprietary Graphic's driver ?? what release and what is the graphic chip set ?
[19:53] <Rubiksmomo> Bashing-om, GeForce GTX 960M with X.Org driver. Never got the Nvidia driver working properly. I think I have dual GPU and stuff. There was some update to Ubuntu core, maybe they fixed something.
[19:54] <Rubiksmomo> Might work now if I reboot
[19:59] <bratchley> how do I disable unattended upgrades?
[20:00] <Bashing-om> Rubiksmomo: I ran 14.04 with a nVidia GT710 . It has no nouveau support . ( kepler chip set is "unrecognized") .
[20:03] <jvelasquez> Hello. I have a new service I added to /etc/systemd/system,  which starts fine, but systemd keeps restarting it every 5 minutes.
[20:05] <YankDownUnder> jvelasquez, Did you use "systemctl" to add the service, or did you merely create the service and copy it to /etc/systemd/whatever ?
[20:06] <codebam> hey, I installed ubuntu server on my drive. when I reboot into it I'm just greeted by a flashing prompt
[20:06] <codebam> same thing happened with debian
[20:06] <codebam> so I'm not sure what the issue is
[20:06] <jvelasquez> YankDownUnder,  first I added file /etc/systemd/system/jvelasquez.service,  and then:  systemctl enable jvelasquez.service && systemctl start jvelasquez
[20:07] <Perigee> Does anyone know how to launch a script after connecting to a specific wifi network?
[20:07] <codebam> maybe I'll try bios boot
[20:07] <YankDownUnder> jvelasquez, Fair enough...
[20:07] <codebam> (legacy)
[20:07] <frankspank> codebam, isn't ubuntu server headless?
[20:07] <codebam> frankspank: what do you mean? I can't boot into getty?
[20:08] <codebam> like I mean I'm not even seeing grub
[20:09] <frankspank> codebam, ooo
[20:10] <codebam> yeah I'm going to try bios boot. I'm booted into my other hard drive right now. we'll see how it goes I guess
[20:10] <frankspank> codebam, you dual booting?
[20:10] <codebam> no
[20:10] <codebam> seperate drives
[20:10] <frankspank> codebam, guess you've tried holding shift or escape?
[20:11] <codebam> when?
[20:11] <codebam> no I haven't
[20:11] <codebam> anyways, rebooting now. I'll try shift or esc
[20:11] <frankspank> codebam, if shit/escape doesn't help then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:13] <bratchley> If I comment out all the Allowed-Origins in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades will that be enough to avoid updates?
[20:14] <frankspank> codebam, although if its a clean HD I'd just start again and reinstall ubuntu server
[20:24] <scythefwd> enin folks
[20:26] <scythefwd> ok folks.. must have utilities?
[20:27] <codebam> frankspank: okay, I'll try that. I've had this same issue after installing debian so it must be some bios options or something
[20:27] <codebam> oh hmm
[20:27] <codebam> never mind that's a boot repair cd
[20:27] <frankspank> codebam, is the boot sort order correct?
[20:28] <codebam> I'm manually selecting it to boot. my first boot option is a uefi option, but I have my bios set to try legacy first on drives
[20:29] <scythefwd> trying to multi boot?
[20:29] <codebam> no, 2 seperate drives
[20:29] <frankspank> codebam, def sounds like a bios issue then
[20:29] <codebam> yeah I'll try toggling on and off some of the intel security shit
[20:30] <codebam> anyways. be back in 10 or 15 mins if it doesn't boot
[20:31] <scythefwd> i came in to the middle of that... what was his issue?
[20:38] <jvelasquez> if using systemd,  how could I autologin a user and start up an X11 session without a silly display manager?
[20:38] <anddam> where is the default alt+` for cycling windows defined? it's not in Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts
[20:41] <scythefwd> trying to change the key binding for the switch applications anddam?
[20:44] <anddam> sort of
[20:45] <anddam> I got a magicforce68 and with it I cannot cycle windows of Terminal, that I use quite a lot
[20:46] <scythefwd> ah.. trying to map that to a button on the mouse? (is it a mouse, or pad of some sort?)
[20:46] <anddam> I'm looking into reassign the action to whatever code the key is sennding, but I cannot even figure who's catching it
[20:46] <codebam> yep so still not booting even after toggling a bunch of intel security settings on and off
[20:46] <anddam> no, it's a tiny keyboard
[20:47] <codebam> I'm not really sure what the issue is at this point
[20:47] <codebam> I mean I'm still able to boot into Arch fine
[20:47] <scythefwd> interesting.. last mini kb I looked at was the happy hacker light lol.. bout 10 years ago
[20:47] <scythefwd> ok code.. I came into this about 1/2 way through
[20:47] <scythefwd> you have multiple linux distros installed, can only boot to one on hd 0?
[20:47] <anddam> scythefwd: it's not "mini", it's 68% or o
[20:48] <anddam> so
[20:48] <scythefwd> mini enough ;)
[20:48] <anddam> and quite enjoyable too, for about 50$, it's a mechanical
[20:48] <scythefwd> nice
[20:48] <anddam> point is I strongly feel to remap that key
[20:48] <codebam> scythefwd: okay so basically I installed ubuntu server, finished the installation, and I'm just booting to a flashing prompt. I have 2 seperate drives in my machine right now, one has Arch on it, the other Ubuntu Server (which doesn't boot).
[20:49] <scythefwd> I'm "stuck" on either a laptop or a crappy logitec bluetooth that I have for my desktop so my kids dont steal it lol
[20:49] <anddam> I find such a task as "figure what software component is assigning this keyboard shortcuts" quite difficult on linux
[20:49] <scythefwd> if you disable the arch drive, does the server boot?
[20:49] <scythefwd> i believe that is handled by x
[20:49] <codebam> I'll try. I have to unscrew it
[20:50] <scythefwd> codebam ?  justpull the power cord to the disk.. wait, you mean pop open the case.. duh.. sorry, blonde moment
[20:51] <scythefwd> anddam - found a wiki article for arch that talks about x.org key bindings
[20:52] <anddam> scythefwd: URL?
[20:52] <anddam> oh the query
[20:53] <anddam> my bad
[20:53] <scythefwd> sent it to ya im PM
[20:53] <anddam> yep, that's what I just wrote
[20:53] <scythefwd> should take you directly to the article
[20:53] <scythefwd> says some of it is dated.. so I'm not sure how helpful it is
[20:55] <anddam> well I remember about setxkbmap/xmodmap, point is this is happening at GNOME/Unity level
[20:55] <lavinho> good night
[20:55] <Betlehem> :-) EHLO From 127.0.0,.1 Your host is *!*@*Splendid.night > Weclome to channel #Ubuntu
[20:55] <lavinho> how to put sound works lenovo ideapad 100s ?
[20:55] <anddam> I'd like to be able to match the responsible for the keyboard handling without having to remap
[20:56] <scythefwd> I figured those would be mostly defined in x, and only special stuff by the wdm
[20:56] <YankDownUnder> anddam, What is the current "key combo" for you to switch desktops?
[20:57] <dpg__> Monitor no longer initialized on boot (nvidia card): tried to boot ubuntu off usb for install, it just sat turning on the spinner, hit reboot, now monitor won't boot up. What can I do to correct this?
[20:57] <dpg__> monitor won't turn on at all now.
[20:57] <anddam> YankDownUnder: mm desktops I'm not sure, I have to check. I usually do ctrl-alt-arrows
[20:57] <anddam> YankDownUnder: are you referring to a "Switch to desktop N" shortcut?
[20:58] <dpg__> Nvidia DVI ports (worked before plugging in and rebooting off usb)
[20:58] <scythefwd> ohh.. forgot about that one
[20:58] <vex8ion> Howdy... Could someone tell me if this {OpenGL version 2.0 with the framebuffer object extension} is something I can rectify through software or is a hardware issue? Thanks inadvance for your time...
[20:58] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | dpg__ Maybe try:
[20:58] <YankDownUnder> anddam, Depends on the desktop - in "Gnome3" it's "CTRL+ALT+UP/DOWN" to switch through the desktops...
[20:59] <anddam> YankDownUnder: I'm using default 16.04, I figure that's Unity and not vanilla GNOME3, right?
[20:59] <YankDownUnder> anddam, Ah. Unity. Not a fan, bro...
[20:59] <scythefwd> alt+tab doesnt let you scroll through the different open term windows?
[21:00] <wishe> What window manager can i use that does not use up my battery life twice as fast a windows machine?
[21:00] <YankDownUnder> scythefwd, "tasks" - it allows you to view running apps
[21:00] <wishe> And i mean windows is supposed to be bloated right. Ubuntu with Unity is bloatmaster
[21:00] <anddam> scythefwd: you need to pause on a program for that, the alt+` is way handier
[21:00] <wishe> It literally eats battery
[21:00] <wishe> Compiz is insane
[21:00] <scythefwd> wishe.. win 10 isnt actually that bad
[21:00] <dpg__> Bashing-om: I can't even get the monitor to turn on, how would I edit the boot parameter?
[21:00] <YankDownUnder> wishe, XFce, LxDE, WindowMaker, Openbox, Fluxbox...
[21:01] <scythefwd> but there are a lot of lightweight wdm's, xfce, fluxbox, cinnamon seems to be pretty light too
[21:01] <wishe> xfce, is that hard to install on ubuntu? I tried to install LxDE and managed to break my system in the process
[21:01] <marvin3> is it possible to get /dev/fb0 interface on top of X in ubuntu?
[21:01] <wishe> Had to revert to old Unity
[21:02] <xangua> Wishe have you tried tlp? http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/advanced-power-management-tool-tlp-sees.html?m=1
[21:02] <Bashing-om> apes: Ouch ! . And when re-booting .. no screen too as bios loads ?
[21:02] <wishe> I tried powertop, it made my battery even worse actually
[21:02] <dpg__> Bashing-om: no screen as bios loads
[21:02] <scythefwd> dpg.. do you also have onboard?
[21:03] <scythefwd> onboard video
[21:03] <dpg__> scythefwd: there is, I tried that as well. I had to unscrew a port cover that said don't remove.
[21:03] <codebam> scythefwd: no laptop, so I had to unscrew the drive. this is my thinkpad
[21:03] <codebam> it didn't boot without the arch drive in though
[21:03] <codebam> same thing
[21:03] <codebam> just a prompt
[21:04] <scythefwd> ah.. gotcha, and mow im jealous,
[21:04] <scythefwd> sounds like a borked load.. did you put the boot loader on that hdd?
[21:05] <scythefwd> since you dont have to and chain with grub.. its not a given
[21:05] <dpg__> scythefwd: you talking to me?
[21:05] <scythefwd> dpg, yes sorry
[21:06] <dpg__> It was in the middle of just spinning or blinking with a cursor prompt
[21:06] <dpg__> so I rebooted thinking it was just hung.
[21:06] <scythefwd> non dominant had typing.. i keep it abreveiated
[21:06] <scythefwd> i want a 2nd disk for my laptop
[21:06] <dpg__> scythefwd: no worries. but it shouldn't have borked everything, right?
[21:06] <scythefwd> wouldnt think so
[21:06] <wishe> xangua: Is tlp hard to set up?
[21:07] <Bashing-om> dpg__: Before the operating system level then. Might power down and pull the mains power - check the display cable (desktop) . power back up and hope .
[21:07] <scythefwd> my lappy wont boot uefi windows.. sometimes theyre quirky
[21:07] <scythefwd> though mineis older
[21:07] <codebam> maybe I'll try installing without the other drive inserted
[21:07] <xangua> wishe: tlp needs barely any setup if you use Intel
[21:08] <scythefwd> xangua.. got a brief synopsis of tlp?
[21:08] <dpg__> Bashing-om: hm, beyond hope?
[21:09] <xangua> scythefwd: your can either let it work with default settings or play with them
[21:09] <Bashing-om> dpg__: Never, but it is not an ubuntu issue as there is no display as bios loads .
[21:09] <xangua> And it's already in Ubuntu's default repository
[21:09] <scythefwd> just pwr management?
[21:10] <codebam> I tried reinstalling grub
[21:10] <scythefwd> oh.. im running a ssd, and special things i need to consider in linux?  trim?
[21:11] <dpg__> Bashing-om: is it possible the output for video is no longer going through the nvidia card, maybe I should remove the nvidia card and trythe on-board video without the card attached.
[21:11] <Bashing-om> dpg__: That too is one thing to try . Possible that the card has died .
[21:12] <dpg__> Bashing-om: wow, convenient as I'm getting in a Titan Xp today.
[21:12] <dpg__> :P hopefully this box doesn't kill every card it touches.
[21:12] <ash_workz> hey, so, stupid question but, I installed php-gd via `sudo apt-get install ...`; that shows up in dpkg but php -m doesn't show the module... what am I forgetting?
[21:13] <YankDownUnder> dpg__, Could it be that the BIOS defaulted to the "onboard" vid and that's why you're not getting output...? (I hate thinking that expensive video cards die)
[21:13] <scythefwd> dpg.. had an hp that i thought was killing vid cards, ended up being mobo
[21:13] <Bashing-om> dpg__: Got a large enough power supply for a high end card ?
[21:17] <lavinho> help me
[21:17] <lavinho> linuxium images not found
[21:17] <dpg__> Bashing-om: yeah, but the video card I'm trying to use now is some stock nvidia card
[21:17] <lavinho> lenovo ideapad 100s
[21:17] <dpg__> scythefwd: what was wrong with the mobo?
[21:18] <scythefwd> @dpg unsure
[21:18] <wishe> xangua, I have a Intel Xeon and a Nvidia QM1000
[21:18] <scythefwd> couldnt see and leaking or bulged caps, but pcie port was not working
[21:18] <scythefwd> and my usb ports were dying
[21:19] <dpg__> scythefwd: funny enough this is an HP
[21:19] <scythefwd> doh
[21:19] <dpg__> :poop emoji:
[21:19] <Zalabaslea> :-)
[21:19] <scythefwd> dpg_: not a 500-123 I hope lol
[21:20] <marvin3> how do I restart X?
[21:20] <scythefwd> It died the first time after about 2 years
[21:20] <scythefwd> marvin ctrl+shift+backspace
[21:20] <scythefwd> no, 1 year.. just under actually
[21:21] <scythefwd> got it repaired by hp.. then again it died 2 years later
[21:21] <said> hi
[21:22] <wishe> What would you say is reasonable battery life on a new laptop?
[21:23] <scythefwd> do you have a 6 cell or a 9 cell, what are the specs?
[21:24] <scythefwd> macbook pro.. 7-8 hours .. a more full featured laptop.. I see about 4-5 on my 12 cell, about 3 on my 9 cell
[21:24] <dpg__> oh snap, I fixed it.
[21:24] <dpg__> wtf
[21:25] <YankDownUnder> dpg__, BIOS screwup?
[21:25] <scythefwd> but my laptop is a few years old.. its an old 6410 with an i7 620m, no discrete video, ssd, dvd, 8gb ram, wifi..
[21:25] <scythefwd> what was it dpg?
[21:25] <wishe> 86mh 6 cell, Intel Xeon E3-1505M v5, 32gb ram, 512GB M.2, Nvidia Quadro M1000M
[21:25] <wishe> wh*
[21:26] <dpg__> BIOS powered up, then dumps me into a blank screen
[21:26] <dpg__> but at least the monitor is powered up now
[21:26] <wishe> I get 7+ hours on windows
[21:26] <dpg__> still can't change boot order
[21:26] <scythefwd> I'd not expect into less than 3-4 hours on that wishe.. probably more
[21:27] <dpg__> I don't know how I fixed it. I took the nvidia card out, stripped the board of extraneous plugs (front panel, etc)
[21:27] <dpg__> blew on the video card (for dust and goot luck)
[21:27] <wishe> ok scythefwd then something is probably wrong with my setup
[21:27] <dpg__> good*
[21:27] <dpg__> then it booted up the bios screen, but nothing after that
[21:28] <simon> best channel for general ubuntu mate tech support?
[21:28] <scythefwd> your other os is booting fine yes? when you have the drive plugged in?
[21:28] <wishe> Is 4.8.0.51 the newest stable kernel?
[21:28] <YankDownUnder> simon, #ubuntu-mate
[21:28] <simon> thanks!
[21:28] <Bashing-om> !nomodeeset | dpg__ Now try ::
[21:28] <scythefwd> simon, I think it would depend on the issues lol
[21:28] <dpg__> now it's back to doing the same thing. other OS is not booting fine.
[21:28] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | dpg__ Now try ::
[21:30] <dpg__> This is seriously bizarre. I can't figure out what's triggering it to go back into this mode. It worked twice, then no more.
[21:30] <scythefwd> so even with nothing else plugged in, just basic necessities it's .. displeased?
[21:31] <marvin3> why can't I install xserver-xorg-video-fbdev on ubuntu 16.04:
[21:31] <marvin3> The following packages have unmet dependencies: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev : Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.17.99.902)
[21:31] <marvin3> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:31] <Bashing-om> dpg__: Hybrid graphics .. such that the system reads the xorg.conf file and the nVida card is not present ... and the system pukes ??
[21:31] <YankDownUnder> marvin3, Are you in a terminal?
[21:32] <scythefwd> what do you have installed marvin?
[21:32] <marvin3> YankDownUnder X is running
[21:32] <YankDownUnder> marvin3, Are you performing the update/upgrade in a terminal?
[21:32] <marvin3> scythefwd a lot of things, too many to list
[21:32] <wishe> Has anyone ever noticed an issue where suddenly the Ubuntu Dash/Launcher menu, is smaller than normal when you try to open it. And it wont extend?
[21:33] <scythefwd> marvin.. I mean what version of x are you running
[21:33] <marvin3> YankDownUnder not sure I understand the question.. i am trying to install it in terminal under x using apt install
[21:33] <marvin3> scythefwd how can I check?
[21:34] <aruns> Hi, I am running ftp 0.17-33 on ubuntu 16.04, I notice that it does not come with tab completion during an FTP session by default, I recall that there is a version 1 and version 2 that you can switch between for the FTP command line client in order to enable tab completion but cannot fully remember and nothing about it in the ftp man page, does anyone know how I can enable tab completion?
[21:34] <dpg__> Bashing-om: well it doesn't even display the BIOS
[21:34] <aruns> I am guessing I need to install a more up to date ftp package.
[21:34] <scythefwd> apt-cache search |grep xserver
[21:34] <aruns> One that enables tab completion.
[21:34] <aruns> Either that or install something like lftp.
[21:34] <YankDownUnder> marvin3, So you're in a terminal...THAT is what I'm trying to get at...SO, what you can do is: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
[21:34] <aruns> The hosting provider I am using only allows for FTP connections.
[21:35] <wishe> TLP seems like it does it's job, It looks to have extended the battery life by 2 hours
[21:35] <wishe> Thanks guys
[21:35] <scythefwd> yank.. why upgrade then dist upgrade?  wouldnt the dist upgrade catch everything?
[21:35] <scythefwd> wishe.. just remember.. that is an estimated #
[21:36] <aruns> Actually, it looks like I need to create a .editrc file
[21:36] <wishe> I know but it helps to know that the estimation has gone up and the percentage seems to move slower
[21:36] <marvin3> scythefwd that gave me 345 lines
[21:36] <dpg__> ok bios boots up
[21:36] <scythefwd> then tighten up your grep
[21:36] <dpg__> going through process of elimination
[21:36] <Bashing-om> dpg__: Desk top or lap top machine ? - able to switch out the display cable ?
[21:37] <dpg__> Desktop, also this is weird, Bios boot up twice, then no more, same as before.
[21:38] <wishe> Haha so i restarted my computer and now my battery life goes from estimated 6 hours to 1,5 hours
[21:39] <wishe> TLP is bugged  like i suspected
[21:39] <scythefwd> well, off to init 6 this and see if I get the same thing as wishe
[21:40] <marvin3> YankDownUnder I did  that but I am still getting the same error
[21:41] <scythefwd> and I see the same thing.. huge drop in extimated time
[21:42] <minimec> wishe: Your computer will always boot in 'performance' mode and then change the cpu governor to 'ondemand'. On the next 'power pull' of your battery, you will see that 'battery estimation' will again rise.
[21:42] <wishe> scythefwd: after about 2 mins it goes back to 6 hours. I think it registers high power usage during boot
[21:42] <wishe> Ok minimec
[21:42] <wishe> But performance is only gonna give me 2 hours?
[21:42] <wishe> I am not running a 1080GTX
[21:43] <AppAraat> hello, is this method still relevant for 16.04? https://askubuntu.com/a/85223
[21:43] <scythefwd> youd be surprized at what your proc can pull lol
[21:43] <YankDownUnder> marvin3, Reboot, try again.
[21:43] <scythefwd> bbl.. gotta try and put a kid down for a nap without ww3 breaking out
[21:43] <wishe> Did yours go back scythefwd ?
[21:43] <minimec> wishe: If you now start a cpu intensive task, like a flash video in 1080p in full screen, battery life will obviously go down fast again....
[21:43] <scythefwd> yup
[21:44] <scythefwd> backup to 4 hours
[21:44] <cloudbud> I am getting permission denied on this script https://pastebin.com/3x1i9rfM when trying to start
[21:44] <wishe> scythefwd: i started a youtube film, and it went from 6 to 3:30
[21:44] <wishe> minimec: **
[21:44] <scythefwd> which works for me.. cause my battery is still 67%
[21:44] <wishe> And that is on 66%
[21:45] <marvin3> YankDownUnder same :|
[21:45] <YankDownUnder> marvin3, In the terminal, can you try: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade [21:45] <wishe> The reason I am wondering so much about this power thing is because I have never used a laptop as my workstation before only for meetings and have not worried about power. Is it normal?
[21:46] <dpg__> ok, now it's just hung on the BIOS screen
[21:46] <WizardOfMos> t
[21:46] <dpg__> I *think* if I reseat the video card (completely take it out) then boot, then turn off the computer, and replace the video card, the BIOS screen comes on
[21:46] <marvin3> YankDownUnder 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:47] <dpg__> now it's just hung there
[21:47] <wishe> dpg__: did you try to boot in recovery?
[21:47] <dannyxn> hello
[21:47] <dannyxn> how are you doing?
[21:48] <wishe> Hello dannyxn
[21:48] <dpg__> wishe: I don't get the option. It just hangs on the BIOS screen.
[21:48] <dannyxn> hello @wishe
[21:48] <YankDownUnder> marvin3, So...did that resolve the issue?
[21:49] <dannyxn> how to send message directly to sb but on public chat?
[21:49] <wishe> Does not sound like an Ubuntu problem dpg__
[21:49] <wishe> Sounds  like hardware
[21:49] <marvin3> YankDownUnder no. how can I check the version of xserver-xorg-core?
[21:50] <dannyxn> --V i suppose
[21:50] <cloudbud> My service script says permission denied
[21:50] <cloudbud> how to resolve that
[21:50] <Zalabas> chmod +x app.sh
[21:50] <marvin3> I think it is a library or something. it isn't a program
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> marvin3, You can just use the Software Center, or Synaptic, really...that's simple...I am curious, though, is there a reason you're mucking about with your XWindows?
[21:50] <cloudbud> My service script https://pastebin.com/3x1i9rfMAC
[21:54] <DRLZ> Hello guys, i just installed linux mint with my old /home folder in another partition. All my browsers cant display the font properly. How can I fix it? Any ideas?
[21:55] <marvin3> YankDownUnder, I want to continue devloping this program without having access to the embedded device it is actually for. getting framebuffer to work under X would simplify testing
[21:56] <dpg__> I wonder if HP bricked my bios because I tried to install Ubuntu.
[21:56] <YankDownUnder> marvin3, AH...well, that answers THAT question...hmm...in all reality, you might want to dig through the wikis/forums pertaining to development of cross-platform applications...that is where I'd start, matey...
[21:56] <pvh_sa> hi there. I'm on 16.04 trying to get my bluetooth headset working. I connected and `bluetoothctl info` shows the device as connected with Headset, Audio Sink, A/V Remote Control Target, A/V Remote Control and Handfree profiles. it shows up as Handsfree in the sound settings but if I select it I can't get any audio
[21:56] <scythefwd> I would find that unlikely dpg):
[21:58] <DRLZ> Hello guys, i just installed linux mint with my old /home folder in another partition. All my browsers cant display the font properly. How can I fix it? Any ideas?
[21:58] <scythefwd> ohhh bluetooth.. kind of looking to get a usb bt .. anyone have any that didnt work for them?
[21:59] <minimec> DRLZ: LAst time I had a font problem in the browser (missing italic fonts) I reinstalled the following fonts... 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall fonts-cantarell fonts-dejavu-core fonts-freefont-ttf'
[21:59] <dpg__> scythefwd: hm, I'm going to take this new power supply out and try with the old one.
[21:59] <dpg__> moved from a 450W to 600W
[21:59] <wishe> dpg__: why would they do that? It is your laptop. I am on a Dell myself, and there are some issues with Ubuntu and nvidia and there was also some issues with suspend mode and other kernel stuff but it seems to be resolved now
[21:59] <marvin3> YankDownUnder yeah I'll try that route. anyway thanks for trying!
[21:59] <Zalabas> Thats the Spirit.
[22:00] <pvh_sa> scythefwd, I've got a "Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle" - USB ID 0a12:0001 - works with some things, not others
[22:00] <wishe> Which nvidia drivers are people using anyhow?
[22:00] <wishe> I am still on 370
[22:00] <Zalabas> 730 4gb GDdr5 should be enought?
[22:00] <scythefwd> I'm not.. running the mostly useless intel integrated here
[22:00] <scythefwd> 730?
[22:01] <Zalabas> scythefwd: i use integrated
[22:01] <dpg__> wishe: no idea. why would it boot fine into ubuntu from USB and then when I restart it, just *sometimes* boot to bios and other times hang?
[22:01] <scythefwd> ah
[22:01] <dpg__> feels weird.
[22:01] <Zalabas> but next i7 will come with a gt730 4gb gddr5 at least
[22:01] <Zalabas> bumblebeed :-)
[22:01] <wishe> no idea dpg__
[22:01] <scythefwd> I run a 740 ti oc 2gb in my desktop.. and whatever came in my i7 in the laptop (arendale cpu)
[22:02] <Zalabas> well yeah the difference is huge
[22:02] <Zalabas> this ivy is enought
[22:02] <minimec> wishe: Stock ubuntu version 375.39 with a gtx1060, but I face some problems revently with the latest kernel updates...
[22:02] <wishe> My laptop has built in too, but i hope and think the nvidia GPU is actually active
[22:02] <Zalabas> well at least i would get a 1050Ti-FTW
[22:03] <Zalabas> adquire. but 4gb gddr5 should be %ok% ?
[22:03] <Zalabas> much cheaper and forlinux only.
[22:03] <scythefwd> sorry, 750 ti.. lol
[22:03] <wishe> minimec: ok, i was using 381 but it was buggy
[22:03] <scythefwd> yeah, 4gb is fine.. I actually only have 2gb on my desktop card
[22:04] <Zalabas> lets compare GTS450 with GT730 :) idem :) GTS450 that rocked sabayon to hell :-()
[22:04] <wishe> How do i check which GPU is actually acrive?
[22:04] <wishe> active*
[22:04] <scythefwd> I hope to upgrade to 1060 soonish
[22:04] <Zalabas> then is enought...just compare with a GTS450 1gb if its >* get it if its <*^still waiiing
[22:05] <wishe> I wonder how the Q1000M is compared to the 1050
[22:05] <Zalabas> hmm the gentoo tty was violet.
[22:05] <minimec> wishe: glxinfo | grep renderer
[22:05] <Zalabas> not greeny :) another guarantee of quality and things hasnt changed too much :)
[22:05] <wishe> glxinfo command not found
[22:05] <wishe> I am guessing that is not good
[22:05] <Zalabas> apt-get install mesa-utils
[22:06] <minimec> wishe: ^^
[22:07] <wishe> OpenGL renderer string: Quadro M1000M/PCIe/SSE2 so i guess im all good
[22:07] <wishe> cheers
[22:08] <Sparrow__> question:  where can I find the switchover from apt-get install to apt install
[22:09] <oerheks> Sparrow__, it is a transition with systemD, apt-get works equal as apt, untill further notice
[22:09] <scythefwd> the switchover?  both work on my ubuntu based system (not saying its accurate for ubuntu)
[22:10] <scythefwd> are they diff binaries or just an alias oerheks
[22:11] <Sparrow__> I just saw a situation where apt-get worked and apt did not or the other way around
[22:11] <Sparrow__> Getts blurry after awhile
[22:11] <Sparrow__> oerheks, thanks
[22:11] <oerheks> i think it ithey are different binairies indeed, https://www.maketecheasier.com/apt-vs-apt-get-ubuntu/
[22:12] <Sparrow__> Jumping between distros just got a bit harder
[22:15] <kenrin> apt works a bit better for dependecies,  otherwise they are both the same i thought
[22:15] <scythefwd> lol.. thats the fun of linux sparrow.. its like a box of chocolates.. sometimes you get into a distro.. and you wonder why they would ever do that
[22:16] <Sparrow__> Aptitude just a bit different too
[22:16] <Sparrow__> scythefwd, I was with Ubuntu for many years then they did that unity thing and I defected to mint
[22:17] <scythefwd> I tried ubuntu hoary, and occelot, and one other.. whatever the j one was
[22:17] <scythefwd> now I'm on mint too
[22:17] <wishe> Is Mint the one that uses Cinnamon?
[22:17] <scythefwd> trying to see if its really useable for the old man
[22:18] <scythefwd> wishe, its one of the available wdm's
[22:18] <Sparrow__> wishe, Cinnamon is one of their flavors, I use Mate
[22:18] <scythefwd> my father is a bit of a neophyte.. so I have to make sure everything he could possibly want will work without difficulty
[22:18] <Sparrow__> Im not trying to start a discussion on Mint
[22:18] <scythefwd> getting amazon prime videos to work was harder than it should have been
[22:19] <Zalabas> Im against it if my opinionations count
[22:19] <Sparrow__> scythefwd, it should hve just been install chrome and make sure you have drm enabled
[22:19] <kenrin> mint blocks security and upstream and gets hacked ISOs injected
[22:19] <wishe> I kind of like Unity when it comes to UI. I usually use alt tab, and ctrl alt arrows or ctrl shit numpads to navigate all the windows and position them, and having that one task bare with my apps on the bottom serves me well
[22:20] <Zalabas> life's better even with a nintendo game boy pocket
[22:20] <wishe> Windows key and search aswell
[22:20] <Sparrow__> kenrin, WHere did yo read that?
[22:20] <wishe> Works like it should
[22:20] <dpg__> ok, so reverted back to 460W power supply from 600(B)W power supply
[22:20] <kenrin> Which part sparrow__ ?
[22:20] <dpg__> that seems to have fixed it? but wtf. why?
[22:20] <Sparrow__> any of it
[22:21] <scythefwd> sparrow.. I had chrome in there.. had to go find the HAL package before it would play
[22:21] <Zalabas> in the beginning i rejected it so the spam finally captch me.. and i see.. :) not secure...
[22:21] <kenrin> well they got hacked last year,  check any news site.  The rest I read on various articles and reddit and mint forums
[22:21] <wishe> nice dpg__ i guess you needed more power
[22:21] <wishe> Files on Ubuntu though is pretty bad
[22:21] <wishe> Is it possible to use Dolphin or Nemo?
[22:21] <Zalabas> yes
[22:21] <Zalabas> why not engrampa
[22:21] <dpg__> reverted. I went from 600W -> 460W
[22:21] <scythefwd> wishe.. windows pups up our menu too, and has search there
[22:21] <scythefwd> who made your psu
[22:22] <wishe> dpg__: i guess cpu broken
[22:22] <Sparrow__> kenrin, Read a bit more carefully and i is offtopic, thanks and enjoy ubuntu
[22:22] <Zalabas> who needs a PSU ? electricity provider doesnt need a PS***EOF From client**
[22:22] <Zalabas> i use 1 external ;=)
[22:23] <Zalabas> thanks
[22:23] <wishe> There is so much to explore in the Linux world, distros, wdms, file managers, launchers, and much much more. i love it
[22:23] <wishe> But I am scared to make my system crap by just installing and installing stuff
[22:24] <Sparrow__> wishe, set up dual linux boot
[22:24] <Zalabas> then dd to another drive when u consider its perfect
[22:24] <wishe> It seems like there is alot of instructions to just install alot of stuff with apt, but there is never anything about removing your old shit
[22:24] <wishe> Like if i install Xfce, i want to get rid of Unity completely
[22:24] <Sparrow__> wishe, if you use our package manager to install it will be fin on uninstall
[22:24] <scythefwd> last time seriously used linux, ntfs write wasa scary thing
[22:25] <Sparrow__> scythefwd, 1- yrs
[22:25] <Sparrow__> 10
[22:25] <Zalabas> ntfs? abandon the ships!
[22:25] <wishe> Sparrow__: you mean synaptic?
[22:25] <ReimuHakurei> wow, systemd-resolve is super broken... at least in lxd.
[22:25] <niebrazka> Hello
[22:25] <ReimuHakurei> it just gives up and times out.
[22:25] <Sparrow__> wishe, yes
[22:25] <ReimuHakurei> see: https://i.shoov.in/1494023134.txt
[22:25] <ReimuHakurei> any ideas?
[22:25] <scythefwd> i used it as a primary back in o2/o3
[22:25] <ReimuHakurei> this results in apt being broken...
[22:26] <dpg__> I soke too soon
[22:26] <dpg__> wishe: broken cpu? how so?
[22:26] <wishe> I tried to install lxde and it actually broke my system, i had to boot in recovery with rw permissions and manually edit lightdm.conf files to get a greeter running
[22:26] <wishe> gpu*** dpg__
[22:26] <Zalabas> hmm https://pastebin.com/VnyTL7pZ
[22:26] <Zalabas> that's Linux ;)
[22:26] <scythefwd> ok folks
[22:27] <dpg__> hm
[22:27] <scythefwd> peace and bacon grease
[22:27] <dpg__> why would BIOS work sometimes and not others?
[22:27] <wishe> What command is that?
[22:27] <wishe> Zalabas: ^^
[22:27] <Zalabas> fdisk -l
[22:27] <brotherBox> hi guys, after upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04, ubuntu no longer considers my Xorg.conf options in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/. any help?
[22:27] <Zalabas> well im looking to erradicate that serial number
[22:28] <vlt> Hello. Using ps or top another user is able to see the names of my processes running. Is there a way for them to read my environment variables?
[22:28] <Ben64> vlt: no
[22:29] <Seveas> Ben64: only root and you can do that
[22:29] <Seveas> err, s/Ben64/vlt/
[22:29] <Zalabas> vpn bro ™
[22:29] <vlt> Ben64, Seveas: Thanks.
[22:30] <wishe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24519752/ thats wierd, sda6 makes the partitions larger than my drive
[22:31] <dpg__> interesting, if I unseat and reseat the video card, it gets me to the BIOS stage, but no further. It just sits me at a blank screen (monitor with signal, just black)
[22:31] <dpg__> but if I reboot it, then nothing.
[22:31] <tgm4883> dpg__: is your video card plugged in?
[22:31] <tgm4883> dpg__: I had that happen once when I forgot to give it power
[22:31] <ycyclist> I'm trying to figure out the proper way to assign an addition to LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[22:32] <ycyclist> I only find it referenced in alternatives/fakeroot file.
[22:32] <Seveas> wishe: tardis drive? :) (or are you perhaps not aware that sda2 is a primary partition containing the logical partitions sda5 and sda6, so you should not add all those numbers up)
[22:32] <ycyclist> Which makes me wonder if I'm looking in the right place.
[22:32] <dpg__> tgm4883: how would bios come on screen without power?
[22:33] <wishe> Seveas: but why no sda 3 and 4?
[22:33] <brotherBox> hi guys, after upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04, ubuntu no longer considers my Xorg.conf options in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/. any help?
[22:33] <tgm4883> dpg__: fair point
[22:33] <ReimuHakurei> https://i.shoov.in/1494023596.txt anyone have any ideas why systemd-resolve is broken here?
[22:33] <Seveas> ycyclist: for which purpose? If it's for one application, just set it in the environment. Otherwise look at /etc/ld.so.conf*
[22:33] <Seveas> wishe: 1 through 4 are primary
[22:33] <wishe> Ah ok
[22:34] <wishe> Thanks Seveas
[22:35] <ycyclist> Seveas:  It is to compile tensorflow from source.
[22:35] <Bashing-om> dpg__: What releae ? And see what results booting to terminal Vice GUI . Rule out a GUI issue .
[22:35] <Seveas> ycyclist: environment it is.
[22:35] <Betlehem> yep
[22:35] <Betlehem> :-)
[22:35] <Seveas> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/your/custom/path"
[22:35] <Seveas> ./configure
[22:35] <Seveas> make
[22:35] <Seveas> make test
[22:35] <Betlehem> make salchichas
[22:35] <Seveas> sudo make me a sandwich
[22:36] <Betlehem> ./configure --with-ketchup --witn-mayonaise --enable-yaourt
[22:36] <dpg__> Bashing-om: release of which component? It will now boot to the opening HP Invent screen and just halt there.
[22:36] <Betlehem> make 400 coffees/sec
[22:36] <dpg__> but won't boot to this screen reliably.
[22:36] <dpg__> I'm afraid to plug-in the new video card when it comes, I don't want a faulty mobo or something frying the card.
[22:37] <brotherBox> hi guys, after upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04, ubuntu no longer considers my Xorg.conf options in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/. any help?
[22:37] <Betlehem> LANG=C TERM=vt100 ./autogen.sh && sleep 0 ; done
[22:38] <Betlehem> thats for weechat dev :)
[22:38] <Seveas> Betlehem: I think we've reached the end of life for this joke :)
[22:38] <Betlehem> Okay my PacketLords :3 && dpkg -configure --a --with-lifetime-2018
[22:38] <Betlehem> jk
[22:39] <ReimuHakurei> https://i.shoov.in/1494023596.txt anyone have any ideas why systemd-resolve is broken here?
[22:39] <ReimuHakurei> apt seems to be using systemd-resolve, and thus apt is 100% broken in any lxd containers...
[22:41] <Bashing-om> dpg__: Boot up a live environmnet to rule out an OS issue .
[22:42] <Seveas> ReimuHakurei: does 'dig @10.66.60.1 google.com' work in the container?
[22:42] <ReimuHakurei> let's find out...
[22:42] <dpg__> Can't. It won't even boot-up at all with a USB key in. I can't use the keyboard either because it won't boot with that dongle in either.
[22:42] <ReimuHakurei> nslookup works
[22:43] <ReimuHakurei> yes, dig works
[22:43] <dpg__> (wireless usb dongle)
[22:43] <ReimuHakurei> instantly
[22:43] <ReimuHakurei> https://i.shoov.in/1494024199.txt
[22:43] <ReimuHakurei> i also noticed that systemd-resolve seems to be broken on the host, too
[22:43] <ReimuHakurei> but apt works there, for some reason
[22:43] <brotherBox> hi guys, after upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04, ubuntu no longer considers my Xorg.conf options in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/. any help?
[22:44] <Seveas> ReimuHakurei: what does /etc/resolv.conf look like on the host and in the container?
[22:44] <ReimuHakurei> identical.
[22:44] <ReimuHakurei> https://i.shoov.in/1494024268.txt
[22:44] <Seveas> yes, but what's the content...
[22:45] <Seveas> take the 127.0.0.53 line out. If apt still doesn't work, it's not a systemd-resolved problem
[22:45] <ReimuHakurei> systemd-resolve google.com
[22:45] <ReimuHakurei> ^ this times out.
[22:45] <Seveas> if it is a systemd-resolved problem, hopefully someone else can help. I don't use that piece of junk, no idea how to troubleshoot it.
[22:45] <ReimuHakurei> ...how can i just completely remove systemd-resolve, then?
[22:46] <ReimuHakurei> oh, on the host looks like it works, just very slooowly
[22:46] <ReimuHakurei> https://i.shoov.in/1494024379.txt >10 seconds
[22:46] <Seveas> you can't remove it, but you can stop using it by updating /etc/resolv.conf not to include it
[22:47] <ReimuHakurei> root@testct:~# systemd-resolve google.com
[22:47] <ReimuHakurei> google.com: resolve call failed: Query timed out
[22:47] <ReimuHakurei> top-tier, production-ready software, eh?
[22:48] <rizonz> hi guys, when I add a script to /etc/init.d do I still need to run some command ?
[22:49] <Seveas> rizonz: yes, 'rm' to remove the file again. And then write a proper systemd unit file. Initscripts are obsolete.
[22:49] <Ben64> Seveas: heh.
[22:50] <rizonz> Seveas: that was not the question
[22:50] <Ben64> but it is the answer
[22:50] <rizonz> Ben64: there is no perfect way
[22:50] <rizonz> anyways
[22:50] <Ben64> ask about what you actually want to accomplish
[22:54] <rizonz> Ben64: what I said
[22:54] <Ben64> !xy | rizonz
[22:55] <rizonz> Ben64: wrong, I need an answer to the question I asked
[22:55] <Ben64> hmm, nope
[22:55] <rizonz> as you can do multiple things I thought
[22:56] <Seveas> yes, that's still possible as not everythong has transitioned away from obsolete initscripts. By far most things have though, and no new initscripts will be added.
[22:57] <Ben64> it's still best to ask about the actual issue, instead of your method to solve X
[22:57] <wedgie> should I write a systemd unit file for my 14.04 machine?
[22:57] <Seveas> wedgie: no.
[22:58] <nacc> wedgie: 14.04 uses upstart
[22:58] <wedgie> i'm quite aware. But everyone seems to be assuming that rizonz is doing something stupid for some reason.
[22:58] <rizonz> Ben64: I described my issue, there is an initscript, nothing more, and I want to add it there and wanted to know if I still need to run update-rc.d and such
[22:59] <Seveas> so you're just adding initscripts for the fun of it
[22:59] <Seveas> Or is there an actual reason you want that initscript?
[22:59] <nacc> rizonz: aiui, all the scripts in /etc/init.d once they do '. /lib/lsb/init-functions' jump into the systemd unit on ubuntu
[22:59] <Ben64> rizonz: that's not an issue, that's the supposed solution to a still undescribed issue
[22:59] <nacc> rizonz: presuming there is one, that is
[23:00] <nacc> rizonz: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[23:00] <nacc> rizonz: but yes, just writing an init-script never did anything
[23:00] <SailorMoon> hey guys! Quick Q! Whats the "Command" To check for Distribution updates?
[23:01] <SailorMoon> the one to upgrade from like 16.04 to 17.04
[23:01] <nacc> SailorMoon: do-release-upgrade
[23:01] <brotherBox> hi guys, after upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04, ubuntu no longer adopts my touchpad settings from /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/. any help?
[23:01] <nacc> SailorMoon: presuming you've configured your system from allowing only LTS upgrades to nont
[23:01] <Seveas> SailorMoon: that'll be 16.04 to 16.10. And then 16.10 to 17.04
[23:01] <nacc> SailorMoon: and yes, what Seveas said
[23:02] <Sparrow__> Im going to go boot ubuntu-Mate and check it out
[23:02] <nacc> brotherBox: i don't think that's where your local setting changes should have lived anyways?
[23:02] <SailorMoon> so theres no 16.04 to 17.04? :P
[23:02] <brotherBox> nacc: where else?
[23:02] <SailorMoon> Either way i assume its not going to work on my device lol
[23:02] <Seveas> SailorMoon: only in two steps, or with manual apt fiddling.
[23:03] <Ben64> SailorMoon: 16.04 is supported until 2021, while 17.04 loses support in Jan 2018
[23:03] <SailorMoon> couldnt i have added -p to the command or something to get the GUI version?
[23:03] <SailorMoon> (i dunno how to Cancel/Revert changes from the Terminal lol)
[23:03] <SailorMoon> CTRL+Z? CTRL+C?
[23:03] <Ben64> ctrl+c usually
[23:03] <SailorMoon> CTRL+Z = Kill, right?
[23:04]  * SailorMoon is a noob
[23:04] <Ben64> ctrl+z = stop
[23:04] <Ben64> like... puts the process in the background
[23:04] <Ben64> can resume it later
[23:05] <rizonz> nacc: testing multiple supported ones :)
[23:05] <brotherBox> nacc: where else?
[23:06] <billxtn> do all child process become zombie process a some point?
[23:06] <Ben64> no
[23:08] <billxtn> so what's the difference between a child process that exited normally and a child process that became zombie?
[23:08] <Jordan_U> billxtn: A process only becomes a zombie if it dies and its parent process failes to reap it. Most processes that spawn other processes are good at reaping them, or just exit and let their children be reparented by init, which reaps them promptly.
[23:08] <brotherBox> hi guys, after upgrading from 16.10 to 17.04, ubuntu no longer adopts my touchpad settings from /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/. any help?
[23:11] <billxtn> so if the parent is in an infinite loop and the child exits, does it become a zombie?
[23:12] <Jordan_U> billxtn: Yes. (With some additional caveats about signals and multi threaded processes).
[23:12] <Haled> which kernel is 17.10 likely to have (approximately)?
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Haled: #ubuntu+1 for 17.10 questions.
[23:13] <Haled> Jordan_U, thanks
[23:13] <nacc> brotherBox: i meant /usr/share is for package owned files, your files probably should go in /usr/local or so
[23:16] <brotherBox> nacc: there is nothing for X in /usr/local and man xorg.conf.d doesnt list /usr/local as a directory for xorg confs
[23:17] <Jordan_U> brotherBox: That might be due to a switch from synaptics to libinput (though I haven't been following when Ubuntu made the switch by default, or if they even have yet).
[23:18] <brotherBox> Jordan_U: who could tell me more about this? should i just keep asking?
[23:23] <nacc> Jordan_U: i don't think it's switched by default, but IME everyone should use libinput.
[23:23] <nacc> brotherBox: you should be able to tell from the x log if synaptics or libinput is being used
[23:24] <brotherBox> >Using input driver 'synaptics' for 'ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad'
[23:24] <brotherBox> yes it seems like im using synaptics
[23:24] <nacc> brotherBox: ah sorry, i guess x does violate that normal placement
[23:24] <nacc> brotherBox: do you see in the log if it's sourcing your local file?
[23:25] <brotherBox> my local file? i don't even know the location where i would put a local file in; in my understanding, /usr/share is the global location for Xorg confs
[23:25] <nacc> brotherBox: you said you made some change in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ?
[23:26] <brotherBox> yes, thats true
[23:26] <nacc> brotherBox: so i think you've misread the manpage a bit
[23:26] <brotherBox> nacc: though didnt you discourage me working on that directory?
[23:26] <nacc> brotherBox: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is for the vendor (ubuntu) supplied configuration
[23:26] <nacc> brotherBox: your local changes should go in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[23:27] <nacc> brotherBox: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ is "reserved  for system use"
[23:27] <nacc> brotherBox: but regardless of my discouragement, you made some change there before, and I'm asking if the log indicates it's opening that file that has your change in it
[23:28] <brotherBox> hm alright. i have googled the issue before and have found topics on ubuntuforums about this issue  and they recommend a certain xorg.conf; should i try to put a file with that entry into /ec/X11/... ?
[23:28] <nacc> brotherBox: not sure i understand .. 'certain xorg.conf'?
[23:28] <nacc> brotherBox: what is your actual issue?
[23:28] <billxtn> Jordan_U: thanks
[23:30] <brotherBox> nacc: i shall explain. i used ubuntu 16.04 (or 16.10?) and upgraded to 17.04. to configure the touchpad on this computer i put files into /usr/share/... and after the upgrade, i suspect my configs were overwritten or removed
[23:30] <brotherBox> the changes i made were twofold and if you want we can talk about the details, but first i would like some way to confirm that my changes are actually being read from /etc/X11/...
[23:30] <Ben64> well if they were overwritten or removed, then that would explain why they don't work...
[23:31] <Ben64> have you checked to see if that is the case
[23:31] <Jordan_U> billxtn: You're welcome.
[23:31] <brotherBox> Ben64: i dont remember exactly what i called the conf file where i made the change in /usr/share
[23:32] <brotherBox> now there is only one file that appears to have been changed and it was by me after the upgrade
[23:34] <sidetracking> i'd like to interject for a moment
[23:34] <sidetracking> what you're referring to linux is actually gan00 slash linux
[23:35] <nacc> sidetracking: stop it
[23:35] <nacc> sidetracking: you were offtopic earlier today, and you're doing it again.
[23:35] <sidetracking> shit my bad
[23:35] <sidetracking> i thought this was -offtopic
[23:35] <sidetracking> i stay quiet now ._____.
[23:36] <nacc> brotherBox: so you don't know how to verify if your local configuration is changed or not?
[23:37] <nacc> brotherBox: that is, you don't know what you changed before?
[23:37] <Sparrow__> Up arrow in a terminal has brought back commands I had forgotten
[23:38] <brotherBox> nacc: i dont know how to be sure about it, yes. there is only one file in there that containes the key that im changing
[23:38] <iio7> Is there a some PPA to get FFMPEG with NVENC support without having to compile manually?
[23:39] <Sparrow__> !ppa
[23:39] <Sparrow__> !find ffmpeg
[23:40] <Sparrow__> !find nvenc
[23:40] <sidetracking> !help
[23:41] <sidetracking> !patience
[23:42] <sirru5h> Howdy everyone
[23:42] <sidetracking> hello friend
[23:43] <brotherBox> nacc: besides, to re-load the Xorg config, can i do lightdm restart as well or do i physically need to reboot?
[23:43] <sirru5h> I'm doing alright working on getting bluetooth to work but not holding out much hope
[23:53] <PeterM12121> Hi guys! Just updated my server with Ubuntu server but it won't startup anymore.. What are the first steps now? It's in rescue mode (ovh) now.
[23:53] <Betlehem> in 5 4 3 2 1
[23:54] <Betlehem> uh.. what the problem is
[23:54] <Betlehem> dont boot can be 1/2 billions circunstances
[23:54] <ginseng0> Does anyone know a way to control volume when using the i3 desktop window manager?
[23:54] <Betlehem> alsa
[23:54] <PeterM12121> Ehhh but yeah.. What now? Haha
[23:54] <Betlehem> alsamixer, bro.
[23:54] <brotherBox> PeterM12121: you may want to read logs if they're available
[23:54] <nacc> brotherBox: you need to restart X (not just your dm)
[23:55] <PeterM12121> Hmm, in wich folder can they be found?
[23:55] <Betlehem> PeterM12121: what problem is.. port? ;P
[23:55] <PeterM12121> Do I need to mount a drive in rescue mode?
[23:55] <brotherBox> PeterM12121: /var/logs, if that can be mounted
[23:55] <Betlehem> i have a ovh vps too
[23:55] <brotherBox> err, /var/log
[23:55] <Betlehem> the problem was big .. buts its solved :P
[23:55] <Betlehem> yeah mount /dev/vda? /nnt
[23:56] <Betlehem> */mnt
[23:56] <Betlehem> then chroot /mnt
[23:56] <PeterM12121> Thanks, ill have a look
[23:56] <Betlehem> but if the rescue mode works i would check if its sshd
[23:56] <Betlehem> looks like the firewall is blocking access
[23:57] <brotherBox> nacc: every result i find about that says that restarting lightdm is okay; how can i restart X? (without sending SIGKILL)
[23:57] <Betlehem> systemctl restart lightdm
[23:58] <Betlehem> :) sudo killall X ; cintrl + shift + bckspace
[23:59] <ginseng0> thanks for the advice on alsamixer. Is there a more convenient way to put a volume control in the i3 WM tray, or something similar?
[23:59] <Betlehem> i have no idea.. to minimalist
[23:59] <Betlehem> too/ for me
[23:59] <brotherBox> i'd actually be interested in that as well ginseng0, having a solution just with the mouse would be great
[23:59] <ginseng0> haha
[23:59] <Betlehem> i used iut a bit