[00:00] <PeterM12121> root@rescue:~# mount /dev/vda mount: can't find /dev/vda in /etc/fstab
[00:00] <PeterM12121> ehh
[00:00] <Betlehem> fdisk -l
[00:00] <PeterM12121> For me?
[00:00] <Betlehem> yes pet
[00:00] <PeterM12121>   /dev/sda1
[00:00] <PeterM12121> 2 and 3
[00:01] <PeterM12121> ah wait, there's more.
[00:01] <Betlehem> my vpn is vda.. ok sda bigger 1
[00:01] <Betlehem> i see a system failure
[00:01] <Betlehem> a few minutes ago
[00:01] <PeterM12121> there is also /dev/sdc2
[00:01] <Betlehem> gross while ssh'ng tunneling the vps
[00:01] <Betlehem> check what one is the biggest
[00:02] <PeterM12121>  /dev/sdc3 is the same as /dev/sda3
[00:02] <PeterM12121> But it's the sda3 one right?
[00:02] <Betlehem> genius conclusion
[00:02] <PeterM12121> Hehe
[00:03] <zealsham_> how do i get started with ubuntu server and what server tech comes with it, nignix or apache?
[00:03] <Betlehem> hmmm no idea
[00:03] <PeterM12121>  root@rescue:~# mount /dev/sda3 mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab
[00:03] <PeterM12121> .. :c
[00:03] <Betlehem>     | quit     │ adamg
[00:04] <Betlehem>             │
[00:04] <Betlehem>     | quit     │ adamg
[00:04] <brotherBox> PeterM12121: can you try dmesg?
[00:04] <Betlehem>             │
[00:04] <Betlehem> ok damn it
[00:04] <Betlehem> its vda for me and theres onle 1
[00:04] <PeterM12121> hmm
[00:04] <brotherBox> because that lists kernel messages and if there was a mount error or something like that it may be in there
[00:04] <Betlehem> is vps or dedi
[00:04] <PeterM12121> The dmesg command does work
[00:04] <Betlehem> killall5
[00:04] <PeterM12121> I'll have a look. Dedi
[00:04] <Betlehem> ahhh
[00:04] <Betlehem> dont use killall5
[00:05] <Betlehem> it kills runlevel 3
[00:05] <Betlehem> works on a hurry but
[00:05] <zealsham_> any help
[00:05] <brotherBox> zealsham_: sorry, i know nothing about ubuntu servers. in general though, you can probably install whatever server you like on them
[00:09] <Betlehem> worked for me
[00:09] <Betlehem> 0.0
[00:11] <Betlehem> thos ejedis
[00:12] <Betlehem> anon : i told u dunt touch mah puppy.. u do it i'll smash 6000000000000 hammers of god in your face
[00:12] <Betlehem> u r advaised :OP
[00:12] <PeterM12121> root@rescue:~# mount /dev/sda3 mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab
[00:13] <PeterM12121> Still can't mount..
[00:13] <wish^> Is it only Unity that uses compiz?
[00:13] <brotherBox> PeterM12121: do you have curl available? can you post data to a bin?
[00:14] <PeterM12121> Sorry, how does curl work? Hehe
[00:14] <PeterM12121> I'm in rescue mode from OVH right now
[00:15] <Betlehem> ~o\/o~
[00:16] <GrandPa-G> In the past few days, my ll (alias) command I normally use has now become a command not found. I am on 16.04 and bash shell. If I go into sudo, it works. I have made a few changes but nothing major. How do I get it back?
[00:17] <GrandPa-G> I am accessing via ssh
[00:18] <Betlehem> welcome to Ubuntu FC Paralimpic
[00:18] <GrandPa-G> It works correctly from gui in a terminal session. What did I do to ssh?
[00:20] <pavlos> GrandPa-G: .bashrc is not sourced upon ssh. source it in .bash_profile
[00:22] <GrandPa-G> pavlos: excuse my ignorance, exactly how do I "source" it? source $HOME/.bashrc
[00:22] <PeterM12121>  root@rescue:~# sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt mount: /dev/sda is already mounted or /mnt busy
[00:22] <pavlos> GrandPa-G: yes, create a .bash_profile and . ~/.bashrc
[00:22] <PeterM12121> But it's not in /mt ..
[00:23] <GrandPa-G> pavlos:interesting. I have another system that is set up almost the same and it doesn't even have a .bash_profile and yet it works. How?
[00:24] <PeterM12121> Got it
[00:24] <Betlehem> k.
[00:24] <shadows_> %v
[00:24] <Betlehem> By Tomahawk 2017
[00:24] <pavlos> GrandPa-G: maybe there is a ~/.profile which has code to source ~/.bashrc
[00:25] <GrandPa-G> pavlos: is there a default system wide .bash_profile like in etc? I am looking to see what the difference is.
[00:27] <pavlos> GrandPa-G: there should be system wide files in /etc/skel/ (I have a .profile and a .barhrc  16.04
[00:27] <GrandPa-G> pavlos:I see what  happened. I install some mysql stuff and it created a ~/.bash_profile where there was none before. I removed it and it now works.
[00:27] <GrandPa-G> pavlos:so I must now be picking up the system default, which is what I want. I will deal with the mysql stuff another way. Thanks for the help.
[00:28] <pavlos> GrandPa-G: you can add source ~/.bashrc in there (like you wrote) and keep the file if you want
[00:28] <GrandPa-G> pavlos:I realize that but I think the mysql stuff didn't work anyway.
[00:29] <pavlos> GrandPa-G: ok
[00:34] <FrogCast> how do you revert or install an older version of qt? code compiled with 5.7 will not work  on my remote server
[00:43] <[BX]of[Suicide]> ;)
[00:45] <darkblue_b> I have an Ubuntu 1404 I have used on the desktop for a long while.. just now, a series of updates came in, which I accepted.. then right away, another series of updates appeared.. I just accepted.. it was BASH and LOGIN.. how do I check what those updates did ?
[00:45] <oerheks> FrogCast, old but still valid https://harishnavnit.wordpress.com/2014/03/24/handling-multiple-versions-of-qt/
[00:46] <FrogCast> !cookie | oerheks
[00:46] <fashbowlbasherso> hi darkblue,
[00:46] <fashbowlbasherso> the history.log file in /var/apt might have what you need-
[00:47] <fashbowlbasherso> sry
[00:47] <darkblue_b> no such dir
[00:47] <darkblue_b> I see a /var/cache/apt
[00:47] <fashbowlbasherso> test
[00:47] <fashbowlbasherso> sorry /var/log/apt/
[00:48] <darkblue_b> oh ah - looking
[00:48] <fashbowlbasherso> tried to start message with / - i haven't irc'ed in a while : )
[00:48] <[BX]of[Suicide]> yes my masterm :)
[00:48] <fashbowlbasherso> there should be a history.log file there
[00:48] <ChicoRodeo> :-D
[00:48] <darkblue_b> Upgrade: bash:amd64 (4.3-7ubuntu1.5, 4.3-7ubuntu1.6), passwd:amd64 (4.1.5.1-1ubuntu9.2, 4.1.5.1-1ubuntu9.4), login:amd64 (4.1.5.1-1ubuntu9.2, 4.1.5.1-1ubuntu9.4)
[00:49] <Liqu\d> do you know where i cand find a list of games for ubuntu that work also on windows same kit?
[00:49] <darkblue_b> that looks 'official' and all.. but you can understand my concern.. its a good time to take a minute and check
[00:50] <darkblue_b> so - what would I do next, to find out more about those, on this machine?
[00:50] <oerheks> looks valid http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bash for trusty
[00:50] <fashbowlbasherso> Liquid, I think there's a website called SteamDB that might be able to get you what you need
[00:50] <Liqu\d> thx fashbowlbasherso
[00:51] <Bashing-om> !info bash
[00:52] <darkblue_b> right - I am asking, how would I check THOSE new updates
[00:52] <darkblue_b> here on this machine.. I suppose, matching a md5 and some receipt somewhere?
[00:52] <oerheks> darkblue_b, why? those updates come through a secure channel
[00:53] <darkblue_b> why check the contents of a patch to login and bash ?
[00:54] <darkblue_b> I dont see why you would tell anyone not to..
[00:54] <darkblue_b> you understand that a patched bash could hide almost anything, right?
[00:54] <fashbasherso> bad_internet.exe
[00:57] <darkblue_b> oh - pardon.. passwd, bash and login
[00:57] <computeruser> GLib-GObject-WARNING **: g_object_set_valist: object class 'GeglConfig' has no property named 'cache-size'
[00:57] <computeruser> anyone know anything about this?
[00:58] <computeruser> starting gimp for the first time I get this on ubuntu 17.04 mate
[00:58] <oerheks> darkblue_b, i see no bash update in this cve https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3276-1/
[00:59] <cereal> so I just got myself a new computer and it has a z270 chipset. Using the front panel for headphones and when I plug them in, I get a moment of audio before its cut off and goes from speaker mode to headphone mode (watching it via the alsamixer, sound panel, etc). However...I have no idea what to look for so suggestions? So far my google-fu is directing me more towards issues with no audio at all.
[01:00] <darkblue_b> ah that is recent
[01:00] <darkblue_b> ok .. well maybe thats well and good enough for now.. I am not actually excited about crawling through receipts and MD5s, but  login+passwd+bash did jump out for me
[01:01] <oerheks> darkblue_b, thank you for asking, these urls are a way to check updates, if you *need* to
[01:02] <darkblue_b> and, it came in a second round, after I accetpted the first round
[01:02] <darkblue_b> my main server for work is 1404, and I do care.. so yes.. I do need to
[01:03] <darkblue_b> when heartbleed appeared, I turned the machine off for several days!
[01:03] <darkblue_b> no php.. blah blah.. anyway, tx
[01:03] <darkblue_b> thx
[01:04] <oerheks> have fun!
[01:04] <darkblue_b> :-)
[01:12] <pd1> is there a way to detect if a c++ program is started from a desktop based terminal?
[01:13] <pd1> in ubuntu 14.04?
[01:16] <fashbasherso> not too sure.
[01:16] <Betlehem> noted.
[01:17] <CoderEurope> Anyone know where I can get some decent lappy stickers ? | These are bland: http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/stickers/
[01:18] <fashbasherso> redbubble, zazzle, hackerstickers, umm... there's a few others
[01:23] <hehehe> hi
[01:24] <hehehe> I have  upgraded win on dual boot and it now loads windows boot manager instead of grub, I did try to force it to load grub by pointing to it, yet to work
[01:24] <hehehe> any ideas what can be done
[01:24] <Bashing-om> !grub | hehehe
[01:25] <wish^> Is there some way to turn off bluetooth permanently on my ubuntu laptop?
[01:26] <hehehe> bash it was 16.04
[01:26] <fashbasherso> you can add it your rfkill list
[01:27] <hehehe> so probably grun 2
[01:28] <wish^> fashbasherso, I did actually try that but it did not work it seems
[01:31] <fashbasherso> wish, have you looked at the rc.local file?
[01:32] <fashbasherso> also, try:
[01:32] <YankDownUnder> If you wish to turn off bluetooth, you can do: sudo systemctl disable bluetooth
[01:32] <fashbasherso> open this file with nano or gedit or whatever: /etc/init/bluetooth.override
[01:32] <fashbasherso> enter in [manual] on line 1, then save and exit
[01:33] <fashbasherso> you _should_ be good from there
[01:34] <fashbasherso> wish^, let me know if that helps
[01:39] <wish^> Did not work adding it to that file
[01:40] <fashbasherso> and by [manual] i mean just write the word manual and nothing else - i don't know how much exp you have w. linux but [ ] means this and nothing else. : )
[01:44] <daPhipz> How can you resize a LVM? I have Ubuntu installed on my HDD, all in one big LVM partition. Now, I want to add another distro on the same HDD. How is it possible to create a completely new partition, when the LVM uses the whole drive at the moment?
[01:44] <fashbasherso> wish, here's a reference if I'm confusing the fuck out of you: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326395
[01:46] <jamesd> daPhipz: lots of lvm tutorials and howto's on the internet just google.
[01:55] <computeruser> sudo find / -name "GeglConfig"
[01:55] <computeruser> sudo find / -name "GeglConfig"
[01:55] <computeruser> sorry
[01:56] <computeruser> find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
[01:56] <computeruser> why that
[02:07] <Phanes> computeruser, type `id`
[02:08] <Phanes> computeruser, also type `ls -al /run/user/1000/gvfs`
[02:09] <pd1> computeruser: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/77453/why-cannot-find-read-run-user-1000-gvfs-even-though-it-is-running-as-root
[02:14] <jovi_> hi
[02:15] <fashbasherso> hey hey
[02:17] <noobuntu> how many people here use irssi
[02:18] <YankDownUnder> noobuntu, There is a #irssi channel...
[02:18] <noobuntu> true, thanks
[02:20] <fashbasherso> haha. dude bounced.
[02:38] <santy> hi
[02:39] <santy> alguno habla español?
[02:39] <dnkek> muchos juevos
[02:39] <Bashing-om> !es | santy
[02:39] <santy>  /join #ubuntu-es
[02:40] <dnkek> MAS JUEVOS
[02:43] <santy> hi
[02:43] <santy> hello
[02:44] <N3LRX> more eggs?
[02:44] <N3LRX> balls?
[02:44] <N3LRX> depending on your intended dialect.
[02:51] <Betlehem> very extremed
[02:52] <Betlehem> dead, forever.
[03:00] <juanonymous> Detected behavior from 203.87.133.146 consistent with that of a mail server. <- what does this means?
[03:00] <a_ryan> what it says
[03:01] <jamesd> smtp ports are open...
[03:01] <jamesd> possibly
[03:06] <FrogCast> i am trying to build imagemagic statically so I can toss and run it on a remote server (which doesnt have gcc, and which i am not an admin). I am trying right now... what I see is a bunch of .lo files, which says to me I probably am not doing this right.
[03:07] <FrogCast> What steps do I need to do with ./configure and make in order to compile this program statically?
[03:10] <gegen> hi
[03:10] <vns> hi
[03:10] <Betlehem> aloha
[03:10] <Betlehem> dinasty ubuntu-nin restaurant
[03:10] <gegen> i got some problem with my ubuntu. i can write in 30min
[03:10] <Betlehem> ok
[03:16] <Betlehem> :=)
[03:27] <gegen> hey :D
[03:28] <gegen> hello :)
[03:30] <gegen> sb out there?
[03:30] <Bashing-om> !ask | gegen
[03:33] <implite> !patience
[03:33] <gegen> i got problems with my wifi: if i start my pc, it works fine. after a while i cant use the internet anymore. i seems to be connected to the rounter but no internet. if i click to reconnect to wifi, i get internet again.
[03:34] <gegen> this happens maybe all 2 minutes
[03:36] <YankDownUnder> gegen, If you set the wifi to use a static IP address, does the problem persist?
[03:36] <gegen> it is set to static ip. i had it on dhcp before but i had the same problem
[03:37] <YankDownUnder> gegen, is it a Realtek chipset?
[03:37] <gegen> yes
[03:38] <YankDownUnder> gegen, And 17.04?
[03:38] <gegen> 16.04lts
[03:38] <implite> I think it could that he might be using the wrong firmware for his wifi card
[03:38] <YankDownUnder> gegen, Ah...sorry...jumped the gun...
[03:39] <implite> just a guess
[03:39] <gegen> i didnt changed anything. i'm a noob. how can i change the drivers?
[03:40] <gegen> i just started it again. at first it worked fine. now it hangs again
[03:40] <YankDownUnder> gegen, You changed the wifi to use static IP, right? Something to look at would be /etc/network/interfaces - see if the actual connection is setup for static in that file...could you look?
[03:40] <gegen> dns_probe_not_finished now
[03:41] <gegen> but it is connected to wifi
[03:42] <gegen> in the etc/network/interfaces is only loopback
[03:42] <gegen> auto lo and ifance lo inet loopback
[03:42] <YankDownUnder> gegen, Are you in the terminal looking at this?
[03:42] <amicrawler> how do i get my software back that i bought in 14.04 on 17.04
[03:42] <gegen> sudo nano etc...
[03:43] <YankDownUnder> gegen, So is that "Yes, I am in the terminal" or something else...?
[03:43] <gegen> yes in terminal
[03:44] <gegen> i set static ip over the taskbar. is seems to work. i always get the right ip and i can connect with ssh or ftp (only when the internet bug doesnt appear)
[03:45] <YankDownUnder> gegen, Care to experiment and see if this resolves your issue?
[03:45] <selsper_> trying to get my graphics card working
[03:45] <selsper_> i got this
[03:45] <selsper_> https://pastebin.com/7Wf08rcQ
[03:46] <gegen> router is set to start dhcp from 192.168.0.50. my static ip is 192.168.0.77
[03:46] <gegen> YankDownUnder, ok
[03:46] <amicrawler> how do i get my software back that i bought in 14.04 on 17.04
[03:47] <YankDownUnder> gegen, In the terminal, type: ifconfig [03:48] <gegen> YankDownUnder, no its more complex: wlxa0f... do you need the whole name?
[03:48] <Bashing-om> selsper_: To see graohic's info ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[03:49] <YankDownUnder> gegen, If you can do a "pastbinit" of the output of "ifconfig" that would be lovely...
[03:49] <gegen> YankDownUnder, wlxa0f3c107fa2f
[03:49] <YankDownUnder> !pastbinit | gegen
[03:50] <YankDownUnder> Argh...misspelling...
[03:50] <YankDownUnder> !pastebinit
[03:51] <gegen> YankDownUnder, i started the pc ~7min before. internet hangs up b4 ~5min. the site just reloaded. it seems that i fixes itself after a time. but i think it will hang up in a few mins again
[03:52] <gegen> !pastepinit
[03:52] <implite> bin
[03:52] <implite> not pin
[03:52] <gegen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24521101/
[03:52] <YankDownUnder> gegen, Here's a link to take a look at --> this would be fore ensuring a static ip, system wide...eh? : http://www.configserverfirewall.com/ubuntu-linux/ubuntu-set-static-ip-address/
[03:54] <YankDownUnder> gegen, Testen Sie das Sehen Sie, wenn das Netzwerk das Netzwerk macht.
[03:55] <virtualriot> Hi Sidney
[03:55] <virtualriot> sydney_untangle
[03:58] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: Any clue why systemd would use the MAC in the WIFI ID "wlxa0f3c107fa2f" ? Is there a hint here ?
[03:58] <YankDownUnder> Bashing-om, Funny you should ask that - because I'm trying to figure THAT strange bit out right now...hmm... :)
[03:59] <YankDownUnder> Can't blame aliens or Trump.
[03:59] <iwakuralain> hi um
[03:59] <gegen> YankDownUnder, do i need "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4"?
[03:59] <iwakuralain> I installed cloudron and it seems like it added iptables rules to block all ports it's not using and I can't figure out how to allow them again
[04:00] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: My thoughts too ----- Hummmm . Rest assured I sure do not know .
[04:00] <implite> that would help you but thats not going to fix your problem gegen
[04:01] <YankDownUnder> gegen, You can use the Google DNS servers (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4) but you'd want to have the IP of your router FIRST...everything else would be after that...especially if you're using a different set of DNS servers...(you can still tack on the Google DNS servers at the end...if you so desire)
[04:09] <gegen> YankDownUnder, it doesnt work. "ping -c 4 google.com" -> unknown host.
[04:11] <YankDownUnder> gegen, Assuming you've got a terminal open, can you type: sudo ifconfig | pastebinit => so I can see, please?
[04:11] <gegen> YankDownUnder, i cant change wifi settings anymore in taskbar. it says "device not managed"
[04:11] <YankDownUnder> gegen, Because you've statically set the IP without using the network manager...
[04:12] <gegen> YankDownUnder, can i send a photo maybe? i cant paste it without ssh :D
[04:12] <gegen> YankDownUnder, or internet
[04:12] <YankDownUnder> gegen, whichever you can
[04:14] <gegen> YankDownUnder, https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Byk4GWvlHo7bVWk5RlhvbXZJZDA
[04:16] <gegen> YankDownUnder, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byk4GWvlHo7bU1EyS0hNYnNXSG8/view?usp=sharing
[04:17] <gegen> YankDownUnder, and thats the settings on windows with dhcp https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byk4GWvlHo7bTUQxRjJnQnZCOE0/view?usp=sharing
[04:19] <YankDownUnder> gegen, Far out...right...what is in the listing when you type: ifconfig -s ==> the interface names...?
[04:20] <gegen> YankDownUnder, first one is lo, second one is wlxa0....
[04:20] <pd1> was zur hoelle is dat fuern interface name???
[04:20] <gegen> can i change the interface name?
[04:20] <gegen> :D
[04:20] <pd1> can you "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[04:21] <pd1> you can, but its not important, and takes some time messing around with udev
[04:21] <gegen> i got the same wifi stick twice. i could try the other one too :d
[04:21] <YankDownUnder> gegen, I'm a bit blown away over the fact that the wlan is NOT given a simple name...
[04:22] <gegen> cat ... -> nameserver 8.8.8.8, nameserver 8.8.4.4
[04:22] <gegen> i installed ubuntu yesterday
[04:22] <pd1> gegen: 'ifup wlxa......' will bring the static config up?
[04:23] <gegen> removed bloat, installed chrome and pipelight
[04:23] <gegen> ifup: interface wl... already configured
[04:24] <YankDownUnder> gegen, What happens when you type: ifup wlan0 --> ?
[04:24] <gegen> unknown interface wlan0
[04:25] <YankDownUnder> gegen, ifup wlan1 --> ?
[04:25] <gegen> same
[04:25] <pd1> ifdown wlx..... && ifup wlx..... ?
[04:26] <gegen> waaaiiittt
[04:26] <gegen> no internet
[04:26] <gegen> but ifconfig changed
[04:26] <YankDownUnder> gegen, Far out...right oh...WELL, you can remove (or quote out) what you've put into the /etc/network/interfaces -> restart the network (sudo systemctl restart network) -> that at least will give you your net back...
[04:26] <pd1> photo!
[04:26] <gegen> inet adresse is correct now
[04:27] <gegen> i think it tries to do all networking through lo instead of wlxa...
[04:27] <gegen> because the rxbytes and txbytes are changing
[04:27] <pd1> sudo route  ---- photo
[04:28] <pd1> but this dongle is a wifi dongle, right?
[04:28] <pd1> missing the wpa-stuff in the static config
[04:29] <gegen> usb wlan dongle
[04:30] <gegen> ifdown wlxa -> it disappears in ifconfig -> ifup wlxa -> takes ~20sec -> its back again
[04:30] <Llynix> Was upgrading to ubuntu 16.04 when it appears the upgrader has problems.  It is hanging at configuring libudev1, the last message in the terminal is Found memtest86+ image and mount is at 100% cpu.  Any suggestions?
[04:31] <gegen> route -> empty table, command not terminating / takes more then 10s
[04:33] <gegen> i just kept auto wlxa... and iface wlxa.. inet dhcp -> now when i ifdown -> some output and i can manage it over taskbar again
[04:33] <pd1> gegen: can you change your static config in /etc/network/interfaces https://linuxconfig.org/setup-wireless-interface-with-wpa-and-wpa2-on-ubuntu like here, just addin the wpa things. or is the wifi network open, but i assume you are in germany so if it is you are fucked anyways :P
[04:34] <pd1> would be f**** with an open wifi ;)
[04:34] <Betlehem> ;-)
[04:36] <gegen> when i set it to dhcp like i said, when i type ifdown and ifup -> dhcpdiscover on wlxa.. to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval... repeating
[04:36] <Zalabas> 470!1
[04:37] <Zalabas> that does count?
[04:39] <pd1> gegen: i mean with the static config + wpa-ssid +wps-psk
[04:39] <gegen> im on it
[04:40] <gegen> it is "different"
[04:41] <gegen> dhcp works
[04:41] <gegen> do i really have to type in the wifi key into wpa-psk? is that safe?
[04:42] <Zalabas> ikr
[04:43] <pd1> it is safe
[04:44] <gegen> the order doesnt matter in etc/network/interfaces? i dont need to indent address, netmask etc?
[04:47] <gegen> something is fucked up
[04:47] <pd1> i intent it, dont knwo if its neccessary
[04:48] <gegen> i set it to static ip 192.168.0.77, restarted service. it connects to 192.168.0.67 and network works. i still can ssh to 192.168.0.77. router shows that nowthing is connected to this ip but i can still connect
[04:49] <pd1> you router shows ip's that he did not give out?
[04:50] <gegen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24521427/
[04:50] <gegen> my router shows that "UbuntuPC" is connected to "192.168.0.67". nothing is connected to 192.168.0.77
[04:51] <pd1> can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[04:51] <gegen> so how the hell can i ssh to 192.168.0.77
[04:51] <gegen> ping works
[04:51] <pd1> then the machine is online!
[04:52] <jamesd> is 192.168.0.77  staticly config?   perhaps the router only tracks  dhcp requests
[04:52] <gegen> yes but now at 192.168.0.77
[04:52] <gegen> i think
[04:52] <gegen> you know how routing works?
[04:52] <gegen> i think my pc remembered the mac address and connects to the mac address
[04:52] <pd1> paste us the output of 'sudo route' and wait for more than 10 secs
[04:52] <pd1> gegen: quite sure - no
[04:54] <gegen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24521436/
[04:54] <gegen> now it responds instantly
[04:54] <pd1> and the output of 'netstat -apn'
[04:55] <gegen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24521445/
[04:56] <pd1> well, well, well
[04:56] <pd1> somehow the 192.168.0.77 address is up too on the machine
[04:56] <gegen> ftp to .77 works aswell
[04:56] <pd1> can you restart the box?
[04:56] <pd1> how about ssh or ftp to 67?
[04:58] <gegen> restarted -> ifconfig says im on .77 now. seems to work
[04:59] <gegen> ping to .67 doesnt work. seems to work now
[05:00] <gegen> wait - no. only local network. no internet
[05:00] <pd1> ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[05:01] <gegen> works
[05:01] <pd1> cat /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:01] <gegen> firefox or chrome -> dns probe finished bad config
[05:01] <gegen> empty, only comments
[05:02] <pd1> sudo echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8 >> /etc/resolv.conf"
[05:02] <pd1> does that solve the issue?
[05:02] <pd1> how can it :D sudo echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[05:04] <gegen> ok resolv.conf has nameserver 8.8.8.8 now but... :D
[05:05] <pd1> but... it will be lost after restart: option1. never ever restart again option2. another hour finding out why the nameserver from the static config is not in the filde option3. make the file readonly
[05:05] <gegen> i changed sth in etc network interfaces. now i get 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in resolv.conf
[05:06] <pd1> and everything works?
[05:06] <gegen> seems to work
[05:06] <pd1> didn't expect option2 to be solved that fast :D
[05:06] <gegen> had no "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4"
[05:07] <gegen> question 1) will i get the same back as b4, that i will disconnect after 2 min?
[05:07] <gegen> question 2) do i have all necessary things in /etc/networks/interface
[05:08] <pd1> i do not knwo the interfaces fille right now. and the issue wasn't "does not connect" ? :P
[05:08] <pd1> but it should not disconnect after 2 minutes
[05:08] <gegen> no :D
[05:09] <gegen> at the beginning i set static ip over the taskbar
[05:09] <gegen> with ubuntus ui etc
[05:09] <gegen> i had internet for 2 min
[05:09] <pd1> 17.04?
[05:09] <gegen> 16.04 lts
[05:09] <pd1> :o
[05:09] <gegen> it was lost then
[05:09] <pd1> just wait a few minutes
[05:09] <gegen> i had to reconnect to wifi
[05:09] <gegen> then it was there again
[05:10] <pd1> at least you have eliminated the networkmanager from the equasion
[05:10] <gegen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24521490/
[05:10] <gegen> thats my etc network interfaces now
[05:10] <pd1> looks ok
[05:11] <pd1> if you just need internet there is no need for fancy things
[05:11] <pd1> the system is fully updated?
[05:12] <pd1> i have naming issues for ethernet cards here 16.04 when the systems are not fully updated
[05:12] <pd1> and that name my friend is not normal
[05:15] <gegen> i did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[05:15] <gegen> btw. not good
[05:16] <gegen> seems to be the same issue
[05:16] <pd1> so still have internet? 2 minutes should be over...
[05:16] <pd1> :/
[05:16] <gegen> internet is not working anymore :D
[05:16] <pd1> ifdown ...... ifup .....
[05:16] <gegen> till i disconnect and connect again
[05:16] <pd1> and its back there?
[05:16] <gegen> thats the problem
[05:16] <gegen> then i get it again for 2 mins
[05:17] <pd1> thats the only device having problems?
[05:17] <pd1> phone/tablet/laptops/whatever work constantly?
[05:17] <gegen> pc over lan works constantly
[05:18] <gegen> phone over wifi... not always
[05:18] <pd1> how far away are you from the wifi router?
[05:18] <gegen> i have to reconnect there too sometimes
[05:18] <pd1> just to make sure...
[05:18] <gegen> 5m
[05:19] <gegen> you think its the router?
[05:21] <pd1> test that like this: make the phone a wifi hotspot and connect to that with the 77 machine by commenting out the static config, replacing it with a dhcp config
[05:21] <chus> hola
[05:22] <pd1> actually the /etc/network/interfaces config is not needed since the proplem persists and you could do the static config in the networkmanager again ;)
[05:23] <pd1> gegen: https://askubuntu.com/questions/457729/ubuntu-14-04-wireless-constantly-disconnects this might help
[05:25] <gegen> why is linux so complicated :D
[05:26] <pd1> because its a freakish randgruppen thing on the consumer market and manufacture "insert name here"  gives a damn about 7 people using linux with his hardware so some nerd in basement needs to write a driver in his free time
[05:26] <Snowie> Hi all. I just reinstalled 16.04.2 but left 3 home directories in place. I'm not trying to add the users back with instructions here http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/681 but as you can see, the blank user i created on the reinstall seems to have the same user details for my previous user account (mykal). the plan was to reinstate the users and delete the blank account.
[05:27] <Snowie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24521547/
[05:27] <Snowie> I'm *now trying to add...
[05:27] <pd1> the uid and gid are the same Snowie
[05:28] <gegen> sudo iwconfig wlxa.. power off -> operation not supported
[05:28] <Snowie> pd1: yeah, i get that. so if i create a user mykal, i should create them with the same uid and gid that i currently have for the 'blank' user i am logged in as?
[05:29] <Snowie> and then i can safely ditch the 'blank' user?
[05:29] <pd1> https://muffinresearch.co.uk/linux-changing-uids-and-gids-for-user/
[05:29] <pd1> change them for blank
[05:29] <Snowie> pd1: just trying not to lose stuff. not the end ofthe world, but yeah
[05:29] <pd1> i assume is the safest solution
[05:29] <pd1> backup the stuff!
[05:30] <Snowie> ok, so after the reinstall there is only one user 'blank'
[05:30] <gegen> modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 -> missing module name
[05:30] <Snowie> so i create the other 3 users, as per their home directories and uid gid
[05:30] <gegen> rmmod: ERROR: missing module name.
[05:30] <gegen> modprobe: FATAL: Error running remove command for iwlwi
[05:30] <pd1> hmmm gegen, that might not help at all :D
[05:31] <Snowie> then change the gid uid for 'blank
[05:31] <pd1> Snowie: chnage the uid/gid for bloank first
[05:31] <Snowie> once done i should be able to login as one of the other users and remove 'balank'
[05:31] <pd1> then create the other users, then drop blank
[05:31] <Snowie> pd1: is it safe to change that to a user i am logged in as?
[05:33] <pd1> i do not know
[05:33] <pd1> no way to backup the data to extern?
[05:34] <Snowie> not really. I'm nto too concerned if i lose all the user data. most of our stuff is 'in the cloud' anyway. have to reinstall some games and stuff. I think i might try creating the 2 non conflicting users and work from one of those users to fix the gid uid and then kill the old user
[05:35] <gegen> by the way i tried the other wifi dongle. its name is wlx60e32719fae1 :D
[05:40] <squig> hi does ubuntu have a tool to clean up temp files?
[05:40] <squig> Im sure I remember there is a deamon to do it
[05:53] <Crim> Hello?
[05:53] <Crim> I need help
[05:55] <Crim> I went to windows for a project and when i tried to boot back into ubuntu it wont load anything i had before. I need to get back to my account
[05:58] <Crim> I went to windows for a project and when i tried to boot back into ubuntu it wont load anything i had before. I need to get back to my account
[06:00] <Crim> Anyone here help?
[06:00] <Crim> ??
[06:02] <lovetruth> hello :)
[06:02] <lovetruth> here is ubuntu server edition too?...
[06:26] <gegen> pd1, thanks for your help. i will disconnect now. maybe i just buy a long lan cable so i have no problems with wifi at all.
[06:29] <deldate> hi
[06:32] <amicrawler-newbi> i hope some one can help with this issue
[06:32] <amicrawler-newbi> the log in for the store on software center not working for 16.04
[06:33] <amicrawler-newbi> can i redown load the programs i bought
[06:49] <karen_> Hi. What font by default is in xubuntu?
[07:50] <instigator> Hello. I am receiving the following error when updating packages with apt-get update: "The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192" (full error message here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24522088/. I also tried 'sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192' but it did not fix there error.
[07:53] <ducasse> instigator: most likely this is a temporary error, and will be fixed on the next update of the mirror. if it isn't, try #ubuntu-mirrors
[08:28] <pynki> how big you guys think the swap should be with 8GB ram? and should it be on the ssd or the oldcshool hdd?
[08:32] <FManTropyx> I guess it depends on how much memory you are using... maybe 2 GB (or none, if the 8 GB will always suffice) and I think swap should never be on an SSD
[08:37] <pynki> FManTropyx, thanks. ubuntu switched to swap files right?
[08:37] <ducasse> pynki: if you're going to use hibernation you need swap at least as big as your total ram. if swap is not heavily used i wouldn't worry about putting it on a modern ssd
[08:38] <pynki> ducasse, took me a week to sind an ssd that fit into that slot... don't think anything about that thing is modern at all :D can i hibernate a full encrypted ubuntu?
[08:47] <ducasse> pynki: no, you can't hibernate a fully encrypted system as it won't be able to resume.
[08:50] <pynki> ducasse, there are rumors about using fixed keys instead of random ones for the swap to enable hibernation
[08:51] <pynki> but well, - who needs hibernation?!?
[08:51] <CoderEurope> https://redd.it/68pmee wat happens After Ubuntu 18
[08:59] <ducasse> pynki: never looked into that, i've never needed hibernation
[09:01] <pynki> ducasse, me neither. a ubuntu system boots in seconds with the right hardware. CoderEurope is there an answer to the original posters question in that thread i cannot find?
[09:01] <kallesbar> Hi, I have quite a new laptop where i am trying to install ubuntu. It total stuck right after I start installation. I think it is proplem in my graphics card or something. Laptop has 2 GPU's Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M, Intel HD Graphics 530. Ithink I need some support to get forward. Antone can help me?
[09:03] <pynki> kallesbar, it is just doing nothing anymore? witing, witing witing?
[09:03] <pynki> waiting...
[09:04] <CoderEurope> kallesbar: have you tried using proprietory drivers for graphics ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/911264/login-loop-with-nvidia-proprietary-driver-and-after-uninstall-lost-both-wired-an
[09:04] <kallesbar> I waited about half a our and nothing
[09:04] <CoderEurope> maybe you'd better try https://askubuntu.com
[09:05] <kallesbar> No I don't. Even do not know how to use them.
[09:06] <pynki> kallesbar, can you turn off switchable graphics in the BIOS?
[09:08] <kallesbar> pynki: I need to check that BIOS settings
[09:08] <Little> This is wack
[09:09] <pynki> he nailed it i think
[09:10] <pynki> kallesbar, i am waiting for some ahrdware to fix my old laptop and then i have the same way to go you are going right now :D
[09:10] <pynki> plese just tell me if that helped or not :D
[09:12] <kallesbar> pynki: I am on BIOS now. Nothing I can do GPU's
[09:14] <kallesbar> pynki: I could only install Ubuntu server the laptop. Nothing graphics
[09:20] <ducasse> !nomodeset | kallesbar have you tried this?
[09:21] <CoderEurope> kallesbar: your download could be corrupted, probably not - but did you use https://etcher.io/ ??
[09:24] <bonalink> hello
[09:24] <CoderEurope> completely forgot about Caturday. hello bonalink o/
[09:25] <flux242> What does this mean?
[09:25] <flux242> $ sudo snap refresh
[09:25] <flux242> error: cannot refresh []: Post https://search.apps.ubuntu.com/api/v1/snaps/metadata: net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)
[09:26] <MonkeyDust> flux242  there's also the channel #snappy
[09:27] <flux242> ok, i'll try there
[09:31] <kallesbar> ducasse: I am on the Grup settings, pressed e and the I am. Could you give me more instructions?
[09:32] <kallesbar> ducasse: do I need to SET some parameter on there?
[09:33] <ducasse> kallesbar: all this should be in the link, but ho down to the line that says 'linux ...... quiet splash' and add nomodeset to the end
[09:35] <kallesbar> ducasse: It is there and now boot?
[09:36] <ducasse> kallesbar: yep, press f10
[09:36] <aruns> Hi, I am running the FTP command line client on Ubuntu 16.04, the FTP client version number is 0.17-33, it doesn't seem to have lpwd.
[09:37] <aruns> Are there any other FTP variant clients for the command line that anyone would recommend?
[09:37] <aruns> I have heard good things about ncftp and lftp.
[09:37] <ducasse> aruns: ncftp
[09:38] <aruns> ducasse: Yeah, that's what I was thinking of using. Does that support both lcd and lpwd?
[09:38] <kallesbar> ducasse: thanks, it works
[09:38] <aruns> I also heard it enables tab completion which is lacking on the FTP client.
[09:38] <ducasse> aruns: i honestly can't remember what it supports, i haven't used ftp in over a decade
[09:39] <aruns> ducasse: I see, it's because one of our webhosts at work only supports FTP D:
[09:39] <ducasse> kallesbar: you will need to do it again on first boot after install so you can install the nvidia driver. then it should no longer be necessary.
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> i use bareftp, checking out ncftp now
[09:43] <kallesbar> ducasse: yes ok, I noticed that in the document, thanks for you help
[09:52] <antilogic> Hello, im using ubuntu gnome 17.04 and want to install nvidia 375.66 driver, for that i need to stop lightdm/gdm but command: "sudo service lightdm stop" does not seem to do anything, same with gdm. Has anyone tried to install this new driver?
[09:56] <ducasse> antilogic: try with 'gdm3'
[09:56] <antilogic> tried that also
[09:58] <ducasse> antilogic: 'sudo systemctl isolate multi-user.target'
[09:58] <antilogic> what does it do?
[09:59] <BlackVenom> Hey folks. I just ran apt-get update and got this error
[09:59] <BlackVenom> E: Failed to fetch store:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_xenial-updates_restricted_dep11_Components-amd64.yml.gz  Hash Sum mismatch
[09:59] <BlackVenom> What does it mean
[10:00] <ducasse> BlackVenom: that happens from time to time when the mirror didn't properly finish an update. it will be fixed on the next one.
[10:01] <BlackVenom> Hi ducasse. What do you mean by fixed on the next one
[10:01] <ducasse> fixed on the next update of the mirror.
[10:02] <BlackVenom> OK thanks ducasse
[10:04] <antilogic> Thank you very much that helped!
[10:05] <ducasse> antilogic: you're welcome :)
[10:12] <metaphysician> I have an Intel 7th generation CPU. Which kernel version should I be using? The deepest CPU idle state that powertop shows is C3.
[10:13] <ducasse> metaphysician: you could try a mainline kernel
[10:13] <ducasse> !mainline
[10:18] <metaphysician> ducasse: OK.
[10:23] <brotherBox> hi, im having issues with natural scrolling in X after upgrading to ubuntu 17.04.  imputting the config at http://sprunge.us/CRYB into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the xorg log confirms that it does read from there. however, natural scrolling still doesn't work. what can i do?
[10:25] <YankDownUnder> brotherBox, Try: sudo apt-get install mousetweaks
[10:25] <brotherBox> YankDownUnder: mousetweaks is installed
[10:26] <atralheaven> hi, after updating my system now I have two lock screens! one within a windows, and other one like the login screen, I should pass both of them!
[10:27] <brotherBox> YankDownUnder: mousetweaks is installed, i started it. not sure which effect it has, but natural scrolling doesnt work and the man page makes no mention of a scrolling option
[10:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:32] <YankDownUnder> brotherBox, Try this: https://ducfilan.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/enable-system-wide-inverse-reverse-natural-scrolling-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[10:38] <brotherBox> YankDownUnder: i was yesterday advised to not put xorg configs into /usr/share as the article and every other source of that information suggests. also that ephemeral setting just screws up my scrolling, its just way too many lines
[10:40] <YankDownUnder> brotherBox, You're on 17.04 - so, if the current resolutions aren't working - be patient and keep researching and testing... :)
[10:43] <SupaYoshi> anyone know how to 're-stream' rtp streams?
[10:43] <golum> hey so ive got a problem, when i click on my home wifi, and put in all the info (username/password/security details) and try to connect, i constantly get pop ups that say 'for accessing the WiFi network you need to provide a password' and two little popups come up saying wifi deactivated and no secrets were provided. I tried my WiFi and laptop password and neither work here.
[10:44] <SupaYoshi> i want to re-stream camera streams, from a local ipcamera (x15 cameras) that are accessable on a ubuntu server, and then let the ubuntu server "re-stream" all the streams, by multicast?
[10:44] <golum> Help poor noobie golum out [p.s. am very new to linux)
[10:44] <brotherBox> golum: are you sure your wifi is configured correctly?
[10:44] <YankDownUnder> brotherBox, What's the "desktop" you're using - is it Gnome3 or Unity?
[10:45] <brotherBox> YankDownUnder: its i3, which afaik is a window manager. i dont like gnome3 or unity
[10:45] <ducasse> SupaYoshi: something like socat or nc, maybe the cli version of vlc would be a good place to start
[10:46] <YankDownUnder> brotherBox, Fair enough. I just found something in the "gconf"/"dconf" settings for natural scrolling. You might try in the i3 forums, too.
[10:47] <brotherBox> YankDownUnder: err, i had rather my WM or whatever don't need to know about how i do my scrolling and have X do it, as is recommended everywhere
[10:48] <ducasse> brotherBox: try putting what you put in xorg.conf into a .conf file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d instead
[10:50] <brotherBox> ducasse: okay, let me try, one sec
[10:52] <kael_> Hey guys, just installed ubuntu. When i opened firefox, it gives an error: Server not found. I did a little googling and ran command "ping www.google.com" it returns "ping: www.google.com: Name or server not known". I  googled this message & changed /etc/resolv.conf to have 8.8.8.8 dns, still unable to ping. Any ideas on the issue ?
[10:52] <brotherBox> ducasse: still no luck. it does recognise that i put a config into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d (in this case 70-synaptic.conf), but after doing systemctl restart lightdm.service its still mot working
[10:54] <brotherBox> kael_: did you configure internet/wifi on that machine?
[10:54] <brotherBox> ducasse: is it important that the touchpad is managed by synaptics?
[10:54] <kael_> @brotherBox, yes the wifi seems connected from the symbol.
[10:55] <ducasse> brotherBox: you need to be configuring the correct driver, yes
[10:55] <brotherBox> kael_: what interfaces does ifconfig show, and does the one you want to connect have an internal IP?
[10:56] <golum> @Brotherbox yes, i'm positive ive entered the right settings
[10:56] <brotherBox> ducasse: well, the entry thats recommended doesnt specify libinput or synaptics. what do you mean configuring the correct driver?
[10:59] <ducasse> brotherBox: your config does not seem to be for a specific driver, but a class of devices. but shouldn't MatchIsTouchpad be 'on' if you're trying to do this for a touchpad?
[11:00] <kael_> brotherBox_: ran "ifconfig" command seems like it is not installed, when i try to run "sudo apt install apt-tools", getting "E: unable to locate package net-tools". I am guessing i need to be connected to the internet to download this net-tools software.
[11:00] <kael_> *correction: "sudo apt-get install net-tools"
[11:01] <Ben64> yes, you do need internet to download things
[11:01] <ducasse> kael_: what about 'ip a sh'?
[11:01] <brotherBox> oh yes, its ip these days
[11:02] <ducasse> kael_: what kind of ubuntu did you install, btw?
[11:03] <brotherBox> ducasse: i set MatchIsTouchpad "on" and restarted lightdm, still nothing. the config that im using now is http://sprunge.us/HeeV, and for good measure, my xorg log is http://sprunge.us/SgHV
[11:03] <kael_> ducasse_: "ip a sh" returns: 1. lo:<LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP>.... 2.enp3s0:<NO-CARRIER, BROADCAST....3.wlp2s0: <BROADCAST,MILTICAST...
[11:04] <brotherBox> kael_: does enp3s0 or wlp3s0 have an inet field?
[11:04] <ducasse> kael_: put it on paste.ubuntu.com and post the url
[11:04] <kael_> @ducasse_: it ubuntu: 17.04
[11:05] <kael_> @brotherBox_:  yes wlp2s0 has inet field
[11:05] <brotherBox> what the value of that field?
[11:05] <brotherBox> *whats
[11:06] <kael_> inet 192.168.1.198/24 this is same as the nslookup from my mac which is connected to the same wifi
[11:07] <brotherBox> seems like you have been assigned an internal IP
[11:07] <brotherBox> also what ducasse said, try to get the dump of "ip a sh" online and link it
[11:07] <brotherBox> ducasse: any idea about my issue? :/
[11:08] <kael_> brotherBox_: sure I will write it manuallly and uplaod the link. it will take some time.
[11:09] <Hyth>  /nick Hyth
[11:09] <brotherBox> that seems inefficient, you may try with a usb drive after piping it to a file: ip a sh > ip_dump
[11:09] <Hyth> Hi guys
[11:11] <akik> brotherBox: did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for that setting, whether it shows up in there
[11:12] <brotherBox> akik: it does not actually. it puzzles me too, but it knows that there is a config file in/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[11:12] <brotherBox> *in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[11:13] <akik> brotherBox: i set some nvidia specific settings there and they are shown in the log file
[11:13] <akik> brotherBox: maybe it's a syntax problem?
[11:14] <kael_> @brotherBox @ducasse, please have a look at the dump generated by "ip a sh" command. https://pastebin.com/uRiWVW0d
[11:14] <brotherBox> akik: the only WW (warnings) are about fonts and graphics. no EE and ?? entries
[11:15] <brotherBox> if there was a syntax problem, wouldnt it throw a line about that into the log?
[11:15] <ducasse> brotherBox: not really, i'm not familiar with those settings. you could try using libinput instead of synaptics for the touchpad, see this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput
[11:17] <kael_> re: paste ubuntu link:  @brotherBox @ducasse, please have a look at the dump generated by "ip a sh" command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24522927/
[11:19] <brotherBox> kael_: what does ping -c4 192.168.1.255 do?
[11:21] <kael_> @brotherBox: ping -c4 192.168.1.255 is returning "Destination Host unreachable"
[11:23] <kael_> However, ping -c4 192.168.1.198 is giving no such message. 4 packets tramsitted, 3 recieved.
[11:23] <computeruser> kael_ are you using dhcp?
[11:23] <kael_> *4 recieved, 0 % packet loss
[11:25] <kael_> @computeruser: i shall get back to you once i figure out how to check if i am using dhcp :P
[11:25] <brotherBox> kael_: you may want to try sudo dhcpd, just in case
[11:27] <computeruser> thats a yes
[11:27] <computeruser> unless you configured static IP in network settings then you are using DHCP
[11:28] <computeruser> regardless though, some routers will not respond to ping 255
[11:28] <computeruser> 255 is default gateway but it is not really a destination
[11:28] <computeruser> it is reserved for broadcast messages
[11:29] <computeruser> the early internet would resend ping 255.255.255.255 to every node on the internet
[11:29] <pynki> therefore it cannot be the default gateway
[11:29] <computeruser> that is a problem
[11:29] <kael_> @computeruser_: i think i am using dhcp, since in my ipv4 setting it is mentioning "default(DHCP)", @brotherBox_: "sudo dhcpd" command gives "command not found" prompt.'
[11:30] <computeruser> I don't know the command in linux but in windows you would just type ipconfig /all
[11:30] <computeruser> that would tell you your IP, DNS, gateway and if you are on DHCP
[11:30] <computeruser> the information we need to help you
[11:31] <kael_> @computeruser, i guess the equivalent command in linux is "ifconfig", brotherBox asked me to run it before, but I dont have it installed and for installation i need internet:(
[11:33] <computeruser> there are definitely packages installed to do it already
[11:33] <computeruser> if you can ping then you have an connection manager loaded and running
[11:34] <computeruser> you can use the GUI
[11:34] <computeruser> where you were before looking at IPv4 settings
[11:34] <computeruser> go there
[11:34] <marvin3> is there a public log of this channel?
[11:34] <computeruser> oh wait the gui has no information
[11:35] <computeruser> if its DHCP that will just say DHCP
[11:35] <akik> marvin3: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/05/06/%23ubuntu.html
[11:36] <computeruser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[11:36] <kael_> @computeruser, yes, just saw the ipv4 section, no info is populated there.
[11:36] <computeruser> don't type these commands
[11:36] <computeruser> just read
[11:36] <CoderEurope> marvin3: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/05/06/%23ubuntu.html
[11:36] <computeruser> it will give you an overview of what packages you can use
[11:36] <computeruser> then read the man pages or google them
[11:36] <kael_> Thanks, will do it.
[11:37] <marvin3> CodeBlue1776 thanks
[11:40] <computeruser> kael_ type sudo ip addr
[11:40] <computeruser> that will tell you the interface name
[11:40] <computeruser> usually eth0 or wlan0
[11:40] <bekks> No need for sudo at that point.
[11:41] <computeruser> on my system it is eno1
[11:41] <computeruser> bekks I am new I don' know
[11:41] <computeruser> but I have CCNA cert from 2001
[11:41] <bekks> Thats why I am telling you ;)
[11:41] <computeruser> ok thanks
[11:42] <computeruser> I am just letting everyone know if I screw up please tell me
[11:42] <onomatopiea> What is the best way to auto mount sshfs on login?
[11:42] <bekks> !automount
[11:43] <onomatopiea> bekks: And it works with sshfs?
[11:43] <onomatopiea> Apologies! I see it now :3
[11:44] <Basketball> it is 4:44 am
[11:46] <kk4ewt> Basketball, then go to bed
[11:46] <Basketball> i cant... i have a bike ride in an hour
[11:47] <onomatopiea> Actually! I already have autof configured but it is not auto mounting
[11:48] <bekks> onomatopiea: What is "autof"?
[11:50] <onomatopiea> bekks: I am trying this: mntpoint -fstype=fuse,allow_other :sshfs\#"$FERAL_SSH_TARGET:private/data"
[11:50] <onomatopiea> But it is complaining mtnpoint is not found
[11:51] <bekks> onomatopiea: Well, then the mountpoint isnt found :)
[11:51] <onomatopiea> bekks: The command is not there ;)
[11:52] <onomatopiea> I have mtnctl?
[11:53] <geirha> it's not intended to be run as a command, it's a config line
[11:53] <onomatopiea> oh.
[11:54] <bekks> onomatopiea: Maybe you should read all of the text in that article linked, not just what you think is a command :)
[11:55] <onomatopiea> bekks: RTFM? What a suggestion!
[11:56] <onomatopiea> Ok  thanks, let me reboot and see if this works ;))
[11:56] <bekks> onomatopiea: I told you to read the parts between what you already read.
[11:59] <onomatopiea> bekks: Apologies. It didn't work anyways so I will keep reading
[12:00] <computeruser> kael_ I found it
[12:00] <computeruser> type ifconfig
[12:00] <computeruser> that is exactly what you are looking for
[12:00] <BluesKaj> or  ip addr
[12:01] <bekks> computeruser: ifconfig provides the same information. And is deprecated. Just use "ip addr"
[12:01] <Nokaji> Is there a known fault with CUPS? - it stopped functioning with me and won't reinstall (v16.04 with canon mx925 printer) - says "The following packages have unmet dependencies" e.g. "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.16) but 2.23-0ubuntu7 is to be installed" and 12 others
[12:02] <computeruser> I don't see a IP4 subnet mask in ip addr
[12:02] <ducasse> Nokaji: pastebin output of 'apt policy libc6'
[12:02] <computeruser> I never learned IP6
[12:02] <bekks> computeruser: So use "netstat -rn" then.
[12:03] <bekks> Nokaji: Can you pastebin "sudo apt update" please and provide the URL?
[12:03] <Nokaji> okie
[12:03] <computeruser> bekks perfect thanks!
[12:04] <frozenrouter> I have a strange issue with the nvidia drivers, nvidia prime and multiple monitors that has been going for a while, if anyone has knowlege about those subjects, i would welcome any help
[12:05] <computeruser> I am using th nvidia drivers
[12:05] <Nokaji> bekks: SORRY, IT DIDN'T GIVE ME A LINK
[12:05] <Nokaji> oops
[12:05] <computeruser> I swapped the cables so I don't need a config
[12:06] <Nokaji> bekks: just says 'all packages are up to date'
[12:06] <ducasse> Nokaji: again, pastebin output of 'apt policy libc6'
[12:06] <bekks> Nokaji: Put the entire output of "sudo apt update" into a pastebin please.
[12:06] <frozenrouter> well, when my laptop is running the x server with the nvidia card, and i setup it to use the three monitors connected, the whole system completely locks after a short while. this does not happen when 1 or 2 of the monitors are enabled.
[12:08] <computeruser> bekks actually I have a problem with netstat -rn
[12:09] <computeruser> there is no duplicate information to ifconfig eno1
[12:09] <computeruser> all the information is missing
[12:09] <computeruser> I get a subnet mask but that is all
[12:09] <Nokaji> bekks: https://pastebin.com/J3f8hu8h
[12:09] <Nokaji> THANKS
[12:10] <computeruser> https://pastebin.com/W4ECV9DC
[12:10] <computeruser> to compare ifconfig with netstat -rn
[12:11] <ducasse> Nokaji: can you pastebin output of 'apt policy libc6' now?
[12:11] <computeruser> ok so ifconfig is depreciated maybe but it works perfectly and it is installed by default in all versions of ubuntu
[12:11] <computeruser> I would say there is nothing wrong with it
[12:11] <Nokaji> ducasse: Hopefully the pastebin is what you are asking me for
[12:11] <bekks> Nokaji: Can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy libc6" please?
[12:11] <ducasse> Nokaji: it isn't
[12:12] <Nokaji> how do I do that, please?
[12:12] <Nokaji> is it a file?
[12:12] <bekks> Nokaji: It is a command to be typed.
[12:12] <ducasse> Nokaji: enter 'apt policy libc6 | nc termbin.com 9999'
[12:13] <Nokaji> so far it just hangs with a > prompt
[12:14] <EriC^^> Nokaji: single quote typo
[12:14] <ducasse> Nokaji: don't enter the quotes
[12:15] <Nokaji> okie, a different result now ....
[12:15] <emma__> hi
[12:15] <ducasse> Nokaji: what is the url?
[12:15] <Nokaji> http://termbin.com/5paq
[12:17] <emma__> im using hp laptop with core i5 cpu.now i want limit cpu frequency to half.it seems kernel use intel p-state driver for sandy cpu.how is it?
[12:19] <Nokaji> bekks: care to share your suspicions/thinking?
[12:20] <emma__> ??
[12:20] <bekks> Nokaji: Since you are trying to install a package, pastebin the exact command and its output please.
[12:20] <tuxinator> dear ubuntu people
[12:20] <Nokaji> I wasn't using the terminal ...
[12:21] <tuxinator> not a linux noob, however really unable to bring a ubuntu to boot on a supermicro server
[12:21] <bekks> Nokaji: So do it now :)
[12:21] <Nokaji> bekks: I've tried ubuntu s/w centre and synaptic, I've tried installing cups with options, cups on its own and just a specific driver? for canon - all fail similarly with dependencies
[12:21] <Nokaji> okie
[12:23] <tuxinator> boot_grub exists
[12:24] <Al3xG0> kex error : no match for method mac algo client->server: server [hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-ripemd160], client [hmac-sha1]
[12:24] <Nokaji> bekks: https://pastebin.com/QABYYDcE
[12:24] <Al3xG0> how to solve error
[12:25] <bekks> Al3xG0: Please tell us when and how that error occurs.
[12:26] <Nokaji> bekks: theres a 'gutenberg' installable that synaptic suggests as an alternative but that errors out too
[12:26] <Nokaji> (specifically a canon driver)
[12:27] <Al3xG0> bekks When I'm trying to connect to my server by x2go
[12:27] <bekks> Al3xG0: Which server? Which Ubuntu releases, which x2go versions, what exactly are you doing, and whats the full output?
[12:28] <pynki> whats the recommended way to egt a ubuntu iso to a usb from widows?
[12:28] <bekks> !usb
[12:28] <Nokaji> bekks: and I didn't select any options on that, to keep it simple - I'll try synaptic meanwhile and paste the results unless you say otherwise
[12:28] <bekks> Nokaji: I am not interested in synaptic, and you should use it when having broken dependencies.
[12:29] <Al3xG0> bekks Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS -> my server
[12:30] <Al3xG0> x2go 4.8.7
[12:32] <Nokaji> bekks: https://pastebin.com/gk3sd4zN
[12:33] <Nokaji> bekks: synaptic says, zero broken dependencies - I did have some but dleted all of cups and one other proggie
[12:34] <Nokaji> oh, 'not' interested - okie
[12:35] <Nokaji> bekks: any idea what the problem is?
[12:42] <Rizwan> hey
[12:42] <bodhi> hi
[12:43] <Rizwan> software gets stuck and have to restart system to work on it
[12:43] <Rizwan> what could be the problem
[12:43] <Rizwan> please help
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> Rizwan  what software and on what system?
[12:44] <Rizwan> ubuntu and desktop
[12:44] <bodhi> what are your system specs rizwan?
[12:44] <Rizwan> operating system
[12:44] <Rizwan> gets stuck
[12:44] <bodhi> I meant the hardware
[12:45] <Rizwan> 4g ram, corei3-3220 cpu 3.3ghz
[12:45] <Rizwan> 1tb hdd and 450w
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Rizwan  can you login?
[12:45] <bodhi> which distro are you using?
[12:46] <Al3xG0> kex error : no match for method mac algo client->server: server [hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-ripemd160], client [hmac-sha1]  I'm trying to connect to my server by x2go
[12:46] <Rizwan> yes can login and it works fine
[12:46] <Rizwan> ubuntu 16.10
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> Rizwan  so what program is the problem?
[12:47] <seednode> Al3xG0, looks like that client either only supports or is only offering up hmac-sha1 as an option, which has been deprecated
[12:47] <Rizwan> the desktop gets stuck
[12:47] <Rizwan> have to restart it
[12:47] <Rizwan> to work on it again
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> Rizwan  you mean, it freezes?
[12:48] <Rizwan> yes right
[12:48] <seednode> Al3xG0, cursory googling seems to show that builds 4.0.3.0 (for Windows, at least) and later use a libssh version supporting other algos, but older ones will not
[12:49] <Rizwan> i have reinstalled ubuntu it works fine for 2 days and then it freezes and we r forced to restart to work on it
[12:49] <schahermacher> https://0bin.net/paste/OPSds6cUX4-hGzdA#J6jNG5KCbeMyXK-OruzSDEso2UKouDSY69VFIgWBi9F
[12:50] <schahermacher> can someone explain the reason behind this crash?
[12:50] <Al3xG0> seednode client ssh x2go?
[12:50] <seednode> Yes, older x2go versions only seem to support hmac-sha1, which IIRC is disabled by default on current openssh builds due to being possibly insecure
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> Rizwan  it's still too vague ... what video card is it?
[12:52] <Rizwan> its doesnt have a card
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> Rizwan  the monitor needs a video card
[12:54] <Rizwan> is it graphic card
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> yes
[12:54] <Rizwan> our work doesnt need a graphic card
[12:54] <Rizwan> basic computing, data entry
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> Rizwan  is it the machine you are typing on, now, here, in irc?
[12:57] <Rizwan> do u want me to login from machine
[12:57] <Mallow> No
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> Rizwan  login from machine?
[12:57] <Rizwan> sure in a moment
[12:59] <Al3xG0> seednode Do I have to install a newer version of x2go to work?
[13:00] <seednode> Al3xG0, I've never used x2g0, but that's what it looks like
[13:01] <Rizwan_> hey
[13:02] <Rizwan> I have logged please reply
[13:02] <Rizwan> loggin out from this sys
[13:02] <Mallow> Have quit ?
[13:06] <jk^> how to choose the best flavour? :\ Someone tells me. Each user choose about his needs. But, if i don't know the differences between all flavours and without using anyone of them, how may i match my needs? :-o
[13:06] <Akbar> hi
[13:06] <Guest49890> will u plz help me
[13:07] <Sparrow__> !ask
[13:09] <jk^> Or, have i to choose just according to System Requirements?
[13:10] <Guest49890> i am using ubuntu 16.10 my system is freezing..i reinstall it also it works good 2 or 3 days agian it will freeze
[13:11] <zteam> jk^, if you would like some Windows-like I casn recommend Kubuntu, otherwise I find the vanilla flavor (regular Ubuntu very nice)
[13:11] <Guest49890> i am using ubuntu 16.10 my system is freezing..i reinstall it also it works good 2 or 3 days agian it will freeze
[13:11] <Sparrow__> jk^, Download a bunch, put them on flash drives and test them without installing. See how they actually work on tiyr jardare then install two, one to use and one to play with and break
[13:12] <Sparrow__> your hardware
[13:12] <zteam> jk^, if you are still unsure, there should be plenty of youtube videos comparing them
[13:12] <Guest49890> 4 gb ram 1tb hdd
[13:12] <Guest49890> i3 processsor
[13:12] <aruns> Hi, I am running Apache 2.4.18 on Ubuntu 16.04, I have set ServerTokens to Prod / ProductOnly in my apache2/apache2.conf file, and I have a .htaccess file in one of my test vhost subdirs in /var/www which has the following ServerSignature Off
[13:12] <Sparrow__> No you do go for a ride and let the salesman drive do you, no you drive it you see how it feels
[13:13] <aruns> When I visit that vhost locally and open Chrome DevTools Console after reloading the server and check the Network tab so that I can check the HTTP response headers, it still says Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
[13:13] <ryzokuken> guys, how ubuntu compares to elementary and mint in terms of sheer speed?
[13:13] <zteam> Guest49890, are you asking about which flavor you should pick?
[13:13] <Guest49890> its strucking again & again
[13:14] <Kolus> aruns, it sounds like you need to update your vhosts to add a virtual host to your system and point it to your directory
[13:14] <Sparrow__> ryzokuken, Guest49890 thats what I have on this system  i2 an 4gig 500 gighd
[13:14] <Kolus> otherwise your going to continually see the Apache page
[13:14] <ryzokuken> Sparrow__: ?
[13:14] <Sparrow__> my bad
[13:15] <ryzokuken> were you answering my question?
[13:15] <Sparrow__> Goodmorning my friend.
[13:15] <Troy1> Guest49890: are you allowing your computer to enter sleep/hibernation?
[13:16] <ryzokuken> which is the best ubuntu variant/derivative in terms of performance?
[13:16] <Guest49890> yes
[13:16] <aruns> Kolus: ?
[13:16] <aruns> You are misunderstanding.
[13:16] <Troy1> Guest49890: that may be your issue? you never gave us more details on when it freezes?
[13:17] <aruns> I am asking how to hide the Apache server version in the HTTP response headers, I have used ServerSignature Prod but it is not working
[13:17] <Sparrow__> ryzokuken, that question leads to a lot of discussion but it depends more on which flavors you pick.  Mint cinnamon is great but heavy, lm is very light and mint in the middle
[13:17] <Guest49890> whenever we are opening photoshop or excels sheet that time itsb freezing
[13:17] <Kolus> thats going to take a little lookup for me too
[13:17] <Sparrow__> sounds like a wine prob;em
[13:17] <Troy1> photoshop?
[13:18] <Guest49890> yes
[13:18] <aruns> Are you opening in Photoshop via WINE or via GIMP?
[13:18] <aruns> Guest49890
[13:18] <pynki> thx @bekks
[13:18] <Guest49890> via gimp
[13:18] <Guest49890> sory gimp only
[13:19] <jk^> Sparrow__, Pls, what means--> "See how they actually work on tiyr jardare then install two, one to use and one to play with and break"
[13:19] <aruns> Well PSD is a proprietary format
[13:19] <aruns> So maybe the issue is that Gimp is struggling to convert some of your PSD files
[13:19] <Sparrow__> jk^, see me in private
[13:19] <aruns> Because it has to reverse engineer the format in order to read the files
[13:19] <Betlehem> ^_^
[13:20] <Guest49890> whenever m using libre office also
[13:20] <Guest49890> it becoming freeze
[13:21] <aruns> Let me bring up LibreOffice Calc.
[13:21] <Troy1> again probablly opening large workbooks with formulas and code that were made in microsoft excel
[13:21]  * pynki has abck a real linux machine and feels like a human being again
[13:22] <Guest49890> so wht should i do now
[13:22] <Sparrow__> g498   run this in terminal   inxi -Fxxrzc0
[13:23] <Sparrow__> argh, fingers are not working this am paste failures everywhere argh
[13:23] <aruns> Maybe you could go to Tools > Options in LibreOffice Calculator Guest49890
[13:23] <aruns> Tweak some of the settings.
[13:24] <aruns> Check Memory and View under LibreOffice at the top
[13:24] <aruns> Maybe tweaking some of the settings could help
[13:25] <aruns> You could maybe try reducing the graphics cache, idk
[13:25] <aruns> Not really much of a LibreOffice user
[13:25] <aruns> Maybe see if hardware acceleration is ticked under View
[13:25] <aruns> Untick it to see if it improves performance
[13:26] <aruns> Otherwise yeah as Troy1 it probably can't handle large workbooks
[13:32] <Nokaji> Is there a known fault with CUPS? - it stopped functioning with me and won't reinstall (v16.04 with canon mx925 printer) - says "The following packages have unmet dependencies" e.g. "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.16) but 2.23-0ubuntu7 is to be installed" and 12 others
[13:36] <zteam> Nokaji, try to to run sudo apt-get -f install in a terminal and apt will try to resolve it for you
[13:36] <Nokaji> Thanks zteam
[13:39] <Nokaji> zteam: It's giving me 'unable to install' "The following packages have unmet dependencies." and then list 7 pkgs
[13:40] <schahermacher> can somebody help with my freezing issue plz?
[13:42] <EriC^^> !details | schahermacher
[13:43] <schahermacher> my system freeze each 2-3 days here is the log of kernel at the moment it did: https://0bin.net/paste/OPSds6cUX4-hGzdA#J6jNG5KCbeMyXK-OruzSDEso2UKouDSY69VFIgWBi9F
[13:46] <zteam> Nokaji, try to disable any third-party repositorys if you have added some (if you don't know what that means then you probably haven't touched one either, and then you can ignore this suggestion) :-)
[13:48] <Nokaji> ztane: okay, I used to have pidgin, now deleted (problematic) .. I'll check on others
[13:49] <Sparrow__> schahermacher, inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[13:50] <Nokaji> ztane: if I disable "unsupported updates (xenial backports)" for now, is that a plan?
[13:51] <schahermacher> Sparrow__ here you are Sir https://pastebin.com/M4eqardg
[13:51] <ryzokuken> guys, which ubuntu flavor works best considering a mix of looks and performance and giving a little more weightage to performance?
[13:51] <Sparrow__> tx
[13:51] <ryzokuken> please help me decide.
[13:52] <Sparrow__> schahermacher, what did you add from that ppa?
[13:53] <schahermacher> can you help me remember what is ppa?
[13:53] <pynki> ryzokuken, giving advice on something like "looks" are 100% subjectivef
[13:53] <Nokaji> zteam: rather (sorry) - if I rephrase the question ... I have only updates form canonical and launchpad EXCEPT webupd8.org - should I kill that one?
[13:54] <pynki> ryzokuken, i would recommend ubuntu minimal + fluxbox - but for others that may suck
[13:56] <ryzokuken> pynki: some looks are more or less universal. KDE looks better than XFCE for almost everyone.
[13:56] <zteam> Nokaji, if you have added ppas yes,
[13:56] <Nokaji> okie
[14:01] <pynki> ryzokuken, maybe. but without knowing your preferences its hard to recommend anything regarding looks. what about usability? special needs?  etc.?
[14:02] <schahermacher> Frankly I don't remember Sir Sparrow__
[14:02] <schahermacher> but maybe i can do some kind of revision through terminal?
[14:06] <pynki> schahermacher, most likely java8 was added from that ppa
[14:07] <schahermacher> right java installed
[14:07] <schahermacher> i need that for my software
[14:07] <schahermacher> i think this machine have version 7
[14:07] <Sparrow__> schahermacher, often ppas are where things break
[14:07] <schahermacher> any way to keep that and also be stable?
[14:08] <nicolas_mate> hola tengo un problema con el bluetooth, alguien me puede ayudar?
[14:08] <ducasse> schahermacher: to get newer stable software, upgrade to a newer ubuntu version
[14:09] <schahermacher> isn't it new enough ducasse?
[14:09] <pynki> it is
[14:09] <schahermacher> then what should i upgrade?
[14:09] <pynki> schahermacher, openjdk is no choice for you regarding java?
[14:09] <pynki> needs to be oracle java?
[14:10] <schahermacher> i can consider that, am installing it because i use software that use it
[14:10] <schahermacher> if it will work with openjdk i have no problems with that
[14:10] <pynki> there are just a few corner cases openjdk cannot do things oracle can
[14:11] <schahermacher> ok so first i have to uninstall the jave i already got right?
[14:11] <pynki> no
[14:11] <schahermacher> java*
[14:11] <pynki> can install them side by side
[14:11] <schahermacher> and it will possibly prevent freezing?
[14:11] <schahermacher> just updated everything thgough updater too
[14:12] <pynki> the freezing was always there? or can you say: i did this and that and then it happend?
[14:12] <schahermacher> hey afx_ your music is great
[14:12] <schahermacher> it's when system is idle
[14:12] <schahermacher> so i have no idea yet what the cause is
[14:12] <pynki> schahermacher, have a look here https://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-sun-oracles-proprietary-java-jdk-6-7-8-or-jre
[14:12] <pynki> adjust the solution for adding openjdk :P
[14:13] <schahermacher> ok i look at it thanks pynki
[14:13] <pynki> sudo update-alternatives --config java that shoudl be the interesting line
[14:13] <pynki> schahermacher, but your software might have a config file setting JAVA_HOME or soemthing similar that needs to point to the directory with the JRE
[14:14] <pynki> besides the alternatives thing
[14:14] <schahermacher> right.
[14:14] <pynki> tomcat for example will need that
[14:14] <pynki> but its a desktop machine so i assume its not tomcat7 :D
[14:14] <moongazer> how do install the 32 bit version of chromium on 64 bit ubuntu 16.04?
[14:15] <schahermacher> no it's desktop
[14:15] <Sparrow__> moongazer, Why?
[14:15] <schahermacher> i have apparently the same issue when use laptop with the same system
[14:15] <schahermacher> freezing while idle
[14:15] <schahermacher> also java is there too
[14:16] <Sparrow__> schahermacher, try blacklisting dmac_core fix and test one of these boots.
[14:16] <schahermacher> I have no idea what that means Sir, but thanks for suggesion.
[14:20] <pynki> moongazer, sudo apt-get install chromium-browser:i386
[14:21] <pynki> but it sounds like a wired idea to do that
[14:22] <pynki> schahermacher, https://askubuntu.com/questions/110341/how-to-blacklist-kernel-modules
[14:23] <schahermacher> thanks pynki
[14:23] <Sparrow__> schahermacher, dw_dmac.blacklist=yes dw_dmac_core.blacklist=yes replaces quiet and splash in grub menu on boot.   Just something to try if fixing that ppa does not work out
[14:23] <Sparrow__> Im still trying to wake up.. tx for understanding
[14:24] <Sparrow__> using kernal newer than 4.5 also fixes some of those suspend bugs
[14:24] <pynki> Sparrow__, unlikely that the problem is caused by the ppa. we internet would be full of solutions if its the oracle java ppa causing system freezes i think
[14:25] <Sparrow__> agreed
[14:25] <schahermacher> thanks for your support guys
[14:25] <schahermacher> appreciated
[14:25] <Sparrow__> pynki, show him how to edit quiet splash while I wake u plz..
[14:26] <schahermacher> haha
[14:26] <schahermacher> yes plz
[14:27] <Sparrow__> esc to get grub menu on boot   the e to edit  find quie and splash and replace
[14:27] <Sparrow__> something like that
[14:31] <pynki> Sparrow__, funny - am only  awake because i am revivian an old laptop that cant be turned off and needs to be plugged in while i wait for rhe 6kb/s downloads to finish here in china :/
[14:31] <pynki> but my brain is already sleeping. schahermacher seems to be the only one in atimezone that is in "day" mode :D
[14:32] <Greyhawk> ;-D
[14:32] <schahermacher> yeah we in here are at daytime now
[14:32] <schahermacher> am in ukraine
[14:33] <pynki> yeah - your mirrors showed something clone or in russia :D
[14:33] <pynki> close
[14:33] <schahermacher> hehe
[14:34] <afx_> schahermacher, ty . too bad cant use ubuntu for it :(
[14:34] <schahermacher> lol afx_
[14:35] <Greyhawk> lolz
[14:35] <schahermacher> analord GNU edition? afx_
[14:36] <Delvien> cron jobs arent working, here is my crontab: https://pastebin.com/1dCbNqdD
[14:37] <Sparrow__> pynki, I could make you cry with my stories about 600 baud modems in the 70's
[14:37] <ducasse> Delvien: are those scripts?
[14:37] <Delvien> ducasse: yes
[14:38] <pynki> Sparrow__, schahermacher https://grumpymole.blogspot.hk/2007/05/ubuntu-how-to-edit-grub-boot-parameters.html explain to him what to add/remove
[14:38] <ducasse> Delvien: can you  pastebin one of them?
[14:38] <schahermacher> thanks pynki
[14:39] <pynki> schahermacher, 1. Changing Boot Parameters Temporarily this one ;)
[14:39] <Delvien> ducasse Well, lemme just phrase it this way, i can run fixlcd or fixhdmi and it runs. either with fixlcd or /usr/bin/fixlcd
[14:39] <Delvien> ducasse: cron just isnt executing them
[14:39] <pynki> schahermacher, dw_dmac.blacklist=yes dw_dmac_core.blacklist=yes replaces quiet and splash in grub menu on boot.   Just something to try if fixing  is what Sparrow__  wrote earlier
[14:39] <RawketLawncha> say there is a system with 1TB HDD, and that entire disk is for home directories, so everyone is free to use that 1TB of space, so you think its possible to somehow encrypt everyone's home directory without actually allocating some particular space for everyone ? I mean I know I can just make 1GB file use md-crypt and mount it for every user but
[14:39] <RawketLawncha>  that would limit everyone to 1GB, so you think its possible to somehow keep that 1TB of free space for everyone and still encrypt everyone's files in home directory ?
[14:40] <ducasse> Delvien: yes, but you are running them from an interactive shell, cron isn't.
[14:40] <Sparrow__> pynki, thanks nice link
[14:40] <Delvien> ducasse so if they are only running one line, i can just put that line into cron?
[14:41] <pynki> RawketLawncha, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[14:41] <schahermacher> jawa - a thousands pleasures not.
[14:41] <schahermacher> java*
[14:41] <ducasse> Delvien: that depends on what is in that line
[14:41] <Delvien> ducasse: xrandr line
[14:41] <RawketLawncha> python - a thousand and one pleasures not
[14:42] <ducasse> Delvien: cron can't 'see' your x session. you see why i needed to know what was in that script now?
[14:44]  * pynki loves "Select and install Software" - "Retrieving file 14 of 72 (4h 48min remaining)"
[14:45] <schahermacher> i love my terminal, hopefully i learn enough to avoid drag and drop interfaces completely
[14:45] <schahermacher> what is good guides for basic terminal commands?
[14:45] <pynki> daylu work
[14:46] <pynki> avoid the mouse
[14:46] <schahermacher> what's daylu?
[14:46] <pynki> just do it in the terminal
[14:46] <Delvien> ducasse: sorry, hit ctrl x by accident :P https://pastebin.com/iRb4JBhH
[14:46] <pynki> dayly
[14:46] <schahermacher> still not clear
[14:46] <schahermacher> yes mouse also not necessary
[14:47] <schahermacher> am pushing myself to emacs zone
[14:48] <Greyhawk> noooo
[14:48] <ducasse> Delvien: it *might* work if you put 'DISPLAY=:0.0 ' at the beginning of the xrandr line, but this is just an ugly hack. cron has no access to x sessions.
[14:48] <pynki> schahermacher, press "tab" key in the terminal - there are thousands of commands to choose, no guide can teach them to you. when you start doing things exclusively in the terminal - things like copy files, move files, etc etc - you will get used to it. almnost every problem you have could be solved in the terminal as long as you want it and do it. its a question of learning by doing. reading guides will not teach you for a long time
[14:48] <Delvien> ducasse: yeah, its an ugly hack, but the utilities arent available to make this happen automagically
[14:49] <schahermacher> if i press tab nothing happens apparently
[14:50] <Delvien> ducasse yeah didnt work :/ I think just making a repeating script would work better lol
[14:50] <pynki> typei n any character. then tab. it will show you all commands that start with that char
[14:50] <pynki> don't knwo why just tab does not work :D
[14:50] <Squidwin> After I finished installation and start restart and remove the installation medium, after that just a black screen shows up
[14:50] <Squidwin> why doesn't my OS load?
[14:50] <itstony> You may have to press tab twice to get it to list out all commands
[14:51] <pynki> Squidwin, the hdd the system is installed to is choosen in the BIOS for booting?
[14:51] <schahermacher> aha, i see thank you pynki
[14:51] <Squidwin> pynki, yes I guess
[14:52] <pynki> schahermacher, "man command" will show you the manual. e.g. "man cp" for the copy command. without all the "
[14:52] <Squidwin> pynki, it is SSD actually
[14:52] <pynki> Squidwin, that does not matter as long as the BIOS knows that you want to boot from that disk
[14:53] <pynki> Squidwin, just checking the simple thigns first ;)
[14:53] <Delvien> ducasse: repeating script worked like a charm, prolly convert it to a service at a later time lol
[14:53] <Squidwin> pynki, yes the bios option is correct
[14:53] <schahermacher> oh yes man i know my favorite is man man
[14:53] <Squidwin> pynki, still it does not work it is just a black screen with no text but a keyboard space
[14:53] <schahermacher> how to I resize the screen to see the complete text without mouse?
[14:54] <pynki> schahermacher, in a terminal?
[14:54] <Squidwin> Please help guys I have a lot of things to do...
[14:54] <schahermacher> yes
[14:54] <pynki> schahermacher, no way :D use up/down arrows or google "manpage command"
[14:55] <pynki> most of them are online somewhere
[14:55] <schahermacher> i think i read some where it is possible
[14:55] <schahermacher> however
[14:55] <Squidwin> Guys I said I have a lot of things to do, and still the OS does not load!
[14:55] <Squidwin> Come on!!!!!
[14:55] <pynki> Squidwin, first of all: boot a live ubuntu from an usb stick
[14:55] <skinux> APT is stuck running in the background and kill command isn't working, it just starts again
[14:56] <Squidwin> pynki, I booted from USB and installed it and finished every information, and I pressed restart and removed my installation medium and waited to use the OS, but it does not show.
[14:57] <pynki> Squidwin, and then someone else needs to take over because i need to sleep. i finally got my installer files downloaded and now have 3 days time to wait for texlive to downlaod
[14:57] <pynki> Squidwin, i know. but fixing that will need an ubuntu started from an usb stick
[14:57] <schahermacher> keep up the good work pynki!
[14:57] <Squidwin> pynki, what do you mean?
[14:58] <schahermacher> he means proby that you have to boot from usb again to fix that, to diagnose the problem
[14:58] <pynki> Squidwin, plugin the usb again, boot the usb stick and choose "test ubuntu" or some liek that
[14:58] <Squidwin> Anyone please help me, I don't have time, I already spend hours on downloading and buring to USB stick.
[14:58] <Squidwin> pynki, ok
[14:58] <pynki> a _ blinking is not an error message anyone could work on
[14:59] <Squidwin> pynki, should I choose USB from legacy boot or UEFI boot list?
[15:00] <Squidwin> Legacy or UEFI boot? Which one?!
[15:01] <Squidwin> Hello? Legacy or UEFI boot? Goddamit I am running out of time!
[15:01] <ducasse> !patience | Squidwin
[15:02] <schahermacher> i feel legacy
[15:02] <schahermacher> if it boots it doesn't matter apparently
[15:02] <Squidwin> I clicked on what pynki said
[15:03] <Squidwin> I clicked on check disk for defects (somehin like that)
[15:03] <RawketLawncha> pynki: are  you a brony ?
[15:03] <Squidwin> Nothing happens again, it is just black screen with no text
[15:04] <Squidwin> What should I do?
[15:04] <Squidwin> pynki, ?
[15:05] <blackflow> Squidwin: did you try the legacy boot?
[15:05] <Squidwin> blackflow, no, UEFI bot
[15:05] <RawketLawncha> are all new motherboards nowadays have UEFI ?
[15:05] <Squidwin> blackflow, why?
[15:05] <blackflow> Squidwin: try Legacy
[15:06] <Squidwin> it has been thousand times I am turing on and off my PC,
[15:07] <Squidwin> Okay what should I choose?
[15:07] <blackflow> Squidwin: legacy
[15:07] <Squidwin> Yes
[15:07] <Squidwin> check disc for defects?
[15:07] <Squidwin> Test memory?
[15:07] <Squidwin> Boot from first hard disk (mine is SSD)?
[15:07] <blackflow> yes
[15:07] <blackflow> that last
[15:08] <Squidwin> i clicked
[15:09] <pynki> RawketLawncha, a brony?
[15:09] <Squidwin> blackflow, it leaded me to installation again
[15:09] <Squidwin> blackflow, should install it all over again and what if the same thing happens again?
[15:10] <ducasse> Squidwin: did you install in uefi mode or legacy mode? if uefi, where did you the install the bootloader?
[15:11] <Squidwin> ducasse, legacy boot this time
[15:11] <blackflow> Squidwin: did you actually try booting from your disk (not usb) in legacy mode?
[15:11] <Squidwin> blackflow, YES
[15:11] <blackflow> like, unplugged the usb and/or selected proper HDD/SSD form a boot menu?
[15:12] <Squidwin> blackflow, only a black screen will show up
[15:12] <blackflow> Squidwin: and if you reboot again (not plugging your usb in), does it reach the grub menu?
[15:13] <Squidwin> blackflow, I don't really know it is just a blackscreen without text and I can type nothing!
[15:13] <blackflow> Squidwin: well does it? In case it doesn't boot properly, on next reboot it should give you the grub menu
[15:14] <blackflow> in that menu you can edit the kernel line to disable splash so oyu can see kernel messages as it boots up, maybe there'd be a clue as to why it halts
[15:14] <blackflow> and if you can't reach the grub menu at all, either you're not booting properly, or the installation is botched.
[15:15] <Squidwin> The installtion is getting don
[15:15] <Squidwin> *done
[15:15] <Squidwin> Lets see what it will show after the restart process
[15:16] <blackflow> Squidwin: did it ask you where to store the grub bootloader?
[15:16] <Squidwin> blackflow, not at all.
[15:17] <Squidwin> blackflow, it just asked for filling simple data, thats it man
[15:17] <blackflow> before you reboot
[15:17] <blackflow> open the terminal and type 'cat /etc/fstab'
[15:17] <Squidwin> blackflow, I don't have access to OS now it is being finished installation
[15:17] <blackflow> That will show you the fstab file which contains primary mount points for the system. If it contains a string like '/boot/efi' then that's an EFI installation
[15:18] <blackflow> Squidwin: are you installing Ubuntu?
[15:18] <blackflow> because iirc the installer should allow you to use the OS booted from the USB before you do the final reboot
[15:18] <Squidwin> blackflow, no but a Ubuntu based OS, but I had the exact same problem when I was installing pure Ubuntu
[15:19] <blackflow> Not ubuntu? We're done here. bye. :)
[15:19] <Squidwin> It is ubuntu flavor
[15:19] <blackflow> it's not ubuntu.
[15:19] <blackflow> go ask the devs who made the flavor what kind of changes they did, and to help you with those changes.
[15:19] <Squidwin> blackflow, it is Ubuntu based! And again had THE SAME PROBLEM WITH UBUNTU!!!!!
[15:19] <Squidwin> blackflow, it is the same!!!!!!
[15:19] <blackflow> unless youmean one of the official ones? ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu mate ?
[15:20] <blackflow> then if it is the same, the isntaller allows you to use the OS
[15:20] <pynki> and asks you for the grub install point
[15:20] <Squidwin> Noit did not
[15:20] <blackflow> you can start up the installation USB, and chose to "explore", which is  a live env. you can start the installer (it opens a window) so you can use the OS while it installs
[15:20] <blackflow> then it's not the same, is it?
[15:20] <RawketLawncha> Squidwin: so you are asking for help with not ubuntu ?
[15:21] <blackflow> ubuntu installer also asks where to store the grub loader, if that didn't change recently.
[15:21] <blackflow> Squidwin: which flavor is this?
[15:21] <Squidwin> ASSUME I AM INSTALLING UBUNTU
[15:21] <anddam> why does claws-mail, a MUA on itself, suggests evolution and sylpheed?
[15:21] <Squidwin> blackflow, Zorin OS.
[15:21] <anddam> s/suggests/suggest
[15:21] <pynki> Squidwin, ok. open the terminal :D
[15:21] <RawketLawncha> Squidwin: why not just use ubuntu and avoid those problems in the first place ?
[15:21] <Squidwin> pynki, the screen is empty
[15:22] <Squidwin> RawketLawncha, coz I HAD THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM WITH UBUNTU
[15:22] <Squidwin> Okay it asks for restart now
[15:22] <Squidwin> I will click restart now
[15:22] <RawketLawncha> "SAME PROBLEM", sticky caps lock ?
[15:22] <blackflow> Squidwin: I'm going to give you support fo ubuntu, and I don't care what it is. So my advice to you is this: check where it saved the grub loader, or if you're a a later stage, open the terminal when it's done and see the fstab file.
[15:22] <kunji> Squidwin: Black screen is pretty generic, there are a whole host of possible issues and they may not be the same in Ubuntu as in Zorin, so I don't see how you have verified it is the same problem.
[15:23]  * pynki reads that zorin os is rock solid and reliable
[15:23] <Squidwin> Okay the restart pocess started
[15:23] <blackflow> Squidwin: now, if that advice doesn't  help you because your installer doesn't allow that, that's YOUR problem.
[15:23] <Squidwin> 1 sec please...
[15:23] <RawketLawncha> Squidwin: I don't want to read scrollback logs, what is the exact problem ?
[15:24] <Squidwin> RawketLawnha, the problem is, I cannot open my OS.
[15:24] <pynki> RawketLawncha, installing ubuntu likeish os - not booting
[15:24] <blackflow> RawketLawncha: black screen upon reboot
[15:24] <Squidwin> yes
[15:24] <Squidwin> not booting
[15:24] <kunji> RawketLawncha: From my skimming after install and reboot he gets a black screen, Zorin OS.
[15:25] <Squidwin> WTF?! I can move mouse point but the screen is empty and it seems I am not in the OS.
[15:25] <pynki> and the usb does not allow a live system nor does the installer let him choose where to install grub
[15:25] <blackflow> !based on ubuntu | Squidwin
[15:25] <Squidwin> the screen has a booting-time theme wallpape
[15:26] <pynki> zorin os will have an support app i assume
[15:26] <kunji> Squidwin: Could be a graphics, among many other possibilities, but if you're seeing a pointer we know it isn't about the bootloader ^_^
[15:26] <kunji> *graphics issue
[15:27] <kunji> Zorin have their own IRC and forums: https://zorinos.com/help/
[15:27] <Squidwin> no :´(  I should not have changed windows from the first place... shame on you Linux, cannot even avoid these simple problems... awkward problems with ubuntu.
[15:27] <kunji> Squidwin: From Zorin you mean.
[15:27] <Guest3> anybody that cen recommend a usb network adapter to mac for use in virtuelbox and stuff? is gonna be used with laptop and 10.11+
[15:27] <blackflow> but this ain't ubuntu
[15:27] <kunji> Squidwin: :P
[15:28] <Squidwin> kunji, their IRC channel is frozen and I have to wait till admins send me authorization email SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!
[15:28] <blackflow> Squidwin: also, from the grub menu, remove "quiet splash" from the kernel command line, that should give you hints of any problems during the boot
[15:28] <Squidwin> so there is no way for help
[15:28] <kunji> Squidwin: O.o  such language, lol
[15:28] <blackflow> Squidwin: I suggest you simmer down and respect the channel. This is for Ubuntu support, only.
[15:28] <ducasse> !ohmy | Squidwin
[15:28] <Squidwin> except this rich channel.
[15:28] <kunji> Squidwin: rich?
[15:28] <Squidwin> kunji, crowd.
[15:29] <Squidwin> Crowded.
[15:29] <Squidwin> Now what should I do?
[15:29] <kunji> Squidwin: You could try booting in safe graphics mode, or with other kernel parameter, e.g. acpi=off
[15:29] <kunji> Squidwin: That should be enough to google a bit with :P, if you aren't seeing GRUB in your boot process to enter such parameter, you can hold down shift while booting to get the GRUB menu.
[15:30] <ducasse> Squidwin: you should get help here - https://zorinos.com/help/
[15:30] <pynki> https://grumpymole.blogspot.hk/2007/05/ubuntu-how-to-edit-grub-boot-parameters.html
[15:31] <Squidwin> I don't know about any of these technical terms or tutorials :(
[15:32] <pynki> the zorinos channel is fully alive
[15:32] <skinux> How can I shut down APT when it keeps coming back immediately after killing it?
[15:32] <ducasse> Squidwin: you are still asking for help in the wrong place, we don't know what the zorin guys have changed
[15:33] <pynki> skinux, kill aptPIDhere && apt-wahtver youwant, is not fast enough?
[15:33] <skinux> It's not working
[15:33] <Squidwin> Okay guys look, I turned off my computer now and inserted the USB stick that contain Zorin OS (a Ubuntu-based distribution), now I turned on my desktop PC and clicked F12 and I am waited to choose a boot device, either from legacy or UEFI, which one should I choose?
[15:33] <pynki> otherwise find out what is spawning it
[15:34] <blackflow> !based on ubuntu | Squidwin
[15:34] <virtualriot> Hi everyone
[15:34] <pynki> #zorinos, even on the same network
[15:34] <ducasse> Squidwin: 'based on ubuntu' is different from 'is ubuntu'
[15:34] <kunji> Squidwin: Depends on your motherboard and what other OSs you have installed which will be better for you.....
[15:35] <Squidwin> Their channel is frozen as well as their forum.
[15:35] <skinux> Which number is the ID from ps aux?
[15:35] <pynki> ps ax, the fiorst one
[15:36] <ducasse> Squidwin: it's not, go there and wait for help. it might take a little time.
[15:36] <juanonymous> is there any alternative install, with this one?
[15:36] <juanonymous>  sudo apt-get install -y libav-tools ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:36] <juanonymous> sudo apt-get install -y libavcodec-extra-54 libavformat-extra-54
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> Squidwin: another solution would be installing ubuntu
[15:36] <juanonymous> ubuntu 16.04.1 xenial is my os
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> juanonymous: you need to update your system to .2
[15:37] <skinux> I;ve tried it 5 times now, it just comes back with another PID
[15:38] <juanonymous> lotuspsychje, how do i do that btw?
[15:38] <juanonymous> without copying .2 image and reinstalling the os
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> juanonymous: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:39] <pynki> skinux, running " kill PID && apt-get update" will not work because it spawns again before your apt-get can come throu?
[15:39] <skinux> I am only doing 'kill PID'
[15:39] <pawel_> jak zainstalowac linux 4.11 na linux mint 18.1 x64
[15:40] <pynki> and in the time you type your aopt command it spawns again. append it with && apt-bla to the kill command
[15:40] <juanonymous> lotuspsychje, will my files be intact?
[15:40] <skinux> So I have to start it again to shut it down??
[15:40] <pynki> skinux, if that works its a dirty workaround for your real problem: whats spawning apt again and again and again
[15:40] <juanonymous> and my previous installs in my system, wont be affected?
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> juanonymous: updating your system doesnt wipe your /home
[15:41] <juanonymous> ok
[15:41] <juanonymous> cool
[15:41] <juanonymous> thanks
[15:41] <pynki> skinux, i assume you want to execute an apt command from the command like, install something etc?
[15:41] <RawketLawncha> Squidwin: can you do "Ctrl-Alt-F2" and then login and then do "startx" or "gnome" or "kde" or "xfce" ?
[15:41] <skinux> It didn't work
[15:41] <geirha> skinux: ps -efH | less   what's the parent process?
[15:43] <Druid05> Hello
[15:43] <Druid05> I use "mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=000 /dev/xvdb1 /media/c" to mount ntfs drive with permissions to everyone
[15:43] <Druid05> Can help me someone to translate this to /etc/fstab config line?
[15:44] <skinux> Using that command, it doesn't even list apt
[15:44] <akik> Druid05: it's defined in /etc/fstab as # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[15:44] <geirha> skinux: /apt  to search for apt inside less
[15:44] <akik> Druid05: you can set "0 0" for "<dump> <pass>"
[15:44] <skinux> pattern not found
[15:44] <geirha> then maybe it's done now
[15:45] <skinux> Nope, it still shows in ps aux
[15:45] <Druid05> "0 0" will be equivalent with umask=000?
[15:45] <Druid05> equal*
[15:45] <akik> Druid05: no, it just tells the system that don't run fsck on it
[15:46] <geirha> cat /proc/mounts  should list the mount in a format close to what the /etc/fstab line should look like
[15:47] <geirha> skinux: odd
[15:47] <Druid05> geirha: you're awesome. Thank you!
[15:48] <RawketLawncha> !snack | Druid05
[15:51] <mxh-> Just gotta say thanks ubuntu for being the only damn distro to support all DPI monitors
[15:51] <mxh-> Goddamn spent weeks on this
[15:56] <RawketLawncha> how to you know it supports "all" of them ?
[15:56] <RawketLawncha> mxh-:
[15:57] <mxh-> RawketLawncha: Anything up to retina if that makes you happier ;) Most other just have 1x or 2x scaling.
[15:57] <mxh-> KDE has more scaling but you gotta scale all kinds of components individually which was a pain. Ubuntu was just pull a slider -> Done.:D
[15:58] <royal_screwup21> In this command: curl -ls <url> | grep HTTP/, what exactly does "grep HTTP/" do?
[15:58] <mxh-> Only shows the line containing the phrase HTTP/
[15:58] <mxh-> royal_screwup21: ^
[15:58] <royal_screwup21> thanks mxh!
[16:00] <jiffe> is there a way of finding what patches have been applied to a certain package in the ubuntu repo?
[16:01] <ducasse> jiffe: 'apt changelog package'
[16:01] <jiffe> thanks
[16:03] <mxh-> jiffe: thanks! That wasn't obvious from even a google search.
[16:07] <ransom_ubu> I would like to install a second OS on my computer (debian gnu/hurd).  Unfortunately during ubuntu install I assigned my entire disk to the primary ext4 partition /dev/sda1.   There is a small /dev/sda2 extended partition for which I don't knwo the purpose, and a /dev/sda5 linux-swp partition.  Can I resize /dev/sda1 and somehow create another partition for gnu/hurd?
[16:07] <skinux> Anyone know of a free, easy to install bench testing software
[16:07] <skinux> ?
[16:07] <ransom_ubu> Of course, /dev/sda1 can't be reized while ubuntu is running, so I don't know where to start.
[16:08] <mxh-> skinux: What do you want to benchmark?
[16:09] <skinux> my system
[16:09] <skinux> memory, graphics, hard drive performance, everything
[16:09] <mxh-> skinux: Right but compared to what. This benchmarks 3D performance but what would you compare the score to? https://benchmark.unigine.com/heaven
[16:09] <ducasse> skinux: for disk, try bonnie++
[16:10] <skinux> Well, primarily, I want to benchmark RAM
[16:10] <skinux> But, 3D performance would be good too.
[16:11] <mxh-> skinux: For more of a full system benchmark, check this out: https://github.com/lpereira/hardinfo
[16:11] <mxh-> skinux: It's in apt so just install it from terminal as usual :)
[16:12] <akik> ransom_ubu: use gparted live iso to resize your partitions
[16:13] <akik> ransom_ubu: you don't actually install anything to the extended partition, but into the logical partition under the extended partition
[16:19] <ransom_ubu> akik:  Ok, i get the live iso, I should resize /dev/sda1.  Create a new partition with the free space.  Then I can just go install the second os on the new partition?
[16:19] <akik> ransom_ubu: just make sure you check out before hand how you want to boot the second os
[16:19] <bjrohan> Is there any gui way to resize a luks partition? all the tutes on doing so with fdisk has me delete the partition to resize it? There's info on the partition I want to keep
[16:20] <akik> ransom_ubu: ubuntu uses grub which can boot other oses
[16:20] <mxh-> Yes, select the free space and the installer will partition it for you. ransom_ubu
[16:20] <bjrohan> It's a luks partition on a liveUSB with persistence
[16:21] <ransom_ubu> akik: grub will work.  It was part of the gnu/hurd before it was used in linux.
[16:32] <juanonymous> another question
[16:32] <juanonymous> E: Unable to locate package libavcodec-extra-54
[16:32] <juanonymous> E: Unable to locate package libavformat-extra-54
[16:32] <juanonymous> what is the alternative install for that package?
[16:33] <mxh-> junke1990: remove the -54 from both packages
[16:34] <mxh-> junke1990: and to figure this out i ran `apt search libav` and saw what the new packages were called
[16:35] <DexterF> hi
[16:35] <mxh-> juanonymous: oh i replied to the wrong person! read my above posts, they are for you :)
[16:35] <DexterF> got a Pixel and 16.04 LTS, looking for ways to access its storage. tried gmtp, does not connect.
[16:36] <DexterF> adb shell works, but isn't too comfy
[16:36] <mxh-> DexterF: not familiar with the pixel but can you not access the storage through a simple file browser? Or do you want the actual OS files?
[16:37] <juanonymous> thanks msx
[16:37] <juanonymous> mxh-,
[16:38] <mxh-> juanonymous: you got it! guessing you're following an old guide, ubuntu has gotten rid of version numbers for a lot of packages.
[16:38] <mxh-> juanonymous: well at least the version number is not in the package name anymore.
[16:41] <juanonymous> i see
[16:41] <juanonymous> ok mxh- , and there are many packages too when i tried that command
[16:41] <juanonymous> and i dont know what to install
[16:42] <mxh-> juanonymous: the ones you listed, just remove the -54!
[16:43] <juanonymous> so just sudo apt install libavformat-extra
[16:43] <juanonymous> will do?
[16:43] <mxh-> juanonymous: exactly, as well as the other one
[16:43] <mxh-> juanonymous: since there were to packages mentioned in the error you pasted :)
[16:43] <juanonymous> ok
[16:44] <mxh-> juanonymous: if this does not work it's because the guide is outdated and relies on the old packages, but hopefully it should work fine.
[16:45] <juanonymous> mxh-, E: Unable to locate package libavformat-extra
[16:45] <juanonymous> kristhian@kristhian-Lenovo-Flex-2-14:~$ sudo apt search libavformat-extr
[16:45] <juanonymous> Sorting... Done
[16:45] <juanonymous> Full Text Search... Done
[16:45] <mxh-> juanonymous: sorry, an assumption on my part. libavformat57 exists in zesty.
[16:46] <DexterF> mxh-, just pull out photos and send up mp3
[16:46] <mxh-> DexterF: I'm sorry? :)
[16:47] <juanonymous> actually, still doesnt work
[16:47] <juanonymous> E: Unable to locate package libformat57
[16:47] <mxh-> juanonymous: You have a typo. Copy what I wrote :)
[16:48] <juanonymous> oh
[16:48] <juanonymous> thanks
[16:48] <mxh-> DexterF: If you plug it in, can you not choose (in the android dropdown menu) to use the device as a media device and access the photos/mp3's from there?
[16:48] <dxdiag> cineva ON pe aici ?
[16:48] <juanonymous> mxh-, still none
[16:48] <juanonymous> E: Unable to locate package libavformat57
[16:48] <SuperLag> Is there a way to delay apps that require networking, until after the network is connected?
[16:48] <DexterF> mxh-, no
[16:49] <mxh-> DexterF: According to Google you can: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/2840804?hl=en
[16:49] <dxdiag> careva vorbeste romaneste pe aici ?
[16:49] <ducasse> DexterF: which mode is the phone set to communicate over usb with?
[16:50] <DexterF> mxh-, thats windows and mac instructions
[16:50] <DexterF> ducasse, MTP
[16:51] <ducasse> DexterF: are you using a gui file manager to access it?
[16:51] <mxh-> DexterF: Yes but tapping the USB notification and selecting Transfer Files should make it show up as an external drive disregardless of OS.
[16:52] <mxh-> SuperLag: yes place them in /etc/network/if-up.d/ and chmod+x the executable should work, have not tried.
[16:52] <DexterF> mxh-, 5 years ago, yes
[16:52] <DexterF> ducasse, "gmtp"
[16:52] <mxh-> DexterF: Sorry, just assumed it worked since the file is still there!
[16:52] <mxh-> DexterF: folder*
[16:53] <DexterF> oh wait wait , gmtp just got its act together
[16:53] <DexterF> I don't know why now tho
[16:54] <mxh-> DexterF: ;) Sorry for the outdated info again, it's why I put the disclaimer.
[16:55] <juanonymous> i found this libavformat-dev <- by issuing command apt search libav | grep -
[16:55] <juanonymous> but i duno if this is the right one
[16:55] <DexterF> augh
[16:55] <DexterF> now gmtp stalls
[16:55] <DexterF> ill get me an mp3 player and tell google they can gf themselves
[16:57] <sosuniverse> fg
[16:57] <mxh-> juanonymous: No just get libavformat57, it's the newest one in Ubuntu 17.04. If you have an older version you might need to lower the number. The -dev package just contains extra stuff for developers.
[16:57] <okito> hello
[16:57] <okito> im new here
[16:57] <mxh-> okito: o/
[16:57] <okito> i hope i will here :)
[16:57] <ice9> is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu server from 16.04 to 17.04? do-release-upgrade -d show no new release found
[16:57] <juanonymous> E: Unable to locate package libavformat57 - mxh-
[16:58] <juanonymous> i still got that error
[16:58] <mxh-> juanonymous: Ah, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[16:58] <juanonymous> 16.04.2
[16:58] <juanonymous> just upgraded
[16:58] <ducasse> DexterF: you might want to try a file manager that uses gvfs instead, as that might work better
[16:59] <mxh-> juanonymous: Give me a second and I'll find you the correct package for that version
[16:59] <DexterF> ducasse, can you recommend one?
[17:00] <juanonymous> mxh-, thank you
[17:00] <mxh-> juanonymous: Yep for 16.04 you actually only have the choice of libavformat-dev. Sorry for the confusion.
[17:01] <ducasse> DexterF: i don't really use any, but thunar worked for me last time i tested
[17:01] <juanonymous> mxh-, thanks
[17:01] <juanonymous> so i installed the correct one?
[17:01] <ducasse> !upgrade | ice9 see the second link here
[17:01] <DexterF> ducasse, Thunar did not show me the phone though...
[17:01] <mxh-> juanonymous: If you installed that one - yes ^^
[17:01] <DexterF> ducasse, wait it does just now
[17:02] <babahulk> Hey all,  I was wondering what people recommend for running Windows 10 as a VM.  VirtualBox or Xen
[17:02] <juanonymous> ok thanks
[17:02] <ducasse> DexterF: weird, it should. maybe it can't see it if it's plugged in while gmtp is open.
[17:02] <DexterF> ducasse, weird. I think I did sth in the meantime like adb shell auth or something
[17:02] <mxh-> juanonymous: Though I cannot tell you if they are compatible with the versions you listed first. Just have to hold your thumbs. What are you trying to install?
[17:04] <juanonymous> i am trying to grab a video from youtube, using video download helper
[17:04] <ransom_ubu> akik:  I tried the live iso.  It still would not let me resize/shrink the root partition. Is there something I have to do in ubuntu first?
[17:04] <mxh-> juanonymous: Could you not just use a plugin for your browser? :)
[17:05] <juanonymous> which i needed those dependencies in order for my audio and video to work in sync
[17:05] <juanonymous> aw
[17:05] <juanonymous> ok mxh-
[17:05] <juanonymous> btw what is the downside of using a plugin?
[17:05] <DexterF> now it stopped working again... im done
[17:05] <akik> ransom_ubu: what do you mean would not let? the other partitions don't move by themselves, you need to arrange space for the resize operation
[17:05] <DexterF> thansk all
[17:05] <ducasse> juanonymous: or youtube-dl
[17:05] <juanonymous> ducasse, will do
[17:06] <ducasse> juanonymous: that is by far the simplest way to grab a youtube video, imo
[17:06] <mxh-> Ducasse has it. In the future juanonymous when you find yourself hunting obscure libs, chances are are complete package exists that does the work for you!
[17:07] <juanonymous> btw mxh-, what are the downside of using browser plugins?
[17:08] <ransom_ubu> akik:in the resize menu, if I try and change "New size(MiB)", it wont take.  the dialog just restores to the current size.  The minimum and maximum size are the same.
[17:08] <Fabiano> anybody using weechat?
[17:09] <juanonymous> but anyway i downloaded the video now
[17:09] <mxh-> juanonymous: well, they can be hit or miss. No real downside but a native app is likely to be much faster.
[17:09] <juanonymous> thanks again
[17:09] <sim642> Fabiano, what about it?
[17:09] <juanonymous> ok mxh-, noted
[17:09] <mxh-> juanonymous: Glad it worked finally ^^
[17:09] <juanonymous> anyways im head to bed now
[17:09] <juanonymous> mxh-, thanks
[17:09] <mxh-> o/
[17:09] <ducasse> juanonymous: they make your browser use more system resources, certain plugins use quite a lot
[17:09] <juanonymous> thanks to all
[17:09] <juanonymous> ducasse, noted
[17:10] <juanonymous> ill just remove this one and use youtube-dl instead
[17:10] <juanonymous> but for now ill be heading to bed
[17:10] <Fabiano> sim642, how to scroll down the nicks list?
[17:10] <ducasse> Fabiano: f11/f12
[17:10] <sim642> Fabiano, https://weechat.org/files/doc/devel/weechat_user.en.html#key_bindings_buffers_windows
[17:11] <sim642> Fabiano, read the user guide, there's also a #weechat channel where you're more likely to get help
[17:11] <Fabiano> ducasse, sim642 thanks!
[17:11] <akik> ransom_ubu: please pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" do you have unallocated space after sda1 ?
[17:11] <Fabiano> Thanks
[17:13] <ransom_ubu> akik:http://paste.ubuntu.com/24524587/
[17:13] <ransom_ubu> akik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24524587/
[17:14] <akik> ransom_ubu: all your disk is already allocated (103.9 + 7.9)
[17:15] <ransom_ubu> yeah, i want to shrink "/dev/sda1  *         2048 217948159 217946112 103.9G 83 Linux" so i can create space for another os install.
[17:15] <akik> ransom_ubu: and shrinking sda1 doesn't work?
[17:16] <akik> ransom_ubu: sda2 is a kind of container for the logical partitions in it
[17:18] <ransom_ubu> akik:  Maybe I made a fatal error selecting options installing ubuntu the first time?
[17:19] <akik> ransom_ubu: no it looks ok but you need to shrink sda1 if you want to install something additional on the disk
[17:20] <ransom_ubu> akik: I guess I should try the gparted iso again.
[17:21] <akik> ransom_ubu: the new partition will be called sda3 even though it will be physically on the disk after sda1
[17:21] <akik> (when you get to create the new partition)
[17:22] <ransom_ubu> akik:ok thanks, I'll reboot now and try again.
[17:22]  * eelstrebor says you just can't trust backups - one needs a backup to the backup
[17:25] <ivzn> Hello. I'm using ubuntu 16.04 with the latest updates. Suddenly I can't use left_ctrl+left_shift+p to open private window in firefox anymore after today's update (firefox itself wasn't updated). Does anyone has the same issue?
[17:25] <ivzn> I guess that now this shortcat is blocked by some updated system component.
[17:27] <ivzn> I can see how combination left shift + left control + p is passing through via type settings successfully, but not left.
[17:28] <vns> Hello
[17:28] <ivzn> Sorry, mistype: I can see how combination _right_ shift + _right_ control + p is passing through via type settings successfully, but not left.
[17:30] <vns> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my DELL laptop. I face some issues when I sleep my laptop , it doesn't wake up. I had to forcefully shut it down by pressing down power button. ANy fixes?
[17:30] <ducasse> ivzn: which desktop is this?
[17:31] <ivzn> ducasse, unity, by default.
[17:33] <ducasse> ivzn: not familiar with how that handles keybindings, sorry. you might want to try installing a standalone wm, like openbox, and see if firefox behaves the same there to narrow down the source.
[17:40] <ransom_ubu> akik: Thanks, i was able to shrink.  I must have made a user-error last time i tried gparted iso.  /dev/sda3 as type "linux".  I was not able to create type extended, so probably I am not meant to.
[17:40] <mclaren> hey
[17:40] <mclaren> how's arch linux compared to ubuntu
[17:41] <ducasse> mclaren: ask in ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:41] <mclaren> ah ok
[17:41] <mxh-> ducasse: is it not allowed to compare the two here? just wondering
[17:42] <Sparrow__> The short answer.. No
[17:42] <ducasse> mxh-: this channel is for support issues, and that's not really a support question. a question like that also tends to start off endless discussions.
[17:42] <mxh-> Sparrow__ ducasse gotcha! Good to know.
[17:43] <mclaren> hi Sparrow__
[17:43] <Sparrow__> mclaren knows better.. but what do ya expect from a 15 yr old
[17:43] <Sparrow__> Hey
[17:46] <root> aly
[17:48] <mclaren> Sparrow__:
[17:48] <mclaren> i really am going to pipe to dev null
[17:48] <Sparrow__> :)
[17:49] <onomatopiea> how large of an install is ubuntu + kodi?
[17:49] <Ricardo_> hi
[17:50] <Ricardo_> is this the right place to ask stuff about ubuntu, even though it's a ubuntu-server related problem rather than a desktop problem?
[17:50] <onomatopiea> sure
[17:50] <Ricardo_> great
[17:50] <ouroumov_> onomatopiea, why don't you test it for yourself?
[17:50] <Ricardo_> there is this awesome piece of helpdesk software.  It's open source and really, really great.
[17:50] <onomatopiea> ouroumov_: Because it will take a long time?
[17:51] <Ricardo_> I installed it using the provided ubuntu package and the installation was straight forward and easy
[17:51] <ouroumov_> onomatopiea, time to invest in an SSD.
[17:51] <onomatopiea> ouroumov_: what is wrong with you?
[17:51] <Ricardo_> however, now I tried to use the live chat of this help desk software
[17:51] <Ricardo_> and I get the error:
[17:51] <onomatopiea> You're needlessly awkward about a simple question.
[17:52] <Sparrow__> Ricardo_, server isnt the isue for support, using outside software is.
[17:52] <Ricardo_> WebSocket connection to 'ws://...<ip>.../ws' failed: Error during WebSocket handshake: Unexpected response code: 404
[17:52] <Ricardo_> "...<ip>..."  was replaced (there was my ip)
[17:52] <ducasse> onomatopiea: an install does not take long time
[17:52] <Sparrow__> See them for support
[17:52] <Ricardo_> I googled a little, and it seems as if there would be some apache modules for websockets
[17:52] <onomatopiea> ducasse: Formatting the machine does.
[17:52] <Ricardo_> but this is not running on apache
[17:53] <Ricardo_> is there any known way for ubuntu to get a websocket service running?
[17:53] <ransom_ubu> How can i tell if my CD or DVD drive is writeable or just a read-only device?
[17:53] <tgm4883> onomatopiea: you can install kodi on ubuntu, there's no need to dual boot
[17:54] <onomatopiea> tgm4883: I was considering dual booting for having windows for gaming. Hook up a controller. But it's only got a 64gb ssd
[17:54] <ducasse> Ricardo_: the problem is with that software, you need to get support from whoever supplied it
[17:54] <tgm4883> onomatopiea: you should probably lead with all the information then
[17:55] <onomatopiea> tgm4883: It's also a surface pro :x
[17:55] <Ricardo_> ducasse, yep, that's what I expected ;(
[17:55] <tgm4883> onomatopiea: honestly, you're going to be pretty tight dual booting for gaming with windows on a 64GB ssd
[17:56] <onomatopiea> tgm4883: So I'm realising. Perhaps this is not realistic. Which is a shame.. my xbox is just not good enough for my RPG based tastes
[17:57] <ducasse> Ricardo_: as it is not in the repos we know nothing about it, especially since you haven't even given us the name. look for support forums or irc channels on their website.
[17:57] <tgm4883> onomatopiea: not sure what gaming you want to do, but I'd think that even single booting windows on that for gaming is going to be tight
[17:57] <onomatopiea> tgm4883: heh,  but for one game at a time?
[17:57] <Ricardo_> ducasse, the name is "zammad".
[17:57] <tgm4883> onomatopiea: depends on the game. I've got games that take 50GB themselves
[17:57] <Ricardo_> ducasse, it's open source and it's not in the official repos
[17:58] <Ricardo_> ducasse, https://zammad.org/
[17:58] <Ricardo_> there are only 3 people in their support chat and nobody talks
[17:58] <onomatopiea> tgm4883: Sigh you're probably right. I was thinking they were nearer <10gb
[17:58] <Sparrow__> Ricardo_, inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[17:58] <ducasse> Ricardo_: ok, then wait for help
[17:58] <tgm4883> onomatopiea: again, depends on the game
[17:58] <Ricardo_> Sparrow__, sorry, what?
[17:59] <Ricardo_> ok ducasse
[17:59] <onomatopiea> tgm4883: Oh sure. But it's a toss up between selling the tablet and doing this.. I'm learning on selling now
[17:59] <Sparrow__> that shows us your hardware so we can look for other issues.
[18:03] <golum> Hey guys if someone could help me please, my wifi shows all available connections, but once I put in all necessary details (such as username, password, security details) and try to connect, I get a KDE Daemon pop-up saying "for accessing the wireless network <network name> you need to provide a password" even if i enter my network password or laptop password here, the pop-up still reappears asking for the password again. Following th
[18:03] <golum> Following this, two little pop-ups come up saying "Connection <network name> deactivated" and "wireless interface (wlp2s0) No secrets were provided".   I am using a Dell XPS 13 laptop with Intel Broadwell Core i5-5200U CPU, 4GB RAM, 256GB SSD.  I am using a Broadcom Corporation BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter. I am on Kubuntu 16.04
[18:03] <MrSassyPants> I'm looking for an autoclicker solution, xautoclick doesn't seem to be supported anymore
[18:05] <SimonNL> golum: what you need there is the ssid's password
[18:06] <SimonNL> golum: and that's neither your network or laptop password.
[18:07] <MrSassyPants> why does do-release-upgrade say xserver-xorg-input-evdev is no longer supported?
[18:07] <golum> @SimonNL I've entered my SSID's password, still get the pop-up every 20 seconds
[18:07] <egonsen> hi! ubuntu 17.04 came with the firefox flash plugin (and probably also the one for chrome) pre-installed. how can i cleanly remove all flash plugins from ubuntu?
[18:07] <ducasse> MrSassyPants: because x.org now uses libinput instead
[18:07] <SimonNL> golum: then you are typing the wrong password
[18:08] <golum> Wait then whats the SSID password?
[18:08] <SimonNL> golum: capslock maybe ?
[18:08] <MrSassyPants> ducasse, I vaguely remember changing from various device drivers to evdev not too long ago
[18:08] <SimonNL> golum: that's the password set in the router
[18:08] <golum> @SimonNL is there a difference between SSID password and Wifi password?
[18:08] <Sparrow__> yes
[18:08] <MrSassyPants> ducasse, is libinput good?
[18:09] <SimonNL> golum: could be the same.
[18:09] <ducasse> MrSassyPants: works for me™
[18:09] <SimonNL> golum: ssid is the wifi network you connect too
[18:09] <MrSassyPants> evdev always worked like a charm for me, solving problems with moderately obscure HIDs I got attached
[18:10] <golum> Yup, I m positive that I've entered the right SSID password (wifi password)
[18:11] <MrSassyPants> but SSID isn't a password, it's the name
[18:11] <SimonNL> golum: if you type the correct password you will be granted access
[18:12] <SimonNL> golum: is the router your router? if so you can check the password in there.
[18:13] <kde14024> hi everyone. suddenly my system has no working audio. can anyone help me troubleshoot? i'm using kde
[18:16] <akik> kde14024: try install pavucontrol
[18:16] <ducasse> golum: are there separate ssids for 2.4 and 5ghz?
[18:17] <kde14024> akik: i installed it
[18:18] <akik> kde14024: can you see your active audio sources in it?
[18:19] <kde14024> akik: yes, and when i play a audio file, i see activity in pavucontrol
[18:19] <kde14024> but i don't hear anything
[18:20] <akik> kde14024: try clicking the buttons to select the audio output you want to use
[18:22] <mclaren> hello
[18:22] <mclaren> im not quite sure that i speak english
[18:24] <ducasse> SimonNL: what do you mean by 'network password' if not ssid password?
[18:28] <async> hey! ianyone who is involved in open source projects willing to answer three questions? :-P It’s for a college assignment
[18:29] <ducasse> async: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:29] <SimonNL> ducasse: what i think I said and meant was the network password is not the ssid password
[18:30] <async> oh, thanks!
[18:31] <SimonNL> ducasse: if he/she said wifi network he/she would be correct
[18:39] <anonymous> hi
[18:39] <Guest59347> Wathsapp hackers
[18:39] <Guest59347> DJ
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[18:43] <onomatopiea> tgm4883: I lied. It's a 128gb surface pro, not 64GB :D
[18:45] <raviolillo> Hello!! there is someone here with experience with Free Software? :)
[18:46] <Silvering> Hi everyone! I'm looking for the best way to create a ubuntu remix which only support ethernet and USB. Possible ? thanks!
[18:49] <Lavinho> good afternoon
[18:50] <Lavinho> no sound speaker bluetooth
[18:50] <Lavinho> what is ?
[18:51] <Lavinho> failed connection
[18:59] <kde3963> hi, can anyone help me pick a newer kernel version in ubuntu. i am trying to troubleshoot a no audio issue. to i just install linux-image-4.X or are there other packages i need to install too?
[19:00] <Ben64> !mainline | kde3963
[19:00] <Silvering> Hi everyone! I'm looking for the best way to create a ubuntu remix which only support ethernet and USB. Possible ? thanks!
[19:01] <Lavinho> how to configure speaker bluetooth ubuntu
[19:02] <Lavinho> ?
[19:02] <Silvering> Lavinho : https://itsfoss.com/bluetooth-speakers-ubuntu/
[19:04] <Lavinho> thank you i using lubuntu
[19:14] <ducasse> Lavinho: you probably need to start by installing pulseaudio
[19:20] <MrSassyPants> ok I just upgraded to 17.04, evdev was apparently replaced by libinput, BUT I now have mouse acceleration which is absolutely unacceptable, even though "xset m 1 1" and the mouse controls agree that no mouse acceleration is active
[19:22] <latino31> i have 17.04 and I have an issue with sound settings in the gui being peristant...i think ive noticed it before on previous versions but im really noticing it today...
[19:27] <MrSassyPants> I wish to learn of who is responsible for libinput so I can shout at them
[19:29] <MrSassyPants> Also, what is the "official" way to restart X without rebooting
[19:32] <ducasse> MrSassyPants: restart the display manager
[19:32] <MrSassyPants> like, lightDM or whatever is being used these days?
[19:36] <MrSassyPants> ok, now where are those libinput jerks
[19:46] <jophish__> HI all
[19:46] <jophish__> I have a server running precise which was struck by lightning and the ethernet port is dead
[19:47] <jophish__> I have a usb ethernet adapter which I'm trying to get working
[19:47] <jophish__> however I don't think that the server has the right drivers for it
[19:47] <jophish__> I've hooked up a monitor and keyboard, lsusb tells me that this is a 'realtek' device. usb id: 0bda:8153
[19:48] <jophish__> Assuming that I can transfer files via usb stick to this machine, how can I get this ethernet adapter working?
[19:49] <jophish__> The kernel versio  is 2.6.32.74-server
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[19:56] <Silvering> Hi everyone! I'm looking for the best way to create a ubuntu remix which only support ethernet and USB. Possible ? thanks!
[19:56] <Seveas> jophish__: that box is ready to be binned if it was hit by lightning. If you don't have backups of all your data, just stick the drives in a sata to usb adapter and recover using another computer.
[19:57] <jamis> Annnd that noise is why I'll stop idling here.
[19:57] <Seveas> Silvering: it's kinda useless if it doesn't support a cpu and memory :)
[19:58] <ducasse> jophish__: you also need to upgrade, 12.04 is eol and thus unsupported here now
[19:58] <Silvering> Seveas : Yes sorry I mean of course with the minimal
[19:59] <Seveas> Silvering: that doesn't make the end goal any clearer I'm afraid. What are you actually trying to acieve?
[20:00] <jhusen-gnom1502> join #UBUNTU INDONESIA
[20:00] <jhusen-gnom1502> join #ubuntuindonesia
[20:00] <Silvering> Seveas : I would need a ubuntu distro (server) with the minimal to run. this distro must have ethernet and usb support and not more
[20:00] <Seveas> jhusen-gnom1502: try with a / in front of the join...
[20:01] <ducasse> !id | jhusen-gnom1502
[20:02] <jophish__> Seveas: yeah, I'm pretty sure I've got backups of nearly everything. I'd like to make sure though
[20:03] <jophish__> ducasse: I still need to connect the box to the internet to upgrade
[20:08] <ducasse> jophish__: that seems to be an rtl8153, but i don't know which kernel version you need for that. does it give you a network interface if you check with 'ip a'?
[20:08] <jophish__> ducasse: sadly not
[20:08] <jophish__> I've got the source for the driver
[20:09] <Seveas> jophish__: no, you don't need to connect that box to the internet, you need to bin it.
[20:09] <jophish__> I can compile it on this laptop, however I'm missing the kernel headers on the server
[20:09] <Seveas> Who knows what else is damaged. It's nothing more than a timebomb for your data
[20:09] <jophish__> Seveas: It's only used for serving music, if it dies it's not the end of the world
[20:09] <jophish__> It's a lot easier logistically for me to fix this now and replace it later
[20:10] <jophish__> house move and things coming up in the near future
[20:10] <jophish__> I promise not to store precious un-backed-up files :P
[20:10] <jophish__> So, I need to download the 2.6.32-74-server linux headers
[20:11] <jophish__> Perhaps this is what I want: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/amd64/linux-headers-2.6.32-74-server/2.6.32-74.142
[20:24] <jhusen-gnom1502> exploit
[20:25] <Betlehem> ohh
[20:25] <jophish__> hmm, usb_disable_lpm is not defined in this kernel version
[20:29] <jhusen-gnom1502> eliot has join @fsociety
[20:34] <ddoobb> How do I pass an argument in terminal if oone of the arguments needs it? I'm trying to run gnome-screenshot with the options -c, -w, -f and only -f needs a file name. So -cw work and '-f <filename>'alone works but -cwf doesn't and neither does '-c -w -f <filename>'
[20:36] <ttreadway> hey
[20:36] <tgm4883> ddoobb: have you tried "-c -w -f<filename>"
[20:36] <ttreadway> wyd
[20:36] <ttreadway> photography
[20:39] <genii> ddoobb: Try --file=filename instead
[20:40] <ddoobb> Got it to work. Turns out I can't use -c and 0f for this program together. Thanks for the help.
[20:43] <ddoobb> One more thing
[20:45] <ddoobb> The gnome-screenshot allows saving the screenshot but is overwrites existing ones. Is there a way I can pipe the output to something that doesn't? Ideally index new ones as 0001, etc.
[20:47] <ducasse> ddoobb: you could use something like scrot or maim instead
[20:51] <ddoobb> ducasse no way to do it without installing another screenshot program?
[20:52] <ducasse> ddoobb: i'm not familiar with gnome-screenshot, but it's an easy fix
[21:06] <SimonNL> ddoobb: that's weird my gnome-screenshot uses date and time to create a uniek file name.
[21:07] <SimonNL> as example ddoobb http://imgur.com/a/M6Bqk
[21:18] <ddoobb> SimonNL which command do you use? I'm trying to assign it to a shortcut ke, so can't use the interface.
[21:20] <SimonNL> ddoobb: from the menu clicking the launcher or hotkey print screen
[21:21] <SimonNL> ddoobb:   I copied the launcher from the menu to the panel.
[21:22] <ddoobb> SimonNL: I'm trying to set it up such that one key takes the screeshot and saves to a folder as well.
[21:22] <ddoobb> without the UI popping up.
[21:23] <SimonNL> ddoobb: my print screen key is set up to do so. not sure maybe that's a linux mint thing.
[21:24] <ddoobb> Is that the default behaviour in mint?
[21:24] <SimonNL> yes
[21:24] <SimonNL> on all DE's if I'm not mistaking.
[21:25] <zealsham_> uhm i recntly installed ubuntu server , what then is my i.p adress and can it be acessed from the internet?
[21:25] <SimonNL> ddoobb: does you print screen key do nothing?
[21:26] <Bruda> zealsham_: try typing: ip addr
[21:27] <Bruda> zealsham_: that will show you your network interface information including ip. As for accessing from the internet that depends on your network setup. Got a router? Are any ports forwarded to the local ip that your server installation is on?
[21:27] <Bruda> Or are you directly connected ot the modem?
[21:27] <SimonNL> https://www.whatismyip.com/  <=  for you www IP adres
[21:28] <ddoobb> SimonNL: It brings up the gnome-screenshot interface with options to save to clipboard or file.
[21:28] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: For the command line, try: dig +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com
[21:28] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: It'll show your Internet-wide IP address if there is one.
[21:28] <zealsham_> Bruda: am using a router
[21:29] <ddoobb> Could I do some bash thing to pass the timestamp as file name? Not very good with bash.
[21:29] <Bruda> zealsham_: ok. Well, depending on what services you want to access from the internet you'll need to forward the respective ports to the local ip of your server. Of course install/enable/start the services you plan to use.
[21:30] <zealsham_> ChaiTRex: it showed 129.56.55
[21:31] <ChaiTRex> zealsham_: That's missing a part, but that's your external IP address.
[21:31] <tgm4883> zealsham_: well it showed more than that, which is your public IP
[21:31] <tgm4883> zealsham_: what are you trying to do?
[21:31] <zealsham_> how do i forward port. am trying to set up a private git server on it
[21:32] <zealsham_> using something like gitlab
[21:32] <tgm4883> zealsham_: well that's something you'd need to configure in your router
[21:32] <Bruda> zealsham_: yea, you'll have to login to the router to forward ports.
[21:33] <SimonNL> ddoobb: file name given in it?
[21:34] <ddoobb> SimonNL given in what?
[21:35] <SimonNL> the gnome-screenshot interface with options to save to clipboard or file.    <=  in this
[21:42] <ddoobb> Passing "screenshot-`date +%s`" works as a timestamp. Problem solved!
[21:43] <zealsham_> how do i ssh into my ubuntu sever right here on another machine
[21:43] <Bruda> ssh name@localip
[21:44] <Bruda> if you use the same name on both machines you can omit that part and just do: ssh localip
[21:45] <Bruda> obviously replace 'localip' with the actual local network IP of the server machine.
[21:46] <zealsham_> how do i get the localip, it seems not working with the ip i entered
[21:46] <Bruda> on the server run: ip addr
[21:47] <Bruda> you should see inet followed by the local ip.
[21:48] <Bruda> ignore the loopback stuff. If it's the right ip but still not working make sure you have ssh installed and the service enabled & started.
[21:48] <zealsham_> am seeing inet appear twice, one with 127.0.0.1
[21:49] <Bruda> that's the loopback. Not the right one.
[21:49] <zealsham_> and the other with 10.0.2.15/24 brd 10.0.2.255
[21:49] <Bruda> loopback is for connecting to the same machine you are sitting on. Has it's uses even though it sounds redundant.
[21:49] <Bruda> Yea that should be it then. 10.0.2.15
[21:51] <zealsham_> my hostname is the name i entred when installing the server right
[21:51] <mrcuber> hey
[21:52] <zealsham_> signed up for python/nodejs . now doing a sys admin
[21:52] <Bruda> zealsham_: yea. But it might not do anything unless the machines you are connecting from have the hostname and ip setup in the /etc/hosts file.
[21:52] <mrcuber> but why are u telling me this <zealsham_>
[21:53] <Bruda> mrcuber: I don't think he's talking to you.
[22:04] <ddoobb> Hey I'm using  `date +%s`  in bash as a timestamp to avoid overwriting files, but it is in seconds so I can't use it to save two files in a second. Any way to get it in ms?
[22:05] <Bruda> maybe try `date +%s%N`
[22:05] <Bruda> just randomly throwing that out. %N is nanoseconds.
[22:09] <Doc3000> Hi
[22:10] <ddoobb> Bruda: Thanks, that works!!
[22:11] <Bruda> Excellent.
[22:11] <tomreyn> ddoobb: the correct way to do it is by using a uuid
[22:11] <ddoobb> tomreyn whats that
[22:12] <tomreyn> this combines both time and another factor to create a unique id
[22:12] <tomreyn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier
[22:13] <Bruda> tomreyn: he's saving screenshots. Not sure a UUID exists until after the file is created.
[22:15] <tomreyn> Bruda: it exists when he calculates it.it does not depend on the existence of that file.
[22:15] <tomreyn> uuidgen -t
[22:16] <Bruda> tomreyn: ah ok. He probably doesn't know how to calculate it, so feel free.... there you go.
[22:17] <tomreyn> or since it's all on the same system, you might actually want uuidgen -r
[22:49] <Kyoku> is there a way to install proprietary Nvidia drivers when secure boot is enabled?
[22:53] <Bruda> Kyoku: I don't have secure boot. But I think Nvidia drivers should be able to be installed like most other packages or kernels. It doesn't really depend on the boot as much as it depends on the kernel loading the modules. But if I'm wrong I'm sure someone here can correct me.
[22:55] <Kyoku> i just tried installing them and it stopped my system from booting, had to fall back to older kernel
[22:57] <Bruda> Kyoku: Hmm. I have BIOS systems so I don't really have trouble with that. Maybe there's an answer on google.
[22:58] <fight15> hola
[23:00] <fight15> hi
[23:01] <zerothis> so I read how cwiid/wminput has been replaced by xwiimote. So I installed it and... I can connect HID/bluetooth directly, then, nothing... how do I use my wiimote as a mouse, keyboard, and/or joystick device?
[23:02] <TheMontyChrist> how robus is ubuntu when installed on a thumb drive?
[23:03] <TheMontyChrist> if it can't find hardware - because I plugged it into another machine - will it fall back to "generic" drivers?
[23:05] <tripps> hi all
[23:05] <tripps> posing a question to the whole chat: in loading ubuntu from USB stick, why can I only see 1 of 2 partitions on a single HDD?
[23:05] <Sparrow__> Installed on the thumb drive or running live
[23:05] <tripps> running live
[23:07] <Sparrow__> it should try to boot up there.  It should not remember the last hardware it was used on while live..  (Not Persistant Install)
[23:08] <tripps> well, i'm trying to locate files in the windows boot drive that is C:, but it is only showing me another partition, D:
[23:08] <tripps> windows is not booting, so i'm going to replace it with ubuntu, but need files from a partition that i cannot see
[23:09] <Sparrow__> Was it a windows partition ? encrypted partition ?
[23:09] <tripps> windows partition, maybe encrypted?
[23:09] <tripps> i think it shows up as sda, sda1
[23:09] <ChaiTRex> tripps: Does the partition show up in the Gnome Disks application?
[23:10] <tripps> no
[23:10] <tripps> but another partition of the same drive does
[23:10] <ChaiTRex> tripps: It shows up as taking the whole drive?
[23:10] <tripps> looks like it
[23:11] <Nova_deViator> "sudo lsblk -f" shows what 'block' devices the system can see... -> disks/partitions...
[23:11] <Bruda> grub can unhide partitions...
[23:12] <tripps> Bruda> what is grub?
[23:12] <Bruda> the bootloader that you see on most Linux systems & live CD's.
[23:13] <YankDownUnder> (We eat grubs here...fried...or sauteed...) :)
[23:13] <tripps> k, im quite the noob, and super confused....
[23:14] <Sparrow__> Did you look at the drive with gksudo gparted
[23:14] <tripps> no, what's that?
[23:14] <Sparrow__> partition tool
[23:14] <Sparrow__> are you running live now
[23:14] <tripps> oh, i think that would help
[23:14] <tripps> yes
[23:15] <Sparrow__> open the dos box thingy called a terminal
[23:15] <tripps> ive got it open
[23:15] <Sparrow__> try sudo parted
[23:15] <xrandr> phunyguy: !!!!
[23:15] <Sparrow__> Im trying to remember what the live has
[23:16] <YankDownUnder> Sometimes when a Windows 10 partition(s) cannot be read properly, it's because the "hybrid hibernation" in Windows 10 - known as "fast boot" and "fast shutdown" are enabled - and need to be disabled within Windows 10 so that the file system driver (ntfs-3g) can properly read the NTFS partition...just so's y'all know...
[23:17] <Sparrow__> Thanks YankDownUnder
[23:17] <tripps> thanks alot... my problem is that windows won't boot at all
[23:17] <tripps> hehe
[23:17] <Sparrow__> was it ever dual boot?
[23:18] <tripps> is it possible for one partition to crash and the other to survive?
[23:18] <tripps> nope
[23:18] <Sparrow__> tripps, yes
[23:18] <tripps> it was just win10 machine
[23:18] <YankDownUnder> In "gparted" (or whichever) - you might need to double-check the "boot" flag for that partition...(there is a small partition for Windows that initiates the boot process - probably the smallest visible partition)...worth checking out...
[23:18] <tripps> uh oh...
[23:19] <tripps> what would the 'flag' be?
[23:19] <tripps> sda, sda1?
[23:19] <Sparrow__> prob sda1
[23:20] <tripps> k, cause sda and sda1 are listed somewhere else, but only sdb and sdb1 show up as the 2nd partition
[23:20] <Nova_deViator> sda and sdb are usually different pieces of hardware
[23:20] <tripps> oh....
[23:20] <Sparrow__> but I dont do windos any more, someone here will know more.  But your problem is not really ubuntu support ..  more like data recovery or windows
[23:21] <YankDownUnder> Look at the "attributes" for the partition in question...(right click)...see if the "boot" is ticked or not...(check all partitions, really...good to double-check and KNOW these things)
[23:21] <Nova_deViator> so different partitions on the same drive should be sda1 sda2 sda3
[23:21] <Sparrow__> correct
[23:21] <tripps> thanks Sparrow__>
[23:21] <Sparrow__> np
[23:21] <YankDownUnder> A "drive" would be /dev/sda (or whatever)...a PARTITION would be /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 and etc...
[23:22] <tripps> ok, this is all very helpful, thanks guys...
[23:23] <zkf> waht?
[23:23] <zteam> TestDisk is also very useful for dealing with broken partitions, althought it might requre a little bit of reading, to understand
[23:24] <tripps> i think its different hardware... my bad!
[23:24] <tripps> looks like i have a SSD as well...
[23:24] <YankDownUnder> "Testdisk" is awesome - and yes - READ ON IT before playing with it...
[23:24] <Sparrow__> tripps, your usb will show up as a drive too
[23:24] <tripps> hmm, right
[23:25] <Sparrow__> Easy to spot those by size
[23:26] <tripps> i never noticed it... just saw that the connections were the same as the HDD
[23:26] <zteam> YankDownUnder, yep, that tool did save  about 50 GB of data for me in about a few seconds, for about 10 years ago :-)
[23:26] <zteam> YankDownUnder, if that ain't awesome, I don't know really is
[23:26] <zteam> :-)
[23:26] <Sparrow__> Anyone remember Hiren's
[23:27] <YankDownUnder> zteam, Awesome too, that...but I do like to stress that it needs to be "carefully read through" - it can do amazing amounts of irretrievable damage...
[23:27] <zteam> Sparrow__, yep, not sure how legal that thing is thought
[23:27] <YankDownUnder> Hiren's Boot CD v. 9.9 is the best...
[23:27] <Sparrow__> Still around ?
[23:28] <_28Kb> why 9.9?
[23:28] <YankDownUnder> Sparrow__, Yes...easy enough to find it - if one digs for it...it's 170mb...not like it's "huge" or what...
[23:28] <Sparrow__> got it
[23:29] <zteam> YankDownUnder, yes, it can, but it also warns the user about what operations is dangerous, but I do agree there is reason I told him to ready the manual before using it :-)
[23:29] <YankDownUnder> 9.9 contains utilities that are "old school" and very powerful...stuff that "the pro's" don't necessarily wish for the public to have...(why make tools freely available when a market can be created specifically around the public NOT having those tools?) :)
[23:30] <Nova_deViator> testdisk is great for recovering deleted data
[23:30] <_28Kb> tnx.. i'll roll back just for checking
[23:30] <YankDownUnder> Best tool for data recovery: DON'T SCREW THINGS UP! ;)
[23:30] <Sparrow__> One Very Dangerous Utility I agree a gray area on legal
[23:31] <_28Kb> i miss norton stuff
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[23:33] <LjL> !ops
[23:33] <zteam> YankDownUnder, you can screw up your system using the terminal in Linux, too, if something is powerful enough to accomplish lots of good work then it usually can screw up things too, if you using it wrong
[23:34] <genii> @comment 76330 Ad spam
[23:35] <zteam> _28Kb,I really don't installing Norton is (was?) like letting a paint bucket exploading in your registry
[23:36] <zteam> _28Kb, and their antivirus solution was very very easy to trick
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[23:38] <zteam> Sparrow, while I know manu of the utilitues on Hirens is freeware, the Windows system files, it 's using to build the windows envirment is clearly not
[23:39] <genii> Hm
[23:39] <Sparrow__> zteam, Understood, I dont do windows any more so for me not an issue
[23:42] <zteam> Sparrow__, not me either, well I do have a Windows laptop as well, but I don't use it that much, but there is somethings which kind of requre having a Windows install (such as building a Windows bootdisc for helping friends out)